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Suty
11-18-2005, 04:47 PM
I know that this can be a sticky issue with some, but I was wondering if we have any Hunters here ? More specifically Bowhunters. I am a Traditional Bowhunter who enjoys hunting and the outdoors. I have pretty much gave up Gun Hunting for the challenge of Traditional Bowhunting. I started out with a Compound Bow but have moved to the Traditional side of the house. I like the fact that I have to Stalk up within 20 to 25 yards, instead of blasting away at 200 yards. I've missed more animals then I have taken due to this fact. A wind shift or slightest wrong move and your animal is gone. I enjoy just being outside in the Fall and taken it all in. I hope that I will not have offended any of our PETA, animal loving friends. I kill only what I eat and I hunt responsibly. However, I would say that if a huge 12 Point Buck walks within range of me and my Longbow, I'd take him as a trophy, I would still eat him though. Let me know if your a Hunter and how you Hunt, and if your not, I'm sorry.......you should really try it. By the way I am a member of PETA ( People who Eat Tasty Animals) Tu Compadre, Suty

Michael Slade
11-19-2005, 04:50 PM
Suty,

I've never owned a gun, but have gone out shooting handguns with a couple of my buddies and enjoy it.

My neighbor just got a 5-point elk in Colorado last month. Gave me a bunch of elk steaks and boy oh boy they are good.

It's making me seriously think of starting up hunting. The meat is so darn good, it's a shame the stuff in the stores isn't as high quality.

I'd stick with the guns though...I stink too much to stalk a deer. :)

Suty
11-19-2005, 07:44 PM
Mike , I am glad to see you interested in taking up the Hunt. If you have never hunted before I encourage you to attend a Hunters Safety Course and to Hunt with someone who has. Our sport has alot of critics and because of that I would say to you Hunt Responsibly. Don't take that shot that is beyond your range and skill level, better to let that animal pass then take a chance of wounding it. I really hope you decide to take up the challenge to hunt and enjoy the time outdoors as well as the meat YOU put on the table. Tu Compadre, Suty

Scott Brady
11-20-2005, 02:43 AM
I really enjoy bird hunting...

I have a large collection of shotguns (90% willed to me from family), but really love my vintage (turn of the century) model 12's, and also have a soft spot for my HK .45 ACP USP. One of the finest handguns ever made.

calamaridog
11-20-2005, 08:07 AM
I also enjoy hunting. I have not bow hunted for around 8 years as I haven't the time to practice my archery anymore. I have found archery skills are much more perishable than firearms skills.

I encourage everyone who eats meat to kill and eat something at least once in their lives. Don't chastise me for hunting then go down the street and order a hamburger :chowtime:

I have hunted dove and quail throughout CA and AZ. I don't really enjoy dove season anymore and no longer go. I have always enjoyed quail hunting but I don't have a bird dog so I no longer go quail hunting.

I have hunted mule deer, pigs, and Tule elk in CA and mule deer, antelope, and Rocky Mountain elk in WY.

I hope to do some hunting in UT now that my brother lives there.

I prefer using lever action rifles with iron sights.

DesertRose
11-20-2005, 12:55 PM
I really like wingshooting - doves especially - but we've been too busy of late to get out there, despite being able to walk right out from the house to do so!

(Quail I'm just not very good at - we don't have a gundog, and those little buggers are so sneaky - plus, we've had bad quail years here and don't like to over-use our population.)

Jonathan's the big-game hunter for us; but this year, he didn't draw a permit :Wow1: for rifle, and so is thinking of an over-counter bow permit. He won't say, but he made his own traditional longbow by hand, from yew from England (though I know his hunting longbow is wood and glass and much heavier pull).

I haven't worked up to bigger game, though I love to cook it and eat it!

Got some great recipes - dove pate, smoked venison chile, and "hunter's paella."

