My Gig Question

[TACODOC]

Looking for feedback from current owners.

Is this option worth it?

Dealer says that the 08 and 09 versions are different i.e. 08 is disc based and 09 is hardware based? Lower price for 09?

Would a guy be better off to just put in his own system?

TIA!

[Scott Brady]

No, it truly and completely sucks... Every single feature is less than acceptable.

The sound is pretty good with the subwoofer, but I tore all of that out.

I have the recent update, and it helped just a bit, but is only in the Jeep because I could not find one without it.

[Gear]

Hello Dave,
This is one of the things my Jeep did not come with. I think you would do better looking for something aftermarket. Plus I believe you moded your stereo in the Tacoma. I wish the stock stereo had a Ipod port on the back of the unit instead of the front. Less wires hanging out!!! Maybe they have changed this since my 07 Jeep. Hope to see you on the trail soon!

[FourByLand]

:safari-rig:

And the plot thickens...

[JRhetts]

I could not agree more with Scott - every aspect of the MYGIG unit is a kludgy piece of "bad design". You cannot store iPod files in the hard drive, the nav unit is a complete piece of crap (it won't even display your speed as a cross-check on the speedometer) and its menus and functionality are truly lousy (as a reference, in the last 15 years I have used almost every brand of GPS made traveling on land, sea and air.)

I only have it because all the available Jeeps had them installed; I will seriously consider getting a new head unit in the future.

[ssmathis]

Well since we just went to the dark side (also sold our Tacoma) I'd agree with avoiding it. Ours came with it but it's not something I would have gotten if the jeep weren't what we wanted from a color, options standpoint otherwise. I've had no problems with mine but your money is better spent elsewhere.

Scott

[6Pins]

I had a loaner with it in there prior to ordering my Jeep. It stunk. The only system that I think stinks worse than MY GIG is the iDrive system in my mothers BMW.

Save your money.

[4Rescue]

... The only system that I think stinks worse than MY GIG is the iDrive system in my mothers BMW...

That's saying ALOT...

[TACODOC]

:safari-rig:

And the plot thickens...

No plot, just doing a little research and comparison... :costumed-smiley-007

Thanks for all the feedback gents!

[vengeful]

It's complete and utter junk.

Do yourself a favor, avoid the Infinity sound package if at all possible, install your own stereo and add a Garmin or Baja540c. :26_7_2:

Though, personally, from someone who has been selling new Jeeps for a while, I wouldn't recommend ANYTHING made by them since 2006 (and that's only because the Wrangler still had the 4.0 then), to anyone who plans on using their vehicle off-road or in difficult terrain.

I could go into detail, but I don't want to offend anyone.

[CA-RJ]

I'm interested. Please go on.


It's complete and utter junk.

Do yourself a favor, avoid the Infinity sound package if at all possible, install your own stereo and add a Garmin or Baja540c. :26_7_2:

Though, personally, from someone who has been selling new Jeeps for a while, I wouldn't recommend ANYTHING made by them since 2006 (and that's only because the Wrangler still had the 4.0 then), to anyone who plans on using their vehicle off-road or in difficult terrain.

I could go into detail, but I don't want to offend anyone.

[TACODOC]

Though, personally, from someone who has been selling new Jeeps for a while, I wouldn't recommend ANYTHING made by them since 2006 (and that's only because the Wrangler still had the 4.0 then), to anyone who plans on using their vehicle off-road or in difficult terrain.

I could go into detail, but I don't want to offend anyone.

I'm all ears.

Please, continue... :coffee:

[ChuckB]

Though, personally, from someone who has been selling new Jeeps for a while, I wouldn't recommend ANYTHING made by them since 2006 (and that's only because the Wrangler still had the 4.0 then), to anyone who plans on using their vehicle off-road or in difficult terrain.

I could go into detail, but I don't want to offend anyone.

I have been looking at JK's as well and would be interested to hear your opinions also.

[Root Moose]

I'm interested. Please go on.


x2

I'm sure we are all adult enough to take away what is important from our perspectives. It's just a vehicle after all, not a family member.

I have a somewhat negative view of the JK myself. Not due to capability but other things. I'd like to hear your perspectives to see if we are on the same page or whatever.

This all said it'd still be in the top three of my short list for a new 4x4.

[SeaRubi]

"....to anyone who plans on using their vehicle off-road or in difficult terrain."

if you're going to bait the thread you might as well spill your beans. I think everybody around here is thick skinned enough to hear your thoughts. It's not often we hear from folks at dealerships - your opinion and observations would be valued, even if there is some level of disagreement.

[TheGillz]

I've used my completely stock X (only have the limited slip) plenty off road and on difficult terrain....

please, do tell...

Acually never mind. This has been gone over ad nausium in a million different 4.0 v. 3.8 threads, and I doubt anything new could be added to the discusion.

The fact is the JK is a more solid peice of offroad in every way than the TJ except it has the same 6 speed tranny, and the engine. The engine debate is over. Gears fix the lack of low end torque issues.

Yawn.

[Root Moose]

Reading between the lines I'm guessing it is the front axle housings cracking that he is alluding too.

Or something else?

[madizell]

At the risk of perpetuating a debate I don't really want to get deeply into, I disagree that gears will fix whatever problems a motor might offer: gears can aid in the use of whatever power and torque is available, but can't cause the motor to make more power and torque than it already does, nor do gears change where in the power band power is made.

Jeep rates the new 3.8L V-6 with what, on paper, looks like good power and more than adequate torque (205/237), but where the HP and torque peaks is just silly for an off road vehicle. The last time I was off road on anything that peaked torque at or above 4,000 rpm, I was riding a motocross bike.

As a comparison the old 3.7L V-6 that was used in Jeeps 40 years ago made 160hp and 240 ft/lb of torque, with peaks around 3,000 and 2,000 rpm respectively. A lot more usable off road, but still getting nearly 20mpg on the highway with a Rochester 2bbl carburetor. Because of the insane amount of low end torque, the older V-6 is very tolerant of tire and load changes without needing gear changes.

Gearing changes will tend to make better use of power available at the more limited end of the spectrum, but these same changes will also shorten the useful range of each gear, so there is a trade-off. No one gets a free ride.

[Root Moose]

I'll disagree with a caveat.

Samurais with 1.3-1.6 liter engines, 5.12+ gears in the axle, 6:1 transfer cases and 35"+ tires seem to get around rock crawling quite nicely.

But, no one said it was fast or a pleasant highway experience. :)

What really pisses me off about the JK is the crappy build quality. In this day and age I shouldn't see thin paint in the door jambs. I shouldn't see nasty plastic mouldings around the windshield frame that look like they are about to fly off. I shouldn't see the side of the tub flex inward an inch or more with the impact of closing the rear doors.

I still love them and would likely buy one if the opportunity presented itself. These things wouldn't bother me if I didn't like them. As soon as they came out they made TJs look old fashioned to me.

But c'mon, we've had engineering CAD/CAM software that can do a proper analysis of these issues for a decade or two now. Get with it Jeep.

The cast axle tubes snapping don't bother me. It's annoying as all he!! like the stuff mentioned above but it wouldn't keep me from buying one (like the above). Weld on a truss and be happy.

As far as the engine is concerned, couldn't care. Sure, I'd prefer something with a lower torque peak but it is way down the list of things that bother me about the JK.

$0.02

[CA-RJ]

I'm still waiting to hear what you have to say.


It's complete and utter junk.

Do yourself a favor, avoid the Infinity sound package if at all possible, install your own stereo and add a Garmin or Baja540c. :26_7_2:

Though, personally, from someone who has been selling new Jeeps for a while, I wouldn't recommend ANYTHING made by them since 2006 (and that's only because the Wrangler still had the 4.0 then), to anyone who plans on using their vehicle off-road or in difficult terrain.

I could go into detail, but I don't want to offend anyone.

[TheGillz]

As long as the thread is officially hijacked....

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