Building an expedition-worthy 06 Tacoma

[ArchaeoTaco]

I’ve been lurking for the past few months and finally decided to ask for some help in building up my DC 06 Tacoma for expedition use. I thought I'd post here after reading through some of the modification threads that make me green with envy :drool:

Wheeling and camping are a must, but I also need my truck for archaeological expeditions. I’m an archaeologist living in Colorado and often need to access remote mountain terrain for surveys and excavations. I finally broke down and bought a Tacoma off-road package, and now I need to start modifying it.

Here are my priorities:

1. Storage space for crew and tools. I usually drive between 2-5 people into the survey area, and bring tools like trowels, shovels, rebars. The double cab takes care of the people, so I need a waterproof area for tools. I was thinking about a camper shell, but I’m leaning towards a simple OEM storage box instead. There’s not enough room in the 5’ bed for camping anyway.

2. Ability to set up and break down camp quickly. I’ve got a backpacking tent, but I need something quicker and roomier. I’m thinking a rooftop tent is in order.

3. A rack system to put the rooftop tent, extra gear, and recreational stuff like bikes, snowboards, etc. TacoDoc’s rack system is friggin’ sweet, and I’m leaning heavily towards something like this.

4. A good navigation system is a must. I’ve got handheld equipment for the field, but I need something mounted on the dash for re-evaluating sites with recorded UTM’s.

5. Offroading essentials toolkit: high lift jack, ladders, etc.

I need all of the above by the spring when the snowmelt means I’m back in the field instead of the office writing up reports.

Later down the road, I’m considering:

6. More protection: rock sliders, front and rear bumpers

7. Winch

8. Better wheels, tires, suspension

9. Everything else necessary to join you guys on expeditions.


The only modification I've made so far is a Yakima roof rack (salvaged from my previous ride). Here it is, in its current state of tabula rasa:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/frontcorner-smudged.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/side.jpg

[BajaTaco]

Welcome to ExPo!

This is so cool... we now have a resident archaeologist here :jumping:

I love the truck and it sounds like you have some solid ideas. Unfortunately, I am pressed for time at the moment, but I will come back to visit the thread. I'm sure you will get some great feedback from other members too.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Thanks for the warm welcome BT! I've frequented your website a ton, and it will be a valuable resource in the months to come.

I'm hoping to make this one better than my previous ride:

:26_16_2:

[Ursidae69]

Here are my priorities:

1. Storage space for crew and tools. I usually drive between 2-5 people into the survey area, and bring tools like trowels, shovels, rebars. The double cab takes care of the people, so I need a waterproof area for tools. I was thinking about a camper shell, but I’m leaning towards a simple OEM storage box instead. There’s not enough room in the 5’ bed for camping anyway.


I am good friends with several archaeologists and sometimes go in the field with them, and gosh, you guys need a lot of stuff! :sombrero:

Seriously though, the setup Tacodoc has is really coming together nicely for your style truck and would work great for what you do.

Nice looking truck and welcome to ExPo. :archaeolo

[jim65wagon]

First off, welcome to the club:clapsmile . Second, whatcha diggin' for? and do you take on inexperienced help in the summers? Third, ditch the tires now. The Rugged Trails are in no way rugged, how they came by that name I'll never know, but they will let you down.
1. Tires
2. Winch
3. Skidplates/sliders
Then the rack, tent, etc. Of, course I'm one to talk since I still don't have a decent skidplate or sliders or a winch, but they are coming (eventually).

BTW, love the ride.

[crawler#976]

Welcome to the site!

Sliders:

For an '05 at a great price: http://stubbswelding.com/rocksliders.htm

I had the opportunity to work with Richard on the first set of '05 sliders he built - I did the measuring and some of the design work for him. Ours are different than 99.9% of them on the road - I used 1/8" diamond plate to fill all the gaps between the bars...took a long time and a lot of wire, and I had to drive a 3/4T big block GMC truck on'm to straighten them after all the warping from adding the plating. My personal prefference is for the kickout style if you plan on heavy use - just that little bit can make the difference between crunching a bed side or not. The sliders below are the straight style, and since this pic was taken, I've relocated them 2" closer to the body. we origanally planned for them to be 2" off the furthest point from the door, but we found that was too far away for easy access.

Tire's:

265/75-16 (roughly a 10.5" wide x 32.4" tall tire) will clear in stock trim with no problems. If you change rims, they must have the same offset, or a lift and trimming will be required. Most tires offered in that size are much "tougher" than the stock BFG's. The stock tires are actually a P rated tire vs. an LT...

Lift:

I chose to go with the DeMello Stage 1 (Donahoe 2.5" coilovers with Deave add-a-leafs) for the time being. That netted roughly the two inches of lift needed to clear the GoodYear 265/75-16's MT/R's on MB Rocker's (see the paraghraph above about changing rims...)

Shell:

Can't call it a camper because it's only a couple feet short for a sleeping area... We got a Lear to add some dry, lockable storage space. The composite bed has a lot of areas that I haven't even tried to seal...so it's not completely dry.

Onboard Air:

I got a Viair 400P - the portable unit so it can used in muiltiple rigs. I even take it with me in the beater that has a 20Lb CO2 tank - it's "free" air vs. roughly a buck tire for the tank.

I also had the exhaust re-routed from under the t'case to a higher crossover - the way it should have come from the factory...see the pic below. the install included going to a 70 series FlowMaster - gotta have a nice mellow sounding muffler.

Easy mods on the new Taco include what we used to call the "grey wire" mod. It's a bit more involved than the method used on the early Tacos, but achieves the same results, being able to use the rear locker in 2x4, 4x4 hi, or 4low. It's very, very handy to be able to hit the button and have the rear locked to avoid wheel spin - saves tires and the trail...

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showpost.php?p=351014&postcount=92


Mark

[ArchaeoTaco]

I am good friends with several archaeologists and sometimes go in the field with them, and gosh, you guys need a lot of stuff! :sombrero:


Ha, archaeologists are packrats by nature :D

I agree about TacoDoc's ride - I've read through that entire thread about 10 times.

[ArchaeoTaco]

First off, welcome to the club:clapsmile . Second, whatcha diggin' for? and do you take on inexperienced help in the summers? Third, ditch the tires now. The Rugged Trails are in no way rugged, how they came by that name I'll never know, but they will let you down.
1. Tires
2. Winch
3. Skidplates/sliders
Then the rack, tent, etc. Of, course I'm one to talk since I still don't have a decent skidplate or sliders or a winch, but they are coming (eventually).

BTW, love the ride.

Thanks! I just finished a dig at a prehistoric site in the city of Westminster. Stone tools and bison bones - pretty cool stuff. But my vehicle will mostly be used to access remote lands in the mountains (usually BLM land) for surveys. And I'm usually looking for surveyors in the summer :)

I haven't heard anything good about the rugged trail tires. But do you think they will get me by for about 25,000 miles? My biggest concern is getting out of a trail after it starts raining and things get muddy. Any suggestions on making these tires work (ladders maybe)? Because buying a new set of tires would blow my budget for a rooftop tent. And that would mean back to cold tent poles and soggy floor tarps.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Welcome to the site!

Sliders:

For an '05 at a great price: http://stubbswelding.com/rocksliders.htm

I had the opportunity to work with Richard on the first set of '05 sliders he built - I did the measuring and some of the design work for him. Ours are different than 99.9% of them on the road - I used 1/8" diamond plate to fill all the gaps between the bars...took a long time and a lot of wire, and I had to drive a 3/4T big block GMC truck on'm to straighten them after all the warping from adding the plating. My personal prefference is for the kickout style if you plan on heavy use - just that little bit can make the difference between crunching a bed side or not. The sliders below are the straight style, and since this pic was taken, I've relocated them 2" closer to the body. we origanally planned for them to be 2" off the furthest point from the door, but we found that was too far away for easy access.

Tire's:

265/75-16 (roughly a 10.5" wide x 32.4" tall tire) will clear in stock trim with no problems. If you change rims, they must have the same offset, or a lift and trimming will be required. Most tires offered in that size are much "tougher" than the stock BFG's. The stock tires are actually a P rated tire vs. an LT...

Lift:

I chose to go with the DeMello Stage 1 (Donahoe 2.5" coilovers with Deave add-a-leafs) for the time being. That netted roughly the two inches of lift needed to clear the GoodYear 265/75-16's MT/R's on MB Rocker's (see the paraghraph above about changing rims...)

Shell:

Can't call it a camper because it's only a couple feet short for a sleeping area... We got a Lear to add some dry, lockable storage space. The composite bed has a lot of areas that I haven't even tried to seal...so it's not completely dry.

Onboard Air:

I got a Viair 400P - the portable unit so it can used in muiltiple rigs. I even take it with me in the beater that has a 20Lb CO2 tank - it's "free" air vs. roughly a buck tire for the tank.

I also had the exhaust re-routed from under the t'case to a higher crossover - the way it should have come from the factory...see the pic below. the install included going to a 70 series FlowMaster - gotta have a nice mellow sounding muffler.

Easy mods on the new Taco include what we used to call the "grey wire" mod. It's a bit more involved than the method used on the early Tacos, but achieves the same results, being able to use the rear locker in 2x4, 4x4 hi, or 4low. It's very, very handy to be able to hit the button and have the rear locked to avoid wheel spin - saves tires and the trail...

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showpost.php?p=351014&postcount=92


Mark

Awesome information! Those are some great prices on the sliders - I might have to move those up in my priority list.

And that mod for the rear locker is great. That might have to be my first modification.

[Ursidae69]

Thanks! I just finished a dig at a prehistoric site in the city of Westminster. Stone tools and bison bones - pretty cool stuff. But my vehicle will mostly be used to access remote lands in the mountains (usually BLM land) for surveys.

I haven't heard anything good about the rugged trail tires. But do you think they will get me by for about 25,000 miles? My biggest concern is getting out of a trail after it starts raining and things get muddy. Any suggestions on making these tires work (ladders maybe)? Because buying a new set of tires would blow my budget for a rooftop tent. And that would mean back to cold tent poles and soggy floor tarps.

You know, honestly, I was not impressed with the rugged trails at all. I used them once on a wet, snowy deer hunting trip and I was not happy. Of all the list of things to do, IMO, tires should rank pretty high. Good rubber and good driving will keep you out of most trouble that might require winches, recovery gear, sliders, skid plates, etc. I sold mine rugged trails in the ThriftyNickel for 250.00 after 5k miles to recoop some of my expense. If you do keep them for a while, just go easy on them and carry a tire puncture kit like this one (http://www.safetyseal.com/store/offroad.htm). Don't forget the extra weight of your tools and mods will be a lot for those tires. Looking forward to hearing about your build.

[ArchaeoTaco]

You know, honestly, I was not impressed with the rugged trails at all. I used them once on a wet, snowy deer hunting trip and I was not happy. Of all the list of things to do, IMO, tires should rank pretty high. Good rubber and good driving will keep you out of most trouble that might require winches, recovery gear, sliders, skid plates, etc. I sold mine rugged trails in the ThriftyNickel for 250.00 after 5k miles to recoop some of my expense. If you do keep them for a while, just go easy on them and carry a tire puncture kit like this one (http://www.safetyseal.com/store/offroad.htm). Don't forget the extra weight of your tools and mods will be a lot for those tires. Looking forward to hearing about your build.

Wow, I just checked out your website. Very nice! If I could sell my rugged trails for $250 and buy some Maxxis Bighorn MT's for only $525, it sounds like something I couldn't afford not to do.

So you think this one would be a good choice for my truck: LT265/75R16 D/8PR ?
http://www.maxxis.com/products/automotive/product_detail.asp?id=282

[devinsixtyseven]

Excellent! My old man's an archeologist, too.

It's hard to beat TacoDoc's setup, looking at your list.

How about a between the rails standard toolbox--aluminum or plastic--and a CanBack or similar on top? The toolbox will still be accessable, the CanBack is waterproof enough (I've been running one for about five years now, leak-free), and allows access to the entire bed from pretty much any angle. You used to be able to get the fabric separate from the frame, I don't know if that's possible at the moment...the frame is not intended to support much weight, but a clever guy could put a proper frame underneath and a tent on top, or DIY the entire thing if you have access to a sewing machine.

How self supporting and/or sleek do you want to run? Ever plan on taking bikes plus rooftop tent plus toolbox to a site? Bikes can fit under a standard cap if they're attached via the fork at bed level, you might need a bed extender or other means of holding the tailgate open if you plan on carrying bikes under a rack or cap in addition to the toolbox. I've seen quite a few mounts on top of toolboxes, but the handlebars sit over the cab, and you can't open the toolbox without moving the bikes. In my own truck (a Tundra, very similar bed size to an access cab 05+ Taco), I've found two bikes fit very well at the front of the bed, with a foot or two of space toward the tailgate and plenty of room for spare tires, tools and other things at the sides. Just a guess, but you might be able to fit a pair of bikes in the center, with a couple triangular toolboxes in the front corners (I forget who makes them...probably a few places), then set the bikes at an angle pointing toward the rear corners. Might even work with the tailgate up, and you'd have space in the rear center of the bed for more storage.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Hey Sean! (It's me, John) We keep missing each other on the slopes. I've had some killer rides over the past couple of weekends. We've got to meet up soon...

Great suggestions. I've wanted a Can-Back for several years now after seeing one on a sweet customized tacoma in college. I would get one in a heartbeat if my bed was long enough to sleep in. But I've pretty much ruled it out, since I could use a standard toolbox to protect the important stuff from the elements, and then create an expedition rack to hold up the rooftop tent, jerry cans, shovels, etc. A well-made one just seems sturdier to me than the canback frame. And a customized frame under the canback would be a lot more $$ in the long run.

I'd like to keep the above-the-roof portions pretty sleek. For a tent, I was thinking a Maggiolina (http://www.loftyshelters.com/MaggAdventureENG.htm)because of its sleek design and fiberglass cover. They're some of the most expensive, though.

The Technitop (http://www.safaritrailers.com/index.cfm?action=print&pageid=13)is also appealing because of the hard shell, plus it's a fold-out, so it would save some space up top for other storage.

I haven't figured-out the bike situation yet. There is already a spot for the front forks in the front of the bed, but this will soon be covered with the toolbox. Another option is to put a fork attachment on top of the toolbox, so long as there is a gap in the expedition rack where the handlebars could fit. A third option is to put the bikes on top of the rooftop tent, if I got a Maggiolina:

http://www.loftyshelters.com/images/MaggiolinaAdventure/movie.gif




Excellent! My old man's an archeologist, too.

It's hard to beat TacoDoc's setup, looking at your list.

How about a between the rails standard toolbox--aluminum or plastic--and a CanBack or similar on top? The toolbox will still be accessable, the CanBack is waterproof enough (I've been running one for about five years now, leak-free), and allows access to the entire bed from pretty much any angle. You used to be able to get the fabric separate from the frame, I don't know if that's possible at the moment...the frame is not intended to support much weight, but a clever guy could put a proper frame underneath and a tent on top, or DIY the entire thing if you have access to a sewing machine.

How self supporting and/or sleek do you want to run? Ever plan on taking bikes plus rooftop tent plus toolbox to a site? Bikes can fit under a standard cap if they're attached via the fork at bed level, you might need a bed extender or other means of holding the tailgate open if you plan on carrying bikes under a rack or cap in addition to the toolbox. I've seen quite a few mounts on top of toolboxes, but the handlebars sit over the cab, and you can't open the toolbox without moving the bikes. In my own truck (a Tundra, very similar bed size to an access cab 05+ Taco), I've found two bikes fit very well at the front of the bed, with a foot or two of space toward the tailgate and plenty of room for spare tires, tools and other things at the sides. Just a guess, but you might be able to fit a pair of bikes in the center, with a couple triangular toolboxes in the front corners (I forget who makes them...probably a few places), then set the bikes at an angle pointing toward the rear corners. Might even work with the tailgate up, and you'd have space in the rear center of the bed for more storage.

[Ursidae69]

Wow, I just checked out your website. Very nice! If I could sell my rugged trails for $250 and buy some Maxxis Bighorn MT's for only $525, it sounds like something I couldn't afford not to do.

So you think this one would be a good choice for my truck: LT265/75R16 D/8PR ?
http://www.maxxis.com/products/automotive/product_detail.asp?id=282

Thanks for the comments on my site. :) I got lucky with my price and Maxxis are hard to find. I'd check to see if you have any Maxxis dealers in your area and see what they are going for. They are sometimes on Ebay. I need to go measure my tread depth and see how fast mine are wearing.

[devinsixtyseven]

Hey Sean! (It's me, John) We keep missing each other on the slopes. I've had some killer rides over the past couple of weekends. We've got to meet up soon...:beer::beer: How you doin'! :D I been so busy lately...and last weekend we went to Moab. We're going up Thursday to the Stone and Saturday to WP...call me if you want to come with either day.

I'm looking at the Technitop myself for the same reasons. The M is pretty expensive, but really nice.

Check out the "Locking Blockhead" mounts from...uh...I don't remember the manufacturer, but most places are willing to key them identical, so one key will open every lock, and you get two keys with each block. I have an extra sitting around, and three mounted on my own in-bed rack (not installed at the moment), if you want to check them out in person one of these days.

