CYi5's '99 4Runner Buildup [Archive]

CYi5

12-18-2008, 10:25 PM

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Vehicle
1999 Toyota 4runner Limited
3.4L V6 + E-Locker -> 4.30's stock

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Modifications

Suspension:
Donahoe Racing Extended Coilovers - 2.25"
Camburg Engineering Upper Control Arms
Icon Rear Piggy Back Reservoir Shocks
Old Man Emu 891 Springs
Timbren Front Bumpstops
Daystar KU09014BK Rear Bumpstops
Sonoran Steel Adjustable Panhard

Wheels & Tires:
285/75/16 Yokohama A/T-S
16x8 4.5" BS FZJ80 Land Cruiser Rims

Protection:
ARB Tacoma Winch Bullbar (Matching powdercoat)
DIY BruceTS styled rear bumper
Demello HD Round Sliders
Summit (Tmax) 9000 lb Winch + 75' of 3/8" Synthetic Rope

Performance:
AirAid MIT
TrueFlow Filter
B&M Transmission Cooler (70264)
OEM Muffler + turn down

Lighting:
2x Hella 4000 Metal Driving lights - HID 4500K Conversion

Interior:
Pioneer 5900IB Head Unit
Kicker 10" solobaric + Kicker 750w amp
ICOM IC-V8000 Ham Radio
Scanguage II
Custom Drawers
Edgestar 43qt. Refrigerator

Exterior:
20% Front Window Tint
Yakima Roof Mounting System
DIY Bolt-On Rear Swing out for fuel
DIY Awning

Mods still to add
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Note: This is a replacement vehicle for my last truck which I put way too much time and effort into. What I did gain from those years of modding was a love for Toyota quality and knowledge of modification.

R.I.P. Duke

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DR Coilovers ~ Camburg UCA's ~ Deaver 10 leaf ~ DR Rear Resi's ~ ARB Bullbar ~ Allpro Rear Wraparound ~ Hella 4000 HID's ~ Off Axis Sliders ~ 255/85/16 Maxxis Bighorns ~ Etc.

Some parts I was able to salvage and swap over to the new rig, namely lights, interior goodies, and coilovers.

CYi5

12-18-2008, 10:41 PM

For those looking to purchase a 3rd Gen 4Runner read on, if you already own one, feel free to skip forward.

While I love having a truck for keeping me and cargo separate, the lack of space for passengers was always an issue. I almost purchased another Tacoma when the 4Runner popped into my head as an option.

The 4Runner is essentially a Tacoma; same front suspension and engine, so I already had knowledge on how to work on the vehicle. After much research about what year I was looking for, I narrowed it down to 1999-2000. They are essentially the same vehicle so either was fine with me. I picked these two years mainly because of the transfer case. These are the only two years Toyota offered the Multi-mode transfercase. It offers 2hi, 4hi, 4lo, and AWD. Planning to move somewhere with snowy winters I knew I wanted the AWD option. The limited models were the only ones offered with this transfercase so that helped narrow my decision down even further. From my previous experience with a TRD 4x4 Tacoma, I also knew how invaluable the locker was. As an added bonus, 4Runners with an e-locker and 265/70 sized tires stock typically came with 4.30 gears, compared to the normal 4.10's of other 4Runners and Tacomas. This helps take the edge off of 285/75 tires or perfect for 265/75's.

So the search was on browsing autotrader, craigslist, and ebay among others. Keeping your eye out for that locker button on the dash is key to this part of the search, as most owners won't even know what it does and if you ask them if it has an electronic locker on it they will ask what it is. Eventually with some luck, you'll come out with a cleaner rig than your previous and for a good amount less than insurance paid out!

It's simply more comfortable plain and simple. While the interior is a little cheesy, the leather seats and overall climate inside the 4Runner is plush.

CYi5

12-18-2008, 11:03 PM

From previous experience with my Tacoma, I knew Donahoe Racing coilovers (now icon vehicle dynamics) gave the best all around ride for pretty much all environments. I always said if I were to do it again I would go OME all around, but since I was able to salvage my DR's I threw them on the 4Runner.

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Because they are extended, I needed to pick up some new UCA's too. I never had an issue running my old Camburg UCA's on the Tacoma and spending an extra $300 just wasn't worth it for Total Chaos.

I appreciated the added stability to the front end compared to stock.

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The Timbren bump stops that are added to the lower control arms make the ride night and day. It really softens up the big dips and nosedives when off road. If you can pick up a used set like I did, they are definitely worth it. The $150 retail price tag is a bit steep but I think they are a necessary addition to the front end short of airbumps.

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For the rear I read that if you are going to get OME springs, it is best to match an OME shock to it as well. So far my experience with the 890's has been good paired with the N86C comfort shock. It seems apparent that I will need to upgrade to the 891's (more constant load capability) as I will be adding a drawer system soon. However, they perform well on the street and the dirt, true coil comfort.

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It came installed with airbags from the previous owner and they do a good job of keeping the rear elevated when loaded. I also picked up the Sonoran steel adjustable panhard bar as I wanted to do it right the first time. In hindsight I would have just stayed with the stock bar. The difference when adjusted to the lift height of the 890's (2.5") is maybe 1/4" difference. Certainly not enough to justify the pricetag. Now if I ever upgrade to some Land Cruiser FZJ80 coils, I will be happy I have the ability to adjust. But for now, it just looks burly under there.

CYi5

12-18-2008, 11:13 PM

As far as communication goes, I ran CB radios for a few years with mixed results. Sometimes it would be nice and crisp and other times it would be crazy feedback. Eventually the guys I go wheeling with and myself switched over to HAM radios. The clarity is awesome and range is even better. I chose the ICOM IC-V8000 as there is a lot of information on it in the desert racing world, plus I got a sweet rebate from the purchase.

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I was really trying not to go ghetto on this rig as it is essentially a weekend wheeler, with 90% of its life on the streets. So in the interest of passenger legroom, I mounted the radio in the DIN slot underneath my head unit. At times it will interfere with my music, while most of the time it works fine. I ran an extension from the back of the HAM underneath the carpet and out an existing slot in the carpet under the passenger seat. This way I just throw on my magnet antenna, route the antenna down the back of the runner and up along the passenger side under the carpets.

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As a fun toy left over from my Tacoma is the ScanGuage II. It's a pretty useful tool for comparing snorkel temps with your buddies or just as a code reader. Every time I hit rough dirt I tend to throw a CEL for an O2 sensor, when I know for a fact that it was replaced just before I purchased it. I can simply reset it with the ScanGuage and I can go on with my life without that pesky light staring at me.

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Because it's a daily driver, I do have some audio equipment in it. If I didn't get a serious price cut from Kicker I probably wouldn't have these goodies, but they are hard to resist. They include the headunit, a 750w amp under the driver's seat, and the 10" solobaric sub in box. I plan to build a drawer system around it this weekend, at which time I can remove the sub while wheeling and place my air compressor in the same cubby hole.

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CYi5

12-18-2008, 11:17 PM

I had initially planned to run 16x8 Land Cruiser rims, and actually purchased them. While they were being shipped to me, a deal came up on customtacos for 285/75/16 Nitto Terragrapplers mounted on 16x8 American Racing Teflon Chambers. I had always wanted to run these rims since my Tacoma days, and I was also set on Nitto Terragrapplers due to their impressive offroad performance combined with quiet sound levels at highway speeds.

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They haven't failed me yet, we'll see how they do in the snow in a few days. The next set will probably be more terragrapplers but in the 265/75 size for a little more power.

CYi5

12-18-2008, 11:27 PM

Plans always do seem to change. I was dead set on getting a Shrockworks bumper for the front of this rig. The 10 week waiting period was somewhat of a turn off plus the idea of having to cut into my grill to run my Hella 4000's. That's what it takes to get quality I guess, but driving long stretches on the 395 last month made me want to speed up the addition of my lights back onto the rig. I came upon a new in box ARB Tacoma bumper that I was familiar with from having one on my old truck.

As it's pretty much a street queen right now anyways, I decided to have it powder coated to match the rest of the limited package trim.

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The mounting of the ARB on the 4Runner seems way more stout that it was on my 2001 Tacoma. The Tacoma requires an added block to lengthen the frame. This entails bolts going through the already weak framehorns. The 4Runner uses the tow hook bolts as well as a bolt placed through the frame. I feel much more confident winching with the 4Runner when the time comes.

I recently go my lights mounted and wired up as well, I can turn night into day once again. The are Hella 4000 metal driving lights that have been converted to use a 6000k HID kit. If you are interested in doing this conversion it can be seen here (http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82281). This can be done for around $250, a worthy price for what you get.

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I will try to get a night pic up later for you to see the comparisons.

CYi5

12-18-2008, 11:34 PM

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Johnson Valley, CA

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Tea Kettle Junction. Death Valley, CA

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Death Valley, CA

School and work don't leave much time for wheeling :( More trips soon to come! Stay tuned!

laxtoy

12-19-2008, 12:04 AM

pics aren't coming in for me

Zam15

12-19-2008, 01:32 AM

The images work fine for me. :drool: Nice build, sorry to hear about your old rig :(

SOAZ

12-19-2008, 01:49 AM

The images work fine for me. :drool: Nice build, sorry to hear about your old rig :(

Really. Huh, I just see red x's too.

datrupr

12-19-2008, 02:56 AM

The pics weren't coming in for me either. But if you right click on the red x and go to properties, close that window and then right click on the red x again and click on show picture it should come up for you. It worked for me, though time consuming, but I didnt have anything else to do.

Nice build up, the truck looks good.

Super Doody

12-19-2008, 03:46 AM

As a fun toy left over from my Tacoma is the ScanGuage II. It's a pretty useful tool for comparing snorkel temps with your buddies or just as a code reader. Every time I hit rough dirt I tend to throw a CEL for an O2 sensor, when I know for a fact that it was replaced just before I purchased it. I can simply reset it with the ScanGuage and I can go on with my life without that pesky light staring at me.

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Sorry to hear about your truck but your 4 runner is looking awesome:D

On the scan gauge, if you have tires any size other than stock, the mpg, speed and odometer will be off. The scan gauge is hooked up the OBDII connector which is essential reading ECM unit factory programed based on stock tire size. Unless there is an adjustment on the unit?

CYi5

12-19-2008, 07:17 AM

Damn my bad guys. Might be because i'm hosting them on picasa which is a members site. I've swapped them all over to a different hosting site, hopefully no more red :removeredX: !

Scanguage: there is a setting in the unit where you can adjust it +/- a certain percentage to compensate for tires or gearing. It's easy to just correlate the % to an actual GPS reading. I look at my scanguage for my speed now, i don't even use the actual speedo. But you are correct, the odometer will be reading less miles than I am actually traveling. I'll try to get a photo of the screen for you.

taco chaser

12-19-2008, 02:08 PM

Nice start to the build up. :coffeedrink: The adjustable trac bar was a good purchase even if it is only a 1/4" gain for now, thats just that much less stress on your frame and brackets when flexed out to it's normal max.

I think the red x's everyone is talking about were the photo's SAR Squid tried posting, those are the only x's I'm seeing on my side of the screen.

bac0701

12-19-2008, 03:06 PM

looks sick,, ive been thinking about getting a 4runner my single cab and i doubt an ext cab would be enough room to do a trip to the moutain. thanks for that info looks great.

cltypes32

12-19-2008, 06:19 PM

Nice bumper. You didn't waste anytime getting that thing painted. Sweet build!!

Just out of curiosity...why would you do a OME setup over the Icons?

Willman

12-19-2008, 09:11 PM

Great looking runner!

Any details on how your last rig ended up trashed?

I like where you put your scan gauge!

:)

ttora4runner

12-19-2008, 09:23 PM

Looks good.

ExploringNH

12-19-2008, 09:50 PM

CYi5

12-19-2008, 10:02 PM

Looks good. I like the wheels. I second the opinion of the "wishing I didnt get the adjustable track bar".

Also, they arent as sturdy as they seem.

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Yikes, I didn't know that could happen..I guess they aren't quite as stout on the inside as they look on the outside.

Details of accident: My buddy was driving my rig too fast on a dirt road headed to the grand canyon. Did well on all the straight stuff and then the road made a slight left at the same time as a slight rise. The end got light and subsequently fishtailed leading to a 3 roll accident. 30 miles out of town with no cell reception and no luck on the HAM. Luckily someone drove by an hour later before my buddy lost too much blood from a head wound. We are fortunate it didn't happen at night!

CYi5

12-19-2008, 10:07 PM

Nice bumper. You didn't waste anytime getting that thing painted. Sweet build!!

Just out of curiosity...why would you do a OME setup over the Icons?

I mainly stick to medium-difficult trails and dirt roads for back country touring. For the level of offroading seen by a weekend wheeler rig, the extra travel and cost aren't really worth it. $1,500 compared to what? $300? $400?. Don't get me wrong, they ride great and the smooth cycling from the UCA's is plush; I also have never actually ridden in an OME equipted Tacoma/4Runner so I can't compare the two for sure. For a well rounded rig, i just believe OME is a good all-around platform.

If a mod wants to clear up the posts regarding to red X's, would be appreciated ;).

taco chaser

12-20-2008, 12:17 AM

Looks good. I like the wheels. I second the opinion of the "wishing I didnt get the adjustable track bar".

Also, they arent as sturdy as they seem.

http://exploringnh.com/images/UserUploads/BentTracBar.jpgDamn, looks like they need to up the diameter and gage thickness. Is it 1.25" x 120 wall?? Maybe a 1.5 or 1.75 x .250 wall would do it?? Was there any damage to the frame or brackets??

xcmountain80

12-20-2008, 12:37 AM

CYi5

12-20-2008, 12:39 AM

Oh now that's HOT!!!

Aaron

Haha thanks man. Your pics came in handy when installing the ARB!

xcmountain80

12-20-2008, 01:24 AM

Oh I'm headed to the body shop to get mine painted to match for sure, that is awesome!

Aaron

ExploringNH

12-20-2008, 01:37 AM

Damn, looks like they need to up the diameter and gage thickness. Is it 1.25" x 120 wall?? Maybe a 1.5 or 1.75 x .250 wall would do it?? Was there any damage to the frame or brackets??

The bar is 1.5" x .120 wall DOM tube. There was no damage to the frame or brackets. The good thing is that the bar is adjustable. A few more cranks out to compensate for the bend and its the right length again.

Just so Im not hijacking the thread here...I would recommend against a T-Max winch right now. Its a great winch (I have one), but they dont have any in the US for sale and the current owner has no plans to distribute. Finding parts or getting the winch serviced if anything happens to it will be a nightmare. This situation may change in the future, but right now the outlook isnt so good. Summit no longer carries the TMax rebranded winch either. This summer they were getting rid of old stock. I think all they had left at that point were a few atv winches. The Warn is tried and true. Another winch to consider is Superwinch. They are a fairly local company to me and everyone out here uses them. They can take the abuse and pricing isnt too bad on them.

CYi5

12-20-2008, 01:56 AM

The bar is 1.5" x .120 wall DOM tube. There was no damage to the frame or brackets. The good thing is that the bar is adjustable. A few more cranks out to compensate for the bend and its the right length again.

Just so Im not hijacking the thread here...I would recommend against a T-Max winch right now. Its a great winch (I have one), but they dont have any in the US for sale and the current owner has no plans to distribute. Finding parts or getting the winch serviced if anything happens to it will be a nightmare. This situation may change in the future, but right now the outlook isnt so good. Summit no longer carries the TMax rebranded winch either. This summer they were getting rid of old stock. I think all they had left at that point were a few atv winches. The Warn is tried and true. Another winch to consider is Superwinch. They are a fairly local company to me and everyone out here uses them. They can take the abuse and pricing isnt too bad on them.

Aaron - I've heard of body shops charging crazy amounts to color match to your truck. I didn't look around personally as I wanted something that would not chip off when hit repeatedly by bugs as i've seen some painted bumpers do. Powdercoat isn't very expensive and will hold up better in the long run I think. Only problem is trying to get a good match :(.

Really, I wasn't aware Summit was dropping the rebranded T-Maxx. I like the idea of an M8000 with synth and all the light stuff weighing in around 50 lbs, so i'll most likely go that route. Winchdepot.com always seems to have good deals on their warn's. Thanks.

xcmountain80

12-20-2008, 02:10 AM

Well I found a good guy through my brother as he just got Baja fenders glassed and matched as well as some other scratches and body fill in of the front doors to match the fenders for $500. I was like dang that seems pricey but had a taken a b4 and after wow! The guy made the fenders match the hood and doors it looked sooo good. I will call him next week and see how much to paint the bumper. Hell while I'm at it I might get my roof painted too!

Aaron

ExploringNH

12-20-2008, 02:15 AM

Really, I wasn't aware Summit was dropping the rebranded T-Maxx. I like the idea of an M8000 with synth and all the light stuff weighing in around 50 lbs, so i'll most likely go that route. Winchdepot.com always seems to have good deals on their warn's. Thanks.

I got my winch from winchdepot. Good prices and great service.

CYi5

12-24-2008, 03:38 AM

Went up to Big Bear for the day on Monday. Beautiful day full of sledding and back country driving. Visibility dropped significantly coming down the mountain; I'd guess 5-10 ft. on some stretches. Pretty sketchy but a good trip overall.

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red87

12-25-2008, 06:11 AM

looking good man, I'm jealous of the snow trip

CYi5

01-27-2009, 01:23 AM

New paint job....maaaaybe?:elkgrin:

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xcmountain80

01-27-2009, 01:39 AM

Looks cool, I though a metal rivet paint job would be awesome.
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Aaron

red87

01-27-2009, 04:42 AM

New paint job....maaaaybe?:elkgrin:

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as much as I want to give you crap for that, I actually like it

CYi5

01-27-2009, 05:16 AM

as much as I want to give you crap for that, I actually like it

skeptics...! :snorkel:

red87

01-27-2009, 07:34 PM

add a snorkel and then paint it like that

CYi5

02-06-2009, 12:57 AM

Red87 and myself had the opportunity to enjoy surprisingly warm January weather by running the Mojave Road. We crossed the desert along the usual Needles to Barstow route and encountered a few groups of travelers along the way.

This was our group's beginning along the Colorado River in Nevada on a Friday evening.

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Mojave Road had a lot more whoops than I was expecting, it really got the vehicles bucking during certain sections. Other times it was smooth cruising around 35mph.

We used a guide book to the road to highlight many of the oddities found along the way, as well as historical sites. The first night was spent at the entrance of Fort Piute which we had a chance to explore the next morning.

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Moving on we stopped to revel in the glory of THE penny can and contributed to the savings plan.

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We eventually ran across a spring that lies completely in the shade during this time of the year. As a result, it was frozen all the way across and was thick enough to explore.

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As we approached Soda Lake in the dark, we thought it best to camp and wait for daylight to check out the condition of the lakebed and see if it was crossable.

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Approaching traveler's monument in the middle of Soda Lake, we ran into a club outing of FJ Cruisers. Many finely built rigs among them, if only their environmental ethics matched. I kid you not, 20 out of 25 rigs proceeded to spin donuts at full throttle across the salt bed. I was embarrassed to even be in their vicinity as these antics went down. It's tough to defend our hobby when large displays like this happen at organized events.

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Moving along, we proceeded past the dunes and under the rail bridge that spans the Mojave River. Just beyond this point, cliffs with massive headward erosion line the road.

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Towards the end of the journey, the road crosses a deep section of the Mojave River. Red87 had a little issue crossing as the intake on the 1st gens seem to be directly behind the grill. As a result, the truck took a big gulp of water and proceeded to stall out mid crossing.

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After giving him a pull and some time to dry out his engine components the 22R started up with vigor. It had a tick in the engine for a bit and we suspected a rod or valve had broken, but the noise cleared up ten minutes later.

Overall it was a great trip and wouldn't hesitate to do it again. Daytime temps were in the 70's and nights hovered in the 40's. Seemed we just lucked out on a beautiful weekend to be away from the city!

CYi5

02-06-2009, 01:11 AM

Full album of pics (http://picasaweb.google.com/JupiterFolly/MojaveRoad#)

BigAl

02-06-2009, 01:23 AM

Looks cool, I though a metal rivet paint job would be awesome.

Just put the rivets closer to the seams. Why would there be rivits just down the middle of a panel?:bike_rider:

Layonnn

02-06-2009, 01:28 AM

i was not a member of the FJ group, haha. That is too far of a drive for me.

You have those types in all wheeling groups, but for most of them to be doing it is sad.

I really like your 4runner build. That gen 4runner is my favorite of them all and was a close choice when considering the FJ.

red87

02-06-2009, 01:34 AM

CYi5 neglected to add the pictures of our tasty breakfast cooked by yours truly.

I started with some potatoes and onions in a pan with a little oil and then added the soyrizo.
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Once the soyrizo cooked for a while and became less gross looking I added the happy eggs.
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My epic one handed egg cracking skills.
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We also had some nice espresso, courtesy of my dad's backpacking expresso machine.
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red87

02-06-2009, 01:35 AM

We also saw the emu of justice on the traveler's monument on Soda Lake
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/thatsnowinnebago/emuofjustice.jpg

Layonnn

02-06-2009, 01:42 AM

Once the soyrizo cooked for a while and became less gross looking I added the happy eggs.

haha, i was going to say it looked like red..... well something that my dog does outside.

CYi5

02-06-2009, 02:15 AM

that's a nice pink frying pan :). Thanks Layonnn!

red87

02-06-2009, 06:50 AM

that's a nice pink frying pan :). Thanks Layonnn!

I'm pretty sure that pan came with you...

CYi5

02-27-2009, 08:50 PM

Finally got around to taking pictures of projects I've put together lately.

First up, a pretty basic cargo storage platform. I made it wrap around my sub box to keep it low as well as secure it where it sits. I anchored the box down using the stock tie-down locations using the body nuts. It's nice having a wide short cubby as well as a long skinny one.

I initially started building drawers but ditched the idea for lack of sliders as well as tools to make them stout enough. It allows me to carry gear I would normally have in my old truck's toolbox; tow strap, first aid, jumper cables, straps/netting, tool roll, breaker bar, bolt cutters, extra water.

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One of the sides was perfect for storing maglights, an otherwise wasted piece of space.

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I relocated the tiedowns to the front of the platform, this holds my military box full of camping stuff, when I go on the next outing i'll update a pic of how it is secured using straps.

It's just tall enough not to block the side cubby from opening.

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I'm really happy how it increases the organized space in the runner and it really helped on hauling snow camping gear for 4 up to Mammoth for a week.

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CYi5

02-27-2009, 08:57 PM

I also upgraded the headunit awhile back, simply because I had a hookup and it cost me $40 for the upgrade.

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For those of you who have switched out your headunits, an unfortunate side effect is that your power antenna goes up as soon as your radio powers on, regardless of whether you're in CD/iPod or radio. It really makes me nervous taking a power antenna through low hanging trees, so I wired up an interrupt switch for the antenna. I also don't like having unnecessary drag while driving (slim i know..) and it reduces wear on the antenna motor.

It's a blue/white wire for those looking to do the same on a metra wiring harness. I placed the switch down by my feet in a factory metal plate.

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CYi5

02-27-2009, 09:05 PM

With the OME 890's and DR's cranked to around 2.25" of lift, the truck sat almost dead level. While this looks and performs great when empty, as soon as I added weight for a trip the rear would sag. To remedy the increase in weight, I would often fill up the airbags a bit and that equals a bouncy ride when wheeling.

To alleviate the stress on the airbags I added a set of 10mm OME trim packers to the rear. This would allow the suspension to compress as normal without hard bottom outs or rubbing. The trim packers optimally should have a stock bumpstop to keep them centered in the spring, something the previous owner ditched when they installed airbags. Thanks to wmflyfisher who donated his stock cones for the project! I had to cut off half of the bump to fit it inside the spring in combination with the airbag.

The stock bump lip plus the 10mm OME ring resulted in 3/4" lift, not bad for $50 in parts & shipping.

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The running boards went back on due to a move as well as rock protection when I ran the Mojave road. I'm itching to pick up some Stubbs sliders, but just graduating college + wanting to move somewhere internationally is holding it up.

Overland Hadley

02-28-2009, 03:43 PM

Looking good.

bac0701

03-19-2009, 03:13 PM

looks great mang, thanks for all the info, my single cab is probly going to be bought back in the summer so i figured id get a runner. hows the gas mileage with that tire setup?

CYi5

03-19-2009, 03:39 PM

Thanks bac, on long flats I can get 19, consistent hills around 16. I'm dropping down to 265/75/16's today to get ready for an upcoming roadtrip to CO. It will be nice to have power back again in the hills.

xcmountain80

03-19-2009, 04:13 PM

CYi5

03-20-2009, 12:11 AM

You could remedy this by using FZJ80 springs like most of us, they are good for loading gear on and or towing. They will sag about 2 years down the road with multiple heavy load trips. with camping gear, tools, engel 45, and RTT, the sag is minimal and going offroad isn't a problem. Next time mine are ready for a swap I'll let you know.

Aaron

That's always an option. I think the reason I decided not to run them in the first place was that everyone was getting different amounts of lift from certain years and the patterns have still not been totally documented. I don't think I can handle 4" of rear lift now, mainly because the 265/75's are tiny as is :(...but it sure is perky again!:wings:

xcmountain80

03-20-2009, 06:26 AM

I understand and the 99 was the off year if I remeber correctly. I think 3-3 3/4' is more accurate but I can measure if you like. Up front I have the bili 1500's and 1 ..3/8"spacer to keep it level. Ride is great slighty harsh in the back with no load but load her up and tada. Now 265's would look silly on my truck as it's ready for 315's.

Aaron

joetaco

03-30-2009, 08:43 AM

great build kevo!

CYi5

03-31-2009, 07:22 PM

The time finally came to deck out the yakima crossbars with offroad goodies that don't belong inside. The heavy items are mounted on 48" crossbars.

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Components: Shovel, 60" Hi-Lift, 39½" x 36" x 2¾" Roof Basket

Utilizing Yakima snaparounds, I mounted the 60" Hi-lift using 5/16" carriage bolts, the square seat fits much better in the snaparounds than the bolts supplied with them. 5/16" fender washers also fit perfectly in the hi-lift grooves preventing any shifting.

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For the shovel, I used snaparounds again for the mounts, fabricated a metal sleeve for the blade to fit in up front, and ended up with a quickfist to hold the handle.

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The roof basket took a little more consideration. I knew i wanted it low to avoid excess drag and tree branch contact. To fit where I needed it it also had to be less than 40"x36". After a little searching online I found a strong candidate. The Rooftop Cargo Rack from www.discountramps.com was perfect! 39½" x 36" x 2¾" and only 14 lbs! With a price of $100 shipped I couldn't pass it up.

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After a little juggling of the crossbars and reversing the front factory bars I was able to get it on. I mounted the basket to the factory bars instead of the yakimas for a few reasons. 1) It would mount lower. 2) It would mount behind the yakima wind fairing. 3) The rack mounts fit the factory curves better. 4) It barely fits between the yakima bars mounted up, i'm talking centimeters!!

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Notes about the rack quality. It's capacity is 150lbs, and that is obviously evenly distributed. The crossbars are a little flimsy besides the metal rods that brace the brackets. I almost wish the entire floor was made out of those rods, however that would also increase the weight. I foolishly thought the sides would be laser cut solid pieces, however, they appear to be stamped sheet metal. But really, for $79 and the fact that it fits my needs and dimensions perfectly, this thing is a steal.

DiscountRamps also has stretch nets for baskets for around $15 shipped, I will end up buying one of those eventually to keep my light cargo secure.

CYi5

03-31-2009, 07:28 PM

The most enjoyable part may have been reading the instructions.

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weezerbot

03-31-2009, 09:39 PM

WOW! That is really a great set-up!

CYi5

07-01-2009, 07:32 AM

Little update on wheels/tires. I decided to switch to a 235/85 tire just for kicks. I've run 255/85's in the past and liked them, so decided to give the 32" version a chance. I was originally going to go with BFG KM2's, but none involved free shipping online so I cruised a bit more.

I ended up with a set of 235/85 Hankook Dynapro MT's. Good reviews everywhere I looked...but these mofos are heavy (45-49lbs.).

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So far i'm happy with the purchase, they do have a hum to them, but not as loud as many other MT's.

CYi5

07-01-2009, 07:37 AM

Also taking a roadtrip to Colorado shortly, and decided to build an awning. Buying one would be awesome, but spending $250+ for something you'll use a few times a month, if that, doesn't really justify the investment. Soo, I built this system for $30 with most of the materials coming from your local Harbor Freight.

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OldSven

07-01-2009, 03:47 PM

I'm liking the rack up there, I've noticed going from a Tacoma to 4runner there isn't as many places to put stuff like axe and shovel what not. Hey let us know how you like the Hanhook's, they look like an awsome tire.

TACODOC

07-01-2009, 04:40 PM

Looks great! I really like the rack and those Hankooks are tempting! :drool:

weezerbot

07-01-2009, 05:27 PM

I've heard good things about the Hankooks!

xcmountain80

07-01-2009, 10:14 PM

Nice tires though seemingly sissy size, but I will be jealous of your mpg gain. :)

Aaron

wmflyfisher

07-02-2009, 12:08 AM

Looks awesome Kevin! IMO, those wheels look a lot better than the black ones you had!

CYi5

07-02-2009, 12:12 AM

Nice tires though seemingly sissy size, but I will be jealous of your mpg gain. :)

Aaron

Haha sissy size! I just choose not to follow the flock, although it's not uncommon on here :elkgrin:. They are skinny, but they're heavy mofos...45-49 lbs each :(.

Thanks for the comments guys and gals, it is amazing how some new shoes can dress up an outfit. You sell your 4runner already wmflyfisher?? Saw the new truck though, yum!

xcmountain80

07-02-2009, 12:47 AM

Photog

07-02-2009, 02:41 AM

I think the 235/85R16 ar load range E.

Beefy.

xcmountain80

07-02-2009, 02:55 AM

I think the 235/85R16 ar load range E.

Beefy.

Ohhh but you know my brother had the Nitto's in a load E and really couldn't tell a whole heck of allot of difference other than weight I guess. It was on his 06 Taco double cab and it must be something to do with the 17" rims that the manufacturers made an E.

Aaron

CYi5

07-02-2009, 03:09 AM

I think the 235/85R16 ar load range E.

Beefy.

Yea they are E rated, but i'm pretty sure the sidewall is still only 2 plies. When aired down and pushing on the rubber it still feels pretty flexible, so I'm not too worried about stiffness, i'll post back when I get a chance to encounter some rocks with them.

CYi5

07-02-2009, 03:11 AM

Yep news wheels rock smaller tires no problem in my book, but for weight my SSR's in a 285 laced up to the Limited wheels tipped the shipping scale near 80lbs, and when you went to stop you knew it. I have already determined I could have a set shipped to my door off ebay for a darn good price as MT's go, lemme know how you like em.

Aaron

80 lbs is up there alright. My 255/85 Bighorns on Stock 16x7 alloys was 75 lbs. I have a set of 4.56's sitting in the garage, but don't really feel like dealing with regearing this rig. Hoping for the 4.30's to pull their weight a little more ;).

xcmountain80

07-02-2009, 03:28 AM

80 lbs is up there alright. My 255/85 Bighorns on Stock 16x7 alloys was 75 lbs. I have a set of 4.56's sitting in the garage, but don't really feel like dealing with regearing this rig. Hoping for the 4.30's to pull their weight a little more ;).

Should almost be a non-issue with the 32's and the V-6 but it seems as there is always something else to be desired. I'd say pull it apart and drop your chunks off to have it done but unless you have another car it might take a bit not to mention the front is an absolute mess to tear into.

Aaron

rdgt4r

07-02-2009, 11:27 PM

CYi5

07-02-2009, 11:36 PM

Geez Shasta Bally! i remember when you guys would invite me to wheel........
so riley said you had tough time getting up the hill and if you had an Xterra it would have made the trip easier. :bike_rider:

I never get an invite out to the infamously treacherous Susanville area, so what's it to ya ;). It actually was wide open throttle a lot of the way up it...I was pretty disappointed in the stupid auto tranny:mad:. I'd love to swap it out for a manual when it eventually kicks the bucket, but it's got all that fancy AWD stuff built into it..

wmflyfisher

07-03-2009, 01:11 AM

You sell your 4runner already wmflyfisher??

Haven't had time to get it ready lately! It will be soon though

CYi5

07-28-2009, 03:45 AM

Here are some recent photos from a 2 week, 3,700 mile solo trip from northern California, throughout Colorado, and then down to Southern California.:smiley_drive: Was the first really long trip i've taken with the 4Runner since I got it last August. Though a supercharger would be nice in the high elevations in Colorado...

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Bonneville Salt Flats

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Camping just northwest of the flats, testing out the new awning setup.

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Window Sox, brought back from a trip to Australia. They're made for an 01+ CR-V, but I was lucky enough to guesstimate the size correctly. They are great for ventilation and to keep bugs out at night. You can also leave them on all the time, as they're made to provide UV protection when you have babies on board.

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Echo Park, Dinosaur National Monument. Beautiful campground which is a treat to get to! Bring insect repellent!:yikes:

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Hankooks performed awesomely. Not too loud at highway speeds and no noticeable slippage on the gravel. When they say they've incorporated rock ejectors, they mean it...these things huck rocks like crazy. There were some large silt beds to plow through on the way to Toroweap and they performed very well. I'll be adding 1" wheel spacers in the future for a little more stability, however. The 5.25" BS feels a little iffy taking highway speed turns.

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Toroweap, north rim of the Grand Canyon. It's pretty awesome to drive 80 miles offroad and have an isolated campground all to yourself with a view overlooking the Grand Canyon!:wings:

Rest of the pictures (http://picasaweb.google.com/JupiterFolly/ColoradoTrip09#) including Rocky Mountain National Park, Mesa Verde National Park, Telluride, Dinosaur National Monument, Estes Park, Grand Canyon, and Rye Patch Reservoir.

CYi5

07-28-2009, 03:56 AM

For these two weeks of sleeping in my car I tried out Weezerbot's setup of the Roll-A-Cot in the back. I'm a side sleeper so the cot didn't work out quite as well as I was expecting :(. I ended up putting an air mattress on top of it, resulting in about 5" of headroom. Soo I may be going back to the ol' tent setup.

I would love to run a rooftop tent again, but don't want to put the 120 lb. wind dam back on my roof. I wish the Oasis II lightweight tents would drop in price similar to the campinglabs/RTT and I'd buy another one. Maybe someday someone will come out with an affordable lightweight RTT.

DrJohn

07-28-2009, 05:23 PM

Great looking 'runner!

How is your homemade awning treating you after you got a chance to camp with it?

CYi5

07-28-2009, 06:27 PM

Great looking 'runner!

How is your homemade awning treating you after you got a chance to camp with it?

Thanks DrJohn, it worked out pretty well. I want to sew up a zippered sleeve for it so that I can leave it attached to the truck, leave the poles attached, and then just roll it up and bag it securely. The sides also flap in the wind, to be expected as it doesn't have side supports. But hanging anything slightly heavy to a side grommet fixes the issue. For what I paid and the amount i'll be using it i'd call it a success.

DrJohn

07-28-2009, 10:12 PM

Thanks DrJohn, it worked out pretty well. I want to sew up a zippered sleeve for it so that I can leave it attached to the truck, leave the poles attached, and then just roll it up and bag it securely. The sides also flap in the wind, to be expected as it doesn't have side supports. But hanging anything slightly heavy to a side grommet fixes the issue. For what I paid and the amount i'll be using it i'd call it a success.

Very nice. I may have to copy you on this one - shade is essential :cool:

LexusAllTerrain

08-23-2009, 06:25 AM

Hankooks performed awesomely. Not too loud at highway speeds and no noticeable slippage on the gravel. When they say they've incorporated rock ejectors, they mean it...these things huck rocks like crazy. There were some large silt beds to plow through on the way to Toroweap and they performed very well.

I agree with you, these are great tires!:sombrero:

NCtrailX

08-23-2009, 10:51 AM

LexusAllTerrain

08-23-2009, 04:02 PM

Sorry to jump in, but I'm looking for more feedback on the Hankooks. Looking for an aggressive tire that rolls well, with low(er) road noise and good wet handling. Want the attributes of an AT with better performance offroad.

The Hankooks look like a nice compromise. How have they been on the road and in the wet? Going on my daily driver and most of my exploring trips involve a lot of road time to get to the good stuff.

I am very happy with the Hankooks offroad, in road they are not an AT tire, but not too much noise!

I have them in the 295-75-16, however I am considering the Duratrac as my next AT tire in 315-75-16 after I regear!

CYi5

08-23-2009, 05:53 PM

Sorry to jump in, but I'm looking for more feedback on the Hankooks. Looking for an aggressive tire that rolls well, with low(er) road noise and good wet handling. Want the attributes of an AT with better performance offroad.

The Hankooks look like a nice compromise. How have they been on the road and in the wet? Going on my daily driver and most of my exploring trips involve a lot of road time to get to the good stuff.

The only rain i've seen thus far was the occasional thunderstorm in CO while on the freeway and they didn't seem to have any trouble. They are loudest around 45 mph, but that is common to most MT's. Once you get up to 55+ they are a smooth ride. If I jump back up to 285/75's in the future I wouldn't mind running the Hankooks again! This is my daily driver and I have no problems having a conversation in the cab.

CYi5

08-23-2009, 08:33 PM

I spent yesterday building a security box for the center console. I wanted to make one for a couple reasons. First, to have lockable storage for when my vehicle is parked at the lake, etc. and its a nice place to leave a wallet/gps/cell phone if they can't be carried on me. Secondly, I wanted a place to legally store a firearm that was easily accessible if need be. When it's all said and done I don't think it is large enough to hold a sidearm, unless I get a snubnose revolver or the like.

I chose to do a combination cam-lock over standard key for ease of access to anyone I trust, leaving another key off the keyring, and the ability to open it without removing keys from the ignition.

Excuse the dark pictures, but you'll get the idea. Black metal box :).

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If I were to do it again i'd probably just get a keyed cam-lock: 1/3 the price, less clearance needed between box and console lid. The combination is just too cool though.:cool:

jim65wagon

08-27-2009, 09:34 PM

Nice 4Runner....love seeing the daily rides out doing the fun things in life. That sissy-sized tire looks like it fits perfectly and will get you wherever you want to go!

I'll be adding some new places to my "To Visit" file....like the Salt Flats and Dinosaur NP, etc. Nice photos!

evan

08-29-2009, 12:42 AM

I like the lockable box, where did you find it? Did you have to cut out anything in the console to make it fit.

CYi5

08-29-2009, 05:28 AM

I like the lockable box, where did you find it? Did you have to cut out anything in the console to make it fit.

I made it out of sheet steel. Cut out a pattern with a plasma cutter, then lots of bending, hammering, and grinding. No alterations to the console necessary, and it bolts in using the existing bolt holes in the floor.

CYi5

09-05-2009, 12:24 AM

I installed an inverter I found in the garage the other day. It's a Xantrex XPower 1000w that i'll mainly use for recharging the netbook and camera batteries. It's pretty far from the original battery which sucks, but i'll be keeping an eye on the temperature of the cable when in use.

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Mounted it to the rear of my sub. I threw in some rubber isolators so hopefully that takes a little of the vibration out of the equation. I'm not super worried, looking inside the inverter itself it seems to be very well manufactured.

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Fills up that little bit of wasted space nicely!

rover4x4

09-06-2009, 03:42 AM

sweet truck I like the late model wheels on it.

red87

09-09-2009, 06:43 AM

That looks like a mighty pricy combo lock there buddy :)

CYi5

09-21-2009, 02:17 AM

Got around to making drawers for my rear cargo storage. Turned out pretty precisely with the help of a table saw. I had to special order some extra long slides but at least they're rated for 100 lbs.

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There is enough room on the front left corner for a spare quart of oil and on the right 2 maglights in quickfists.

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red87

09-21-2009, 08:57 PM

I miss your chrome wheels

CYi5

09-21-2009, 09:55 PM

I miss your chrome wheels

If it didn't come with one center cap missing, i may have kept them. Chrome + Mud = rainy day in the parking lot?

red87

09-23-2009, 01:48 AM

If it didn't come with one center cap missing, i may have kept them. Chrome + Mud = rainy day in the parking lot?

Exactly, the Luxo-Cruiser needs more bling. Maybe a chromed snorkle would set it off

CYi5

09-23-2009, 02:44 AM

Nothin' but haters :PROFSheriffHL:

fattirerider

11-02-2009, 06:38 AM

Hey great build!

How do you like the Airaid mit? I have heard very different opinions on hp and mileage.

CYi5

11-02-2009, 07:26 AM

Hey great build!

How do you like the Airaid mit? I have heard very different opinions on hp and mileage.

Thank you sir. I couldn't really tell you if it does any good or not, the idea behind it seems sound, but actual gains i'm sure aren't all that. It certainly cleans up the engine compartment, however.

I got a good deal on it from a distributer misprint so I don't worry about it too much. I'd imagine the largest gains would be when it's paired with a supercharger. Had plans to do that from the beginning, but have gradually lost interest.

CYi5

11-20-2009, 08:16 PM

I've grown tired of the sucked in look and relative instability of the 5.25" BS TRD rims at highway speeds. Soo, made the move towards luxo-cruiser status by picking up some 80 series land cruiser rims.

Thanks to the original owner for not disclosing their condition more before I drove the distance to pick them up..."they clean up good," maybe not...

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After hours with the wire brush I knocked all of the clear coat down to achieve the brushed aluminum look. I will proceed painting them OEM silver again in the near future.

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The rims are 16x8 with 4.5" BS which is just about perfect for the 4Runner. Due to their quality OEM drop forged construction, each rim weighs 21 lbs.! They came mounted with 315/75/16s BFG A/Ts, and each tire/rim combo weighed 76 lbs.! I'm amazed, my current 235/85/16 on 16x7 is 82 lbs :REExeSquatsHL1:.

The 235/85's will be stretched a little bit to fit on the new 16x8's. If anyone wants the 35" BFGs, they have about 25% tread left (5-10k?) - $200.

CA-RJ

11-21-2009, 03:46 AM

Can't wait to see how your 235's look on the LC wheels. I've been wondering for some time if that tire would fit on my LC wheels. Please post pics!

tacollie

11-21-2009, 02:41 PM

I have lc wheel lust for a while. I am curious to see what they do to your tires.

xcmountain80

11-22-2009, 03:52 AM

Hey you sure they are 4.5" BS and not 3.5"? Unless the are the older wheels but I swear by Lx450 wheels are 3.5 otherwise my 295's would rub my UCA's. The stock limited 4Runner wheels were 4.5.

A

tacollie

11-22-2009, 05:21 AM

CYi5

11-22-2009, 06:39 AM

I am pretty sure they are 4.5. They stick out more because of the width and maybe thats why the 295s clear. Also, if they were 3.5 they should clear the tundra calipers but I am pretty sure they don't. CYi5 post pics of the tires mounted if you get a chance.

Yea i'll be doing the switch tomorrow morning pending america's tire doesn't give me any crap about it.

And ya, 4.5" BS, 3.5" would be way out there. It's just the 8" width that gives it that little better stance.

They should also clear the tundras (199mm at least.) When I sold my first set of 16x8 LC wheels, the buyer put the rim on the front of his 4runner with tundras and spun the wheel without problems to test it.

xcmountain80

11-22-2009, 05:58 PM

I am pretty sure they are 4.5. They stick out more because of the width and maybe thats why the 295s clear. Also, if they were 3.5 they should clear the tundra calipers but I am pretty sure they don't. CYi5 post pics of the tires mounted if you get a chance.

Really? Mine clear the Tundra calipers now they did not originally (I'm using the larger calipers)............ of course I had to mod the caliper a little but a little at that. Apparently I'm crazy and they are 4.25" which is close to 4.5 but what can I say. The extra inch of width has doen nothing but increas my stance the 16x7's kept the tire sucked in a bit.

LX 450 16x8
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/4Runner/Tires%20and%20Wheels/P2230650.jpg

Anyhow I feel the LC or LX wheels are the perfect match for anyone wanting to run 285's and up to 315 with little to no UCA issues.

A

tacollie

11-22-2009, 06:02 PM

I have the bigger tundra calipers. The 231mms I believe. I need to see if they will clear. That would be sweet.

RMP&O

11-22-2009, 07:35 PM

Usually I am not a fan of white trucks but yours looks good with the silver accents. With black accents I don't think it would look as good.

Great lock box you got for the console!

As far as that bent track bar in earlier pics....easy to fix that so it will never bend again. Chrome moly would do it. I prefer a solid 7075 aluminum bar though. Extremely strong, light and can flex. I have 7075 links on my offroader and have seen them bend with 6,000lbs of weight on them....only to bend back straight after the weight came off! Previous dom links bend pretty easy. I swear by the 7075 now! :)

CYi5

11-23-2009, 11:01 PM

Thanks for the comments RMP&O. Here are the final shots of the wheel project and pictures of the 235/85's on 16x8's for those that are interested. It does look a little 'froggy style' or 'hawaiian style' stretched over the rim, but there is still a little sidewall bulge. The tire noise increased slightly (at the same 35 psi), so I may do the chalk test to get the contact patch correct again. The width matches the limited flares perfectly as expected; fingers crossed I won't ever need a new set of rims!! I need to stop spending money on stupid tweaks and use it for gas $$$.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture001.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture003.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture009.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture006.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture005.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture010.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture013.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/LC%20Wheels/Picture011.jpg

CYi5

11-23-2009, 11:09 PM

Anyhow I feel the LC or LX wheels are the perfect match for anyone wanting to run 285's and up to 315 with little to no UCA issues.

A

These rims came with 315's on them, and i'll be honest that's what sucked me in. I test fitted one of them on the front, turned to the left, slight rub, turned back to center and my fender flare ripped off :Wow1:. I didn't feel like cutting plastic or doing the pinch weld mod on this truck, and BL wasn't really on my radar. 285's on LC/LX wheels is the perfect combo, I agree:safari-rig:.

red87

11-24-2009, 12:51 AM

Ah, nice and clean. I like it way better without the wheels being so far sucked in

Jnich77

11-24-2009, 01:07 AM

Nice paint job on the rims... great truck indeed.

deadbeat son

11-24-2009, 01:17 AM

Those wheels came out looking fantastic; great work! What paint did you use for them?

CYi5

11-24-2009, 01:56 AM

Those wheels came out looking fantastic; great work! What paint did you use for them?

Thanks, I was initially looking for the Duplicolor wheel paint that I've used in the past, but only came across the Rustoleum wheel paint variant. Turned out well enough for me, we'll see how long the results last.

I got away with one can of self etching primer and one can of the rustoleum paint.

CYi5

12-01-2009, 10:28 PM

Spent my day off making a little addition to the ARB. Since removing the limited bumper and associated fog lights I've missed that close up light on the road. I also don't like having a useless switch on my steering column.

I welded up some bolt-on brackets that would hold two rectangular lights. These fit in the openings reserved for hi-lift jacking and the winch clutch.

I originally planned to go with Hella FF75 fogs, but at $100 I didn't see it as worth the investment.

The affordable solution:
55w Pilot Driving Lights (PL-2055C) - $19.99 @ AutoZone

http://www.etrailer.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/bta/lights/pl-1055_dimensions.jpg

http://www.etrailer.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/bta/lights/drive_top.jpghttp://www.etrailer.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/bta/lights/drive_side.jpg

I used these on my last taco as reverse lights and found them to be a great value and perfect fit for the all-pro rear bumper. I tapped into the factory fog light wiring harness to utilize the OEM twist switch. Stock fogs are also 55w, so no need to worry about melting wires or fire hazard.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/Picture005.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/Picture009.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/Picture012.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/Picture013.jpg

red87

12-01-2009, 10:31 PM

Looking good man. How much more light do those guys throw on the road?

Photog

12-02-2009, 01:32 AM

It is a nice, clean mount. But, I think those holes are for jacking with your HiLift and air for the radiator.

CYi5

12-02-2009, 02:12 AM

It is a nice, clean mount. But, I think those holes are for jacking with your HiLift and air for the radiator.

Yep, I think you're right, haha. It's also access to your winch clutch. I'll monitor my temps and post if anything changes. If I get a winch down the road i'll probably ditch them, cause then every opening will be filled.

CYi5

12-13-2009, 10:45 PM

Added bump stops to aid in the harsh bottoming out in the rear.:safari-rig:

Parts list:
Daystar KU09014BK ~$35
2"x5"x3/16" Box ~Free (thanks to left over scrap from red87's bumper)
Misc. Hardware ~$3.00 (M8x1.25 = bolts that thread into stock bumpstop nut)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/bumps1.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/bumps2.jpg

ryani

12-17-2009, 03:07 AM

Just wondering how the handling of that rim/tire combination on road is. I have a 98 and am seriously considering the same setup with lc rims and the 235 hankook at tire.

CYi5

12-17-2009, 05:22 AM

Just wondering how the handling of that rim/tire combination on road is. I have a 98 and am seriously considering the same setup with lc rims and the 235 hankook at tire.

I have no issues with turning. It may roll over a little more on the shoulder of the tire because it's stretched a little bit, but other than that I haven't noticed anything.

ryani

12-17-2009, 05:39 PM

Great news! Thanks for the response. I stopped and talked to my local tire dealer and they said it shouldn't be a problem to put the 235 on the LC rims. Now I just have to paint mine and i'll be set.

CYi5

01-27-2010, 02:03 AM

I picked up my Demello sliders today in Corona, roughly one month after date of order. I took advantage of the Christmas sale so I didn't mind waiting. They are the HD 1.75" round weld-on's with powder coating.

Question for you guys. I've got a lincoln 125 MIG 115V + gas that I have in my garage...oor access to a miller 220V + gas about two hours away in San Diego.

Convenience says to just use the 125 and take my time, what say you? I haven't had experience with the 220, but am pretty familiar with the 115.

dustboy

01-27-2010, 04:34 AM

Hmm, things are always easier in the comfort of my own garage, and working in such a difficult position as sliders require, a familiar machine would probably work best. Do you think the 125 is powerful enough to get proper penetration?

The real question might be, is there a lift in SD?

sasaholic

01-27-2010, 05:27 AM

if you are comportable welding with ur machine id just use it. make 1 pass with the heat up and get it to penetrate good and if after the first pass ur not satisfied lay down another weld. these frames are only 1/8 inch so it not like its think. ive welded with plenty of 110 machines that im comfident in the work that u can make them do. i always remember the key to a good weld is good prep so make sure u take a sanding disk and get every bit of that old paint off.

CYi5

01-27-2010, 07:57 AM

Dustboy: Nope, no lift. I'll be lying on my back no matter what :(.

sasaholic: That's good advice, I was thinking along the same lines. Red87 and I just finished his bumper (3/16" mostly) and the welds turned out well with adequate penetration.

CYi5

01-28-2010, 01:56 AM

Demello sliders and limited flares don't mix, fyi. A good amount of the inner plastic molding had to be shaved down, leaving a cavity which would fill with water/dirt. I filled these guys with silicone sealant. The plastic is also white underneath the paint, I was expecting it to be black. I also like to weigh things before they go on my truck...34 lbs. each side.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S2D8Oboh8NI/AAAAAAAAG7E/XufcIe84atA/s800/Picture%20002.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S2D8Q1HlcoI/AAAAAAAAG7U/CTNKkxkKHRQ/s800/Picture%20006.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S2D8R9l_ZPI/AAAAAAAAG7Y/O1BKBM1xp4U/s800/Picture%20008.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S2D8Slc6ddI/AAAAAAAAG7g/JgG3X0un5ZA/s800/Picture%20010.jpg

sasaholic

01-28-2010, 02:00 AM

looks good did u use ur welder? also im surprised they dont look like they stick out far enought to get a highlift on there without smacking the doors. how far from the frame do they stick out

red87

01-28-2010, 02:04 AM

looking good man

dustboy

01-28-2010, 03:09 AM

It's good to have sliders that stick out a little further, I just kissed this rock with my side panels:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PrLGB0JUQEk/SnY8zURrttI/AAAAAAAABz8/sGEwqfWVcB4/s800/IMG_2747.JPG

Someday I'll add another bar to make them a couple inches wider.

CYi5

01-28-2010, 03:26 AM

yea, I used the 115v, worked terribly on about 6/8 legs. Probably just my lack of skill, I couldn't seem to dial it in for some reason.

I don't do many rocky trails these days and didn't want to rub my leg on them every time I enter the vehicle. The tucked up fitment is part of the reason I went with DO's this time. I haven't put the hi-lift up to it yet; I assumed the silver armor cladding was put there for hi-lift protection anyway ;).

CYi5

01-28-2010, 03:41 AM

Curiosity got the better of me now that you mentioned it. There's about a fist width between the hi-lift body and the silver cladding and a smidge more to the door skin.

red87

01-28-2010, 03:43 AM

Don't do what I did when I first used my hi-lift on my sliders, your paint is much nicer than mine :D

Photog

01-28-2010, 10:40 PM

xcmountain80

01-28-2010, 11:00 PM

red87

01-29-2010, 12:33 AM

CYi5

01-29-2010, 01:14 AM

I have seen folks open the door, before placing the Hi-Lift under the slider.

Oh man, someone think of the leather!:yikes:;)

4x4mike

01-29-2010, 02:50 PM

I have seen folks open the door, before placing the Hi-Lift under the slider. This provides plenty of room for the Hi-Lift. Even better, when the rig is leaning down on the side you want to lift (flat tire, tire in a hole, etc.) The rig is not likely to be level, when you need to lift it. :ylsmoke:

Hi-Lift work is always shakey. There will be issues to watch out for, no matter how you do it.

Good tip. My old truck had a vertical "dent" on each side from the hi lift. The damage wasn't on the doors but I'm sure I could have moved the lift to the door area and still been able to lift the truck as much as I needed it. I would have been able to do what I was doing without damaging the sheet metal.

CYi5

02-08-2010, 05:39 PM

I was out at Calico this past weekend cruising around and realized a problem with my Hi-lift mount. I currently have it bolted to my yakima crossbars and stays up there perfectly well. However, It's nonstop rattling from the jack! I took the base plate off and that cut the rattling down slightly, but the mechanism itself bounces like crazy. Being solidly mounted, the clanking goes straight though my roof into the cab...I miss my tacoma with the separated cargo area :(.

I can put rubber isolators in the mount but I doubt that would help much. Anyone have any other ideas on how to keep the mechanism from bouncing around on the jack?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/4runner/DSC_0125.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/thatsnowinnebago/Calico%202-6-10/DSCF0753.jpg

xcmountain80

02-08-2010, 06:27 PM

Either a small ratcheting strap, or a HD rubber bungee cord anchored from tip of somewhere in the HL to the nose of the mechanism so that it take the slack out. I have mine mounted in the truck and it doesn't rattle much at all.

A

red87

02-08-2010, 07:05 PM

You could always just take the mechanism off the beam and store that in your fancy drawer system. It'll take you longer to set the jack up but it would probably cut down on the noise.

java

02-08-2010, 07:13 PM

ive neoprene covers, they keep the dirt out and probably would cut down on the rattles too

SilverBullet

02-08-2010, 07:38 PM

I used shock bushings on my bolts inside. It helps a lot.

CYi5

02-12-2010, 08:48 PM

Thanks for the ideas, i'll give some of them a shot. Another idea kicking around in the back of my head, a bolt on swing out. Granted this would be to retain the stock bumper for those to don't want to invest in a fabricated replacement.

I'm tempted to just invest in a new replacement for better departure angle (low tow hitch) and my stocker seems to be getting banged up more these days...But I also don't feel like dropping $750+ at the moment either.

The main reason for the swing out is to carry fuel; the spare tire has never been an issue where it is. Bolt on also allows me to take it off when not on trips if I really wanted to.

Please tell me what you think of this idea. I realize the main cross member may have to extend past the supports in order for the swing out to get out of the way of the hatch coming up, so that would be a little different design. The uprights would be 3/8" plate, the same thickness as the stock drop-downs for the hitch. The main crossmembers would be 2x2 .120 or 2x3 .120 for the swing arm.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/Picture001.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/side.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/Picture003.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/CYi5/back1.jpg

I was leaning towards the iron pig spindle, but I may incorporate a double shear design, unsure at the moment.

red87

02-12-2010, 09:43 PM

Be careful if you block your plate, cops don't so much like that. Also, you could maybe move the hi-lift back there too.

rdgt4r

02-12-2010, 11:05 PM

Kevin...................................what is that sticker on your rear bumper for?

CYi5

02-13-2010, 03:02 PM

Be careful if you block your plate, cops don't so much like that. Also, you could maybe move the hi-lift back there too.

Yea I would relocate it.

The sticker is covering a bit of paint that is beginning to chip away...

valkyrie

02-13-2010, 03:29 PM

Applejack

02-14-2010, 01:11 AM

Looks like a pretty sweet idea to me!:smiley_drive:

CYi5

02-14-2010, 06:53 PM

That's actually pretty slick.

You may have to offset the can carrier portion a bit off center to the driver's side . With such a short swing arm, the tailgate may not clear it. Otherwise, all you cold do is set the whole thing back which is undesirable IMO.

You could mount the highlift a low across the bottom of the can carrier and you relocate your license plate to the carrier as well. And, if you're wiring for the plate lights anyway, maybe you could add a work/backup light?

Interesting possibilities, and it's certainly something I think could be adapted to a fabricated bumper down the road if you ever do that.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Yea, I think I may have to extend the main crossmember to the sides for a longer swing arm and to keep things symmetrical. Shouldn't be too much of a problem, i'll just have to alter the way it sits on the side supports slightly.

I was also throwing the idea around of the hi-lift bolted down low. Lower CG as well as less noise through my rack as I mentioned just prior. I may have to get a little more creative with the mounts than just welding bolts through, it seems like the tolerances will be somewhat tight with the swing arm. I haven't held it up yet, however.

Good ideas for the backup lights, that one hadn't crossed my mind yet.

The project would go rather quickly if I had access to my plasma cutter. Straight cuts, a grinder, and a sawzall will have to do..oof! :)

CYi5

02-14-2010, 10:30 PM

Those plans may be put on hold for a bit, just found these issues under the hood :(.

Engine has 150,000 miles. Mobil 1 since 125,000 when I acquired it. Any ideas? Valve cover gasket on top? Oil pan gasket on bottom? Rear main seal X-( ? Please help me diagnose! I've done the oil pan gasket and valve cover gasket on a samurai, is this a shade tree job as well? The oil spots look similar to that situation which has me guessing those options.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEHLYV9HI/AAAAAAAAHFE/ha9lV57D9x8/s800/Picture%20019.jpg
Oil around cap.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEH23U1PI/AAAAAAAAHFI/vWtojJMyHdg/s800/Picture%20017.jpg
On top around PCV valve.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEIVlyz7I/AAAAAAAAHFM/UeNyeXXx628/s800/Picture%20016.jpg
Rear passenger from top.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEN1-Ge5I/AAAAAAAAHFw/lqV7uLxRSoE/s800/Picture%20001.jpg
Dripping down on steering rack.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iENFAU4sI/AAAAAAAAHFs/v5fWoPVoax8/s800/Picture%20003.jpg
Bottom of Bellhousing.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEMMbBj_I/AAAAAAAAHFk/8_DM_Qu_0FA/s800/Picture%20005.jpg
Above bellhousing driver's side.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEMiEttfI/AAAAAAAAHFo/FN2gi6yiyos/s800/Picture%20004.jpg
Closer view of above bellhousing drivers side.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEKs04bXI/AAAAAAAAHFc/RLTK4qJBiI0/s800/Picture%20007.jpg
Passenger side rear oil pan.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEJgUA5uI/AAAAAAAAHFY/Gjq85NtVRuQ/s800/Picture%20012.jpg
Close up rear oil pan.

CYi5

02-14-2010, 10:31 PM

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3iEIqJPwSI/AAAAAAAAHFQ/7lbuY4wKW7Y/s800/Picture%20015.jpg
Passenger side looking towards rear of oil pan and faceplate of bellhousing.

rdgt4r

02-15-2010, 12:47 AM

Hey I thought it was the Oil Pump but according to the manual that is up front.
The oil cooler line runs on the D/side of the block check all of that.
A valve cover gasket failure wont cause this much of a mess.

http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1996/SIL/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/em5vzfe/cylblo/comp.pdf
http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1996/SIL/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/lu5vzfe/oilpum/comp.pdf
http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1996/SIL/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/lu5vzfe/oilcoo/comp.pdf

Try these locations out.

AlexJet

02-15-2010, 11:30 AM

I like your build. Very nice and clean.

CYi5

02-16-2010, 02:42 AM

Thanks Alex, I try to keep it somewhat presentable. It is mall rated afterall.

I snugged up the oil pan bolts and bought the parts for the valve cover gasket job (gaskets, spark plug tube seals, and pcv plug) tonight. Tomorrow i'll tackle tearing it down following these writeups: My situation (http://www.yotatech.com/f2/3-4l-oil-leaks-150k-204400/), another (http://www.yotatech.com/f2/replacing-valve-cover-gasket-196737/index2.html).

xcmountain80

02-16-2010, 02:53 AM

The valve cover portion will not take long, just stick you upper manifold hardware in one ziplock and lower manifold in another. Tape off the intake plenum before you start moving the wires around (the plastic wire housings are brittle and will crack and fall into the intake, but it isn't the end of the world if you do). Pay careful attention to the round areas under the valve cover and sand them scrape them with a razor to make certain you remove the old gasket, use brake cleaner to clean the area and let it dry prior to new gasket and liquid gasket. As for the oil pan that one is way easy! If you have any questions I did mine about 10k ago and the images are fresh in my mind. Ohhh you will likely need new intake gaskets (2) @ $17 @ Toyota they are not reusable per say and for the money you mine as well not chance and air leak later.

Aaron

Applejack

02-16-2010, 10:43 AM

I dunno...........those markings look eerily familiar, and I'm thinking it may be the main seal. But I hope not.

CYi5

02-16-2010, 10:26 PM

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3slmlSTVZI/AAAAAAAAHIM/FhC20EtEg9c/s800/Picture%20024.jpg
Valve cover removed, condition after 150,000 miles. The old valve cover gasket is still in place and later came off easily.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3slm3bu4_I/AAAAAAAAHIQ/krAJ_ecjyzE/s800/Picture%20027.jpg
Removed and applied new gasket material to semi-circle plugs.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3slnsTcqNI/AAAAAAAAHIU/k_dDU1zi4QI/s800/Picture%20028.jpg
Applied new gasket to the corners where they are known to leak after removing old glob in corner.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3sloFrF2zI/AAAAAAAAHIY/b_LdqKB7-Kc/s800/Picture%20030.jpg
New spark plug tube seals hammered in. Remove the old ones by using a flat head screwdriver to pound the metal ring inwards, then punch out from the outside.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3sloTs_zVI/AAAAAAAAHIc/HYX0MHy0juU/s800/Picture%20031.jpg
New gasket in place. The felpro brand fit very snugly, I had no issues with it falling out.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/S3slo8UrxAI/AAAAAAAAHIg/jCzZX_FRedA/s800/Picture%20032.jpg
Put in a new PCV grommet as well while I had the cover off. PCV valve was still operating correctly.

Worth noting is that a major leaking spot on the 3.4's is the housing plug to the rear of the camshaft. It is covered by the rear plate. To access this you must unbolt (2) the rear plate from the back of the engine as well as unbolt the last bracket holding the plate in. From there, just grab the plate and wiggle it out. I put gasket material all around this and then bolted it down tightly. Big thanks to YellowTT (yotatech) for bringing this to light, it will definitely need to be done on the opposite side when my intake plenum gaskets arrive. (Will update with pics of those components at that time.)

http://www.yotatech.com/attachments/f2/79413d1266285356-3-4l-oil-leaks-150k-3.4l-2-.jpg

red87

02-17-2010, 09:44 PM

You're wasting no time fixing that leak

xcmountain80

02-17-2010, 11:01 PM

Naw just look at it like preventative maint. Eventually you will leak there. If all elses fails and my new personal fav. way to source a leak use the prof version of leak detection. kit. This sourced my ever annoying t-case leak in 1 day. I had been searching for it for 2 years. Ended up being a shift seat (sourced from MarlinCrawler "Blue seat") and two razor washers that were replaced with RTV.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/4Runner/Carnage/PA230022.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/4Runner/Carnage/img192.jpg
Aaron

97kurt

02-18-2010, 12:32 AM

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/4Runner/Carnage/PA230022.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/4Runner/Carnage/img192.jpg
Aaron

I just bought a similar kit yesterday. Trying to track down a small leak on mine thats been bugging me for 2 years.

CYi5

02-18-2010, 01:41 AM

You're wasting no time fixing that leak

The valve cover gaskets aren't even the fast leak..That one is underneath somewhere...I'm hoping it's the rear of the oil pan gasket..Otherwise i'm tempted to throw a 5 speed behind my 3.4 if I have to change the rear main seal...

red87

02-18-2010, 06:14 AM

The valve cover gaskets aren't even the fast leak..That one is underneath somewhere...I'm hoping it's the rear of the oil pan gasket..Otherwise i'm tempted to throw a 5 speed behind my 3.4 if I have to change the rear main seal...

But your fancy AWD...

xcmountain80

02-18-2010, 01:09 PM

But your fancy AWD...

Theres no AWD in these things. Thats a early FFZJ80.

red87

02-18-2010, 02:18 PM

Theres no AWD in these things. Thats a early FFZJ80.

The Limited 4Runners of the same era as CYi5's do have a center diff. They are the only ones that do.

rdgt4r

02-18-2010, 04:37 PM

99-2002 3rd gen 4runners all had the Multi-Mode 4wd system.

valkyrie

02-18-2010, 06:25 PM

Theres no AWD in these things. Thats a early FFZJ80.

99-2002 3rd gen 4runners all had the Multi-Mode 4wd system.

Correct, and as far as the 80 Series, both FJ & FZJ models were AWD. ;)

xcmountain80

02-18-2010, 06:26 PM

The Limited 4Runners of the same era as CYi5's do have a center diff. They are the only ones that do.

Hmmm that center diff looks allot like a Aisin Transfer case to me! Oh wait a second thats because it is a transfer case. The 4Runner (3rd Gen) are equipped with a center diff lock, why the heck they though it was a good idea to call it that is beyond me. It is not a differential as the name implies it is in fact a transfer case with a selection that enables a 50/50 split to front and rear wheels. To state AWD is to say that all four wheels are engaged in a system that will not allow them to be under the power of two wheels only. The V8 4th Gen 4Runners and GX 470 are in fact AWD or fulltime 4wd if you will. The 3rd gen NONE OF THEM are fulltime 4wd or AWD for that matter. The names used over the years confuse people. Subaru makes AWD vehicles.

Aaron

rdgt4r

02-18-2010, 06:46 PM

Hmmm that center diff looks allot like a Aisin Transfer case to me! Oh wait a second thats because it is a transfer case. The 4Runner (3rd Gen) are equipped with a center diff lock, why the heck they though it was a good idea to call it that is beyond me. It is not a differential as the name implies it is in fact a transfer case with a selection that enables a 50/50 split to front and rear wheels. To state AWD is to say that all four wheels are engaged in a system that will not allow them to be under the power of two wheels only. The V8 4th Gen 4Runners and GX 470 are in fact AWD or fulltime 4wd if you will. The 3rd gen NONE OF THEM are fulltime 4wd or AWD for that matter. The names used over the years confuse people. Subaru makes AWD vehicles.

Aaron

Mhmm great info, i'd like to know more if possible. I've read online but where I read they refer it to AWD/4WD system which can be misleading. Thanks for posting up what you know.

Curtis

evanthebruin

02-18-2010, 06:52 PM

Was unsure if I should tackle this one being a new guy around here but these( and my) 4runners do have AWD capability. I suppose we're arguing potatoe potato here but there is definitely a torsen differential in there that allows for torque imbalance between the front and rear wheels when the button is pushed just like a Suby. That said, the diff is NOT open. I like to think of it as a limited slip. I also think that should be callled AWD and not full time 4wd by the way, full time 4wd is kind of confusing. Sorry to continue the hijack, I vote for keeping AWD and the auto:sombrero:

Co-opski

02-18-2010, 06:58 PM

Some subarus have single and dual range transfer cases.

:smiley_drive:

xcmountain80

02-18-2010, 07:22 PM

Just show me where the 4runner says AWD.

evanthebruin

02-18-2010, 07:49 PM

It doesn't say AWD. I was referring to the mode of vehicle operation as opposed to the signs or badges attached to the vehicle. The t-case lever doesn't say Engage Automatic Differential Disconnect, it just says H2-H4. The post above was about losing AWD capability which the VF3AM case and its internal T-3 Torsen (http://www.torsen.com/products/T-3.htm) differential provide. I don't want to lose that either, it's great in snow and icy conditions. Long Beach is pretty close to the San Bernadino mountains and I've used my AWD capability on icy roads there a few times.

xcmountain80

02-18-2010, 08:22 PM

CYi5

03-11-2010, 01:37 AM

Took care of the rear main seal swap this past Saturday. I've never been so afraid of something falling on me as when pulled that auto. Big differences when removing an auto instead of a manual: Many more plugs to detach and much heavier! All said and done it was a twelve hour job. Big thanks to the guy who helped tackle the project in his garage. The use of a 36" extension was used quite frequently, keep that in mind if you are thinking about doing this.

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Tranny on the floor...We removed the cooler lines to get things out of the way when lowering it down. Therefore, the only tranny fluid that we lost came out of the lines, leaving the transmission quite hefty.

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Old rear main seal. Note much more oily around the bottom of the seal than the top; surrounding areas and below coated. Past rear housing plug leaks also visible in top of picture.

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Remove the aluminum backing plate and the seal will come out with it. Don't forget there are eight bolts total, six on the front, and two on the bottom that go through the oil pan. We then twisted the old seal out with a pair of vice grips and tapped the new one in evenly with the edge of a large socket.

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Rear of the housing plug leak. Cleaned that up with some brake cleaner as I had resealed all of that stuff the week prior.

Five days later and no leaks yet. The only minor hiccup involved the rear main seal that I ordered online. It came in an old toyota package with a reprinted label. The seal was dinged as if someone had test fitted it then tried to carefully pry it back out without damaging it. Well they weren't successful and the inner lip was compromised. Fortunately a local dealership had two in stock on a Saturday. Got raped on the price, but what are you gonna do, just one of those things...

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valkyrie

03-11-2010, 01:44 PM

CYi5

03-11-2010, 02:39 PM

Dang it Kevin, I'm so sorry. I know how frustrating it is to be that deep in a project and find out there's a problem with the parts you were counting on. :mad:

Refund issued, please accept my sincerest apology.

No sweat these things happen. I just need to be a little less excited when receiving a package and take the thirty seconds needed to inspect the part...before i'm about to lower down the transmission. Doh! Lessons learned, thanks for being a great and reliable vendor, you have my continued business.

red87

03-11-2010, 04:19 PM

36" extension? Impressive, I didn't know that came that big.

shawkins

03-11-2010, 09:10 PM

36" extension? Impressive, I didn't know that came that big.
Three 12" extensions. :D

I usually throw a swivel on the end. Those bell housing bolts are a PITA!

CYi5

03-11-2010, 11:44 PM

36" extension? Impressive, I didn't know that came that big.

They do when you have $90 in exchange.

rambrush

03-12-2010, 12:02 AM

I have a 36" extension it has 3/8" male with 1/2" female impact rated. That sucker sure saved my tail on more than one occasion.
3 12's will work but it gets pretty wobbly. Glad you have things under control.

shawkins

03-12-2010, 01:43 AM

Snap-On Extension (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=72285&group_ID=18170&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog)

red87

03-16-2010, 05:20 AM

They do when you have $90 in exchange.

Fair enough.

CYi5

03-16-2010, 05:31 PM

After many hours in the garage and the use of primitive power tools, I've completed the proposed swing out. It took an upcoming Death Valley trip to light the fire under me, but I now have an extra 10 gallons of fuel at my disposal.

I was initially going to run the standard red toggle clamps you see everywhere, but then ran across Wilman's updated latch design. Instead of using a clamp to hold the up down/side to side movements, he isolated them via a pull pin and a lock tab. I don't have to worry about the clamp coming undone, the arm swinging open, or the arm lifting off of the spindle. I also saved about $30 going with the two spring pins versus one clamp and one spring pin to hold the gate open on an incline. Spring pins were acquired from McMaster Carr.

The spindle is an Iron Pig Offroad (IPOR) creation consisting of 1.5" cold rolled rod surrounded by oilite bushings and wrapped in a piece of 2" DOM sleeve.

The side supports are bolted through the factory receiver hitch making it a snap to remove if necessary, as well as sell in the future if desired.

The jerry can holder clamps over the rear of the cans, but I'm still debating if I like it or not. I'd rather shed some weight and go with a locking strap design but I haven't quite figured out a system for that yet. It is also locking which I desire.

Total funds spent came to around $150 including parts, metal, and shipping. Total time i'd estimate around 25 hours. I just acquired a plasma cutter so that will cut the time down significantly!

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java

03-16-2010, 08:16 PM

looks great!! im planning something similar for a spare for mine.

CYi5

03-16-2010, 09:46 PM

looks great!! im planning something similar for a spare for mine.

Sweet, looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

red87

03-16-2010, 10:50 PM

Not too shabby buddy. Now you can carry my fuel can and I won't have to worry about gas fumes in my shell. :D

beast1210

03-17-2010, 07:18 AM

looks great, I had a buddy get stopped in CA cause his blitz can was painted. I guess they have to be red for gas in california. Maybe a tire cover would conceal them. just my .02.

CYi5

03-17-2010, 12:47 PM

looks great, I had a buddy get stopped in CA cause his blitz can was painted. I guess they have to be red for gas in california. Maybe a tire cover would conceal them. just my .02.

Damn, looks like you're right. It's always something in California isn't it? Red = gasoline container per DOT regulations. Guess it can be flat red :).

CYi5

03-19-2010, 06:17 PM

$6.98 from Lowes. Fabricated a little bracket that slides over the backside of the license plate bolts. Tapped into the parking light wire of the passenger side tail light. Do I expect it to illuminate the plate well? Not really, but it's legal :).

Also painted the cans, thanks beast1210.

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CYi5

04-15-2010, 04:24 AM

B&M tranny cooler installed to avoid the "strawberry milkshake" scenario many 4runner owners are now facing. I bypassed the stock cooler in the radiator and this guy is taking over fulltime. The 70264 model is a perfect fit. It is 1.5" thick compared to several other 3/4" thick models people are running.

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MillerPKA

04-15-2010, 11:19 AM

I see the ballasts mounted but what for? Seems like heads are still halogen unless you used them for hid driving lights??

CYi5

04-15-2010, 04:24 PM

I see the ballasts mounted but what for? Seems like heads are still halogen unless you used them for hid driving lights??

They power my Hella 4000's that I converted to HID. I'm tempted to run the G1s in the headlights but all the reports of shaking on dirt roads have turned me off for the time being.

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CYi5

04-23-2010, 12:18 AM

Latest shots from Death Valley:

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CYi5

05-29-2010, 06:54 PM

No real updates, just a few pics from Big Bear, CA last week.

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It was interesting to compare wheeling this on John Bull versus my old '01 extended cab tacoma. I figured this would do better with the shorter wheelbase, but I actually got stuck more frequently. The two biggest drawbacks of the 4Runner: The super low gas tank, and the factory trailer hitch. I even got a boulder stuck between my spare tire and receiver hitch...that required a tow strap to get off of :( Humiliating...

CYi5

07-19-2010, 12:19 AM

Just picked up an Edgestar 43 qt. fridge this week and am in the process of getting it mounted. The drawer system I have setup in back makes the quarters too close for keeping the lid open, so the next best thing is replacing a seat. I normally drop this seat anyway to hold a cooler so no big loss to me, and good luck holding camping gear for four people in the 4runner.

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So far i've been impressed with the quality of the unit. It cools down very quickly and doesn't feel as cheap as the amount I paid for it :). From what i've read on expo this fridge is a great value, time will tell! Right now i'm still on a single battery system...so may do some stress testing on leaving it plugged in overnight before i'm in the middle of nowhere. To be on the safe side the fridge will most likely just be unplugged at night, i'm sure the temps won't rise considerably. I can't wait to use it, but also feel like I should be delivering blood part-time...

ttora4runner

07-19-2010, 01:23 AM

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The two biggest drawbacks of the 4Runner: The super low gas tank, and the factory trailer hitch. I even got a boulder stuck between my spare tire and receiver hitch...that required a tow strap to get off of :( Humiliating...

Here's a something to help protect the gas tank:

http://lilskipsoffroad.wordpress.com/

That's the first I've heard of getting stuck between the spare and the hitch.

CYi5

07-30-2010, 10:12 PM

Made a few changes to the swing out. The blitz cans I was using were all rusted inside, breaking particles loose and one even developed a pin hole spraying gas out the back of the truck. To replace those, I picked up a nice pair of jerry cans from an expo member..a substantial improvement in every way :victory:!

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The original design let the cans rattle around, so I went with the strap method. I'm very happy with how they turned out and it seems they will hold much better. The tab at the top still allows me to mount a lock and run a security cable through the can handles. I also added some carpet padding underneath the cans to absorb some shock, as well as create a nice little nest for when the cans are filled up.

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I also added a hi-lift mount to get it off of the roof, but am still up in the air about it. The base is very secure, with bolts going through the foot. The top is a little sketch, but doesn't seem like it's going to snap off.

I'm just wondering if all that vertical weight will cause something to fail in the swing out? There is a little play in the arm itself already, but there are three devices holding it closed (main pin, swing out pin, and lock)...What do you guys think? Yay or nay? Thanks for your input!

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Arvin G

07-31-2010, 12:25 AM

Looking good man. I found a white 99 runner I'm looking at tomorrow. I swear I'm not copying!

CYi5

07-31-2010, 12:41 AM

Looking good man. I found a white 99 runner I'm looking at tomorrow. I swear I'm not copying!

Sweet man, looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Also wishing you didn't need another fender as part of a deal to buy that snorkel of yours :P.

Arvin G

07-31-2010, 12:49 AM

Same here but I just dont wanna give my brother the tacoma with a big hole in the side.

Hows the fridge working out behind the driver seat?

CYi5

07-31-2010, 12:55 AM

Great! I had to do a couple little tricks to get the height correct, but I can now open the lid with the door closed just by dropping the window :). It's a pretty trick setup...just need to do the full-time power outlet mod.

The platform is also bedlined and straps hold the fridge down over the bumps.

The swing out questions may be trivial, as I just started cutting the metal for my rear bumper :).

SilverBullet

07-31-2010, 04:48 PM

That bumper set up looks great. Not sure if you had one, I can't tell from the picture, but for a bushing to reduce metal/metal with the high-lift, I use an old shock bushing on the bolt through the upper mount. Just an idea.

taco chaser

07-31-2010, 09:37 PM

Did you pick up a new rig ?? Cause that's a clean 4runner. Better protect those nice corners and rockers. :elkgrin:

CYi5

08-01-2010, 05:26 AM

Did you pick up a new rig ?? Cause that's a clean 4runner. Better protect those nice corners and rockers. :elkgrin:

Yea the taco got totaled :(. I wanted to bring it to you for SASing too! And yep, rear bumper build will continue in a week when i return from Oregon :campfire:.

taco chaser

08-01-2010, 04:22 PM

Yea the taco got totaled :(. I wanted to bring it to you for SASing too! And yep, rear bumper build will continue in a week when i return from Oregon :campfire:.

OOH NOO ! Bummer on the Tacoma... Hope nobody got hurt in that process and it was a rust issue or something else. Your new rig is looking good though. I like what your running off the rear bumper now for a swing out, is that being changed or is part of the new bumper?

CYi5

08-01-2010, 09:00 PM

Na, my buddy rolled it on the way to the grand canyon :(...only minor injuries though thankfully. Thanks for the compliments, I always enjoy the changes your rig goes through as well!

I'm undecided on that part. I may sell it all outright to another 3rd gen owner, since there aren't many swing outs available to them. Otherwise, I will mount it in a double-shear configuration using a giant bolt to one of the corners of the bumper...Just have to see how I feel when the bumper is closer to completion.

red87

08-01-2010, 09:57 PM

Looking good man. Did you use scraps from my bumper for the hi-lift mount?

CYi5

08-01-2010, 11:34 PM

Looking good man. Did you use scraps from my bumper for the hi-lift mount?

I had some left overs from other projects. I'm not going to run the hi-lift I decided. Even on the streets it vibrates a lot just hitting expansion joints and cracks. Not sure why I lug that thing around anyway..

red87

08-01-2010, 11:55 PM

Cause I don't have a place to put mine at the moment.

CYi5

08-17-2010, 06:41 AM

Today is a good day in the world of 3rd Gen rear suspension. I installed Icon's newly released rear piggy back reservoir shocks on the 4Runner this evening. Initial impressions are very strong:victory:. The quality looks right up there with their coilovers and these things are stout!

With the same shock body diameter as my front DR's, they are a perfect match for the rear. The little street driving i've done this evening shows vast improvements when going through dips. Before, I'd feel the rear compress easily for that spine shattering jolt; now it's much more controlled and dampens just as it's intended.

The install was a little trickier than I had anticipated. The rebound is so strong I couldn't compress them by hand and had to use a hi-lift to lift the truck from the rear bumper to gain clearance, as well as use a floor jack to compress the shock. A C-clamp is then used to bring the bottom of the shock over the lower shock mount. 4 spacers are also included in the box, they are installed on either side of the shock bottom.

On a side note, I actually gained lift after installing these. Not sure if it will settle after they have broken in, but the rear is noticeably higher than before.

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New dampeners are slightly longer than the OME N86C shocks for a little more travel.

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red87

08-17-2010, 10:08 AM

Dang, those are legit; they dwarf the OMEs. When're we taking them out for a test?

xcmountain80

08-17-2010, 05:35 PM

What did those nasty shocks set you back? You can PM me if it's to absurd!

A

SOAZ

08-17-2010, 11:00 PM

Very nice!! Looking good!
I can't wait to install mine! :smiley_drive:

CYi5

08-24-2010, 04:48 AM

Those shocks look nice, what rear springs are you using with them? How is the street ride?

Thanks

OME 890's for now. I was concerned that with the extra weight of my new rear bumper that it would sag, but the rear end is pretty sky jacked without a bumper added.

Street ride is awesome, much better than the OME N86 comfort imo.

corax

08-24-2010, 11:56 AM

On a side note, I actually gained lift after installing these. Not sure if it will settle after they have broken in, but the rear is noticeably higher than before.

As you've probably figured out, the bit of lift you got is from the pressure inside the shock pushing the shock rod out (same effect as an air shock) - this force on the shock rod is helping support just a little of the rear weight. If the rear does settle a bit it'll be either the rear springs settling or slight loss of shock pressure.

Those are pretty pimp looking shocks. Do you have any noticable increase in bump/road noise being transfered from the heims on the axle end of the shock?

CYi5

08-24-2010, 02:51 PM

I emailed Icon to see what spring they recommended and didn't get a response..yet. The 890's do sag when loaded up with gear you're right. As a band-aid, I usually inflate my airbags at the beginning of a trip, but that's not always so useful when you finally get in the dirt. I would be interested to find a custom spring that works well, I don't know if LC springs would fit the bill as a good match.

The ride in the rear is sort of comparable to when you switched out your front suspension to coilovers. Stiffer but more controlled. I really can't push down the rear of the runner all that well, which would indicate the shock pressure like corax mentioned.

I've noticed no noise in the rear, but then again they are brand new. If that does start, i'm sure their ability to be rebuilt will make those heims replaceable in the future.

I'm hoping to get out to Johnson Valley maybe next week and play around with them in the dirt.

SOAZ

08-25-2010, 05:37 AM

Willman

08-26-2010, 01:58 PM

Love the new shocks! Makes a guy want to trade up to match the front!

:drool:

RSB

08-30-2010, 02:39 AM

I really, really like these. Absolutely gorgeous! :drool:

Today is a good day in the world of 3rd Gen rear suspension. I installed Icon's newly released rear piggy back reservoir shocks on the 4Runner this evening. Initial impressions are very strong:victory:. The quality looks right up there with their coilovers and these things are stout!

With the same shock body diameter as my front DR's, they are a perfect match for the rear. The little street driving i've done this evening shows vast improvements when going through dips. Before, I'd feel the rear compress easily for that spine shattering jolt; now it's much more controlled and dampens just as it's intended.

The install was a little trickier than I had anticipated. The rebound is so strong I couldn't compress them by hand and had to use a hi-lift to lift the truck from the rear bumper to gain clearance, as well as use a floor jack to compress the shock. A C-clamp is then used to bring the bottom of the shock over the lower shock mount. 4 spacers are also included in the box, they are installed on either side of the shock bottom.

On a side note, I actually gained lift after installing these. Not sure if it will settle after they have broken in, but the rear is noticeably higher than before.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TGorrfyWZpI/AAAAAAAAJW8/BRdNEEctWZ4/s800/IMG_1682.JPG

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New dampeners are slightly longer than the OME N86C shocks for a little more travel.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TGort3gS0BI/AAAAAAAAJXM/tLBuqXFyQPQ/s800/IMG_1685.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TGorvr2M_dI/AAAAAAAAJXU/yfvVugDQQRQ/s800/IMG_1689.JPG

mires

08-30-2010, 04:21 AM

Great looking truck. I love the simplistic look you've got going. Nice and functional!

CYi5

09-03-2010, 07:14 AM

Nearing the end of my rear bumper build, just thought i'd throw up a few pics before powder coating tomorrow. It's a BruceTS styled bumper with a few tweaks of my own. The main differences being weld-through clevis mounts and an alternative to reusing the stock faded plastic bumper top.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TICfIkFRv-I/AAAAAAAAJYE/pZPGfWC_ixQ/s800/IMG_1691.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TICfJXy7pkI/AAAAAAAAJYM/FTILAPSCevY/s800/IMG_1693.JPG

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OldSven

09-03-2010, 12:17 PM

That's a very clean bumper build, I'm a little jealous of your rear shock choice too:elkgrin:

Mamontof

09-03-2010, 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=CYi5;701318]Nearing the end of my rear bumper build, just thought i'd throw up a few pics before powder coating tomorrow. It's a BruceTS styled bumper with a few tweaks of my own. The main differences being weld-through clevis mounts and an alternative to reusing the stock faded plastic bumper top.

Hay Heavy is that ?
Great work , solid steel , can handle all most anything
Hay you attach to the frame , weld or flex ?

I love that bumper style !:victory:

CYi5

09-03-2010, 03:43 PM

The bumper is bolted on in the stock tow hitch locations as well as over the frame. I'll get the weight before I put it on for the final time, it takes two people to put on though.

12husky

09-03-2010, 03:46 PM

CYi5

09-03-2010, 04:23 PM

Air bags work great for going on a road trip or towing, but they interfere with the spring rate when you get in the dirt and don't allow the spring to absorb like it's supposed to. They certainly have their place, but for those who want all of their spring, seems like stepping up to a higher payload would be a better option.

That said, I recently found one of my bags deflated, so i'll be troubleshooting the leak soon as I want to keep the option of inflating them for heavy loads. I'm just hoping the bag itself didn't split from the last 4wheeling trip out.

AlexJet

09-03-2010, 08:27 PM

Nice looking piece of work.

Me like it.....:wings:

xcmountain80

09-04-2010, 05:13 PM

CYi5

09-04-2010, 06:49 PM

My bags are currently flat, one leaks out slow and is useless for the most part. Wheeling with them is a no go unless your running limit straps (I'm looking into) the last time I was out I tire the nipple off one of the bags (pass side). I like the bags but they don't work well with wheeling.

A

I'm thinking that may have happened to mine as well....The tubing was pretty taught to begin with. We'll see when I get the bumper back from powdercoating on Tuesday.

Chadman

09-05-2010, 02:09 AM

I noticed in one of your pics you where running front mud flaps. Where these from a Tacoma?

CYi5

09-05-2010, 03:15 AM

yep, from an 04 Tacoma. The two outer holes match up, the inner indented tab needs a hole drilled with one of the factory plastic plugs inserted into it.

Chadman

09-05-2010, 05:38 PM

yep, from an 04 Tacoma. The two outer holes match up, the inner indented tab needs a hole drilled with one of the factory plastic plugs inserted into it.

Cool I was hoping those would work. wanna take my running boards off but need a little protection from the elements. I'll probably be asking you allot more questions when it comes time to really start outfitting my 2002 4runner.

Thanks!
Chad

CYi5

09-05-2010, 07:28 PM

Any questions will be welcomely answered. If you need pics of the mounted flaps let me know.

Gorge 4Runner

09-06-2010, 07:30 PM

Ahemm, I do believe you are missing one of these on either the front or rear bumper of that rig. ya?
:bike_rider:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/quik88/StarrXBlack.jpg

CYi5

09-06-2010, 07:56 PM

Not a bad idea ;)
http://www.cruisercrap.com/LC_script_ss_300.jpg

Gorge 4Runner

09-06-2010, 07:59 PM

haha, why yes of course! Although I would hate to clutter up that nice custom piece of rear amour.

CYi5

11-03-2010, 05:05 AM

Final pics of the rear powdercoated. I also finished welding up the bumper reinforcement plates today which will help with downward forces in the future (namely light weight dual sport on hitch carrier.)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TMYWgdmk3kI/AAAAAAAAJak/TX9xLCUXTaA/s800/IMG_1701.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TMYWg6juGTI/AAAAAAAAJas/E7HURX7C4I0/s800/IMG_1702.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TMYWhRRvStI/AAAAAAAAJa0/l9J5KfeLwWs/s800/IMG_1703.JPG

Next up is adding a detachable swing out to get those jerry cans back in the picture.

4307

11-03-2010, 08:02 AM

WOW! thats a beaut!
You know, I was debating painting my rear bumper a silver, or battleship gray.
I was searching for a while, for pics, failed so I painted it black. Now it shows up on your rig. :Wow1: Looks pretty slick. Good job man. :costumed-smiley-007, Now I want to paint mine gray... LOL Thanks... i think? :D

ttora4runner

11-03-2010, 11:38 AM

That rear bumper looks good.

Marc P

11-03-2010, 01:02 PM

Very nice...you want to build another bumper?

red87

11-03-2010, 04:34 PM

Still rockin the duct tape?

CYi5

11-03-2010, 10:15 PM

Very nice...you want to build another bumper?

lol, I dunno, this one took many hours in the driveway. Perkins Performance or CBI are your best bets for 3rd gen rears.

Still rockin the duct tape?

Of course...:)

Goin

11-03-2010, 11:41 PM

I would love to see more build pics of the bumper. Very nice. Did you do any frame strengthening?

juicebox

11-15-2010, 07:05 AM

:iagree:

CYi5

11-16-2010, 04:35 PM

As requested, pics of the upper frame reinforcement:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TOK5CFQQCWI/AAAAAAAAJfA/K6JG3OPhBNU/s800/IMG_1735.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TOK5BQJQ1LI/AAAAAAAAJe4/g6ZqCnBqIkg/s800/IMG_1734.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TOK45tmpJQI/AAAAAAAAJdw/stnCX0RdV4E/s800/IMG_1724.JPG
The metal strap running back can be made wider, I was just working with a piece of scrap that I had to divide to make both sides. It acts more as a spacer anyway.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TOK44xFpYxI/AAAAAAAAJdo/btd0K0XDdfs/s800/IMG_1721.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TOK46n2YjdI/AAAAAAAAJd4/5RT8m_19UDk/s800/IMG_1725.JPG

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Parallel black tube running across is the air line for the airbags.

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Cut out for 265/75/16 Spare, and (4) factory tow hitch bolt locations. Airbag fill nipple also pictured.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rlmfpXISVMM/TOK4_Gt1MFI/AAAAAAAAJeo/5pZlfH7-zas/s800/IMG_1732.JPG
Duct tape rash guard as noted by red87. Still holding well for the time being, and a surprising color match ;).