Ford F150 Raptor project

[haven]

Several online sources are talking about a Ford project to increase the F150's off-road capability. The program, called Raptor, is working primarily on suspension components. The test vehicles have remote reservoir shocks and twice as much suspension travel. Also mounted are 35 inch tires.

Here's one photo

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/raptor-1.jpg

More photos on Autoblog
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/29/report-ford-working-on-f-150-raptor/

The Raptor program might be in response to the Dodge Power Wagon, introduced in 2005. It would be great if Ford, Chevy and Dodge decided to compete to see who could make the most off-road capable 4x4!

Chip Haven

[Shovel]

If those are 35" tires, that's a HUGE truck... and I don't want it.

How about if the manufacturers compete to see who can make the best 1984 4runner for under $20k? I'd actually buy that.

[dennisuello]

It's more of a race truck, than an off-roader.

[Shovel]

Race trucks bother me too... why would you put a cargo box on a race vehicle? It reminds me of potato-sack-races or those folks who race couches, barstools, cars with camp trailers, and whatever these things are: http://www.weblogcartoons.com/cartoons/tdf07-4.jpg

"Let's see who's fastest despite a handicap!"

Sure, people love to race pickups but then they make fun of the guy who tries to haul lumber with his Jetta (http://www.snopes.com/photos/automobiles/lumber.asp). I think they're both a little slow.

[4Rescue]

If those are 35" tires, that's a HUGE truck... and I don't want it.

How about if the manufacturers compete to see who can make the best 1984 4runner for under $20k? I'd actually buy that.
Yeah and that would actualy hold it's value over 5 years too...

The world already has a Raptor, and it's made by Yamaha...

I love the assertion that it would be "...like a Dakar or Score racing truck available to the public..." Yeah Right.

[calamaridog]

Chip,

Good find. I like it. Nice to see Ford fight back.

[jaacina]

That is just a photo of the 2009 Ford. The Raptor will be based off it. That is what the article states. So it does not have 35" tires.

[4Rescue]

That is just a photo of the 2009 Ford. The Raptor will be based off it. That is what the article states. So it does not have 35" tires.
That makes more sence...

[ujoint]

It's a good idea to make some extra $$, but you know what's gonna happen........ Some guys with more $$ then sense are going to think they bought a race truck and hammer the thing as quick as they can find some dirt. Do you really think Ford wants to deal with that?

[dennisuello]

Race trucks bother me too... why would you put a cargo box on a race vehicle?
What would you race? Where would the spare tires and fuel cell would go? Desert race trucks are not really trucks, as in they have no functional box. Using trucks is more traditional, back when desert racing started, trucks were to most available and affordable platform to build on.

[Shovel]

then why make it look like a truck? I just don't get it. like "nascar" was supposed to be stock cars, right? like, you could go to the dealership and buy what you saw racing... but instead they're tube chassis race vehicles with headlight decals that look sorta like the headlight shape of some actual car, and that's where the similarities end. that's stupid.

the only part that makes sense is if someone just wants to race, and all they got or all they could afford is a pickup truck. cool. but then once it becomes a money sport it's lame again.

[Bella PSD]

then why make it look like a truck? I just don't get it. like "nascar" was supposed to be stock cars, right? like, you could go to the dealership and buy what you saw racing... but instead they're tube chassis race vehicles with headlight decals that look sorta like the headlight shape of some actual car, and that's where the similarities end. that's stupid.

the only part that makes sense is if someone just wants to race, and all they got or all they could afford is a pickup truck. cool. but then once it becomes a money sport it's lame again.

This is the second thing we agree on!:wings: I am keeping track... NASCAR is so far gone from were in started…it’s just dumb. (Plus NASCAR owes ME $2,200 I will never see!!!!!) They were a client of mine for 3-4 years.

Now if the Ford Raptor is to go up against the Dodge Power Wagon, that would be cool. I would want more off road than race truck.

[4Rescue]

Now if the Ford Raptor is to go up against the Dodge Power Wagon, that would be cool. I would want more off road than race truck.


Based on the statements about what will be done to it, the "raptor" will be nothing like the Power Wagon.

[Bella PSD]

yep! And that's to bad!

[haven]

Autoblog has more photos of the presumed "Raptor" project. In them you can more clearly see the flared "Trophy Truck" style front fenders and the bigger wheels and tires.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/12/spy-shots-ford-f150-raptor-caught-roaming-the-streets/

Chip Haven

[4Rescue]

yep! And that's to bad!
Agreed... Sad indeed.

Cheers

Dave

[Shovel]

I do like to see "tough" factory variants of wider market vehicles... it lets premium buyers, or purpose buyers get a tough vehicle that suits their needs - while keeping enough platform similarities that aftermarket parts, replacement parts, and other related needs are produced "for the masses" and still fit their premium vehicle as well.

Kinda like the ZR2 s10's ;)

[haven]

Bless their hearts, Ford still thinks an off-road performance
truck is a good idea.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/F150-Raptor.jpg

Where did the Blue Oval go?

SVT is now involved in Ford's Raptor F150 project. There's
a 6.2L V8 under development for release next year.

Here are two videos showing the Raptor being chased
by a helicopter across the California desert at up to
60 mph.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/31/video-ford-f-150-raptor-svt-storming-across-the-desert/

Hotrod F150s will take a prominent place in Ford's booth at
SEMA, too.

There's an in-depth article on the Raptor at Pickuptrucks.com
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2008/11...aptor-has.html

[R_Lefebvre]

I have heard about this thing, and it's not a sticker job. It's the real deal. Still, too bad it's doomed to failure because of the current state of the economy.