Your build is definately worth a chat with the crew at Offroad Solutions...they're great to work with and build some phenomenal products--303 278 6267. I asked them about some similar stuff the other day, they said sketch it out, bring it in and talk it over.

There's another option you could look at, I don't know if it would be as convenient tho. You could put the rooftop tent right over the bed like the ExPo Frontier build, with a pivot at the front so you can raise it on a pair of gas assist pistons like a tonneau cover. Knowing all the stuff my dad throws in his bed, I don't know if it would work, but it would be easier to get at the bikes. A copy of AutoCAD, Solidworks or BendTech might help you lay things out, and it sounds goofy but cardboard tubes of the sort wrapping paper comes in, or PVC pipe, is a cheap & easy way to lay it out on the truck.

I had no idea there was anything interesting in Westminster...you'll have to tell me over a beer sometime, I'm sure my dad would think it's cool as well. He's been working Alaskan archeology for the last 30-some years, my parents used to bring my sister and I on digs when we were kids.

[jim65wagon]

I hate to harp on the tire issue, but...you can not afford not to switch. My example: 03 Tundra purchased in Sept of 02, first winter snow of maybe 2-3" had to use 4wd to get out of my driveway! After 15,000 miles and 3, yes 3 not-so-much-fun 360's in wet weather; (how's that for luck no damage on each one!) I switched to AT KO's and have been quite happy for many many miles now. Switch to anything.

[ArchaeoTaco]

I hate to harp on the tire issue, but...you can not afford not to switch. My example: 03 Tundra purchased in Sept of 02, first winter snow of maybe 2-3" had to use 4wd to get out of my driveway! After 15,000 miles and 3, yes 3 not-so-much-fun 360's in wet weather; (how's that for luck no damage on each one!) I switched to AT KO's and have been quite happy for many many miles now. Switch to anything.

You've convinced me. I was wondering why I couldn't get any traction on all this snow :smilies27

I'll see what I can come up with. The Maxxis Bighorn MT's sound great for the price. I'll see if any local dealers have them, because I can't find anything on Ebay right now.

If those don't work out, any other tire suggestions (anyone)?

Thanks,

John

[Ursidae69]

If those don't work out, any other tire suggestions (anyone)?



I've had good luck with BFG KOs or Yokohama Geolander ATs

[crawler#976]

We were lucky to sell the stock tires for $100.00 - and they were brand new, less than 300 miles on'm. I ordered a set of GoodYear MT/R's 265/75-16's the afternoon we bought the truck, and it took a week to get them in. We netted a whopping $50.00 outta the tires after paying for a months worth of adds, and I ended up coming down from $250.00 just to get'm out of the garage.

The attached pictures shows the hieght difference between a stock TRD Sport and Tami's (I only get to drive it when it need balancing/rotate - today's the day...) Silver '05 TRD DC. The 2" lift and taller tires don't make a huge difference, but it's noticable.

[ArchaeoTaco]

:beer::beer: How you doin'! :D I been so busy lately...and last weekend we went to Moab. We're going up Thursday to the Stone and Saturday to WP...call me if you want to come with either day.

I'm looking at the Technitop myself for the same reasons. The M is pretty expensive, but really nice.

Check out the "Locking Blockhead" mounts from...uh...I don't remember the manufacturer, but most places are willing to key them identical, so one key will open every lock, and you get two keys with each block. I have an extra sitting around, and three mounted on my own in-bed rack (not installed at the moment), if you want to check them out in person one of these days.

Your build is definately worth a chat with the crew at Offroad Solutions...they're great to work with and build some phenomenal products--303 278 6267. I asked them about some similar stuff the other day, they said sketch it out, bring it in and talk it over.

There's another option you could look at, I don't know if it would be as convenient tho. You could put the rooftop tent right over the bed like the ExPo Frontier build, with a pivot at the front so you can raise it on a pair of gas assist pistons like a tonneau cover. Knowing all the stuff my dad throws in his bed, I don't know if it would work, but it would be easier to get at the bikes. A copy of AutoCAD, Solidworks or BendTech might help you lay things out, and it sounds goofy but cardboard tubes of the sort wrapping paper comes in, or PVC pipe, is a cheap & easy way to lay it out on the truck.

I had no idea there was anything interesting in Westminster...you'll have to tell me over a beer sometime, I'm sure my dad would think it's cool as well. He's been working Alaskan archeology for the last 30-some years, my parents used to bring my sister and I on digs when we were kids.

You've been busy! I might join you thursday at Keystone. My friends went night riding there last saturday and said it was great.

That's a cool idea with the pistons like a tonneau cover for the tent. That'd be sweet. But I think it would be more practical to put the tent a little higher for storage of bulky items in the bed. My dogs need to ride back there sometimes too.

Good idea on the CAD drawing too. I've got it on my computer here at the office, but I work with ArcGIS, so CAD is foreign to me. I did start a quick and dirty conceptual design last night though, and I figured-out the bike situation. I'll finish it up and throw it on here for some feedback...

[ArchaeoTaco]

Alright, here is the drawing I came up with for my rack idea:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/ExpeditionRackConceptualDesign-b.jpg

It needs to be sturdy enough to hold the rooftop tent and other supplies. Since I already have a Yakima rack on the roof, I could get a storage bin attachment, and the bikes can go on top of that.

I like the lower design of the expedition rack, but it will probably need to be higher to accomodate the lid of the toolbox when it is open. Here's a picture of TacoDoc's toolbox with an open lid, which looks like it comes up above the roof a good eight inches:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/devildoc25/100_0537.jpg

I also like the idea of a rear storage bin on the rack itself to store other gear.

What do you guys think?

[TACODOC]

Alright, here is the drawing I came up with for my rack idea:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/ExpeditionRackConceptualDesign-b.jpg

It needs to be sturdy enough to hold the rooftop tent and other supplies. Since I already have a Yakima rack on the roof, I could get a storage bin attachment, and the bikes can go on top of that.

I like the lower design of the expedition rack, but it will probably need to be higher to accomodate the lid of the toolbox when it is open. Here's a picture of TacoDoc's toolbox with an open lid, which looks like it comes up above the roof a good eight inches:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/devildoc25/100_0537.jpg

I also like the idea of a rear storage bin on the rack itself to store other gear.

What do you guys think?

Welcome to ExPo!!!

I like your idea, you're right about the toolbox. If you want it to open most of the way at least you'll have to plan for it and measure it out. Making a rack that fits and works well is a balancing act, there will be compromises.

My box hits the rack when fully open, it's opening radius is probably reduced by 1 inch. My rack height was determined by the Eezi-Awn 1600's dimensions, I could have gone lower with the rack with a 1400 but someone would have been sleeping elsewhere... we needed the sleeping room.

A couple of advantages to going roof height with the rack: The 3rd brake light is not impeded, and rearward visibility is near stock - I can see very well when backing up in town or turning around on a trail. It also allowed me more storage room with the basket, and mounts for lights and antennas.

Here are some pics to illustrate the toolbox lid and rack clearance.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/devildoc25/100_1100.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/devildoc25/100_1099.jpg

As an alternative to your rear basket (which could reduce rearward visibility) you might consider a cross bed storage basket. Pasquale (DesertDude) has a great setup for this that he uses that carries his spare, hi-lift, and a couple of boxes. I am using his type of setup, it will be added during phase 2 of my rack/bed storage project.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Welcome to ExPo!!!

I like your idea, you're right about the toolbox. If you want it to open most of the way at least you'll have to plan for it and measure it out. Making a rack that fits and works well is a balancing act, there will be compromises.

My box hits the rack when fully open, it's opening radius is probably reduced by 1 inch. My rack height was determined by the Eezi-Awn 1600's dimensions, I could have gone lower with the rack with a 1400 but someone would have been sleeping elsewhere... we needed the sleeping room.

A couple of advantages to going roof height with the rack: The 3rd brake light is not impeded, and rearward visibility is near stock - I can see very well when backing up in town or turning around on a trail. It also allowed me more storage room with the basket, and mounts for lights and antennas, I'll post pics to illustrate all this soon...

As an alternative to your rear basket (which could reduce rearward visibility) you might consider a cross bed storage basket. Pasquale (DesertDude) has a great setup for this that he uses that carries his spare, hi-lift, and a couple of boxes. I am using his type of setup, it will be added during phase 2 of my rack/bed storage project.

Thanks for the warm welcome TacoDoc!

Great suggestions; that rear storage bin would definitely create a huge blindspot, which I hadn't considered. I've been eyeing Pasquale's setup for a while :drool:, but I can't quite figure out what he's got going on in the bed. I can sort of see it in this picture:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pasqualesexpeditionrack-1.jpg

I'll be looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

Another option I'm considering down the road is putting the spare tire on the back above a customized rear bumper with a swingout over the tailgate. This would free up a lot of room in the bed.

Time to tweak the drawing to see what other configurations will look like...

[ArchaeoTaco]

Alright, you guys convinced me to take the plunge for new tires first and foremost.

I found a dealer in denver with Maxxis Bighorn MT's in stock at a good price:

http://www.maxxis.com/intellicms/_exec/ecommerce_thumbnail.aspx?maxmode=true&noresizeiffit=false&dozoom=false&width=300&height=300&url=/temp/intellicms.modules.ecommerce/product_images//MT-762_bighorn_radia_0.jpg

The rugged trail tires that I'm replacing are 265/70-16; can I go up to 265/75-16 without rubbing the stock trim?

[jnelson4x4taco]

if you dont mind me asking, where did you find the tires at and what was the price. Im in denver too and i am lookin at those tires as well. thanks

[offroad_nomad]

Have you read the three part write-up in Offroad Adventures Magazine (http://www.oramagazine.com/currentIssue/index.html) titled "Project Maya Hunter?"

Project Maya Hunter: Part One (http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssues/0501-issue/050101t-maya-hunter.html)

Project Maya Hunter: Part Two (http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssues/0502-issue/050201t-maya-hunter.html)

Project Maya Hunter: Part Three (http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssues/0503-issue/050301t-maya-hunter.html)

http://www.oramagazine.com/images/0503-mar/050301t-maya-hunter/08photo00.jpg

[Scott Brady]

Wheeling and camping are a must, but I also need my truck for archaeological expeditions.


Fantastic! Welcome to the forum :)

We will have to plan an expedition in Colorado! Make it the ExPo Archaeologic Expedition 2007 :archaeolo

[crawler#976]

The rugged trail tires that I'm replacing are 265/70-16; can I go up to 265/75-16 without rubbing the stock trim?


:sombrero:


http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53005&postcount=19

[ArchaeoTaco]

:sombrero:


http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53005&postcount=19

Ha - sorry 'bout the repeat. I got confused on what you wrote about a 2-inch lift, thiking that you added a lift before the tires.

Thanks for the info, Crawler!

[ArchaeoTaco]

Fantastic! Welcome to the forum :)

We will have to plan an expedition in Colorado! Make it the ExPo Archaeologic Expedition 2007 :archaeolo


Sounds good, and thanks for the welcome! I've got a ways to go before getting my ride up to par with you guys, but I'll try to tag along :D

[ArchaeoTaco]

Have you read the three part write-up in Offroad Adventures Magazine (http://www.oramagazine.com/currentIssue/index.html) titled "Project Maya Hunter?"

Project Maya Hunter: Part One (http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssues/0501-issue/050101t-maya-hunter.html)

Project Maya Hunter: Part Two (http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssues/0502-issue/050201t-maya-hunter.html)

Project Maya Hunter: Part Three (http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssues/0503-issue/050301t-maya-hunter.html)

http://www.oramagazine.com/images/0503-mar/050301t-maya-hunter/08photo00.jpg

What a brilliant idea! Get a bunch of sponsors to donate the ultimate expedition vehicle for an archaeological dig. Hmm, the mental gears are grinding...

Thanks for the links - killer articles!

[ArchaeoTaco]

Alright, after some sage advice from all of you, I rearranged my priorities and sprung for a new set of tires. I found a local dealer who with some Maxxis Bighorn MT's in stock, and was able to sell my BFGoodrich Rugged Trail tires for $250.

I can't wait to try out these bad boys on a muddy trail! They certainly look the part:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/newtires1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/newtires3.jpg

My ride to work today along I-25 was a lot louder with more swerves:victory:

[ArchaeoTaco]

if you dont mind me asking, where did you find the tires at and what was the price. Im in denver too and i am lookin at those tires as well. thanks

I found three dealers with these tires in stock around this area. The cheapest was at Elder Auto in Denver (303.756.2886), for $140/tire. If you're going to get them installed, though, I'd go with Ron's Tire in Englewood (303.781.2133). They quoted me about the same price for the tires ($140.27 each), but they have better prices for installation and balancing.

[Lost Canadian]

ArchaeoTaco welcome. It's nice to see another 05+ being built for expe. travel. I'll be sure to keep an eye on your rack idea's. I'm currently talking with a local fab company about getting a rack built myself. I have to meet with the design engineer next week and go over what I want so I'm frantically scouring the net for idea's. www.johnduff.ca will be building the rack. Anyway I look forward to your build up.

[Ursidae69]

Holy cow, those tires look awesome and glad to hear that you got 250 for the old ones, that was fast work! :clapsmile

[ArchaeoTaco]

ArchaeoTaco welcome. It's nice to see another 05+ being built for expe. travel. I'll be sure to keep an eye on your rack idea's. I'm currently talking with a local fab company about getting a rack built myself. I have to meet with the design engineer next week and go over what I want so I'm frantically scouring the net for idea's. www.johnduff.ca will be building the rack. Anyway I look forward to your build up.

Thanks! Good luck on your custom rack. Here are some of the folks on this forum who have rack systems that I'm using for inspiration:

Mark's setup:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6565.jpg

TacoDoc's setup:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/tacodocsexpeditionrack-2.jpg

Pasquale's setup:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pasqualesexpeditionrack-4.jpg

Cell4soul's setup:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/cell4soulexpeditionrack-1.jpg

[ArchaeoTaco]

Holy cow, those tires look awesome and glad to hear that you got 250 for the old ones, that was fast work! :clapsmile

:beer: Thanks! :beer:

I put an ad up on Craigslist yesterday, and immediately got about a dozen calls. Shoulda asked $300 :p

[jnelson4x4taco]

thanks for the reply on tire price, those sure look good on your truck. hopefully ill be able to save my pennies and get a set!!

[TACODOC]

I like those tires alot!

[ArchaeoTaco]

I like those tires alot!

Thanks! They certainly help out in the soft snow that has fallen over the weekend. On packed snow/ice, I don't notice any difference in traction over my old ones, which is good, because I thought I'd have reduced traction with MT's.

Can't wait to get them offroad!

[ArchaeoTaco]

Does anyone know how much weight I can put on the truck before I need to upgrade the suspension and start considering a lift?

E.g., if I put on a new front bumper, toolbox, bed rack, rooftop tent, and load it down with a couple hundred pounds of gear, am I asking for trouble?

It would be nice to have the camping situation (i.e., rooftop tent) completed before spring/summer expeditions, but I want to make sure I'm proceeding correctly, and if I need to put that money towards better suspension/lift first, then so be it.

[jim65wagon]

Personally, now that you've gotten the tire situation handled I think you can safely and reliably get where you want to go and back without a lot of drama. My way of saying the Toyota comes with an excellent stock suspension and you can probably begin you camping list...adding the front bumper and winch may change that though, you may need to at least do the coilovers to counteract the added weight to the nose. Unless those tires rub you shouldn't need to lift; or trim wheelwells. BTW you wouldn't be the first on this site that runs close to max GVW. We all seem to weigh a lot on here!:cow: :chowtime:

[ArchaeoTaco]

Put in my order yesterday with Richard at Stubbs welding for some sliders:

http://www.stubbswelding.com/newsko.jpg

Should be here late next week :box:

[BajaTaco]

Does anyone know how much weight I can put on the truck before I need to upgrade the suspension and start considering a lift?

E.g., if I put on a new front bumper, toolbox, bed rack, rooftop tent, and load it down with a couple hundred pounds of gear, am I asking for trouble?

It would be nice to have the camping situation (i.e., rooftop tent) completed before spring/summer expeditions, but I want to make sure I'm proceeding correctly, and if I need to put that money towards better suspension/lift first, then so be it.

I think if you are adding rock sliders, all of the camping equipment, and a winch bumper, you will end up with an upgraded suspension, be it now or later. I don't think the stock suspension will be up to the task in the long-term. There are two ways you can go:

1. Add all of the weight on the stock susp. and just take it easy and be careful with the driving. Document all of the differences in ride height and GVW as you go ("before" & "after" measurements). After you are all complete with adding weight, determine your gross weight and how much lift you need, and place an order for the suspension accordingly.

2. Draw up a list of modifications you plan to make, and estimate what the weight will end up being. Weigh your truck now, as-is, and then provide all of these numbers to your suspension specialist of choice, along with the desired amount of lift, and get the suspension ordered and installed ahead of all of the weight increases. I would recommend adjustable coilovers for the front, so that you can make fine adjustments to the ride height as necessary. For the rear, you can make up some adjustment in ride height with shackle length if you need to, or even small spring-steel spacers on the bottom of the leaf packs.

[devinsixtyseven]

Anything over 1/4 your recommended payload as a constant load (rack, sliders, skids, etc) and I bet you'll find it's time to look at stiffer springs. That's a slippery number and really an educated guess but ya gotta keep in mind that Toyota has been building suspensions for unloaded US street use for a while now, and while they may rate your truck with a little over 1/4T working load (max IIRC is 1400#ish, working load is half that), you'll be all over the bump stops with 700# in the truck offroad. I was all over the stops with an unloaded truck and stock suspension, now with stiffer springs and the load I carry I can still flex to the stops but my butt isn't dragging :p. You can get by with stock suspension and heavy loads, but your capability offroad will suffer.

When you're adding tube, here's a quick rule of thumb. Thicker walls means the tube is less likely to deform or crush from a point load--good for sliders and other body protection. Larger diameter means stiffer tube, so you can drop the wall thickness if it's not body protection...for example a rack. You'll find there are some combinations where you can use a large diameter thinwall tube and it will be stronger as well as lighter than a narrow tube with a thick wall.

Basically, diameter has more effect on strength and stiffness than wall thickness, so if you choose the right stuff you can keep the constant load down and save space for steak and beer.

Something else to consider when weighting the truck is keep as much as you can in front of, or centered over, the rear axle.

[ArchaeoTaco]

adding the front bumper and winch may change that though, you may need to at least do the coilovers to counteract the added weight to the nose.


I think if you are adding rock sliders, all of the camping equipment, and a winch bumper, you will end up with an upgraded suspension, be it now or later. I don't think the stock suspension will be up to the task in the long-term. There are two ways you can go:

1. Add all of the weight on the stock susp. and just take it easy and be careful with the driving. Document all of the differences in ride height and GVW as you go ("before" & "after" measurements). After you are all complete with adding weight, determine your gross weight and how much lift you need, and place an order for the suspension accordingly.

2. Draw up a list of modifications you plan to make, and estimate what the weight will end up being. Weigh your truck now, as-is, and then provide all of these numbers to your suspension specialist of choice, along with the desired amount of lift, and get the suspension ordered and installed ahead of all of the weight increases. I would recommend adjustable coilovers for the front, so that you can make fine adjustments to the ride height as necessary. For the rear, you can make up some adjustment in ride height with shackle length if you need to, or even small spring-steel spacers on the bottom of the leaf packs.


Thanks for the input, Jim65 and Baja. Now that I've thought about it, dealing with the suspension and lift first seems to be the better choice. I'd rather not have to take it easy on the trails, since getting in and out of some rugged terrain comes first on the list of priorities. So it looks like the camping mods will have to wait.

As Arnold once quipped, "you can't shoot a cannon from a canoe".:p

[ArchaeoTaco]

Anything over 1/4 your recommended payload as a constant load (rack, sliders, skids, etc) and I bet you'll find it's time to look at stiffer springs. That's a slippery number and really an educated guess but ya gotta keep in mind that Toyota has been building suspensions for unloaded US street use for a while now, and while they may rate your truck with a little over 1/4T working load (max IIRC is 1400#ish, working load is half that), you'll be all over the bump stops with 700# in the truck offroad. I was all over the stops with an unloaded truck and stock suspension, now with stiffer springs and the load I carry I can still flex to the stops but my butt isn't dragging :p. You can get by with stock suspension and heavy loads, but your capability offroad will suffer.

When you're adding tube, here's a quick rule of thumb. Thicker walls means the tube is less likely to deform or crush from a point load--good for sliders and other body protection. Larger diameter means stiffer tube, so you can drop the wall thickness if it's not body protection...for example a rack. You'll find there are some combinations where you can use a large diameter thinwall tube and it will be stronger as well as lighter than a narrow tube with a thick wall.

Basically, diameter has more effect on strength and stiffness than wall thickness, so if you choose the right stuff you can keep the constant load down and save space for steak and beer.

Something else to consider when weighting the truck is keep as much as you can in front of, or centered over, the rear axle.

Good call, Sean. I've officially begun the search for new suspension. Everyone seems to be quite happy with the Donahoe suspension package at Demello Offroad (http://www.demello-offroad.com//catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_25_30&products_id=98&osCsid=ad759b1c8d25cb3bf79248d4378b602c). Any other suggestions?

BTW, I talked with Jeremiah at Offroad Solutions today, so my truck will be in good hands when it comes time for a rack.

[Bergger]

Great choice in sliders. I have the same ones on my 03 Tacoma Double Cab. That certainly is a good suspension package but I'm not sure if that is with the Deaver 7,8 or 9 leaf pack. From what I've heard the 7 carries less weight than the stock leaves and are more for racing. Most guys go with the 8 or 9 leaf pack and some even the 10. The Donahoes are considered the best coil over you can get. I don't do much high speed driving so I went with a 2" coil over instead, SAW 2.0. I love them. I also decided to go with a stiffer leaf pack. The Deaver have no over loads. Since I carry a lot of weight and tow a camper I wanted something that supported the weight but still had good articulation. I've got a complete Old Man Emu set up in the rear, leafs, shocks and shackles. I am very happy with the complete set up front and rear. The whole thing cost me about $1250 and the install is very, very easy. I did have the guys at Off Road Solutions put on my extended brake line. Those guys are great and know Toyotas well.

[FortyMileDesert]

I seem to see this repeated several times on this thread - - Personally, I've had very good luck with them.

I'm running 265/75-16 BFG Rugged Trail, load range E on my Disco at present. Have had them on there for about 20,000 miles, more than 50 off-road treks (mostly N. Nevada) about 5000 of that in the dirt. About the only time they arent up to snuff compared to the BFG TA/KOs that I had previously is in deep, slick mud. Where they are BETTER than the TA/KOs is:

Much smoother on highway
Much quieter on highway
Stay balanced better
Lugs don't tear off as easily

The TA/KOs have the advantage:

The aforementioned deep mud
An extra ply of sidewall

In northern Nevada, I rarely encounter deep mud - The kind that fills the tread.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Great choice in sliders. I have the same ones on my 03 Tacoma Double Cab. That certainly is a good suspension package but I'm not sure if that is with the Deaver 7,8 or 9 leaf pack. From what I've heard the 7 carries less weight than the stock leaves and are more for racing. Most guys go with the 8 or 9 leaf pack and some even the 10. The Donahoes are considered the best coil over you can get. I don't do much high speed driving so I went with a 2" coil over instead, SAW 2.0. I love them. I also decided to go with a stiffer leaf pack. The Deaver have no over loads. Since I carry a lot of weight and tow a camper I wanted something that supported the weight but still had good articulation. I've got a complete Old Man Emu set up in the rear, leafs, shocks and shackles. I am very happy with the complete set up front and rear. The whole thing cost me about $1250 and the install is very, very easy. I did have the guys at Off Road Solutions put on my extended brake line. Those guys are great and know Toyotas well.

Thanks for the great info, Bergger. I'm in a similar situation as you - I need the back suspension for the weight more than high speed stuff. I'll be carrying tents, tools, shovels, artifacts, buckets of dirt, water, etc. I'm glad to hear your positive review of the Old Man Emu setup. I certainly like the OME philosophy - function over fashion.

$1250 sounds very reasonable. I was thinking about 2.5" coilovers, though, for a future winch.

So you did all of the installation (besides the extended brake line) yourself? Killer; that saves a few hundred bucks.

I see you're in Aurora. We'll have to meet up sometime and go wheeling! :beer:

[Bergger]

Thanks for the great info, Bergger. I'm in a similar situation as you - I need the back suspension for the weight more than high speed stuff. I'll be carrying tents, tools, shovels, artifacts, buckets of dirt, water, etc. I'm glad to hear your positive review of the Old Man Emu setup. I certainly like the OME philosophy - function over fashion.

$1250 sounds very reasonable. I was thinking about 2.5" coilovers, though, for a future winch.

So you did all of the installation (besides the extended brake line) yourself? Killer; that saves a few hundred bucks.

I see you're in Aurora. We'll have to meet up sometime and go wheeling! :beer:

The spring rate is what you really want to look at if you are thinking about adding a lot of weight to the front of your truck. The real benefit of the 2.5" shock is better performance at high speeds due to the increased fluid capacity. If you don't plan on racing you can probably save some money and go with a 2.0. Though I hear the Donahoes ride like a dream. I may give them a try when mine wear out. The SAW 2.0 that I have have a 15" 675lbs spring so they will hold some nice weight. I don't even think you can get them anymore though in that spring rate. Most now, 2.0 and 2.5, come with 650lbs springs. Although Allpros coils can be had with springs as low as 550lbs. As far as the install, it's a piece of cake. It's a waste of money to pay someone to do it for you. The coils are a 4 bolt job each and you can do that yourself. The rear is just a bit more difficult and it does help to have a second person to help move the axle around and seat the pins in the leaf packs. When you plan on doing it just let me know and I'll see if I can help you out.

[Bergger]

I just checked out some of your photos on your website, cool pics. Is that your dog, the white Husky? If so it could be the twin of my dog!

5392

[Grim Reaper]

I just checked out some of your photos on your website, cool pics. Is that your dog, the white Husky? If so it could be the twin of my dog!

5392
White Sheppard.

[ArchaeoTaco]

I just checked out some of your photos on your website, cool pics. Is that your dog, the white Husky? If so it could be the twin of my dog!

5392

Wow, for a second I thought your picture was of my dog! Mine's also a white husky, and they definitely look like twins:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/jan2007/masey2.jpg

[ArchaeoTaco]

Got a package in the mail from DeLorme today :sombrero:

I've been waiting for this unit to come out for a while now. It's perfect for my needs: something that can be used in the truck to get me to UTM coordinates in the middle of nowhere, and at the same time I can carry it with me on long hikes/surveys.

The capability to layer USGS topos and aerials on the unit is a huge bonus. That's gonna save me a ton of time in the field trying to figure out if we're still within the boundaries of some arbitrary line, like a section boundary.

I ordered the Earthmate GPS PN-20 Deluxe Bundle (http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10106&item=25786), which comes with rechargable lithium ion batteries, lots of cords/connections for cars, computers and wall plugs, a 1 GB SD card and reader for storing all those topos and aerials, Topo USA DVD software, and $100 in free downloads from the DeLorme website.

I also ordered the In-Vehicle Mount (http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10095&item=25594).

All of this cost me $530, shipped. Great price for what you get.

Here is everything that came in the box:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Earthmate-01.jpg

It's a windshield mount, so I first mounted it in the center of the windshield, but I didn't like the reduced visibility, so I moved it to the left side of the dash, which works out perfectly:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Earthmate-07.jpg

Then it was a simple matter of running the wire under the console and threading it up beneath the power supply:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Earthmate-08.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Earthmate-09.jpg

I've been using it around town and it works great. I can't wait to get it out in the field :arabia:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Earthmate-12.jpg

[Scott Brady]

I just checked out some of your photos on your website, cool pics. Is that your dog, the white Husky? If so it could be the twin of my dog!

5392

Mine too!

[ArchaeoTaco]

Got some welding done this weekend :D

I ordered a set of Standard SKO rocksliders (http://www.stubbswelding.com/rocksliders.htm) from Stubbs Welding. Richard did a great job on these sliders, and he was a pleasure to work with. He was very accommodating with all of my beginner welding questions.

Here's how they looked after I got them powder coated:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/welding1.jpg

After clamping them into place I tack welded them onto the frame:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/welding2.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/welding3.jpg

After triple checking everything, the final welds were made.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/welding4.jpg

The end product looks great:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/sliders2.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/sliders1.jpg

And for the final test (before the actually wheeling them, that is):
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/sliders3.jpg

:victory:

[Willman]

Sliders look awesome!!! Richard is a great guy!! I love my sliders!!!

Nice looking rig and Welcome to the ExPo!!!

:ylsmoke:

[BajaTaco]

So not only is he an archaeo guy... but he knows how to weld stuff... :bowdown:

Congrats on the sliders and the DeLorme. The pics are great! That DeLorme looks really good in your tacoma. Please give us some feedback on the unit after you have some time with it. It looks like a really useful (and powerful) model. I am curious what the image costs will add up to over time.

[crawler#976]

Nice job on the sliders! Richard is indeed a pleasure to work with. May try to meet him this summer - we're going thru Susanville in June.

Your truck is making progress very quickly!

[Bergger]

Awesome! Looking good.

[Bergger]

Mine too!

Lets see a pic.

[Scott Brady]

animal house :)

***Yes, the cat likes our Malamute more than us.

[Ursidae69]

Wow, I really like those sliders. :bowdown:

[ArchaeoTaco]

Sliders look awesome!!! Richard is a great guy!! I love my sliders!!!

Nice looking rig and Welcome to the ExPo!!!

:ylsmoke:

Absolutely - Richard even volunteered to talk with me on the weekend when I was welding them on.

Which sliders did you get?

(Thanks for the welcome!)


So not only is he an archaeo guy... but he knows how to weld stuff... :bowdown:

Congrats on the sliders and the DeLorme. The pics are great! That DeLorme looks really good in your tacoma. Please give us some feedback on the unit after you have some time with it. It looks like a really useful (and powerful) model. I am curious what the image costs will add up to over time.

Thanks! Fortunately, I had a more experienced welder to guide me (and let me borrow his arc welder).

The DeLorme unit is working great so far. The ability to layer photocopied USGS topos is exactly what I've been waiting for. I'm working on drawing project boundaries that can be seen in the field. It does have a few glitches, being so new. I couldn't get the software to load on my laptop, so they sent me another software bundle. The good thing is that I got another coupon with the bundle, which means $200 of free downloads :luxhello:

The download price seems a little high, but I imagine most people could get most of what they want with the $100 coupon. They charge $0.75 per square mile, which includes three layers - the USGS 7.5 minute topo, a B&W aerial, and a satellite image. The file size is 1 MB per square mile.

Most people probably won't even need the extra downloadable layers, since Topo USA comes with the GPS unit, which already has very nice looking topos with 20 foot contour intervals for all 50 states. So all in all, it's a very good deal.

I'll definitely post more details as I get the unit out in the field :)



Nice job on the sliders! Richard is indeed a pleasure to work with. May try to meet him this summer - we're going thru Susanville in June.

Your truck is making progress very quickly!

Richard's buggy looks awesome - I'd love to see it in person!


Awesome! Looking good.
Thanks! How are your Stubbs sliders holding up?


Wow, I really like those sliders. :bowdown:

Thanks! They're a great design, and cheap to boot. Even after getting them powder coated for $90 here in Denver, the total costs came out cheaper than most others I've seen.

[ArchaeoTaco]

animal house :)

***Yes, the cat likes our Malamute more than us.
Ha- that's great! My husky can't seem to get past the hunting/stalking phase with cats, despite the repeated clawings.

We've all got to let our white huskies/malamutes meet up sometime.

[LUISJG]

looking very good!!!

[Willman]

[QUOTE=ArchaeoTaco]Absolutely - Richard even volunteered to talk with me on the weekend when I was welding them on.

Which sliders did you get?

(Thanks for the welcome!)
[QUOTE]

I got the standard style for cheap a few years ago!!!!!

Great product!!!

Keep us posted on your rig updates!!!

:victory:

[ArchaeoTaco]

Couple of minor tweaks:

Mag lite attachment (thanks for the idea TacoDoc)
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/maglite.jpg

All weather floormats (salvaged from a 4-Runner :D)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/allweathermats.jpg

[ArchaeoTaco]

The snow is finally melting here in Colorado, and warmer weather has allowed me to get back into the field. I did a small survey in northeastern CO yesterday, and was able to stretch the legs a little at Pawnee Buttes, so to speak. Nothing challenging, but it was nice to get the truck off the pavement!

I've also added a couple of things. First, I installed a Bestop Supertop. I met the designer of these things a few weeks back (they're based out of Colorado), and after some talking I decided that the supertop matches my needs very well. It's lightweight, tucks away when not needed, and provides enough shelter from the elements for what I need (keeping equipment relatively dry; shelter for the dogs).

I still plan on getting a custom rack down the road, built around and over the topper.

This one shows the topper nicely:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pawnee%20Buttes/climbing.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pawnee%20Buttes/kickingdust.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pawnee%20Buttes/overhead2.jpg

I also got around to putting in a toolbox, which served as a nice place to mount my high-lift jack:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pawnee%20Buttes/toolbox.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/Pawnee%20Buttes/toolbox-close.jpg

Soon it will be time for getting back into the mountains on BLM surveys, when I can really test the truck :D

[mountainpete]

Well done!!!

[OnlyNaTaco]

Hey i like that box, where did you get it and how much, I likw how its in the bed rather than all those other ones that hnag on the bed sides, Is it removable?

[ArchaeoTaco]

Hey i like that box, where did you get it and how much, I likw how its in the bed rather than all those other ones that hnag on the bed sides, Is it removable?

Thanks, I got it at Lowe's for $229. It has handles, so it can be removable, but I drilled it into my bed so it's not going anywhere :)

[asteffes]

The spring rate is what you really want to look at if you are thinking about adding a lot of weight to the front of your truck. The real benefit of the 2.5" shock is better performance at high speeds due to the increased fluid capacity. If you don't plan on racing you can probably save some money and go with a 2.0. Though I hear the Donahoes ride like a dream. I may give them a try when mine wear out. The SAW 2.0 that I have have a 15" 675lbs spring so they will hold some nice weight. I don't even think you can get them anymore though in that spring rate. Most now, 2.0 and 2.5, come with 650lbs springs. Although Allpros coils can be had with springs as low as 550lbs. As far as the install, it's a piece of cake. It's a waste of money to pay someone to do it for you. The coils are a 4 bolt job each and you can do that yourself. The rear is just a bit more difficult and it does help to have a second person to help move the axle around and seat the pins in the leaf packs. When you plan on doing it just let me know and I'll see if I can help you out.


Just get it done and get the Donahoes, front and rear, with whatever AAL or leaf pack meets your load requirements. They're really just great and I would hate for you to try something else just to end up wanting the Donahoes. I know, you'll be joining the bandwagon but it's not a bad one to be on by any means. :)

[CLynn85]

The supertop looks good. Do you notice any road noise as a result?

[ArchaeoTaco]

The supertop looks good. Do you notice any road noise as a result?

I haven't noticed any noise at all, although the tires are loud as hell and would drown out anything short of a sonic boom :p

[ArchaeoTaco]

Time to head back in the field.

I've got some great projects lined up for the spring/summer/fall. If anyone in the area wants to meet up for camping/wheeling around these projects, let me know.

Independence Mountain, Colorado (continuing work from last year):
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/expeditions/IndependenceMountain-camping1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/expeditions/IndependenceMountain-roadoverlook3.jpg

Yarmony Mountain, Colorado (continuing work from last year):

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/expeditions/Yarmony-Davidsurveying3.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/expeditions/Yarmony-overview.jpg

Trout Creek, Colorado (continuing work from last year):

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/expeditions/TroutCreek-overview.jpg

Paonia, Colorado:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Tacoma/expeditions/Paonia-3Dtopo2.jpg

Wish me luck!

[ArchaeoTaco]

oops, double post

[Ridgewalker]

Wish you wouldn't be showing off some of my favorite places in CO! Just kidding, but I do like both Independence Mtn and Trout Crk.
Your '05 is looking good!

[asteffes]

Could you post the part number of that Kobalt toolbox? I cannot find one on Lowe's website, nor in the local Lowe's store. They have plenty for full-sized trucks and an over-the-rail box for compact trucks, but I don't see that particular box.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Hi all,

Just checking-in after a busy last few weeks. I just got back from an expedition on the western slope last week. We had some great weather, and the scenery was great!

I was very pleased with the performance of my Tacoma. It got us through several steep, rocky, narrow trails, saving us hours of hiking time.

The amount of mountain scrub was outrageous, though, and my rig did suffer several scratches. I had them buffed out when I returned, but it nearly killed me to see my new truck with front-to-rear scratches :Wow1:

All in all it was a great time!

Some pictures:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/park.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/overview.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/campsite1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/campsite3.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/campsite2.jpg

[ArchaeoTaco]

More pictures:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/mountains1.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/loaded.jpg
Loaded down with gear for 4 people.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/hiking1.jpg
Surveying.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/descent1.jpg

[ArchaeoTaco]

As you can see from the photos, I got a cargo basket to store extra gear (sure came in handy on this trip), and I added a few things to the back. I don't have a great photo, but this one shows the jerry can (attached to the tailgate), and a fire extinguisher, attached with a quickfist. I got several varieties of quick fists a couple of months back, and I've been having fun with them. They are also used to hold the shovel and axe on the roof rack, and I have the small ones on the inside lid of the toolbox for trowels.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/rear-additions.jpg

[bigreen505]

Wow, great trips. I would love to join you sometime -- promise to stay out of the way! :arabia:

How are the tires?

[Bergger]

Cool pics and the truck is looking good. How did you secure the jerry can to your tailgate? Looking at your photos makes me want to get out. My last trip was canned due to that big snow storm we got and I'm dying to get up to the mountains. My next chance is Labor Day week. What elevation were you at? The peaks in the background don't appear to have near the snow pack of the eastern slope.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Wow, great trips. I would love to join you sometime -- promise to stay out of the way! :arabia:

How are the tires?

I'm always looking for part-time techs. How are you with identifying stone tools? Seriously, shoot me a PM :)

I'm loving the tires. There were a few wet, slimy spots with a steep canyon drop a few feet away, and the truck didn't slide once.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Cool pics and the truck is looking good. How did you secure the jerry can to your tailgate? Looking at your photos makes me want to get out. My last trip was canned due to that big snow storm we got and I'm dying to get up to the mountains. My next chance is Labor Day week. What elevation were you at? The peaks in the background don't appear to have near the snow pack of the eastern slope.

We should definitely head out together, although I'll be out of town Labor Day weekend. Give me a shout, though, next time you want to go wheeling.

We were only at 7,500 ft (just outside of Paonia), and the mountains in the background go up to 11,000 ft. Definitely less snowpack there.

I got a Blitz jerry can, and it came with a base attachment with holes to strap the can in. I used self-tapping screws to drill the base into my tailgate. Here's a better photo of the bed, which also shows the extinguisher and open toolbox with light and trowel quickfists:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/truck-bed-may07.jpg

[p1michaud]

The amount of mountain scrub was outrageous, though, and my rig did suffer several scratches. I had them buffed out when I returned, but it nearly killed me to see my new truck with front-to-rear scratches :Wow1:


Looks like you had a fun trip, too bad about the scratches. I have to say, once you get a few scratches you don't mind as much. The first ones really made me cringe as they made their way along the sheetmetal of the truck...

Cheers :beer:,
P

[ArchaeoTaco]

Looks like you had a fun trip, too bad about the scratches. I have to say, once you get a few scratches you don't mind as much. The first ones really made me cringe as they made their way along the sheetmetal of the truck...

Cheers :beer:,
P
Ha, that sound has haunted me for the past few days. After climbing one particularly brutal trail, I spent two hours with a saw clearing the way back down. :violent-smiley-031:

The scrub brush was particularly bad here though. This project was for a forest fire fuels reduction that the BLM is performing. For the past hundred years, fires have been put out when they started, so the whole place is overgrown with scrub. It's just a tenderbox waiting for a spark. I hope they get their mulchers out there before it goes up in flames.

[crawler#976]

Brush pinstripping is a badge of wheelin' honor...







...or so I've tried to tell my wife - I scratched her '05 up pretty good a few weeks ago.

:oops:

Great pics! Looks like all your improvements are paying off.

Mark

[ArchaeoTaco]

Brush pinstripping is a badge of wheelin' honor...







...or so I've tried to tell my wife - I scratched her '05 up pretty good a few weeks ago.

:oops:

Great pics! Looks like all your improvements are paying off.

Mark

I hear you - my fiance was trying to talk me into taking her FJ Cruiser on the expedition so she could use my truck to help a friend move. I would have been one dead archaeologist if I brought her FJ back with all of these scratches.

[mightymike]

John-

How would you rate the Bestop as a tent, i.e with a long bed truck, how do you think it would work with a mattress as a sleeping compartment? Do you know if they have screens for the clear vinyl windows?

Thanks-

Mike

[ArchaeoTaco]

John-

How would you rate the Bestop as a tent, i.e with a long bed truck, how do you think it would work with a mattress as a sleeping compartment? Do you know if they have screens for the clear vinyl windows?

Thanks-

Mike

Hi Mike,

Sorry for the late reply. The Bestop isn't entirely waterproof, so I wouldn't use it consistently for a camper shell. There are small leaks in the corners with heavy rain, so that might be a problem with a mattress.

I have heard that they do have screens for the windows. I'm definitely going to get some if so.

[Jacket]

I saw your truck, and had to post mine up since we're nearly twins.....

Yours looks really nice! Here's mine.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/mralsto/CIMG0347.jpg

I agree with your assessment of the Bestop; I get minor leaks during heavy rain, but in my case it leaks onto the side of the bed near the tailgate. I'd consider using a blow up mattress with a vinyl bottom, and would have no problems sleeping back there (with the 6' bed).

[Lost Canadian]

Hey Jacket,
Nice to see ya over here.


Cheers
Trevor

[Jacket]

Hey Jacket,
Nice to see ya over here.


Cheers
Trevor

Thanks Trevor. It's a great community.

- matt

[ArchaeoTaco]

Nice rig! Your choice of truck and topper shows a true sense of style :ylsmoke:

Those black wheels look great - what kind are they?


I'm usually just a lurker here, but I saw your truck, and had to post mine up since we're nearly twins.....

Yours looks really nice! Here's mine.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/mralsto/CIMG0347.jpg

I agree with your assessment of the Bestop; I get minor leaks during heavy rain, but in my case it leaks onto the side of the bed near the tailgate. I'd consider using a blow up mattress with a vinyl bottom, and would have no problems sleeping back there (with the 6' bed).

Edit: Oh yea - and Hi Expo! Love to read the content here - great stuff!

[Jacket]

Nice rig! Your choice of truck and topper shows a true sense of style :ylsmoke:

Those black wheels look great - what kind are they?

Thanks. They are American Racing Chamber. Saving a bit of weight compared with a similar black steel wheel, and I look really cool at the mall:safari-rig:

[ArchaeoTaco]

I spent last week on a project just south of Blue Mesa Reservoir near Gunnison. Lots of incredible scenery, tough hikes, and having way too much fun with the truck :jumping:

Over the past few project, I've been taking the taco on progressively tougher trails, and it has handled beautifully. It is time, however, for upgraded suspension. I bottomed out pretty hard a couple of times on this trip, and the 20 gallons of water + 5 gallon fuel jerry can + gear + 4 people + dog = way too much weight for stock suspension.

So I was hoping to brainstorm with you guys about suspension. Donahoes are pretty much a certainty for the front, but I'm still uncertain about the back. With the kind of weight I mentioned above, plus a future rooftop tent and something to hold it up (custom rack or shell), do you think custom 12 leaf Deavers would be a safe bet? Should I have any other concerns with the front?

Thanks in advance for any advice, and here are some pictures from last week:

Outstanding view from our campsite:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00082906.jpg

Climbing a particularly steep hillside - it's so nice not to have to hike up these 30-degree-plus slopes:luxhello:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00292906.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00322906-1.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00332906-1.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00342906.jpg

Weaving through an ATV trail to record a site (that's my friend's dog navigating):
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00362906.jpg

Aspen canopy:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00032906.jpg

Ubiquitous sunset shot:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Blue_Mesa/DSC_00652906.jpg

[Ridgewalker]

ArchaeoTaco, nice pictures!
I lived a couple of years (1970-72) in Lake City 50+miles south of Gunnison. Lots of good hiking (I believe 5 14ers and the continental divide crosses the county 2x); many 4x4 trails (including Cinnamon and Engineer Passes, Old Carson, etc.); Powderhorn and LaGarita wildernesses, etc. I bicycled up Slumgullion Pass on the days I didn't work too hard. Fishing was excellent (especially right in town).
In other words, your photos bring back great memories...Thanks!
On another note-I never heard of 12 leaf Deavers?
Do you carry your heavy loads all the time? If not and you are not particularly a rock crawler, I'd consider lighter springing and AirLift bags. The air bags can be adjusted not only for heavy loads, but light ones and side to side leveling.
Just another way/option of looking at it.

[grouch]

I used you aspen shot as my background. Nice shot!

Lake City huh? That is where the family went camping when I was little. All I remember is camping on Deer Lakes. Nice place if I remember correctly.

[ArchaeoTaco]

ArchaeoTaco, nice pictures!
I lived a couple of years (1970-72) in Lake City 50+miles south of Gunnison. Lots of good hiking (I believe 5 14ers and the continental divide crosses the county 2x); many 4x4 trails (including Cinnamon and Engineer Passes, Old Carson, etc.); Powderhorn and LaGarita wildernesses, etc. I bicycled up Slumgullion Pass on the days I didn't work too hard. Fishing was excellent (especially right in town).
In other words, your photos bring back great memories...Thanks!
On another note-I never heard of 12 leaf Deavers?
Do you carry your heavy loads all the time? If not and you are not particularly a rock crawler, I'd consider lighter springing and AirLift bags. The air bags can be adjusted not only for heavy loads, but light ones and side to side leveling.
Just another way/option of looking at it.

Lake City is such a cool little town! We drove there once during the project to get more ice and have a look around.

I don't carry the heavy loads for the entire project - just to get to the camp. But there's still a lot of weight in the truck regardless. I think the 12 leaf Deavers are custom - TacoDoc got them if I remember correctly. I should probably give Jason Demello a call to brainstorm the best options. I haven't considered AirLift bags - are they durable?

[ArchaeoTaco]

I used you aspen shot as my background. Nice shot!

Lake City huh? That is where the family went camping when I was little. All I remember is camping on Deer Lakes. Nice place if I remember correctly.

Glad you like the aspen shot - I took about a dozen of these after seeing some amazing photos from John Fielder.

[ArchaeoTaco]

Hi fellas. I've been in the field a lot lately, so sorry for the absence. I really need to get wired-in to the whole satellite thing.

Anyway, the Stubbs sliders really saved us on this last trip to Western Colorado. Small trail with a big canyon drop just beside it, and a large boulder blocking the way:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Lost%20Horse/canyonview.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Lost%20Horse/rock.jpg

We built a little ledge of stones to prevent the passenger-side wheels from slipping over, and let the rocksliders guide us right along the boulder. There would have been some nasty body damage if it weren't for the sliders (or a nasty tumble down). We had to make this trip 3 times, there and back, and it always got the adrenaline pumping:Wow1:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Lost%20Horse/approach.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Lost%20Horse/grind.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Lost%20Horse/slider-driver.jpg

[ArchaeoTaco]

Beautiful area, by the way (Mesa County BLM lands):

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Lost%20Horse/canyon-1-small.jpg

[preacherman]

[QUOTE=ArchaeoTaco]Hi all,

Just checking-in after a busy last few weeks. I just got back from an expedition on the western slope last week. We had some great weather, and the scenery was great!

I was very pleased with the performance of my Tacoma. It got us through several steep, rocky, narrow trails, saving us hours of hiking time.

The amount of mountain scrub was outrageous, though, and my rig did suffer several scratches. I had them buffed out when I returned, but it nearly killed me to see my new truck with front-to-rear scratches :Wow1:

All in all it was a great time!

Some pictures:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/park.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/johnkew/Paonia/overview.jpg


That looks like Mt. Lamburt over by Paonia, CO? Is it?

[ArchaeoTaco]

That looks like Mt. Lamburt over by Paonia, CO? Is it?

That's the one :)

We were just north of Paonia on that survey. Beautiful country.

[CoastalDefender]

Ain't no stranger to offroading along cliffs (Log Trucking), but man, I would have been nervous as heck going past that boulder.

And we all know the mirage pics create. What the picture shows is only 1/4 of how dangerous/steep/scary it really was.:jumping:

[Accrete]

ArcheoTaco your rig is coming along nicely! And your pick of GPS units is spot on, very nice with the overlay's. The Delorme software is great to work with on a PC.


Brush pinstripping is a badge of wheelin' honor...
...or so I've tried to tell my wife - I scratched her '05 up pretty good a few weeks ago.Too funny Mark. Fortunately for myself, since my wife is the driver [she luvs it and she is really, really good at it!] and i'm the navigator [i luv all the gadgets to get us there and back], any scratches will be put on our TACO by her! But she did rib me the other day when the trail we were on going out to a gold claim turned into what i'd classify as an ATV trail. I heard the branches running along the side and just held my breath. . . Not a scratch when we checked it out at the stream to pan.

. . . though i did have a close call today when my son and i went into the hills plinking. . . a buzzard hit the front bumper. Fortunately there was no sign of impact and my wife got a good laugh when we told her about it.

Cheers,
Thom

[ArchaeoTaco]

And we all know the mirage pics create. What the picture shows is only 1/4 of how dangerous/steep/scary it really was.:jumping:

That's the truth! :peepwall:

[ArchaeoTaco]

ArcheoTaco your rig is coming along nicely! And your pick of GPS units is spot on, very nice with the overlay's. The Delorme software is great to work with on a PC.

Too funny Mark. Fortunately for myself, since my wife is the driver [she luvs it and she is really, really good at it!] and i'm the navigator [i luv all the gadgets to get us there and back], any scratches will be put on our TACO by her! But she did rib me the other day when the trail we were on going out to a gold claim turned into what i'd classify as an ATV trail. I heard the branches running along the side and just held my breath. . . Not a scratch when we checked it out at the stream to pan.

. . . though i did have a close call today when my son and i went into the hills plinking. . . a buzzard hit the front bumper. Fortunately there was no sign of impact and my wife got a good laugh when we told her about it.

Cheers,
Thom

Thanks! That DeLorme unit has turned out to be indespensible. Our company just ordered three more. Good thing it works for both work and play :D

That buzzard situation is a perfect reason why a custom front bumper can be written off for 'safety' reasons :26_7_2: