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LIVEABOARD
05-13-2009, 09:10 PM
Finally got JK unlimited want to keep expedition rig build very basic 33 or 35 tires what would u do ?

The Swiss
05-13-2009, 09:52 PM
I am no fan of too big tires so I would say 33 ...

LIVEABOARD
05-13-2009, 10:02 PM
agree wanting 2 go w/33's but dont really want 2 lift much more then stock if at all what do u sugest for springs shocks installing AEV bumper/winch

Exrunner
05-13-2009, 10:57 PM
You should definitely search through the Jeep section, as there is a ton of information on modifying JKs. You can gain a lot of knowledge pretty quick that way. Good Luck!

redbeard
05-13-2009, 11:18 PM
according to 4wd.com you can fit 33's with very little lift. I think 32's fit stock.

winkosmosis
05-13-2009, 11:24 PM
Apparently you can even fit 33" without a lift, but there will be "some rubbing"

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=610856



FAQ: Will it rub?
The JK with stock wheels, no spacer, no lift

32" tires: no rubbing
33" tires: some rubbing
35" tires: don't try

The JK with stock wheels, 1 1/4" spacer, no lift

32" tires: no rubbing
33" tires: some rubbing
35" tires: don't try

The JK with stock wheels, no spacer, 2" lift

33" tires: no rubbing
35" tires: some rubbing
37" tires: don't try

The JK with stock wheels, 1 1/4" spacer, 4" lift

33" tires: no rubbing
35" tires: no rubbing
37" tires: some rubbing
38" tires: be careful
39" tires: don't try

jasonL_031
05-13-2009, 11:25 PM
yea on a 4 door rubi it has 32s on it with no rub when flexed out.

winkosmosis
05-13-2009, 11:43 PM
If you want to use 33", figure out where it rubs.

My XJ has 31x10.5" tires on 2" lift, and the tires are wide enough that they rubbed on the control arms before I put some washers in the steering stops. I think I'd rather have a narrower 31", but there is no such thing.

If the 33" tires rub on the arms, there is an easy solution... use a narrower 33".

haven
05-14-2009, 12:21 AM
The Jeep Wrangler "Overland" concept built by the Mopar Underground design team and show at this year's Easter Jeep Safari is a good example of a mild build of a Wrangler Unlimited.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/wrangeler-overland.jpg

Here are a couple of higher resolution photos
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/09april/jeep_overland.asp

interior:
remove rear seat
rubber floor mats front and rear
water resistant front seat covers
Daystar dash and switch panel

internal "roll bar" to support roof rack
photos of the roll bar here http://forum.jkboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=7603&sid=008fedc917025413f2a9dcf043e90788

hardtop roof painted to match the body
rooftop rack and awning
roof-mounted tent

Mopar 2.5 inch suspension lift
I think this is made by Rough Country. Other JK 2.5 inch lift kits
are available from Skyjacker and Teraflex

heavy duty rear sway bar by Full-Traction

BF Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A 35 inch tires
17 inch Mopar steel wheels, painted to match the body
probably should install 4.88 gears for the taller tires

AEV front bumper with winch plate
Warn 9.5ti winch

custom rear bumper with tire swing-away mount

AEV heat reduction hood and snorkel

Mopar windshield-mounted off-road lights
Daystar bumper mounted lights

Zeero
05-14-2009, 12:54 AM
32''s are stock size on 17" rims.

For expedition use i would recommend 3" inch Old Man Emu spring lift and 34-35" tires.

Example: We run the OME lift with 34.5" Maxxis MT tires, zero rubbing, except at full compression in the rear....however that can be avoided with the sway bar disconnected in the front.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/zeerotoo/DSC_3914.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/zeerotoo/DSC_3880.jpg

The 3" lift and 34.5" Maxxis Bighorns are nowhere near "over the top" and work perfectly well with the 4.10 gears....a great basic setup for expedition use.

:elkgrin:

Hilldweller
05-14-2009, 06:49 PM
I'd do an Nth Degree 3.5" lift and 35's ---- I see breakover angle as something to mitigate with the longer wheelbase of an Unlimited. A 2-door is fine on 33's for overlanding.

And 33's won't rub if you pick the right tire and wheel/offset at stock ride height. I get a very small amount of rub on my fenders at full-stuff in the rear with 285/75-16 MTR Kevlars on Procomp wheels with 4.5" backspacing and 0 offset.
4.75" backspacing and 255/85-16 and I bet you'd get no rub at all (and make all the Landy guys burst with joy at your tire choice).



I'm liking that idea of mounting the basket on the roof with rollbar support underneath.
Thank you...

LIVEABOARD
05-14-2009, 06:59 PM
Will not be doing any rock stuff or river fording just dirt/gravel fire roads desert roads lots hwy as well 35 would be 2 big i think just want nice ride and keep it simple

JIMBO
05-14-2009, 07:00 PM
:sombrero: You have a large field of racks, from cheap to expensive

Now there's a new one that will support well over 500 lbs

Checkitout


http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/jimbowby/PICT0106.jpg

MBRP JK RACK (mbrp.com)

:coffeedrink::Wow1::safari-rig::safari-rig: JIMBO

Zeero
05-14-2009, 07:57 PM
LIVEABOARD,

Sounds to me like you'd do just fine with a bone stock Rubicon model.

It will have everything you need.

MBATF
05-15-2009, 05:26 AM
Finally got JK unlimited want to keep expedition rig build very basic 33 or 35 tires what would u do ?

For Unlimited Jk I would suggest you to go with at least 35". You will be able to complete 90% of trails out there with ease. :ylsmoke:

Hilldweller
05-15-2009, 09:31 AM
Will not be doing any rock stuff or river fording just dirt/gravel fire roads desert roads lots hwy as well 35 would be 2 big i think just want nice ride and keep it simple

Then some Cooper ST 255/85-16 on a set of 16" wheels would be perfect. At most a set of 3/4" poly spacers on top of the springs to clear the last bit of rub on the fenders.
No frills but first-cabin at the same time.

Chris85xlt
05-26-2009, 10:48 PM
The Jeep Wrangler "Overland" concept built by the Mopar Underground design team and show at this year's Easter Jeep Safari is a good example of a mild build of a Wrangler Unlimited.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/wrangeler-overland.jpg

Here are a couple of higher resolution photos
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/09april/jeep_overland.asp

interior:
remove rear seat
rubber floor mats front and rear
water resistant front seat covers
Daystar dash and switch panel

internal "roll bar" to support roof rack
photos of the roll bar here http://forum.jkboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=7603&sid=008fedc917025413f2a9dcf043e90788

hardtop roof painted to match the body
rooftop rack and awning
roof-mounted tent

Mopar 2.5 inch suspension lift
I think this is made by Rough Country. Other JK 2.5 inch lift kits
are available from Skyjacker and Teraflex

heavy duty rear sway bar by Full-Traction

BF Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A 35 inch tires
17 inch Mopar steel wheels, painted to match the body
probably should install 4.88 gears for the taller tires

AEV front bumper with winch plate
Warn 9.5ti winch

custom rear bumper with tire swing-away mount

AEV heat reduction hood and snorkel

Mopar windshield-mounted off-road lights
Daystar bumper mounted lights


sweet, i just saw this jeep buzzing around Pasadena

Bigjerm
05-27-2009, 07:00 PM
Then some Cooper ST 255/85-16 on a set of 16" wheels would be perfect. At most a set of 3/4" poly spacers on top of the springs to clear the last bit of rub on the fenders.
No frills but first-cabin at the same time.

I agree with this. If you don't plan to rock crawl or do some of the more up and down trails that high center us 4 door guys then a stock JK with some used Rubicon wheels and tires or a plain Rubicon will do you fine. I do play on the rocks and my 4 door Rubicon with a few skids added and a 2.5" TF Budget Boost lift has made it possible to do A LOT of obstacles.

I say for your needs:
-stock Rubicon (or get some 32" mud terrains on a lower model).
-front bumper and winch.
-rear bumper (with a place to hold a highlift maybe).
-then to keep ride height about level get some ¾” spacers.
-aux lights.
-if you want a step, invest in rock rails that stick out so you can have a step, protection and a highlift jack point all in one.
-you can never go wrong adding skid plates even if all you think you will do it gravel roads. One hole in an oil pan, bent driveshaft, ripping off the evap canister, could be the difference in a night camping in the Jeep or hiking out vs making it home.

Hilldweller
05-28-2009, 01:01 PM
-if you want a step, invest in rock rails that stick out so you can have a step, protection and a highlift jack point all in one.

I saw the RR rail/steps the other day on Kenny's JK --- I forgot to check if they mount to the frame...
They looked like a good alternative to the stock plastic step...

JIMBO
05-28-2009, 01:29 PM
:sombrero:I've got a set of Olympic sliders on my JK and they stickout about 8" and have flat spots underneath, fore and aft, to use the Hi-Lift-it works


http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/jimbowby/PICT0102.jpg

They don't attach to the frame, but they're heavy duty and will support the jeep on it's side

:smiley_drive::safari-rig::safari-rig: JIMBO

Bigjerm
05-28-2009, 06:51 PM
I saw the RR rail/steps the other day on Kenny's JK --- I forgot to check if they mount to the frame...
They looked like a good alternative to the stock plastic step...

I had them on my 2 door. The bolt to the frame at the same place the tub bolts to the frame. The studs are already there so drilling required. The 4 door uses the same 2 mount points and at first I figure that would be a little to spread out but people are giving good reviews.