Suty et al - you should check out Jonathan's blog (http://www.jandrhanson.com/J-blog)

As for offending PETA types - ack, it's they who offend us. Animal rightists just aren't honest about the fact that all living entails killing, whether you get your meat yourself (the honest way) or eat vegetables and grains (and don't admit that lots of bunnies and birdies get chopped up by combines, or a mileu of pollution is produced to ship your tofu over vast distances so you don't have to eat animal protein....but I digress!)


Roseann

Suty
11-20-2005, 02:54 PM
I really enjoy bird hunting...

I have a large collection of shotguns (90% willed to me from family), but really love my vintage (turn of the century) model 12's, and also have a soft spot for my HK .45 ACP USP. One of the finest handguns ever made.
Well Thats good to know , if your ever in Tejas the first of September we will go Dove Hunt'n. One of those" I gotta friend who has this place" only this place has been great for Dove. Model 12 , I feel is one of the Best that was ever produced. I know there are more expensive but hadly none touch it for what the price was. It does me good to know you hunt. Buen Casador, Suty

Suty
11-20-2005, 03:01 PM
I also enjoy hunting. I have not bow hunted for around 8 years as I haven't the time to practice my archery anymore. I have found archery skills are much more perishable than firearms skills.

I encourage everyone who eats meat to kill and eat something at least once in their lives. Don't chastise me for hunting then go down the street and order a hamburger :chowtime:

I have hunted dove and quail throughout CA and AZ. I don't really enjoy dove season anymore and no longer go. I have always enjoyed quail hunting but I don't have a bird dog so I no longer go quail hunting.

I have hunted mule deer, pigs, and Tule elk in CA and mule deer, antelope, and Rocky Mountain elk in WY.

I hope to do some hunting in UT now that my brother lives there.

I prefer using lever action rifles with iron sights.
Cali, I too perfer the Lever Action with Iron Sights. In fact the only Rifle's I still own are a 1886 Winchester in 45/90 with a Marble Tang sight, and a 1874 Shiloh Sharps in 50-110. So, Its great to see fellow Hunters around this board. I hope to Hunt Elk in Idaho next year, but my dream is to go to Africa and Bowhunt Plains Game, Impala, Warthog etc... I may be out your way in Jan. My parents still live up in Hemet. Take Care, Tu Compa, Suty

Suty
11-20-2005, 03:16 PM
I really like wingshooting - doves especially - but we've been too busy of late to get out there, despite being able to walk right out from the house to do so!

(Quail I'm just not very good at - we don't have a gundog, and those little buggers are so sneaky - plus, we've had bad quail years here and don't like to over-use our population.)

Jonathan's the big-game hunter for us; but this year, he didn't draw a permit :Wow1: for rifle, and so is thinking of an over-counter bow permit. He won't say, but he made his own traditional longbow by hand, from yew from England (though I know his hunting longbow is wood and glass and much heavier pull).

I haven't worked up to bigger game, though I love to cook it and eat it!

Got some great recipes - dove pate, smoked venison chile, and "hunter's paella."

Suty et al - you should check out Jonathan's blog (http://www.jandrhanson.com/J-blog)

As for offending PETA types - ack, it's they who offend us. Animal rightists just aren't honest about the fact that all living entails killing, whether you get your meat yourself (the honest way) or eat vegetables and grains (and don't admit that lots of bunnies and birdies get chopped up by combines, or a mileu of pollution is produced to ship your tofu over vast distances so you don't have to eat animal protein....but I digress!)


Roseann
Roseann, Thanks for your comments. I really enjoyed Jonathans Blog, he hits the nail on the head. He should be very proud of making a Yew Longbow, it is not easy to fashion one that will really shoot. If Y'all ever make it out to Tejas in the winter let me know and I can hook you and Jonathan up with a little S.Texas Hog and Javelina Bowhunt. Since you enjoy Game Meat I will need to bring some of my Jalapeno,Cheese and Deer Summer Sausage. It's very good and I will bring some out to y'all on my next trip to Calif to visit my parents. Tu Compadre, Suty

Ursidae69
11-20-2005, 11:29 PM
I like to hunt, though I'm still waiting for my first big game kill. I don't try all that hard and just enjoy being out there. I also like to dove and quail hunt. My dad's got a really well trained German short-haired that is the best bird dog I've ever seen. Makes hunting quail that much funner.

I didn't put in for any hunts in NM this year. One of my buddies had two cow tags for elk in CO and I helped pay for that and got a bunch of meat. I've got elk to last me through 06 probably.

I'm hoping to go oryx hunting next year. I think oryx meat is about the best game meat I've ever had.

Jonathan Hanson
11-21-2005, 12:51 AM
I really enjoy bird hunting...

I have a large collection of shotguns (90% willed to me from family), but really love my vintage (turn of the century) model 12's, and also have a soft spot for my HK .45 ACP USP. One of the finest handguns ever made.

Anyone who hunts birds with a .45 has my admiration . . .

BajaTaco
11-21-2005, 01:18 AM
Anyone who hunts birds with a .45 has my admiration . . .

:jump:

calamaridog
11-21-2005, 10:57 AM
Anyone who hunts birds with a .45 has my admiration . . .

Not much meat left...

On a side note, I've taken several quail with my bow and rubber blunted arrows :hehe:

calamaridog
11-21-2005, 11:02 AM
Cali, I too perfer the Lever Action with Iron Sights. In fact the only Rifle's I still own are a 1886 Winchester in 45/90 with a Marble Tang sight, and a 1874 Shiloh Sharps in 50-110. So, Its great to see fellow Hunters around this board. I hope to Hunt Elk in Idaho next year, but my dream is to go to Africa and Bowhunt Plains Game, Impala, Warthog etc... I may be out your way in Jan. My parents still live up in Hemet. Take Care, Tu Compa, Suty

I currently have a Winchester 94 in .30-.30. It's too light for pigs and elk so I want to get a larger calibre soon.

I'm leaning towards .444 Marlin, .45-70, or .450 Marlin. Haven't decided on Winchester or Marlin yet.

If you are out this way and have some time to kill, let me know. If I'm not busy I will buy you a coffee or a :beer:

MaddBaggins
11-21-2005, 11:35 AM
If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make them outta meat!

I hunt with rifle and handgun.
I have a Ruger .270 winchester (deer mtn lion)
a custom made .338 winchester magnum (elk moose bear)
and I hunt javelina with my S&W .357 magnum revolver
I have various other guns but they aren't much good for hunting

I was out hunting white tail this weekend. I didn't kill anything but had a good time anyway.

erin
11-21-2005, 12:07 PM
Suty, if you have given up on rifle hunting and enjoy the challege of archery, I would recommend handgunning. Definitely no 200yd shots, especially if you stick with open sights. I find the stalk to be just as challenging and I feel getting acceptable accuracy is more difficult yet.
:arabia:

Scott Brady
11-21-2005, 01:05 PM
Anyone who hunts birds with a .45 has my admiration . . .

No, I save that one for the two legged creatures...

Oh, and I have a Sauer .30-06 and a Winchester lever action 30/30 for big game, though I have only been on a Javelina hunt.

BajaTaco
11-21-2005, 03:28 PM
If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make them outta meat!

I'm not sure that is a good argument for eating meat. Just try inserting the word "people" where the word "animals" currently resides within that sentence.:elkgrin:

Suty
11-21-2005, 05:05 PM
I currently have a Winchester 94 in .30-.30. It's too light for pigs and elk so I want to get a larger calibre soon.

I'm leaning towards .444 Marlin, .45-70, or .450 Marlin. Haven't decided on Winchester or Marlin yet.

If you are out this way and have some time to kill, let me know. If I'm not busy I will buy you a coffee or a :beer:
Cali, I would chose the venerable 45-70. This caliber is very good and easy to reload. It can be loaded to equal the 450 or it can be loaded for plinking. Given it's rainbow trajectory the 200+ yard shots are rare unless you really know the range. Under 200 I would take the 45-70 everytime, it's all about momentum and penetration and it has both in spades. If you don't reload you can get some mighty powerful rounds from Garrett Ammo. They have rounds that travel 2100 fps + with 415 grain Hard Cast Lead Bullets that will stop ol' Grizz in his tracks. I will take you up on the drink next time I'm out . Also, what kind of Bow are you shoot'n ?,Mr.Taker of the Quail.Take care and Hold Center, Tu Compa, Suty

Suty
11-21-2005, 05:09 PM
Suty, if you have given up on rifle hunting and enjoy the challege of archery, I would recommend handgunning. Definitely no 200yd shots, especially if you stick with open sights. I find the stalk to be just as challenging and I feel getting acceptable accuracy is more difficult yet.
:arabia:
I would'nt say I have completely given it up, but your Handgun Hunting is a good substitution for that. I will need to check that out. It's all about the stalk.....Buck Fever... Hold Center, Tu Compadres, Suty

MaddBaggins
11-21-2005, 07:33 PM
I'm not sure that is a good argument for eating meat. Just try inserting the word "people" where the word "animals" currently resides within that sentence.:elkgrin:

LOL, you're thinking of "Soylent Green". MMMM :eatchicke

Beerman
11-22-2005, 01:23 PM
Avid hunter here.


For big game, I prefer to hunt with either a muzzleloader or a bow (Sorry traditionalists, I still use a compound)

I also love to hunt birds. There is something about watching a dog you have trained do the job he loves that is just awesome.

Grouseman
12-25-2006, 05:40 PM
I really enjoy bird hunting...

I have a large collection of shotguns (90% willed to me from family), but really love my vintage (turn of the century) model 12's, and also have a soft spot for my HK .45 ACP USP. One of the finest handguns ever made.

Me too.: Actually I LOVE bird hunting. I've got 4 Britts and travel some pretty long distances to get into hot spots. About 3-4 weeks ago had a Bird hunting trip that took me appox. 3800 miles in 11 days. It took us 7 days to really get into the birds, so the last three days were great. Actually I am obessed with it.:)

"Nothing like an Upland bird on the grill, except being behind one of your dogs on point in the field."

SS

fisher205
12-25-2006, 06:34 PM
Part of the reason I still live in South Dakota. I live to far west for good pheasant hunting, but it doesn't take me long to get into birds. I have two labs, one just retired (13 yrs) and a 4 year old. I originally got dogs for hunting. Now I hunt because ( and sometimes for) the dogs. - Brad

Grouseman
12-25-2006, 10:49 PM
Part of the reason I still live in South Dakota. I live to far west for good pheasant hunting, but it doesn't take me long to get into birds. I have two labs, one just retired (13 yrs) and a 4 year old. I originally got dogs for hunting. Now I hunt because ( and sometimes for) the dogs. - Brad

Brad,

Your a lucky fellow. I'm at least 10 hours from good bird hunting. 13-16 hrs from good Pheasant hunting. Hopefully in the next few years I can change my method of making a living so I can take off a bunch of time in the fall.

SS

jim65wagon
12-27-2006, 09:47 PM
This is cool. I've used a 60# Howard Hill longbow:REOutArchery02: for about ten years now. Not much of a hunter anymore since moving to VA (more fishing) but used to do quite a bit of small game with the bow. Hit a rabbit, or a groundhog on the run with an arrow and you feel quite accomplished! And for those of you who must eat what they kill, BBQ'd groundhog is excellent!

big sky trapper
02-05-2007, 03:52 AM
Do we hunt and fish and trap????? well lets see we start up here in sept and dont finish untill mid aprill almost 7 days a week...just about the whole familly does some form of it.

Guns we have way to many to list....haha bows a few of them too. :gunt:

exploring and hunting/trapping anything more in life we really need???

robert
02-27-2007, 03:57 AM
I currently have a Winchester 94 in .30-.30. It's too light for pigs and elk so I want to get a larger calibre soon.


30-30 too light for pig? We get much larger piggies here on the east coast than those piglets people out west hunt (javelinas) and the 30-30 does just fine- I've never felt undergunned with my Winchester except when I was charged and even a minigun would have felt small then (I dropped the rifle and climbed a tree then shot him with my .357- not too hard to do when he's right below you).

Yeah, I hunt; I haven't done hardly any on the last few years though. I've still got my bow (recurve baby, never could shoot a compound accurately), a Thompson Center Hawkin 50 cal smokepole (watched Jeremiah Johnson too many times as a kid obviously), and an assortment of shotguns and rifles. I've hunted deer and hog with the .357 also (+P 158gr SJSP). Pretty much the only thing I kill anymore are plastic soda bottles and paper targets.

Did someone say .45? :peepwall: Bad picture I know.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j16/bajatacoma/45s.jpg

calamaridog
02-27-2007, 06:48 AM
Robert,

A Javelina is not a Pig. Sure, it's a mammal, but so are you.

Wild Pigs are the #1 Big Game Animal in California. More pigs are harvested each year than deer.

I've personally seen 550 lbs. boar and heard of larger ones. I've shot a 350 lbs. sow.

Shooting an animal as large as that with a .30-30 is borderline inhumane.

.30-30 is great for those little whitetail deer you all hunt and marginal for a mule deer.

With that being said, the .30-30 has killed more game in North America than perhaps any other cartridge.

robert
02-28-2007, 04:45 AM
OK, so javelinas aren't pigs- learn something new every day. I've seen them in Arizona, but never hunted them. http://www.desertusa.com/magnov97/nov_pap/du_collpecc.html
The comment about "piglets" was a joke since I must not have conveyed that. ;)

I disagree on the 30-30 being “borderline inhumane” for hogs. Looking on-line, it appears the feral hogs out west are the same size as ours- yes, we have some monsters here too (my largest was around 350 lbs too- much larger had been killed at the club so there really wasn’t any point in weighing him. I used an 8mm Mauser with Norma ammo). I have killed them with 16 gauge, 12 gauge, 50cal black powder, .308, 8mm Mauser and 30-30 (and the .357 kill) - none of the hogs knew the difference, all died. Obviously, as with shooting anything, shot placement is key. As a disclaimer, none of the shots were over 100yrds and most were much closer-there are no clear long distance shots in the swamps.

While we don’t have mule deer, we do have healthy whitetails (http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/deer/2006DeerAntlerRecords.html To add to that, we have enough of them that we have one of the longest gun seasons in the US, running from the middle of August to the end of the year with either sex hunts being common. They have practically become a pest species to farmers as well as being involved in an increasing number of traffic accidents. Deer depredation permits are pretty easy to get if you have crops.

I haven't shot any hogs since I was in high school and I haven't shot a deer in over six years.

calamaridog
02-28-2007, 05:59 PM
You'll have to forgive me for poking fun at your "little" whitetail:D I've seen a few pictures of monsters my buddy shot down south.

Most of the pigs I've seen harvested have been taken at 150 yards or more, which is a good shot with a lever gun. I've seen many taken out around 300 yards. The majority of the people I've seen using .308 and .30-06 but my buddy does use a .270. Different kind of hunting out here.

I'll say that up close, the .30-30 would be ok for pig. I went a bit far with my borderline "inhumane" comment:o

Shot placement is always key, as you have said, but a 200 lbs. hog is much tougher than a 200 lbs. deer.

The biggest problem with our wild pigs is that mountain lions don't eat them. They go for the deer of course, but ignore those hogs.

Like I said, the .30-30 has probably taken more game in NA than any other gun, but I think the average hunter would be better served with something a bit more potent.

I love lever guns, however, and enjoy the challenge of hunting with open sites. I'm hoping to pick up a .45-70 soon. There are tons of loads available from mild to wild.

robert
02-28-2007, 07:31 PM
No problem- just different hunting environments. :) I don't think you'll find many folks who would recommend the 30-30 past 150yrds and most wouldn’t recommend it past 125. My furthest shot with mine was only around 75yrds. The new Hornady Leverevolution is supposed to increase performance but I’ve never tried it nor do I know anyone who has. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=775263

The most popular rifle calibers here are probably .270, 30-06 and .308; the 7mm mag has a following too although I never felt the need for one (I like .308 and it’s always worked for me without being as heavy recoiling). While we have what the old timers call “bean field” guns (rifles designed for taking shots across large bean fields or down power lines of several hundred yards), most shots are generally less then 200yrds due to the amount of vegetation. Honestly, given the number of deer we have, there really isn’t much reason to take a really long shot and risk not making a killing shot.

If I lived out west or in the northwest/Alaska/Canada I’d probably buy a .300 Win Mag or .338. A friend of mine in Arizona has both and likes to take them out to the desert and shoot long distance targets with them. It’s even more amazing what he can do with his .50cal. target gun. :Wow1:

91xlt
03-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Fairly avid hunter. Bow & rifle for those creatures on 4 legs, handgun for those on 2. FWIW a 30-30 w170GR nosler partitions WILL most definately take hogs, deer, black bear, elk, and more. do not underestimate this round.
:elkgrin:

SOAZ
03-21-2007, 10:41 PM
Well lets see fishing; I was luckier than I knew. I got to do a lot of deep sea fishing on the parents boat out of Dana Point or Catalina. Some Hawaiian sling spear fishing over on Catalina. Now I take any chance I get to fish while out camping in a river of lake.

Guns are taboo in the OC so I started that fun when I got to AZ. I had a beebie and pellet gun since I was 6 and was excited to buy my first real gun once I moved out to AZ.
Ruger 10-22. LOVE that gun. In fact I just sighted it in at the range yesterday. I want to go and do some rabbit, coyote hunting. Within a knickel size pocket at 75 yards as long as I stay still.
AK-47 - Mostly a novelty, but it can be fun to shoot. I'm surprised by how accurate this yugoslavian knock off is. Expensive to shoot, but fun to make watermelons go boom! (I shoot paper or food only because it makes me sick how trashed the desert is looking from shooters)
My birthday present for myself is a Smith and Wesson MP 9mm hand gun. My first hand gun and I love it. Got it last Friday. I looked at them all and the MP just felt best in my hand and I'm accurate with it. With hollow points I'm not worried about not having enough fire power. The 17 in the mag and 1 in the hole capacity makes sure that if the 1st one doesn't stop them there are others on the way. Great gun! :smileeek:

Dave
03-22-2007, 03:04 AM
I'm primarily a waterfowl hunter and will go after doves a few times a year. Calling in a wad of mallards from the stratosphere and then working them all the way into the decoys is one of the most exhilarating things I've ever experienced. I don't care if I even get to shoot, just watching the birds work and respond to the call is enough for me. When it does come to shooting time, I use a Winchester 1300 3" pump. Nothing snazzy, just an idiot proof workhorse.

We had a weird season this year. Big push right before the season opened and then the weather was real warm until just before the season let out. We had plenty of ducks, but we had the same ducks all season long it seemed like. They got real wise real fast.

The hunter crouches in his blind
'Neath camouflage of every kind
And conjures up a quacking noise
To lend allure to his decoys
This grown-up man, with pluck and luck
is hoping to outwit a duck

Ogden Nash

big sky trapper
04-01-2007, 09:39 AM
That 170 grn load absolutly! Ive been playing with that load for almost tweenty year's now in a stock marlin 336. Ive cleanly taken every montana critter with it except a moose over the years.

But with that new fangled 308 marlin that due out any day, my minds a thinking awefull hard on it....(the SS is on the local shelf Im holding out for blued one)

edgear
04-22-2007, 04:29 PM
So I just shot a compound bow for the first time yesterday, and I think I'm hooked! I went with a few friends to an archery range for target shooting. Even though their bows were sized to them, I was slowly able to get the hang of it and see what it was all about. That same day, I also found out that my wife used to do competition archery when she was a kid. So this just might be a fun hobby that we can do together.

I've been an avid bird hunter since about the age of 12 - mostly dove & quail, and I've tried duck & goose a few times. At 16, I got a Cous' whitetail deer (with a rifle). But at that point, I stopped hunting big game all together, and just stuck to birds. I've always enjoyed eating game meat, and defintely don't let the meat that I hunt go to waste. 12 years later, I decided to give big game hunting another chance. About a month ago I got drawn for a rifle elk hunt this coming fall.

I think if I get back into big game hunting seriously, I'd like to go the route of bowhunting. I think it would be more my style, since I enjoy backpacking & exploring so much. The scouting & stealth aspect of it really appeals to me. I read a few bowhunting magazines yesterday and learned quite a bit in a short time. Any other advice for someone new to bowhunting, like books, classes, etc.?

grouch
04-22-2007, 05:16 PM
Well I am pretty much a bird hunter only, mosty woodcock and ruffed grouse in norther Wisconsin. Man, what a great time! These pics were two years ago in the cold rain up near the UP. The pics were post hunt, because there is too much walking through briars and other assorted rough stuff to take pics during. I am holing a pair of hard fought woodcock I got on a double. The only real flush of the day because Tali the gordon setter likes to run through the woods like smoke. She flushed stuff out of range all the time. Hearing a grouse flush and not being able to see it sucks. Not so much because you can't shoot it but you just want to SEE it. They are so beautiful and the sound they make when they take off is like distant thunder. Awesome! Woodcock are my favorite though because they are a little goofy. They have eyes near the back of their head so they can see their preditors when they are dilling the cold mud for worms. When they flush the make a peenting noise as they fly straigh up to the top of the cover then they are off like a flash, as the bounce off trees trying to get away from you. You can walk past 30 of them a day and never now it but when they do flush, they come up right at your feet. No joke, they scare the crap out our you as the ground explodes. You will almost step on the little guys. After you get one, or I should say IF you get one they are almost impossible to retreive. You need a good dog for sure because they are camoed so well. Amaising little guys. The golden is Haley, she is a treat to have in the woods because she just crashed through stuff. She will walk right over small saplings instead of around them like a normal dog just because she can. She also has incredible eyes. Tali will point them out and after you shoot one, Haley will find it, she only needs to see it go down and she WILL get it. Forgive me for the nasty camo clothes, I normally were proper bird garb but it just got done raining and it was the only thing I had that was water proof.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/7wt/018_32.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/7wt/015_29.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/7wt/hunt.jpg

grouch
04-22-2007, 05:29 PM
"Nothing like an Upland bird on the grill, except being behind one of your dogs on point in the field."

Ain't that the truth? When we get back to the cottage, we get ready for the real fun. We start an oak fire in the pit, put some corn and apples out for the deer, go inside get cleaned up and put on dry clothes then grab a beer (or six), head out side and put the grouse and woodcock along with some potatoes in foil and maybe a steak or two on a grate that is lowered over the oak coals. Generally after it gets dark it will start to slightly mist or lightly snow as we sit by the fire, watching the deer build up enough courage to come and eat an appple or too. There is always a bat that flies tight circles asround the old rickety light pole eating his dinner. We will stay out there until we run out of beer, food or just too damn cold. The dogs have long been fast alseep after working hard all day, you have to wake them up just to give them a peice of grouse or steak.

sammy
04-25-2007, 02:34 AM
Hello I am new to the forum but I love to hunt and fish. I love hunting moose,caribou, ducks but best of all bird hunting over setters. Its a great excuse to travel wild country afoot. I enjoy getting to the backcountry by truck and boat and then getting out and go on a walkabout with a gun and my dogs. Nothing makes me happier.
regards Dan

Scott Brady
04-25-2007, 02:38 AM
I look forward to the day that I can watch a trained dog hunt and a falcon hunt. Maybe both at the same time. It must be an incredible sight.

For me, I want a freezer full of Elk...

edgear
04-25-2007, 02:54 AM
For me, I want a freezer full of Elk...
If you help me haul mine out this fall, I might share....
:steak: