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alosix

08-25-2009, 01:26 AM

a.mus.ed

08-25-2009, 01:48 AM

I've seen people live out of less. What do you need to be happy?

alosix

08-25-2009, 02:01 AM

I've seen people live out of less. What do you need to be happy?

I think that's what I'm trying to figure out :)

Both of my parents (yes both) have spent a considerable amount of their lives living in Semi Truck sleepers driving coast to coast.

I left a good sized 4br house last year to move out west to a 1br apartment in the silly valley. Starting to find that less living space == less stuff, which seems to equal happier/less stressed Jason.

FourByLand

08-25-2009, 02:24 AM

Hi Jason,

Welcome to the Portal.

:ylsmoke:

WF-Wagrub

08-25-2009, 02:35 AM

AFSOC

08-25-2009, 02:41 AM

WF-Wagrub

08-25-2009, 02:55 AM

Ok, longer explaination:
I totally understand what Jason is looking for. After many years of living in one place I sold my house, quit my permanent job and started working temporary / Seasonal jobs. That was late 2002 / early 2003.
It's not for everyone, particularly if you have 'Family', but it is do-able. I've lived on the NC Coast, NC Mountains, Nevada, Alaska, and am Currently living in Yellowstone. I don't know if you'd call my lifestyle 'Overlanding' or not, but rather than a Vacation to someplace I get to live in an area and get to know the community of people that live there.

good luck Jason
Randy

alosix

08-25-2009, 03:21 AM

It all depends on what kind of lifestyle you can live with. I currently live out of a TJ & Small Trailer. I lived out of a Dakota & 5X8 cargo trailer from 03 until 08. When I'm working I rent a place and when I'm traveling I have nothing to weigh me down.

That doesn't sound a whole lot different. I'm still trying to get rid of my house in MD, but I'm pretty much living out of what would fit in the Jeep and 4x6 trailer when I moved out to CA.

I'm still trying to work this out and it would be a little while before we took the plunge. I like to get places by driving and have found that myself and my GF can adapt to about anything. If she had her way we'd probably be roaming around on a small sail boat, and who knows.. that might just be phase 2.

Jason

winkosmosis

08-25-2009, 03:35 AM

Get a boat that you can put your vehicle onto.

mhiscox

08-25-2009, 03:44 AM

I've seen people live out of less. What do you need to be happy?
Well said. The XV-LT has a lot of advantages--solar power, a permanent bed, a toilet system workable anywhere, good capacities, quite secure, etc.--that make it probably the best choice of something of that form factor. But in spite of the nice materials and workmanship, the cabin's still not much different in size from a jail cell. That said, though, you have only to look at the number of Europeans taking two years at a time to travel the Americas out of the back of smaller cabins than the ER has to see that it's clearly doable.

It may well depend on the different places where you will be. It's a lot easier to spend long periods in a small cabin when the weather is good and you spend most time outside versus being stuck 24/7 in the cabin because of inclement--cold, snow, rain, sandstorm, whatever--weather.

Either way, figure that if it would work for you, you'd be widely admired and envied. :)

Scott Brady

08-25-2009, 04:30 AM

Easily, and many do. I have spent quite a bit of time in the LTs.

dbreid

08-25-2009, 05:10 AM

when I moved out to CA.
Jason

I see you are in Santa Clara. So am I! Welcome to CA!

1leglance

08-25-2009, 05:47 AM

The Badgers have lived for a while in their Sportsmobile...search here and google badgertrek I think.
Great read and very nice people

haven

08-25-2009, 06:05 AM

Life in a camper becomes more complicated if you have a significant other living in the camper with you. Even though the XV-LT is a large camper, it's awkward for two people to move around without the "after you, Alphonse" sort of dance. I guess you get better at it with practice!

