Russian 1938 M91/30: My first Gun Questions!

[modelbuilder]

Just bought it last week and pick it up Sunday from Big 5. The first thing I plan on doing is to clean the bore and remove, disassemble, and clean the bolt.

I should be good to go as it appears relatively simple. Bought my cleaning kit along with Hoppes 9. Since my ammo is corrosive I bought windex with ammonia to spray in before going in with the Hoppes.

My question is what is the little tool at the beginning of this video. It is under the words "Tipton Best Gun" and looks like a miniature saw.

I know you use to check the firing pin but I am unclear as to what he means by (at minute 1:48) the firing pin should be in the range of the middle two notches of that tool. Just that the pin should slide under the two notches with room to spare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUtdEIAT7Lg&NR=1

Thanks!

[luk4mud]

Wow, you've been busy Joe. Can't wait for my cleaning lesson.:ylsmoke:

[SunTzuNephew]

Just bought it last week and pick it up Sunday from Big 5. The first thing I plan on doing is to clean the bore and remove, disassemble, and clean the bolt.

I should be good to go as it appears relatively simple. Bought my cleaning kit along with Hoppes 9. Since my ammo is corrosive I bought windex with ammonia to spray in before going in with the Hoppes.

My question is what is the little tool at the beginning of this video. It is under the words "Tipton Best Gun" and looks like a miniature saw.

I know you use to check the firing pin but I am unclear as to what he means by (at minute 1:48) the firing pin should be in the range of the middle two notches of that tool. Just that the pin should slide under the two notches with room to spare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUtdEIAT7Lg&NR=1

Thanks!

The tool is a multi-purpose tool that is normally used to remove the barrel collet on 1911 pistols. The notches in it (the saw teeth) are different depths to show different distances (using one for firing pin protrusion).

You can also use the tool as a screwdriver, etc...

I don't know where to get one. Maintenance on a Mosin? Be the first! :wings:


They're my wife's favorite rifle. Without the bayonet they're almost taller than she is.

[modelbuilder]

Thanks SunTzuNephew!





Wow, you've been busy Joe. Can't wait for my cleaning lesson.:ylsmoke:

Let's pick a date and have a rifle party. I'll bring the ammo.





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[robert]

You bought a Mosin as a first rifle? Seriously, don't let it dissuade you from trying other rifles- not all of them sound like a field piece going off. Seriously though, wear ear protection. I've got a cut down sporterized one that kicks like a mule and is just as brutal on the ears- throws a mean fireball at night though. :elkgrin:

[el_jefe]

If you haven't already, strip down the stock, and put it in a plastic trash bag and leave it out in the sun for a few hours (kinda hard in the winter, but you're in CA). After it's nice and warm, take the stock out, wipe the cosmoline off, and put it back in the bag to cook some more. I let mine sit out for a couple days while I did this.

[SunTzuNephew]

You bought a Mosin as a first rifle? Seriously, don't let it dissuade you from trying other rifles- not all of them sound like a field piece going off. Seriously though, wear ear protection. I've got a cut down sporterized one that kicks like a mule and is just as brutal on the ears- throws a mean fireball at night though. :elkgrin:


Yeah, that 100 year old surplus ammo wasn't flashless ;) Be careful in California - you could start a fire!

Seriously, buy a couple of cans of ammo, and practice with one of them. The most successful sniper in the world, Simo Hayha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4), used a Mosin M28 (mostly) in his work...They're good enough.

[Bill Beers]

The most successful sniper in the world, Simo Hayha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4), used a Mosin M28 (mostly) in his work...They're good enough.

Vasily Zaytsev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Zaitsev) also.

-Bill

[modelbuilder]

I was worried about the kick but there are tons of videos online of children shooting the same rifle. I just want to get it nice and clean before I shoot.

Anymore tips on where I can find that tool in the video I posted?

[luk4mud]

Vasily Zaytsev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Zaitsev) also.

-Bill

Looks like we'll be learning Russian and German as we play with our new guns, Joe. Do you want to be Zaytsev or Konig?

[John E]

my Lee-Enfield Jungle carbine in .303 British, every body and their brother warned me about how badly it kicked. Damned near put me off buying it in the first place.

Imagine my surprise when I took it to the range for the first time, extremely manageable recoil, bit loud but nothing extreme.

You wanna hear a loud gun? Have somebody fire off a pistol chambered for a .30 caliber carbine at an indoor range sometime...and be innocently shooting your .38 Special 4" revolver next to them.

[modelbuilder]

looks like we'll be learning russian and german as we play with our new guns, joe. Do you want to be zaytsev or konig?

Брюс мой друг ... Konig мы очистим наши винтовки и едят большие куски мяса, что мы охотились и убили в лесу. После этого мы будем заполнять наши животы пиво и петь песни у костра.



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[SunTzuNephew]

Tyhmät ihmiset, voit hyökätä maani ja kuolet

[modelbuilder]

I shot it yesterday...about 20 rounds.

Kick was not as bad as I thought it was. Actually it wasn't bad at all.

But man was it loud. Best $100 I have ever spent.

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[modelbuilder]

I took the whole gun apart today. Took apart the bolt, removed the barrel, ammo clip, and trigger, cleaned and lightly oiled. Stained and sealed all the parts of the wood that were chipped. Then went over all the wood with a new stain and seal.

Put it all back together a few minutes ago.

[modelbuilder]

Double Post

[John E]

to seal the wood? Best advice I've been given recommended for use on milsurp rifles is a thorough rubdown with 0000 steel wool, wipe down with mineral spirits to clean up the dust and then hand rubbed coats of boiled linseed oil. Let each coat soak in then wipe off the excess, let it cure, rub it down again, repeat until the wood won't let any more of the BLO soak in. Last step is a very light rub down to knock down the sheen.

Military rifles aren't supposed to look like shiny plastic, a nice satin finish is what you're looking for.

The BLO will also waterproof the wood while allowing it to breathe.

A complete refinish of my Enfield is on my to do list.

[modelbuilder]

Cleaned the wood first with this antique wood cleaning stuff. Then masked off the areas that didn't need to be re-treated and sprayed this stain and sealent spray to the areas with exposed wood (from chips and drops over the last 70 years).

Then when that was all dry I placed another seal over all of the wood. The gun actually looks very nice now that everything is dry.

[chrslefty]

If I may make a suggestion. Get a cheep recoil pad from wallyworld or some other place, it makes shooting the gun a pleasure. :victory: !! And it’ll let the lady friends go home with out a bruised shoulder. Love mine and I’m taking it on its first hunt with my in Feb. if my bullet doesn’t kill Pumba the bayonet will do the trick lol.

a vid if it works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDY4vYABRu8

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Q1SwdyebTv-x3arVJzX2nQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCL7loMyu2-XPjgE&feat=directlink