Desertdude -1997 80 series build up

[Desertdude]

We have been on full alert for an extremely low mile 1997 80 series Landcruiser. One finally came our way. This is a 40th anniversary model with 40K original miles - an unlocked garage kept street queen. The original owner babied this Toyota - I will not :D

I will upload engine photos soon -view other photos HERE (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum99.html)

mods to follow as time permits

OME "J" springs lift - (Slee)
tire upgrade - TBD
Slee sliders
Arb winch bumper
Warn 9000xp W/rope
Hanna rear bumper tire carrier
arb lockers frt & rear
frt & rear re-gearing
iron pig skid plate
Safari Snorkel - (cool factor of 10)
Engel 45-qt fridge/freezer
Custom made drawers - (by me)
audio system upgrade - TBD
dual batteries
onboard welder
onboard water heater/shower
CO2
OZ aux tank

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[kcowyo]

Where's the drooling smilie.....?

....nice Dude :cool:

[Scott Brady]

Now that is just incredible! What an excellent machine.

This is going to be a fantastic build-up (from what we have already seen from you)

[BajaTaco]

BLING!

Whoa, not quite the right color... but we can overlook that for now :p

NICE FIND! :cool:

[kevin]

The truck looks great. The 1993 and up Fj80's are my favorite landcruisers. I love the 4.5L, DOHC, 24 valves, 9:1 compression, over-square. In my opinion it is the best gasoline engine in its class. Good luck with the build-up!

[Desertdude]

Thanks guys! I was trying desperatey to hold out for a white one with low miles and lockers, but as we all know it is hard at this point in time to find.

I have to take some photos of the engine compartment tomorrow and post.

The first thing I notice is how nice the seats are :smileeek:

[bluerunner]

I know Scott is envious of those pedals! ;)

Looking forward to the build up, I love that model! :jump:

[kevin]

Leather seats are great here in the Pacific Northwest, mud will not stain them. And when they do get muddy, just turn on the heated seats, it dries right out and flakes off.

[The BN Guy]

Never seen Piaa's mounted in the bumper like that before.

[Scott Brady]

I know Scott is envious of those pedals! ;)


:xxrotflma (oh no, the chromophobia is setting in... twitch, twitch :smilies27 )

But, I think I could cope with the chrome pedals to have a sweet 80 like that :D

[Desertdude]

as chromalishious as i can be... those pedals make me ill - might be the first thing to go - including all the extra gold Camary LE badging -oh yeah and the twin chrome tail pipes - :shakin:

The PO had the bumper carved out to install the lights - then paid to have the bumper spray painted again - He also removed the silver plate on the back bumper turned it black and sprayed that bumper as well - there are also lights in the rear tailgate with plastic covers on them- back up lights - I guess you have to get out and take off the covers before you can use them- lucky for me I did not buy it for the trim package - :elkgrin:

There is a DVD player and two wireless head sets - the DVD player is installed under the drivers seat and the screen up on the ceiling where the interior light was - The PO saved the light so the player can be removed - I would rather have the light back so i can see when I get in = :Wow1:

Drove on the highway last night - first impressions - it needs an alignment and new shocks real bad - the owner swapped the original rims and up sized Wranglers back on the truck for the sale ( he had some low riding michelins on the first test drive ...Really?) it has the original Bilsteins for shocks - I may have to get to this before my drive back to AZ through Yosemite's Tioga pass and the Bristle cone area mid Oct to be safe. Money spent backwards - but it could be a few months before I get to the suspension upgrade. ( ...not sure why desertgirl would drive the FJ40 when there will be an FZJ80 parked right next to it :)

[Desertdude]

A few more photos added HERE (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum99.html)

as promised the engine compartment

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[MaddBaggins]

Nice find Pasquale!
My engine compartment looked like that when I first got it. Not even close now, something about gunning it thru mud puddles :D

[Desertdude]

Thanks "A" - I look forward to getting some of that AZ mud on there with you...

[The BN Guy]

Doubt it's ever even seen a mud puddle much less a dirt road! Lots of potential there. Minus the bling factor of course.

[kevin]

What is the gage for that is mounted next to the transfer case lever?

[Desertdude]

it appears to be a very cheesey Altimiter/Barometer - cannot even read it from the driver position



This 80 has been dusted regularly :Wow1:

that life is over - on to it's new incarnation :wavey:

[The BN Guy]

This 80 has been dusted regularly :Wow1:


I knew a guy that would dust his Xterra - ARB, 32" SSR's, Spare tire carrier, roof rack, fiberglass fenders...was pathetic! Spend all that money and don't do anything with it. Then he went to school in Lubbuck. Home of red dirt! He was constantly dusting it out there. Then he traded it in on a 350Z.

[dmc]

Congrats Desertdude,

I recently returned to the Land Cruiser wagon world from the Taco world. As much as I loved my Tacoma I will say that the 80 series is far superior for an expedition vehicle. I look forward to the build up. First up is taking off the wood grain right? :Wow1:
dmc

[Desertdude]

Dave - I think we met in the parking lot at CruiseMoab05 waiting to run spider mesa?

Yeah the "wood grain" and the "gold" is so special - along with this cherry air freshener that reeks inside. :Wow1:

[Scott Brady]

Hey DMC, good to hear from you. We look forward to hearing more about your trip!


I recently returned to the Land Cruiser wagon world from the Taco world. As much as I loved my Tacoma I will say that the 80 series is far superior for an expedition vehicle.
dmc

Interesting comments. Would you mind elaborating a bit on the conclusion, specific areas you felt the 80 is far superior, etc.

I am starting another thread, to keep this on topic... :)

HERE IS THE OTHER THREAD (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154)

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale, your truck looks great! It's going to be weird seeing you in something other than the Taco. You know, that first impression.

It looks great except that bling will get you teased out of the DV trip so de-blinging is the first mod! hehe

The underbelly looks cleaner than my '03!

James

[Desertdude]

Hey James thanks for stopping by;) I hope to have this 80 ready and bling-less for DV06 - The Tacoma will still rock and roll too :D

What really persuaded my on this purchase was how clean it was - and how nice it will be to work on

[ShottsCruisers]

Hey, Dude...AWESOME....and, if you see another one let me know. I too am looking for an immediate buy on a '97 w'lockers. The '93 is going to the kids.

[flyingwil]

Wow That thing looks great! :Wow1: . I think it is lacking one thing though, the desert pin striping! You should be able to run it out to the coves and have some nice desert pinstriping added for the price of the gas!

Sweet ride, and it will be fun to watch this cruiser evolve into a real rig! :luxhello:

[Desertdude]

hey Thanks! Yeah I guess desert pin striping might turn out to be the first mod... :D
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After talking with Hiltoper and his plans for a possible diesel motor exchange - this could be the future mod for this 80 after approx. 2-3 years of use. I could then join the ranks of biodiesel - staying current with the changing trends of motor fuel -while enjoying this legend vehicle ;)

I just read a tip on removing badging from automobiles - heat gun and dental floss - sounds like an easy one - I am one it!

[kcowyo]

I just read a tip on removing badging from automobiles - heat gun and dental floss - sounds like an easy one - I am one it!

Dude - I did this on my T100 and I have a few pics of the process, but they're saved on my computer at home and I'm obviously hard at work right now. I'll post pics later tonight but if you're starting to gather stuff I highly encourage you to run to the hardware store and pick up a can of 3M Adhesive Remover.

I pulled my tailgate completely off, to save my back muscles, and laid it out on my work bench. I used a hairdyer to heat the emblems. Then I sprayed one edge with the 3M remover. I used a plastic scraper that looks like a tongue depressor to start prying up one corner. The best suggestion I can offer is to let the 3M soak for a few minutes before scraping the glue residue away, don't rush it!

The T100 had a 5 inch tall and tailgate wide banner emblem so it took about 2 hours from start to finish. Dental floss, wrapped around 2 pencils like a small saw, will work on small emblems but a small plastic scraper, even a credit card will work much better. Be sure your emblems are glued and not held by clips before you start this! I'll post pics later -

- K.C.

[Desertdude]

Thanks KC - there are two gold ("special edition) bars glued up front where it used to have a lamanate of script writing - the gold bars have to go - the tailgate has a gold Toyota logo on it - it has to go - and two camary gold badges on the lower dash near the shifter - has to go.

I will hang back for a few days untill I see your photos - I appreciate the tips - and yes slow is the only way to go on this surgery

[Scott Brady]

Oh man Pasquale, you dont have to deal with just chrome :smilies27 , but GOLD :smileeek:

[Desertdude]

Scott - The way I feel about gold is the way you feel about chrome :smileeek:

Gold is my Kriptonite :Wow1:

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the lights even have gold/yellow circles of lamainate on there so the lights glow gold - I feel like I am in a Mike Myers movie :D

[Scott Brady]

Oh crap that is funny. :xxrotflma

Must... killl... the... chrome... http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/armed/ar15.gif

[Desertdude]

Now that is funny! :xxrotflma :xxrotflma

[flyingwil]

oK so not to hijack your post... whats your first mod going to be besides anti-bling?

[kcowyo]

Thanks KC - there are two gold ("special edition) bars glued up front where it used to have a lamanate of script writing - the gold bars have to go - the tailgate has a gold Toyota logo on it - it has to go - and two camary gold badges on the lower dash near the shifter - has to go.

I will hang back for a few days untill I see your photos - I appreciate the tips - and yes slow is the only way to go on this surgery

That's a lot of gold! Who pimped your ride? :p ;)

I've attached a few pics from my debadging experience. Had I not rushed the 3M remover, I wouldn't have had as much glue residue to deal with as in pic 4.5. Lots of going back over it with 3M to get it clean. Afterwards I still wound up buffing the tailgate to get rid of the last visible swirlies, but at least there was no paint fade. That decal was HUGE.

I never cared for the chrome T100 emblems on the doors either, so they're gone. Now I'm constantly in stealth mode! :cool:

[Desertdude]

oK so not to hijack your post... whats your first mod going to be besides anti-bling?

Something like this...

(1) CDL pin7 and switch install + cup holder + husky liner mats ;)
(2) Hanna Sliders
(3) Safari Snorkel
(4) dif breather extensions
(5) OME suspension
(6) 33" or 35"tires - depending
(7) ARB deluxe front bumper + winch
(8) Hanna rear bumper tire/can carrier
(9) ARB lockers/re-gearing
(10) skid plates
(11) duel batteries - HR isolator
(12) engel
(13) drawer system
(14) shower heater
(15) CO2
(16) Welder
(17) the rest -

[Desertdude]

That's a lot of gold! Who pimped your ride?


I think his name was GoldMember something about a bizarre smelting accident...

Thanks for those pics - very clean job in the end - I can see that the adhesive remover will be a key ingredient

it does not hurt ths finish by the looks of your photos

I also have to get rid of that "Cherry air freshener smell" EEEEEK!

I nice trip over Tioga pass Yosemite next week should take care of it :)

[Scott Brady]

Something like this...

(1) CDL pin7 and switch install + cup holder + husky liner mats ;)
(2) Hanna Sliders
(3) Safari Snorkel
(4) dif breather extensions
(5) OME suspension
(6) 33" or 35"tires - depending
(7) ARB deluxe front bumper + winch
(8) Hanna rear bumper tire/can carrier
(9) ARB lockers/re-gearing
(10) skid plates
(11) duel batteries - HR isolator
(12) engel
(13) drawer system
(14) shower heater
(15) CO2
(16) Welder
(17) the rest -

Great list. I think it would be fun to mess with the order a bit. Do all of the expedition camping mods, but leave the truck stock. It would be a sleeper, and would be fun to document just how much those trucks can do.

[Desertdude]

yes! nothing in stone and as always- as time and $$ permits

I've wheeled with stock 80's in the mountains and canyons of Death Valley, and the slick rocks of Moab - slap on a set of sliders and go - :D

On this Particular 80 the PO has installed lower exhaust items - and a hide a hitch - those severely lower the ground clearance - the other thing that comes to mind are the mud flaps and side moldings trails love em for breakfast.

Drove around town a bit yesterday - the stock suspension leaves much to be desired even with upgraded bilsteins installed by the PO - the OME suspension lift/upgrade will be a safety upgrade more than trail necessity...

[Scott Brady]

I understand about the OME suspension. I took my Trooper on one trail ride and the next weekend, the stock suspension was on the garage floor.

[Desertdude]

It is really interesting to me how Toyota can place such an inferior suspension on an otherwise very capable vehicle - Could be just this one - It has a side to side motion - perhaps caused by light springs and the sway bar trying its best to correct the motion - gets me sea sick :)

Spending many hours reading on the various pros and cons suspension/lift options - almost there...

I will offer this - it is a plush ride :victory:

[Scott Brady]

Amigo,

I had the very same issue with the Trooper. Soft rolling down the highway, but uncontrollable pitch and sway off-road. Like you said, it made me sick.

The OME was a literal night and day difference. In fact, even with the 1.5" lift, I ran no swaybar for several years. OME Medium springs, Firm OME shocks.

[datrupr]

Scott, I know what you mean by the Trooper. However, my suspension is 105K old and thus about 1" lower than it should be and it bounds like nobodys business..... repetedly. It is gone right after I get the tires. I can put it in the pile 'o' parts on Scotts floor. :D

[Scott Brady]

Aaron,

You wont believe the difference it will make. When I first started using the Trooper, I was dissapointed by the payload (~900 lbs.). After some research, and discussion with some enthusiasts in Australia, it just came down to the spring rates. The Jackaroo have firmer, higher capacity springs, and also 500 lbs. higher payload rating... Which is a lot!

[datrupr]

Scott, I did not know that. That is amazing. See, they make these outstanding vehcles and are very capable in stock form, but for the US market they "tune down" the suspension for better on road performance. Which actually makes sense because the buyers of these $40,000+ vehicles really don't take them off road. Like they do in most other parts of the world.

I did not know that I could increase my payload by that much with a suspension upgrade.

[ShottsCruisers]

It is really interesting to me how Toyota can place such an inferior suspension on an otherwise very capable vehicle - Could be just this one - It has a side to side motion - perhaps caused by light springs and the sway bar trying its best to correct the motion - gets me sea sick :)

Spending many hours reading on the various pros and cons suspension/lift options - almost there...

I will offer this - it is a plush ride :victory:

I'll input this Dude (if I can?): While a lift like a $3000 Slee 6" is the dream, it's amazing how capable and much less a 4" costs for the 80. A 4" drops right in while a 6" is A TON of work to complete. Just make sure you get L-series shocks regardless.

[Desertdude]

Good advice John - I and always seduced by the bigness of the 6 " 37 inch tire look and what it is capable of. But reality is I will want to also drive this on the road - I am leaning towards the 4 inch - but this could change :)

[ShottsCruisers]

Good advice John - I and always seduced by the bigness of the 6 " 37 inch tire look and what it is capable of. But reality is I will want to also drive this on the road - I am leaning towards the 4 inch - but this could change :)

Talk to Slee. I think he prefers 35's even with his 6". With 37's the bumpstops need to be lowered more which reduces flex. ???

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale, I think the 6" takes it out of the realm of daily driver/ use. IMO

With OME Heavies, you are at the limit of fitting into many parking garages and what a sucky, heart-stopping thing that is to be afraid of car parks! hahaha

Also, freeway handling issues should be accounted for. I know Slee engineered it right, and I know it performs on the Rubicon but for mixed use... I would go 4" max.

Plus, you loose the beautiful stock control arms. Those things are so amazing to me, I would have a very hard time swapping those beautiful castings with tube.

[Desertdude]

Good input James - After all the heavy reading, it looks like I am leaning towards the 4" with 35's - there is always time to step up a few years down the road ;)

[Scott Brady]

That seems to be a great combination Pasquale. I am always impressed by how Johns truck performs.

[ShottsCruisers]

That seems to be a great combination Pasquale. I am always impressed by how Johns truck performs.

Though Dude can better my truck by opting for the J-springs. No packers needed though 15mm up front will level it out better. (none in the back)

[dejablu311]

Something like this...

(1) CDL pin7 and switch install + cup holder + husky liner mats ;)
(2) Hanna Sliders
(3) Safari Snorkel
(4) dif breather extensions
(5) OME suspension
(6) 33" or 35"tires - depending
(7) ARB deluxe front bumper + winch
(8) Hanna rear bumper tire/can carrier
(9) ARB lockers/re-gearing
(10) skid plates
(11) duel batteries - HR isolator
(12) engel
(13) drawer system
(14) shower heater
(15) CO2
(16) Welder
(17) the rest -

sounds like exactly what i have planned for mine. I like the idea of the shower idea. How exactly do you plan to make that work? Is there a portable unit designed for that purpose? Nice lookin 80 though. I hope i find one that nice.

[Desertdude]

I am installing the Helton Water System (http://www.helton.com.au/hot%20water%20system.htm) in my Tacoma for testing - if it works out well I will use on in the 80. This unit will heat the water to the temp of the thermostat - it includes a blending valve for adjustment of the hot and cold water and installs under the hood - I will use quick disconnects near the front bumper for easy on and off for the hoses.

[Scott Brady]

Great idea! Cant wait to hear how it performes :victory:

[Dirk]

Sorry guys, I am late to this party. One thought and comment. Having looked at the pics of the undercarriage of that nice, black 80, you Southwestern folk should never be allowed to complain about your rigs under any circumstance. I cannot believe how the factory paint still looks almost brand new on the axle. You guys may take that for granted, but it blows my mind! After half a winter here, our vehicles look much worse . Count your Land Cruiser blessings gentleman. My next 80 is coming from AZ or CA.

[Life_in_4Lo]

OK Pasquale, it's been long enough. We need some updates!
De-blinging? Pine-air fresh bomb to kill the Cherry smell? Lifted? We need updates! :lurk: :beer:

[Desertdude]

Just to clarify true 40th aniversary 80's came in two colors one which is 6M1 Dark Emeral Pearl, and 1B2 Antique Sage Pearl

All though it looks Black in the photos - Mine is the Dark Emeral Pearl :D

The 80 landed back in AZ from CA on an A-1 transport truck two weeks ago. I have a laundry list ( see below) in a group by at cruiseroutfitters and we will see how that turns out. I am on the list at Ken Hannas for the new Hanna rear bumper, and sliders. The 80 is tucked in the garage next. to the FJ40 - I have all the windows down and I am letting the airing out process happen naturally - I hope to be back out to AZ before xmas to start the de blinging of the gold - but Baja is calling and the de bling process may have to wait a bit... :elkgrin:

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Part # OME80J J-Series Replacement Suspension 3.5"-4" Lift
2 - OME 850J Front Coil Spring
2 - N73L Front Nitrocharger Shock Absorbers (Extended Length)
2 - OME 863J Rear Coil Spring
2 - N74L Rear Nitrocharger Shock Absorbers (Extended Length)
1 - OME CA77B Caster Correction Kit
1 - OME SD24 Steering Damper

( still undesided on heavies front and rear, still collecting data)

Part # ARB SS81F 80 Series Snorkel

Part # ARB 341105 80 Series Winch Bar

Part # ARB ARB207D ARB Recovery Shackles

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale,
You know, since you are in the middle (half bling, half clean) you could go teh other way and just be crazy blingin'!! hahaha Hey, everyone would know it was you tho!

I went with the Heavies all around. Initially, I was going to do J springs but both Ben (at Slee offroad) and Andy P recommended Heavies or Slee 4". Since the 4" requires alot more $$ to do up correctly I went Heavies.
However, I've read alot of people were happy w/ J's so...

It's gonna be fun at DV! Can't wait to see your generator...er, I mean your 80 :D

[blupaddler]

So, you're going to go with the J's? Did you decide against the Slee 4" lift? I have heard good things about Slee's Caster Correction Plates. But, I think they need at least 3-4" of lift. Are you still going with the 35" tires too? Am I asking too many questions........


Good call on Hanna's. I really like his stuff. Real quality work. I would have gotten his sliders, but I got mine from a friend for half the price.

:ylsmoke:

[Desertdude]

I am still vacillating between the J's and or slees 4" - I am trying to wrap my head around the differences - and the very subjective opinions I am receiving from actual real world use. I have a few more folks to speak with before the actual purchase. The issue for me is added weight ( armor and gear load) after the re-suspension work and the possibility of future sagging.

Never too many questions - I have read re read and asked almost everyone at I like the bold look and added height of the 35" tires.

[Desertdude]

I am still vacillating between the J's and or slees 4" - I am trying to wrap my head around the differences - and the very subjective opinions I am receiving from actual real world use. The issue for me is added weight ( armor and gear load) after the re-suspension work and the possibility of future sagging.

Never too many questions - I have read re read tons of info and asked almost everyone at SnT :D The nice thing is I could look and see how things were set up and how the suspension is performing at Pismo...

I like the bold look and added height of the 35" tires. But I would like to drive this everyday down the road. So the trade offs begin ;)

Kens stuff was an easy call for me. I have a few more folks to speak with before the actual purchase. :smileeek:

[ShottsCruisers]

I am still vacillating between the J's and or slees 4" - I am trying to wrap my head around the differences - and the very subjective opinions I am receiving from actual real world use. The issue for me is added weight ( armor and gear load) after the re-suspension work and the possibility of future sagging.

Never too many questions - I have read re read tons of info and asked almost everyone at SnT :D The nice thing is I could look and see how things were set up and how the suspension is performing at Pismo...

I like the bold look and added height of the 35" tires. But I would like to drive this everyday down the road. So the trade offs begin ;)

Kens stuff was an easy call for me. I have a few more folks to speak with before the actual purchase. :smileeek:

Both should support your gear just fine. The main diff? 25% added stiffness in Slee's springs vs OME. You're the only one who could know what you like. I couldn't handle the stiff ride but that's ME. WAIT, my ride wil be stiff too. J-springs are HEAVY and my truck will be un-loaded. Wish they had medium J-springs.

[Desertdude]

John, thanks for your input. I wonder if I would enjoy that added stiffness? Like the donahoe/deavers on the Tacoma?

Be nice to do it only once but... hey its only money right? :D

[ShottsCruisers]

John, thanks for your input. I wonder if I would enjoy that added stiffness? Like the donahoe/deavers on the Tacoma?


Yep, one-up in stiffness is good. That'd be like having OME vs a stock 80. Going to OME-HEAVY is like two-up from stock. Slee 4" is stiffer yet.
So, not sure of the Taco strategy is comparable. :D

I do know my 93 has heavy OME (850/863) and unloaded it's TOOOO stiff! Monkey me is putting the same on the Lexus now. I just want the taller springs J's so heavy it is.. I guess we'll pay again in the butt!

[clarkrw3]

You are welcome to drive my 6" when in town...at any of the sonic meets or whatever. I love the spring rate (I know shotts doesn't) but I think it is perfect. Much better on and off road then my dad's 2.5 med springs. It is still pretty supple on road and doesn't sway when taking corners. I have had many people marvel at the ride being so tall thinking that it was just right. I guess if it flexes well off road and drives great on road I don't see the problem with the rates. Also consider that you will be running the hanna rear bumper which is a good bit heavier than the slee rear bumper. Also the nice thing with the slee is that it sits level without the futsing.
You might want to look at the slee step sliders....I got them for the wife and I now LOVE them and am so glad i went with them. They don't stick out much and and nice for smaller people trying to get in and out of the truck and look great.

My daily driver is a clubsport 330ci so I am use to a stiffer ride I guess...but I still think the spring rate is perfect on the slee springs.

[ShottsCruisers]

You are welcome to drive my 6" when in town...at any of the sonic meets or whatever. I love the spring rate (I know shotts doesn't) but I think it is perfect. Much better on and off road then my dad's 2.5 med springs. It is still pretty supple on road and doesn't sway when taking corners. I have had many people marvel at the ride being so tall thinking that it was just right. I guess if it flexes well off road and drives great on road I don't see the problem with the rates. Also consider that you will be running the hanna rear bumper which is a good bit heavier than the slee rear bumper. Also the nice thing with the slee is that it sits level without the futsing.
You might want to look at the slee step sliders....I got them for the wife and I now LOVE them and am so glad i went with them. They don't stick out much and and nice for smaller people trying to get in and out of the truck and look great.

You know what....it just dwaned on me that this thread is DDudes buildup thread...not mine. :rolleyes:

Oh boy....I gotcha now. If I would have loaded the Lexus up (like Dude is) I might a snagged the 6" lift myself.

I guess I beter watch the thread headers. :D

[Desertdude]

Thanks clarkrw3 I may take you up on that offer

Its all good John - we are all sharing info so we all get what we want in the end.

I am still in the reading and asking stage so any real world info is good info.

I like all the extra goods Slee includes in his 4" kit - which does not come with OME heavy kit

as we were... :ylsmoke:

[ShottsCruisers]

Thanks clarkrw3 I may take you up on that offer

Its all good John - we are all sharing info so we all get what we want in the end.

***Thanks...BUT...unless I pay attention to who's buildup one's referring I might give a BONEHEAD answer. :rolleyes:

I am still in the reading and asking stage so any real world info is good info.

I like all the extra goods Slee includes in his 4" kit - which does not come with OME heavy kit

***For less spring rate (which YOU may not want...less rate) you can buy the same kit, just with J-springs vs Slee springs. The rest is the same. This is what my rig is. Though I tried to get away without panhard and control arm adjusts, and a CV front d-shaft, I couldn't. Basically, I've now bought the Slee 4" lift but with a softer ride. :)

as we were... :ylsmoke:

Some comments above.

[Desertdude]

***For less spring rate (which YOU may not want...less rate) you can buy the same kit, just with J-springs vs Slee springs. The rest is the same. This is what my rig is. Though I tried to get away without panhard and control arm adjusts, and a CV front d-shaft, I couldn't. Basically, I've now bought the Slee 4" lift but with a softer ride.


enter J/K - clear as mud now :D


***Thanks...BUT...unless I pay attention to who's buildup one's referring I might give a BONEHEAD answer.

truer words were never spoken

I have a clearer view of my direction after speaking with ToolsRus, which is basically to stay on course with the OME J heavies, and see how it drives. Add the correction items one by one if needed. Kevin did suggest to go to the L shocks in the back.

[clarkrw3]

I have a clearer view of my direction after speaking with ToolsRus, which is basically to stay on course with the OME J heavies, and see how it drives. Add the correction items one by one if needed. Kevin did suggest to go to the L shocks in the back.
Yes, kevin doesn't like them either....however the person that he wheeled with that had the slee springs were the rear heavies...which IMO are too heavy for difficult wheeling. (at least that is what he told me at our last meet) He said he would be interested to see how mine flex on the trail, but as we are about ready to have a baby any day I am not allowed vary far away from home these days.
I guess by how strongly I feel about the slee's you would think I am a paid sales person.....I'm not!!! but I really love them!

[Scott Brady]

I guess by how strongly I feel about the slee's you would think I am a paid sales person.....I'm not!!! but I really love them!

You are just one of the many happy Slee customers. He is a good man.

[Desertdude]

Gee lucky me! I get the first post by our esteemed CSC Prez. Welcome Bman :wavey:

Don't you worry to much about that 40 :sport_box - it is getting and Orion along with a pair of Arbs and fuel injection - the plan is - the 40 on the Rubicon in August 06 with my Norcal buds...
you may want to join in :camping:

Glad your here we could use some CB info in the other section ;)

[Desertdude]

I am not opposed to the 6" slee lift and 37" tires - I am just wanting to keep a LCG - for riding on the highways - So I am staying with a basic 4" and 35" - But I am sure I could be seduced when I see your rig in person :D

I know how you feel when something is just right - this is how I feel about the Donahoe Coilovers in my Tacoma - just buy them and forgetaboutit :ar15:

Too many choices for the 80 :)

[BMAN]

Gee lucky me! I get the first post by our esteemed CSC Prez. Welcome Bman :wavey:

Don't you worry to much about that 40 :sport_box - it is getting and Orion along with a pair of Arbs and fuel injection - the plan is - the 40 on the Rubicon in August 06 with my Norcal buds...
you may want to join in :camping:

Glad your here we could use some CB info in the other section ;)


Ooh ooh I'm such a CB tech whore lately aren't I? Just had to give ya some **** bro... wouldn't seem right if I didn't. I see a few CSC members here. Thanks to Alvin for the headsup on this site.

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale,
Unless you get a gold bullbar (w/Camry Limited Edition badging), I remain unimpressed :D :smilies27

I saw the 6" Slee setup perform at the Rubicon- it flexes like a mofo and works great from my impressions.

I want to go Slee 4" eventually- in a couple yrs

[Desertdude]

Unless you get a gold bullbar (w/Camry Limited Edition badging), I remain unimpressed

I am smelting all the gold bling down and sending it to you for new 80 series key fobs :D

Looking forward to wheeling with you at DVDaze06 in our new rigs :victory:

[clarkrw3]

I saw the 6" Slee setup perform at the Rubicon- it flexes like a mofo and works great from my impressions. That's all I was trying to say:exclaim:
Wasn't someone just talking about how everyone on Mud 80 section are a bunch of lemmings? Well OME is the cliff (med/heavy/J).

Looking forward to wheeling with you at DVDaze06 in our new rigs
I am on the waitlist for DVDaze but I think I am like number 5 so I will most likely have to wait till 07 :(

[Life_in_4Lo]

I am smelting all the gold bling down

LOL Hilarious :D I can see you pouring little ingots already! lol

clark,
dont harsh on Mud too much, I mean not many choices besides OME. (I cannot practically go higher than OME heavy. Once I eventually go Slee4, it will kill some of the usability for me.)

Lots of Mud guys are doing the Slee 4 & 6 too... Arb bullbar, slee rr bumper... watch out I think you are in freefall w/ 100 of your closest friends ;)

[clarkrw3]

I actually wasn't "personally" saying anything about Mud....I love mud and spend WAY too much time over there. I was refering to comments on this board about mud by some of the 80 guys that are on both. And I see both sides.

Believe me I am in free fall big time!!! :hehe:

[Desertdude]

Some of my new junk will be arriving next week at a central location in AZ ( thanks to ToolsRus - Kevin) and Kurt at cruiseroutfitters (http://www.cruiseroutfitters.com)

The installs will have to wait cause I will be out of the country until late Jan

http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/morecowbell.jpg


::::

[ShottsCruisers]

Some of my new junk will be arriving next week at a central location in AZ ( thanks to ToolsRus - Kevin) and Kurt at cruiseroutfitters (http://www.cruiseroutfitters.com)

The installs will have to wait cause I will be out of the country until late Jan


::::

HEY DUDE...YA CAN'T DROP A BOMB LIKE THAT AND LEAVE US HANGING! WHAT DID YOU ORDER. :Wow1:

[GeoRoss]

Pasquale,
Duuuudddee, I can't wait that long. :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:. I am hoping to get my cowbell(s) from Kurt installed around the new year. I'll let you know how it goes though. Enjoy Baja.

Ross


Some of my new junk will be arriving next week at a central location in AZ ( thanks to ToolsRus - Kevin) and Kurt at cruiseroutfitters (http://www.cruiseroutfitters.com)

The installs will have to wait cause I will be out of the country until late Jan

http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/morecowbell.jpg


:::::jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

[Desertdude]

HEY DUDE...YA CAN'T DROP A BOMB LIKE THAT AND LEAVE US HANGING! WHAT DID YOU ORDER. :Wow1:

Oh yes i can :gunt:

Snorkel

OME - J's

Arb front bumper

and a few other goodies to me mentioned at a later date :)

I got Baja on my mind :jumping:

[Desertdude]

Pasquale,
Duuuudddee, I can't wait that long. :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:. I am hoping to get my cowbell(s) from Kurt installed around the new year. I'll let you know how it goes though. Enjoy Baja.
Ross :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

You lucky dog - I have to get busy on my Tacoma :ar15: before Xmas

See you when we get back!

[ShottsCruisers]

Oh yes i can :gunt:

Snorkel

OME - J's

Arb front bumper

and a few other goodies to me mentioned at a later date :)

I got Baja on my mind :jumping:

OK, that's enough info. I'll letcha slide. :D

[Desertdude]

OK, that's enough info. I'll letcha slide. :D

heh heh heh - thanks!

thinking of either going your way and installing the rest of the Slee 4" kit - or going full slee 4" " the more I learn the less I know " :ylsmoke:

[Scott Brady]

That is the challenge with all of this. Filtering the hype from the function. I am also frequently amazed with how individual experiences can vary so broadly. It took me nearly 30 minutes around a campfire to convince a guy that a 6" body lift is a bad idea. Old beliefs die hard.

I am going to really enjoy following your build. I think of the 80 series often. Not sure how long I can resist :)

[clarkrw3]

resistance is futile....

[Desertdude]

Orderd a pile of stuff from Slee (http://sleeoffroad.com/) today Should ship out mid next week

And a few things from Ken Hanna :)

Let the work begin :sport_box

[blupaddler]

:clapsmile :clapsmile :clapsmile








Congrats Pasquale!!!
When do we find out what lift you decided to go with?
Or, are you just going to do two pics and that's all? One before and one after, with EVERYTHING on.
:)





btw...how was your "vacation"

[Desertdude]

I am still on Vacation in Maui - so ordering mod parts is easy :)

I decided because I will be loading the 80 quite a bit for Alaska but still want on road drivability I went with Slee's 4" bolt in kit (http://sleeoffroad.com/products/80_suspension.htm) Slee includes many other extra parts needed to correct the lift...

25% stiffer than OME J's kit I now have for sale :jumping:

[Life_in_4Lo]

I'm disappointed...















no gold plated springs?:gunt: LOL

Sounds great, your rig is going to be unstoppable!

what are you doing with your stock front control arms? hmmmm? :) yeah gotta be a vulture, hehe.

[blupaddler]

WOW!!!

Pasquale, that's really cool! I will have to take a ride in your 4" when it is complete. I have really been thinking about that route lately. So, it was the stiffer springs, huh.

Maybe we should have a "modding" weekend?



Anyway...



STOP posting, walk away from the computer. Go out to the beach and order a margarita!!! Enjoy your vacation buddy!

[Desertdude]

James - I will be dipping the coils in gold when they arrive - the control arms go back to slee for core charge :)


Robb- yeah a modding weekend wil be awesome - lets do that rear drawer system!

Yes! - just taking a break in between swimming and rum drinks... heading back to the warm water right now for a night swim... :suning:

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale, you live the life of Riley! You are the DUDE!!
:ylsmoke:

post some pics when you guys do "mod week" :beer:

[Scott Brady]

Yes, I think we should change his name to just "The Dude"

It will encompass all of his dudeness qualities (DesertDude, BuilderDude, MusicDude, etc.) When we see him in person, he will be refered to as "your royal dudeness" :bowdown:

[blupaddler]

When addressing "the royal dudeness"...

Should we use a Spicoli accent?

[Desertdude]

"the Dude abides"

:bowdown:

[Desertdude]

We got started on the de-bling process - removed to DVD player the third and second row seats and all the seat belts - removed the front bumper and side steps ( thanks desertgirl :) inspecting underneath and in the engine compartment - most of my order from Sleeoffroad arrived :)

tearing down the front and rear axles - removed the diff's - sending the diff's up to Slee for re-gearing ( 4:88's) and ARB locker install - we will upgrade the brake rotors to australian slotted - and the pads to 100 series pads - new seals and check the birfields for wear - regrease all the parts.

We have days of work ahead of us - Slowy getting there :)

a few Photos (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum122.html)


http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/80-on-stands.jpg

[Desertdude]

I did Rick's ( landtank on mud) seat bracket mod (http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=46591) - I was able to gain almost 2 inches of extra leg room - took about two hours - well worth the time and $$

seat bracket PDF instructions (http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/Electric Seat Mod Installation Procedure.pdf)


:::::

[blupaddler]

Hey, NICE color!!! ;)


Wow, that brings back memories.
Probably a little late now, but be careful with those screws that hold the lock nut on the rear axle. I stripped two of them. :mad:

Let me know when you have a free weekend coming up, so we can do drawers, and maybe even tank. :Wow1:

[Life_in_4Lo]

wow Pasquale! You are really doing it up! Desertgirl too:wavey:

man, you're going to have it all done in a few days! great work and pics- look fwd to following the progress

[ShottsCruisers]

We got started on the de-bling process - removed to DVD player the third and second row seats and all the seat belts - removed the front bumper and side steps ( thanks desertgirl :) inspecting underneath and in the engine compartment - most of my order from Sleeoffroad arrived :)

tearing down the front and rear axles - removed the diff's - sending the diff's up to Slee for re-gearing ( 4:88's) and ARB locker install - we will upgrade the brake rotors to australian slotted - and the pads to 100 series pads - new seals and check the birfields for wear - regrease all the parts.

We have days of work ahead of us - Slowy getting there :)

a few Photos (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum122.html)




http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/80-on-stands.jpg

WOW...SENT THE PUMP'S TO SLEE FOR WORK? WOW!

[Desertdude]

WOW...SENT THE PUMP'S TO SLEE FOR WORK? WOW!

I have always had a "buy the best and cry once" philosophy

I would have driven up and spent the week in Golden but Knee surgery has thwarted that plan - doing the R&R ourselves I can get intimate with the 80 and see how it all works - if I get stuck on the trail I will know what to do

while I have it all apart -I am also going to upgrade to DBA rotors on all fours and 100 series pads on the front - (Thanks Robb)

[ShottsCruisers]

I have always had a "buy the best and cry once" philosophy

Why didn't you buy a 100-series then? :D

I would have driven up and spent the week in Golden but Knee surgery has thwarted that plan - doing the R&R ourselves I can get intimate with the 80 and see how it all works - if I get stuck on the trail I will know what to do

while I have it all apart -I am also going to upgrade to DBA rotors and 100 series on all fours -

Hey, it's good you can do a lot of your work. That saves. I'd consider the Slee pumpkin route if I could do my work. I'm praying that D/C shaft is bad. Pray for me? :smilies27

[blupaddler]

Ha!!! 100 Series!

:hehe: :xxrotflma

NOW that's funny!





Back on track...I thought you can only put 100 Series pads on the front? Or is there something I should know? :o




:D

[Scott Brady]

Looking great amigo! Please call me if I can help at all. Whatever I can do!

[Desertdude]

Back on track...I thought you can only put 100 Series pads on the front? Or is there something I should know? :o :D

Sorry Robb that was the narcotics typing - should have read rotors on all fours and 100 series pads in the front :)


Looking great amigo! Please call me if I can help at all. Whatever I can do!

Thanks! And thanks for that generous offer I am in a holding pattern until a few days from now... Waiting on the diffs :box:

[Life_in_4Lo]

I'm totally jealous Pasquale! I gotta do my brake pads too just cause it'll be a good excuse to look everything over before DV

It's not the mods, it's the knowledge that will save you in the middle of no-where. Great stuff Dude :beer: the photos are great

The Dude provides, we abide:ylsmoke: :beer:

[Desertdude]

It's not the mods, it's the knowledge that will save you in the middle of no-where.

Ain't it fun to work on your 80? - you are lucky you have Joe down south he is a world of knowledge ;)

While I have the 80 down this far the brakes will be a no brainer - I am looking froward to limping out to the garage today and starting the de greasing process - get stuff ready for the diff's when they return.

DVDAZE06 will be great this year a heard of 80 series down the trail :D

[Life_in_4Lo]

Yes Joe is great but you are well ahead of me on all the wrenching! take lots of pics :)


It will be good to have some paella again...:beer:

[Desertdude]

New shoes for the 80 - 315/75/R16 BFG MTR T/O KM's on stock rims -

Might have to airdown to back out of the garage...



:ylsmoke:

[blupaddler]

WOW!!!


How am I supposed to stay at the "small" 285/75 tire size with everyone going to the BIG sizes. All this temptation! Must resist...



So...Have you gotten stuff back from Slee yet?

:bowdown:

[Scott Brady]

:lurk:

[Desertdude]

Yes indeed - should prove to be a big day around the 80 series garage - the front and rear axles are completely apart and de-greased ( thanks to desertgirl's work last week) - the diffs arrive late today or tomorrow from Slee

Todays plan is to repack all the bearings with new grease - load in all the new seals and bearings - install the new brake rotors on the rear

Repack the birfields and install the new seals and repacked new trunion bearings - making the axles ready for the diff arrival -

When diffs arrive - install those along with the axles and front brake rotors - install new brake pads front and rear - check all bolts and nuts - and wheel bearing preload - bleed/test/adjust brakes

>>>>> :exclaim: Fill the diffs with gear oil :exclaim: <<<<<<

good days work there - on one leg :Wow1:

Photos to follow...

[Life_in_4Lo]

Can't wait to see the rig Pasquale! Kinda sad I won't see the bling in person:p instead it will be a beast on 35's!

[Desertdude]

Thanks James! Have to hustle if I want to drive the 80 at DVDAZE 06 :gunt:

Photos of todays progress - HERE
(http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum125.html)

the diff's arrived late today - they go in first thing tomorrow - along with the front rotors and brake pads :jumping:

[blupaddler]

Ohhhh, does that bring back memories!!!

Thanks for the updates. :)

[Desertdude]

Greasing wheel bearings by hand always brings back memories for me too. I learned how at a very young age and used this all through my auto ownership - it is funny how certain thing you learn while working on a vehicle you never forget - and the bonding that can happen between two people working on a common goal with a vehicle...

The Slee 4" kit I purchased is the bolt on kit - I choose this kit because it came complete with both front and rear pan-hard rods and rear upper arms welded with new adjusters on ( cleaned and painted) very professionally done. This kit also comes with the Double Cardon front drive shaft -

I took the 80 out for a maiden lifted voyage and all I can say is this 80 is BURLEY! The ride is firm but comfortable - very stable on turns and at high speeds on the pavement ( will hit the trail in a day or so for more testing) I have some minor tweaking left to do with the rear upper control arms and LSP & BV.

Once I get more weight in the 80 I can dial this in more precisely.

On to the ARB locker airlines/compressor - and electronics :luxhello:

More Photos HERE (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum127.html)

[Scott Brady]

http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2006-03-04%2007.33.35%20-0800/Image-8691CEADAB9311DA.jpg

Beautiful Truck Pasquale. Very impressive!

Are the bumpstop extensions variable to tire size? For example, with the 4" kit and 315 tires, is that the optimal bumpstop?

Slee really makes a fantastic kit, after seeing it in person.

[DaktariEd]

Wow! Pasquale, that is a great looking vehicle!
:luxhello:
Ed

(PS, How's the knee doin'?)

[Scott Brady]

Oh, and what are the plans for locker enagagement? Let me know if I can help at all with aquiring or installing the switch.

[DesertRose]

Wow, Pasquale & Christine - can't wait to see it in person. That's really going to be an ultimate outback Cruiser!

[Life_in_4Lo]

Man, looks SO sweet!

We'll have to spend some quality time on the desert floor staring up at the undercarriage! :jumping:
Can't wait to geek-out on your rig man! hahaa

[blupaddler]

:clapsmile :clapsmile :clapsmile :clapsmile :clapsmile


Very nice Pasquale!

That 4" kit is really well thought out and put together.

[Desertdude]

Thanks Scot t- Roseann - James and Robb for the kind words!

Kristina and I have been working non stop on the maintenance and the modified installs - many more things left to do before DVdaze06 next week...

Here (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum128.html) are a few photos of the Snorkel install - ARB compressor/Slee manifold - we wired the ARB lockers to the OEM switch - I will at a later date hook this into the OEM locker panel lights to let us know when it is engaged - also while we have the dash apart we installed OEM aux light switch OEM sub-tank switch - and OEM CDL switch

Next up: 2M radio and CB install - dual batteries - Aux fuse block -hellroaring isolator/combiner - Aux. 12v outlets

[Scott Brady]

Christina is sooooo cool. It is great to see her in the pictures, doing some fun mod.:victory:

I cant wait to ride along in this truck on the trail and do some detailed evalution. It will help me make my next vehicle purchase decision.

[Desertdude]

Yes Kristina has been an essential part of the work - without here spirit and abilities this would take much longer and be less fun - and she now knows the inner workings on the vehicle

You bet you :jumping: and I will be riding and covering this truck inside and out- before it gets too many desert pin stripes :)

[BajaTaco]

SawEEET!! Looks incredible. This is a very fun buildup thread indeed. It's exciting to think that U 2 will be headed out to Utah in this beast in only a short while... :jumping:


Gotta love the red rock peeking out in this pic...

http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2006-03-04%2007.33.35%20-0800/Image-8691CEADAB9311DA.jpg


... LOL, and the red dirt stain on the block wall... teeheheeheee - it's quite cliffdwellingesque!

[Desertdude]

heh heh heh - that is Camel head in the background - good eye Chris -

We are heading to DV this weekend for a trip next week if all stays on track :) a nice pre test for Moab and beyond :ylsmoke:

[BajaTaco]

heh heh heh - that is Camel head in the background - good eye Chris -

We are heading to DV this weekend for a trip next week if all stays on track :) a nice pre test for Moab and beyond :ylsmoke:

Woops! I was thinking Moab, but it's DV... that's right. I guess you will be doing Moab in May.

[AndrewP]

Your truck is looking really good Pasquale. I thought I would post up here since I'm looking forward to seeing you and Desert Girl next week in Death Valley. The long term weather forcast is favorable, so hopefully you won't get too much mud on your truck! It's a good thing mine is fully pin-striped, otherwise they would be hard to tell apart. See you soon.

[Desertdude]

Andrew - what a pleasure to have you stop by! Thanks for the kind words on the 80 - It was your DV trip last year that ispired us to invest in the legend - It will not be long before body finish will be just right :)

Desertgirl and I are working hard to get the truck up to snuff for the trip - a few more days and we will be close - Hanna armor is said to show up Monday - so we might make it in time ;)

Catch you next week!!! :jumping:

[Hltoppr]

I bet you could sell that engine for about the same $$ as a 1HD-T....since you're doing some mods....

Just a thought. :ylsmoke:

Lookin' Great!

-H-

[blupaddler]

Pasquale,


Have you mounted your 2m yet? Where are you planning on mounting it? Also, where are you going to mount the antenna?

I have been going back and forth between the roof and either the hood or bull bar. The roof would give me a good base and reception/transmiting qualities. Just like Al. He has the best reception of the group and his is mounted to the roof. The hood/bull bar would be easiest. Especially doing a mount a-la-BajaTaco.

:confused:


BTW your 80 looks really good!

[Echo_29]

Before Death Valley
http://static.flickr.com/35/114890138_472237f661.jpg

and climbing South Park Canyon after a little Hunter Mountain mud
http://static.flickr.com/50/114886812_72bbd54e90.jpg

[Scott Brady]

Echo29, that is a killer shot!

http://static.flickr.com/50/114886812_72bbd54e90.jpg

[Desertdude]

Great photos Echo29 ;)

For those that really know Death Valley is no mall cruise - the toughest washboard ( beyond Baja) and old mining roads that you can barely fit on. With incredible drop offs riding on staked rock edges.

This was the shake down maiden voyage for the 80 and I can say is - it performed with great excellence - no issues and in superb comfort the whole way

More great photos to follow :clapsmile

BTW that is a 3 ton rated log bridge that is hanging on the edge of a steep dropoff - not for the faint heart - photos by Kristina

[blupaddler]

Echo, Scott, if I am correct...Welcome to the forum!

And as Scott said, VERY nice pics!!!

:clapsmile




Pasquale,
I was wondering whose 80 that was on the pics you guys were sharing from DV. I just didn't think you had gotten a rear bumper yet.
Nice lights!

The 80 is looking REALLY good! How did the roof-tent work in the cold, and being up that high.

[datrupr]

Lookin very sweet Dude! Great pics, and an awesome rig!

[ShottsCruisers]

That's a FREAKY spot! :smileeek:

[Desertdude]

it is a very freaky spot - huge potential for error and certain death :bowdown:

Robb - the tent performed great in the high altitude cold - besides we have a 12v electric blanket for these occasions ;)

Note on the Maggiolina tent: One morning we woke up to rain - all we had to do was crank down the tent and hang out behind the 80 on the tailgate eating breakfast and watching the rain - nothing to wipe -clean- dry or cover... this is a great feature of this model.

We were able to swing by Ken Hanna's on the Monday before the DV trip and get sliders and the rear bumper - Ken was really pushing for us and came through - his products are pure HannaQuality

More photos to follow...

[Mlachica]

Desertdude,

Hats off to you and desertgirl! Very outstanding rigS! :bowdown: Impressive to say the least. This is an excellent thread for me to use as a motivator for my brother - I'm trying to get him to buy a TLC. I look forward to a wheeling trip sometime.

:archaeolo

Mark

[clarkrw3]

Your rig looks great:Wow1: what a transformation....so when are you going to get it down to one of the CSC meetings??? Where did you get your rope and fairlead? Also where are all the pics from DV06...I am dying to see the pics and the new video.

[blupaddler]

Pasquale,


Your 80 has to be one of the fastest AND nicest (sp?) builds I have had the pleasure of seeing (well, not yet...but hopefully soon).


:victory:

[Desertdude]

Mlachica -thanks for the kind words

clarkrw3 - Thanks! soon once my knee heals more - the rope and fairlead came from winchline.com (http://www.winchline.com/)

some photos of DV HERE (http://homepage.mac.com/kristinahall/PhotoAlbum7.html) and HERE
(http://homepage.mac.com/kristinahall/PhotoAlbum8.html)

Robb - Thanks! yeah when I set my mind to something I usually over shoot the exit and need to be told to stop :D I have about 1.5 weeks of solid work and the 80 will be finished.

What's left to do:

Uniden PRO510XL cb radio and antenna
Custom drawer system
Water tank/pump/12v water heater/shower system
install shower controls/water faucet
in cab winch controls
upgrade second battery cables from #4 to #2 cables
install Slee front control arms and stock front shaft (test)
install 4 new OEM rubber brake lines to calipers
Possibly rebuild or install refurbished calipers (want best brakes)
change all fluids in drivetrain
re-torgue all bolts to spec
OZ 166L subtank-sender-gauge
gauge pod ( from an acura custom fit) with fuel and voltage
install technitop awning

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale,
Really intereseted in how you end up sorting out the suspension. Please keep us updated on the norcal list as well!

[Desertdude]

I installed Slee's front control arms yesterday ( along with the stock DS) - they are real nice and beefy

I am going to have both D shafts balance, and install new U-joints in both to be absolutly sure the driveline is as perfect as it could be - and an alignment - this will be on Thursday

I spoke with Ben this morning an clued him in on how things were going - I will have my final review on Thursday.

a few photos here (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum131.html)

[Scott Brady]

I had the pleasure of driving "The Dude's" FZJ80 the other day. What a beautiful and well designed truck. Great seats and solid structure.

BUT, what I was most impressed by was the Slee 4" kit. There have been rumors and murmuring about too stiff, etc. I say it was perfect, though slightly under-dampened for the load Pasquale has. That could be resolved by a firmer valved shock.

I cant wait to see the storage and kitchen systems develop.

I know he was trying to sway me to the dark side, and its working :eek: I had visions of building a super simple 93 into a great DD and adventure machine. Let me see: White, steel wheels, 255/85 MT's, 2" OME kit, ARB front bumper, da da da da da

[ShottsCruisers]

I installed Slee's front control arms yesterday ( along with the stock DS) - they are real nice and beefy

I am going to have both D shafts balance, and install new U-joints in both to be absolutly sure the driveline is as perfect as it could be - and an alignment - this will be on Thursday

I spoke with Ben this morning an clued him in on how things were going - I will have my final review on Thursday.

a few photos here (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum131.html)

So, you'll try a stock front D-shaft with the new arms?

[Desertdude]

So, you'll try a stock front D-shaft with the new arms?

Yes OEM shaft - (you might want to start finding one)

the DS balance work should be ready tomorrow - I will post my findings

[ShottsCruisers]

Yes OEM shaft - (you might want to start finding one)

the DS balance work should be ready tomorrow - I will post my findings

Thanks Dude! Your efforts at the 4" mark will help many others! :bowdown:

I don't think I'm going to snag a front D/S. I don't want to drop the LX back down to the 4" mark. I know at my height I'll need to incorporate a D/C.

I'm anxious on your outcome. Both of us had vibe-ing trucks. If yours works out via hardware swaps I'm confident mine can too. I've had everything inspected short of the D/C shaft. My move will be to front arms and 6" springs. Slee has a very high success rate on the 6" kit. I'll bet by moving that axle forward, added more C/C, changing angles to everyone elses with the kit will result in success too. I highly doubt I have a problem truck.

[clarkrw3]

Now I see what you're talking about shots:D :D didn't i say something about going 6" and being done with it like....hmmmm....about 2 months ago...sweet!!! you'll love it:gunt:

[ShottsCruisers]

Now I see what you're talking about shots:D :D didn't i say something about going 6" and being done with it like....hmmmm....about 2 months ago...sweet!!! you'll love it:gunt:

Ya...but..but...who listens to you? :hehe:

See, this way...if I experiment by doing all the crud I've been doing, then slap on the 6" and it works, I can take the credit and not you. :jump:

IF the 6" doesn't work....yer gonna pay! :xxrotflma

[clarkrw3]

Ya...but..but...who listens to you? :hehe:

See, this way...if I experiment by doing all the crud I've been doing, then slap on the 6" and it works, I can take the credit and not you. :jump:

IF the 6" doesn't work....yer gonna pay! :xxrotflma
That's cool, however, I am not sure about the non-cadillac ride for your old 100 series loving bones:elkgrin: Actually with all the OME lifts I think going to bilstein 7100 would be a big improvement, that's what I would like to do at some point but I still think you will be wildly happy. Part of the reason I used before and to justify the slee 6" to myself was that it seems to be a kit that has very few problems ie no futzing around. and at that time there wasn't a 4" slee kit. But now you will most definitly have me on app and dep angles:victory:

[ShottsCruisers]

But now you will most definitly have me on app and dep angles:victory:

:hehe: :hehe:

[Desertdude]

I am happy to report that the Slee control arms along with the Stock front shaft have cured all of the initial drive-line vibrations I was having with the castor plates/DC shaft - In testing I had to separate out normal drive-line noise and BFG mtr tire sounds/vibrations - after cruising the highways at 80+ and many back roads and trails through Sedona this weekend I and happy with the out come

Points to note : my expectations for this heavily modified 80 series are not that it maintains its cushy SUV feel - rather it is trail ready ( moderate to heavy trails) - can carry the gear/weight of an expedition ( if needed) and I can drive it to the trails ( sometimes 1000's of miles away) safely and with comfort - I have accomplished this and really like the look and how it responds on and off the road.


(1) Did the Slee control arms and stock shaft cure the vibrations I had once I lifted the 80 and installed the Slee castor plates and DC front shaft - definitely YES

(2) is the drive-line completely smooth with no sounds - a subjective NO

(3) Could any of these sounds be tracked down as something wrong due to the lift or any drive-line issues - I doubt it (no)

(4) Would I recommend the Slee control arms and stock front shaft as a cure to vibration issues linked to caster plates and the DC front shaft - YES

[ShottsCruisers]

I am happy to report that the Slee control arms along with the Stock front shaft have cured all of the initial drive-line vibrations I was having with the castor plates/DC shaft - In testing I had to separate out normal drive-line noise and BFG mtr tire sounds/vibrations - after cruising the highways at 80+ and many back roads and trails through Sedona this weekend I and happy with the outcome -

Points to note : my expectations for this heavly modified 80 series are not that it maintains its cushy SUV feel - rather it is trail ready ( moderate to heavy) - can carry the wieght of an expedtion ( if needed) and I can drive it to the trails ( sometimes 1000's of miles away) safely and with comfort - I have accomplished this and really like the look and how it responds on and off the road.


(1) Did the Slee control arms and stock shaft cure the vibrations I had once I lifted the 80 and installed the Slee castor plates and DC front shaft - definitely YES

(2) is the drive-line completely smooth with no sounds - a subjective NO

(3) Could any of these sounds be tracked down as something wrong due to the lift or any drive-line issues - I doubt it (no)

(4) Would I reccomend the Slee control arms and stock front shaft as a cure to vibration issues linked to caster plates and the DC front shaft - YES

OK, I'll get the arms and stock D-shaft and try them. I guess I'll remove my spacers and drop it down to the 4" mark.

[Desertdude]

At least you can see where you are - before you change too much - in trouble shooting it is best to do things one at a time and track down info -


OK, I'll get the arms and stock D-shaft and try them. I guess I'll remove my spacers and drop it down to the 4" mark.

[ShottsCruisers]

At least you can see where you are - before you change too much - in trouble shooting it is best to do things one at a time and track down info -

Yes, we will do it in steps. I just ordered the arms.

I'll...take off caster plates.
Slap on arms and drive.
If bad with arms I'll remove the D/C shaft and front spacers which puts me at about your height.

Step by step this time. Do you know anybody who can loan me a stock front shaft if I need it?

[Brian McVickers]

Anyone have a website for Hanna bumpers?

[ShottsCruisers]

DUDE: How much fiddling of the rear control arm adjusts was required? Do you know the arm length you finished at (from hole center to center)?

[Desertdude]

http://hannaquality.com/

Be sure and let him know I sent you ;)

[Desertdude]

15 3/4 " C to C - this made the diff flange parallel to the transfer case in the rear - smooth as silk ;)

I also made sure the pan hard rods where dialed in within 1/8"

Note: My 80 is loaded so your milage may vary...




DUDE: How much fiddling of the rear control arm adjusts was required? Do you know the arm length you finished at (from hole center to center)?

[ShottsCruisers]

15 3/4 " C to C - this made the diff flange parallel to the transfer case in the rear - smooth as silk ;)

I also made sure the pan hard rods where dialed in within 1/8"

Note: My 80 is loaded so your milage may vary...

Gracias! We'll slap those arms on. Adjust everything and ride. I really hope I can stay at the 5.5". If not...oh well. Where can't a 4-incher go? :o

[Desertdude]

No where but up - but I would guess you would also run into other issues - like having to run wheel spacers to get some stability on the road

Believe it or not I saw a 6" slee lift in DV and it did not look much higher than mine with a 4" - if any

Good luck on the vibes - ( didn't Spike or Tools have a stock shaft?)

[BajaTaco]

'Dude & 'Girl, I have been watching this thread. That ride has been thoroughly PIMPED! I am INTO it! Great shots by Echo and the bridge shot (that was probably shot by the 'Girl?) is way cool.

Nice job! Can't wait to see it in person.

:bowdown:

[clarkrw3]

I have a stock shaft but it's not for sale..it's my spare. You are welcome to test with it, however. I do live in Goodyear so pretty far from you.

[Desertdude]

Thanks Chris - Yes Desertgirl shot that one coming to the bridge up in DV - What a trail that was...

Hope to see you in person soon :campfire:

We will resume working on the 80 after next week and will complete the list below


What's left to do:

Uniden PRO510XL cb radio and antenna
Custom drawer system
Water tank/pump/12v water heater/shower system
install shower controls/water faucet
in cab winch controls
upgrade second battery cables from #4 to #2 cables
install Slee front control arms and stock front shaft (test)
install 4 new OEM rubber brake lines to calipers
Possibly rebuild or install refurbished calipers (want best brakes)
change all fluids in drivetrain
re-torgue all bolts to spec
OZ 166L subtank-sender-gauge
gauge pod ( from an acura custom fit) with fuel and voltage
install technitop awning




'Dude & 'Girl, I have been watching this thread. That ride has been thoroughly PIMPED! I am INTO it! Great shots by Echo and the bridge shot (that was probably shot by the 'Girl?) is way cool.

Nice job! Can't wait to see it in person.

:bowdown:

[BajaTaco]

What's left to do:

... Water tank/pump/12v water heater/shower system
install shower controls/water faucet


Forgive me if you already gave the details, but what are you planning to use for this? The same heater as you have on the Taco? How about the controls & faucet?

[Desertdude]

I have not yet revealed the details here - but have spoken with many folks on the trail about it. Thanks for this great question.

having messed around with a few types of shower set ups - I am going with the same poly tank as in the Tacoma - 21 gallon 8' X 16" X 40" - along with the Surflo 2.8 GPM pump - the water heater will be either an Isotemp (http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/refrigeration/water_heaters.html) or the Hubbell (http://hubbellheaters.com/html/ce110.htm) Like Scott mounted in his Tacoma - along with an inverter for 12-120 operation -

The tank and pump will be mounted where the second row seats were and be covered at the same level as the drawer system ( creating a flat level surface in the cargo area) I will leave a flip up access panel at the pump for maintenance.

I plan on running the water lines out to the front of the 80 and mounting a cold water faucet for filling water bottles on the ARB - along with H/C shower controls.

Filling will be from the passenger side of the 80 using a marine filler cap.

Damn thats a lot of work for a shower :bowdown:

[BajaTaco]

Sounds like it will work nicely. If you go with the Isotemp, will there be a mixing valve at the controls to help with temp. tuning for the water output at the shower? Or will it be a scenario where you need to keep the water flowing to avoid scalding? Also, I am curious about your choice for the water spigot at the front bumper. What is your reasoning for choosing this location over perhaps the side or back of the vehicle?

[Scott Brady]

I am looking forward to the shower build :)

You may want to consider only running the water to the sides or rear, as the long lengths of hose required to plumb to the front might invite a failure. You also want the water very convenient to the cooking area.

Cool stuff!

[Desertdude]

I will have a H/C shower faucet at the terminating end for mixing the temp

There are not too many places to install water faucets on the 80 - we always seem to shower near the front of the truck - passenger side for the ladder to the tent - rear for cooking and fridge access ( and the technitop awning for rain/shade)
The front is the logical spot ( barring the need to run longer water lines) I can run the lines quite hidden along the frame - the ARB can be drilled and molested with ease -

I will use a filtered water dispenser (http://www.faucetdepot.com/faucetdepot/ProductDetail.asp?link={35BC9AC2-E2FE-41D3-AE8C-FB8F67CEDB4B}&Product=3466) ( sinilar) for cold water and filling the water bottles and for tea

and marine H/C faucets (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/48537/0/0/shower%20faucets/All_2/mode+matchallpartial/0/0) for the shower hook up

nuttin in stone yet ;)

[BajaTaco]

Cool. One argument for having the shower in the front, is that it's no big deal to get water spray all over the front of the truck, whereas you will likely want to keep the cooking/cargo access/shade awning areas nice and dry. This is assuming you are in a camp where a privy is not neccessary and you can go au' natural. Hmmm... now that I think about it, it might be cool to plumb the water spigot to the back for the kitchen area, and keep the shower in the front. More tubing I know, but may well be worth it.

[Desertdude]

it might be cool to plumb the water spigot to the back for the kitchen area, and keep the shower in the front. More tubing I know, but may well be worth it.


this maybe a fine option - not too many places to mount one without a few obstacles - I could mount it on the swing-away - but will have to allow for the movement - once I get the water and sub-tank installed I will have a place where the gas/water cans are now - our man Scott had a brilliant idea of using that space for a stove/bbq - it could also be a rear sink area - great thoughts to ponder!

PS I am of the school to keep it separated so keeping the back dry is a good thought

[Life_in_4Lo]

Pasquale,
Just another brainstorm but what about just behind one of the sliders? I actually don't know anything about the interface or how it works :smilies27 Maybe similar to the 2 quick discos on your Taco front bumper?
http://homepage.mac.com/paintlab/.Public/dude.jpg
mount the shower head in the side pop-out panel? reach thru same slider the water connections are
http://homepage.mac.com/paintlab/.Public/dude1.jpg

[Desertdude]

Dang James - it's not everyday I get a professional mock up :luxhello:

I have seriously considered the drivers side rear panel near the gas tank filler for the shower set up - there is room behind the panel and i could route the hoses there - I will revisit this spot before plowing ahead -

The main concern about showering is it gets the ground all wet - so I am still thinking the front might be the way to go - I will know once I set the tank and pump and see how it all will route - these things have a way of finding their own spaces...

It is great for me to hear and see many ideas and possible solutions

Thanks guys! :beer:

[BajaTaco]

Nice artwork!

[Scott Brady]

http://homepage.mac.com/paintlab/.Public/dude.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/paintlab/.Public/dude1.jpg

Now that is cool! What program did you use to render those drawings?

[Desertdude]

James is a professional working in the movie industry - shouldnt you be working on a new impossibles (http://www.theimpossibles.org/site/) movie ?

my guess is Adobe PS and Illustrator + mega talent :)

[alia176]

<hijack on>
This is a very general question for the folks with the on board hot water system. I'm looking for a nice hot/cold water hookup with brackets that I *thought* was common in the boat and RV industry. This is the 90deg angle bracket with two hose connections and two screw on type caps wtih short chains. You simply screw on a garden hose to these connections. I'm looking for screw on type or the quick connection type. I'm a fan of the screw on type for longevity's sake.
<hijack off>

Sorry Pasquale!

Ali


I have not yet revealed the details here - but have spoken with many folks on the trail about it. Thanks for this great question.

having messed around with a few types of shower set ups - I am going with the same poly tank as in the Tacoma - 21 gallon 8' X 16" X 40" - along with the Surflo 2.8 GPM pump - the water heater will be either an Isotemp (http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/refrigeration/water_heaters.html) or the Hubbell (http://hubbellheaters.com/html/ce110.htm) Like Scott mounted in his Tacoma - along with an inverter for 12-120 operation -

The tank and pump will be mounted where the second row seats were and be covered at the same level as the drawer system ( creating a flat level surface in the cargo area) I will leave a flip up access panel at the pump for maintenance.

I plan on running the water lines out to the front of the 80 and mounting a cold water faucet for filling water bottles on the ARB - along with H/C shower controls.

Filling will be from the passenger side of the 80 using a marine filler cap.

Damn thats a lot of work for a shower :bowdown:

[Desertdude]

no problem Ali - but you would get many more opinions in the general mods sections

not everyone comes in here :)

[Life_in_4Lo]

another idea- just brainstorming, hope it's cool Pasquale!
melt a notch into the snorkel (I know you can work the plastic w/ heat and extra plastic to "weld" as my friend mod'ed a snorkel to fit his FJ55) and tuck your quick connect into the notch, plenty of room for routing a hose to it inside the snorkel...

or route out of the top of the snorkel-tho it would be hard to reach
[img]http://homepage.mac.com/paintlab/.Public/dude2.jpg



what is the impossibles? do your friends work on that Pasquale?
Scott, it's just a simple sketch program. nothing fancy. as Pasquale said, most of my stuff is done on PS and Illustrator.

[Desertdude]

James - great brainstorming - keep it coming! :beer:

it amazing to see an artist mock up - it really helps visualize what is what fast.

I am always weighting out cutting into the body or using to external modifications for mounting.

[blupaddler]

WOW!!!



Are you planning on cutting a hole in the passenger side for filling the water tank? Or will you just "open" the door to fill?

[Desertdude]

Not quite sure yet but in THIS (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-12-21%2017.59.43%20-0800/Image-D568F3C9728D11DA.jpg) photo you can see how I did it on the tacoma - it is clean and fitting...

[Boston Mangler]

Hey Pasquale

Have you seen the tank that slee is now selling?

Comes with a bunch of fixings as well:

http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/images/african_outback/tank450.jpg

[Desertdude]

Being a Slee off road member/lifeline :) I have seen those tanks

Thanks for the heads up :wavey:

[alia176]

That particular tank has me a little intrigued. I wonder if it'll fit on the outback drawer system if you have an Engel fridge/slide combo.

[Boston Mangler]

That particular tank has me a little intrigued. I wonder if it'll fit on the outback drawer system if you have an Engel fridge/slide combo.

supposedly yes

QUOTE: Ideal for mounting on African Outback Drawer Systems.

[BajaTaco]

Man, that looks nice. If it was mounted in a location where it would get direct sunlight through windows, I know it would heat up pretty significantly here in AZ. Which is not a bad thing for wash water, but for drinking water it's not so desireable. The good thing about the carpeting is that it would keep the sunlight loving cooties from growing, and add insulation if the tank is mounted below deck or inside of a cabinet or something.

[clarkrw3]

Why did you go with the roof top tent you have? I have been looking into these lately nad was wondering what you thought the differences were? thanks
Rob

let me know when you want to get those back nuts on your snorkel..

[Desertdude]

After camping for years using thermo rest pads and a fine Marmot tent - the thought of having a tent you could set up in seconds and have all the bedding and mattress all ready to go was the deciding factor.

I looked into all the other Safari style (half fold) tents - they are appealing for many reasons less weight - smaller folded up footprint - cool safari look - down side for me was - had to have a place to store all the bedding for two ( in the vehicle) - have to close down the tent and cover it with a cover - in the dust or rain you need to handle the tent and the cover and the bedding - before and after sleeping...

The Maggiolina has the thickest mattress at 3"- comes with two pillows- and you can keep all your blankets/sleeping bags all inside and the tent does not require an outside cover - In the rain all you do is crank it up - or down - nothing else to do ( 'cept set up the ladder) - Very warm in the colder climates when we are out there sleeping - Like in DV this year it was at 20 degrees :Wow1:

The close runner up was the Columbus - which has a slightly thinner mattress ( 2.5) IIRC - and opens up differently ( more head room) The Maggiolina Small weights Approx. 120 ( includes mattress and pillows) + your bed coverings.

Also both the Maggiolina and the Columbus are very aerodynamic

I am actually thinking of getting a Columbus to replace the Maggiolina I stole off my Tacoma - I miss it

::::::::

I don't know how you did it :coffee: I will compensate you handsomely for the snorkel nut service ;)

:::::::

[Desertdude]

Well we have been busy in the desertdude garage wrapping up the rest of our mod to do list - isn't it always a push when you have trips planned -

We started the custom built drawer system along with a slightly elaborate fresh water-hot water/shower system - which includes an 1800 watt inverter - an Isotemp 4.2 gal. marine water heater - a 15 gal. poly tank - 2.8 gpm surflo 12v pump - 12 feet of 3/0 battery cables - a Marine aft deck shower head- and a fresh water dispenser

With all the great ideas offered here we choose to keep most of the apparatus inside the 80 not really knowing how it will all work out in the end I felt better not to cut too many holes in the side of the truck ;) I will be cutting a hole for the marine water filler and will post photos when that takes place later today:Wow1:

you can view some of the photos HERE (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/iWeb/Desertdude/80%20Series%20Drawer%20System.1.html)

I went under the 80 and re-torqued all the various bolts- re-adjusted all the wheel bearings and inspected the brake lines and drained and re-filled both diffs and transfer-case - I'll be installing new powder-coated Slee front control arms - George's Led's - adjusting the parking brakes ( for CM05 inspection) -

After CM05 - we will install the Long Ranger aux tank - and will be heading to heavier springs to hold up all the added weight - We're almost finished :beer:

[datrupr]

Very nice Pasquale! As usual, a very professional looking job. I can't wait to see the 80 in person and climb all over it and check it out.

[alia176]

Looks good P., very nice.

One thing to keep in mind is to keep the weight down as much as possible. You know this already but with the amount of stuff we keep adding on, the weight just crawls up and your power goes down at the same rate. Something like a loss of 1hp/10 lbs of weight!

Looking forward to more mods!

Ali

[BajaTaco]

You two do such first class work! I am in awe... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[kcowyo]

You two do such first class work! I am in awe... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Yeah... what he said.....



.....daaaaannnngggg :cool:

[p1michaud]

...We started the custom built drawer system

What thickness ply do you use for your drawer systems, 1/2" or 3/4" and where? (i.e. 3/4" on bottom of system and drawers and 1/2' for all sides).
I'm going to be building a drawer system for the Tacoma and I'm wondering what thickness to use where.


You two do such first class work! I am in awe...:bowdown: :bowdown:

Very well said. Great work. :clapsmile

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

simply outstanding :luxhello: :clapsmile :exclaim:

[Life_in_4Lo]

wow, keep er going guys! It looks great, hope the water system works out- at least it looks to stay much cleaner in there.

:lurk: :jumping:

[Desertdude]

Thanks everyone for the cheers :beer:

We wrapped up most of the stuff today - final photos posted later tonight.

Believe it or not I have less stuff loaded in this 80 that I do in the Tacoma :D - but hey I travel light :shakin: can you say supercharger :D

Slee is importing a 4" heavy spring and might ,and next month - this spring would be perfect for my rear weight... With the water in the middle I have a lower center of gravity and can remove the three cans on the bumper carrier - Approx 120lbs

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What thickness ply do you use for your drawer systems, 1/2" or 3/4" and where? (i.e. 3/4" on bottom of system and drawers and 1/2' for all sides).
I'm going to be building a drawer system for the Tacoma and I'm wondering what thickness to use where.


I used 3/4 ply bottom sides and top for screw strength & bolting down - ( less thickness is not that much lighter - and 1/2" shop maple for the drawer - total = ( 1) 3/4"-4X8 (1) 1/2"-4X8

[BajaTaco]

... With the water in the middle I have a lower center of gravity and can remove the three cans on the bumper carrier - Approx 120lbs

Oh man, that is going make a huge difference. :clapsmile Good job.

[desertgirl66]

Wanted to thank everyone for all the great input and words of encouragement! This has been (and continues) to be a fun and at times challenging project. I wanted to say that Pasquale is quite the visionary in being able to see the outcome of the 80 and being able to design this wonderful Expedition-mobile:) Also, big kudos to his building, plumbing, electrical, carpet installation and mechanical abilities.

His primary reason for building this 80 is so that I can have a comfortable experience. Hot showers in the outback are really a wonderful treat :jumping:
Having a water system is really a neccesity, I loved the system on the Tacoma when we were in Baja.

I am really his assisstant and sounding board. My skills are organizational and being able to run for the 10mm with the extension, de-greasing and helping to muscle the diffs in place. Oh and really cleaning the birfields!!

Good job Desertdude :clapsmile

[Jonathan Hanson]

Hey you two, I can hardly wait to see this vehicle in person. Great reports!

[Desertdude]

A few more photos of the finished product - HERE
(http://web.mac.com/desertdude/iWeb/80.series.landcruiser/deck.drawer.system.html)

We hope to fill it up today and test it out :coffee:

[Jonathan Hanson]

Ouch. Some of those hurt to look at.

[Desertdude]

yep - its a fine line...:D

[Mike S]

Pasquale

Do not let Steve (Grouseman) see those pictures! He'll be on his way to AZ the same day.

Nice sanitary job. I hope that DG enjoys the shower on the trail...:victory:

M

[BajaTaco]

Man, where's the champagne?! :clapsmile

SWANKY!!!

:luxhello:

[brittan]

My hats off to you. Can't wait to see it in person...

[Hltoppr]

Very, very cool DD & DC!

-H- :victory:

[Boston Mangler]

WOW! :bowdown:

When can we place orders!?? ;)

I like the sink faucet and the lower mounting of the fridge to not obstruct rear window view!

[Desertdude]

Thank you to everyone for the kind words of encouragement :luxhello:

The 80 is fully loaded- hot water sower system tested -all " killer no filler"...

Heading up to Moab for the real test :jumping:


Looks like 6" slee springs will be the next cross grade :smileeek:

our mod list has really shrunk - we have only a few items left before Alaska ( and ACT06) in June/July and will wrap those up after Moab


We look forward to seeing everyone on the trail soon!

[tarbe]

You guys have done some amazing work! You have inspired me!

Thanks for sharing all the write-ups and photos. Lots of great ideas are fermenting.

Tim

[datrupr]

Tarbe, welcome to the ExPo! I am sure when you have some questions or need any help these guys will be happy to oblige. Are you running a TLC? Show us some pics of your rig please.

[Desertdude]

A few more photos (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/iWeb/80.series.landcruiser/80.series.photos.html) of our nearly finished rig

After nearly 40K miles since leaving for the N2A trip (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/iWeb/Desertdude.to.Alaska/N2A-Blog/N2A-Blog.html) - the 80 series Landcruiser is as solid as new. This is one enjoyable vehicle on and off highway.

We installed a DC front and rear DS and this along with Slee's 4" heavy coils in the rear have made all the difference in carrying all our gear, and making our drive train vibration free.

We're wrapping up a few loose end mods on the vehicle, and a bit of preventive maintenance (including a broken internal airline on the rear ARB locker) - Spoke with Christo and Ben at Slee offroad (http://www.sleeoffroad.com) - they sent the parts I needed and the gaskets/seals came from Cdan (on IH8Mud) (http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=17873) and American Toyota in NM - I completed the simple repair in a few hours, and was also able to install new seals and gaskets for the rear axle shafts. Installed all new brake pads ( after 30K miles the really needed it) Slee SS brake lines as well as Slee made SS ARB locker air lines will be included in the wrap up mod list...

A complete system OEM 50 litre sub-tank is coming from Australia to be installed. :jumping:

I moved from BFG tires to a new set of Open Country Toyos - man what a difference off-highway - Rugged profile, great tires.

A big thank you to Mike S over at Autohome (http://www.autohomeus.com/) for setting us up with the new Columbus Carbon Fiber Rooftop Tent (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/Clolumbus.Tent.Site/index.html) - :REOutArchery02: its a beauty!

A super cool thanks goes out to the Overland Journal (http://overlandjournal.com/) folks for including this 80 series Landcruiser in the first issues vehicle centerfold spread.

I will post up more info and a few more photos :Mechanic:

http://www.xplorn.com/ACT2006/gina/060711__mg_0285_std.jpg
Photo Copyright © 2006, Gina Bringman

[blupaddler]

Congrats Dude!

I was wondering why you were selling your BFG's. I have had the Toyo's for a little while. They did great on our last trip to Baja.
Would you say they are noisier than your BFG m/t's?


Oh, and where in AZ or _____ were you that put you on a ferry?














And you're going to have to sign the centerfold of my OJ. :shakin:

[Desertdude]

Gracias Amigo!

Yes, I find on the road the Toyos are quite noisey compared to new BFG's

That Ferry was Halls crossing at Lake Powell (Bull Frog Marina) in Arizona

http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/Portalwebphotos/Ferry.1.jpg


http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/Portalwebphotos/Ferry.2.jpg

[adventureduo]

Great ideas for the shower setup. I was thinking along the same lines.. nice to see it completed! How do you like the shower so far?

Care to share part#'s on the tank/shurflo and water heater?

This looks like the hot ticket!

[Mlachica]

Those toyos are sweet, I've been leaning towards those as my next set. I also like the new procomp xtreme mud terrains.


Yes, I find on the road the Toyos are quite noisey compared to new BFG's

How about broken in bfg's?

[Desertdude]

How about broken in bfg's?

Noisey like the new Toyos :)

[Desertdude]

Great ideas for the shower setup. I was thinking along the same lines.. nice to see it completed! How do you like the shower so far?

Care to share part#'s on the tank/shurflo and water heater?

This looks like the hot ticket!

Surflo pump (http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-pumps-water-filters-fixtures-1.htm)

Isotherm water heater (http://www.isotherm.com) bought trough west marine

Poly Tank (http://tankdepot.com/)



I like the shower a lot...

a few observations;

Pros -

amaxing pressure and home shower feeling

great hot water supply

No set up -anyone can just turn the knobs and go

Heats while we drive ( with invertor on)

Cons-

its pricey

Not a basic system ( things could go wrong)

Takes up a large section of the inside

it is a bit hard to adjust in the begining due to blending the H & C water ( wastes water)

hard to share showers with others due to the close filtered water system

not able to use any water from a creek or can

did I say "Pricey"

In the end do I still like it----> Yes it's awesome!

What would I do over again? Stay tuned...

[adventureduo]

How many amps are you drawing off the inverter while heating the water through the isotemp? Can you run it for very long with the engine not running? What is the inverter drawing off the truck? How long does it take to heat the tank?

Im also playing around with the idea of the submergable water heater that another member did. But it draws a ton of current.

[Desertdude]

Isotherm PDF (http://www.indelmarineusa.com/pdf/ManIsotempUSA06.pdf)

Watts divided by voltage shows amps being drawn.

115v / 750 W = 6.5 Amps

I am running a Yellow Top Optima ( soon to be changed to a higher amperage Lifeline or similar brand battery)

It takes approx 20 mins to heat the water . The 80 series Alt can barely keep up at low Rpm's. I really have not considered heating the water without the engine charging the battery.

One of the better designs in water heaters - the Isotherm can run of the engine ( heater I/O) - So I am thinking of removing the unused heater under the drivers seat and using those lines to heat the Isotherm.

In my early research I was looking at those submergable coils, but in the end, choose to have a SS tank with a complete set up - in case I change my mind and want to remove it and use it somewhere else. (Which I am close to doing)

I also own and use a Zodi extreme (http://www.zodi.com/web-content/Consumer/zodiextremeshower.html) and a Helton heater (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/PhotoAlbum105.html) (in the Tacoma)
they also work great - the Zodi the most fool proof and basic of the three.

[adventureduo]

Right on, thanks for the info DesertDude, I appreciate you taking the time to explain.

[Ursidae69]

I saw this amazing machine in person recently and it doesn't get much better than this. :bowdown:

[kcowyo]

Slee made SS ARB locker air lines will be included in the wrap up mod list...

Anymore info on these? I'm not finding anything on Slee's site......?:088:

The new stuff looks great. It will be interesting to see how you like the Columbus vs. the Maggiolina. The Toyos are cool but the BFG's just have that classic looking tread design to them. Nice pics from Escalante!

BTW, when heating the Zodi, what temp range is about right for a shower, ie not scalding and not freezing? When removed from the heating source, do you find the water cools quickly or slowly in the can? I still haven't used mine yet, (but apparently someone did, while pulling a trailer over Elephant Hill this weekend....) so knowing when to back off the heat as the thermometer display climbs would be a good thing.

Gracias Dude - :friday:

[adventureduo]

here ya go..

http://www.russellperformance.com/auto/acc/acc-arb.shtml

[akcruzers]

A few more photos (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/iWeb/80.series.landcruiser/80.series.photos.html) of our nearly finished rig

After nearly 40K miles since leaving for the N2A trip (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/iWeb/Desertdude.to.Alaska/N2A-Blog/N2A-Blog.html) - the 80 series Landcruiser is as solid as new. This is one enjoyable vehicle on and off highway.

We installed a DC front and rear DS and this along with Slee's 4" heavy coils in the rear have made all the difference in carrying all our gear, and making our drive train vibration free.

We're wrapping up a few loose end mods on the vehicle, and a bit of preventive maintenance (including a broken internal airline on the rear ARB locker) - Spoke with Christo and Ben at Slee offroad (http://www.sleeoffroad.com) - they sent the parts I needed and the gaskets/seals came from Cdan (on IH8Mud) (http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=17873) and American Toyota in NM - I completed the simple repair in a few hours, and was also able to install new seals and gaskets for the rear axle shafts. Installed all new brake pads ( after 30K miles the really needed it) Slee SS brake lines as well as Slee made SS ARB locker air lines will be included in the wrap up mod list...

A complete system OEM 50 litre sub-tank is coming from Australia to be installed. :jumping:

I moved from BFG tires to a new set of Open Country Toyos - man what a difference off-highway - Rugged profile, great tires.

A big thank you to Mike S over at Autohome (http://www.autohomeus.com/) for setting us up with the new Columbus Carbon Fiber Rooftop Tent (http://web.mac.com/desertdude/Clolumbus.Tent.Site/index.html) - :REOutArchery02: its a beauty!

A super cool thanks goes out to the Overland Journal (http://overlandjournal.com/) folks for including this 80 series Landcruiser in the first issues vehicle centerfold spread.

I will post up more info and a few more photos :Mechanic:

http://www.xplorn.com/ACT2006/gina/060711__mg_0285_std.jpg
Photo Copyright © 2006, Gina Bringman


Good morning Pasquale and Kristina,
Oh I do remember this trip and the great green 80 you brought to Alaska for the TREK in 06.

I just want you two to know that you, Bob & Sally as well as Jim Brantly have been a huge inspiration to me. I saw first hand how well the 80's did up here when you guys brought them up. The 80 is a great platform for expedition travel. I have picked up a locked 80, here in Alaska of all places and have started my build. I am about 95% done with the build and am already wheeling it. I am super impressed by the rigs abilities. When I'm finished I'll post up some build pics.

Thank also for introducing me to ExPo as well. I have truly learned and have been inspired on this site.

Hope to see you next spring

AKCRUZERS
(Greg)

[FourByLand]

Well it sure has come along way and will take you guys alot further.

Great job on the build guys and thanks for sharing!

:arabia:

[mountainpete]

Pasquale - my truck wants to be just like yours when it grows up!

Looks great :wings:

[DaveInDenver]

SS ARB locker air lines will be included in the wrap up mod list...
Chris Wood from ARB gave the club a demo a couple of weeks ago. He was asked about this and why ARB uses the plastic air lines. He said they are designed as the fuse for the system and he recommended against using solid lines that run from the solenoids to the axles. I guess the idea is if the hose catches on something, it's designed to break the blue line rather than a fitting, solenoid or the locker bulkhead or compressor. Thoughts about this?

[spressomon]

Chris Wood from ARB gave the club a demo a couple of weeks ago. He was asked about this and why ARB uses the plastic air lines. He said they are designed as the fuse for the system and he recommended against using solid lines that run from the solenoids to the axles. I guess the idea is if the hose catches on something, it's designed to break the blue line rather than a fitting, solenoid or the locker bulkhead or compressor. Thoughts about this?

I ran a SS braided line with threaded fittings on each end for my front ARB mainly because the fitting on the front diff (LC 100 IFS) is on the top side of the diff housing...and it can only be accessed by lowering the the whole assembly (and if it developed a leak or needed to be replaced it would be a major PITA in the garage let alone out on a trail). There is no possible way, on my set-up, trail debris could snag my line. However a rear run would be a little different and possibly more exposed. Other than that it makes sense from a "weak link" perspective.

[Grim Reaper]

Chris Wood from ARB gave the club a demo a couple of weeks ago. He was asked about this and why ARB uses the plastic air lines. He said they are designed as the fuse for the system and he recommended against using solid lines that run from the solenoids to the axles. I guess the idea is if the hose catches on something, it's designed to break the blue line rather than a fitting, solenoid or the locker bulkhead or compressor. Thoughts about this?I believe the concern is that the compressor might stick on and the hope is to blow the line instead of blowing out the seals in the diff. ;)

[Desertdude]

Good morning Pasquale and Kristina,
Oh I do remember this trip and the great green 80 you brought to Alaska for the TREK in 06.



Its is great to hear from you Greg! Yes that trip is still on the fore front of our minds, and talk about it often. Wish we could drive right back up there now and do it all over again. Hope to see you down here in the desert when you can, the door is always open...

[Desertdude]

I agree in part. The connections being slip fit might also be a "fuse". The blue line is easy to fix with connectors if it gets a rip or tear. The Blue line is quite stout, ad the way its been routed under the vehicle, it has no chance of being hit, or grabbed, or burned by exhaust.

I do however think that SS braided lines offered by Slee offroad will make for a nice clean "forever" install.





Chris Wood from ARB gave the club a demo a couple of weeks ago. He was asked about this and why ARB uses the plastic air lines. He said they are designed as the fuse for the system and he recommended against using solid lines that run from the solenoids to the axles. I guess the idea is if the hose catches on something, it's designed to break the blue line rather than a fitting, solenoid or the locker bulkhead or compressor. Thoughts about this?

[DaveInDenver]

I believe the concern is that the compressor might stick on and the hope is to blow the line instead of blowing out the seals in the diff. ;)
That makes sense. Didn't think to press him on the specifics. Actually, as I type this, that really makes a whole bunch of sense, because the only thing keeping the tank on the compressor from blowing up if the pressure switch dies would be the blue hose. The pressure switch is a piece of electronics like anything else, certainly prone to vibration, heat/cold, wear.

[Mlachica]

That makes sense. Didn't think to press him on the specifics. Actually, as I type this, that really makes a whole bunch of sense, because the only thing keeping the tank on the compressor from blowing up if the pressure switch dies would be the blue hose. The pressure switch is a piece of electronics like anything else, certainly prone to vibration, heat/cold, wear.

McMasterCarr has a great line up of safety relief valves that could solve this. There's adjustable one's or you can get them preset from 0-100psig in increments of 5psig. I like the ss lines. Will the blue nylon hoses get brittle over time?

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Dude...Have you already installed your subtank yet or did I miss it? I finally have all of the parts and I'm not looking forward to the wiring.

[xcmountain80]

Wish I could bury my 4Runner and spray some water on the soil and have it grow into a vehicle likes this.
Aaron

[alia176]

Dude...Have you already installed your subtank yet or did I miss it? I finally have all of the parts and I'm not looking forward to the wiring.

Wiring is very simple actually....embrace the "wiring" as they say!!! Do a quick search on Mud for any tid bits and I hope you have George's ECU for the pump operation. If not, go to www.taskled.com and order it. Lots of writeup on Mud on the wiring, ECU and stuff.

[Desertdude]

Dude...Have you already installed your subtank yet or did I miss it? I finally have all of the parts and I'm not looking forward to the wiring.

Yes, I installed the Subtank from AU.

As Ali says, George has most of the info as does Romer in the 80 section FAQ's

Its a sweet fit, just like it should have been there from the factory :iagree:

[Boston Mangler]

I finally have all of the parts and I'm not looking forward to the wiring.

Here is the wiring simplified

My writeup: http://www.bajaoverland.com/auxtankinstall.php

http://www.bajaoverland.com/images/diagramfinal_1.jpg

[Mike S]

Comparing this to the 44 gal LR install in my 80... the diagram looks good, but why not switch the tank and gauge input both from the subtank switch, and route the sensor through a linked switch to the stock fuel gauge? This eliminates the entire problem of installing more 'stuff'.

Mine works this way.

[Boston Mangler]

but why not switch the tank and gauge input both from the subtank switch, and route the sensor through a linked switch to the stock fuel gauge?

Sure, this COULD be done very easily, i just chose to have two gauges because the overhead console setup fell into my lap

Also, i didnt like the idea of messing with the gauges either! :D

[Mike S]

Gotcha.

But you only need to mess with the gauge WIRES. But no problemo the way you did it - has a sort of aviation look to it.

M

[Boston Mangler]

But you only need to mess with the gauge WIRES.

Yeah, i know, i wussed out and took the easy way out


But no problemo the way you did it - has a sort of aviation look to it.

Yeah, i dig it

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Thanks guys. I do have Georges' switch and the overhead gauge console as well. I look at Kevins and Georges site weekly.

I was just hoping to get another view from P.