Forum member "Carlyle" recently completed outfitting a custom Alaskan Camper. He works at a hospital and has shifts that are 12 hours on, 12 off. Rather than commute, he drives the camper to work, and lives in the camper in the parking lot between shifts. Read about his camper here
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9502

Momrocks

08-25-2009, 02:11 PM

I completely agree that the ER XV-LT is fully capable of being “lived out of” for years. I think the limiting factor is all human. I know several who are snow birds and travel south for the winter living 4-6 months (sometimes a month or two longer) in self contained RVs. My grandparents traveled between Mexico/Arizona and Montana for several years. It’s an adventure but not without some sacrifice.

I also know of some “one winter wonders”, folks who burned their briefcases and bought an RV for a “life on the road.” After the first winter living aboard found that the romance of the concept was far stronger than their resolve to the compromises required. Those RVs spend their time in the driveway and are lucky to see a week on the road annually.

Of course their exceptions to every situation, the ones I pointed out are generalizations. There are some who have no issue living out of a van, RV or even a rented storage unit…truly nomadic souls. I speculate most people feel a need for grounding. It is my observation that most who do extended travel successfully have a location they call home, be it a brick and mortar home or other location where belongings are stored. As humans we are driven for a belonging and need to accumulate stuff. The concept of home just makes people at ease.

Living for a couple of years in an ER or sailboat is possible but not for everyone. It is an undeniably romantic notion. Execution is equally, undeniably difficult. Giving up possessions (frivolous as they may be) and home (in concept) is not as easy in practice as it is to rationalize. It takes the rare combination of like minded spouses, who are truly compatible and willing to forgo some conventional comforts for the reward of freedom most of us will not know.

I don’t think I am alone on this forum, dreaming about this lifestyle. I am a realist though and admit I cannot achieve this right now. Children, obligations and business are considerations but my lack of resolve is the greatest factor. I have structured my investments to leave the possibility open in ten years when my youngest is in college and if or when I/we achieve the willingness liquidate material assets and accept some compromises for the road’s reward.

haven

08-25-2009, 03:10 PM

"the romance of the concept was far stronger than their resolve to the compromises required..."

I think this also applies to people who install an industrial 4 cylinder diesel in
an overland vehicle. Their resolve can't overcome the reality of the noisy,
smelly, underpowered result. So you see lots of vehicles for sale with ads
that read, "Only 1000 miles on diesel engine." But I digress...

Another forum member who is planning to live aboard, this time with the whole family,
is Jay Shapiro. Read about his vehicle preparations here:
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8936
and here http://www.EcoRoamer.com

JRhetts

08-25-2009, 07:17 PM

alosix

08-25-2009, 09:30 PM

"One" CERTAINLY CAN live in an EarthRoamer full time. My wife and I have done it for as much a four months at a time -- limited by agricultural requirements at the small ranch we have not yet sold before proceeding on to do this full time.

Not everyone can do it, anymore than everyone can camp in a tent or live on a sailboat. But all the amenities are there and plenty of room and storage for necessities and a reasonable dose of luxuries.

So, the question really is NOT "Can one do it", it's "Can I do it?" Only you can answer that!

That IS the question isn't it :)

Downside here is, this is probably one of those things that you have to try before you'll know.

My Dad was an OTR trucker for years before he passed. Soon after he passed my mom decided she wanted to do that and went off and started driving (this was about 10 years ago) She's had a few spells being at home since then, but it seems to drive her insane.

The downsizing I did last year has kinda opened my eyes. I lived in the same zip code (4 houses) for 32 years before moving out here. I think we can do it, and its not really a romantic idea. I end up working so much as a code slave the only way I'd get to travel the way I'd like to is to work remotely from a vehicle like that.

There's still nothing stopping us from grabbing an apartment here and there if we feel like we need to stop for a little while.

ujoint

08-25-2009, 10:15 PM

I'd love to. :)

jkam

08-26-2009, 02:00 AM

I spent 7 years living on a motorcycle traveling the world.

I finally had enough of the minimalist life and now live in a small 24' class C RV. Having amenities available like a roof over my head when it's raining for days on end and not being stuck in a tent has been great.

You can get by with very little if you so choose. Having a partner along can complicate things, depending on how well you get along in a confined space.

The downside is that now I have much more to maintain and the expense of something breaking that I can't repair myself.

Compromise, it's all about compromising and what you are willing to live without.

boblynch

08-26-2009, 03:43 PM

Funny this thread was the first one that caught my eye after being ExPo-free for the last 30 days. I have the same truck as the ER uses, and a modified truck camper for extended family travels. It's almost the same size (albeit not as well fitted) as the ER. The build thread is here. http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23173

I just spent 30 days on the road with my wife, 2 kids, and a 95lb dog. With a few modifications the family could easily live out of the vehicle for months at a time. If I was working and traveling solo it (or an ER) could easily be my full time office/home for years.

However, I agree with the other posts in that it's a very personal thing and the biggest burden is the mental one. If you need a bunch of stuff, a fixed place to call home, roots in a community, etc. the mental transition could be hard. If you don't, then it could be a great option. Personally, I wouldn't know what to do with that much space for just me. I'd opt for a smaller platform. However, I could and have lived out of a backpack for longer than is considered "normal".

My suggestion would be to borrow or rent something of similar size and live and travel in it for a month or two if possible. You'll learn a lot about your own style and requirements. If the investment and lifestyle of an ER still appeals to you then go for it. Good luck.

haven

08-26-2009, 03:55 PM

"Modified truck camper" doesn't say nearly enough about Bob's project.
He had the inspiration to lengthen the camper by 3 feet to make room
for two bunk beds across the rear of the camper. each bunk gets a window,
too.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30648&d=1248743508

The bunk beds provide permanent sleeping facilities for his two kids.
Very clever!

Chip Haven

alosix

08-26-2009, 07:28 PM

Ya know.. I'm thinking if this requires a month of so 'testing it out'

I keep forgetting I already have something that'll get me 90% of the way there. just needs to be outfitted a bit more

http://picasaweb.google.com/jpower2/M725#

How about a Hemi powered M725? :)

Kodachrome

08-31-2009, 05:43 AM

I am in the process of putting a "Bobcat" All Terrain Camper on my 05 Tacoma. I am having some custom work done to it including solar as I am going to live in this combo for a photo driven project for over a year. I have lived in far less and been able to get by, maybe not super comfortable, but not suffering either so I am pretty stoked at the upcoming combo. And to be honest, it is bigger and more resource consuming than I would like, so it is the biggest I could ever go with in terms of my conscience for the environment.

But these Earth Roamer things, I just saw one last week and thought it was WAAAAY too big and bulky, I mean, what's next, Hugh Heffner mounting his pad to a Space Shuttle Crawler as a 4WD R/V?

If they made a unit for a converted Tacoma / Hi-lux that was turbo diesel, I might look at it, but man, the other things are just silly big.

So my short answer is no, I could not live in an Earth Roamer because it is more than I as a human being actually need in real life in which to live.

Northern Explorer

09-01-2009, 03:07 AM

I have never seen one in person inside or out but I am fairly certain I could live in one no problem.

henry2

09-01-2009, 07:49 AM

being single is not a problem for me.. for i will be the only one inside the truck camper with a female guest here and there i met on the road when work for most of my time is spent on site and it makes it much easlyer on me to have something that i can walk from the trailer over the truck and spend the night without going back to a hotel room that about 20 to 30 mins away and have to fight the traffic in and back everyday to the job site..

here are some of the question i ask was about when liveing in the truck full time..

getting in and out the sleeping area and climbing up onto the seat then into the bunk

another question was how long does the fuel tank last when at a job site just starting up the truck here and there to go someplace like into to town to food and get fresh water....

cooking inside the camper was one of the things i ask about

how long does the battie power last when just sitting and not moveing

when driveing down the road in bad wet weather conditions how does the truck handle does it get a lose as a goose typle when driveing ..

since i will not be going off road much with it i ask for home in tenn where the cabin is only about 50 ft off the main road there and i have drive a car back there to send the night when i was home ..

how is the sat tv when it work right ..

does the cabin windows up front leak as dick smith talked about on his blog ..

parking in diff places when driveing for the night ..

just little things that you think about when you see a picture that they take and post on the websites and then you ask your self ok how was the ride here and how was the handleing of the truck there ..

Doin_It

09-01-2009, 07:31 PM

Rent a small Class C motor home, or best yet a pickup and camper, and 98% of your answers will be answered by your experiences. Can you live in one, of course you can, that is what it's built for. Can YOU live in one, only you can answer that, so like I said rent a regular camper unit and you'll see if it's for you....cause it ain't for everyone thats for sure.

The rental will be a small price compared to buying one and finding out it isn't your style.

DrMoab

09-02-2009, 12:49 AM

No offence to the Earth Roamer guys (trust me I think they are one of the coolest inventions ever) but I would take that truck of yours over one any day!

I've always thought you could build a really neat overlander out of one with a modern cummins diesel for a powerplant. Sure it would take tons of money but then again...this IS the Earth Roamer page right? :D

Ya know.. I'm thinking if this requires a month of so 'testing it out'

I keep forgetting I already have something that'll get me 90% of the way there. just needs to be outfitted a bit more

http://picasaweb.google.com/jpower2/M725#

How about a Hemi powered M725? :)

GlobalMonkey

09-03-2009, 06:33 AM

boblynch

09-03-2009, 06:18 PM

Chip, do you have any more info about the truck in the picture?
Thanx, Tomas
The truck pictured is mine. If you have any questions that aren't covered in our build thread send me a PM. http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23173

GlobalMonkey

09-04-2009, 05:49 AM

The truck pictured is mine. If you have any questions that aren't covered in our build thread send me a PM. http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23173

Thank you, that is a great looking truck, I will send you PM shortly, Tomas

Jim1960

09-28-2009, 08:20 PM

Say you figured a way to make your living on the move. As a fairly independent programmer as long as I have internet access I normally have income.

What if I wanted to travel around, kinda slowly, in one of these. Setting up wherever I could in the americas.

Could you live out of one as a 'primary residence' for a few years?

Jason

If I were going to work and live out of an RV, but not go off road too far, I would get a Chevy 2500 4x4 diesel and a fifth wheel. This way the home stays put while I travel into the nearest town for washing and supplies. The Earth Roamer IMHO is way to small for a couple years on the road. You will get cramped. The ER is they type of vehicle I would take to Alaska for a 6 month trip.

IMHO as always

SOAZ

10-22-2009, 03:13 AM

BigJimCruising

10-22-2009, 11:46 PM

Been living in my rig for over 2 and a half years now and no problems. Still love it! I can't imagine why I needed such a big place to live in before! lol! You just have to choose if you want a big place to keep lots of junk you rarely use or a small place with just those things that are really important to you. So far it's been working for me.

alosix

10-22-2009, 11:57 PM

BigJimCruising

10-23-2009, 12:03 AM

Hi Jason, I work full time for the government, and no, I'm not here to help. lol! During the week I usually just stay in the parking lot. On weekends I'll often go to the local Elks lodge or head out for camping and shooting and such. 2 more years and I can retire and travel full time. I did this now so that when I retire I'll have everything paid off and will only have to pay for gas and food when traveling.

alia176

11-11-2009, 07:27 PM

There was a ER for sale not too long ago and my wife caught me daydreaming while starting at it on the computer screen :drool: It is indeed a beautiful package and I assume it's very comfortable inside.

However, after seeing the various cab over campers with the slideouts at a campground in CO last summer, I wonder if you'd be more comfortable inside one of those vs inside a ER for long term living. It's rather eye opening to see how much room opens up when the sliders are out. I think the unit I saw was a mondo Lance cabover unit. The truck that way carrying it was a F550 four door dually or was it a F650...doesn't matter, both units were drool worthy :drool:

robert

11-14-2009, 04:13 PM

Oddly, I never go to this forum and this post caught my eye too. Having spent considerable time in my VW and being technically homeless too I'll toss out a few things in no particular order as regards to compact living. Obviously I'm talking about an even smaller space, but the principles are similar:

Being able to stand up and walk around is awesome, the VW can get get cramped very quickly even when the top is up but much more so when I can't open it (I stealth camp a lot).

I would go nuts if I had to live and work out of it- see above. When I'm not working and can be outside it's fine, but rainy days get old really quickly. I have a place I can park in the woods when I want to (a friend's hunting property) where I set up a tarp and have a picnic table to sit at and that helps a lot.

You have to remember to eat right- cooking in a small space is a pain, but quite doable when you learn how.

You have to keep it clean; this means not only cleaning up any food that might attract bugs, but any mess period. In small spaces, they feel even more cramped when things are out of place.

Stay on good terms with your friends and they'll let you store stuff at their place. I've got stuff stored at my folks, a friend's shed and another friend's farm/hunting place. One of these days I plan to buy a piece of property and build a small house and workshop/storage building and I know I'll want my tools and stuff.

Probably the most important thing I can tell you is that you have to get along with yourself. I find that most Americans (born and raised in SC here) can't stand to be by themselves- they always have at least a TV or radio on. I could expand on this, but I'm sure most here know what I'm getting at and most are probably fairly comfortable with being alone.

Kodachrome

11-15-2009, 06:23 PM

Robert,

While I agree that things can get cramped, in some ways, you have to be stronger than your challenges, overcome them and be of strong will. I spent some 5 weeks last fall living out of my Tacoma with nothing more than a Snugtop on it. If it were not for the moisture and dust coming through the bed, I would have been fine to a point.

There are astronauts who are training for the long trip to mars, the Apollo moon missions were cramped, you have to be strong. And yes, I know this is taking the aspect of living on the road well out of the realm of just recreation. I have spent countless stormy nights and days in tents on peaks in some 90 climbs in my life, I know how to be an astronaut on Earth.

I will have hundreds of days in my All Terrain Bobcat when my project is done at the end of next year, possibly close to 300 in total. So I am adapting my thinking, reading a lot of fantastic books, making friends, optimizing my cabin workflow to include hygiene, tool accountability and near subconscious routines. I luxuriate in it's efficiency, not in it's appointments.

The reason I could *not* live in a huge Earthroamer is not because it lacks room, but by it's sheer size and luxury of appointments, it makes a statement to me of finish over function. And I *really* don't like the statement it makes to the people I am going to encounter, some living in near poverty.

And I knew Hunter Thompson by the way, his widow Anita and I are still friends. I think he would have chosen the Earth Roamer in red if he were to have hit / live on the road…;-)

EuroJoe

11-16-2009, 03:32 PM

http://www.technomadia.com/

not sure if its been posted before

robert

11-16-2009, 05:01 PM

Robert,

<snip>

Rereading my post, I guess wasn't really clear on what I was trying to say- actually I'm not sure what I was trying to say. I have lived out of the VW as well as spent considerable time in my old Tacoma- I used to take a month off every year and just travel wherever I felt like as well as many shorter trips during the year to go climbing and fishing. It had an unknown brand shell on it and I had the back set up for my needs with a piece of carpeted plywood and a side cabinet down the left side. I made some similar trips in my old FJ-40 before I had the pickup- Arizona and back in a FJ is an adventure in itself. I haven't spent nearly as much time in the back of the current Tacoma instead staying in the VW. I've also spent considerable time camping (including off the back of my motorcycle) and backpacking as well as spending three months in a Eureka Timberline 2 man one summer monitoring peregrine falcons. Currently I'm on an oil rig on the way to the Gulf of Mexico from Singapore (gotta love Rignet)- it'll take about four months and we're only partially there right now. I'm not bragging, just saying I understand small spaces and can live in them just fine.

When I say I like being able to stand up and stretch out it's because I've spent considerable time in cramped quarters where I couldn't- it's a luxury I enjoy. I also wouldn't want to work in such as small space as the VW, I need to be able to get up and move around. I don't like taking my work home with me and I try to keep them separate- my off time is my time. That's a none issue for me since I work as a paramedic (or maybe that's why I'm picky about it I don't know), but the OP was talking about working out of the vehicle as well.

I'm not getting rid of my VW or my truck and I don't see me buying another house anytime soon, but as I get older I realize I would like a few more creature comforts; heat would be nice on cold nights and AC on hot muggy ones- currently I use a Mr Buddy heater that I only run in the morning to warm things up and at night before going to bed; for summer cooling I have a small battery powered fan. I have no desire to own a monster camper either- it doesn't fit in with my lifestyle, my ethics or the places I travel- and I'm just too damn cheap to ever spend that on a vehicle. With that in mind, I've actually been looking at the ATC and Four Wheel campers with the idea of possibly buying one for my Tacoma- I imagine for many of the same reasons you bought one.

I suppose what I was trying to say was yes, I could live in an EarthRoamer just fine if someone gave me one, but it wouldn't be my first choice. I was also making a point about needing enough space to do whatever it is you do. Another example- my brother lived in his 26' Airstream for a while, he's an independent draftsman so he needs room for his computer and to spread out architectural plans- his Airstream was fine for his needs but my truck or VW wouldn't work for him. Get what fits your lifestyle....

Just my two cents worth. :beer::beer:

dzzz

11-16-2009, 08:20 PM

The question may be "if you had $200K to spend on a vehicle you will use as home for several years, what would you buy?"

I would need to give that question a lot of thought. I don't believe an ER would have enough storage space for me.

JRhetts

11-16-2009, 09:27 PM

There seems to be a certain amount of tail chasing in the various responses to the original question. As an ER owner who has lived full-time in one for up to four months continuously, my answer is "Yes!! I could live in an ER for years on end -- assuming I could resupply at reasonable intervals. The ER space is just like a small sailboat in which many people have circumnavigated the world over a period of years."

BUT - my conclusion may not be your conclusion. Why not? You may have very different expectations or needs from me.

I can assure you that my wife and I can carry with us everything we need to live a comfortable life for extended periods, and we would have no objective trouble extending 4 months into 4 years. We simply CAN carry what we need (objectively require) along with a substantial amount of luxury or discretionary gear/stuff.

But our list may not be adequate for you and yours.

I think that is why there are so many and contradictory responses posted here. We all have different needs and expectations and one person's answer may not fit another at all well. Also, i suspect that the cost of the ER colors some people's answers, as in "I just can't justify/wrap my mind around paying that much money for a vehicle."

John

dzzz

11-16-2009, 10:05 PM

Yet $200K is reasonable for a boat, and its a starter home in most areas.

But the technical aspects of the question are worth exploring. I wanted so, so much to build a pickup based vehicle, but I couldn't get past the inefficient use of 24 feet. A transverse mounted engine and a cab that integrates with the living area are important features when trying to make the most of space.

etbadger

11-17-2009, 02:42 AM

My wife and I lived for a couple of years in a conversion van (Sportsmobile), with similar volume to an EarthRoamer. It certainly is doable, and quite a bit of fun if you adapt to a fairly different pace of life.

The biggest suggestion I could give would be to echo the earlier comment of renting a cheap RV of similar size for a month or two, and see what you use and what you miss. The big EarthRoamers are very nice, but have amenities we just wouldn't value to the extent of the cost. Conversely there are some features they do not offer that are very important to us. Our values are not those of anyone else, so I'm not sure there is much point to going into specifics, but that is what a rental will tell you for your particular situation.

And in the end, whatever you choose can be made to work, and will turn out not to be ideal in all ways. We have copious notes from our time and are in the process of re-working a lot of stuff for the next foray out into homelessness.

-Erik

spencyg

11-17-2009, 12:35 PM

We have copious notes from our time and are in the process of re-working a lot of stuff for the next foray out into homelessness.

-Erik

FINALLY! I have thorougly missed living vicariously through your blog! Of course this time you have to account for a 3rd member of the team...same Sportsmobile or an upgrade?

Spence

dzzz

11-17-2009, 12:59 PM

I remember Erik rebuilding his Sportsmobile. I suspect he will build?

We always talk about building in a F450/550. Maybe we should look at building on a E450 chassis. A "super sportsmobile".

henry2

02-13-2010, 08:55 PM

ok here something i found out after renting a class c for a while and liveing out of it.

1- it was easlyer to live on the job site than travel back and forth but there was a few problem like getting elec to the home but i just ran a long power cord over to the power and got it that way

1a-dumping of the rv holding tank was done on monday and fridays of the week when the guy would come out to the job site to take care of the port pottys units

1b-food had to be gotten at once a week and i stocked up on items i was low on and got then at the store. we had one of the guys wife who lived out there on the site with us borrow someone car and go to the store if we need something she would come and get a list of items from us if we really need something..see line 8 for this part of list

1c-extra propane bottle where kept at the site for changeing out when they ran out .

2-go with a name brand internet service ..i use a laptop and a usb air card with a booster unit to get internet service for personal web surfing at some of the places i worked at along with phone service.. i pay extra in my internet web payment plan for about 10.gb total and it work it to me for not to go over the standard 5.gb rule ..

3-tell the police that there is someone liveing on site to keep eye out for you along with not getting that knock on the door about why you are here talk ..

4-learn to order food like pizza dureing working hours and keep it in the motorhome for later

5-get a sat tv for it worth it wait in gold on the nights and weekends

6-get a good high end mattress to sleep on for the foam unit in the one i rent was not good in the long run ..i went out and bought a new mattress just to get a better night sleep in the home..

7-sweep the areas around the motorhome for nails and other like things that can make a tire go flat and have to be repaired..i had the labors sweep the area every time when i can on the job site to live ..we had a couple of the guys who had tailers liveing on the diff jobs sites we where on and we allways had the labors sweep out the area where we where going to park the units. we would buy them lunch to do that for use..

8- doing larndry was a bit of a pain in the but and drying cleaning was sometimes a problem but we would pay one of the guys wifes who had a washer and dryer in the house to do the larndry and drop off the some of the dry cleaning as need and pick it up and bring it out to us..one guy wife she became the go for it person around the job site for the whole month we where there ..her husband found out she made more money than he did for the whole month that she was there for around the job site doing odd jobs. ..she would come on the job site everyday that we where there to do things for us..she got feed also if we wanted something to eat from a place she was allways told to get something for her to in the order ..she would clean the guys motorhomes or tailers to make extras money also ..she would run to store for us .. we tried talking her and husband to come on the road with us but he said no ..she would worked out ok..

9-i rent a car to go places like the mall and not move the motorhome around much once i was at the job site ..plus it did make trips to the see the town poeple about the job site a lot easlyer than trying to take the motorhome down to them ..

10-it was a little fun at times for i wanted to go out on a date here and there and i found it was a little funny at times to bring a girl back to the job site to a motorhome and have her see a darken place and go we are going there question ..but a lot of time i would tell a girl that i was dateing i live in a motorhome on the job site and if spend the night know that up front ..

like i said i learned to live out of the motorhome and in the future be looking at a earthroamer unit for liveing out of as full time homes.. but i will get a good mattress in the over the bed sleeping area and a few extras to bring on the road with for my use at job sites..