onboard air.

[LUISJG]

I been debating between getting a co2 tank or a compresor,
then i came across this compressor and it says that it can run power tools,
,,what you think?
http://www.extremeoutback.com/index.cgi?pid=34

[erin]

That things is a monster. With a small tank, you should be able to run any tool at all with no loss of cfm. I know Scott runs one @ 4 cfm, and even that one can run some tools also.
I would say the only drawback to the larger one could possibly be size/weight, depending where you want to mount it.

[toyrunner95]

get a 12 volt, its better. you can transfer it to another rig if this one doenst work out, without having to change anything. jut re wire it.

i like my extreme air.

http://www.4by4connection.com/exsev12volai.html

they are expensive but they are a one time buy. like a winch.

[LUISJG]

I got the viair 480 system with tank,,worked preety well. and it was only 260 dllrs with tank

[jerdog53]

I have a York system installed in my LJ Ruby and about a 4 gallon tank up underneath that will run air tools.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q182/jerdog53/OBA010.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q182/jerdog53/OBA013.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q182/jerdog53/OBA00a.jpg

[adventureduo]

I been debating between getting a co2 tank or a compresor,
then i came across this compressor and it says that it can run power tools,
,,what you think?
http://www.extremeoutback.com/index.cgi?pid=34

Looks like a A/C unit converted. Why wouldnt you just put a York in?

I use a Powertank myself, but don't use that much air when im out on the trail.

[goodtimes]

Looks like a A/C unit converted. Why wouldnt you just put a York in?

I use a Powertank myself, but don't use that much air when im out on the trail.

Yup, looks like a converted Sanden compressor....

[asteffes]

Looks like a A/C unit converted. Why wouldnt you just put a York in?

I use a Powertank myself, but don't use that much air when im out on the trail.

So much use can one get out of a PowerTank when running air tools? I'm sure it depends greatly on the air consumption rate of the tool, but I would like a ballpark figure on how much use of an impact gun I could see out of the typical CO2 tank. Say, in terms of number of tire changes I could perform, or batches of pancake mix I could prepare with an air ratchet and whisk attachment. Any thoughts?

[Grim Reaper]

Saden. You can pick them up all day long at the junkyard for $25-35. With no modifications most people get 2 years before they eat themselves.....You can buy a lot of them before ever coming up to that $400 for the online one.

Tons of how to's online.

[asteffes]

In case anyone is also interested, EE has a PowerTank FAQ with info on air tool runtimes.

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/powertank/FAQ.htm

[crawler#976]

I have both systems - a 20 LB CO2 tank on the beater, and a ViAir 400P that goes in either Tacoma as needed.

The 20 Lb CO2 is fast on air ups, can run air tools, reseat beads, and has a fair capacity - it'll air up about 25 to 30 tires per tank (35/12.5-15 MT/R's from 8PSI to 24 PSI) Cost per tank is about $20.00 including tax. I average 3 tanks a year. The complete setup cost was roughly $280.0 for regulator, tank, bracket, large adjustable wrench, and hose/hose fittings. Storing the tank takes up a lot of room on the flatbed, and then there is the regulator and coiled hose in the tool box...it's always getting tangled in something.


The ViAir 400P is portable, comes in a storage bag that includes the coil hose and guage. It's not as fast as the CO2 system, but works very well for the tire sizes it used on (31/10.5-15 and 26/75-16 MT/R's). It can't run tools or reseat beads, but neither of the two Tacos sees the conditions that require tire pressures low enough to roll off a bead. If used to fill a 3 or 4 gallon tank, that would provide enough volume to reseat a bead. I really like it's portability, and have been taking it along in the beater to avoid the cost of the CO2 system. At my current use rate with three vehicles in OHV use, it would only take 2 years to recover the cost of the ViAir in CO2.

On a side note, I see a day when CO2 will be regulated as a green house gas - even for private use. Everytime I airdown the tires on the beater, I'm releasiing a few cubic feet of basicly pure CO2 into the atmosphere.

Anyway, I use both setups, and like the benifits of both.

[FortyMileDesert]

On a side note, I see a day when CO2 will be regulated as a green house gas - even for private use. Everytime I airdown the tires on the beater, I'm releasiing a few cubic feet of basicly pure CO2 into the atmosphere.


I doubt that - - - :

You breathing release several cubic feet of CO2 per minute..
Your truck idling releases close to 100 cubic feet per minute..
Your truck running down the freeway releases several hundred cubic feet per minute..
The leaves rotting on your lawn in the fall release CO2....
The cut grass after mowing your lawn is releasing CO2......
99% of all CO2 is absorbed into the oceans.................
- - - The only problem is that humans burning fossil fuels emit CO2 a fraction of a percent faster than the oceans can absorb it.

[RoundOut]

batches of pancake mix I could prepare with an air ratchet and whisk attachment.You have one of those, too? Awesome!:chef:

[crawler#976]

I doubt that - - - :

You breathing release several cubic feet of CO2 per minute..
Your truck idling releases close to 100 cubic feet per minute..
Your truck running down the freeway releases several hundred cubic feet per minute..
The leaves rotting on your lawn in the fall release CO2....
The cut grass after mowing your lawn is releasing CO2......
99% of all CO2 is absorbed into the oceans.................
- - - The only problem is that humans burning fossil fuels emit CO2 a fraction of a percent faster than the oceans can absorb it.

ahhh, but you're forgetting the intense push to combat global warming...and CO2 is the primary greenhouse gas mentioned by the media.

[FortyMileDesert]

I'm just putting things in perspective:

Your body is exhaling as much CO2 as the tires are while you are airing down.

You air down the tire for 1 minute each x 4 = 4 minutes of exhaled CO2.
You breath all day long 24 hours x 60 minutes = 1440 minutes of exhaled CO2.

Best cure for CO2 reduction = Eliminate about 5,000,000,000 people (of the 6,000,000,000 that inhabit the planet). That would reduce the CO2 that they exhale plus all of the stuff that they operate (vehicles, home heat/air conditioning/lighting, industrial power, etc) by about 83%. The oceans would have no problem getting the atmosphere back to normal. In fact, if you were to turn everything off for about 3 months the atmosphere would be back to normal.

Frying one egg on a propane stove would most likely equal all the times that you will ever air down your tires.

The power to operate an air compressor (either one attached to the trucks engine or to charge the battery to operate the 12v portable one) will most likely create more CO2 than the airing down released....

- - - - - - - - -

I'm totally in agreement that mans' presence on earth is harming the atmosphere. We've just got to put our efforts towards the things that are most likely going to fix it rather than miniscule details that hardly matter.

We could better fix things by:
Living in smaller houses -
Driving vehicles with smaller engines -
Turn off the lights and appliances that we're not using -
Get rid of street lights -
Turn off Las Vegas -
Live closer to work -
Stop paving everything -
Consume a lot less stuff - - -

Does everyone really need three cell phones, four cars with 300 hp engines, three tv sets, two computers, a 3000 sq foot house, a gasoline lawn mower, a gasoline trimmer, a boat with a 200 hp engine, a jetski, a snowmobile, a quad, an expedition vehicle that weighs in at 9000 pounds so that you don't have to sleep on the ground on a tarp?

[FJ Cruiser]

I have a 10lb Power Tank and I like the portability of it and the fact I don't have to wire the rig. So far it's only been used to air up tires, but I like the idea I can reseat a bead or run air tools if I need to.

From their site:
Q: “Can I run air tools off of a Power TankTM? Is CO2 safe for my tools?”
A: Yes. There is no need to worry about running air tools with CO2. Just maintain your air tools to the manufacturers’ recommendations with proper air tool oil and run your tools at the proper pressures. It's perfect for impact wrenches and nail guns. CO2 is even dry enough to push automotive paint out of a gun. You’ll want a good quality QR coupler for your hose like our Air Lock Autos or our Tomco Super Couplers. And don’t skimp on the quality of your air tools. Cheap air tools use up more air and do less work.
http://www.powertank.com/faqs#question24