Shower Shelter

[Kermit]

Sometimes there is never a good place to hang my shower shelter.

So I made one.

I used 2 half inch square stock tack welded together, it just happens to fit perfectly into my Thule rack. Then I drilled a small hole on the end cap so a bicycle shifter cable slips through, then used epoxy to affix the cable to the 1/2" stock. So, when I pull off the endcap the rod will pull out.

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2617613000093498191TUltxf

[cruiseroutfit]

:cool:

What curtain are you using? Custom?

[Kermit]

It came with my solar shower, but, I am now using a stainless steel, bug sprayer can, with a shower head from Zodi. Zodi sells their Extreme Shower for $120. I built mine for $40. $30 for the can and Zodi sells the shower head for $10.

$120 for this!?>>>> http://www.zodi.com/web-content/Consumer/zodiextremeshower.html All it is a bug sprayer with a showerhead. I use my campstove to heat up the water, or lay it in the sun.

I have seen the shelter sold seperately. Under $30.

I don't want to have to worry about batteries or pumps, they just add weight and take up space.

[Kermit]

Well, the Zodi shower head came apart in my hands...I tend to break things. (whoops!)

So I made it heavy duty, added a simple ball valve and garden hose "shower head". I added the extra valve, because the valve on the garden attachment wouldn't hold the pressure.

Works even better now.

http://community.webshots.com/slideshow?ID=556061972&key=pcVWch

[cruiseroutfit]

Cool, I will keep my eyes peeled for a curain like that. Cabela's, etc have the stand-alone style enclosures, but I'm looking for something I can hook onto my rollcage or hardtop.

For the shower I'm using a Helton Heat Exchanger setup:
http://www.cruiseroutfitters.com/content_images/photogallery/Skyline_Swell_2006/Slyline_Swell%20(10).jpg

:cool:

[Kermit]

Have you tried an Army Surplus store? We have one here that sells camping equipment too. I was in there yesterday and saw a shelter for $30.

I was going to go the heat exchanger route...maybe in the future...

[whitethaiger]

My little 6V shower pump just gave up, so I am looking for a new shower solution. I've heard good things about the Zodi and it seems to be a simple setup, i.e., not many parts to fail.
Do you have any info on what tank/parts you used for your home build version?


It came with my solar shower, but, I am now using a stainless steel, bug sprayer can, with a shower head from Zodi. Zodi sells their Extreme Shower for $120. I built mine for $40. $30 for the can and Zodi sells the shower head for $10.

$120 for this!?>>>> http://www.zodi.com/web-content/Consumer/zodiextremeshower.html All it is a bug sprayer with a showerhead. I use my campstove to heat up the water, or lay it in the sun.

I have seen the shelter sold seperately. Under $20.

I don't want to have to worry about batteries or pumps, they just add weight and take up space.

[Kermit]

You can buy everything at a hardware store. I already had a camp stove. I can get 3-4 minutes with the current shower head, I may be able to up the time, with a lower flow one.

Stainless Pump sprayer: $30

What is below is what I did to replace the broken Zodi showerhead.

High pressure 3/8" I.D. hose: 8' @ $0.60 a foot

Ball valve: $2.50

Brass garden hose adapter to 3/8" hose: $1.49

Shower head (of your choice) mine was: $3.99

Hose clamps: $3-4.00 (I bought a box of them)

Total $46.78

AZ Tax $3.78

Grand total $50.56

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If you look at the Zodi and mine, they are awfully close.

[whitethaiger]

Kermit, thanks for the quick response.

I think I'll look into this little project right this weekend.

[Kermit]

Hey, no problem.

Once I had all of the parts it only took 10 minutes (if that) to plumb everything together.

You might be able to use the hose the sprayer came with, I wanted a longer one, so that is why I went the route I did.

Now, if you are really motivated you could plumb in a fitting for an airline from your onboard air compressor (which I am sure you have one ;) ) so you wouldn't have to "hand pump" it... :)

[whitethaiger]

...
Now, if you are really motivated you could plumb in a fitting for an airline from your onboard air compressor (which I am sure you have one ;) ) so you wouldn't have to "hand pump" it... :)

Nah, I like the idea of keeping things simple. So I'll see first how bad that hand pumping is.

How long have you had your's, i.e., how often have you used/heated it?

[Kermit]

I just made it last weekend.

It has bean heated 5 times so far, to boiling once. I would also pressurize it after heating.

I have to pump it twice for one shower, testing at home before I use it in the field. Works so much better than my solar, plus I am guaranteed I will have hot water. I have taken enough cold showers in the past to be well over that. :)

Oh, one more thing, mine has a metal siphon tube, I noticed some had plastic siphons, which I would fear those would melt when heating on the stove.

[whitethaiger]

I just made it last weekend.

It has bean heated 5 times so far, to boiling once. I would also pressurize it after heating.

I have to pump it twice for one shower, testing at home before I use it in the field. Works so much better than my solar, plus I am guaranteed I will have hot water. I have taken enough cold showers in the past to be well over that. :)

Oh, one more thing, mine has a metal siphon tube, I noticed some had plastic siphons, which I would fear those would melt when heating on the stove.
Looks like I got the same brand tank as yours, only mine was $39 (CA premium?) and the tube siphon tube is plastic. I'm not sure I am too concerned about the plactic part since I don't intent to take too many showers with boiling water. If it becomes a problem I may have to look into mods:rolleyes:

For the first tests (including a first field test) I'll be using the hose and shower head from our 6V shower. The shower has a flow regulator. It does leak when in the closed position, so I may need to add a valve eventually.

From a couple of pumping tests just performed I also think I'll have to pressurize it twice, particularly if I want to stand up and the tank is on the ground. Takes a lot of pressure to pump water up to 7ft:p

My wife is very excited about this. It should make for more convenient warm showers than our existing setup.

Now where can I get one of those little stick on thermometers? I noticed the Zodi I was shown had a little thermometer glued to the side.

[kcowyo]

Takes a lot of pressure to pump water up to 7ft:p


:xxrotflma

Man, you weren't kidding when you said you were "going to look into a shower next weekend." Nice Uwe - so how many gallons do those tanks hold?

Kermit - roughly how long does it take to heat up a full container? Are you heating the water in the container on a stove or are you heating the water in smaller pots and transfering it to the can?

This is such a simple solution for showering that I may have to seriously look into this myself...

[Ursidae69]

Now where can I get one of those little stick on thermometers? I noticed the Zodi I was shown had a little thermometer glued to the side.

I wonder if you could use a terrarium thermomter (http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=817) commonly used in the reptile world.

Where did you pick up your tank Uwe? I have not looked yet at the home improvement stores, I need to do that. Excellent thread Kermit. :victory:

[Mlachica]

Now where can I get one of those little stick on thermometers? I noticed the Zodi I was shown had a little thermometer glued to the side.

They have them for fish tanks as well. You can probably find one at wal-mart or a pet/fish store.

I'm also interested in where you guys bought them...

[whitethaiger]

....
Man, you weren't kidding when you said you were "going to look into a shower next weekend." Nice Uwe - so how many gallons do those tanks hold?
....

To some extend I was pushed to do it. My favorite travel companion was really excited about the idea :)

Tank holds 2 gallons.


Chuck, Mlachica

Good idea on that thermometer!

I picked my tank up at Home Depot. The local Ace and Lowe's didn't have any stainless steel tanks.

Heating the tank: I'll have to run some stove experiments, maybe after I get a thermometer. I'm may even do a field test next weekend.
For a little test right now I filled the tank with 59F water and left it in the sun (ambient temp upper 70's ) for 2h from 10 to 12. The water temp rose to 79F. This is for a shiny tank, a black tank would certainly do even better.

[Kermit]

Someone beat me to the aquarium thermometer.
I boiled it just for a test, or you could make two gallons of tea, if you really wanted to... :p

I used my tap water which measured at 65F, which reached 102F in exactly 10 minutes at 2500' above sea level, heated in the sprayer can with two gallons of water. (results may vary) If you have one of those jet stoves it would be even faster. I always go by touch than by a thermometer, that's the way I do it at home, anyway. :) And remember kids water's boiling point is lower the higher the elevation.

http://thumb11.webshots.net/t/58/158/9/51/89/2995951890093498191xVuoAG_th.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2995951890093498191xVuoAG) http://thumb11.webshots.net/t/57/457/7/97/40/2392797400093498191xmdNUU_th.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2392797400093498191xmdNUU)

You could always paint the can black, of course you would loose the "pretty" shiney stainless.

My shower head leak slightly too, that's why I put the extra ball valve on there. No leaks now. I put the metal siphon tube in mine, just so you know.

[Kermit]

I figured I would bump this thread up.

I finally got to use my shower I made out of bug sprayer and some garden hose parts for roughly $50.

It work beautifully. I learned if I just crack open the main valve, it really conserves water. Enough to get 2-3 showers out of one filling.

I had to work a dirt bike race this past weekend, so I was quite filthy at the end of the day, from trail marking and being a sweep rider. I can't begin to tell you good a hot shower feels after those days. :D

[Colorado Ron]

Thought Id throw this setup on just for a change. Super simple. Basic shower setup, plugged into cig lighter. Heated water into collapsable bucket. Flip the switch and walla, hot shower. Setup in about 30sec.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/447804174_0f610bc116.jpg

[DaktariEd]

This is actually a photo from elcoyote, but I did the same thing: swapped the supplied el cheapo shower head on the Zodi unit for a shower head from Lowe's. Cost: about $15. One good pumping usually suffices for a shower....two is a bit nicer.
:sombrero:

[MHead]

Thanks to this site for the bug sprayer shower idea.

I've also built my own. Seems the commercial version is too expensive for the value. I obtained the bug sprayer from Northern Tool

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200314138_200314138

It's a 2.5 gallon stainless sprayer. Unfortunately it was $54. I found some a little less costly but I've had good experience with Northern Tool.

Pic 1: The sprayer had a plastic internal tube that reached from the outlet to the bottom. Someone mentioned a concern with this and heating. If you look at the Northern Tool picture you'll see that the sprayer wand is brass. I was able to pull out the plastic, cut the brass tube from the wand, insert this brass tube into the sprayer replacing the plastic, and solder into place. On top I soldered a normal brass hose fitting obtained from the local hardware store. A fitting at this point is nice as will be explained subsequently. Replacement of the plastic tube leaves a quite strong point for the fitting.

Pic 2: I often have to supply 4 showers. It is really nice to do this quickly to get out of camp in the morning. I tried to minimize heating time with the stove shown. This also obtained from Northern Tool.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_15490_15490
This stove puts out a huge amount of heat and the burner diameter matches the bug sprayer diameter very well. Unfortunately it is something of a trick to get it to work from the small 1 LB propane bottles but that's another story. Stove is somewhat heavy but packs nicely into my rig. My only complaint is that it is quite wind sensitive. I used my water bottles as a block but I'll have to bring some light metal panels next trip. I fill sprayer with roughly 1.5 gal which gives a complete shower to a female. I can shower on much less. Heat up time is a few minutes.

If a cap is carried for the connection then the bug sprayer can be completely sealed and can be filled with water and used as additional water storage until the first shower is supplied.

Pic 3: A Paha Que shower tent purchased directly from them (best price - they had a sale)
http://www.pahaque.com/products-tepee.shtml
Overall this is a really good tent and good value for the $. I got the aluminum poles. There's a setup that is about as involved as setting up a normal tent. Don't be fooled by their site video! I was impressed by this tent overall since it seems they've actually used their own product! There are a lot of subtile good things about the design. All I changed is to add external bungees around the stuff sack (they left it big so the tent is easily placed inside but once zipped it is too flooppy) and to add caribieners (SP?) at the points where their design intends that you insert the poles thru loops (a pain). You can see this in pic 4 at the point where the open zipper vents come together in the corner.

Pic 4: The shower head is made from a bent piece of stainless tubing and is clipped to a top loop with caribieners. The plastic tube is just too flexable for this operation and it is really nice to have the shower head hang above and away from the tube. Also clipping allows easy disconnection. The drill is to wet down quickly, soap and scrub with water off, then use the remaining water as a rinse. During rinse it is efficient to unclip the head and apply water directly to soapy areas. A series of several clips allow adjustment of the shower head height for various height persons. All this is about saving water and the propane it takes to heat it. I can carry only a total of 14 gal.

Pic 5: Here's a close up of the head. All constructed with local hardware store parts. Notice I've applied epoxy over most of the sprinkler holes. This spreads out a very small flow rate for better rinsing. I'm tempted to epoxy in every other hole in the perimeter shown. There's a valve located at the head which is in a convenient location to meter and shut off flow.

Pic 6: This is the lower part of the head assy, shown with the sprayer removed. It is necessary to disconnect the head assy tube from the sprayer when heating to prevent melting the plastic tube. This connection allows the head to remain hooked in the shower while only the tank is removed for refilling and heating for next shower. Picture also shows a dirt floor. The shower tent is supplied with a floor but it gets wet and muddy so I don't use it. I have a pair of cheap 'flip-flop' shoes that I pack with the shower. We just wear these when showering.

All in all, the shower is probably a little more complex than I'd like. The sprayer and head are OK but the tent is a little over the top. I like Kermit's idea for it's simplicity. Without some sort of enclosure outdoor showering just isn't pleasant if there is the slightest breeze so I have to do something. Kermit's design makes me think of those window shades that people sometimes put up inside their front car window. These have a flexible ring that can be squished. Maybe a completely cylinderical shroud terminated by one of these flexible rods at the top and then suspended from my canopy. It could all roll up for storage and could simply be shaken out into shape for use...

[Kermit]

Without some sort of enclosure outdoor showering just isn't pleasant if there is the slightest breeze...


Even with the enclosure...it was a wee bit brisk when the outside temperature was 50 degrees.

I did take one shower in the Wildernest with the enclosure so everything wouldn't get wet, stood the lid of my chuck box, so the floor of the truck wouldn't get wet either. I was kind of a hassle, but, a little warmer.

Cabellas had a neat enclosure, not unlike those 5 second tents. Just throw it up in the air, and wha-la...it is open.

I lost my enclosure holder in the Thule rack trick. Since with the Wildernest, I lost the proper height, when the lid is open.

[Bella PSD]

Trying to get the list of parts together. Having a hard time finding a 2 gal SS tank local. Tried Home Depot, Lowes, Tractor Supply and Ace with no luck. Just for fun I did try the 2.5 gal plastic tank I had at home and it worked great as long as I do not heat the water with the plastic tank.

Was that Stainless Pump sprayer for $30 a 1 gal or 2 gal??

Louie


You can buy everything at a hardware store. I already had a camp stove. I can get 3-4 minutes with the current shower head, I may be able to up the time, with a lower flow one.

Stainless Pump sprayer: $30

What is below is what I did to replace the broken Zodi showerhead.

High pressure 3/8" I.D. hose: 8' @ $0.60 a foot

Ball valve: $2.50

Brass garden hose adapter to 3/8" hose: $1.49

Shower head (of your choice) mine was: $3.99

Hose clamps: $3-4.00 (I bought a box of them)

Total $46.78

AZ Tax $3.78

Grand total $50.56

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If you look at the Zodi and mine, they are awfully close.

[Steve Curren]

Try ACE.. :sunny:

[Kermit]

Try ACE.. :sunny:

X2

2 gallon

[adventureduo]

So here's something that i've wondered about after reading about shower setups. How do you guys address tromping around in the mud/water/dirt while taking a shower? Do you guys put a matt down or something? Where shoes? Im kind of confused about that part.

[adventureduo]

Thought Id throw this setup on just for a change. Super simple. Basic shower setup, plugged into cig lighter. Heated water into collapsable bucket. Flip the switch and walla, hot shower. Setup in about 30sec.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/447804174_0f610bc116.jpg

Where can you get these shower cigarette plug heads? That is perfect!

EDIT: Is that the turbo shower? I can only find them on australian websites..?

[adventureduo]

Has anyone ever tried one of these????

http://www.bigkahunashowers.com/

[Steve Curren]

As for keeping feet out of the mud, I have a neighbor who made me what amounts to wooden door mats. Pieces of redwood strips 1x3 that are 30" long x 15" wide, I have two of them and they are easy to store and keep you off the ground. I prefer that over the standard plastic tarp that comes with the shower shelter.

