Leadville 4WD Adventure, CO: (6/23-26/06) [Archive]

Scott Brady

03-27-2006, 03:08 AM

Challenging trails and the third highest highpointer in the states.

Details:

Thursday Night: BBQ in Evergreen. Details from Scott J. to follow.
Friday Afternoon: We may have two meeting times. An early crew, and an afternoon crew. Camp location, coordinates, etc. coming soon.
Saturday: Keystone and Webster Pass snow permitting. Radical Possible too. This will be better determined early next week. Nathan from Pangaea will work out the details and report soon. Camp at Lily Pond (http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.1182&lon=-106.4101&size=l&symshow=n&datum=nad83)
Sunday: Early departure to climb the bugger, Sunday night will depend on our progress.

Climbers:
1. Scott
2. Chuck
3. Chris

Trail Run: 6 Vehicle Max
1. Scott: Tacoma
2. Nathan: Land Rover Discovery
3. Graham: B*tchin 110
4. Durango_60/pskhaat
5. Brian (pending trail details)
6. Chris: BajaTaco

Tentative:
1.

This adventure will be featured in PRIMEDIA's Off-Road.

bh4rnnr

03-27-2006, 03:21 AM

Sounds like a fun time, but think i'll have to much other stuff going on then.....

goodtimes

03-27-2006, 03:22 AM

bigreen505

03-27-2006, 04:40 AM

Scott, I'd love to join in if the trail is something that can be run in a basically stock Pathfinder (or a basically stock Trooper if I have my $$$ together by then).

Ursidae69

03-27-2006, 02:06 PM

Hey Scott,

I might come up for the Elbert Hike, I've been meaning to hike that mountain. I don't know where Lilly lake Camp is. Is that near Twin Lakes? If I go, I'd likely drive up on Saturday and meet you guys at camp and hike with you the next morning. Five thousand in elevation gain is pretty hard, but the trail is listed as easy since it is a gradual climb on a good trail.

goodtimes

03-27-2006, 05:31 PM

Hey Chuck, what do you have going on after the hike? Back to work, or another day or two off to go fishing......

durango_60

03-27-2006, 06:44 PM

I would love to attend this event and the timing looks great, just a few days before my birthday. I would like to attend in a Landcruiser of some variety, either my 80, my 60, or could end up in a new FJ Cruiser. :D

Ursidae69

03-27-2006, 10:14 PM

Hey Chuck, what do you have going on after the hike? Back to work, or another day or two off to go fishing......

Probably back to work. The Brazil trip is wiping out most of my vacation time. I might be able to take Monday, we'll talk closer to the date.

goodtimes

03-28-2006, 05:38 AM

Ah yes, the Brazil thing. I forgot about that.

Hey Scott, I talked to the boss today...go ahead and put me on the list. I need some trail info though.....because I don't have plans for sliders this summer. If I'm going to need them, I need to know far enough in advance so I can build them (and it isn't going to be a easy job like the tacoma's....the frame dimensions and weight of the vehicle will make it a challenge).

Scenic WonderRunner

03-28-2006, 06:46 AM

This past summer, I had a fun stop over in Leadville on my way back from Minn.

I headed up toward Westin Pass to find a secluded campsite. I got stopped along the trail due to beavers that had damned the stream and flooded the trail.....(I was in the Buick due to 4Runner engine probs)

I found one pic from my campsite area. I could look west and see Mount Elbert! It hailed on me right after I got my tent up!......Late August!

What a beautiful area!.....I just stumbled upon it.....I had never been there. Headed back to Leadville the next morning to the Golden Burro......or something like that. ......walked the town and took pics. Had a slimey egg thingy.....and just loved the old town atmosphere!

.....and told myself......I have to come back here one day!

That view from the stream is actually facing Mt. Elbert. .......but you can't see it in the mist.

BajaTaco

03-28-2006, 02:22 PM

If there is still an open slot, I'd like to go.

pskhaat

03-29-2006, 03:13 AM

Hmmm, old stomping grounds. Sign me up, both Durango60 and I. I need to pass this through the CEO/CFO (wife) but the COO (Chief Offroad Officer, me) likes...

Scott Brady

03-29-2006, 12:30 PM

How difficult are the trails going to be Scott? That is the right time frame for me to be in Denver, but I am not bringing the jeep, I'll be in the dodge, with no armour.

