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dhackney
06-01-2008, 09:24 PM
Propane Systems for Expedition Vehicles


Table of Contents

1 IntroductionMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......................2
2 Why Propane?MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...................3
3 Propane CharacteristicsMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......4
4 Propane Supply ChainMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMM..........6
5 Propane System ComponentsMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM7
6 Propane System ConnectorsMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.9
7 Propane Bottle/Tank Fill Valves and Connectors...13
8 Propane Bottle Fill WeightMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMM...16
9 Using Propane in Foreign Countries.....................17
10 Jumper Filling Propane Bottles............................21
11 ResourcesMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........................24



1 Introduction

Perhaps no other system on an expedition vehicle is as wrapped in mystery or inspires as much outright fear as the propane system.

With its inherently explosive nature and its bewildering variety of connectors, it is easy to understand why the typical overlander avoids the design and implementation of a propane system if at all possible.

Once the propane system is designed and installed the challenges do not evaporate. Instead, the overlander who ventures overseas is faced with the daunting task of refilling their propane tank(s) or bottle(s). To refill, they must decipher a highly regulated supply chain and communicate complex concepts and schedules in the local language.

And, if the refilling quest fails, they must do the task on their own, using materials at hand.

All of this adds up to a lot of motivation to avoid a propane system in your expedition vehicle if at all possible. Unfortunately, the alternatives all present significant challenges and/or downsides of their own, so most of us end up with a propane system in our expedition vehicles.

However, all is not lost. Propane need not be a mystery, propane systems need not be arcane, and refilling overseas need not be daunting.

This document attempts to:


Explain the basics of Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG / LP), commonly known in the U.S.A. as propane
Define the elements of a typical expedition vehicle propane system
Document the types of materials and connectors used in a typical expedition vehicle propane system
De-mystify the utilization and refilling of a propane system while overseas



See the entire document here: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/docs/propane4xvehicles.pdf


I welcome feedback, improvements and corrections, especially from propane/LPG/LP professionals.

bmh
06-02-2008, 04:17 AM
I find this hard to use in a long distance rig... There aren't a lot (read: as many as petrol stations) of places to get propane. The majority of those places won't be open on Sundays or those days when you get off the trail late. You have to find a place to store tanks, which takes up valuable cargo space.

Not to mention, I don't think you can pass emissions on propane. I know you can't in Colorado, only because you don't have proper emissions equipment...doesn't matter that it burns cleaner.

I just don't find it to be feasible. As always, I don't mind being proven wrong.

Hayes

dhackney
06-02-2008, 04:36 AM
I don't think you can pass emissions on propane. I know you can't in Colorado, only because you don't have proper emissions equipment...doesn't matter that it burns cleaner.

Hayes,

This document only addresses propane used as an energy source for appliances such as stoves, furnaces, hot water heaters, refrigerators, etc.

It does not address propane/LP conversions for the chassis motor.

Doug

Harald Hansen
06-02-2008, 12:19 PM
Excellent! I'll read this later.

dhackney
06-19-2008, 06:14 PM
I posted version 1.1

Version 1.1

Version History
V 1.0………….Initial release
V 1.1………….Added “Using Foreign Bottles/Tanks” section

I also added information on bleeder valves to the jumper fill section.

dhackney
10-19-2008, 05:14 AM
I posted version 1.2.

Version 1.2

Version History
V 1.0………….Initial release
V 1.1………….Added “Using Foreign Bottles/Tanks” section
V 1.2………….Added additional resources and South America country specific information

Country specific info includes listings by country for bottle specs, delivery truck connection type and vehicle fill pump connection type.

I also added additional information on available adapters for various connector types for international travel.

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jesusgatos
04-29-2009, 06:28 PM
Thanks for taking the tim to put this together.

dzzz
04-29-2009, 09:10 PM
Great document.

One comment. You say to use 100% stainless steal clamp, and to use a magnet to check. Many readers will not know that test - that the magnet won't "stick" with true stainless.