Iveco Daily 4x4

[gjackson]

This looks like a pretty interesting platform. 24 forward gears, 4 reverse, common rail diesel, comes in crew cab etc. I know the platform has been around for a while, but seems like this is a pretty new variant . . .

Anyone know anything about them?

http://www.daily4x4.iveco.com/?lang=en

cheers

[olympiccop2002]

Yes please! I'll take one! :smiley_drive:

A little more info here:

http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11561&highlight=iveco

Pretty cool rigs for sure.

Bjorn

[olympiccop2002]

This is the reply AZCPP received from Iveco...

"Dear Mr. Pfleeger,

We thank you for taking an interest in our company and our products.

With reference to your request we regret that we have no commercial vehicles operations at present in USA market.

Best regards,

Iveco CustomerCenter
ContactUs Service"

Too bad...

Bjorn

[DavidG]

Too bad is right. I really like the look of the double cab.

[Red Zebra]

Too bad is right. I really like the look of the double cab.
I want one too!

[Lemsteraak]

The IVECO 4x4 has been around awhile. Bjorn, how is your German, here is an interesting link from Switzerland

http://home.datacomm.ch/iveco.web/fram_reis.htm

A few years back, I saw one of these IVECO 4x4 Dailys set up as a camper for a round the world journey, it was very impressive

IVECO is noted for their CRD diesels. They have just opened up shop here in the US but will only sell you a diesel engine. These engines are plug and play, come with the computer and all, just put them in your piece of equipment and off you go.

I have a SUV that is IVECO based. In Italy, Rayton Fissore, had IVECO shorten a 4x4 Daily chassis, and put on a body penned by Tom Tjaarda, same guy that did the Pantera and many Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Sounds like a winning combination? Well .... no, they changed it for America. The CRD diesel, out, and replaced with a Ford small block, 5 speed - gone, replaced with an automatic transmission. Best of all, they marketed as an upscale SUV, rode like a truck, heavy, underpowered, and best of all Italian electrics, and they named it a Laforza (cringe). It is rather entertaining to drive, some of the Italian charm lingers.

I agree, it would be nice to have IVECO back again.

[Lemsteraak]

Oh, here is what the 4x4 Daily looked like, but it had a winch in front

[Michele]

Do you want me to stop by the first Iveco dealer I come across and get some brochures for you guys?
:)

[PirateJohn]

Here's what you need. It's a Canadian LSVW lightweight truck. Iveco made them and Western Star IIRC imported them for the Canadian military. It's not a Daily, as such, but that's what I thought it was when I first saw one on maneuvers here in Floriduh.

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/Images/2_0/14.jpg

[4Rescue]

OK, I'm in, those look awsome, all of them.

Cheers

Dave

[762X39]

The Canadian Armed Forces has a bunch of the Ivecos but they were manufactured by Western Star and they aren't that great. They are underpowered by north american standards and ours (CF) had lots of issues.Yeah they look nice and once on the surplus market they might be fun but my experience with them (lots of them in my former unit) tells me to just buy another mog.

[Lemsteraak]

John, let me know if you ever see any of these surplus. They look to be an IVECO WM90. These use the same basic chassis as my truck. I would love to have the engine mounts and parts to swap over a diesel.

This is the only place I've seen them surplus but it is in Italy

http://www.truck4x4.it/content/catalogo/catalogo.asp?PAG=6&IDModello=2&lang=IT



Rich @ AutoHome
www.autohomeus.com

[Lemsteraak]

Maybe I spoke too soon, appears that IVECO may be coming to the US. Then again, they have been talking about bringing Alfa back for years.

http://beyondcars.blogspot.com/2007/07/fiat-bringing-iveco-trucks-stateside.html

Rich @ AutoHome

[PeterM]

And there are three more or less different verhicles mentioned here:

The first (thread starter) is the new one - actual Iveco Daliy cab on an frame derived from the SCAM truck using a Fial Ducato cab, see http://www.scamtrucks.it

The older camper was the "works"-4x4 version of the old Daily.
And the military version is similar, but only a handul of parts are interchangeable with the old civil version.

rgds, Peter

[gjackson]

Here is a pretty cool overland vid of the Iveco trucks in action:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gII20pKERis&feature=related

cheers

[egn]

There are now several new expedition vehicles based on the Daily 4x4:
http://www.allradwohnmobile.de/Allradwohnmobile/Iveco%20Daily%204x4%20argalibasecamp.htm
http://privat.albicker.org/iveco-womo/index.html
http://www.bimobil.com/deutsch/expedition_ex345/expeditionsfahrzeug.htm
http://www.langerundbock.com/custom/user/datasheet.php?typ=20&form=14

[discotdi]

the Daily 4x4 looks like it would be a great platform for overland travels as well as a good work truck platform. too bad the USA govt won't allow it into the country. I would buy one for sure.

[iveco4x4]

There is a yahoo group for the discussion of all things daily 4x4.

don't think any of our members have a new series one though, its split between the older civi 40-10w and the wm's, the group requires authorisation to join asthe old group was spammed out of existance

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ivecodaily4x4/

The massif has very little to do with the defender apart from similar lines (which in reality it shares with all lwb landrovers since the 50's)

its actually closer to a series vehicle with leaf springs (parabolic) and an iveco engine,its made by santanain spain and badged for iveco. the dash looks like a suzuki dash as they used to build them under license
rich

[mike_monster03]

Greetz from Germany!

If you interested in further Iveco discussion you might check out the german 4x4 group --> *click* (http://www.viermalvier.de/ubb_portal/ubbthreads.php/forums/17/1/IVECO_BREMACH_und_SCAM)

btw great forum - interesting to read what you guys discuss on the other side of the ocean. Similar problems anyway (choice of chassis, GVW class and so) on..

Mike :roost:

[unimogfever]

http://www.unimogfever.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21

[iveco4x4]

interesting chinese trucks - that looks like the old series daily cab (released 1991 i think) but with coil rear suspension and big tyres, oh and lots of airtanks

[w squared]

Here's what you need. It's a Canadian LSVW lightweight truck. Iveco made them and Western Star IIRC imported them for the Canadian military. It's not a Daily, as such, but that's what I thought it was when I first saw one on maneuvers here in Floriduh.

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/Images/2_0/14.jpg

I had just joined the Canadian Forces when the LSVW entered the inventory. The first time I saw one, I thought it looked amazing...very cool. Boy, was I wrong.

They have gained fame as the most vilified vehicle in the CF inventory. Even more hated than the Bombardier version of the VW Iltis. The only thing worse than their performance is their reliability.

When the competition happened for the vehicle to replace the 5/4 ton trucks that were previously used in this role, the LSVW was the "pork barrel" contender. The Western Star factory was in Kelowna, BC...a riding held by the ruling governement, and the associate minister for Defense (overseeing the project) was also from a riding in BC.

The Iveco/Western Star did poorly in an initial comparison in Petawawa...so the requirements for the competition were re-written to allow the LSVW to win, and a second round of testing was scheduled in Nevada. But when the actual second set of trials happened, the Western Star vehicle failed again.

Here's a quick quote describing the opinion of those who have ended up driving it:

The LSVW is unpopular. It has been criticized for poor handling, top-heaviness, unreliable brakes and transmission, and awkward engine access amongst other things. However, much of the difficulty resulted from the original specifications.

The Department emphasized fuel efficiency and low purchase price when they
were looking for a new light support truck. That is what it got – a vehicle with top speeds of 25 km/h off-road and only 90km/h on pavement.
Neither the small engine (only 115 hp despite turbo-charging) nor the weak
automatic transmission is adequate for tough military operational support duties. The transmission occasionally pops out of gear under stress. Fading breaks and rust have shown up far too early in the lives of these vehicles.
In the end the Canadian Forces got what they paid for

One other item that isn't mentioned above...any time the brakes are applied, you can expect to hear a god-awful squealing.

So the federal government directed the CF to buy it anyways. Pork Barrel procurement at it's finest.