Setting up a Wrangler Unlimited for expedition??

[TeriAnn]

It appears that I'm going to be involved in setting up one or more of the new Wrangler unlimiteds for long range North American expedition type travel. What I know about Jeeps might fill a paragraph so I'm looking for advice.


In your collective opinions what are the best ways to set up a Wrangler Unlimited for long range travel?
What's the best off the shelf gear to equip one for this role?
What is likely to break on the vehicle?
What needs beefing up for reliability or just getting from here to there fully loaded for a long trip.


Your helpful suggestions are much appreciated. Thanks!!

[preacherman]

One of the things I hate about jeep's is that there are sooooo many different factory configurations. For instance my 99 TJ has a four banger with a 5 speed and dana 35 and Dana 30 axles. Most models are offered with 3 different transmissions (2 different 5 speeds, one auto and a 6 speed in 2006 and up) two engines (a 2.5 four cylinder or a straight 6) and three possible axle configurations (a Dana 35 and Dana 30, a Dana 30 and Dana 44, or all Dana 44). Of course where the weak point is depends on what set up you have.

Usually the front axle shafts are weak when lifted or locked(unless you have the Dana 44 up front) and the rear Dana 35 can become weak if you go with a locker and 33's or bigger. (but this really depends on driving style). And of course there are about a billion lift options which each have + and - and each bring up new problems. For example a 2 inch lift only requires new shocks and you can run 31's while a 4+ inch lift will let you run 33's but you will need new shocks, track bar, drop pitman arm and depending on which lift (and who you listen to) possible a transfer case drop or a slip yoke eliminator. It really depends on what you have to work with and what you plan on doing. Also re-gearing is a necessity for the 2.5 with almost any bigger tire while a 5 speed with the straight 6 and 33's will be ok without a re gear.

A few good questions to ask, which will answer your questions.
1. What year, and what factory options (axles, engine, transmission)
2. Will there be suspension mods and if so how high?
3. What size tire's will be run?

Hope that helps.

[grahamfitter]

Teri Ann,

Welcome to the other side of the pond. :)

If the intention is to live in the vehicle this model is available right off the shelf...

http://www.earthroamer.com/galleries/xv-jp_first_photos/img_0321_letter%20size_std.jpg

It would look better with a white roof and white upper body panels.

Cheers,
Graham

[TeriAnn]

A few good questions to ask, which will answer your questions.
1. What year, and what factory options (axles, engine, transmission)
2. Will there be suspension mods and if so how high?
3. What size tire's will be run?


Figure the new long wheel base Wrangler unlimited. They come with Dana 44's on the rear & ?? on the front rear a petrol ... sorry gas 3.8L V6 engine, six speed manual gearbox
3.21 or 4.1:1 R&P. Looks like P255/70R18 or LT255/75R17 tyres.

I'm asking among other things what suspension modes would work.


Thanks

[OS-Aussie]

Check the AEV web site for some very good ideas.

The JK's have a few differences over the TJ including bigger axles, however the electronic sway bar disconnect appears to be a weak point as show at camp Jeep.

I think that the Rubicon version is still a very good option even for the extra cost. Alloy axles, 3.5" lift, and maybe 4.88 gears will allow 35/37's and work well just about anywhere you may want to go. 37's look big on a TJ but look sort of natural on a 4 door JK.

However if you are truly meaning a LJ rather than 4 door JK, the story changes.
Few places will require more than 35's and 4.56 gears which means about 4.5 of lift. The ride for long arms are better. So it also depends on what model of LJ as they have different differentials. A Rubicon will have dana 44, which can be upgraded with alloy axles. This helps in the front as the factory axles in the 44's have dana 35 outers. Another weak point in the Rubicon is the rear spider gears which have a habit of breaking, just replace with a front center rather that the rear LSD locker. If it is not a Rubicon going 35's may over cook the smaller Dana's depending on the funding this may suggest that 33's may be the best selection.

The old rule is the expected trails select the tire size, which in turn sets everything else. (lift to clear tires, axles and gears to suit tires .....)

Then from the other side of the fence are bigger tires needed........ The basic Jeep package is mostly fairly tough, you may just need to do a budget boost lift of a couple of inches, an oil pan skid, tummy tuck and winch.

[TeriAnn]

The old rule is the expected trails select the tire size, which in turn sets everything else. (lift to clear tires, axles and gears to suit tires .....)

I guess in most cases thats true.

Personally I use 255/85R16 tyres because I can not easily enter my vehicle wearing a straight skirt with tyres taller than 33.3" dia.

So anyway please keep those suggestions coming. What do you need to deck out the new long wheelbase Jeeps.

Thanks!

[1leg]

255/85/16 fit great on the new JK with out a lift.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2387/2138719617_2518132f43.jpg

A 2 inch lift would be nice. I have one but it still needs to be installed.

You don't need a Rubicon. It's cheaper to install Lockers into a X model. If you need them. I haven't needed them yet.

Storage space is the only thing that the jeep lacks.

[OS-Aussie]

So you are thinking a 4 door JK then ???

If so run rent or borrow travel with one and check out what you think it needs for your type of travel.

My Rubicon runs 40's while my Cherokee is stock, but they are for different types of trails.

Where do you expect to travel ??

BTW lockers is not the only difference with a Rubicon, but yes where you go says if you may need lockers

Different trails different needs.......
Clayton - Green Mamba (40's)
http://www.osaussie.com/gallery/Clayton/greenacres023.jpg

Rubicon Trail (33 & 35's, bigger rocks bigger tires)
http://www.osaussie.com/gallery/RubiconTrail/HPIM1126.jpg

Mojave Road (33's)
http://www.osaussie.com/gallery/MojaveRoad/w_FH000019.jpg

Afternoon tea North of Alturas (stock)
http://www.osaussie.com/gallery/Alturas/HPIM0787.jpg

[TeriAnn]

So you are thinking a 4 door JK then ???

If so run rent or borrow travel with one and check out what you think it needs for your type of travel.


Sorry I thought I made it clear, the long wheelbase jeep buildup is not for myself. It is for a client who wants to do long distance traveling, camping along the way. Think more of visiting ghost towns, anasazi ruins, taking pictures, fishing & hunting. That sort of thing Where the vehicle supports the activity rather than is the activity. Figure 2 adults and 2 children for many of the trips.

Think in terms of an activity support vehicle where the vehicle gets you to the activity and not so much in terms of an activity vehicle where getting from point A to point B is the activity.

My client specified a new long wheelbase Wrangler unlimited as the base vehicle. What's available to enhance its role as a long range activity support vehicle for a family who is camping.

As of this month I have owned my Land Rover for 30 years and I'm still happy with it. Again this is for a client and not for myself. For those who haven't seen it, here's my rig:


http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/snapshots/snaps/GRmoab.jpg

http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/LR.images/KaneCreekcamp.JPG

http://http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/LR.images/rearinterior.jpeg

http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/LR.images/GRktichen1t.jpg


Anyway, enough of my rig. What would it take to set up the new long wheelbase Jeeps to SUPPORT long distance travel and to SUPPORT outdoor activities for a family of four camping along the way.

[mightymike]

Anyway, enough of my rig. What would it take to set up the new long wheelbase Jeeps to SUPPORT long distance travel and to SUPPORT outdoor activities for a family of four camping along the way.


As a former owner of a LWB 2-door Jeep and having a family of four, I think the answer to your question is: A trailer!

We are campers, hunters, anglers, etc.....A stock Rubicon, with perhaps a 2" lift, will take your clients most anywhere they would want to go with the goal being the activity when you get there, not rockcrawling. I know the 4-door Jeeps are larger than the one I had, but the room inside is very limited. The maufactured off-road cargo/camping trailers can be pretty pricey. We did very well with a military surplus M416. The added advantage is that you can unhook the trailer when you are not on a trip and enjoy the benefits of not adding a lot of weight to the vehicle itself.

[Uticon]

I have a 2007 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon.
I think its a great start for an expedition vehicle.

Id start with replacing the driveshafts with a U Joint driveshaft.
-The factory design does not let you replace the joints in the field.

The factory skid plates are decent but with the longer wheel base i do tend to scrape my belly more often.

There are a bunch of new aftermarket suppliers getting into the Jeep game just because of the popularity of the JKs.

The stock fuel tank on the new JKs are fairly small, 21 gal.
I can get about 325 miles per tank but there is plenty of room for a larger tank but as of today i dont think anybody out there makes a larger tank.

I have a Teraflex budget boost which gives me another 2" of clearance.
I would stay away from big lifts for expedition travel just because of more things to break or go wrong.