[94-RUNNER]

So here's something that i've wondered about after reading about shower setups. How do you guys address tromping around in the mud/water/dirt while taking a shower? Do you guys put a matt down or something? Where shoes? Im kind of confused about that part.


I have one of these and it works really good. I very quickly got tired of muddy feet after the clean up. Hope this helps !

......Tucker

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0014094511007a&navCount=1&podId=0014094&parentId=cat20097&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat20075-cat20097&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20097&hasJS=true

[kcowyo]

How do you guys address tromping around in the mud/water/dirt while taking a shower? Do you guys put a matt down or something? Where shoes? Im kind of confused about that part.

I know Chris/BajaTaco has suggested before that he uses his Husky floor mat to stand on. I like that idea. I carry an old rubber floormat that I use to wipe my feet on when entering the camper so I'll probably use that to stand on. I also usually carry a milk crate for firewood, I suppose one could turn that over and stand on it.

I just purchased a Zodi Extreme from a fellow member here. Looking forward to trying it out soon but I haven't come up with a shelter solution yet. I'd like to shower in the camper if I can figure out a way to collect the water. Maybe line the milk crate with a trash bag and stand in it...?

When I used articulate's shower on a trip last year, I just wore my sandals. With a limited amount of water, you kind of have to shower quickly, so it's not like a huge mud puddle forms at your feet.

[Kermit]

Has anyone ever tried one of these????

http://www.bigkahunashowers.com/

This guy is awful happy about that shower.

http://www.bigkahunashowers.com/images/marina.jpg


Muddy feet...I usually just wear my flip flops, or find some rocks to set under the shower. An old floor mat sounds like the trick too.


KC, I was thinking the same thing about showering the camper, which I have, I used the top of the chuck box. It was kind of a pain so the next ones I did outside.

You use one of those collapsable water containers.

Why are guys nuts about gadgets?

[Tucson T4R]

I have one of these and it works really good. I very quickly got tired of muddy feet after the clean up. Hope this helps !

......Tucker

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0014094511007a&navCount=1&podId=0014094&parentId=cat20097&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat20075-cat20097&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20097&hasJS=true



X2 This is exactly what I am using too.

[Bella PSD]

Try ACE.. :sunny:

Ace says $56 and $64 for the 2 gal SS tank? Not $30 for me?? Home Depot use to carry them but not anymore.
Louie

[Kermit]

Ace says $56 and $64 for the 2 gal SS tank? Not $30 for me?? Home Depot use to carry them but not anymore.
Louie
I think I got mine at Home Depot, it may of been a close out.

[xtatik]

First post, and Hello!
I bought the Zodi single burner (piezo start) a while back and soon tired of replacing batteries. So, I picked up a "Rule" 12V bilge/bait tank pump at West Marine. I modded it with an extended cord (20') and plug in at the rear receptacle of my truck. It sets up as fast as a stove and works great. It still packs into the original red case/basin, approx 12" cube.

[DaktariEd]

I also usually carry a milk crate for firewood, I suppose one could turn that over and stand on it.

I wouldn't recommend that...too high...and imagine slipping off and falling inside the shelter....let's not go there...:eek:

[Bella PSD]

I think I got mine at Home Depot, it may of been a close out.

I think that's it on the price. My Home Depot use to carry them. Must have closed them out cheap and now they are gone! I guess back to ACE, but is it still cost effective at $60 just for the tank??

Louie

[Kermit]

How much is the Zodi...$120, with a cheap shower head.

Have you tried eBay or craigslist?

I think you can get the additional parts for $20-30....still can save 20-30 dollars. Takes only 5 minutes to assemble.

Still cheaper.

High pressure 3/8" I.D. hose: 8' @ $0.60 a foot

Ball valve: $2.50

Brass garden hose adapter to 3/8" hose: $1.49

Shower head (of your choice) mine was: $3.99

Hose clamps: $3-4.00 (I bought a box of them)

[Bella PSD]

I checked craigslist BUT decided against used tanks because of the chemicals that could have been in them. So it's gonna be new.
I think you are right....Even if I get a tank for $60, and the rest for $20, I will have a way better shower head and a shut off valve too. AND still save $40. I need to see if ACE can order one in for me?? They show it on the web site??


Louie

[Kermit]

Colorado Ron's setup seems super cheap too.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/447804174_0f610bc116.jpg

[Willman]

Just picked this up at Cabelas!!!!! I love living in Utah...Cabelas is just about 15 minutes from my house!!! I walked into their "bargin alley"....Look what i found...a used PETT privacy tent!!! SCORE!!!! Every thing looked great....even opened it up right in the store!!!!...Got it for $50 baby!!!!!

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0009548514869a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=toylet&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=toylet&noImage=0

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/PUP--PETT.jpg

Now time to fab up one of these cool shower tanks!!!!!

:jumping:

[kcowyo]

Nice find Nic!

Plus you helped me out. I followed your link and found these on sale for $50 (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat20087-cat20097&id=0032659590796a&navCount=51&podId=0032659&parentId=cat20097&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20097&hasJS=true). I dug out the $50 gift card from Cabelas that someone gave me last Xmas and ordered one up. That solves my shower shelter solution and for only $8.95 in shipping costs. Nice!

I got so excited by that deal, that I dropped another $20 for this new collapsible camp toilet (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat20087-cat20097&id=0043262517641a&navCount=53&podId=0043262&parentId=cat20097&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20097&hasJS=true). I never liked the 3 legged camp-toilet offerings but this one looks to be a bit more sturdy. Of course your homemade bumper-dumper looks to be the sturdiest of all. ;)

The Zodi shower (which I bought from an ExPo member for $60 - Score!) privacy tent and camp toilet were all purchased primarily for my younger and more feminine passengers. However, I'm sure to be spoiled by them as well. Just under $100 for a shower, tent & toilet is money well spent IMO.

Thanks for sharing your good fortune. I wouldn't have seen those privacy tents or even remembered my gift card if you hadn't mentioned your find. I need to get down to Lehi and check out the Cabelas store there.

It was good talking to you today too. Looking forward to meeting up soon. Thanks again! :beer:

[Bergger]

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/59/07/96/i590796sq01.jpg

I think you'll like this shelter Kcowyo. I got one last year from Sportmans Warehouse. They sell them for $39. It's very lite weight and sets up quickly. If it's windy use the sand bags that it comes with. It took me a couple of tries to figure out how to fold the thing up but once you do it's quick and easy.

[Willman]

Nice find Nic!

Plus you helped me out. I followed your link and found these on sale for $50 (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat20087-cat20097&id=0032659590796a&navCount=51&podId=0032659&parentId=cat20097&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20097&hasJS=true). I dug out the $50 gift card from Cabelas that someone gave me last Xmas and ordered one up. That solves my shower shelter solution and for only $8.95 in shipping costs. Nice!

I got so excited by that deal, that I dropped another $20 for this new collapsible camp toilet (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat20087-cat20097&id=0043262517641a&navCount=53&podId=0043262&parentId=cat20097&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20097&hasJS=true). I never liked the 3 legged camp-toilet offerings but this one looks to be a bit more sturdy. Of course your homemade bumper-dumper looks to be the sturdiest of all. ;)

The Zodi shower (which I bought from an ExPo member for $60 - Score!) privacy tent and camp toilet were all purchased primarily for my younger and more feminine passengers. However, I'm sure to be spoiled by them as well. Just under $100 for a shower, tent & toilet is money well spent IMO.

Thanks for sharing your good fortune. I wouldn't have seen those privacy tents or even remembered my gift card if you hadn't mentioned your find. I need to get down to Lehi and check out the Cabelas store there.

It was good talking to you today too. Looking forward to meeting up soon. Thanks again! :beer:


Right on!!! :victory:

Thanks for the call! Good luck with you traction cluck mod!!

Happy to help!!!! KC..the outback looked very nice....if i didn't find the PETT system...That outback would have done me great!!!! Let me know when you down in these neck of the woods so we can check out Cabelas!!

Now i need to fab up one of these cool shower pump kits!!!

:jumping:

[kcowyo]

If it's windy use the sand bags that it comes with. It took me a couple of tries to figure out how to fold the thing up but once you do it's quick and easy.

I've had a little experience with privacy tents that double as a kite (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2391)....

I read a couple of reviews of the Outback Porta-Privy last night. Seems like most folks like it but everyone agrees you practically need an engineering degree from MIT to figure out how to fold it back up. Glad to hear another first person positive review.

Thanks!! :1888fbbd:

[Bergger]

I've had a little experience with privacy tents that double as a kite (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2391)....

I read a couple of reviews of the Outback Porta-Privy last night. Seems like most folks like it but everyone agrees you practically need an engineering degree from MIT to figure out how to fold it back up. Glad to hear another first person positive review.

Thanks!! :1888fbbd:

The key is how you twist it when folding it up. There's probably no way I could explain it since I usually have to relearn how to do it if I don't use it for a few months! I just really like how compact it is and the way it just pops open for use. For $39 I thinks its a great deal.

[Willman]

I checked craigslist BUT decided against used tanks because of the chemicals that could have been in them. So it's gonna be new.
I think you are right....Even if I get a tank for $60, and the rest for $20, I will have a way better shower head and a shut off valve too. AND still save $40. I need to see if ACE can order one in for me?? They show it on the web site??


Louie

Went to my local ACE...Didn't have the SS sprayer..Or did their website (http://www.acehardware.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=1260209&cp=2568444.2598679)....But they did have it in their book....

Part #71376 SS pump can
$57.99 and it has to be special ordered....The guy said it will take a few days to come in...

ACE also sells a 1 Gal little guy ($34.99) that is steel....

Does it have to be SS...or can i get a steel one????

Is it due to the paint on the can????...I wonder if you stripped it off and used a 1500 degree paint would work???? I guess if you think about it and all the time and $$$ you put into messing around with the steel can...you could have got the SS and been done!

What do you guys think??

:ylsmoke:

[MountainBiker]

Went to my local ACE...Didn't have the SS sprayer..Or did their website (http://www.acehardware.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=1260209&cp=2568444.2598679)....But they did have it in their book....

Part #71376 SS pump can
$57.99 and it has to be special ordered....The guy said it will take a few days to come in...
Google found a picture of it:
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/html/product71376.htm

[Bella PSD]

I was told the same thing at my ACE. I did not order it yet. E bay has them for 39.95 plus $10 shipping. The seller said he had 200 plus of them. It is a 2.5 gal Hudson SS sprayer, I think made by LadyBug?? Found it agian.....LINK... http://cgi.ebay.com/Hudson-Stainless-Steel-Sprayer-2-gal-Pro_W0QQitemZ270117425318QQihZ017QQcategoryZ519QQr dZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

CHAPIN 3134A is the ACE sprayer. Its on E Bay as well. Buy it now for $50 plus 16 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/CHAPIN-3134A-Stainless-Steel-Sprayer-2-Gallon_W0QQitemZ140112976926QQihZ004QQcategoryZ318 6QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

And SAMS has a Shower Shelter for 39.95 and it has a solar shower with it. Not sure how good it is. Just walked by it the other day in SAMS. It was tall, over 6.5 feet and had a large foot print.

Update.....Just called SAMS and they say the Shower Shelter is a canceled item. they told me the store only has about 30 of them as of 4/15. I guess I will get one and try it out?? I guess I will get there folding kitchen too.


Louie

[Willman]

Google found a picture of it:
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/html/product71376.htm


Right on!!! Thanks for bird dog this up!

What about steel VS. SS???

:ylsmoke:

[cruiseroutfit]

Just picked this up at Cabelas!!!!! I love living in Utah...Cabelas is just about 15 minutes from my house!!! I walked into their "bargin alley"....Look what i found...a used PETT privacy tent!!! SCORE!!!! Every thing looked great....even opened it up right in the store!!!!...Got it for $50 baby!!!!!...

Provo is not really considered Utah :shakin: And Cabelas is 20 minutes from here :D

I'de love to check out your PETT setup one of these days, I bought a different portable shower shelter at Sportsmans Wharehouse (another great Utah store :cool:). Unfortunately I havn't had the chance even used it... we just shower in our swim trunks and change in the tent. It is the Outback Porta Privy that opens itself after you pull it out of the bag, we pulled one out at the store... there wasn't a single employee that could show us how to put it back in the bag. I'm going to have my wife film me taking it out so I can watch in slow motion... :D

[Kermit]

What about steel VS. SS???

:ylsmoke:

SS, don't have to worry about it rusting.

Say... if you let it sit in the garage, with a little water left in it.

I would assume the paint would start to peel after some heating cycles. Maybe powder coat it...then again...we are trying to stay somewhat on the cheap side.

[kcowyo]

It is the Outback Porta Privy that opens itself after you pull it out of the bag, we pulled one out at the store... there wasn't a single employee that could show us how to put it back in the bag. I'm going to have my wife film me taking it out so I can watch in slow motion... :D

I just got my Outback Porta Privy in the other day. I think it's going to be great for camp as a shower and toilet shelter.

I spent 30 minutes the first night after I opened it, trying to fold it back up to put it away. Then my neighbor came over and he tried for awhile.... He looked like he was trying to wrestle a greased pig.

So it's still standing, half-folded up, in the corner of my living room. But it looks really good....:smilies27

[cruiseroutfit]

...So it's still standing, half-folded up, in the corner of my living room. But it looks really good....:smilies27

Exactly why I have procrastinated using mine to date :D

Someone needs to offer a "Privy to putting it away" DVD!

[Desertdude]

Exactly why I have procrastinated using mine to date :D

Someone needs to offer a "Privy to putting it away" DVD!



hmmmmmm......


I know of only one person who can do it blindfolded - Norcal Doug :bigbossHL:

[tdesanto]

Exactly why I have procrastinated using mine to date :D

Someone needs to offer a "Privy to putting it away" DVD!

This is actually a nice shelter. It sets up so quickly. The only drawback is that it can't support one of the hang-a-42lb-bag type showers.

Collapsing it can be a bit tricky until you get the hang of it.

Here's how I do it (I'll try to explain as best I can):

1. While it's still free standing, you need to pull one of the corners towards another corner until they pop together and the sides are flat against each other (essentially it's now 2-dimensional).

2. You should now be able to fold it inwards so that all 4 sides are touching--it should now look just like one side (all the other sides are behind the side you're looking at).

3. With it still standing (narrow part at the top and wide/base at the bottom), put each hand on their respective side towards the top.

4. Start pulling the top down towards the ground so that the body of the shelter starts to bow out away from you. The base should stay put by your feet. Basically you want to make an arc out of it. Pull down until about 1/2 way towards the ground.

5. Now comes the tricky part: start crossing your hands. I normally pull my right hand over my left. The shelter will start to curl up into circles.

6. Keep pulling down towards the ground and crossing your hands. You should see the frame curling into large circles the same size as the bag it came in.

7. Now you should be at the ground and should be able to fold in the curls you made with each hand into the base, which should be curled into 2 circles as well.

8. I believe this makes 4 circles folded into each other. You can adjust the diameter of each circle so that they're all the same size. This will help with fitting it into the bag.

9. Place it in the bag and start to zip it closed. The bag fits rather tightly, so zipping can be difficult. I stand it up on its edge and press against the frame as I pull the zipper shut. This frees up the tension against the zipper and allows it to closer more easily.

I certianly hope this helps.

Let me know if anyone has any questions.

[kcowyo]

I somehow managed to get it folded back up yesterday. Then I opened it back up and got it closed up again on the second try.

The "secret" is definitely in the twisting as your folding top to bottom. It's really not all that different that one of those goofy sun shades for your windshield, just a lot bigger. It was superMom, on her big day yesterday, that pointed out it's similar to the kids SpongeBob play tent in the playroom. That said, I was drenched in sweat the first time I got it back in the bag.

I'm wondering after wrestling this thing on my carpeted living room floor, how I'll get it closed back up when camping and not tear it up on rocks and dirt on the ground.....:confused:

Nic, I don't know about steel vs. stainless for the shower can. It seems for the effort in chasing down the parts for a do-it-yourselfer, it might be worth just ponying up the bucks for the Zodi kit, complete with all of the extras - stove stand, carrying bag, thermometer, on/off switch, etc.

[Willman]

SS, don't have to worry about it rusting.

Say... if you let it sit in the garage, with a little water left in it.

I would assume the paint would start to peel after some heating cycles. Maybe powder coat it...then again...we are trying to stay somewhat on the cheap side.


My thoughts exactly!

SS is the way to go!!!.....I'm even thinking of drilling a hole and TIGing a thermometer into it....I think i am going to go with the cheap SS one on ebay...also might as KC talked about looking into the Zodi kit..any one have a link for them...i know it is somewhere in this big thread...

Thanks!!!

[Kermit]

I started this thread, because of a little rod I made up to slide out of my Thule rack to hold my shower shelter, when there are no trees around.

I lost the little holdersheitz, when I finally purchased a Wildernest.

I did put the Thule on the Wildernest, but, when in camp mode. Typically when I would use the shower. The top flips over and the rack is about chest level. The irony I tell you....

[Willman]

Provo is not really considered Utah :shakin: And Cabelas is 20 minutes from here :D


I missed this....Your a funny guy! I here ya on this one!!!!

:shakin:

[flyingwil]

I am working on a review of the PETT tent and the Paha Que tents... They should be complete by next week.

[Willman]

I am working on a review of the PETT tent and the Paha Que tents... They should be complete by next week.


Nice! Can't wait to see that!

:Astrologist:

[Willman]

I was told the same thing at my ACE. I did not order it yet. E bay has them for 39.95 plus $10 shipping. The seller said he had 200 plus of them. It is a 2.5 gal Hudson SS sprayer, I think made by LadyBug?? Found it agian.....LINK... http://cgi.ebay.com/Hudson-Stainless-Steel-Sprayer-2-gal-Pro_W0QQitemZ270117425318QQihZ017QQcategoryZ519QQr dZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem



Thanks man!!!

Just got mine SS pump off the link above!!!!

Warm showers here i come!!!

:wings:

[spressomon]

Thanks man!!!

Just got mine SS pump off the link above!!!!

Warm showers here i come!!!

:wings:

A few years ago a buddy of mine insisted on bringing a porta-tent for the purposes of showering out in the wilds of Alaska. Having spent the better part of the last 30+ years backpacking, on/off road bike touring, motorcylce touring, etc., I was the first one to shovel a load of shooty to him! But I gotta admit...after that first shower right there in the unspoiled lands of Alaska I had to eat crow...and a second helping of humble pie! And of course now I have a HH in my LC...and there's nothing like a hot shower to wash away 3lbs of trail dust at the end of the day...right before I sit down and enjoy some refreshingly cold beverage :) .

I'll eat crow any day to get "awoken" like that!

[Willman]

A few years ago a buddy of mine insisted on bringing a porta-tent for the purposes of showering out in the wilds of Alaska. Having spent the better part of the last 30+ years backpacking, on/off road bike touring, motorcylce touring, etc., I was the first one to shovel a load of shooty to him! But I gotta admit...after that first shower right there in the unspoiled lands of Alaska I had to eat crow...and a second helping of humble pie! And of course now I have a HH in my LC...and there's nothing like a hot shower to wash away 3lbs of trail dust at the end of the day...right before I sit down and enjoy some refreshingly cold beverage :) .

I'll eat crow any day to get "awoken" like that!

I here ya!!!

:chowtime: .......:cow:

:)

[dieselcruiserhead]

I don't know if Kurt (CruiserOutfit) has pimped his own products in this thread (didn't see it) but he had Helton shower systems, some basic, some pretty hardcore.. All work really well.. My only complaint is they seem to not come with all the fittings but other than that all look pretty good.. Cheers, A

[spressomon]

I don't know if Kurt (CruiserOutfit) has pimped his own products in this thread (didn't see it) but he had Helton shower systems, some basic, some pretty hardcore.. All work really well.. My only complaint is they seem to not come with all the fittings but other than that all look pretty good.. Cheers, A


That's where I got my HH from: Kurt. I love the system. I welded up a bracket for the heat exchanger so that it sits atop my inner fender within the engine bay...and I fabbed 2-more easy brackets that hold the 12V receptacle and the two H/C water QR fittings and added a hand throttle (which I wanted anyway for my winch).

You are right it is not quite a turn key kit if you want to do a nice job of it anyway; it takes a couple trips to the hose/fittings store, etc. But it works GREAT! And the system doesn't occupy precisous space in the cabin...and puts out a wonderful hot as you want shower.

[Super Doody]

So is 2 gallon really enough water for 3 showers? Doesnt seem enought for one person.

[spressomon]

I can get by with 1.5 gallons or so...but typically it's 2.5-3 gallons. I know desertdude is able to stretch a gallon or so. It's like most things...if the water source is available then I luxuriate...if not then I scrimp. Either way it's great after a dusty/sweaty day on the trail!

[kcowyo]

So is 2 gallon really enough water for 3 showers?
The term 'shower' is generous I think.

Think more like 'controlled rinse'. I can wash my hair and most of the important stuff ( :smilies27 ), with 2.5 gallons, but in the traditional sense of the word no, they don't provide a long hot shower.

No way could I get 3 'showers' out of a 2.5 gallon can.

[Lynn]

Just my $.02 on water conservation...

Kermit, above mentioned the ball valve to shut off the water. Process = turn on water and get wet. Turn off water. Lather. Turn on water and rinse.

This is pretty common amongst RV Boondockers, and most RV supply stores sell shower wands that have a built in valve.

Another option is to use a kitchen sink sprayer. Obviously, you have to hold the valve on this one, so it can't be left on for 'hands free' operation, which can be a pain when washing your hair. However, it helps 'enforce' water conservation when you have children using it ;)

[Desertdude]

One of the things I have found is with the Helton shower set up, the 12v pump is miniature and the shower head very fine - this combination allows you to have constant shower flow with out using much water - you can fully soak, soap, and rinse with less than one gallon per person.

On the other hand the system I built for the 80- series has a 12v surflo 2.8 GPM pump along with a West marine deck shower head - this set up, while it feels great to operate, uses much more water in the same amount of time. W

When I have a chance I am going to mess around with the pumps pressure as well as low flow washers near the shower head, to reduce the amount of water flow.

[Kermit]

The term 'shower' is generous I think.

.

Now that is funny.

I can usually get 3-4 "showers" out of 2 gallons. That is shutting the water off inbetween. I not a very big person, only 5' 8".

I recently purchased a Porta Privy, from Sportsman's Warehouse, it was only $40. It should keep it a little warmer in there, since it is more of an enclosure, than my previous setup.

http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/images/privy1.jpg

[Desertdude]

The term 'shower' is generous I think.

:iagree: I guess we should define "wet" :snorkel:

[kcowyo]

I recently purchased a Porta Privy....
http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/images/privy1.jpg

Me too. Have you figured out how to fold it back up yet? What a PITA....

I wrestled with it on the carpet of my living room and I'm very concerned about doing the same procedure on dirt, rocks, sand, etc. I'm thinking of picking up an extra 8x8 blue tarp, just to lay out and fold this thing back up on, without tearing it up on the ground. I do really like the design and features, like the floor, towel hanger, and skylight but breaking it down is like trying to wrestle a greased pig!

The PETT shower tent, I saw of Willman's folds up easier and more compact, like a camping chair. I thought the round, flat when packed up Porta Privy would be easy to store but that's kind of a PITA too.

[spressomon]

Me too. Have you figured out how to fold it back up yet? What a PITA....

I wrestled with it on the carpet of my living room and I'm very concerned about doing the same procedure on dirt, rocks, sand, etc. I'm thinking of picking up an extra 8x8 blue tarp, just to lay out and fold this thing back up on, without tearing it up on the ground. I do really like the design and features, like the floor, towel hanger, and skylight but breaking it down is like trying to wrestle a greased pig!

The PETT shower tent, I saw of Willman's folds up easier and more compact, like a camping chair. I thought the round, flat when packed up Porta Privy would be easy to store but that's kind of a PITA too.


Your breakdown experience is exactly why I haven't bought one of these yet. I keep hearing these stories of how hard it is to get it collapsed...

[Kermit]

Me too. Have you figured out how to fold it back up yet? What a PITA....

The best way to do it is......


....let someone else fold it up, Alice is very good at folding it back up. ;)

Actually I found it isn't too bad, there should be instructions in the carry bag sewn to the side.

[kcowyo]

...there should be instructions in the carry bag sewn to the side.

Oh, you gotta be kidding right?!

That little tag with the anatomically incorrect drawing of some dude (not The Dude) twisting it up like stereo wire? That thing was worthless!

In fairness, when I was showing it to my 6 year old, his Mom was the one who figured out how to fold it back up to. She said, "Oh, it's just like his SpongeBob Squarepants toy tent, " and then she grabbed, it flipped it around, tucked, rolled and gathered it into the bag like she was folding towels out of the dryer. So maybe it's a gender specific thing.

Infuriating.....:littlefriend:

[Kermit]

Oh, you gotta be kidding right?!

That little tag with the anatomically incorrect drawing of some dude.....


... So maybe it's a gender specific thing.



I was hoping you would get that.


She said it was like one of those window shades and grabbed it out of my hand, before I destroyed it. :D

[pray4surf]

I was hoping you would get that.


She said it was like one of those window shades and grabbed it out of my hand, before I destroyed it. :D

Yes, our wimmin are good in that respect... ;)

I've always packed conduit frames with silver tarps for shade on my surfaris. These frames are the types you see used by vendors at swap meets. I've purchased the couplers and corner pieces at swap meets and purchased the 1/2" conduit at local home improvement stores. Tarps are held in place with numerous bungees. My shower/toilet enclosure is simply the same with a 5' high tarp wrapped around it 4'x4' square footprint. Until I upgrade, the toilet is simply a 5-gal bucket and plastic bag. I do haul around an oak terlet seat and will use it even if the 'campsite' provides an 'outhouse' (terms in quotes are meant to be applied loosely).

Now, regarding these shower enclosures with a floor, what happens to the water that collects on the floor?:confused:

Rick

[spressomon]

Yes, our wimmin are good in that respect... ;)

I've always packed conduit frames with silver tarps for shade on my surfaris. These frames are the types you see used by vendors at swap meets. I've purchased the couplers and corner pieces at swap meets and purchased the 1/2" conduit at local home improvement stores. Tarps are held in place with numerous bungees. My shower/toilet enclosure is simply the same with a 5' high tarp wrapped around it 4'x4' square footprint. Until I upgrade, the toilet is simply a 5-gal bucket and plastic bag. I do haul around an oak terlet seat and will use it even if the 'campsite' provides an 'outhouse' (terms in quotes are meant to be applied loosely).

Now, regarding these shower enclosures with a floor, what happens to the water that collects on the floor?:confused:

Rick


Both of mine (Cabela's/Sportsman Warehouse & the Paha Que Teepee model) have a floor with ventilated sides to allow dispersement of the shower water. Obviously these things need to be used away from any water source (lakes, streams, springs, etc.) with minimal soap...containment might be the next 'thing'...

[Bergger]

Me too. Have you figured out how to fold it back up yet? What a PITA....

I wrestled with it on the carpet of my living room and I'm very concerned about doing the same procedure on dirt, rocks, sand, etc. I'm thinking of picking up an extra 8x8 blue tarp, just to lay out and fold this thing back up on, without tearing it up on the ground. I do really like the design and features, like the floor, towel hanger, and skylight but breaking it down is like trying to wrestle a greased pig!

The PETT shower tent, I saw of Willman's folds up easier and more compact, like a camping chair. I thought the round, flat when packed up Porta Privy would be easy to store but that's kind of a PITA too.

I've had one for the past year and it is the easiest thing in the world to fold up. It took me a couple of tries to figure it out but once you get it down the thing almost folds its self up. Once you fold it in half the key is to grab the both sides at the bottom end, wide end, then cross your arms as you fold it towards the top. It'll fold itself into a little circle. If you have to force it your not doing it right. Kinda like my wife says! Takes a little practice.

[Kermit]

Now, regarding these shower enclosures with a floor, what happens to the water that collects on the floor?:confused:

Rick

The floor is removable, I use one of my truck mats to stand on.

Trying to talk Alice into filming an folding instructual video....she ain't going for it...:)

[Dave]

Trying to talk Alice into filming an folding instructual video....she ain't going for it...:)

First, I think I'd like to see the video of KC wrestling his around on the floor and then you follow up with the "duh, here's how it's done" video. That would likely make me laugh out loud. :jump:

[Martyn]

Showers lined up for blast off!!

Paha Que make the only shower enclosure that are certified for flight :eek:

[Kermit]

First, I think I'd like to see the video of KC wrestling his around on the floor and then you follow up with the "duh, here's how it's done" video. That would likely make me laugh out loud. :jump:

I would love to see KC doing that...

I'll see what I can do about her video...she is a bit shy. I always get.." You're not going to put that on the internet...are you?"

[articulate]

Paha Que make the only shower enclosure that are certified for flight :eek:
Gawd, do I have a story of said feat . . .

[Martyn]

Gawd, do I have a story of said feat . . .

Sorry Articulate, I was working on the premise that a picture was worth a thousand words!

But reading between the lines. The picture was taken at our Pyramid Lake Adventure. The diurnal wind swings got pretty strong each evening and the only tents that stayed up were the RTT's and the Paha Que Tee Pee shower enclosures. They were anchored down in loose sand which says a lot for their stability.

The original picture tells a much more interesting story of space exploration associated with the mysticism of the Pyramid, but I only tell that one over cold beers!:yikes:

The picture below is one of our owners, Lou, having a "close encounter".:friday:

[hoser]

Here's the Porta-Privy Instructional Video. (http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/privyvideo.htm)

Also, anybody have experience with the Springbar Cabana? I know Springbar makes great tents. The footprint is 5'x6' with a max height of 82". No floor. 11lbs. $139.

http://www.springbar.com/explore/canopies/cabana.html

http://www.springbar.com/a/px/tents/cabana-cr-sm.jpg

[kcowyo]

Here's the Porta-Privy Instructional Video. (http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/privyvideo.htm)

Excellent link hoser!

Notice that it's a woman in the video though? I still think it's gender biased....;)


Gawd, do I have a story of said feat . . .
:lurk:

[spressomon]

Here's the Porta-Privy Instructional Video. (http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/privyvideo.htm)

Also, anybody have experience with the Springbar Cabana? I know Springbar makes great tents. The footprint is 5'x6' with a max height of 82". No floor. 11lbs. $139.

http://www.springbar.com/explore/canopies/cabana.html

http://www.springbar.com/a/px/tents/cabana-cr-sm.jpg



Ok hoser...that's all I needed to commit...going to get one this week! Thanks!!

[hoser]

Cool, I think I'll pick up a Porta-Privy as well. Leaning towards getting it from Cabela's as they have their 100% satisfaction guarantee. Currently on sale for $50 plus $8 shipping.

[gpwpat]

I built the weed sprayer shower. It works great. it was in stock at my local ACE. at Walmart I got a garden sprayer with a valve and an adjustable head. all I had to do was put a 1/2" hose fitting on the end of the hose that came with the pot and screw on the garden sprayer. Also at wally world they had a shower tent for 30 bucks.

In all I got a pressure shower with tent for 100 bucks.:)

[pray4surf]

Been a while since I read up on these garden sprayer shower contraptions. So maybe I've seen this done and forgotten..

Anyone pressurized these with an OBA system? rather than hand pumping it?

Would have to regulate the pressure way down ~10-15psi I imagine...

Rick

[adventureduo]

Im glad they have a video to show you how to fold it back up. I bought a tent that worked the same way and i swear to you.. the tent was smarter than us! For the life of me, we tried bending it every way and never got it back into the carrying case. It was like mission impossible.

[adventureduo]

Do you guys know if you can hang a solar shower inside the Porta-Privy?

Didn't see if there was a cross bar to hang it on or not.

[Kermit]

Do you guys know if you can hang a solar shower inside the Porta-Privy?

Didn't see if there was a cross bar to hang it on or not.


There is nothing except some cheap *****, ties to hang the shower head. ( I ripped one out by accident.(whoops) I use the bug sprayer setup, so it stays on the ground.

The privy is working great other than the tie coming off, stays quite warm, and has enough room to get dressed in there....it only cost $40, too!

I may convert the shower to a pump that runs off the truck battery in the future...pumping it up is a pain. It works, but....

[Dave]

Anyone pressurized these with an OBA system? rather than hand pumping it?

Would have to regulate the pressure way down ~10-15psi I imagine...

Rick

This seems like a cool idea to me. I've never seen a Zodi Extreme in person, but it seems workable.

[adventureduo]

There is nothing except some cheap *****, ties to hang the shower head. ( I ripped one out by accident.(whoops) I use the bug sprayer setup, so it stays on the ground.

The privy is working great other than the tie coming off, stays quite warm, and has enough room to get dressed in there....it only cost $40, too!

I may convert the shower to a pump that runs off the truck battery in the future...pumping it up is a pain. It works, but....

Thanks for the inside info. I think i'll pick one up along with a coleman shower pump and run the water out of a 5 gallon scetper can off my bumper. Should work good for this trip.

[Kermit]

Thanks for the inside info. I think i'll pick one up along with a coleman shower pump and run the water out of a 5 gallon scetper can off my bumper. Should work good for this trip.


Is that can metal? You could just throw it in the stove. I did the solar shower for years...kinda got fed up with it.

I was thinking of hooking up an air pump to the shower can...might be too much of a hassel....electric pump inthe future..(hmmm...maybe). Or just throw a shrader valve on there and use my air compressor to "charge" the shower in a can. that should be easy and cheap.

Don't want to give too much of a visual, but, after soaping up...then having to repressurize the can...not so much fun. I am thinking I rather flip a switch. I must say, a hot shower after a long day of playing in the dirt...is priceless. We used to take a dip in cold creek. Or find a random pool in some town. :D...or a Garden Hose behind the Elks Club....in Flagstaff...:p

[tjbliley]

Old Pressurized water fire extinguishers work god as well. They already have shrader valve and you can change out the discharge hose to what you need.

[adventureduo]

Is that can metal? You could just throw it in the stove. I did the solar shower for years...kinda got fed up with it.

For this trip i was going to pick up a 5 gallon plastic Scepter water can cause they have a huge mouth and i need to be able to drop my pump pickup down inside. There's no way i can do that with my NATO cans, the opening is too small.

Here's the can. http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=162829

[MountainBiker]

I bought the Stainless Steel sprayer from AceHardwareOutlet.com! What type of sprayer nozzle are people using for the "shower"? Will a sink sprayer work at the low pressures provided by this setup?

[Willman]

I bought the Stainless Steel sprayer from AceHardwareOutlet.com! What type of sprayer nozzle are people using for the "shower"? Will a sink sprayer work at the low pressures provided by this setup?

I got my shower head at the home dump......Works great...even at low pressure

:)

[LaOutbackTrail]

I just made it last weekend.

It has bean heated 5 times so far, to boiling once. I would also pressurize it after heating.

I have to pump it twice for one shower, testing at home before I use it in the field. Works so much better than my solar, plus I am guaranteed I will have hot water. I have taken enough cold showers in the past to be well over that. :)

Oh, one more thing, mine has a metal siphon tube, I noticed some had plastic siphons, which I would fear those would melt when heating on the stove.

Ever boiled water in a PLASTIC water bottle??? Its possible. As long as you are careful. As far as distortion goes, i cant answer that.

[highlandercj-7]

Anyone thought of using this? My Dad just bought one for his RV, but for those of us with a power inverter this might work. Though it's not cheap (103.00)
http://www.rvupgradestore.com/ProductImages/appliances/888714.jpg

[tjbliley]

How many watts is it? That would be the most important question, second only to how long it would take to heat up 5 gal of water.


Anyone thought of using this? My Dad just bought one for his RV, but for those of us with a power inverter this might work. Though it's not cheap (103.00)
http://www.rvupgradestore.com/ProductImages/appliances/888714.jpg

[ntsqd]

How many watts do you want? I've got one here at work being used to heat a coolant system (I know...) that is 2500 watts. Heats the 5 gallon system surprisingly fast.

[tjbliley]

I was looking at the lightning Rod thing. I have acces to one and I was curious what size inverter would be needed to run it. I do some RV'ing and know a few repair shops that have used aprts for sale. makes it nice to outfit a trailer with some convience things.

[ntsqd]

Search "Immersion Heater" at McMaster-Carr.com (http://www.mcmaster.com/) as another possible option.

[p1michaud]

It's an old thread, but worth re-visiting.

After seeing both the the Outback Porta-Privy and ZODI shower system at Expedition Trophy 2007. I was convinced that they were a great combo for my style of travel. So, in the fall I made up a DIY version of the ZODI similar to others in this tread. Driveway testing looks very promissing and get your mind out of the gutter, I did not test it Viking style :shakin: I also ordered the cool Outback Porta-Privy. I set it up and though this thing is great untill it came time to put it back in that very small bag...

After many laughs, a few choice words, having my wife try it, going on to the net to watch the video (http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/privyvideo.htm) we finally got it back in the bag. I've been scarred to pull it out ever since. So for those of you that use this privacy shelter, how long does it take you to pack it up? Took me 20 mintues on the first try! :elkgrin:

Previously posted here on ExPo:


Seems like most folks like it but everyone agrees you practically need an engineering degree from MIT to figure out how to fold it back up.


It is the Outback Porta Privy that opens itself after you pull it out of the bag, we pulled one out at the store... there wasn't a single employee that could show us how to put it back in the bag. I'm going to have my wife film me taking it out so I can watch in slow motion... :D


I spent 30 minutes the first night after I opened it, trying to fold it back up to put it away. Then my neighbor came over and he tried for awhile.... He looked like he was trying to wrestle a greased pig.

So it's still standing, half-folded up, in the corner of my living room. But it looks really good....:smilies27

I'm glad to read that I'm not the only one. So who can take a video of them folding this thing up with step by step instructions?

Cheers,
P

[Rockcrawler]

mmmm.... bout 30 seconds I think. It is just like folding up those spring steel sunshades.

1. Push in the sides.
2. Fold the top towards the bottom.
3. Cross your arms over each other and twist the shelter, tuck it in and you're done.

Once you get it the first time it makes sense and is easy enough to do.

[kcowyo]

.....we finally got it back in the bag. I've been scarred to pull it out ever since. So for those of you that use this privacy shelter, how long does it take you to pack it up? Took me 20 mintues on the first try! :elkgrin:

Only 20 minutes on your first try? Heck Pierre, that might be a new record!

I found the video to be very helpful. The most helpful clue I got out of that was to brace the top, once folded in half longways, against a door or wall. Then it can't get away from you. We (myself & the neighbor) were trying to wrestle it in the middle of my living room and it was a no-go.

Once I figured out the wall trick, it was as simple as some people claimed. I have used a tree and even my truck tire in camp to wedge it against, before the final flip-flop, fold & tuck routine. It does get easier with practice.

Congrats on getting the Zodi & Porta-Privy. I think they make a great combo too. :beer:

[p1michaud]

Only 20 minutes on your first try? Heck Pierre, that might be a new record!

Ha,
I'm feeling brave today, may have to give it another try and see how I make out! :REExeSquatsHL1:
Looking forward to putting both items to good use.
Cheers,
P

[tdesanto]

... I also ordered the cool Outback Porta-Privy. I set it up and though this thing is great untill it came time to put it back in that very small bag...

After many laughs, a few choice words, having my wife try it, going on to the net to watch the video (http://www.evergreen-outdoors.net/outback/privyvideo.htm) we finally got it back in the bag. I've been scarred to pull it out ever since. So for those of you that use this privacy shelter, how long does it take you to pack it up? Took me 20 mintues on the first try! :elkgrin:

Cheers,
P

About 30 seconds to fold it and then about another 30-60 seconds to put it back in the carry bag. You'll get it Pierre. I have a write-up towards the beginning of the thread with step-by-step instructions. Hope it helps.

[craig]

I had it *down* last year, but I haven't used ours in a long while. We went camping this weekend and our entire group of 6 families spent an hour trying to figure out how to fold it back up. We wound up strapping it to the roof. :)

Just watched the video again, and will give it another go tomorrow.

[kcowyo]

I had it *down* last year, but I haven't used ours in a long while....

Me too. I spent an extremely frustrating morning yesterday in Idaho, trying to fold it back up. Mine went back in the bag but I doubt it will ever be useful again....

Screw that stupid thing, I hated trying to store that big awkward disc anyway. I'm buying a PETT. :violent-smiley-031:

[tdesanto]

Me too. I spent an extremely frustrating morning yesterday in Idaho, trying to fold it back up. Mine went back in the bag but I doubt it will ever be useful again....

Screw that stupid thing, I hated trying to store that big awkward disc anyway. I'm buying a PETT. :violent-smiley-031:

Wow, I'm sensing some serious anger and hostilty.

[kcowyo]

Wow, I'm sensing some serious anger and hostilty.

Oh, there was anger and hostility my friend, there was anger and hostility.....

Let me clear up what you're sensing. I would be in jail or sitting at Satan's right hand if I had vowed to do to a human being, what I told that tent I was going to do it, if it didn't get it's sorry @ss back in that bag.....

The sad irony? I really needed a shower after being drenched in sweat, wrestling that silly thing back into the bag.

:oops:

[Willman]

I'm buying a PETT. :violent-smiley-031:

About time!!!!!!

You will have to take Mark F'n with ya to use the ^&*%$#% thing...so he can put it back for you!

:shakin:

[kcowyo]

I may just give up showering altogether.... or I may do what the other travellin' dirtbags do, and head to your house Nic, for a little rinse-a-roo.

;)

[ntsqd]

The sad thing that the other Engineers that I work with do not seem to get is just how much a little frustration here and a little frustration there adds up. It is a constant battle for me to make them understand that the tooling that only we're going to be using wants to be as user friendly as we can make it. God help us if we were designing consumer product.

I won the last battle by asking if I got to whine, biotch, and complain every time I had to use the tool that they were too lazy to add a couple User Friendly features to.

[Willman]

I may just give up showering altogether.... or I may do what the other travellin' dirtbags do, and head to your house Nic, for a little rinse-a-roo.

;)

Ether way......Your welcome anytime!

:)

[Dave]

Me too. I spent an extremely frustrating morning yesterday in Idaho, trying to fold it back up. Mine went back in the bag but I doubt it will ever be useful again....

Screw that stupid thing, I hated trying to store that big awkward disc anyway. I'm buying a PETT. :violent-smiley-031:

Same boat. I used the Outback Privy on our last trip through SoMo and while I did get the hang of it, I was sweating and covered in dirt by the time I got it in the bag. And speaking of the bag...the zipper split the first time I used it during the trial run in the living room. So now, when I finally get the awkward twisted up pile of fabric into the bag, I get to deal with a busted zipper.

Storage is not easy due to it's size and shape and setting it up is not all that great either, stupid thing did not want to square up the last time we set it up on our trip.

I will admit, I was impressed at how well it weathered a storm though. We had a doozy blow through one night and I thought (wished) for sure I'd find the Outback hanging from a tree. It hung on tight and didn't even pull a stake out of the ground, though I did have all four corners staked down as well as the guy lines at all four corners.

I will also admit that showers were a great touch to a windless week with warm temps and many bugs.

So, speaking of the PETT shelter. How DOES it set up? I can't seem to find any instructions on the innerweb...could it be so simple that no one talks about it?

Anyone tried a Trekker (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0032218516922a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=shower+shelter&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=shower+shelter&noImage=0) shelter?

[kcowyo]

I've seen Willman's PETT in person a couple of times now. Looks like it sets up like any other tent, with (collapsible?) tent poles, stakes and such. Takes him 3 minutes, tops.

What I like about the PETT over the Porta-Privy, is that it all folds up like a camping chair or roll up camp table. So it would be easier (for me) to stack it up with the Zodi, two camp chairs and the potty chair in the FWC. The discus shaped Porta Privy was just awkward to store for me.

Here's a pic of the Porta Privy in action the afternoon before it bested my gentle disposition.

http://s170537965.onlinehome.us/KcoWyo/gallery2/d/4563-1/Idaho+4th+077.jpg


I should say that normally the PITA pack up procedure wouldn't have been enough to get me all fired up, but it was the last morning of a 3 day trip where we encountered a few more annoyances than I'm used to.

Oh, and I changed the hose and shower head from the stock Zodi unit to a kitchen sink trigger-type dispenser. The pull & push head on the Zodi unit was so-so at best. The trigger sprayer was much better although I could have used an extra foot of hose. Too short to go through the access sleeve on the back of the tent. For $7 at the hardware store, it was a great upgrade.

[Dave]

The trigger sprayer was much better although I could have used an extra foot of hose. Too short to go through the access sleeve on the back of the tent. For $7 at the hardware store, it was a great upgrade.

I upgraded our Zodi bug sprayer shower head to something from the garden department and retained the stock hose. Much better but seems to depressurize the tank much faster. I have an idea on how to fix that though.

In regards to the short hose, could you put the tank in side the shelter? That's what we did with ours...not while running the burner of course. Makes pressurizing mid-shower a much more private affair.

[kcowyo]

I guess I could put the tank inside, but I have a phobia about hot metals and nylon being in the same vacinity while one is exposed. I also don't want to risk puncturing or tearing the tarp floor with the stand legs. And honestly, I'm not sure I'm coordinated enough to shower quickly with the tank inside the small tent space.

As for priming the pump mid-shower, since I really bought the thing for her, well that's just an opportunity for a free peak in my book.

;)

[craig]

Despite my frustrations this weekend, I still like the Porta-privy. Once you master it, it takes 30 seconds to setup and 30 seconds to put away. It worked great as a privacy shelter for the toilet and with the floor in it also worked great for showering. I like that it doesn't have any poles or other pieces to lose.

The only frustration for us is collapsing it when we are out of practice. Even fully expanded, but flattened, it fit in our truck. If I forget how to fold it up every once in a while and have to carry it home like that, I'll be OK. A quick watch of the video once we were home and my wife had it put away in a snap.

I pack camp chairs, privacy shelters, and several other items vertically like books rather than stacked. We usually just slide the porta-privy in between a couple of our chairs, with a net over the top. It is easy to get in/out.

Other than the pockets on the inside it has been fairly durable for what it is. We don't use ours a whole lot though, so I can't speak to the long term durability.

[spressomon]

Ditto on the durability comments of the PortaPrivy. I'd gladly spend a few more bucks to get a heavier duty cover and zipper and also better/durable plastic interior pockets.

[Bogo]

Dredging up old threads...


So here's something that i've wondered about after reading about shower setups. How do you guys address tromping around in the mud/water/dirt while taking a shower? Do you guys put a matt down or something? Where shoes? Im kind of confused about that part.


As for keeping feet out of the mud, I have a neighbor who made me what amounts to wooden door mats. Pieces of redwood strips 1x3 that are 30" long x 15" wide, I have two of them and they are easy to store and keep you off the ground. I prefer that over the standard plastic tarp that comes with the shower shelter.

Hum... Just thinking out loud. Sounds like a perfect excuse to get a pair of those waffle style composite sand ladders. Put two of them side by side on the ground should be good for a 24" wide shower floor. Ya might still wish to wear flip flops due to the size of the holes. Just trying to get multiple uses out of everything taken along...:sombrero: Somebody needs to try it and report back. I don't own a set of them yet or I'd try it in the barn shower. I do like the wood mat idea and already use that in the barn shower.

[craig]

Most of the shower shelters come with a ground tarp. You stand on the tarp, the water flows off of it, your feet stay clean.

[rambrush]

What i have started using with mine is shade cloth makes a great runway to shower water drains through and life is good. Buy all kinds and sizes from Gemplers.com

[morgan01]

It works when there is rain and we are caught in it. at that time we think about nothing else but the shower shelter.

[saburai]

Dredging up old threads...





Hum... Just thinking out loud. Sounds like a perfect excuse to get a pair of those waffle style composite sand ladders. Put two of them side by side on the ground should be good for a 24" wide shower floor. Ya might still wish to wear flip flops due to the size of the holes. Just trying to get multiple uses out of everything taken along...:sombrero: Somebody needs to try it and report back. I don't own a set of them yet or I'd try it in the barn shower. I do like the wood mat idea and already use that in the barn shower.

Now I just need to find a pair of lightly used sand ladders on the cheap:coffeedrink: