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OldSven
04-05-2006, 04:18 AM
Well I ordered my sliders today from www.trail-gear.com So far from the post I have founf they are a good company with good customer service. I will post up some pics when I get them. Oh, and they have some Tacoma bumpers in the works, that is next on my list:cool:

flyingwil
04-05-2006, 05:08 AM
IMO, you might want to watch out for cutting the pinch welds:

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/nerf-cutout-225.jpg


I am assuming you ordered the gusset kit. If not you may also want to add some mounting plates and gussets to prevent stress on the frame similar to these sliders:
http://www.norcalttora.com/~jemartin/Pictures/JD/Sliders/IMG_0030.JPG

http://www.norcalttora.com/~jemartin/Pictures/JD/Sliders/IMG_0001_1.JPG


Just remember once welded on you can't redo it.

erin
04-05-2006, 12:40 PM
Very nice, those seem to be the best value on the market right now, very cheap compared to some. Good luck on the install and post some pics when their on. Oh yeah, paint everything but the legs first, unlike what the directions say, it is much easier.

OldSven
04-05-2006, 02:06 PM
They don't come with any guessets that I know of but when I talked to TG they said to do like the second pic and weld a triangle gusset on the top of the slider leg. But knowing me I will add some other ideas to make them alot stronger. That is a good idea on painting them, I don't really feel like masking off the truck. I'm not going to mess with the pinch weld, another 1" or so lower works for me.

OldSven
04-07-2006, 01:19 AM
Well they are here. These are the cleanest sliders I've seen, and the welds are awsome. The tube used is a nice size diameter. The guesset kit is $50 so I decided to just make my own. They will go on the truck probably next weekend so be ready for some pics:coffee:

OldSven
04-09-2006, 11:17 PM
Here are some pics of them on jack stands. Any words of wisdom on what angle, and how far out to stick them? I was thinking around 25degree cant, and tuck them in some more.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4090017.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4090019.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4090015.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4090016.jpg

brittan
04-10-2006, 03:14 AM
I welded those same sliders on for a guy named Steve yesterday. I agree you they do a good job of putting them together. We did gusset them with triangle pieces. They seemed a little short...what do you think?
Looks good. Abuse...I mean enjoy them.

OldSven
04-10-2006, 04:18 AM
Short in length? They are not bad. I am use to seeing sliders that are 1 1/4" pipe so these look big, like they should go on something with 37's. What did you do as far as how far out they stuck? I was thinking of mounting them with the straight bar right under the pinch weld and angling them up a little.

BajaTaco
04-11-2006, 09:28 PM
Very nice looking sliders. Angling the outer bar up a little higher will help improve clearance along the outboard edge of the path of the tires. This means the edges of your tires have a better chance to be a little closer to the ground (less articulation required) while the sliders are sliding over stuff - every little bit helps. I wouldn't move the outer tubes too far inboard. You will be glad for the little bit of extra clearance to the sheetmetal when you are tilted into the rocks at an angle and using the sliders to pivot the truck.

edgear
04-11-2006, 10:07 PM
I definitely angled mine up -- as to not lose out on any ground clearance, and to maximize protection of the body panels & doors. When deciding on what style to make, I liked the idea of a "kick-out" towards the rear:

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1675&stc=1&d=1144793036
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1676&stc=1&d=1144793042


However, when you have the "kick-out," you have to watch out for the "kick-back":

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1677&stc=1&d=1144793050
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1678&stc=1&d=1144793059


This is where I discovered the design flaw of these siders -- they do not go far enough back. I now know the importance of having the rock sliders go all the way from the front fender flares to the rear fender flares.

In the future, I'd like to either extend these sliders back another 4 inches, or start all over with a new design. So far that has been the only body damage received, and the sliders have protected me on many an occasion!

OldSven
04-12-2006, 12:37 AM
It looks like thery are going on the truck Friday night. I didn't have time this week to get any steel, so I order the gussest kit from Trail-Gear. Yahh, I'm kind of lazy this week so I forked out the cash.

seth_js
04-14-2006, 10:01 PM
On the TG's (and All-Pro's), I would suggest cutting the middle leg, moving it down a little bit, and adding a fourth leg. Or, adding two more legs in between the current 3. I just don't think 3 is enough support, but others will probably tell you different. Also, make your gussets wrap around the bottom of the frame.

I have four 2x2x.120 square legs on mine, and they still bent up slightly after sitting on them a couple times.

-Seth

Oh, and I would have forked out the cash for the gusset kit too. :p

brittan
04-15-2006, 03:32 AM
Short in length? They are not bad. I am use to seeing sliders that are 1 1/4" pipe so these look big, like they should go on something with 37's. What did you do as far as how far out they stuck? I was thinking of mounting them with the straight bar right under the pinch weld and angling them up a little.

That is exactly what we did...directly under the pinch weld. We didn't cut out the pinch weld as the instructions suggested. If you have the time and tools I suggest welding the sliders to a 1/4" plate and then attaching the plate to the frame with u bolts. Slee does his sliders that way on the LC's and I like it. I did a custom setup and I think Slee's way is easier.
If you just weld them on make sure they are gusseted. It was hard to get the welding gun between the post connecting the sliders to the frame and the body of the truck. Not a lot of room to work makes for bad welds.
We put two pieces of 1.5" OD under the bent outside tube to give them an angle. If you look at the link below you will find that my sliders are angled too...
The set we installed last week had 4 posts connecting the sliders to the frame...not three.
I provided the gussets for the set we installed last week. I had them laying around. They were 4"X4" cut diagonally to form a triangle. The metal shop I go to sells them for $.50-1.00 per piece. I am sure you can find them or make them.
Here is my set. You can see how they were gusseted...
http://homepage.mac.com/brittansmith/PhotoAlbum9.html
Here is a pic of the work we did last week.
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4075

OldSven
04-15-2006, 01:27 PM
Well they are still in the garage:( I have some side work to do Saturday and Sunday. But hey mo-money right, just means mo-toys!!! The sliders I have do have the four legs on them because they are the longer ones for the XtraCab's. The picture on the TG site is for a standard cab or 4Runner. The guesset kit they sent me is the same as their site. It is a piece of angle and also the triangle guesset. The only thing I have noticed is that these sliders are wider than most so now to figure out what rims to plunk those 255's out past them? Otherwise I will feel like the go-karts at the fun center:shakin:

Boston Mangler
04-15-2006, 01:36 PM
Nice Sliders!

Here is a slick little adapter that i got that allows you to use a hi-lift with tube sliders

http://www.wabfab.org/products/recovery/sa2.htm

OldSven
04-15-2006, 09:15 PM
I am pretty excited to have a lift point. Now I just need the Hi-Lift:D

Scenic WonderRunner
04-16-2006, 09:22 PM
I ran across these sliders with built in "pucker factor".....!:D


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/ecchamberlin/3wheelmarc.jpg


Quicktime Video (http://www.protrux.net/videos/wheelstand.mov) .....so worth the wait! I was laughing so hard it brought me to tears!:jump:

OldSven
04-17-2006, 02:32 AM
Nice video!!! So are those Trail-Gear sliders? I think I'm finally going to put my order in for a set of Wheeler's Black Steelies tonight. That will fix the offset question.

OldSven
04-20-2006, 12:21 AM
I just picked up some Trail-Gear wheel spacers too. Decided to put some money towards a canopy for camping season. Well if all goes well they should be on with the sliders Saturday morning:jump: But we all know how that goes. If not I'm heading to the dunes in Eastern WA for a little fun in the sand with the Tacoma.

OldSven
04-23-2006, 04:51 AM
Here they are:D I will need to get some better pics in the light tomorrow. They turned out real nice, great angle, and built to last. They took about 6 hours to install, and they aren't the lightest things to move around either. The angle that wraps around the frame we welded in segments, which is kind of nice because just in the off chance that they need to come off I won't have to rip the frame apart to do it. They do stick out a bit, but that just means that much more protection. So there it is, let's hear the comments.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p4220005.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4220004.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p4220006.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p4220008.jpg

Willman
04-23-2006, 05:07 AM
Looks good!!! Nice angle!!!.....Can't wait for the other pics!!!!! Make sure to take before and after pics of the wheel spacers!!!!

OldSven
04-24-2006, 03:23 AM
Well they are taking some getting used to. I have to step alittle bit higher to get over them, but well worth it. The spacers will be here tomorrow and my Optima 34R will be here Friday. So I will be taking it out for a run this weekend, I've got the itch.

OldSven
05-01-2006, 12:08 AM
Here are the day pics. I also took some of what the 1 1/2" spacers do to the 255's.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p4300007.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p4300006.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p4300008.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4300012.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/P4300013.jpg

OldSven
05-07-2006, 05:56 AM
Some new pics. I also set the truck up on one of the sliders and no bending problems what so ever, the only thing I noticed is that they will hi-center the truck if the oppertunity comes along:smilies27
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p5060006.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/OldSven/p5060007.jpg

jester_motorsports
05-09-2006, 04:11 AM
Did you just drive out of a washing machine full of suds or something? What are all of the suds under your front end??? :D

Josh

datrupr
05-09-2006, 04:40 AM
Josh, I think that is ice or slush or something along those lines, however, being from Phoenix I am not really familiar with that stuff.:hehe: We do not get a whole lot of snow down here.

OldSven
05-09-2006, 05:11 AM
Yahh, it's snow. There is still some left up on the pass. It is that real hard pack stuff so trying to drive through it doesn't exactly work so well:smilies27

flyingwil
05-10-2006, 09:13 PM
Did you just drive out of a washing machine full of suds or something? What are all of the suds under your front end??? :D

Josh
:hehe: Thats almost as funny as Aaron's covers back in the day!

datrupr
05-10-2006, 09:53 PM
:hehe: Thats almost as funny as Aaron's covers back in the day!


Are you talking about my spare tire covers?:jump:
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