Expeditions West XV-JP Testing and Build Thread

[Scott Brady]

I started a new thread, which will get past the "why (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13788)" and start to show the "what".

I just spent a few hours testing the Rubicon in Sedona. I will have more detailed commentary in the Overland Journal articles, but initially, it rocks. I drove the Rubicon nine times last summer in various JKs, mostly 2-doors and then once in the prototype XV-JP Unlimited version.

Here is a quick shot with a little flex (I could not find a way to get a tire in the air on that trail, but this is close).

http://www.expeditionswest.com/vehicles/ewvehicles/earthroamer_XV-JP/rubicon.jpg

We are working on the suspension now with several engineers, but look for some proven desert race technology to be included. Next is bumpers, followed by an aux. tank and recovery systems. I will most likely have a North American tire/wheel combo and then something different for South America. Still in the specification process.

More details soon.

[StumpXJ]

Looks good Scott! I almost asked the stupid question of: "why did you decide to go with the soft top over the hard top?" But then I remembered the 'other' modification you have planned for it....LOL.

Looking forward to watching this machine get built!

~James

[BriansFJ]

Watching closely...:iagree:

[HongerVenture]

This should be fun...

I love how much time, energy, research, and care you put into your vehicles Scott. The enginerd in me approves. ;-)

[shawkins]

I can't wait to see the finished product!

[TACODOC]

:lurk:

[Boston Mangler]

Subscribed and eagerly awaiting the build! :safari-rig:

[1leg]

What are the RPMs at 60, 65, with the 5.13 gears and 32inch tires.

[MuddyMudskipper]

Ahhhh....back to the business end of this Jeep!

:lurk:

[JRhetts]

Scott

I scored a new Rubicon Unlimited yesterday. I'll be testing it out as the snow leaves the fun places here in the Cascades, and I will be VERY interested in the suspension/wheel choices you come up with.

Please keep us posted in detail!!

John

[LUISJG]

Scott.
one question,, are you going to relocate the gas lines that pass right next to the transmision ? I been hearing that it might be a good idea,. they are to close to it and it gets very hot, plus with some jks burning some people say it might be the reason.
im thinking of relocating mine.

[TheGillz]

Updates????:coffee:

[Scott Brady]

Yes, piles of parts are accumulating in the garage. AEV has been a huge support.

The EarthRoamer conversion is scheduled for the second week of July.

We are very excited.

The build will be featured in two parts, the first being all of the Jeep modifications and the second being the EarthRoamer conversion.

[TheGillz]

Awesome, can't wait!

[JeepinBear]

Looking forward to it! :Astrologist:

[nwoods]

The build will be featured in two parts, the first being all of the Jeep modifications and the second being the EarthRoamer conversion.

And the third will be tuning and tweaking the setup from part one, with lots of cool trail testing photos, and then the fourth will be about expedition prep....

Oh sorry. I was just getting carried away there for a minute. Please resume with Step 1!

[SeaRubi]

Scott, can't wait to see the final product in action on some future adventure. Second week of July - getting close! I imagine you guys must be busy with the other mods about now. Good luck in getting the new rig buttoned up.

cheers
-isaac

[XXXpedition]

hey, it's july already!!! - soon to come.............:wings:

[Scott Brady]

Yes, I leave for Colorado on the 10th with the Jeep, and the two ADV motos in tow.

Right now, Jeremy and I are busy installing all of the AEV equipment!

[TheGillz]

Yes, I leave for Colorado on the 10th with the Jeep, and the two ADV motos in tow.

Right now, Jeremy and I are busy installing all of the AEV equipment!

Then there must be pics!!?

[XXXpedition]

yep, pics would be good....:violent-smiley-031:

[flyingwil]

X3

[Scott Brady]

http://www.expeditionswest.com/vehicles/ewvehicles/earthroamer_XV-JP/AEV_Snorkel.jpg

[mountainpete]

Is that an AEV snorkel/hood combo? Very nice.

[vengeful]

So....I guess this will put a final word on that Snorkel Debate Thread, eh? :gunt: If'n Scotty's got'un, they must be worth it! :26_7_2:


Looks great Scott!!

[XXXpedition]

snorkel and hood are nice...
but is sure doesn't look like an earthroamer conversion :-)))))))))))))))))

[The Swiss]

still looks like mine, well, except the hood, the snorkel and that fancy stickerl on the door :D

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Before:

Broken Arrow Trail...........

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/ScenicWonderRunner/2008_0429AZNMTXtrip0270.jpg


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/ScenicWonderRunner/2008_0429AZNMTXtrip0230.jpg


4-29-2008.........


.

[ujoint]

That hood & snorkel look soooooo nice. They did a great job on those pieces.

[Zeero]

We have looked at fitting that same snorkel but quickly discovered an issue.....it doesn't fit with the roof racks we'll be using....

The racks leading arms run along the sides of the windshield....this snorkel fits tightly to the sides.....

Soooooo....no go.

That "Salad Shooter" top doesn't look so great either, buuut, it is functionally outstanding.

AEV did do a great job designing and building this snorkel, it just doesn't fit our application.

Lookin good so far Scott, keep it going, don't stop.

[Hltoppr]

The precleaners don't look the best, (I personally really like it...), but boy do they work. My FJ80 used to have a good amount of silt and dust collected in the bowl within two or three days of baja roads...and given where this rig will be going...definitely a good mod to add.

Looks great Scott! Can't wait to see it in person!

-H-

[cruiseroutfit]

I can't get over how clean the AEV JK hood/snorkel looks, what a knock out design that is not only sleek looking but extremely functional too.

Excited to see how the rest of the build progresses in the coming weeks. :cool:

[Scott Brady]

I can't get over how clean the AEV JK hood/snorkel looks, what a knock out design that is not only sleek looking but extremely functional too.

Excited to see how the rest of the build progresses in the coming weeks. :cool:

Kurt,

The whole thing should be in SLC in early August. We will have to schedule a meet-and-greet.

[Scott Brady]

Tim (SOAZ) is up in Prescott and helping with the suspension system install. The first-phase of the suspension is the new ACOS Pro adjustable coil mounts, with internal air-bumps. So far, it is really nice (front is in). We will install the rear today, along with the HD rear anti-swaybar.

[elias]

Hi Scott,

I have a question about that hood. When you order it, does it come painted to match your jeep, or did you have to have it painted and decals installed after receiving it?

Also, is there any issues with rain going into the engine compartment thru the vents?

Thanks

[TheGillz]

Hi Scott,

I have a question about that hood. When you order it, does it come painted to match your jeep, or did you have to have it painted and decals installed after receiving it?

Also, is there any issues with rain going into the engine compartment thru the vents?

Thanks

It needs to be painted.

Rain can go through, but is that worse than mud or water coming up from under?

[elias]

Hey, thanks for the response. I don't mean thru the snorkel, I means thru the vents in the hood. The reason I ask is because I would want to get the hood without the snorkel since there would be no room for a roof cage with the snorkel in place.

[TheGillz]

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=47969&d=1209609567

If you get the hood only there are matching grills that match on either side. The snorkle conveniently fits in the right hand one should you get it.

[LUISJG]

Hey, thanks for the response. I don't mean thru the snorkel, I means thru the vents in the hood. The reason I ask is because I would want to get the hood without the snorkel since there would be no room for a roof cage with the snorkel in place.


elias,, you can install a roof roof rack with the snorkel with no problem,,you just have to get the correct one like the wilderness.

also , if you get the hood only,, it comes with the side snorkel entries pluged.
no problem not having a snorkel

[cruiseroutfit]

...The whole thing should be in SLC in early August. We will have to schedule a meet-and-greet.

You bet!

[Paul R]

The whole thing should be in SLC in early August. We will have to schedule a meet-and-greet.

I would definately come down to SLC for a meet-and-greet! :)

[97 zj steve]

love the AEV hood :lurk:

[Willman]

I would definately come down to SLC for a meet-and-greet! :)

Ditto!

:)

[SOAZ]

The bump stop coilovers are a neat design. It was easy to install relative to other kits. Just a little drilling of some bolt holes, cutting off of factory bump stops and then installing it all.
Just had to remove the shocks and sway bar to get them installed. This Jeeps suspension has a LOT of potential for travel. When the sway bar is either "unlocked" (for the front) or disconnected (in the rear) the suspension just keeps drooping and drooping until the brake lines become taught.

I'd say its an all day Saturday job for one guy or even faster for two.

I started late in the day and finished up the following day. We messed with the height a bit to try and get the desired affect. The jeep looks great!
The sway bar is MASSIVE! It should do a great job along with the bump stops in controlling the added weight of the conversion.
I also like that since they are air bumps the compression can be changed by simply adding or taking out a bit of the nitrogen charge.

[Zeero]

Be sure to add some longer sway bar links in the front....or else when you engage the sway bar disco, the "continuous droop" you mentioned will straighten the linkage out completely, and on recompression there will be a high chance of the sway link reversing its fold, and compress in the wrong direction due to its shorter factory length.

We have tested this on our two Rubicons and have discovered that on average this will happen approximately 6 times out of 10....%60 of the time.

So with that, it was nessecary to install slightly long sway links. Now the problem occurs...never.

Just a suggestion. :)

We've done almost 45,000 kms of testing on these machines. Man are they tough, and with the right set-up, unbeatable.

Each upgrade gets a good 500-1000 kms of testing, off and on road just to ensure we can truely rely on that part for the long haul where we need it most.

Nice write up though guys, I've been following it quietly.

[toyrunner95]

so... what? You forgot how to take pics? Hello McFly!!! lets get some visual stimulus here!

[toyrunner95]

bump

[XXXpedition]

The first-phase of the suspension is the new ACOS Pro adjustable coil mounts, with internal air-bumps. So far, it is really nice (front is in). We will install the rear today, along with the HD rear anti-swaybar.
so,...............
where are the pics?????????????
:-)))))))))))))

[TheGillz]

I'm sure the pics are reserved for a future issue of Overland Journal. Which kinda makes this thread seem silly to me.

[mountainpete]

Ummm... Remember Scott has been preparing for and riding this for the past few weeks: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15720

Kind of hard to post pics of this project while riding slugging around a KTM. :bigbossHL:

[Momrocks]

I'm sure the pics are reserved for a future issue of Overland Journal. Which kinda makes this thread seem silly to me.


I've thought the same thing too but we need to remember the numbers of hits and responses on a thread are used to market to potential customers and sponsors. It's sometimes logistically difficult to post up from the road to keep the buzz. A couple of the hit and run "generator" posts may have been all that was possible from the TAT. I am trying to do my part by logging in 19 to 40 times throughout the day. Actually that is a statement of denial that I have an addiction to the forum.

[Scott Brady]

:jump:

About 5-6 days left

http://www.expeditionswest.com/vehicles/ewvehicles/earthroamer_XV-JP/XV-JP_in_process.jpg

[Redline]

I love it.

Right now it looks kind of like a European mini-ambulance or delivery truck :-)

[Hltoppr]

:lurk:

I can't wait to crawl around this thing!!!!

-H-

[97 zj steve]

WOW...:lurk:

[imagodave]

Niiiice!!!:jump:

[The Swiss]

Here we go!! :lurk: Was about time :D

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Too kewl.

[stjjames]

:smiley_drive:

[ttora4runner]

Cool.:jump:

[bigreen505]

Wow, they move fast! That seems like a lot of work since you dropped it off.

[Scott Brady]

EarthRoamer has some awesome employees working on it. Amazing attention to detail.

[bigreen505]

I think the attention to detail is what impressed me most about the Earthroamers, and you could see it in all stages of production.

[SeaRubi]

:smiley_drive: lookin' good, Scott!

[Willman]

:roost:


:jump:

[gahill2]

The new rig is looking great.

Any updates?:safari-rig:

[Scott Brady]

We are working on it every day. Tim (SOAZ) is up here helping with it too. My excitement is really building. The newest builds (like mine) are quite the evolution from the prototype, including harnesses and modules for reliability. I will post more pictures soon.

[SinCityFJC]

Looking good - waiting for pics & a write up in OJ

[Trail Monkey]

Scott

do you have a regular cyclic itch for vehicle replacement? id like to start planning on buying the earthroamer from you. :hehe:

[Milehi explorer]

Awesome, looks like it is coming along nicely!

[SOAZ]

She is coming along nicely!!
Almost there. Lots of finishing details to do, but man it looks sharp!

Scott is correct. Amazing employees here. After a couple
12+ hours days I'm bushed! Time for that Singletrack Copper Ale I picked up!:Mechanic:
:26_7_2:

[Scott Brady]

Within hours of being finished. Just the tent remains, which will arrive in the next 30 minutes or so.

I expect to be sleeping in it tonight - pretty exciting :D

http://www.expeditionswest.com/vehicles/ewvehicles/earthroamer_XV-JP/build/XV-JP_near_complete.JPG

When I get it back to AZ, we will install the AEV wheels and new tires, along with a few additional suspension adjustments, shocks, etc.

Then, we will load it full of gear and head to So. Cal. and then all the way up the coast to Oregon and the Steens Mountains, then east to Moab for the LRNR.

Hopefully I can see a few of you along the way :smiley_drive:

[Scott Brady]

And a big thanks to Tim (SOAZ) for all of the hard work in Denver. Could not have finished this up on time without you!

[Scott Brady]

Scott

do you have a regular cyclic itch for vehicle replacement? id like to start planning on buying the earthroamer from you. :hehe:

Yes :)

We try to replace the vehicles before 80k, so they have a nice amount of life left in them. It should take less than three years to hit that with the XV-JP.

[goodtimes]

Nice!

I'm looking forward to seeing it when you get it back to AZ.

:beer:

[Willman]

Looking great Scott!

Can't wait to see this sweet rig in person!


Carry on!

:lurk:

[crawler#976]

Nice!

I'm looking forward to seeing it when you get it back to AZ.

:beer:

...me too! I'll buy a round at the Raven for a chance to check out your new digs!

[goodtimes]

...me too! I'll buy a round at the Raven for a chance to check out your new digs!

I'll be in preskitt in a couple weeks for a bit of 'yak action on Watson lake...the g/f wants to check out the Raven....we should get everyone together for a evening of food, beer, friends, and checking out Scotty's new ride.....

[DaJudge]

Scott,

Are you going to be able to stop in ABQ for Lunch/Dinner/Something on your way back to AZ?

Glen

[bigreen505]

:clapsmile

I was dreaming about that thing last night.

There has been a lot of discussion on the board about how much those cost, but looking at the going rates for some other vehicles (like a Defender 110 or rebuilt Land Cruiser), I have to say the is the EarthRoamer is starting to look like a serious value as well as a premium product. As I mentioned the other day, there are a lot of people like me who are more interested in exploring than building and would pay a premium for a turn-key platform.

Still, my issue with XV-JP's remains the size. For me (that means my intended use, my family, me me me) I feel a little like Goldilocks, the LT is too big, but the JP still seems too small.

ER should make some sort of skirt/enclosure that attaches to the opened tent to expand the living area around/in the vehicle, similar to Eezi-Awn.

[durango_60]

Still, my issue with XV-JP's remains the size. For me (that means my intended use, my family, me me me) I feel a little like Goldilocks, the LT is too big, but the JP still seems too small.


I'm quite certain ER did not design the JP with anything more than a very close couple in mind. I haven't been able to dream up a better new family rig than a Powerwagon/4WC combo or a JK pulling a AT Clamshell.

[SinCityFJC]

http://www.expeditionswest.com/vehicles/ewvehicles/earthroamer_XV-JP/build/XV-JP_near_complete.JPG

Looks great - ER should add pics to their site of white ones. I think looks better than green.

[neliconcept]

the bridger wheels?

and what size tires?

[crawler#976]

Paging Mister Brady, Paging Mister Brady, Paging Mister Brady :xxrotflma


I'll be in preskitt in a couple weeks for a bit of 'yak action on Watson lake...the g/f wants to check out the Raven....we should get everyone together for a evening of food, beer, friends, and checking out Scotty's new ride.....

[pangaea]

That thing looks pretty sweet. Post some pics of it out on the trail this weekend, since you're heading in the wrong direction and I wont be able to see it for a while.

Are you taking it to the LR Nat Rally?

[Desertdude]

Looking great Scott!

[Scott Brady]

It will be at the LRNR :)

And, it is officially finished. We just tested all of the systems, and all is working. It will need some new coils in the rear for sure, given the weight.

[Chris]

Scott, where in So. Cal. maybe I could chase you down to check it out, or just buy you some hops at a local pub.

Looks great......congrats.

:jump:

[SeaRubi]

that looks awesome in white. seems sleeker somehow. saw the reference to Steens - you might check in with the NWOS folks; they had a big trip out to that area recently and a couple of 'em are pretty familiar with the routes.

[SOAZ]

And a big thanks to Tim (SOAZ) for all of the hard work in Denver. Could not have finished this up on time without you!

Many thanks from Danica and I to you Scott, for the oppurtunity.

I can barely move my body after more than one 16 hour days working hard, but the finished product is worth it.

I can say from experience that these guys do not cut one corner. Not one item is used because of cost savings. At this level every item used is the best they can find or make themselves. I was amazed at how much is made in house. If they want something unique, they just make it.

Class act. Anyone with doubts or questions about these trucks feel free to ask me. I've never worked so hard or slept so well.

Enjoy Scott. She's your new baby!

Its 10:30pm and I'm enjoying a late beer and we just finished her and another EV-JP that will be headed to south america.

:beer:
Time to go and have some fun in Leadville!

[ventura911]

Scott, are you thinking of showing it at the Off Road Expo in Pomona this October? If not, I'll join the list of So Cal folk who'll buy you a drink for a peek! Just say when/where!

Kevin

[toyrunner95]

So you want to come up here to the PNW and try your hand at the busy wild? You think the rubicon was bad? The busy will put the rubicon to shame, and put that snorkle to good use.

[ventura911]

ER should make some sort of skirt/enclosure that attaches to the opened tent to expand the living area around/in the vehicle, similar to Eezi-Awn.


ER has a prototype in the works:

http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/medium/img_86260920413776_std.jpg

http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/medium/img_86480920413776_std.jpg

http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/medium/img_86230920413776_std.jpg


Kind of reminds me of the French Foreign Legion-type hat, for some reason:xxrotflma :

http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/hat.jpg

[bigreen505]

Sweet, I figured they would, I just had not seen that. Thanks!

[SinCityFJC]

Great - like doubles the space with rear enclosure

[ventura911]

I am curious to see how the rear tent works with the tire carrier / bumper combination, though, and if it has a floor.

[gahill2]

It will be at the LRNR :)

And, it is officially finished. We just tested all of the systems, and all is working. It will need some new coils in the rear for sure, given the weight.

Congratulations! It turned out awesome for sure.

[OldSven]

Where in Oregon are you heading and what dates?

[ttora4runner]

Is your 4runner next Tim.

That thing looks great. :smiley_drive:

[Willman]

Bump for an update!

:)

[Scott Brady]

I am currently sitting out a rainstorm in Leadville... So far, so good.

Will try to post some images, once the sun comes back out. :)

My initial impressions are good, and I have been surprised by the usability of the interior space. More than enough for one person, and the bed is very comfortable with the unique box spring and memory-foam mattress.

I ran the heater last night too, which easily kept off the 35 degree chill in the air outside. The 85 watt solar panel and (2) group 31 batteries have kept up with the fridge, heater blower and the laptop for a few days now. The mobile office is in operation!

[goodtimes]

Scott, do you remember that quote from the middle of the afternoon on July 18th, a hour or two before we rolled into Salida?

You know...."Life sucks . . . [long pause] . . . for everyone except us".

I think you can probably remove the "us", and replace it with "me" (as in: you).

I'd tell you to enjoy it....but I'm sure that you already are...

:friday:

[SOAZ]

Is your 4runner next Tim.

That thing looks great. :smiley_drive:


I wish!!!! :arabia:

[Purple People Eater]

Tim, I just noticed in your signature that you are a "Dazzling Conversationalist". :xxrotflma

[Scott Brady]

Stephanie and I just made it back to Prescott, and all is well with the little Roamer. It even did well pulling a trailer with the KTM on it.

First impressions with Steph and I living out of the camper are quite good. We have a list of organizational and storage adjustments to make, but it is surprising how easily two people can live in a Jeep. The huge bed swung out over the back is the key, as one person can relax up there and work or read, while the other is using the shower/toilet, changing or preparing a snack. I think the screen room hanging from the back will be key, as it will allow all-weather and all-bug cooking and relaxing. I might look into a microwave for the back, as the ability to heat up water/milk/coffee or a quick meal was very useful in the Sportsmobile we tested.

The heater rocks, and easily keeps the entire tent cozy, even on setting 1.

I guess the most important thing is that the camper works with two people, now we just need to work on our gear lists and organization strategies. That is the key to a relaxing trip and happy travel partners.

[kcowyo]

I think the screen room hanging from the back will be key, as it will allow all-weather and all-bug cooking and relaxing.

The heater rocks, and easily keeps the entire tent cozy, even on setting 1.

I guess the most important thing is that the camper works with two people, now we just need to work on our gear lists and organization strategies. That is the key to a relaxing trip and happy travel partners.

Agreed.

And good call on the screen room too. Many times in inclement weather, I've wished we had an additional screen room like the Paha Que SUV tent mentioned in the first Overland Journal. As nice as the interior space is, and it doesn't look much different than the FWC's interior space, sometimes a little more room is necessary. Especially during meal prep. As my Mom used to say, "This is a one butt kitchen!"

I'm not sure how much you'll use the heater down south, but it is my favorite accessory. There is nothing better than waking up on a chilly morning and reaching out from your bag and flipping the thermostat on. Five minutes later, voila!, a nice warm room to change in and get breakfast going. I know your loyalty to the fridge, but there are times when one would chose a warm camper over a cold beverage. Blasphemy, I know. ;)
.

[ventura911]

Scott, I'm curious how you and others are going to stow heavy / dirty recovery gear inside. I wouldn't want to store such items in the overhead area. Have you come up with a solution?

Does the screen room work well with the rear tire carrier / rack set-up?

Oh, and is there a rain fly for the tent?

Hope you're going to be at the Off Road Expo in Pomona. If so, please advise the date(s).

Thanks for the info!
Kevin

[BIGdaddy]

I am currently sitting out a rainstorm in Leadville... So far, so good.

Will try to post some images, once the sun comes back out. :)

My initial impressions are good, and I have been surprised by the usability of the interior space. More than enough for one person, and the bed is very comfortable with the unique box spring and memory-foam mattress.

I ran the heater last night too, which easily kept off the 35 degree chill in the air outside. The 85 watt solar panel and (2) group 31 batteries have kept up with the fridge, heater blower and the laptop for a few days now. The mobile office is in operation!

aren't you going to be travelling with two people, though?

:oops:...lol.

[Scott Brady]

aren't you going to be travelling with two people, though?

:oops:...lol.

Yep, and I just posted (a few posts back) my impressions on traveling with two people in the ER. More than adequate, in fact, Stephanie was quite happy with everything.

[Scott Brady]

Scott, I'm curious how you and others are going to stow heavy / dirty recovery gear inside. I wouldn't want to store such items in the overhead area. Have you come up with a solution?

Does the screen room work well with the rear tire carrier / rack set-up?

I plan to store tools and recovery gear under the front seats, which fortunately, has a surprising amount of room. The rest (and spares) will be stored on the rear Wilderness rack.

As we will have a minimum of three vehicles along, we are going to spread tools and spares and recovery equipment out amongst the rigs. i.e., one hi-lift, one PullPal, etc.



Oh, and is there a rain fly for the tent?
Kevin

Currently, the tent has no fly, only waterproofing. I think it needs a fly, and ER is planning to offer one at some point, hopefully before we leave for SA

[BIGdaddy]

Yep, and I just posted (a few posts back) my impressions on traveling with two people in the ER. More than adequate, in fact, Stephanie was quite happy with everything.

lol... i see that now, scott....i'm a retard

i musta been typing with my eyes closed.

take it from me, the screen room is a good idea. i've travelled a lot by boat around our great west coast and lemme tell ya, wimmen's need there space.

even with 40 foot catalina to spread out on, i had to circle the wagons more than once to prevent being shot by the natives...lol. :REOutArchery02:

[Willman]

Currently, the tent has no fly, only waterproofing. I think it needs a fly, and ER is planning to offer one at some point, hopefully before we leave for SA

I was wondering the same thing away back on this thread!

A fly would be a must have!!!

Thanks for the update!...Glad the boss is happy......that is what counts!

Can't wait to see XV-JP all stickered up!!!!!

:)

[jdemonto]

Recently I have seen one of these Earthroamers and wow they are sweet! Very well thought out and very well constructed. Have any more pics?

Jason

[Scott Brady]

Recently I have seen one of these Earthroamers and wow they are sweet! Very well thought out and very well constructed. Have any more pics?

Jason


Was it black?

[ttora4runner]

Did you pass though Ouray, Colorado last Thrusday?



If that was your jeep that thing looked great.

[pangaea]

I guess the most important thing is that the camper works with two people, now we just need to work on our gear lists and organization strategies. That is the key to a relaxing trip and happy travel partners.

Thanks for letting me crawl around in the truck before you guys took it back to AZ. I was very impressed with the truck. Great build quality, well thought out design, super cool features. The only challenge that I can see is what you mentioned gear and organization.

My impression is that in order to build the vehicle to live in it (rather than out of it, like many expedition vehicles), some compromises have to be made in terms of storage solutions and also just plain storage volume available. That would be a bit of a tough one for me, since my wife tells me that I pack like a girl.

But if adventurers travel around the world out of a pair of panniers on a bike, I'm sure it can be done, it'll just take a bit more thought and discipline.

[Milehi explorer]

Scott, what kind of fuel mileage are you getting out of the new ride? I only ask because I currently have a JK and average around 18 and am curious to see how the modifications change the mileage.

thanks!

[Scott Brady]

Did you pass though Ouray, Colorado last Thrusday?



If that was your jeep that thing looked great.

HA! Yes, and I remember your 4Runner too :) TTORA sticker on the back...

[Scott Brady]

Scott, what kind of fuel mileage are you getting out of the new ride? I only ask because I currently have a JK and average around 18 and am curious to see how the modifications change the mileage.

thanks!

It is a bit early to say for sure, but I expect the mileage to be around 16 on average and maybe into the 17-18 range at sustained 55-60mph speeds

Coming back from Denver, towing a trailer with the KTM, we averaged 14.8.

[ttora4runner]

HA! Yes, and I remember your 4Runner too :) TTORA sticker on the back...

Cool. Did you end up camping up there somewhere on your way though?

[Gear]

Hello Scott,
Do you have any shots of the new tires and wheels. I would like to see a photograph from the front showing the offset with the fenders. Long story short I tried putting Jerry(1legs) 255/85/16 on my Jeep the other day. Only to find out that the stock rims rubbed right up against my rear lower control arms(I have Poly Performance). So I was only able to go about 2 feet. Great lesson in tire changing 101. Still thinking about that increase in fuel economy.

[Scott Brady]

My AEV wheels (17" Beadlocks) have much less of an offset, than even stock. I will post up some images soon.

[theksmith]

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/images/smilies/worthless.gif

;)

[Sgt Grunt]

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/images/smilies/worthless.gif

;)


Please Scott don't post pictures of yourself in the shower!!!! :sombrero: Some things just need to be kept private....:jump: :hehe:

[theksmith]

Please Scott don't post pictures of yourself in the shower!!!! :sombrero: Some things just need to be kept private....:jump: :hehe:

nice!

but seriously, am i missing something? are there pictures posted somewhere else of the actuall rig (other than the single one in post #72)? I know ER has pics of thiers on thier site, but I wanna see the EW version in action!!!

[hochung]

well, not really "in action" but here it is:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/nationalrally08/nr08002%20007.jpg

I blocked him in so that he couldn't drive it while in Moab.

[Scott Brady]

Doing a little testing in Moab :archaeolo

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2008/LRNR/XV-JP_Moab.jpg

Set up at the vendor night:
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2008/LRNR/XV-JP_Moab_vendor.jpg

[hochung]

should have blocked better.

[Scott Brady]

should have blocked better.

Hee hee... But that would have required your Disco be "mobile" ;)

[hochung]

true, LOL

[Northern Explorer]

Scott,

Maybe you can elaborate on something for me. On the Earthroamer web site (http://earthroamer.com/tab_xpedition_vehicles/vehicles.html), they state that the XV-JP comes equipped with "cooking facilities". But, in all of the pictures that I have seen (including all of the really good pictures on the ebay listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited-Ru-EARTHROAMER-XV-JP-XPEDITION-RV-RUBICON-RARE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39 Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp328 6Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem280271519747QQitemZ28027151 9747))I can't seem to find what this consists of. Is it a single burner stove? Is it on the inside or outside? What fuel?

thanks

and another pic would be great:)

[theksmith]

thanks for the pics, keep em coming! it looks good! want to see more about how you end up modifying it from ER "stock".

Ho, the G4 Disco looks great as always, i almost bought one on ebay about a year ago but ended up with a grand cherokee as i know more people in jeep clubs around here... still envy yours though!

[bme]

Scott,

Maybe you can elaborate on something for me. On the Earthroamer web site (http://earthroamer.com/tab_xpedition_vehicles/vehicles.html), they state that the XV-JP comes equipped with "cooking facilities". But, in all of the pictures that I have seen (including all of the really good pictures on the ebay listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited-Ru-EARTHROAMER-XV-JP-XPEDITION-RV-RUBICON-RARE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39 Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp328 6Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem280271519747QQitemZ28027151 9747))I can't seem to find what this consists of. Is it a single burner stove? Is it on the inside or outside? What fuel?

thanks




and another pic would be great:)


i have the same question. ??
picture please
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Bmw R51 (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/BMW_R51)

[Scott Brady]

I opted to not have any cooking options on my Jeep. I know they have several concepts in test, including a microwave. On the Sportsmobile we used, the microwave was a very useful solution.

I am testing several stove configurations at the moment, deciding between the Brunton Vapor, the Snow Peak Two Burner and the Partner Steel.

I leave for Baja in the morning for further testing, and have a full IGT system on board, including the Snow Peak two burner and the BBQ Box.

At least for my needs, I do not see the benefit of having integrated cooking, as I want to be able to cook inside or out. :12_4_18:

[AFSOC]

I know they have several concepts in test, including a microwave.
Am I interpreting this to mean there is no interior cooking offerings as yet? I guess I have never researched the XV-JP very closely but I'm shocked to find this out. Are other systems developmentally mature (water heater, holding tanks, water pressurization, furnace)?

Pardon me while I head off to scour the Earthroamer website.

[Scott Brady]

Am I interpreting this to mean there is no interior cooking offerings as yet?

I really do not know for sure (i.e., I am a customer, not an XV-JP salesperson), just relating that they were looking at a possible microwave option. You should give them a call and ask.

I know that for my Jeep and most of the other owners of JPs that I know, we all opted not to have a permanent interior cooking option. Even if it were permanent, it would need to be at least removable (i.e. semi-permanent). I really enjoy cooking outside, if the weather is fair.

I am sure there are many considerations EarthRoamer will need to evaluate if they will offer an interior stove solution, being that the top is essentially a tent.

Regarding if other systems are developmentally mature, you should ask them that as well. I know that my Jeep (#6) has exceeded my expectations. The water system, shower, water heater, heater, etc. all work awesome.

I will have more images and reports in the next week, once we get back from Baja

[AFSOC]

I will have more images and reports in the next week, once we get back from Baja

I look forward to reading about it and looking at the pics. Have fun!

[toyrunner95]

Please Please Please take pics of it on the beach. That would just be awsome. Oh and check your PMs I sent you one a week or two ago.

[Sleeping Dog]

Scott, have you had an opportunity to put XV-JP on a scale and what does it weigh? Lovely rig, your toys make me green

Thanks

Jim

[Scott Brady]

I have not weighed it yet. Maybe I will do that today, on the way to the Expedition Trophy.

[Scott Brady]

Here is some live motion action!

XV-JP testing in Baja and the sand dunes (http://www.expeditionswest.com/vehicles/ewvehicles/earthroamer_XV-JP/XV-JP_Testing.mov)

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2008/XV-JP_Testing_Baja/dunes_xv-jp_earthroamer.jpg

[viatierra]

It isn't loading for me. I see that it is 36megs... should that take more than a couple of minutes to load up?

[Photog]

It isn't loading for me. I see that it is 36megs... should that take more than a couple of minutes to load up?

Mine took a while. I just went on with other things, until it started to run.:o

[Hilux_Max]

Been a while since the last post on this vehicle.......

any updates?

Ive seen an advertisement here in australia for the 4x4 action magazine...they are doing a reviw on this very Jeep, or one that look almost identical to it on their latest dvd that comes with the mag.

have they made a version of the Earthroamer conversion for a dual cab 05+ Tacoma? as I have a 07 hilux dualcab and would be interested to see what they could do with a dual cab ute configuration?

how much has fitting this affected your centre of gravity and vehicle bodyroll when offroad?

[Scott Brady]

The Jeep is quite wide, and ER did a good job on keeping the really heavy bits down low. For example, the two group 31 batteries are at the frame level.

The Jeep did well on the Central America trip.
http://www.expeditionswest.com/EOE/image_assets/CA_Selects/pictures/picture-110.jpg

[winkosmosis]

Looks awesome.

I have a question though. Instead of having the top extend forward past the windshield, acting like a parachute, why not chop off the section where those lights are housed and slant the forward face back? Good gas mileage is good for expeditions.

[mhiscox]

Have they made a version of the Earthroamer conversion for a dual cab 05+ Tacoma? as I have a 07 hilux dualcab and would be interested to see what they could do with a dual cab ute configuration?
The EarthRoamer Jeep is currrently just sold as a complete truck, so the composite cabin is not available separately, just as an integrated unit with the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimted under it.

The shell, which is exactly the dimensions required for the Jeep, is molded, so there's not the prospect of fitting it to a lot of different trucks, as each truck would require a somewhat different mold. So while it would be possible for EarthRoamer to supply empty cabins to mount to Unlimited (four-door) JKs, it's be tough to make this cabin work for multiple trucks.

[mhiscox]

Looks awesome.

I have a question though. Instead of having the top extend forward past the windshield, acting like a parachute, why not chop off the section where those lights are housed and slant the forward face back? Good gas mileage is good for expeditions.
Two reasons. The first is that the tent attaches somewhat forward on the nose cone so that means that even with the tent slanting at the front, there's full standing height in the cabin (and also the front part of the tent gets tucked into this "nose cone" when stored). Maybe a picture will help:

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp283/mhiscox01/ER05.jpg

The other reason is that when the tent is raised, the nose cone provides a substantial amount of storage, or even sleeping space for a small child if you fabbed up a railing.

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp283/mhiscox01/ER47.jpg

[Scott Brady]

Yes, that storage space is critical to the concept working.

[Scott Brady]

On my way to the EarthRoamer owners rally in Moab with the XV-JP. Looking forward to playing on a few of the Moab trails.

I am also taking the long way there, through VOTG and the La Sals.

I should have some new images and reports soon.

[jeepmedic46]

That is one very nice set up.:smiley_drive:

[Willman]

On my way to the EarthRoamer owners rally in Moab with the XV-JP. Looking forward to playing on a few of the Moab trails.

I am also taking the long way there, through VOTG and the La Sals.

I should have some new images and reports soon.

Right on Scott......following your Spot as i type...have fun!

Watch the weather.....It has been crazy the last few hours!!

:snorkel:

[Scott Brady]

First nights camp in the Valley of the Gods:
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(1).jpg

Have a little HDR fun
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(2).jpg

The Goosenecks
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_.jpg

[jeepmedic46]

That is beautiful country, I'm hoping to get out there some day.:smiley_drive:

[imagodave]

That is just breathtaking......:Wow1: So is the view!

[Scott Brady]

morning light
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(3).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(4).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(5).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(6).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(7).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(8).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(9).jpg

[nwoods]

Awesome work Scott. That first shot is terrific. I sure like your job :-)

[Scott Brady]

Thanks Nathan.

A few more from the last couple days.

Room with a view? Just for fun ;)
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(11).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(13).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(14).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(15).jpg

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2009/ER_UTAH/ER_Utah_%20(16).jpg