wrangler unlimited, son of FJ55

[haven]

The folks at Jeep seem to find inspiration in the Land Cruisers
of the 1970's, particularly the FJ55 wagon.

http://www.buschtaxi.org/cms/fileadmin/daten/fahrzeuge/fj55_gross.jpg

2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (SEMA 2006 concept vehicle)
http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/images/2006-10-30%20jeep%20diesel%20rubicon%204.jpg

The concept vehicle is equipped with the Mercedes 3.0L V6
turbo diesel. It's the same engine that will appear in a couple
of months in the Grand Cherokee. Hmmmm.

Chip Haven

[RunninRubicon]

If you had been fan of anything "Jeep" over the years, you might recognize this "issue" of a 4-door, steel top Wrangler as the "Dakar." It has been around
the drawing boards at Jeep for a few years now. It is another temptation that we may never see but can still "wish for!" Something in the same category as another Jeep pick-up or a concept like the Rescue.

[cshontz]

If you had been fan of anything "Jeep" over the years, you might recognize this "issue" of a 4-door, steel top Wrangler as the "Dakar."

If I recall correctly, the Dakar did go into production in the form of the Liberty, which was stated to share design cues with both the Jeepster and Dakar concepts. I personally would've preferred the Dakar to go into production as is, however. That is ExPo chic! :)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/127489300_d301155228.jpg

[CLynn85]

The dakar as a 4-door TJ based vehicle would've been amazing, really think Moparts missed the boat on that one.

[LUISJG]

this one look more like the unlimited 4 door

[RunninRubicon]

Toyota H3 wannabe, to me.

[haven]

That's a photo of Rod Millen's Retro Cruiser.
Start with an FJ45 wagon, saw it down the
centerline, install a toyota 4.7L V8, build in
12 inches of ground clearance, and you have
the Retro Cruiser

http://www.millenworks.com/html/concept_vehicles.htm?&navItemIndex=19

http://www.millenworks.com/html/projects/cv/retrocruiser/img_Landcruiser_Retrocruiser_02.jpg

Chip Haven

[kcowyo]

Toyota H3 wannabe, to me.

That's blasphemy! :violent-smiley-031:

Brush up on your Landcruiser history. That's a throwback to the '65 FJ45LV or the '60 FJ35.

[cruiseroutfit]

That's blasphemy! :violent-smiley-031:

Brush up on your Landcruiser history. That's a throwback to the '65 FJ45LV or the '60 FJ35.

Not only is it a retro 45 series... But is appeared a couple years before the H3 ;), who's the "wannabe" :REOutArchery02:

[CLynn85]

Who's the real wannabe here? :coffee:
http://www.jeepfan.com/offroad/pajeeps01/willys_wagon.JPG

http://photos.aaca.org/data/500/31839Willys_and_Airstream_left-med.JPG

http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/images/print/conestoga@tritel.net/1961_LC_Brochure-7.jpg

Edited to make one of the pics work

[kcowyo]

You're right Carl.

GM and Hummer totally ripped off Jeep's stellar original idea. :mad:

:clapsmile

[LUISJG]

Toyota H3 wannabe, to me.
:ar15:

[flyingwil]

Toyota H3 wannabe, to me.
No, this is:
http://www.megacruiser.com/images/exterior/ext01_640.jpg

[cruiseroutfit]

No, this is...

That would be an H1 "improvement" ;) Nothing like an H3 ;)

[articulate]

Well this has been a thrilling thread. I can't quite tell if this another one of those "the-company-that-makes-the-truck-I-drive-came-up-with-the-concept-that-Jeep-stole-therefore-the-new-Wrangler-sucks" threads or not. But you boys sure do have me laughing.

:clapsmile

[calamaridog]

Damn, they are so ugly only I could love them all:av-7:


BTW, the Willy's Wagon is the baddest SUV ever.

Ah yes, Willy's Overland...

When Jeep's didn't #@*!:sombrero:

(edited out the word "suck");)

[Grim Reaper]

No, this is:
http://www.megacruiser.com/images/exterior/ext01_640.jpg
It predates the H3 by 7-8 years. It is nearly the size of a H1

As far as who stole what......The FJ was a result of the US government recommending to Toyota to build Jeep like vehicle so they wouldn't have to import real jeeps after WWII when the US was occupying Japan and helping rebuild. The F stands for the motor family the J stands for Jeep. It was at one point called a "Jeep" and Willis Overland threaten legal action over Trademark infringements so Toyota took the “FJ” designation. The 6 lug wheels and the basics of the engine are Chevy all the way. The engine is very close to a Chevy I6 and the wheels were GM truck spec and that explains why they are SAE not Metric.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser#1950-1959

1950-1959
1950 - The Korean War created demand for a military light utility vehicle, an updated Jeep, on Japan's doorstep. The U.S. put out a request to tender for 100 vehicles - the exact requirement spec is based on Willys. Toyota got this tender.

[jerdog53]

http://www.millenworks.com/html/concept_vehicles.htm?&navItemIndex=19


What the FJ Cruser should have been.



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[Scott Brady]

They had that at SEMA. Very cool concept.

[RunninRubicon]

I recognize there exists strong opinions here thus I wanted to relay this statement I heard on the news. Toyota has assumed the title of the #1 automobile manufacturer in the world. Surpassing GM. I say good for them and further I say shame on us for allowing intended obsolesence to be the creed instead of building a better product in the first place. Greed has had it's way. Now the competition comes to our American soil, using American labor to build a product evidently superior then our own GM and Ford.
Retrospectively, it appears the axis has risen from the rubble we left them in after WWII to win anyway-automotively.
It seems a very cloudy day indeed when our American Icon the "Ford Pickup" is about to be overcome as well. Evidently, some else has learned to build better mouse traps after we showed them how.