View Full Version : Bike rack durable enough for overland travel?
Tom B
06-25-2008, 04:34 AM
I put a RTT up top and need to find a new place for the bikes on my 100 series LC. Preferably a robust tire mounted carrier.
Lately I've been packing the bike inside, but I would like to find an external solution for the obvious reasons. I have a Slee swing-away tire carrier (35" spare) that makes it difficult to use my old hitch mounted carrier. The hitch carrier swings out in the same direction as the Slee, making it impossible to open the rear with it on, and I would need to get a receiver extension to permit this bike carrier to clear the tire carrier. In addition, even if I were to find a new hitch mounted bike carrier that swings out to the left, I am concerned about the durability of these models over the long haul. Plus, there's the dramatically decreased departure angle.
Does anyone have experience with a bike carrier I could mount to the center of my spare that is durable enough for overland travel? I'm guessing I'll have to fab a special bracket up for my Slee carrier, but that's okay if the carrier will work.
Topmounter
07-07-2008, 02:19 AM
I'm sort of wondering the same thing. I haven't put a bumper w/ rear tire carrier on my LC yet however.
I'm not a fan of the rear racks where the bikes hang by the top-tube, so I'm wondering if the Thule 916 T2 - 2 (http://www.thuleracks.com/product.asp?dept_id=8&sku=916) would leave enough space for the spare tire. I know the rack is plenty sturdy as far as bike racks go. I guess worst case, you could run the 2 bike add-on to space things out a bit and if you needed to put 4 bikes on it, stick the spare inside or back underneath (if you haven't stuck an aux tank under there). I'm also curious what that Thule does to the departure angle with the higher-than-stock receiver on the Slee rear bumper. I can't imagine you would want to do any serious wheeling with the rack on the back.
I always prefer sticking the bikes inside, but for multi-day trips that isn't always feasible and I'm done with the PIA of putting bikes on the top. I have a Yakima box on top right now, but I'm considering going with a RTT.
jatibb
07-07-2008, 12:29 PM
ive thought about mounting a reese hitch adapter (1-1/4" to 2") on a plate that would bolt behind the spare in the hub area. then you could use a hitch mounted rack. up high and stable. any welder (or you) could weld a plate to the end of the adapter.
ntsqd
07-07-2008, 03:29 PM
The man that invented the "Cool Tool" and originated the Retrotec frames used to hang his bikes off the rear of his tour bus. He used 'Bike Tight' type fork drop-out clamps and only the front wheels & tires went inside the bus. I don't think he ever had any straps for the rear tires.
On an LC it just might be possible to do something similar off the rear of the rack. Though I would figure out some method of keeping the rear tire(s) in place.
Topmounter
07-07-2008, 08:09 PM
The man that invented the "Cool Tool" and originated the Retrotec frames used to hang his bikes off the rear of his tour bus. He used 'Bike Tight' type fork drop-out clamps and only the front wheels & tires went inside the bus. I don't think he ever had any straps for the rear tires.
On an LC it just might be possible to do something similar off the rear of the rack. Though I would figure out some method of keeping the rear tire(s) in place.
Oh wow, I was just remembering that Retrotec rig from back in the day when I still worked at a bike shop. Not sure it was the same vehicle, but I remember someone from Retrotec stopping by and having the bikes hanging off the back vertically.
I think the rear spoiler mounting holes should be strong enough to support a custom bracket with a couple bike tights mounted to it. You'd need mount some sort of wheel trays to the bumper to hold the rear wheels. I wouldn't trust the factory plastic spoiler to be strong enough, but you could make something similar in metal.
The biggest disadvantage I can see is losing all access to the rear hatch as long as the bikes are mounted, but I guess with the receiver bike rack you're going to have the same issue since you won't be able to swing the spare tire carrier out to access at least the upper hatch.
I saw an FJC today with the Thule receiver rack on it and there is plenty of room for the rear mounted spare tire.
Tom B
07-23-2008, 06:41 AM
Thanks for the ideas guys. I'm going to explore some of them and see what I can come up with. I'm installing a Milford cargo barrier in a few weeks, so I'll be forced to come up with a solution if I want to keep riding and camping with the LC.
T.Low
07-23-2008, 07:14 PM
I've got the Yakima version of that Thule system. It seems plenty strong. I need to make a rear bumper that swings a tire mount to the driver side, and has a receiver holding the bike mount that will swing the entire bike rack to the passenger side so I can access my rear doors.
The first picture shows the bumper still has plenty of clearence as the back of the bike carrier scrapes just enough to make some noise. I have a "Hidden Hitch, with the reciever mounted just tihgt under the bumper. (Van has 4-5 inch spring lift in rear).
This trip was 100 miles off pavement from Winthrop Washington to Chelan wa. (I rode the last 25 miles while she drove the van ahead to get pizza!) Bikes get dusty as hell back there. Bring brushes and lube for drive train.
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nosivad_bor
09-27-2009, 02:28 AM
I'd like to revive this thread and see if anyone has come up with a good solution for mounting the bicycle inside the vehicle.
I've thought about the rack mounted to the hitch and that's great for at city but I will have the potential to be doing some rough 4 wheeling and don't want to risk ripping a hitch mounted rack off.
A spare tire mounted rack is probably the best solution except I feel that is going to add more weight and stress to the back door , which are not very stout anyway. Also I'm not sure if this will abrade the bike unnecessarily from swinging in the rack. I should mention I have a land rover discovery 1.
I think this is the safest spot for the bike is inside the cargo area. Problem is I am not sure if I use one of those fork mounted carrier (http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Racks-T970-Block-Bicycle/dp/B000QJC5F8/ref=cm_cmu_pg_t) if all the bouncing around will cause too much stress on the tips of the fork. Also, there is almost no room to fit the bike with the tires on (inside the vehicle) along with all of my other cargo, so I might put it sideways behind the front seats.
Can anyone comment on if the fork mount is okay for long off road trips?
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