If the trails are friendly enough, pencil me in, and I'll talk to the boss about scheduling my summer vacation tomorrow. It would be cool to meet up and give me a great reason to get out and visit some of the places I haven't been in way too long.

Hey Brian,

I dont think the trail will be Dodge friendly (in its current configuration), as it is a high mountain rocky trail with trees and boulders. More technical than most I run.

Scott Brady

03-29-2006, 12:31 PM

Scott, I'd love to join in if the trail is something that can be run in a basically stock Pathfinder (or a basically stock Trooper if I have my $$$ together by then).

The trail will not be stock 4wd friendly, though I will try to get more info from Nathan today.

goodtimes

03-29-2006, 02:13 PM

OK, let me know. I still have a little time to get some work done on either the Dodge, or the jeep, should I decide to take it instead of the Dodge. Really, the only reason I am planning on taking the Dodge is that it is more comfortable than the jeep on the freeway....At this point, the Jeep is just as cheap to drive due to the price difference between gas and diesel, so there really is no other reason to take the Dodge....

Is there an alternate route back to where you will be camping?

goodtimes

04-10-2006, 04:48 AM

Scott, I have inked in the vacation, and have decided to use the Dodge for what I originally intended it for.....to transport me around the freeways on vacation while dragging the jeep behind me. I get the comfort of the long wheelbase on the road, the agility of the jeep off road. This will also solve my cargo space problem, so should be good to go. I will probably be in Colorado 4 or 5 days before the trip, so give me a hollar if you need anything....

DaveInDenver

05-01-2006, 10:36 PM

I hiked Mt. Elbert not long before moving here (just over 10 years ago now). It's the highest point in our state and you gotta do it, although it's not a particularly technical climb. There are a couple of talus fields above treeline, but otherwise I'd put it squarely in the pretty easy category. Most people rate it a class #1 14er (all on trail and no scrambling, although in June you may still may need crampons and an axe crossing the northern side near Box Creek). That said, it's worth the climb just for the elevation gain and views for sure. If you want an extra tag-a-long, I'd like to hike it again. The standard route is along the NE ridge, which is the greater elevation gain (about 4500') and 8.5 miles. The southern route has less elevation gain (about 4000'), but is slightly steeper overall since it's about a mile shorter. I'd expect a Front Ranger to take 8 hours, give or take. Don't forget that you want to be coming down from the summit by very early afternoon (my general target is to be back below treeline by 2PM), spending time above treeline in the summer here is risky.

What trail(s) are you planning to drive the first day? If it's not stock friendly and close to the Lily Pad Lakes west of Leadville must be Holy Cross or something? That's not even friendly to heavily modified vehicles (think double lockers, lots of armor and still be prepared for damage). The day you go up the Fryingpan drainage to Lily Pad Lake you'll be going up (probably) towards Hagerman Pass. This is hard enough to be fun, but a stock Dodge should be able to make it. It's an old railroad grade, so it's not bad. I'm assuming you're planning to drive down to the Mt Elbert trailhead from this camp, it's about a 20 mile hike down the CT from here. I've ridden part of the trail from Copper ski area over Tennessee Pass to Turquoise Lake (I got a thumb shuttle back!).

pskhaat

05-08-2006, 10:50 PM

Is it 2 lockers req'd or open or in-between?

Ursidae69

05-23-2006, 06:57 PM

DaveInDenver

05-25-2006, 10:17 PM

I can either meet the group Saturday night or at the trailhead on Sunday. I'm probably going to come down and spend Friday and Saturday exploring, then hike all day Sunday, driving home Monday morning.

Like DaveinDenver said, it is a class 1 hike, but that much elevation gain will be a hard hike (for me anyway). That's about the most I've done in the past.

Here is a link to the Northeast Ridge Route (Standard route). (http://www.14ers.com/routemain.php?route=elbe1&peak=Mt.%20Elbert)

You are absolutely right to point this out. While I'd call it a class 1 technical hike (maybe easy class 2 scramble, the scree field is fairly broad as I recall), it will not be an easy hike due to elevation gain and altitude. That's why I said to assume an 8 hour round trip, acclimatization and mountain sickness could be a real issue. Particularly since you guys are going to spend time enjoying barley pops I'm sure... Ideally we'd all eat perfect diets and avoid alcohol, but that's just no fun is it?

goodtimes

05-26-2006, 05:48 PM

...Particularly since you guys are going to spend time enjoying barley pops I'm sure... Ideally we'd all eat perfect diets and avoid alcohol, but that's just no fun is it?

Pre-hike diet generally does not consist of any thing made with barley &/or hopps. Post-hike diet DEFINATELY includes some though.

BajaTaco

05-26-2006, 09:51 PM

...Ideally we'd all eat perfect diets and avoid alcohol

Somehow that seems to be a contradiction...

DaveInDenver

05-27-2006, 02:30 AM

Somehow that seems to be a contradiction...

Yeah, I'm still waiting for nutritionists to allow substitution of beer servings for bread. It's really just controlled molding of bread in an easy to carry package.

GT, I was just throwing out a typical AMS don't. I ride a summer Forest Service MTB patrol at Buffalo Creek, in far western Jefferson County, about 35 miles west of Denver. The bulk of the area is about 7,500' to 8,300' and I've seen people on their first day from lower elevations who are ill with nausea and headaches. One major thing people coming to the hills here do is drink too much alcohol and not enough water (you're on vacation, dang it, why shouldn't you tip back a few!). But since camp the night before the hike is near Lily Pad Lake, which is about 10,500', I have a feeling that it could be a bit of an issue. I usually recommend to people that they ideally (but isn't really practical) don't camp above 8,000' until spending a week in Denver first, but I'm no doctor. I live at 5,300' and will get a bit of a headache the first night above 10,000' that usually subsides by the second night. But then again I'm not particularly good about avoiding the good stuff (caffeine, alcohol and proteins), although I do tend to drink lots of water and take in tons of carbs.

goodtimes

05-27-2006, 05:09 AM

I grew up in the hills north of Golden (Coal Creek Canyon). I learned early on that drinking alcohol before hiking isn't in my best interest. ;)

pskhaat

05-27-2006, 05:33 AM

And I grew up for many of my years in Evergreen, amazing how many of us are from up there...

pskhaat

05-28-2006, 08:07 PM

Scott, sorry if I missed additional detail:

6/23: Leave the Denver area for camping and some serious 4wd adventure. Nathan (Pangaea) has the trail picked out and we will set camp that night.

What time and place are we meeting in the DEN area? The night of 6/22 I would be more than happy to host a dinner/get-together/pot-luck at my place in Evergreen if anyone would be interested?

upcruiser

06-03-2006, 04:23 PM

DaveInDenver

06-03-2006, 05:59 PM

Wow, this sounds like a fun trip. I'm coaching on snow at Copper untill the 19then was planning to spend a few days messing around here in Colorado before heading home. I might be interested in meeting up for the hike of Elbert. I gotta work out some details though, I was hoping to depart the 23rd to head back to Marquette. It will be interesting to see what kind of snow is left up there by the 26th. There were deep snowpacks this spring but they've been melting super fast with the warm weather. Might not be an issue if it keeps up.

We rode last weekend on the Gold Dust Trail, which is a singletrack that parallels Boreas Pass Rd. We ended up taking a side trail and sitting on the south side of Mt Silverheels, about treeline. We hit 2 snow fields, the deepest was about a foot deep and maybe 6' x 30'. The other was barely ankle deep. Our snowpack isn't great, we got pretty much no big storms this spring and that hurt a lot. Plus, it's been dry, dry, dry since about March.

Scott Brady

06-04-2006, 03:37 AM

Sorry guys, I had a difficult time nailing down schedules and trails, and then decided to fly to Hawaii, so I am a bit distracted.

SO, I am going to propose a few options and will make a democratic decision based on the results.

FRIDAY NIGHT: We have the option of either a camp, or hanging out at Scott's (Pskhaat) for a BBQ and BS session. I am cool with either one, and I am sure Scott is too. If we do the BBQ, we will also have a slide show from Graham on Africa and a slide show on Africa and the Outback Challenge from me.

SATURDAY: This is set, and will include running the Keystone, Webster Pass and possibly Radical Hill trails near Breckenridge. Remote Camp (.

SUNDAY: Another option. We can move the climb to Monday (if that works for everyone. It does for me) and do the Birdseye Gulch 4wd trail and then camp near the trailhead of Elbert. Non-climbers can either camp, or roll back home.

If moving the climb to Monday doesn't work, then we climb on Sunday.

The big change for this will be where camp is on Saturday night, either near Breckenridge, or at Lilly Lake.

I would prefer to hike on Monday and enjoy the trails over the weekend, but if it doesnt work, no problem, we will stick to the original plan. :beer:

18seeds

06-04-2006, 03:55 AM

Wow this trip seems like a lot of fun.. Damm Work taking up my play time... Although I would be a little intimidated by all the experience on this forum.

pskhaat

06-04-2006, 04:03 AM

FRIDAY NIGHT: We have the option of either a camp, or hanging out at Scott's (Pskhaat) for a BBQ and BS session.

Scott, do you mean Thursday or Friday?

goodtimes

06-04-2006, 05:27 AM

I'll vote for staying north and camping both nights. It is a simple matter of logistics for me. I am going to be tight on time anyway, and the drive down to Alpine will just add that much more time in the seat instead of visiting with friends and family.

I may not be able to make it either way on Friday though, and may instead opt to meet you guys Saturday morning somewhere near Breckenridge, which is an easy drive from Lafayette (I hope to not have to do this.....)

As for moving the hike to Monday....I'm not sure if I can swing that or not. Things are crazy at work, and I may need to be back here in Tucson to work on Wednsday...meaning I need to leave Colorado monday night. Driving the jeep that far in one day then getting up and pulling a 12 hour shift the next day doesn't sound too good to me. But if everyone wants to spend another day on the trail Sunday, I'm good with that. I'll be equally happy either way. I'm just getting excited about getting out onto the trail again.....this time in my old stomping grounds, with all you AZ guys! This is going to be a cool trip!

:jump:

gjackson

06-04-2006, 05:44 AM

Scott,

Camping does not preclude slideshows. We have the technology. . .

(Though bugs in the light may be distracting. . .) :ylsmoke:

cheers

Scott Brady

06-04-2006, 08:12 AM

Scott, do you mean Thursday or Friday?

Does Thursday night work for you Scott? That might be a cool option

pskhaat

06-04-2006, 03:25 PM

Yeah, Thursday works beautifully.

DaveInDenver

06-04-2006, 10:34 PM

SATURDAY: This is set, and will include running the Keystone, Webster Pass and possibly Radical Hill trails near Breckenridge.

Be advised that last year when we were pre-running trails for the 3FE Bash Radical Hill was still snowed in on July 10. It took a FZJ80 with 36" Swampers and lockers the better part of an hour of bashing (with a 34" Swamper'd and double locked FJ62 acting as the backing out tow truck) a snow field to open Radical and my little truck with 33" ATs and double lockers still needed a strap to make it through following their tracks. Just pointing this out in case the plans might assume the ability to connect US285, CO9 and US6. This early in the summer, it's entirely possible to hit an impassible section of trail, even for the super capable ExpoWest Taco. For a fun day just poking around, that is naturally not an issue and you can turn around. But, if you are planning to get somewhere specifically you need to cushion your times to include possible detours.

A Few Photos from the area (http://www.armbrusterweb.com/tripsfolder/3febashfolder/3febashpage.html)

Oh, I also wanted to point out that while no where near where you'll be, the weekend of 6/24-25 is the Colorado Brewfest in Ft. Collins. They expect to tap some 300 kegs of beers native to our fair state...

:beer: Brewfest (http://downtownfortcollins.com/festivals.php/brewfest)

Ursidae69

06-05-2006, 02:53 AM

I'm not sure I can hike Monday. I'll see how things are when I get back. You guys just plan what you need too and I'll see if I can make it. :wavey: I'll post more on the 21st or 22nd.

goodtimes

06-05-2006, 03:32 AM

I'm not sure I can hike Monday. I'll see how things are when I get back. You guys just plan what you need too and I'll see if I can make it. :wavey: I'll post more on the 21st or 22nd.

Hey! Arent you supposed to be on your way to Brazil or something like that?!?!?!

Have a good trip d00d!

:suning:

BajaTaco

06-05-2006, 11:30 PM

Dave, thanks for the extra info. It is much appreciated.

I was under the impression that we would be meeting up on Friday in the Denver area and heading out for a Friday night camp. I was hoping to have some hours on Friday morning to make my way in to the Denver area so I didn't have to make it as far on Thursday. My plan was to leave AZ on Wed. night and try to hit some cool stuff along the way (I know I don't have much time - but I haven't crunched the numbers yet to see which route I could afford). Mesa verde was a thought, and/or the route through Durango, Silverton & Ouray. Does anyone have any time-frame (just for driving) figures for possible routes through those areas and getting to Denver?

Hiking on Monday could be tough for me. As much as I'd like to extend the trip another day, I'm not sure I can. Work is full-steam right now. But I am just fine with skipping the hike and just departing as I had scheduled on Monday if you guys would prefer to hit more 4wd trails on Sunday.

Scott Brady

06-05-2006, 11:42 PM

Ok, it is settled.

Thurs. night BBQ, Friday night camp, Saturday trails and Sunday hike. That way the AZ boys can all caravan back/camp together.

This may adjust our trail schedule for Saturday, to make sure we can get to the lakes Saturday night.

durango_60

06-05-2006, 11:46 PM

BajaTaco

06-06-2006, 05:23 PM

Sounds good to me, not sure if I'll make it to Denver for the BBQ but I'm in for the rest of the weekend.

BajaTaco, let me know if you are coming through Durango, I'll gladly caravan the rest of the way with you.

Cool! Do you know about how long it takes to get from Durango to Denver? What would be the best route (given the short timeframe)?

pskhaat

06-06-2006, 06:11 PM

'bout 6 hours. CO160 to CO285 with a quick bypass in Del Norte is generally the quickest way.

BajaTaco

06-06-2006, 06:54 PM

'bout 6 hours. CO160 to CO285 with a quick bypass in Del Norte is generally the quickest way.

Thanks. I also talked to Darren and he said

"...it is 5 hours from Ridgway (10 miles north of Ouray) to my home on the eastern side of Denver. The drive time is the exact same whether you head north to Grand Junction then over via I-70, or head east on Hwy 50 at Montrose, then north on 285 at Poncha Springs. I would probably recommend the latter as it is a bit more scenic.

It is about 80 miles from Durango to Ridgway and I would count on close to two hours for drive time for this awesome stretch."

So that helps a lot with my planning. Thanks guys.

Scott, at this point, do you know where/when exactly we are departing Denver for the trails?

durango_60

06-06-2006, 07:14 PM

Cool! Do you know about how long it takes to get from Durango to Denver? What would be the best route (given the short timeframe)?

The quickest route is to take 285, but that has you skipping Silverton, Ouray, etc.. Getting to Denver usually takes 5.5-6 hrs, getting to Leadville should only take about 4 hrs from Durango, so I'm not sure if I want to go up to Denver and back down to Leadville, I guess it depends if I can make some good sales earlier in the week:ylsmoke: so I feel comfortable taking Thursday off as well.

BajaTaco

06-06-2006, 07:29 PM

...I'm not sure if I want to go up to Denver and back down to Leadville...

Good point. I didn't realize that, but now that you mentioned it and I look at the map... hmmmm...

upcruiser

06-10-2006, 01:48 AM

DaveInDenver

06-14-2006, 03:17 AM

Well, snow shouldn't be an issue for your guy's plans. The snow pack is melting at record rates up here. I've been working up at 12,000 feet for the past 5 days and it is scary how fast it is going right now. 40+ days of record heat and dry weather now.

The boss of a club member got to drive Red Cone this weekend, the USFS opened the gate for a patrol (I think it's adopted by the Mile High Jeep Club?). The trail is still officially closed and the gate is locked again. This jives mostly with what we found in early July in the somewhat worse snow year of 2005. BTW, when he says he got to go back up Red Cone, that is really unique. It's a one way trail and they climbed this:

http://www.armbrusterweb.com/tripsfolder/3febashfolder/files/page10_6.jpg

The bulk of the post:

"Got this from my boss...

...the Forest Service opened up the gate on Red Cone for our patrol to do a first run Saturday. We got over the top and down about 1/3 of the way to Montezuma. We ran into snow in several places that was an absolute mess to get through - lots of winching, high-speed passes, etc. But it was all fun until we ran into a wall of snow 5 feet high. When we climbed up on the snow bank, we could see drifts 5-10 feet thick running down the trail for about 100 yards. We gave up. But that meant we had to go back UP Red Cone. That was an adventure! Not as bad as I feared, but not something I'd do every day. Webster Pass back down to 285 is snowed so much that it might be August before it melts out. Its a huge ridge of snow that extends probably 50 yards down the shelf road and its hard as a rock. We could walk on it without even beginning to sink an inch.

The truck was a mess. I had the top off, so I had mud inside and out - pretty much had one solid brown jeep. But it was worth it - a fun day all around."

Some photos from their trip.

http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b6d835b3127cce98548964bb3900000017108EcNGzVw4cS
This is the top of Red Cone, looking down roughly NW towards Radical Hill area.

http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b6d835b3127cce9854897f3a1200000017108EcNGzVw4cS
The snow field between north side of Red Cone and Webster Pass & Radical Hill.

http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b6d835b3127cce985489673a0a00000017108EcNGzVw4cS
Red Cone is off to the right of the image, from the Michigan Creek (south, US285) side.

upcruiser

06-15-2006, 06:47 PM

Wow, looks to be quite a bit more snowpack there still then there is in the Summit County area. The snow has been melting really fast. We've been working our asses of with snow cats and salt trying to save the snow on top of Copper so we can get our camp done.

Denver area people, watch Channel 6 News tonight.:) We had some media up on the mountain with us today. One more day of skiing tomorrow then its time to act like the weather wants us to.:jumping:

BajaTaco

06-15-2006, 07:41 PM

Great posts from you guys ;) Those red cone pics and story are awesome.

Some recent hiking reports from Elbert indicate it is doable w/o snowshoes.

I am still ironing out my plan, but it looks like I may drive to Mesa Verde on Wed (get there very late), do MVNP on Thurs. morning, and then head to Ouray for the afternoon. Maybe camp in Yankee Boy basin Thurs. night. Get up at the buttcrack o' dawn on Friday and head towards Leadville. I may try to have lunch with my bro' before meeting up with the gang. Awaiting further details on meeting time/place. Durango_60, do you want to hook up on Thurs. evening for a camp near Ouray?

BajaTaco

06-16-2006, 05:51 PM

Don't forget that you want to be coming down from the summit by very early afternoon (my general target is to be back below treeline by 2PM), spending time above treeline in the summer here is risky.

No doubt. NOAA Lightning strike stats for CO. (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/pub/ltg/crh_ltg_time.php) - times throughout the day.

durango_60

06-16-2006, 09:39 PM

Durango_60, do you want to hook up on Thurs. evening for a camp near Ouray?

Sure thing!! I'll skip out of work a little early on Thursday and head up there.

BajaTaco

06-16-2006, 11:06 PM

Sure thing!! I'll skip out of work a little early on Thursday and head up there.

Cool! sent u a PM.

goodtimes

06-16-2006, 11:57 PM

Things aren't looking good for my jeep right now. Something is wrong with the transfer case output shaft....it appears to be bent....and I'm not happy about it.

:mad:

BajaTaco

06-16-2006, 11:59 PM

Things aren't looking good for my jeep right now. Something is wrong with the transfer case output shaft....it appears to be bent....and I'm not happy about it.

:mad:

:eek: NO WAY! :(

goodtimes

06-17-2006, 01:30 AM

Ok, I feel a *little* better, but still not very happy. While the output shaft is OK, the aluminum adaptor for my rear CV driveshaft was not machined correctly. The pilot for the adaptor (which is machined into the t'case companion flange), has .001" runout, while the pilot for the driveshaft (which is machined into the adaptor) has .008" runout....sort of. The adaptor appears to have .007" runout, and when it was mounted on the companion flange, the .001" there, combined with the .007 on the adaptor works out to .008, which is what I measured.

Via 3rd party e-mail with Tom Woods (while I was at work today), .008" runout on the adaptor is way outside of thier tolerances. Unfortunately.....they are closed until Monday, and I have no way to make a new adaptor, since the lathe and Mill are sitting in the shop with no power run to them yet.

So, my only hope was to index the adaptor in relation to the companion flange in such a manner that the .001 on the flange was in the opposite direction of the .007" in the adaptor....giving me a net .006" runout. I have managed to accomplish this, and verified I have .006" runout on the pilot. Now to road test...cross your fingers. If this doesn't work, it will be Monday before I can get the right part, which means a Tuesday delivery.

:o

BajaTaco

06-17-2006, 01:39 AM

Via 3rd party e-mail with Tom Woods (while I was at work today), .008" runout on the adaptor is way outside of thier tolerances....

So, my only hope was to index the adaptor in relation to the companion flange in such a manner that the .001 on the flange was in the opposite direction of the .007" in the adaptor....giving me a net .006" runout. I have managed to accomplish this, and verified I have .006" runout on the pilot.

Damn, your good. ;) My fingers are crossed - good luck! The road is calling you...

goodtimes

06-17-2006, 02:37 AM

My fingers are crossed - good luck! The road is calling you...

The road may be calling, but the jeep isn't answering. Had to take a break for some food.....it's been a long week, and I have one more idea to try before I give up getting the jeep on the road in time for this trip. Keep those fingers crossed.

goodtimes

06-17-2006, 04:24 AM

Nope. I give up.

*edited to remove frustrated rant.

BajaTaco

06-17-2006, 05:54 PM

That sux GT. I'm really sorry to hear that :smilies27 So are you going to drive the big rig? Still going to make the trip?

gjackson

06-18-2006, 04:11 PM

So, is there a plan on where and when to meet? For both the trip and the BBQ?

thanks

pskhaat

06-19-2006, 06:33 PM

So, is there a plan on where and when to meet?... BBQ?

Just had a great little vacation with Telluride, some 'Junction wine and Evergreen Rodeo all mixed in, back at work (remote) in DEN area now.

Okay, for the BBQ, plan on meeting at my place in Evergreen at let's say 5:00pm this Thursday?

The address is 4742 S CEDAR RD, EVERGREEN, 80439. It's on the south side of Evergreen lake very near the town center. Let me know if you need more information; it's an old red `cabin' with green shutters and white trip on north side of Cedar Rd as you're driving in. You'll see my FZJ80 out front.

I'll plan on the standard grill food (unless someone says otherwise) and some various brews if y'all want to bring some side dishes. Let me know.

gjackson

06-19-2006, 10:12 PM

Sound good! Thanks for the info. Looking forward to it! :eatchicke

cheers

Scott Brady

06-20-2006, 03:53 AM

Sorry for the lack of defined plan on this trip. Thanks for being flexible on this everyone. I hope to have the final word tomorrow.

I am in Colorado Springs now. A few days of conferences and then play time :)

BajaTaco

06-20-2006, 04:40 AM

You know me - flexibility... just call me the itinerary yogi :elkgrin:

Scott (pskhaat), as much as I would love to make it for the BBQ, I won't be up that far north by Thursday night. I will just see some of you(?) on Friday.

durango_60 - are you going to be along for the duration of the trip through Monday? Or are you headed back to Durango on Friday? [EDIT] Sorry... short memory. You had mentioned you would be with us for the rest of the weekend - sorry 'bout that.

...A few days of conferences and then play time :)

:victory: :sunny:

Ursidae69

06-20-2006, 04:56 PM

durango_60

06-20-2006, 05:17 PM

durango_60 - are you going to be along for the duration of the trip through Monday? Or are you headed back to Durango on Friday? [EDIT] Sorry... short memory. You had mentioned you would be with us for the rest of the weekend - sorry 'bout that.

:victory: :sunny:

I'll be with you from Thursday evening to Sunday afternoon, then headed home. I even talked 3fj80(pskhaat's brother) into coming with me!

BajaTaco

06-20-2006, 07:10 PM

I might not make the Sunday hike. I am still in Sao Paulo, the Brazillian airlines were running 6 hours late last night and I missed my international connections (all part of the adventure). I should be back in the states on Thursday, but I may be pretty wiped out for a hike on the weekend. I´ll check back later this week. :wavey:

C'mon Chuck, getting stuck at int'l airports, sleeping on buses and dirt floors... hiking 14'ers with jetlag... it's all part of the adventure lifestyle. You can do it! :p

I'll be with you from Thursday evening to Sunday afternoon, then headed home. I even talked 3fj80(pskhaat's brother) into coming with me!

Right ON! :victory: