2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee [Archive]

haven

04-08-2009, 06:00 AM

Details of the Grand Cherokee for 2011 model year are set to be revealed at the NY Auto Show tomorrow. (That's assuming Chrysler still exists as a company in 2011.) Autoblog has lots of information and photos:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/08/new-york-2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-must-serve-two-masters/

Items that stand out to me include:
-- no more diesel engine in the Grand Cherokee for USA (no big surprise--you can't buy a diesel Jeep in 2009, either)
-- no two speed transfer case until optional Quadra-Trac II
-- skid plates optional
-- front and rear independent suspension
-- wheelbase longer by 4 inches
-- take off the 7 slot Jeep grill, and the Grand looks like it could just as easily have been styled by Kia (not much Jeep heritage left, in other words).

I'm guessing that a fully optioned 2011 Grand Cherokee will cost around $45,000 (not much of a reach, since the 2009 Grand can cost $44K). This puts it into the price range of sophisticated all wheel drive vehicles like the Audi Q7, BMW X5, Land Rover LR3, and Mercedes ML320. Jeep decided it had to accentuate the "grand" in Grand Cherokee to compete.

There is some good news. The most capable offroad setup will be the Quadra-Drive II with e-locker and Quadra-Lift, an airbag system that adds 4 inches of lift. The new chassis is reported to be 146% stiffer than the current Grand Cherokee, stiffer even than the current BMW X5.

Chip Haven

BKCowGod

04-08-2009, 06:17 AM

With the new JAGSUV (Just Another Generic Sport Utility Vehicle) concept, Jeep promises to lure in a previously untapped market - the blind and confused buyer who is drawn, raven-like, to the latest shiny object that is placed directly in front of them. Sales are predicted to be especially strong among those who steadfastly refuse to believe that we live in a global economy and therefore refuse to buy anything that is not purported to be American made, yet secretly want an Audi Q7.

Buy it now, before another once-proud name is completely destroyed. Oops... too late.

NOTE: Please don't take me too seriously.

modelbuilder

04-08-2009, 07:50 AM

The design is pretty ugly. Too bad it isn't more Jeep like. I was hoping for something similar to the Trail Hawk concept.

It's going to be expensive too. Only the well off will be able to enjoy the airbag suspension system and the selectable terrain control.

For everyone else they get a bigger SUV with a 6 cylinder engine.

It doesn't seem weight/power proportionate.

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Darton

04-08-2009, 01:32 PM

Hmmm... Same ol' same ol'. I just read a national story on another site that said it get's 20 mpg 11% bettter than earlier models.

The Swiss

04-08-2009, 02:03 PM

-- take off the 7 slot Jeep grill, and the Grand looks like it could just as easily have been styled by Kia

Chip Haven
Looks like a Trail Blazer to me. Probably drives and off-roads like one too :(

Zeero

04-08-2009, 02:21 PM

Looks like some hippy strewn space age design. Totally not what Jeep is all about. Designed by the same guy who did the 2nd phase Compass. (The 1st phase was originally supposed to be a Dakar Rally type vehicle that was buyable by the public.....)

I really think Jeep needs to separate into its own brand....get away from Chrysler and their prototype dreams....

I think Hummer needs to do the same....get away from GM and keep a tradition going..

...both need to be that "Go anywhere" type vehicles....

ExpoMike

04-08-2009, 05:04 PM

-- take off the 7 slot Jeep grill, and the Grand looks like it could just as easily have been styled by Kia

Chip Haven

I agree 100%. This could be the new Kia, if Chrysler goes bankrupt. Kia could buy them and change the grill and have a new model ready to go...

I also agree that the pricing puts it into a higher market in where the Jeep name is not respected.

Oh well, doesn't matter as I won't be buying it and with the current state of things, seriously doubt I will be buying any US brand.

Redline

04-08-2009, 07:12 PM

I love this term 'JAGSUV' :) did you invent it?

With the new JAGSUV (Just Another Generic Sport Utility Vehicle) concept,snip..............

Rob O

04-08-2009, 07:43 PM

Decided 'BMW X5' exterior styling ... and with estimate price point and options of the high-spec version, likely a targeted competitor when the business plan was drawn up by Jeep marketing folks. Too bad they'll have to discount the sh!t out of them to move 'em off lots (making the $45k MSRP less of a "suggested price" and more of a market segmentation pipe dream). Good news for those who are interested though ... they'll likely suffer insane depreciation and be available a year or two out (used) for less than 50% of sticker. ;-)

haven

04-08-2009, 11:13 PM

BKCowGod

04-09-2009, 05:07 AM

I love this term 'JAGSUV' :) did you invent it?

As far as I know... Maybe I should register it before Jeep or Tata takes it!

muddyluxury

04-11-2009, 04:48 PM

i wonder if you can ride around with the suspension cranked all the way up like that, just get some MTRs and call it good.

and to my knowladge the new GC i am assuming w/t the v8 would have the highest tow rating for anything in its class, i wanna say that would be competing with the likes the expedition and 1500 and 150 trucks

edit: can't wait to see what AEV does when they get thier hands on it

Tanto

04-11-2009, 05:45 PM

I'm going against the grain. I like it. It brings us back to the WJ in many ways from a design perspective. I would like 7 passenger seating.

I like the air suspension concept. Since I own both an IFS and live axle vehicle, I am more comfortable with IFS when married to an air suspension. Don't be so quick to degrade the design of that set up. The air suspension works well to maintain ground contact and promote good articulation.

I would love to have the opportunity to drive one of these and put it though its paces with an aggressive set of tires on it. I think the nay-sayers will be very surprised with out-of-the-box performance.

Now if they put front and rear lockers in it the vehicle will rival LR and LC models in capability. It may even do better because it has a lower Gross Vehicle Weight and shorter wheel base. From an expedition perspective this vehicle could have a lot of potential.

Backwoods Rambler

04-12-2009, 03:13 PM

I believe those V6 power ratings are comparable to the V8 H.O. ratings of the WJ. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Now my biggest concern would be the strength & durability of an IRS in real off-raod situations.

Other than that, I like what I'm seeing.

calamaridog

04-12-2009, 08:27 PM

Thank goodness they are finally debuting the revolutionary Phoenix (Pentastar) line of V6 motors. Let's pray it makes its way into the JK as soon as possible.

lexwoody

04-12-2009, 10:21 PM

I like IFS and IRS. TheTerrain Tranverse and air suspension is great for a Jeep.

haven

01-04-2010, 01:13 AM

Looks like the 2011 Grand Cherokee will get a chassis stretch
and be marketed as the new 2012 Dodge Durango

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spied/09q4/2012_dodge_durango-spied

That's not necessarily a bad thing. Cargo space has been an issue
for past versions of the Grand Cherokee. A stretched chassis would
make the addition of a comfortable third row possible, too. And maybe
the Dodge version would be less expensive.

haven

05-12-2010, 09:18 PM

Edmunds Inside Line has posted prices for the all-new 2011 Grand Cherokee, which goes on sale next month.

Laredo trim, $32,995
V6, AWD, Quadra-Trac I single speed transfer case
Quadra-Trac II with two speed transfer case an option

Limited trim, $39,995
V6, Quadra-Drive II 4WD, two speed transfer case, terrain-selectable traction control, 8.9" ground clearance

Overland trim, $42,995
V6, 4WD, Quadra-Drive II, terrain-selectable traction control, air suspension w/ 11" max ground clearance, nicer interior trim

Hemi V8 is optional in all trim levels

All models benefit from more storage space and more rear seat legroom, compared to 2010 Grand Cherokee

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/05/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-priced-at-30995.html

Tanto

05-13-2010, 05:31 AM

I like the look and features of this vehicle. If it offered a third row, I'd go back to the Jeep as a daily driver.

alexfm

05-13-2010, 02:10 PM

Autoblog has a series of photos taken at the Grand Cherokee introduction. Here's one that shows the 11 inches of ground clearance provided by the air suspension
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/2011-gc-air-susp.jpg

See the full set of photos here
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-live-reveal-1

The Grand Cherokee will have two rows of seats at first. I'd expect a stretched chassis with three rows (Grand Cherokee XL perhaps) in 2012.

Darton is right about the improved 3.6L gas V6. It's got 280 hp and 260 ft-lbs., up from 202 hp and 237 ft lb in the 2009 V6. An 11% improvement in fuel mileage would put it at 19 mpg combined. This engine will find its way into the Wrangler at some point.

Im sorry, but that just looks ridiculous. Who would need the available 4 inches of lift, when they're running 20 inch rims on street tires? And you can probably bet thats what it will come with from the factory. Without the grille and JEEP emblems, I think it looks just like a Honda Pilot.

Ok, I woke up early, decided to take out my frustration on the new GC. :coffee:

Alex.

Ford Prefect

05-13-2010, 03:43 PM

I am sorry to the Nay-sayers, but I love the thing!

It is a really nice looking vehicle. It would be a joy to drive, and to wheel.

the only thing I do not like about it is the fuel economy, or lack thereof.

Chip, you meantioned that sans the grill it would look like just any other SUV. That is the same thing people said about the Commander, the WJ, the ZJ, and the XJ. SO.... I figure big woop. If I can scrape together the cash I will buy one in a year or two.

getlost4x4

05-13-2010, 03:59 PM

my 78 waggy has more clearance, no lift and 31" tires. and it has solid axles, no stupid electronics to break while i'm four wheeling.

what a pile of crap. it better not be trail rated.

haven

05-13-2010, 04:13 PM

Trail Rated, indeed.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/2011grandcherokeeonrubicon.jpg

See more Rubicon photos here
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/02/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-tackles-rubicon-looking-to-become-trail/

The Allpar web site has a detailed summary of the equipment available on the 2011 Grand Cherokee.
The mall cruiser 20 inch rims are standard on the Overland trim. 17 inch rims are standard on Laredo,
18 inch rims on Limited trim.
http://www.allpar.com/trucks/jeep/2011-cherokee.html

Backwoods Rambler

05-13-2010, 09:51 PM

Haven, I believe that's an '05-'10 model in your pic However, I see that your links do in fact show '11 models traversing the Rubicon. In street tires no less!! And we all worry about sourcing some HD off road version of a tire.... :snorkel:

JeffRRC

05-13-2010, 10:16 PM

I think I remember that the '11 is built on the same platform as the Mercedes G class? It would make sense.

Desert Dan

05-13-2010, 10:21 PM

I wonder if 16" rims and 265x75 tires would fit?
That would make it look much better

mountainsoul

05-13-2010, 10:34 PM

I think I remember that the '11 is built on the same platform as the Mercedes G class? It would make sense.

I believe it shares the same platform as the ML.

deadbeat son

05-14-2010, 04:24 PM

Trail Rated, indeed.

See more Rubicon photos here
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/02/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-tackles-rubicon-looking-to-become-trail/

Albeit with more body damage than the new 4Runner:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/jpayne13/Random/88161563618137641436475337643518282.jpg

getlost4x4

05-14-2010, 07:21 PM

i'd love to see the underside after that. it will be smashed after this test and before it hits the road ever again.

gahill2

05-21-2010, 02:24 PM

haven

05-21-2010, 02:33 PM

Chrysler is having a big introductory "event" for the 2011 Grand
Cherokee today. Lots of Chrysler and Fiat management, and politicians
like the governor of Michigan, will attend. Delivery to dealers is
expected to start in late June.

mikeg1713

06-01-2010, 02:17 PM

I'm driving a 2011 grand in southern Maryland this Wed, June 2nd.

Amauri

06-01-2010, 10:15 PM

Woot take pictures!! :smiley_drive:

mikeg1713

06-03-2010, 03:32 AM

Sorry I had to delete these.

mikeg1713

06-03-2010, 03:35 AM

these are PRE-PRODUCTION!!! They can differ from what you will see on the lots come public release. They were drivable and ARE the most amazing Grand i have ever driven:wings:. I've been involved in Jeep sales for over 10 years.

Amauri

06-03-2010, 03:40 AM

Very nice!

getlost4x4

06-03-2010, 01:28 PM

the inside looks nice. but the front is still ugly.

realdeal

06-04-2010, 12:48 AM

No thanks. I hate the IFS in the front of my XK enough to promise myself I will avoid purchasing IFS rigs like the plague - let alone IFS and IRS.

IMHO, Jeep should keep it simple, strong, modifiable, and durable. Like a Wrangler Rubicon. That new GC just seems over-complicated, and I'm not so sure a company financially "on the rocks" is going to make all of that fancy crap reliable.

In short, Jeep doesn't need to follow Land Rover. (I can say that - I own an '04 Discovery, lol.) An LR3/4 is hard enough to modify, and I would trust it any farther than I could push it - literally. Likely the same with this GC.

winkosmosis

06-05-2010, 07:52 AM

realdeal, why do you hate your IFS?

modelbuilder

06-06-2010, 05:15 AM

My IFS has never given me any problems.

winkosmosis

06-06-2010, 05:17 AM

They took a step way back with the blobby WJ-esque styling. This is 2010, bar of soaps are no longer in fashion

getlost4x4

06-06-2010, 06:55 PM

:clapsmile:clapsmile:clapsmile:clapsmile

They took a step way back with the blobby WJ-esque styling. This is 2010, bar of soaps are no longer in fashion

modelbuilder

06-06-2010, 07:40 PM

Who did you sell your Commander to?

realdeal

06-07-2010, 11:47 PM

realdeal, why do you hate your IFS?

My experience is limited to the XK, but:

1) It feels significantly weaker than a front axle (bumps, crawling, etc.)
2) It doesn't like to be lifted over 2" unless you drop the front cradle, which I'm not a fan of.
3) When you do lift it, EVERYTHING is out of whack, and you need offset upper balljoints to fix the camber. Tires like this: \\ // (front view)
3) No flex.
4) The little bit of flex you do get (w/o swaybar) allows the spindle to come into contact with the strut when unloaded (due to short A-arms).
5) In general, harder to modify and more crap to go wrong or get loose, and it's more expensive.

I hate IFS.

BUT, I absolutely love my XK and consider the IFS the only main gripe I have. The flexless front end is somewhat compensated for with QuadraDrive II.

Root Moose

06-15-2010, 08:56 PM

First commercial for the new Grand.

Does this smell like Jeep has found it's mojo?

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/10/video-first-2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-commercial-released?icid=sphere_searchsphere_news [ scroll down to the video ]

tacomadave

06-15-2010, 09:16 PM

Thats a cool commercial.

CJC99TJ

06-15-2010, 09:31 PM

thats a cool commercial.

x2!

winkosmosis

06-15-2010, 09:40 PM

My experience is limited to the XK, but:

1) It feels significantly weaker than a front axle (bumps, crawling, etc.)
2) It doesn't like to be lifted over 2" unless you drop the front cradle, which I'm not a fan of.
3) When you do lift it, EVERYTHING is out of whack, and you need offset upper balljoints to fix the camber. Tires like this: \\ // (front view)
3) No flex.
4) The little bit of flex you do get (w/o swaybar) allows the spindle to come into contact with the strut when unloaded (due to short A-arms).
5) In general, harder to modify and more crap to go wrong or get loose, and it's more expensive.

I hate IFS.

BUT, I absolutely love my XK and consider the IFS the only main gripe I have. The flexless front end is somewhat compensated for with QuadraDrive II.

Hmm... Does any vehicle have a good IFS? Toyota?

haven

06-16-2010, 01:10 AM

How about the IFS on the Ford Raptor pickup? 11 inches of wheel travel.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/ifs-4.jpg

It's true that you don't see IFS on rock-hopping buggies because they need maximum articulation. For the rest of us, IFS works fine.

JeffRRC

06-16-2010, 01:19 AM

That commercial - WOW, I just hope the Grand is half as good as the commercial. If it is, Jeep has a new hit.

mountainsoul

06-16-2010, 02:26 AM

Was that a leather dash on the Overland model?

Desert Dan

06-16-2010, 02:38 AM

I hope you can put 16" rims and a tire with some sidewall on the new Grand.

Those low profile street tires are a hinderance off the pavement.

Maybe the Overland Package has something in store?

Root Moose

06-16-2010, 02:43 AM

Hmm... Does any vehicle have a good IFS? Toyota?

You need to define good before you can answer that.

IMO, any SLA front suspension is decent. The rest is a function of the strnegth of the CV shafts.

jingram

06-16-2010, 06:57 AM

GREAT Ad!! Hopefully Jeep sticks with that ad firm and theme for some time, it will certainly serve them well.

mikeg1713

06-17-2010, 01:08 AM

So I haven't read the thread in full. I got to drive 12 of the 2011's 2 weeks ago. Sorry I can't post photos or my videos. I signed a form that I could be fined or fired. This new grand is bad ***! I've been a jeep owner since 1995 and have owned, driven, & wheeled every jeep from 1945 to now. I did everything I could and almost got removed when I tried to roll a larado,....lol. I wasn't sure what to think before I got to test them. But after I spent some time in them I was very happy what I saw. We did a off road coarse, high speed, and high speed manuvering such as Lane change and 60mph cone dodgeing.......lol that's where I tried to roll it. All I can say is give it a chance I did and I'd gladly buy one!

Ok so I'm a moron.... I forgot that I already posted on this site and I had photos up. I had to delete them.

haven

06-20-2010, 07:35 PM

Looks like Chrysler raised its embargo on road tests of the new Grand Cherokee (GC). Lots of online sources now have impressions, most gained at a recent test day sponsored by Jeep at the Hollister Hills off-highway vehicle park in northern California.

Here's a list of new reviews I saw this morning.

Edmunds Inside Line
http://www.insideline.com/jeep/grand-cherokee/2011/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-limited-4x4-v6-first-drive.html

Autoblog
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/20/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-first-drive/

Car and Driver
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/10q2/2011_jeep_grand_cherokee_-first_drive_review

Motor Trend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1008_2011_jeep_grand_cherokee_drive/index.html

Road & Track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/impressions/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee

Autoweek
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100620/CARREVIEWS/100619858

Automobile Magazine not yet

A few notes from the reviews:
-- The GC is available only with a 5 speed automatic. Chrysler will start building the ZF 8 speed auto soon. /Inside Line
-- "The new V6 isn't up to the task of moving the 5000 lb GC when passing on a two lane road." /Autoblog
-- "once you experience the Quadra-Lift air suspension, you'll never be content with coil springs again." /Inside Line
-- "Even while losing the [solid rear] axle, Jeep calls this 'the most capable Grand Cherokee ever.' " /Car and Driver
-- "Most impressive? The new interior." /Car and Driver
--"It was impossible not to be impressed with the GC's [off-road] capabilities." /Road &Track

winkosmosis

06-20-2010, 08:33 PM

Bah! Those are all car magazines that are so small minded that they think it's better for a truck to drive like a car. They'll criticize the Wrangler for not having "road manners" or whatever.

haven

06-20-2010, 11:21 PM

Remember that most Grand Cherokee owners don't take their $40,000 vehicles on anything more challenging than a fire road. Jeep makes the Wrangler for the trails that start where the fire road ends.

I think Jeep has done a good job with the new GC. On the low end, it can compete with the unibody SUVs like the new Ford Explorer and Chevy Equinox. On the high end, the GC compares well with the Land Rover LR4, Mercedes ML350, VW Touareg and BMW X5. The GC Limited and Overland models are priced at least a couple of thousand dollars cheaper than the Euro SUVs.

Hey, Overland Journal staff! Please set up these side-by-side comparisons: Wrangler vs 4Runner, and Grand Cherokee vs LR4.

Root Moose

06-21-2010, 12:39 AM

I agree. The new Grand is properly poised to compete with other vehicles in its segment. Things are looking good for Jeep. Seems like Jeep is always the brand to save Chrysler from certain doom in recent history.

Of the competition the only vehicle I would consider cross shopping is the Touareg. The X5 and ML are completely uninspiring as they are purely road vehicles. I wouldn't trust the LR4 any farther out than the suburbs which is a real shame.

IMNSHO of course.

mountainsoul

06-21-2010, 12:49 AM

Drove one yesterday. Very briefly on pavement. Noticeable improvements were the interior ergonomics, overall fit and finish, rear leg room, extra power from the V6, smoothness and overall refinement. Didn't have chance to play in the dirt or with the adaptable terrain modes. Need more time behind the wheel before I can make any solid judgements but it seems to be a big step forward for the GC.

haven

08-25-2010, 02:55 PM

Motor Trend compared the Grand Cherokee Overland with the Land Rover LR4 HSE. Result: GC is improved, but LR4 remains a better choice.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1010_2011_jeep_grand_cherokee_v8_vs_2010_land_rove r_lr4_v8/index.html

Since the LR4 costs $10K more than the GC, you might expect these results. Subtract the HSE trim package, and the difference is about $4K.

nwoods

08-26-2010, 02:04 AM

Motor Trend compared the Grand Cherokee Overland with the Land Rover LR4 HSE. Result: GC is improved, but LR4 remains a better choice.

That's interesting. I made a similar comparison here:
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47554

I note that they always misquote the LR3/LR3/RRS platform's ground clearance. There are three off road heights. The highest setting (super extended mode) is 5" higher than normal mode. Also, they never mentioned features that are important to off road use, such as the tie downs.

4Rescue

08-27-2010, 05:45 AM

:oops: :eek: :smilies27: That is one UGLY car IMO. It's certainly not a Truck anymore. I find it sort of laughable that they even offer an "Overland" model(the JK makes perfect sence and is one hell of a Truck but this thing??? :confused: ). Not that I gave much credence to Jeep's whole "Trail Rated" schtick, but this is officialy the death of the Grand as a usefull 4wd IMO. It appears that with all the neat "concept" vehicles Jeep has been churning out (Nukizer :drool: , Imortal :drool: , Trail Boss and Even the Patriot Extreme), it made more sence to make yet another generic Car-based SUV. No sale, in fact I think I threw up a little when I saw it for the first time. More so everytime I've seen it subsequently.

Cheers

Dave

Root Moose

08-27-2010, 12:45 PM

I don't think Jeep is terribly worried about it, Dave. You were never going to buy one regardless of what it was anyway. ;)

Serious point: what are people's take on this vehicle being cross-shopped with the new Explorer? I reckon Jeep may have a hard time on its hands now that Ford has shown its cards.

4Rescue

08-27-2010, 10:46 PM

I don't think Jeep is terribly worried about it, Dave. You were never going to buy one regardless of what it was anyway. ;)

....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good one mate, that is a true statement eh ;)

EDIT: To be fair though mate... I've hade more then a few XJ's and I am an admited LJ LOVER to the bottom of my heart (also love CJ6's and *'s alot too) I'm just no fan of Uni-body Jeeps for MANY good reasons. Still think they're very compotent trail rigs, I just prefer my much heavier-duty Body on Frame trucks eh ;) Plus, just because tyou drive a Jeep doesn't mean I wouldn't LOVE to go out and wheel with you. I'm more about the Man/Woman behind the wheel and making good friends over comon interest's. Therefore no matter what you drive I'd still love to meet you and jaw your ear off some day mate. Certainly hope I didn't offend eh ;)

Cheers

Dave

JeffRRC

08-28-2010, 01:22 AM

The '11 GC looks much better than the newest 4Runner, especially in person.

4Rescue

09-08-2010, 04:53 AM

SO reading the new Car and Driver test of the new GC I can't find ANY reference to it having a true T-case w/low range... Is this true??? If it doesn't then IMO the GC truly IS dead as an off-road worthy truck. I thought it had a full compliment of E-lockers so I'd assume it'd still have a Low-Range box. BUT I'm seeing NO reference to it and usualy they're pretty good about covering everything like that in the stats section. Odd to say the least.

The '11 GC looks much better than the newest 4Runner, especially in person.
I gotta whole heartedly DISagree with you there. The 5th Gen 4Runn is, to me, dead sexy And next to the JK Wrangler Runbicon, and the Power Wagon the most capable new truck on the market. But that's a subjective argument and you certainly don't have to have the same opinion as me eh ;)

Cheers

DAve

winkosmosis

09-08-2010, 06:30 AM

I just saw an ad about the skidplates.

I'm pretty sure skidplates are still an OPTION on every Jeep vehicle even though all get that "trail rated" badge. Are tow hooks even standard yet?

YouTube- 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee - Skid Plate

haven

09-17-2010, 12:03 AM

Truck Trend completed its two part comparison of the new Grand Cherokee. The first article compared the GC with the Lard Rover LR4. Winner: LR4.

This time, the competitor is the Toyota 4Runner Trail Edition.

Result: The Trail version of the 4Runner is better off-road, but the GC is better everywhere else. Winner: Grand Cherokee. (Maybe if the comparison was with a 4Runner Limited, the result would be different.)

http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/suv/163_1012_2011_jeep_grand_cherokee_v6_vs_2010_toyot a_4runner_v6/index.html

Root Moose

09-17-2010, 12:13 AM

...compared the GC with the Lard Rover LR4...

Freudian slip?

Overdrive

09-20-2010, 02:15 PM

It's my wifes new commuter/ski trip car. V6 4x4. And yes, before signing on the dotted line I asked if she would'nt rather have a Wrangler instead. :)

She took off from Tucson to meet up with a friend in Grand Junction for the wine festival, with ~400 miles on the odo at the start of this road trip. Got back home last night, adding 1503 miles for this trip. Mostly drove secondary roads, with about 200 miles of it being interstate. Also a look/see to Grand Mesa.

She does not drive for economy--she is either on the gas, or on the brake.:eek: Anyway, I'm very happy with the 24.35 mpg average for the 1503 miles. Best tank (well, not a full tank...more like a half tank) was 27.2 mpg, and worst tank was 23.5.

:sombrero:

Flagster

09-27-2010, 03:11 PM

If anyone is buying a new Grand Cherokee...look out for empty 40s under the seat...

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/caught_on_camera_chrysler_work.html

http://www.media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.do?id=9677&mid=1

winkosmosis

09-27-2010, 04:46 PM