Im sure i can come up with more info but that should give you a good start.
:archaeolo

[Gear]

Hello TeriAnn,
I have the exact vehicle you are discussing for your client. A 2007 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited JK(4 door). Could you please let us know what size tires you are going to put on the JK. This really tells us a lot about what size lift or lack of lift will be needed as well as other things to look at.

Two quick setups.

Stock JK with 33" tires no lift needed. Gear ratio should be OK. I would put a few skid plates on the vehicle to protect the oil pan and front/rear differentials. This Jeep has an evap canister that is particularly vulnerable right next to the rear drive shaft. A large black box. This should be protected or moved to a different location. www.kilbyenterprises.com sells a relocation bracket.

Lifted JK with 35" tires. I would do the above mentioned plus. A good quality suspension lift. I went with Poly Performance Synergy stage III lift kit. (www.polyperformance.com) This kit will address the problems with lifting a JK. The front and rear track bars are a known failure point. Make sure that the lift kit you chose addresses these problems correctly. Most kits are raising the track bar with a tab which creates a fulcrum point. This leads to the bracket snapping off at the stock welds. This would be my biggest concern for your clients. The downside with 35" tires you will most likely want to regear. I went with 5.13(automatic). Also it looks like with this much suspension travel I will need to upgrade the stock driveshafts. Well this leads to a giant snowball effect know as a Jeep(just empty every pocket).

Here is a link to my build thread.

http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6947

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd31b3127cceb64bb5c4c1e100000026108EatWzFu0cO

[Gear]

mightmike wrote "As a former owner of a LWB 2-door Jeep and having a family of four, I think the answer to your question is: A trailer!"

Bingo, we have a winner. This would be great for a family of four. I love my Chaser #15. Oh and here is how it looks with the trailer.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df03b3127cceb47bb177d0f900000026108EatWzFu0cO
The JK has a 2.5" Teraflex budget boost on it in this picture. Those are 35" tires.

[OS-Aussie]

I agree, and think Justin is on the money with mods and trailer as expanded support.

[kcowyo]

Personally I use 255/85R16 tyres because I can not easily enter my vehicle wearing a straight skirt with tyres taller than 33.3" dia.


:xxrotflma


Man, I would love to embed that line in some fellas signature around here!

I'm not sure who yet....:peepwall:..... but somebody who runs tall 'n skinnies...


Ahem, sorry. Please resume your research.

[TheGillz]

Here is my mod wish list:

Starting with '08 JK Unlimited X, has front new generation Dana 30/rear Dana 44 which I hear are quite a bit sturdier than the last version in the TJ for instance.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/thegillz/DSC03688.jpg

MOPAR® Door Sill Kit in Black Plastic

Omix-Ada (Rugged Ridge) Side Step and Armor for 07-08 Wrangler
http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Images/93738/93738-lg.jpg

Omix-Ada Xtream Heavy Duty Rear Bumper System for 07-08 JK
http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Images/93754/93754-lg.jpg
Omix-Ada Tire Carrier Mount for XHD Rear Bumper System
Omix-Ada Xtreme Heavy Duty Front Winch Bumper System for 07-08 Jeep JK
Omix-Ada Tube Mount Bumper for XHD Bumper System
Omix-Ada Standard End for XHD Bumper System
http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Images/93786/93786-lg.jpg

WARN 9.5ti Thermometric Self-Recovery Winch

Old Man Emu Jeep JK Wrangler 2in Lift Kit

Warrior Products Safari Rear Tube Doors for 07-08 Jeep® Wrangler
http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Images/86525/86525-lg.jpg

Wet Okole Seat Covers for Jeep Vehicles

Wild Boar Products Roof Rack for JK Unlimited
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/thegillz/CRS510-3.jpg

Warrior Products Rear corner guards in black diamond plate

BFG 33/10.5/17 M/T's

Expo Trailer w/ RTT

[durango_60]

For the use you are describing I would keep it very simple. I would purchase an X model with the rear locker and swaybar disconnect, put on an OME lift with 255/85 16's(mostly to help the breakover angle), mount a winch, mate it with an Adventure Trailer and call it good.

On the other hand if expense isn't really an issue I'd order an AEV equipped Rubicon.

[robert j. yates]

Whether its lifted or not....get rid of the factory shocks and go aftermarket for more performance, durability and the ability to tune for ride preference.

Focus on recovery gear (winch or straps), recovery points and skidplating vulnerable areas.

Focus on fuel requirements and range and plan accordingly for additional fuel if needed.

Assess storage needs and modify accordingly, ie exterior racks vs. interior boxes.

Above all....keep it simple....modified Jeeps are a PITA. BTDT LOL.

[Weave]

I would go in the direction that durango_60 stated. Spec it with the good factory options, the Rubicon would be great but an X or Sahara with the rear locker and front sway bar disco options would suffice, and keep the lift and tires simple with OME's 2.5" (if a lift is needed). Then equip it with the necessary recovery gear(electric winch, tow hooks) and storage options. The trailer is a great idea.

From the description of the vehicle needs, I really think a stock Rubicon could fill the bill with the addition of an electric winch and storage/trailer add ons. One question I would ask, is the 4:1 ratio of the Rubicon transfer case really needed? If not, you could go with the 2.72:1 case in the X/Sahara with the factory rear locker and front electric disco. If they need the front locker and/or durability of the Rubicon's front Dana 44 axle, you could always swap it in - Mopar is marketing the Rubicon factory axle (Dana 44 w/ electric locker) at a very good price. I personally think most people don't need the 4:1 transfer case of the Rubicon unless they are planning on a lot of low speed rock crawling, etc.

[The Swiss]

Dear TeriAnn,

I love your Dormobil. When I lived in Europe, I had over the years 3 Land Rovers (a SeriesII 109 Ambulance, a 90 TD and a Defender 110), most of my friends either had Series III 109 or Land Cruisers Troopies. Now that I live in the US, I got converted to Jeeps.

As you know from your Dormobil, the European approach to Expedition Vehicles - leave out the Mogs and other big animals that make it on this site on a regular basis - is quite different. Less geared towards extreme off-roading with big lifts, long travel suspensions and fat tires and more towards - well - expedition traveling. Obviously you have a customer to satisfy, but I would say, don't ask too many question and take more the Dormobil-approach to the JK. A JK Unlimited Dormobil would just be a killer...

Just my .02 centimes...

[TeriAnn]

I'm getting some great real life input from you folks with the kind of stuff that you only know from taking these rigs out camping with a family.

I just want to say thanks and keep it coming if you can think of anything else.

[reconbyfire]

Electronics:
I would install a cb, a handheld GPS w/vehicle mount, and frs(handheld radios). I can only presume that they will go hiking so the hand held and frs would be a nice touch. My wife and I have been in locations where the cellphone wouldn't work;yet, the frs did.

Off-road lighting...baja bar.

You may also want to produce a questioniere for the client. List basic add-ons like the aforementioned and see what they 'really' want from you. Unless, they have already stated needs beyond just the vehicle.

Many folks want to buy and drive and there are those that like to do it themselves. The extra add-ons can make a difference for your pocket and the satisfaction of your client

[slooowr6]

I'll throw in my 2cents.
It might be good to ask your client how important is to have a shelter from the elements on his/her family trip. Your Land Rover can provide a shelter for rain, windy and cold. A dry place to stay if weather changes. Jeep with a AT trailer will be great if shelter is not a priority, it'll work. I've found many time sitting in the camper reading a book while it's raining outside very relaxing. :o

[robert j. yates]

I'll throw in my 2cents.
It might be good to ask your client how important is to have a shelter from the elements on his/her family trip. Your Land Rover can provide a shelter for rain, windy and cold. A dry place to stay if weather changes. Jeep with a AT trailer will be great if shelter is not a priority, it'll work. I've found many time sitting in the camper reading a book while it's raining outside very relaxing. :o

Stock Wranglers are not the best vehicles for towing. BTDT and I simply won't recommend it anymore. If a trailer or more space is really needed, best off looking at another vehicle. Yes an Unlimited has alot of room but it still has an underpowered 6 cylinder motor.

IMO...because of that underpowered 6, towing adds complexity to the build equation. Axle gears and tire choice will be even more critical so power and torque are not wasted and if it were me, I'd look into a supercharger or else make sure I was using a light weight trailer With the supercharger, you then have additional fuel use and at that point, where do you stop with the mods?

Because I have been there with modified Jeeps, I like the keep it simple approach to building expedition Jeeps. They are great vehicles and I love mine but its really not well suited to certain things. Tent camping for 2 with it is great....other things begin to push its envelope.

[TheGillz]

Two things:

What is BTDT?

And two is 202hp, 237ft lbs of torque really underpowered for towing a max 2000lb trailer? Many guys on this board are towing AT's without problems.

[TexasTJ]

I have flat towed my Tj behind my 2 door 07 with 4.10 gears. It pulled just fine. (stoping was a little harder:yikes: )

[robert j. yates]

Two things:

What is BTDT?

And two is 202hp, 237ft lbs of torque really underpowered for towing a max 2000lb trailer? Many guys on this board are towing AT's without problems.

Been There Done That

I didn't say it couldn't be done because I'm doing it hence the BTDT....what I said was that a Wrangler is not the best tow vehicle IMO. 2 different things.

Besides...those specs you are quoting are engine dyno specs....not what you get at the rear wheels. Again...2 different things.

[durango_60]

FWIW, I tow a heavily loaded M101 with my JK Unlimited and I have not found it to be a hinderance.

[grahamfitter]

Dear TeriAnn,

I love your Dormobil. When I lived in Europe, I had over the years 3 Land Rovers (a SeriesII 109 Ambulance, a 90 TD and a Defender 110), most of my friends either had Series III 109 or Land Cruisers Troopies. Now that I live in the US, I got converted to Jeeps.

As you know from your Dormobil, the European approach to Expedition Vehicles - leave out the Mogs and other big animals that make it on this site on a regular basis - is quite different. Less geared towards extreme off-roading with big lifts, long travel suspensions and fat tires and more towards - well - expedition traveling. Obviously you have a customer to satisfy, but I would say, don't ask too many question and take more the Dormobil-approach to the JK. A JK Unlimited Dormobil would just be a killer...

Just my .02 centimes...

If AEV ever produces their JK camper top I'll be first in line - popup top with built-in industrial strength roof rack.

http://www.aev-conversions.com/images/vehicles_show_outpost_jk.jpg

More from my bottomless tuppence jar:

As far as regular setup goes, for me the mechanical stuff is less important than the day-to-day livability and for four people with toys, comfy camping gear, food and a big cooler take up way too much space! Moving camp every day or even making lunch can become a chore if everything has to be shoehorned into the vehicle in the right order. Especially if its raining.

I usually put a Thule rocket box on the roof that fits a lot of the bulky but lightweight stuff like lawn chairs and leaves half the rack free for kayaks. It doesn't affect gas mileage any more than the rack does but the starting point is a hefty body or frame mounted rack which is heavy and mine at least also has quite a bit of wind noise from the front struts.

In the back of my TJ (space for 2 people only!) I have a 3/4" plywood shelf across the top of the tub which is just high enough to slide a large Coleman extreme cooler underneath and that's where the picnic table, stove, cooking stuff, water, etc goes. There's plenty of space above for lighter personal gear and boxes of food. I put a rock climbing bolt anchor at each mounting point to tie the lighter stuff down but so far I've never used them. I'm sure something similar would work fine in the back of a four door unlimited.

If fuel range is an issue I know you can get huge fuel tanks for LJs which are extraordinarily expensive but so much more convenient than gas cans which you have to attach to something solid, expensive and obvious. I wonder if you can get them for JKs?

The TJ is also wide enough to stash a 48" hilift jack behind the drivers seats where its out of the weather and reasonably accessible but might get in the way of the rear passengers if they have legs. I lash it to the bottom of the roll cage but I'm going to try quick fist clamps instead this year.

The trailer idea is great but if you don't go that route one thing you might like to consider - and if anybody has a good idea how I'm all ears - is mounting a standard 10 lb bulk propane tank outside the vehicle where its safer in the heat. A larger tank is way more useful than the disposable green cannisters but I've never found a suitable place for it outside so it always ends up strapped to the roll cage inside. I use a tee fitting that can run the stove and cheapo portable gas grill at the same time.

Question: Are these folks happy setting up a ground tent every day or is another sleeping solution required?

