LED Work-lamp group buy

[Martyn]

AT is offering this LED Work Lamp as an Expedition Portal Group Buy.
The lamp is $75.00 plus shipping.
We will need a minimum of 12 orders to make this work.

If you are interested in purchasing this product please e mail us your name and shipping details and we will send you an order form. E Mail: info@adventuretrailers.com

FEATURES:
Ultra-white brilliance in an even, round pattern with significant side light.
Cutting-edge LED technology in a sealed-beam lamp
Built to stand up against punishing conditions
10 super-high-output white LED’s
High Vibration resistance
Hard-wired for durability
100,000-hour diode life
Low amp draw (tested at 3.0 watts)


The ruggedness of an LED with the lighting power of a halogen lamp.

[Martyn]

Few more pictures

[Redline]

Approx. Dimensions?

[elcoyote]

4.75" Diameter (incl housing)
2.75" Deep (incl housing)
1/4" x 20 x 1 1/4" stud mount
Weight: 1 lb
Overall height when mounted: 6" (from bottom of base to top of housing)

[theexile]

Approx. Dimensions?

Went by earlier to visit Scott and Mario down at the shop. Checked the light out in person.
Its about 4.5 inchs in diameter and 3 inchs deep. The light output is very impressive for the very little power it demands. It weighs very little also.


Edit( Mario beat me to it )

[StumpXJ]

put me down for one please. Email on its way.

~James

[Redline]

Is there any question that this light is at least as good as other common solutions as a "back-up" light on the back of a 4x4? One that will allow the driver to see where they are going through tinted glass?

[spressomon]

M&M,

I bought one of the 84 LED 12V lights (http://autolumination.com/worklights.html) and had not thought about the light dispersion angle of LEDS until after I received it: Yes it is very bright; but it has a fairly narrow angle of dispersion compared to my ARB 12V trouble light and not something that would work all that well, for instance, as a camp light.

So...long way to get to my question :sombrero: what is the light dispersion angle for your lamp? Have you tested it to determine if it is "flood", "spot", etc. style?

[Martyn]

M&M,

I bought one of the 84 LED 12V lights (http://autolumination.com/worklights.html) and had not thought about the light dispersion angle of LEDS until after I received it: Yes it is very bright; but it has a fairly narrow angle of dispersion compared to my ARB 12V trouble light and not something that would work all that well, for instance, as a camp light.

So...long way to get to my question :sombrero: what is the light dispersion angle for your lamp? Have you tested it to determine if it is "flood", "spot", etc. style?

Dan

The light has what they call a "round pattern with significant side light". The lens uses a Fresnel lens to produce a trapezoidal pattern, so this is not a narrow spot light. The great thing about LED's is that each diode can be implanted at different angles, this can cast the light in different custom patterns.

Mario has been doing the testing, but he's at the NATM show in Las Vegas today. He should be able to "shed more light" on the subject when he gets back tomorrow, or I’ll ask him today if he calls.

[adventureduo]

What brand is it? I remember him talking to HELLA about their LED dome light.

[Martyn]

What brand is it? I remember him talking to HELLA about their LED dome light.

The light is made by a reputable US manufacturer, not Hella. I hope you understand that we have invested significant time researching LED lamps before finally selecting this brand. LED work lamps are new to the market so it wasn't an easy task.

We are also going to buy these lights by the case to get a good price on them, I will be listing them at $95.00 on our web site today.

So after investing all this time, effort, and money in the project please forgive me for not giving you the manufacturers name. It's unfortunate but some people are willing to let us do all the research and invest our money in a product, and even pick our brains on how to install an item, only to scour the web and buy the product for a few dollars less somewhere else.

I'm not implying that you would do this at all. It's just that it's LED work lights are new, choosing the right one is difficult, and it's my money I'm shelling out on this bet that we have chosen a winner.

I'm sure that at this years SEMA show we will be falling over all the LED work lights that have copied this product, but right now as far as we are concerned this is the best one on the market.

[DaveM]

I'm on the fence. I really like the idea of LED for low power consumption. The price is high, though fair I'm sure. What I'm most concerned with is the mount, it looks like it will be adjustable but can it be moved around as needed without having to retighten the top nut every time you re orient it?

I would love a ball joint with a constant level of friction so you can aim it without loosening the connection.

Edited to add: Also, is there a switch on the lamp so it can be operated from outside the cab?

[Redline]

I want a 'work' light too, but my primary interest is in a reverse light for the car. I could have a higher energy consuming light on the car for backing but maybe this LED would be a very good camp lantern as well when mounted on the 4Runner and the Chaser? Particularly if the car is driven almost every day.

I’ll know what brand the light is after I buy one from AT.

[Martyn]

Some answers to your questions.

Mario describes this lamp as "bright", brighter than a halogen. I spoke with the manufacturer and the sales people don't have a stock answer on quantitatively how bright it is. it's such a new product they need to talk to engineering to get the test data. I'll post when I have it.

This is not a spot light, it's pattern is similar to the Matador. If it was mounted at 6ft high and angled down at 20 degrees it would have a concentration of light 10 feet away and light up an area 5 feet in every direction.

The light projects well and can easily light up a wall 60 feet away.

As far as being able to rotate the light, if you were to change out the hardware on the base stud and horizontal adjustment then it would be easy to move. Replace the tightening nut with a flat washer, split washer, and nylock. The nylock would tighten the fixture down to a point where it was stable, the split washer would provide the tension to hold everything securely but allow rotation, and the flat washer would give a smooth surface to rotate on.

[DaveM]

all right I'm in, I just emailed for the order form. thanks for answering my questions.

PS, don't tell my wife I'm spending $75 on a light! ;) :D

On a side note, anybody here now where I can get a nice low profile waterproof switch to use in the bed with the light?

[Andrew Walcker]

I'm in for 2, thanks for putting this together Martyn!

[Martyn]

I'm in for 2, thanks for putting this together Martyn!

No problem Andrew, you'll be happy with the lamp.

[Andrew Walcker]

Have you managed to work the anti-moth attraction technology into the beam pattern?




:sombrero:

[StumpXJ]

when do we get the order form? or are you waiting for 12 of us? Just not sure if my email went through.

Thanks, James

[Martyn]

Have you managed to work the anti-moth attraction technology into the beam pattern?




:sombrero:

Andrew

Already done.:shakin:

What is interesting is that insects are not attracted to LED light. I think it has something to do with the wave length. Have you noticed you don't get insect activity around the LED running lights on your Horizon?

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

I'm in for at least one. I'll e-mail you tonight.
j-

[Martyn]

when do we get the order form? or are you waiting for 12 of us? Just not sure if my email went through.

Thanks, James

James

I got your e mail. I'll work on the order forms today and send them out.

I'm cleaning the EGR valve on my car right now, parts cleaner and computers don't mix very well. As soon as I'm done I'll take care of business.

[Andrew Walcker]

Andrew

Already done.:shakin:

What is interesting is that insects are not attracted to LED light. I think it has something to do with the wave length. Have you noticed you don't get insect activity around the LED running lights on your Horizon?

Just trying to set you up to take the glory of this phenomena:) I'd never consider a regular light due to the unwelcomed insects.

[DaveM]

Just trying to set you up to take the glory of this phenomena:) I'd never consider a regular light due to the unwelcomed insects.

this is an attractive bonus that I hadn't considered, very cool.

[oldcj5guy]

info sent

[Martyn]

Just trying to set you up to take the glory of this phenomena:) I'd never consider a regular light due to the unwelcomed insects.

Finally we have found a suitable position for you with the company that will compliment all your skills "AT honorary Shill" or should that be "AT honoree Shill" :xxrotflma

[StumpXJ]

Thanks Martyn, ~ James

[elcoyote]

For what it's worth, I am mounting two on the rear of my MJ as reverse lights. Even though I had upgraded the factory bulbs to 15W replacements, I like illumination of this LED better.


I want a 'work' light too, but my primary interest is in a reverse light for the car. I could have a higher energy consuming light on the car for backing but maybe this LED would be a very good camp lantern as well when mounted on the 4Runner and the Chaser? Particularly if the car is driven almost every day.

I’ll know what brand the light is after I buy one from AT.

[Gear]

Sounds interesting. M&M could you please give us a run down of the potential uses that you see fit for this light. I have read the post and see several applications but I also know that you guys must have been attracted to this light for some specific reason other than power consumption.

Thanks

[Martyn]

For what it's worth, I am mounting two on the rear of my MJ as reverse lights. Even though I had upgraded the factory bulbs to 15W replacements, I like illumination of this LED better.

OK, I'll write you up for two. I'll even give you the $75.00 special price.

Where do I send the bill?

:jumping:

[Beowulf]

Any night shots of this illuminating an area?

[Martyn]

Sounds interesting. M&M could you please give us a run down of the potential uses that you see fit for this light. I have read the post and see several applications but I also know that you guys must have been attracted to this light for some specific reason other than power consumption.

Thanks

Well there has always been a need for a bright light when setting up camp or reversing a trailer or vehicle.

All the lights available up to this point has some draw backs.

Power consumption was a big issue, do I keep the vehicle running to power the lamp, or how long can I run the lamp before it drains my battery. So the 3 watt draw on the LED solves that problem.

The 55 watt lamps needed special attention when wiring them, either in the form of heavier gauge wiring, or relays. For the LED's we recommend a fuse but the relay would depend on your unique situation.

The light spread on this lamp gives a good field of light to work in so it's ideal for camp set up or reversing.

The LED lamp does not have a built in switch like the Matador so it's possible for it to function as a reverse light and a work light by wiring it up a such.

The 7 pin socket on most vehicles is wired for reverse, and our trailers are wired for reverse up to the junction box on the nose. Pulling the additional wiring isn’t a huge job so long as you have an electricians snake.

The other half of the M&M duo may have other reasons for liking the set up.

[calamaridog]

Have you managed to work the anti-moth attraction technology into the beam pattern?

:sombrero:

It's funny you should mention that. My LED lantern barely attracts any bugs at all, compared to the halogen ones, it's like 10% as many bugs:campfire:

[Martyn]

Any night shots of this illuminating an area?

We can post shots once we take them, won't be until Sunday at the earliest.

[spressomon]

Andrew

Already done.:shakin:

What is interesting is that insects are not attracted to LED light. I think it has something to do with the wave length. Have you noticed you don't get insect activity around the LED running lights on your Horizon?


That's been my experience with the LED head lights...no bug attraction to speak of.

[calamaridog]

I'm very interested but I'd love to see the night pics if possible.

Martyn, would these work as driving lights or not throw far enough?

[Martyn]

Here is some more information on the lamp from the manufacturer. It’s quite specific in that these are ridged answers from an engineer. So if it doesn’t exactly fit into a classification it doesn't get put in one.

They classify it as a Utility light. (Maybe a tractor light?)

It doesn’t meet any standards as far as classification into spot, flood or trapezoidal. (But later they state "it produces a round pattern")

The lamp produces a round 160 degree light pattern with most of the light directed in the inner 40 degrees around the center of the lens

The numbers are as follows:
Wattage: 5
Amp draw: 0.39
Output Lumens: 150
Lumens/watt: 30
Average life Hours; 50,000 (compares to 100-300 for halogens).

On the light output the quality of the light is very high. So it's easier to see your surrounds in the dark. It's not a measurable thing so the manufacturer will not have quantified it. But what we were seeing was a high quality white light that it was easy to see in. This is contrasted against the low quality of the Halogen light. Saying that I know it's subjective.

Here is the comparison of light output from halogen lights.
35 watt halogen; 284-301 +/- lumens
55 watt halogen; 410 +/- lumens

[Martyn]

I'm very interested but I'd love to see the night pics if possible.

Martyn, would these work as driving lights or not throw far enough?

I don't have an answer for that. I think we will have to wait for Mario to mount some up and take pictures.

The manufacturer was very clear that these are not DOT approved lights in any shape or form.

[dbregman]

email sent

[Colorado Ron]

Hmmm. Im looking for a light setup that I can mount under the hood. Id like to be able to flip one switch and light up the whole engine bay. Think these would work good for that? Seems like they would.

[Redline]

It's worth a lot and that is how I intend to use them too.


For what it's worth, I am mounting two on the rear of my MJ as reverse lights. Even though I had upgraded the factory bulbs to 15W replacements, I like illumination of this LED better.

[Redline]

Martyn:

Put me down for two.

I was originally thinking of reverse & camp light, but the engine bay idea sounds interesting too.

Redline

[Martyn]

Hmmm. Im looking for a light setup that I can mount under the hood. Id like to be able to flip one switch and light up the whole engine bay. Think these would work good for that? Seems like they would.

Ron

I would imagine they would work. Once you have mounted one in place you'd be able to tell us. :sombrero:

[telwyn]

Please put me down for 2 also. Email sent. Thanks!

[archtimb]

This is great, and kudos to Martyn & Mario for finding a nice LED lite. I have been looking for one since 2004 when I put our Cruiser back together. I could not believe that one has not been available till now.

I ended up going with a rectangular Hella lamp. Battery draw is manageable with a dual setup. It is fantastic as a backup light which, as it turns out, is almost all we use it for. It would probably rock as a work light for repairs but I do not know as Cruisers never break!
:)
That said, I ran heavy wire and operate it off a relay. Tied into the backup circuit, also with manual switches at the dash and rear quarter. I anticipated using it as a camp light but it turns out to be just too bright!

I still want to go to a LED one of these days but I may wait a little longer to see if anyone starts making a hi/low one. Be sweet to be able to use only a couple of the LED's for camp light. The LED could be installed without current draw concerns. The full work light output would be nice for repairs and backup, but from my experience you may find the full output too much for camp light.

Mitch

[Whoknows]

Hi Martyn,

Put me down for one.

[Martyn]

Hi Martyn,

Put me down for one.

Send me an e mail with your name, quantity of lights, and shipping details. I'll send you back an order form. info@adventuretrailers.com

[robert j. yates]

For what it's worth, I am mounting two on the rear of my MJ as reverse lights. Even though I had upgraded the factory bulbs to 15W replacements, I like illumination of this LED better.

Mario...can I tie this into the license plate pigtale on my Horizon? I need a lamp on the back of my trailer and this seems to be about perfect.

[adventureduo]

Mario...can I tie this into the license plate pigtale on my Horizon? I need a lamp on the back of my trailer and this seems to be about perfect.

That should be fine because it doesn't draw much being LED, but you'll have to turn on your head lights or parking lights to get the light to come on unless you run a inline switch.

[robert j. yates]

Yah Dave....was thinking of the switch.

[tdesanto]

Martyn,

Put me down for 2.

Email sent.

Thanks for the great find!

TD

[Martyn]

Pulling extra wires is very easy on the Horizon.
Pull the rear tail light out, run an electrician snake from the grommet in the side of the tongue, where the wires enter the chassis. Push it through until it comes out the back. Attach the wire, pull it back through the chassis until it comes out the front. Wire it to the junction box. Push the wire up from the chassis into the load box. Replace tail light.

20 mins max

[DaveM]

Martyn, am I right in guessing you have the 12 minimum orders by now? Just checking to see if I can go ahead and order.

dave

[Martyn]

Martyn, am I right in guessing you have the 12 minimum orders by now? Just checking to see if I can go ahead and order.

dave

Dave

Yes the minimum number has been reached.

We are ordering two cases of the lights, and are waiting for a delivery date from the manufacturer.

As soon as we know they are on the way I will contact all the people who have placed orders so they can fax or call their orders in. Hopefully by doing it that way there will be minimum time between billing you and receiving the lamp.

[robert j. yates]

Pulling extra wires is very easy on the Horizon.
Pull the rear tail light out, run an electrician snake from the grommet in the side of the tongue, where the wires enter the chassis. Push it through until it comes out the back. Attach the wire, pull it back through the chassis until it comes out the front. Wire it to the junction box. Push the wire up from the chassis into the load box. Replace tail light.

20 mins max

Cool....put me down for 1 light Martyn. Thanx.

[DaveM]

Dave

Yes the minimum number has been reached.

We are ordering two cases of the lights, and are waiting for a delivery date from the manufacturer.

As soon as we know they are on the way I will contact all the people who have placed orders so they can fax or call their orders in. Hopefully by doing it that way there will be minimum time between billing you and receiving the lamp.

Sounds good, I'll just wait to hear from you then.

thanks

[Martyn]

Cool....put me down for 1 light Martyn. Thanx.

Order form e-mailed.

[softboyled]

I'll take two if this deal is still open.

Thanks,
Greg

[Martyn]

We are expecting delivery of the lamps 3/19

As soon as I know they are on the way to us I'll e mail everyone who has pre-ordered and ask you to submit your payment details.

Thanks

[Martyn]

Got a call from the manufacturer today, the lights are on their way to us.

I've got a full schedule on the road tomorrow but I'll get e mail reminders out to everyone who ordered by the late afternoon.

If you have completed your order form and want to fax it in go ahead. Anyone who needs to call in their credit card details please wait until Thursday so I'm not trying to drive and write at the same time.

[dbregman]

Just recieved my lamps today!

Thanks Martin!

:arabia:

[tdesanto]

Just recieved my lamps today!

Thanks Martin!

:arabia:

Well, tell us what you think; at least build quality if you don't have them wired up already :)

Mine show up tomorrow according to UPS. Looking forward to it.

[dbregman]

Looks good - I connected one to a 12v power supply I have here in the office. Looks really bright.

There seems to be some airspace behind the lamp under the rubber cover, so it can be squished a bit. The lens cover seems strong.

When I got the box I was worried, since it sounded like broken bits inside. But alas it was just the mounting hardware.

[dbregman]

I love the lamp - HATE the mount. I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get a mount similar to the Land Rover lamp mount.

http://www.britishpacific.com/BPSite/landroverparts/offrd_pictures/worklite.jpg

It is a ball and joint that allows for movement, but also stays in place.

Thanks in advance.

[DaveM]

I love the lamp - HATE the mount. I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get a mount similar to the Land Rover lamp mount.

http://www.britishpacific.com/BPSite/landroverparts/offrd_pictures/worklite.jpg

It is a ball and joint that allows for movement, but also stays in place.

Thanks in advance.

Ditto on the mount. I made mine work by using nylock nuts with nylon and steel washers to allow for a fixed amount of tension on the bolts and smooth movement. But a ball and socket connection would be better.