[chrismc]

...and here's the snapshot from the SEMA booth:

http://www.motivemagazine.com/emAlbum/albums/Events/Industry%20Shows/SEMA%20Show/2008/Day%202%20Photo%20Gallery/1074.jpg

[R_Lefebvre]

Just too bad the front end is so fugly.

[locrwln]

I like it and think it would be a fun truck to own, will I buy one, doubt it. But I do like it, alot.

Jack

[Ryanmb21]

I love it too, especially the front end. Very cool truck. I read this article (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=135146) and it sounds like a killer package including a locker that can be locked at any speed.

[the1jzahn]

It can also be locked on two wheel drive.

[haven]

After taking a third place in its class in the Baja 1000 last November, the Raptor-R pickup will be entered in the 2009 "Best in the Desert" series of five off-road races. The truck will be a private entry, although Ford engineers will be keeping an eye on the truck.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/02/ford-f150-svt-raptor-r-to-run-in-best-in-the-desert-offroad-series.html

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/05/ford-svt-raptor-r-to-run-in-2009-best-in-the-desert-series/

[CapelConcepts]

...and here's the snapshot from the SEMA booth:

http://www.motivemagazine.com/emAlbum/albums/Events/Industry%20Shows/SEMA%20Show/2008/Day%202%20Photo%20Gallery/1074.jpg

Chrismc,
What day did you take this pic? I was at SEMA Wed-Fri and I didn't see this one...I saw the "stock" version. I heard rumors from a friend of mine that the rear end under the race truck still had the shipping info on from our buddy Sandy to where this truck was built.

BTW, the truck got 3rd in Class 8 (which is one step below Trophy Truck). It was supposed to race in the Stock Full Size (which keeps everything factory stock...minus the shocks and a roll cage). Third place is pretty damn impressive! Shoot finishing is pretty damn impressive!

I like it! It's pretty darn cool in person!

[jim65wagon]

I don't get it....
Dodge builds the Power Wagon...cool
Ford builds the Raptor...cool

Toyota builds...the Rock Warrior....seriously?, no sliders, no real skidplates, no locker....how does that make me not want to buy a Raptor?

[Tree]

I like it! :drool:

[Totenkopf]

Coolest truck from Ford in a while. I'll wait for one with the bigger engine though.

[CapelConcepts]

I don't get it....
Dodge builds the Power Wagon...cool
Ford builds the Raptor...cool

Toyota builds...the Rock Warrior....seriously?, no sliders, no real skidplates, no locker....how does that make me not want to buy a Raptor?

Toyota had a bad MMM rig at SEMA too!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0487.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0490.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0499.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0492.jpg

IRS and a supercharged 4.0L.....I liked it and I'm not even a Toyota fan!

[vcsnover]

I think the Raptor looks bad MMMMM and were money no issue I would buy one just cause it looks cool... shallow, yes. But it's still cool.

[buddha]

I've heard recent rumors that ford is canceling plans to build the raptor due to the economy. anyone have more info on that? is it even true?

[Totenkopf]

I've heard recent rumors that ford is canceling plans to build the raptor due to the economy. anyone have more info on that? is it even true?
If you heard that, the person you heard it from was wrong.

[haven]

Ford has set the pricing for the Raptor:

$39,000 is the MSRP for the 5.4L V8 and suspension package
$42,000 buys the 6.2L V8 (400 hp, 400 ft-lbs) and suspension
$395 buys an interior accent package (orange seat inserts, orange mesh trim)
$1950 adds a luxury package (heated leather seats, Sony audio, and other stuff
$1075 buys the exterior graphics

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/04/racing-in-the-raptor-r.html

[haven]

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/first-drive-review-2010-ford-f150-svt-raptor.html

Pickuptrucks.com drives the 2010 Ford Raptor, finds the truck to be fantastic in high speed desert driving, and capable of low speed trail running. The Dodge Ram Power Wagon has a sharper focus on low speed off-road maneuvers.

Edit: Here are a couple more online articles singing praises for the Raptor:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/24/first-drive-2010-ford-f-150-svt-raptor-is-a-diamond-on-the-roug/

Intereting note from the Autoblog article: "SVT found that the standard compound [of the BFG A/T tire] didn't work well in mud and snow, which would be a huge obstacle to Midwestern buyers (and the Michigan-based SVT workers themselves), so they worked with BFG and changed the thickness, belt angle, and compound to create a tire that could handle actual seasons and not make a lot of noise while doing it. With all that, the tires are just $200 each to replace."

http://jalopnik.com/5343872/2010-ford-f+150-svt-raptor-first-drive

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0911_2010_ford_f150_svt_raptor_drive/index.html

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=155646

[jh504]

Whether you like the Raptor or not I am always glad to see someone putting forth some effort to create a more offroad friendly 4x4. I support any company's efforts in producing a stronger, more capable product.

[typ3]

Toyota had a bad MMM rig at SEMA too!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0487.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0490.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0499.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/wecapel/SEMA%2008/IMG_0492.jpg

IRS and a supercharged 4.0L.....I liked it and I'm not even a Toyota fan!

As far as I'm concerned, in off-road vehicles the less independently sprung axles, the better. IRS ... barf.

The Raptor's pretty cool, and hopefully Ford will get around to throwing a few bones to those off-roaders who do more crawling the dune-racing.

[78Bronco]

How about a real Ford Bronco again Mr. Ford?:ylsmoke:

[jh504]

How about a real Ford Bronco again Mr. Ford?:ylsmoke:

Yes, please! I thought they were going to do that a few years back?

[haven]

Edmunds Inside Line has posted a road test (and off-road test) of the new 2010 Raptor. They love it.

Included in the article is a note that the cargo capacity of the Raptor is 993 lbs. That's up from the 800 lbs figure I had read elsewhere. Just remember that the Raptor has a cargo capacity that's about 3/4 that of a Tacoma.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=158946

There's also a good explanation of the Raptor's suspension in the Inside Line Blogs section. Lots of clear high resolution photos in this link

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2009/10/2010-ford-f-150-svt-raptor-suspension-walkaround.html

Chip Haven

[78Bronco]

Yes, please! I thought they were going to do that a few years back?

They were but it was going to be based off the Ford Escape :yuk

[Cody1771]

PS Class 8 is not a "step" below trophy... as far as class numbering system yes. but when it comes to design and performance no... Class 8 is for production full size vehicles that for the most part are stock, which some suspension and performance exeptions, and might i add 4WD, where trophy are 2WD trucks.

[cruiseroutfit]

There will be a Raptor on display at the Miller Motorsports Park this coming weekend for the MMP Expo. If anyone is interested in some specific photos I'd be glad to snap them.

[nwoods]

How about a real Ford Bronco again Mr. Ford?:ylsmoke:

Did you see the concept they released a few years ago? I loved it! That was back in the day when Ford owned Land Rover, and there was a LOT of buzz about the Bronco being the USA version of a new Defender. I wish!

http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/full/TorqueOmata3880.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Ford-Bronco_Concept_2004_1024x768_wallpaper_04.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Ford-Bronco_Concept_2004_1024x768_wallpaper_08.jpg

http://images53.fotki.com/v1574/photos/9/9586/39890/BRONCO05-vi.jpg

[JRH_PowerWagon_06]

I think that Bronco Concept was just a rolling model. Unlike the 2004 Concept Cobra that was a real mule.

[78Bronco]

Did you see the concept they released a few years ago? I loved it! That was back in the day when Ford owned Land Rover, and there was a LOT of buzz about the Bronco being the USA version of a new Defender. I wish!

http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/full/TorqueOmata3880.jpg



Agreed. The Bronco concept was a roller and barely what I would call a bronco. It had some hype but really it was a flop. If I was incharge of that concept it would have been fully functional and climbing up soomething in the display booth. It also would have been a fullsize not a compact Escape/LR with independent suspension front and rear. Does that roof even come off?

[dzzz]

I doubt ford will make a full size truck with a wheelbase that short again. So many more choices exist now compared to when the Bronco was made. It's a lot easier to build variants like the Raptor.
The Expedition may be the shortest F150 variant.

Edit: I see Wikipedia lists the Expedition as the Bronco's replacement.

[haven]

At SEMA, Ford announced that its dealers will begin accepting orders
for the 2010 Raptor with 6.2L V8 starting December 1.

The original Raptor's motor is the 5.4L V8, rated to produce 320-hp
and 390 ft-lbs. The new 6.2L V8 is rated at 411-hp and 434 ft-lbs.
Aside from the engine, and maybe some strengthening of the drivetrain
to deal with the extra power, the 2010 truck is the same as the original.

The Raptor with 6.2L V8 will cost $42,000, about $3000 more than
the 2009 Raptor cost.

Ford also announced that it will build the Raptor XT, an off-road-only
version with 500 hp, full roll cage, front locking differential, longer
travel suspension and beadlock wheels. Price: $99,950.
Production of the XT is limited (at present) to only 50 vehicles.

Despite the race orientation, the Raptor XT interior will be based on
a standard F150, with leather seats, power windows, and air
conditioning. Too bad that the XT won't be available in time to
chase the Dakar Rally across Argentina this January!

[jdholder]

Any word at SEMA if Ford will be offering the Raptor in the Crew Cab version?

Thanks!

Jon

[haven]

I saw an all-black Raptor on the highway yesterday --
very sweet in a sinister sort of way! I think I do prefer
the brighter colors.

Ford has been spotted testing a crew cab version of the
Raptor, but there has been no announcement that they
will produce one. It seems like a natural development of
the model line.

Here's one photo:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/09/spied-ford-f150-svt-raptor-supercrew-crew-cab.html

[haven]

Even Raptors have to obey the laws of physics -- or risk ending up like this one

http://jalopnik.com/5447217/first-ford-svt-raptor-wrecked-in-suspension+ripping-rollover

[DesertTaco]

Here's a few pics of my Raptor shot a few weeks ago while driving "El Camino El Diablo" (the devil's highway) just southeast of Yuma, AZ.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2767/4242826927_8b111a3ab4_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4242826657_b9090f71ae_b.jpg

The truck is a blast to drive on wide open desert roads but a bit of a handfull when it comes to narrow trails. I'm having second thoughts about buying it and am wondering if I should "dump" it and either get another Tacoma (I miss my '06 4x4 DoubleCab TRD) of try the Off Road Xterra...

[RU55ELL]

You would take a heck of a hit if you got out of that truck right now.

[strange]

Thinking of getting rid of it already? How bout this, my broncos not as wide, turns tighter on the trail and gets 25 mpg highway....how bout we just trade straight up? :D

those are some nice pictures, i like the look of it without the graphics

[cruiserlarry]

While the F-150 Raptor is a nice attempt at a niche off-road specific truck, it has some issues, IMO. First, it is ridiculously overpriced, lthough the body work is very nicely done, the suspension could be done aftermarket for less. A bigger problem in my mind is the front fascia - it's definitely not off-road friendly. Seems Ford would have been wise to design a higher clearance pre-run style fascia instead of one that hangs so low and is so easy to rip off on the trail.

If you are really into trail runs, I think the Tacoma, with an Icon suspension, would do you better for half the price (and long term, probably half the maintenance :Wow1:). But is does look awesome....:bike_rider:

[matt s]

While the F-150 Raptor is a nice attempt at a niche off-road specific truck, it has some issues, IMO. First, it is ridiculously overpriced, lthough the body work is very nicely done, the suspension could be done aftermarket for less. A bigger problem in my mind is the front fascia - it's definitely not off-road friendly. Seems Ford would have been wise to design a higher clearance pre-run style fascia instead of one that hangs so low and is so easy to rip off on the trail.

If you are really into trail runs, I think the Tacoma, with an Icon suspension, would do you better for half the price (and long term, probably half the maintenance :Wow1:). But is does look awesome....:bike_rider:

Federal regs. All trucks have to now have bumpers that are closer to the ground so that when they smack into little cars they don't eat them for lunch.

[nwoods]

If you are really into trail runs, I think the Tacoma, with an Icon suspension, would do you better for half the price (and long term, probably half the maintenance :Wow1:). But is does look awesome....:bike_rider:

But you'd be missing out on all the fancy engine tuning and transmission software set points.....

[DesertTaco]

While the F-150 Raptor is a nice attempt at a niche off-road specific truck, it has some issues, IMO. First, it is ridiculously overpriced, lthough the body work is very nicely done, the suspension could be done aftermarket for less.

I respectfully disagree...

I was walking the lot at the Ford dealer today and the Raptor has to be one of the MOST reasonably priced trucks on the lot. You really get alot for your money. The Raptor is priced "only" $2,000 - $3000 more than a standard FX4. You can't even begin to approach the total suspension package that you get in the Raptor for anything less than $8000 in the aftermarket, AND it's fully covered by a factory warranty (the shocks are covered for 10 years or 100,000 miles.

If you can resist all the extra "non-sense" options that are available for the Raptor, you can get one for a pretty good price. I paid $37,500 for mine while a 1010 Toyota DoubleCab Tacoma TRD Off-Road will set you back around $33,000. It just depends on what you looking for.

It just kind of sucks that after all I've said, I wish I had my "old" Taco back...

[DesertTaco]

By the way, I won't be buying the Xterra. I drove a 2010 Off-Road model today and I was VERY un-impressed. I just wasn't happy with the build quality or the ride.

I guess if I end up selling the Raptor, I'll be going back to a Tacoma...

[ujoint]

Great pics!!

[haven]

Here's another (off) road test of the Raptor with 5.4L V8.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/02/road-test-review-2010-ford-f150-svt-raptor.html

[Regcabguy]

Thinking of getting rid of it already? How bout this, my broncos not as wide, turns tighter on the trail and gets 25 mpg highway....how bout we just trade straight up? :D

those are some nice pictures, i like the look of it without the graphics 25 mpg,out of a Bronco? Are we talking about a 1978+ V8 full sized one? Everyone I have spoken to gets maybe 13-14 max.

[strange]

25 mpg,out of a Bronco? Are we talking about a 1978+ V8 full sized one? Everyone I have spoken to gets maybe 13-14 max.
yea it got 12-14 with the gasser , but its diesel now

[jh504]

yea it got 12-14 with the gasser , but its diesel now

Which diesel did you put in it?

[Life_in_4Lo]

I love the Raptor! Don't sell it! You would be crazy to sell, imo.

Saw one and it is great. Just the fact a car company did this is just amazing and for the price!!! It's a steal. They added a lot to the F150 yet is priced very much like a high production unit.

[Life_in_4Lo]

While the F-150 Raptor is a nice attempt at a niche off-road specific truck, it has some issues, IMO. First, it is ridiculously overpriced, lthough the body work is very nicely done, the suspension could be done aftermarket for less. A bigger problem in my mind is the front fascia - it's definitely not off-road friendly. Seems Ford would have been wise to design a higher clearance pre-run style fascia instead of one that hangs so low and is so easy to rip off on the trail.

If you are really into trail runs, I think the Tacoma, with an Icon suspension, would do you better for half the price (and long term, probably half the maintenance :Wow1:). But is does look awesome....:bike_rider:

at first blush it may seem like that but I disagree.

Price is completely reasonable. Price one, you will see.

The suspension is awesome. Tell me where you can buy a gorgeous alloy lower control arm like the one they developed for the Raptor... for any price- doesn't exist.
The Fox shocks are specially tuned for this truck. Entire thing was developed and tuned by SVT and FOX. Buying parts is one thing, tuning them is another.

Front end is not low and easily removable lower parts like they did for the desert racing Raptors.

I read it has special rubber compound BFG AT's too.

Front IFS travel is about equal to a Taco REAR axle travel.

The Raptor will kill any other production or near-production truck at high speed offroad. You can argue the Taco but the Raptor is wider and longer-so it's more stable and the width (tho against it on tight trails) will let it run FAST. I'm pretty sure it will run faster than even a LT Taco.

The 5.4L is a bit down on power for this platform (bigger V8 coming for the Raptor later) but it's a pretty solid engine and best 150 platform to date.
I would put the dependability up there and be confident with it-- I think it's just such a cool ride.

[jh504]

at first blush it may seem like that but I disagree.

Price is completely reasonable. Price one, you will see.

The suspension is awesome. Tell me where you can buy a gorgeous alloy lower control arm like the one they developed for the Raptor... for any price- doesn't exist.
The Fox shocks are specially tuned for this truck. Entire thing was developed and tuned by SVT and FOX. Buying parts is one thing, tuning them is another.

Front end is not low and easily removable lower parts like they did for the desert racing Raptors.

I read it has special rubber compound BFG AT's too.

Front IFS travel is about equal to a Taco REAR axle travel.

The Raptor will kill any other production or near-production truck at high speed offroad. You can argue the Taco but the Raptor is wider and longer-so it's more stable and the width (tho against it on tight trails) will let it run FAST. I'm pretty sure it will run faster than even a LT Taco.

The 5.4L is a bit down on power for this platform (bigger V8 coming for the Raptor later) but it's a pretty solid engine and best 150 platform to date.
I would put the dependability up there and be confident with it-- I think it's just such a cool ride.

Looks like the 6.2L is available.

[Ryanmb21]

at first blush it may seem like that but I disagree.

Price is completely reasonable. Price one, you will see.

The suspension is awesome. Tell me where you can buy a gorgeous alloy lower control arm like the one they developed for the Raptor... for any price- doesn't exist.
The Fox shocks are specially tuned for this truck. Entire thing was developed and tuned by SVT and FOX. Buying parts is one thing, tuning them is another.

Front end is not low and easily removable lower parts like they did for the desert racing Raptors.

I read it has special rubber compound BFG AT's too.

Front IFS travel is about equal to a Taco REAR axle travel.

The Raptor will kill any other production or near-production truck at high speed offroad. You can argue the Taco but the Raptor is wider and longer-so it's more stable and the width (tho against it on tight trails) will let it run FAST. I'm pretty sure it will run faster than even a LT Taco.

The 5.4L is a bit down on power for this platform (bigger V8 coming for the Raptor later) but it's a pretty solid engine and best 150 platform to date.
I would put the dependability up there and be confident with it-- I think it's just such a cool ride.

I agree with this post. I'll trade you straight up for my '06 4runner.

[DesertTaco]

Just wanted to let you all know that I ended up keeping my Raptor. I did try to sell it but didn't want to loose that much $ in the process. I've got about 5000 miles on it now and am still getting used to the over-all size but can't fault Ford for making such a fun truck to drive off-road...

[fishy_frontier]

Price is completely reasonable. Price one, you will see.

The suspension is awesome. Tell me where you can buy a gorgeous alloy lower control arm like the one they developed for the Raptor... for any price- doesn't exist.
The Fox shocks are specially tuned for this truck. Entire thing was developed and tuned by SVT and FOX. Buying parts is one thing, tuning them is another.

I read it has special rubber compound BFG AT's too.

The Raptor will kill any other production or near-production truck at high speed offroad. You can argue the Taco but the Raptor is wider and longer-so it's more stable and the width (tho against it on tight trails) will let it run FAST. I'm pretty sure it will run faster than even a LT Taco.


I'm not bashing the raptor. I really like the concept of the truck, but...

I have to respectfully disagree with the raptor being reasonably priced. I have priced one. I could go get a new Tacoma or Frontier for $25k and have $20k left for mods. With that much mod money I could easily make a raptor killer and have more fun doing it than just buying the truck.

I could find or have fabricated lower control arms that are just as sexy and stronger than the lca's on the raptor depending on the vehicle.

The BFG AT's on the raptor probably just have a softer compound so they wear out faster and the dealership makes more money on replacement tires.

I wouldn't argue the taco cause the raptor would kill it if the taco was stock.

[fishy_frontier]

Just wanted to let you all know that I ended up keeping my Raptor. I did try to sell it but didn't want to loose that much $ in the process. I've got about 5000 miles on it now and am still getting used to the over-all size but can't fault Ford for making such a fun truck to drive off-road...

Good to hear that you kept it:)

[Wonderland]

I have to respectfully disagree with the raptor being reasonably priced. I have priced one. I could go get a new Tacoma or Frontier for $25k and have $20k left for mods. With that much mod money I could easily make a raptor killer and have more fun doing it than just buying the truck.

.

You could build this for about the same $$$...which will have better suspension than the Raptor. Sure the Raptor has more power, but if you can't get it to the ground...

A super charged Toyota 4.0 isn't too far off from the HP of a 5.4 Ford. Power to weight ratio might be real close between the two.

http://www.superduty-hq.com/Projects/proj002/0087.jpg





Ford finally got the styling right with the Raptor, too bad the regular F150 didn't get the same.

[fishy_frontier]

^Nice. I'd much rather have the suspension setup on that taco, but that's just me:ylsmoke:

[Wonderland]

^Nice. I'd much rather have the suspension setup on that taco, but that's just me:ylsmoke:

Total Chaos:

http://www.chaosfab.com/86000.html


The build here:

http://www.superduty-hq.com/projects.aspx


What would be really fun...shoe horn in a super charged 5.7 Tundra V8 into the Tacoma chassis....500+ HP...:ylsmoke:

Or throw a long travel kit on a Tundra:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnKfYraR5y8&feature=related

http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/total-chaos-tundra-close-up.jpg

[Life_in_4Lo]

Just wanted to let you all know that I ended up keeping my Raptor. I did try to sell it but didn't want to loose that much $ in the process. I've got about 5000 miles on it now and am still getting used to the over-all size but can't fault Ford for making such a fun truck to drive off-road...

Great!
It's such a cool truck. We just saw a black one today and I love that thing.

[timh]

I test drove a Raptor a while back. If I had the money there would be one in my driveway. The salesman even let me jump it and rave it in the dirt:wings::wings::wings:

[Wonderland]

Crew Cab version looks cool.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/MidnightStorm831/Autos/Raptor4D.jpg


Why are there lift blocks on a $40K truck?

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/assets_c/2009/10/Raptor_sus_1600_rr_springblock-thumb-717x475.jpg

[78Bronco]

You could build this for about the same $$$...which will have better suspension than the Raptor. Sure the Raptor has more power, but if you can't get it to the ground...

A super charged Toyota 4.0 isn't too far off from the HP of a 5.4 Ford. Power to weight ratio might be real close between the two.

http://www.superduty-hq.com/Projects/proj002/0087.jpg





Ford finally got the styling right with the Raptor, too bad the regular F150 didn't get the same.

Factory warranty?

[strider3700]

and most likely resale. A $45,000 truck normally would resell for far closer to $45,000 then a $25,000 truck with $20,000 in mods would.

[Wonderland]

Factory warranty?

I rather build exactly what I want than have a warranty, never owned a vehicle with a warranty. I man up and fix it myself. :ylsmoke:

I do like the Raptor, however it could be done better and cheaper with aftermarket. Seriously lift blocks on a $45K truck, that is just silly.

At least do it right. "If you're not going to right the first time, don't do it it all"

http://www.superduty-hq.com/Projects/proj002/0070.jpg

[Wonderland]

and most likely resale. A $45,000 truck normally would resell for far closer to $45,000 then a $25,000 truck with $20,000 in mods would.


Vehicles are horrible investments especially what is rolling off the line in this modern world. The average consumer is only going to loose money purchasing vehicles, you want to make money on vehicle sales become a dealer.

I buy a vehicle to suit my needs and desires, not about what it is worth down the road. It is only money after all. You can't put a price on the enjoyment one gets out of a vehicle.

And lets be realistic, sure $45K for a truck is a lot of money, but you really aren't being going to Baja and pounding 3-4' truck whoops with 13" of suspension and no roll cage. You need to spend triple-quadruple plus that amount. That or by a dirt bike or a small buggy. If you want to hammer.

http://www.stewartsraceworks.com/

http://image.automotive.com/f/features/10469462+pheader/0809or_11_z+raceworks_2006_ford_f150_prerunner_fin al_step_up+jumping_catching_air.jpg

[haven]

Edmunds Inside Line is reporting (speculating, really) that Ford will
introduce a four door version of the Raptor this Fall.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/04/exclusive-ford-svt-to-build-supercrew-raptor.html

Update: Ford now confirms that the crew cab Raptor will be sold this Fall,
6.2L V8 only. Let's hope the crew cab gets a bump in cargo capacity, too.

Here's a Pickuptrucks.com article with a photo of the test vehicle
referenced in the Inside Line piece.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/09/spied-ford-f150-svt-raptor-supercrew-crew-cab.html

[Just Me]

Kelly Blue Book just posted this Raptor video on Youtube. KBB is not known for making fun videos, but this one is cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3DPkGSOK7M

[haven]

Nice find. It's not too often you see a video produced by KBB that
urges you to "drive like murderous robots are chasing you."

[ujoint]

Cool video, looks like they filmed in in the Eastern Sierras!! Love it...

[haven]

Mike Levine at Pickuptrucks.com got a chance to drive the Raptor with
the new 6.2L V8. His review is here
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/04/first-drive-review-2010-6-2-liter-v-8-ford-f150-svt-raptor.html

The reviewers tested the engine on a chassis dyno, and found that the 6.2L
produces more power and torque at the rear wheels than the original 5.4L
produced at the flywheel. That power means a 0-60 time that's 1.2 seconds
less than the 5.4 V8 produced.

Sean Holman posted his impressions of the same test drive on Four Wheeler.
Sean says the 6.2L gets a slightly revised shock valving that feels more
refined and supple than the setup in the original Raptor.
http://blogs.fourwheeler.com/6637837/reviews/the-raptor-62l-is-out-and-we-got-behind-the-wheel/index.html

The bad news: The pair averaged about 10 mpg in mixed driving, and
14 mpg on the highway. I guess it's hard to keep your foot off the gas!

Base price for the 2010 Raptor with 5.4L V8 is $38K. Add $3K for the 6.2L.

[Fresno]

You could build this for about the same $$$...which will have better suspension than the Raptor. Sure the Raptor has more power, but if you can't get it to the ground...

A super charged Toyota 4.0 isn't too far off from the HP of a 5.4 Ford. Power to weight ratio might be real close between the two.

http://www.superduty-hq.com/Projects/proj002/0087.jpghttp://socalprerunner.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/thesis_16/custom/rotator/131_0903_01_z+march_2009_auto_news+ford_raptor_svt .jpg





Ford finally got the styling right with the Raptor, too bad the regular F150 didn't get the same.



I don't know how you can back that up. First off, I own and drive a Raptor 6.2. I paid well below the 45K you state - out the door.

411 hp and a Special Vehicle Team/Fox suspension and you think you can match that with a Toyota and 20K at the local 4 wheel parts store? Show me.

The fact is this is a proven off road truck. Check out the Born in Baja video or the numerous owners beating the hell out of these stock Raptors on YouTube. This truck was designed by the factory to catch air, get sideways and haul ***.

Build what you want, but be honest about it. $41K for a brand new, limited production, 411hp pre runner with a factory warranty (and did I mention it looks incredible?) - you can't beat it.

[olympiccop2002]

First off, I own and drive a Raptor 6.2.

Check out the Born in Baja video or the numerous owners beating the hell out of these stock Raptors on YouTube.

This truck was designed by the factory to catch air, get sideways and haul ***.

You going to do the same thing with yours or what? Where's the pics! Let's see the awesomeness in action! :smiley_drive:

[Spur]

Saw one up close for the first time last weekend. I was really impressed. I haven't been this impressed by a factory truck since the powerwagon came out. At a car show full of junk that nobody cares about, the raptor stood head and shoulders above the rest. I would love to go fast in one some day.

Got to say though, first thing I would do is get rid of that hideous grill. Can't stand it.

[Fresno]

Doing the Oregon Coast at the beginning of next month. Will post some pics of the Raptor doing its thing with a camper shell no less.


Got to say though, first thing I would do is get rid of that hideous grill. Can't stand it.

I love the grill. Ford makes a nice light bar that holds 4 eight inch lights, covers most of the grill which will make you happy. Still researching which lights I want.

[SpaceWrangler]

I don't know how you can back that up. First off, I own and drive a Raptor 6.2. I paid well below the 45K you state - out the door.

411 hp and a Special Vehicle Team/Fox suspension and you think you can match that with a Toyota and 20K at the local 4 wheel parts store? Show me.

The fact is this is a proven off road truck. Check out the Born in Baja video or the numerous owners beating the hell out of these stock Raptors on YouTube. This truck was designed by the factory to catch air, get sideways and haul ***.

Build what you want, but be honest about it. $41K for a brand new, limited production, 411hp pre runner with a factory warranty (and did I mention it looks incredible?) - you can't beat it.


i don't think any of the aftermarket parts on that tacoma came from 4wp.

and no matter how you cut it. ...the raptor is still sitting on blocks! that's weak sauce.

as far as the warranty. ..you think ford is going to cover under warranty the parts you break from hard landings? just try to get them to replace a blown shock, bent control arm, or broken mount. ..they'll likely tell you to go pound sand.



now, ..this is what you can get for a measly $16k

http://image.automotive.com/f/features/10700746+pheader/0811or_14_z+2005_toyota_tacoma_4wd_trd_terrific_ta coma+front.jpg

http://offroad.automotive.com/94428/0811or-2005-toyota-tacoma-4wd-trd-terrific-tacoma/index.html

try to imagine what could be done by dumping another $24k into it.

[Life_in_4Lo]

Doing the Oregon Coast at the beginning of next month. Will post some pics of the Raptor doing its thing with a camper shell no less.



I love the grill. Ford makes a nice light bar that holds 4 eight inch lights, covers most of the grill which will make you happy. Still researching which lights I want.

cool , look fwd to the pics!

Love the 6.2 Raptor. There are a few Raptors running around my area.

I HATED the grill in photos but once you see the truck in real life, it's really impressive.
The truck is WIDE and looks great. The styling on the hood, fenders, grill all look aggressive and well-executed.

Love that Ford made something like this!

[haven]

Mike Levine drives the Raptor 6.2, in deep mud this time.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05/second-drive-2010-ford-f150-svt-raptor-62.html

[flyingwil]

Funny, I just saw one of these in the parking lot the other day. Had to drive around it about 4 times. Looks like a nice truck right off the factory line.

[Fresno]

now, ..this is what you can get for a measly $16k

http://image.automotive.com/f/features/10700746+pheader/0811or_14_z+2005_toyota_tacoma_4wd_trd_terrific_ta coma+front.jpg

http://offroad.automotive.com/94428/0811or-2005-toyota-tacoma-4wd-trd-terrific-tacoma/index.html

try to imagine what could be done by dumping another $24k into it.

Really? A 2005 magazine project truck loaded with comp'ed parts and free labor? Sure thing. They sell these where?

[Life_in_4Lo]

although i'm a toyota nut, this kind of argument is silly.

First of all, Ford made a production desert runner. Not Toyota.
They come stock with FOX racing shocks, LT suspension and 6.2L grunt. Not Toyota. Ford developed this product into a genuine performace offroad star that comes with a full factory warranty.

For what they did, the price is more than fair. If you want a genuine production exotic truck, this is it.

As for the warranty, Ford specifically passed durability tests for the Raptor so it could offer the warranty.
Can you run Baja1000 and bring it back broken to have it covered? Probably not, but no factory warranty covers Hummer, Jeep, Dodge nor does a factory warranty cover track abused Vettes, Lambos or Vipers either.

It's a great truck. Ford is proud of it and rightly so. I wish more truck companies would develop production trucks for enthusiasts.
It's like Ford hired a group of US (you and me) to go play in R&D and make the ultimate F150.
What has Toyota done for you lately? Lots of good SEMA candy, nothing on the showroom floor.

[flyingwil]

although i'm a toyota nut, this kind of argument is silly.

First of all, Ford made a production desert runner. Not Toyota.
They come stock with FOX racing shocks, LT suspension and 6.2L grunt. Not Toyota. Ford developed this product into a genuine performace offroad star that comes with a full factory warranty.

For what they did, the price is more than fair. If you want a genuine production exotic truck, this is it.

As for the warranty, Ford specifically passed durability tests for the Raptor so it could offer the warranty.
Can you run Baja1000 and bring it back broken to have it covered? Probably not, but no factory warranty covers Hummer, Jeep, Dodge nor does a factory warranty cover track abused Vettes, Lambos or Vipers either.

It's a great truck. Ford is proud of it and rightly so. I wish more truck companies would develop production trucks for enthusiasts.
It's like Ford hired a group of US (you and me) to go play in R&D and make the ultimate F150.
What has Toyota done for you lately? Lots of good SEMA candy, nothing on the showroom floor.

Well said. After seeing one in person, it really changed my perspective on them.

[brianjwilson]

I wouldn't mind having one of these in my garage!

http://www.rotor-heads.com/images/f150/raptor1.jpg

[ujoint]

I wouldn't mind having one of these in my garage!

http://www.rotor-heads.com/images/f150/raptor1.jpg

Me either!!!!!

[Ryanmb21]

although i'm a toyota nut, this kind of argument is silly.

First of all, Ford made a production desert runner. Not Toyota.
They come stock with FOX racing shocks, LT suspension and 6.2L grunt. Not Toyota. Ford developed this product into a genuine performace offroad star that comes with a full factory warranty.

For what they did, the price is more than fair. If you want a genuine production exotic truck, this is it.

As for the warranty, Ford specifically passed durability tests for the Raptor so it could offer the warranty.
Can you run Baja1000 and bring it back broken to have it covered? Probably not, but no factory warranty covers Hummer, Jeep, Dodge nor does a factory warranty cover track abused Vettes, Lambos or Vipers either.

It's a great truck. Ford is proud of it and rightly so. I wish more truck companies would develop production trucks for enthusiasts.
It's like Ford hired a group of US (you and me) to go play in R&D and make the ultimate F150.
What has Toyota done for you lately? Lots of good SEMA candy, nothing on the showroom floor.

x3 great post! I've seen about 5 of these in SoCal parking lots and I always do a slow lap around them to check out.

[haven]

According to Pickuptrucks.com, Ford engineers will place an EcoBoost turbo V6 in the racing version of the Raptor for durability tests during races this Summer and Fall.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/06/sources-ford-svt-raptor-r-to-be-powered-by-ecoboost-v6.html

Racing success is one way F150 owners might be persuaded to buy V6-powered trucks. Today, the EcoBoost V6 makes as much power and torque as the 5.4L V8. The turbo and variable valve timing puts lots of torque at low RPM, too. The V6 definitely has better fuel economy. But traditional truck buyers want the V8.

[78Bronco]

According to Pickuptrucks.com, Ford engineers will place an EcoBoost turbo V6 in the racing version of the Raptor for durability tests during races this Summer and Fall.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/06/sources-ford-svt-raptor-r-to-be-powered-by-ecoboost-v6.html

Racing success is one way F150 owners might be persuaded to buy V6-powered trucks. Today, the EcoBoost V6 makes as much power and torque as the 5.4L V8. The turbo and variable valve timing puts lots of torque at low RPM, too. The V6 definitely has better fuel economy. But traditional truck buyers want the V8.

I would rather a turbo'd inline 6 with DOHC cross flow head because they have a stronger bottom end.

[haven]

Automobile Magazine sends a writer to ride along with the Yuma AZ sheriff's department as they drive their first Raptor along El Camino del Diablo. Most of the article is filled with observations about how life in the borderlands is different ("in Yuma, you can buy cowboy hats at gas stations"). But there are a few paragraphs worth reading.

Cruising along the sandy track in comfort at 60 mph makes the Raptor a great choice for patrol work along the border. It will be interesting to learn how the Raptor holds up to driving El Camino del Diablo on a daily basis.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1008_2010_ford_f_150_svt_raptor_on_patrol/index.html

[haven]

Ford dealers are accepting orders for the new 2011 Raptor. The truck will be available in Super Cab and Super Crew configurations, both with 5.5 foot bed, and both with the new 6.2L V8 only.

Pickuptrucks.com is reporting that the Super Crew model will ride on a wheelbase that's 12 inches longer than the Super Cab. The Super Crew's extra length permits a fuel tank that holds 36 gallons, 10 gallons more than the Super Cab. Both trucks have a cargo capacity close to 1000 lbs., so it's best to take only your skinny friends on a ride with you.

The Super Crew Raptor is rated to tow up to 8000 lbs. The Super Cab model tows only 6000 lbs.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09/first-look-2011-ford-f150-svt-raptor-supercrew-and-supercab.html

[PAToyota]

Four Wheeler (http://blogs.fourwheeler.com/6709101/whats-new/2011-raptor-adds-improvements/index.html) has a brief article with a picture (http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/whats-new/2011-raptor-adds-improvements/30350227/2011-raptor-supercrew.jpg).

Pretty damn slick looking!

[Regcabguy]

Too bad the Supercab doesn't share the same platform and they lengthen the bedand throw in the 36 gal tank. Makes too much sense I guess. I stood nest to one of the 5.4 versions recently. Those suckers are WIDE! pinstrips coming up!

[Mr. D]

Maybe when my 04 jeep wrangler dies I can dream about a raptor.

[Ryanmb21]

This guy seems to be 'using' his Raptor :Wow1:

YouTube - Best Ford Raptor Jump

[nwoods]

What a cool track!

[Master-Pull]

:Wow1:

That is insane, either that guy has alot of money or huge balls. I don't think I could jump a truck that new for fear of messing it up.

-Alex

[haven]

A company called the Vegas Off Road Experience is offering two day driving "experiences" using the Ford Raptor. You can bring your own Raptor, or rent one from VORE. VORE also offers programs using their custom race trucks, too.

http://www.vore.com/

[haven]

For 2012, the Ford Raptor gets a Torsen limited slip front differential as an option.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/09/ford-unveils-changes-for-2012-f-150-svt-raptor.html

I think there are only four vehicles sold in USA with a limited slip or locking differential in the front axle: Wrangler Rubicon, Dodge Power Wagon, Mercedes G500 and now the Raptor.

The 2012 Raptor also gets an optional camera that shows what's happening right at the front wheels, so you can see where to place your tires as you maneuver over obstacles.

[haven]

Edmunds Inside Line editors drove a 2010 Raptor with 6.2L V8 for 13 months and 23,000 miles. They had a transmission problem that was fixed under warranty. They averaged 13 mpg on premium fuel (hello, $100 fill-ups). And they loved every minute driving the truck.

Good news: They lost only 8% of the truck's purchase price at resale. That depreciation is very low, the sort of story you hear from MINI drivers.

http://www.insideline.com/ford/f-150-svt-raptor/2010/long-term-test-2010-ford-f-150-svt-raptor-wrap-up.html

[haven]

Ford brought a number of journalists to Moab to drive the 2012 Raptor and test its new limited slip front diff. They drove the Hell's Revenge trail. Article and copyrighted photos here
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/11/2012-ford-f-150-svt-raptor-off-road-trail-test.html