Cheers,
Graham

[Z O O R O P A]

i know we all love gear but consider this

what could a Rubicon not due with this little equipment

full roof rack, addition of 2 more tires on the roof rack, extra gas cans, sat phone, winch/bar, a few lights, which would all cost about 7K$ US or 20 Euros ( i kid i kid~!)

that will get you over the Rubicon trail and any place else cheap and comfortable

or you could just customize the JK with a plethora of stuff

i second the larger gas tank which can be easily fabricated and cheap

everything else has a purpose but is about preference to the owner - and what kind of expedition they are going on in what type of climate etc etc

[The Swiss]

If AEV ever produces their JK camper top I'll be first in line - popup top with built-in industrial strength roof rack.

http://www.aev-conversions.com/images/vehicles_show_outpost_jk.jpg Thanks Graham for making me drool again. I hope the guys at FWC have this pic too and are thinking about how to make their Falcon fit the JK Unlimited ...

[Uticon]

Another thing to remember.
If your buying new, the most factory options you get the more stuff that will be under warrantee.
Its bailed me out more than once.
:safari-rig:

[orangeTJ]

Depending on the duration of the trips, I tend to think that a trailer might be the only way to haul the gear required to support a family of 4.

[yrw]

hi this is my jeep,

[biere]

New guy here, been reading a lot and still have lots more to read.

My final choices for a vehicle were the 4 door wrangler or the grand cherokee.

I wound up with the grand mostly because of the engine.

For the specific requirements of this thread I figure a rubicon will have most of the needs covered along with a warranty on most of the parts.

A trailer is required in my opinion, I don't see any way around it with that many people in the jeep.

I understand going with a lower priced wrangler and adding to it but depending on if the purchaser can leave the rubicon mostly stock I think having warranty would be important.

These days I don't think many vehicles avoid trips to the dealer now and then.

[RunninRubicon]

I thought I would shed another thought on this thread. I have a 03 Rubicon on 33s and a 4" lift. I pull a 1700lb Off-road trailer to most every distant location I go. After pulling many mountain passes I found the stock 4.0L (3.8L would'nt be much {if any} better) lacking on thoughs long pulls. Because of this I added a Kenne Bell supercharger and now easily run with the traffic not hidding in the slow lane. But nothing is a free lunch. My gas-milage is about 10mpg pulling a trailer. 8-9mpg if I want to run up the hills and down the road at speed. That said the price of gas mandates consideration of a better aerodynamic vehicle like the Grand Cherokee with either the 4.6L or the CDI. I also agree camping with 4 people will necessitate a trailer. The GC will certainly get better gas mileage pulling a trailer and can be VERY capable off-road. Just my 2 cents.
Best of luck in your endeavors

[JRhetts]

TeriAnn
To set a context for my reply, I began Jeep driving in a CJ5 all over West Africa in the early 1960s, with (unrealized) hopes of driving - unsupported - Morocco to East Africa (silly me!).

Now we are running a 2008 Rubi Unlimited. In my opinion, if one wants to run inimproved roads and trails, you can do 99% in a stock Rubi, and if you have 2 of your kids on board you aren't going to (and shouldn't do) the other 1%. So, #1: Advise them to go stock. This vehicle is REMARKABLY well-set up as is!

The back end - with the seats up - will easily hold: 15 gal extra gas in 3 metal Jerry cans secured to the stock tie downs; a PowerTank to refill tires and operate air tools; 5 gal of water in a Jerry can; stand-up tent for 6; two cots for the adults; sleeping bags; a cooler for two to three days of food; pots and a single-burner gas stove. At least, mine does! (When we use the back seat space, either up or down, all sorts of luxuries can be included!.)

I think a family that puts too much emphasis on technical changes to the vehicle is making a mistake: Ego has captured the real goal of the exploration.

If more room is really needed by your clients, advise them to buy a trailer.

[Zeero]

Heres is one of our current two 07+ Rubicon Unlimiteds:

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/zeerotoo/DSC_3914.jpg

We have been extremely lucky and grateful to receive some sponsorship and support for our Expeditions from a variety of manufacturers and services...

This vehicle in the picture has a Rough Country 2.5" suspension upgrade and 1.25" Teraflex wheel spacers and 34.5" Maxxis Bighorn MT's....which were provided to us on both vehicles for our expeditions.

With the addition of a cargo handling system, winch and extra lighting....this vehicle really needs nothing more other than personal support gear.

It truely is an excellent vehicle for this type of travel, we are in the preparation stages of taking these through Moab, the Rockies, and the Arctic......possibly even through South America.

[The Swiss]

TeriAnn,

What ever happened to your Expedition JK Unlimited you were involved with?:coffee:

[Zeero]

Yeah I'm curious to? :coffeedrink: