Stove or Grill or...What do you use and Why?

[blupaddler]

After this last weekend, I feel my present cooking situation may be inadequate. I am currently using a Coleman Propane stove/grill combination. Meaning one side is a burner and the other is a grill. I found that I need the second burner at times in order to multi-task with some meals. I tried to cook/heat on the grill side, but that didn't work too well. Now maybe that was ADHD, but I am looking into new systems.

I am curious what everyone else is using. This will be based on typical car-camping type travel. Where space is better than a backpack, but still precious.

Just curious who is using:

1. Two burner stove
2. Grill, Hibachi type
3. Backpack type stove, MSR etc.
4. OR???

Why you are using it also?



:camping:

[mountainpete]

When I have room, I go all out. I carry a two burner Coleman stove and a mini propane BBQ. The items take up a good amount of space, but I like to be able to grill a steak on one while cooking up some pasta on the other.

I also bring along a teflon griddle that I put over the Coleman stove burners (covers the whole unit) that I cook things like pancakes, eggs, etc on... Griddles are cheap and work really well and are lighter and bigger than the a big frying pan.

I also have an MSR Whisperlite stove that I use if I have to carry it on my back. It can be a bit finicky to simmer with, but it boils water better than anything else.

Pete

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Hey....blu!

I have a 3 burner old style Coleman that uses "white fuel"......and I also have two 2 burner white fuel Coleman's. I have extra stoves in case my friends are without. I love them.....don't have to drag around little propane bottles....and they seem to run forever!

I listed it HERE (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168).

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/425F499G_500.jpg

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/428-700_500.jpg

I even found a kerosene single burner stove top last summer (by:Kero~Sun..I don't think they make them anymore)....thinking I may use it for a huge pot of soup to last all weekend.....or how about a big turkey in a pot!....for camping with a larger group......I found it at a garage sale in Nampa, Idaho for $3.00.....brand new...never used.....and new it's probably a $75 burner! (hey!....I know this is old school....but it was ONLY $3 bucks!) so check the garage sales!

It kind of looks like the one below.

http://www.woodlandproducts.com/p170.asp



http://www.woodlandproducts.com/k-stove2.jpg

Like dad always said...........buy heaters in July!.....you get the best deal.....and ya never know when you're gonna need it!

[Scott Brady]

I am looking at this solution:

http://www.brunton.com/images/catalog/wrr3_L.jpg

Brunton, wind river range: http://www.brunton.com/product.php?id=400

Overall dimensions: 13.5”x21.5”x7” closed 23 lbs 4 oz
Fuel: Propane
30,000 BTU (15,000 per burner)
Boil time: Down to 3 minutes
Burn time:
Up to 1.5 hours-high output

Removable burner plate for easy cleaning
Precision fuel control
Ultra strong rattle-free design
Stainless steel grate supports large or small pots
Storage compartment under cutting board
Compatible with large and small propane canisters
Extruded aluminum/stainless steel construction
Limited lifetime warranty

[Scott Brady]

I still prefer my little Markill backpacking stove for heating water. The only thing that is faster is a Jetboil.

[Ursidae69]

Damn Scott, that's over 400 bones... :eek:

I prefer to cook over the fire and when by myself or in a very small group. I have various cast iron implements for cooking and all will work right over coals or on a grate over the coals. My buddy has a sweet grill I plan to copy. It's an old disk off a tractor, maybe 14 inches in diameter and he welded nuts on the bottom of it so threaded legs can be screwed into it. It was ground down to bare metal and seasoned extensively before it was used for food. With the legs in place it can sit right over the fire and is ideal for frying about anything and you can still keep your fire going well for warmth and it won't affect the frying.

When I'm in a group or there isn't a fire, I have a small coleman stove that I've had since my teen years. Sort of an old piece of crap, but it still works for car camping. My biggest issue when cooking is often table space, I need to get a good camp table someday.

[Scott Brady]

great idea Chuck. When I was in the Sierra Madre, we stayed with a family that used a disk like that to make some killer burritos.

[blupaddler]

Thanks for all the information so far guys.

Scott, Brunton does make some really good stuff. I like their backpacking stove. I forget the exact model, but it can use almost anything for fuel.

[BajaTaco]

I know this seems funny, but I have always just used a little Coleman Peak1 Dual-fuel backpack stove. Obviously it has limitations on how much you can cook at once and wouldn't be a good choice for doing meals for big groups like Scott often does. But I love it because it weighs so little and takes up such little space. We have used this to cook all of our camp meals on ALL of our trips, backpacking or driving, including our 4-month trip through Baja and other multi-week trips into Mexico. I have a light, folding wire grill that can be used when there is a camp-fire, but the folding legs on it are almost worthless, but it's great to have grilled veggies, fish and meats once in a while. The Peak1 stove has been on a lot of backpacking and car-camping trips over the years, and is still going strong, although I did replace the seals and generator after the big Baja trip (Coleman makes a parts kit for that). The cool thing is that it runs on unleaded petrol just fine, which is perfect for an extended trip to Baja when it's just not practical to carry all of the white-gas you would need.

I plan to try a little expiriment with it using a pressure cooker and some oven bags. If it works, it might make for some pretty tasty meals.

[MaddBaggins]

I think I have the same Coleman as you blu, the grill/burner combo. I also have a backpacking stove(small and lightweight). When camping with my vehicle I just carry both, then I have the option of 2 burners and a grill.

[datrupr]

I use a combination of a Coleman 2 burner stove and a Camp Fire. Get the coal reallyu hot and move them near the edge of the ring and it makes a great oven for baking potatoes, roasting Corn on the Cob, and then I usually carry a grate with me that I throw over the fire to grill steaks etc. I works for me and helps to save space in the truck. I also have the griddle attachment for the stove if I want to make pancakes, etc.

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Hey Aaron........

We like to cook over a fire as well......but here in SO. CA. the fire restrictions are so strict that we even need a campfire permit to use our Coleman Stoves!

........and many times we just can't have a campfire AT ALL (in the mountains)!

My friend went all out and bought a three legged over the campfire adjustable grate (http://safetycentral.com/safetycentral/catrwiadgrgr.html). Works perfect!

It looks like the one in this link....but not sure if that's the exact one.

[datrupr]

Hey Mark, that is pretty cool. I have an old grate that I got from one of the restaurants I used to manage. we upgraded all of our kitchen equipment and they were just going to throw it out, so I grabbed it instead. I just stack up a few extra rocks at crucial points inside the fire ring and balance it there. it works great! Arizona has the same campfire restrictions in the summer. It is usually to hot to camp anywhere in the summer anyway, so it does not bother me, I get all my camping in during the spring and fall before and after the fire restrictions. we have a fire burning right now come to think of it, but the restrictions are not in effect. There is a lot of dry ground out there still as I observed over the last couple of weekend outings. I am done camping until March, if I have to sleep over night anywhere from here on out it will be in a hotel until then. I am not a real big fan of cold wheather. Maybe that is why I live in AZ :D

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I love cold weather!...........Just consider it Free Air Conditioning!..... :jump:

[blupaddler]

I would love to just carry a small backpacking stove. I just think that it is nice to have the second burner in order to multi-task. READ: Make morning coffee and breakfast at the same time...But that is really the only reason I would want the second burner.

I also admit that I would save a great deal of room in my cooking box if I went with a smaller stove vs. the bigger two burner types.

This is the backpacking stove I have been drooling over for a while...

http://brunton.com/product.php?id=60



:)

[BajaTaco]

I would love to just carry a small backpacking stove. I just think that it is nice to have the second burner in order to multi-task. READ: Make morning coffee and breakfast at the same time...But that is really the only reason I would want the second burner.

I also admit that I would save a great deal of room in my cooking box if I went with a smaller stove vs. the bigger two burner types.

This is the backpacking stove I have been drooling over for a while...

http://brunton.com/product.php?id=60



:)

Pretty sweet stove 4 sure. I wouldn't mind trying one of those out. I know what you mean about the coffee. It's another "trade off", one of many the expedition traveler must face on occasion :). I'd like to have a dual burner for short, non-technical trips where weight isn't that big of a deal. It's a nice option. The backpack stove is cool not only due to low weight/space, but I can just leave it packed in the truck.

[gjackson]

I carry a Coleman 425 Dual Fuel stove. Works very well on white gas and unleaded and okay on leaded (though you have to clean the generator about once a week!). Worked for 9 months straight and we had no problems with it. Also cooked over the fire a lot. Mainly used a folding grate or a dutch oven. A couple in our party had a pressure cooker and that worked really really well!! Awesome dutch oven food in less time!

cheers

[blupaddler]

o.k.

Here is another posibility. Although, it looks as though it may be a little unstable.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=9730-725&categoryid=2035

But, you would have to carry more cartridges again. And, it sounds like they might go quickly. "42 minute burn time on high"

[Desertdude]

I carry one of These (http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/superfly.asp) with auto-light - and this fast jetboil (http://www.jetboil.com/) sometimes this gas grill (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none)

I will be traveling in Baja with This (http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/xgk.asp) multi fuel stove for the ease of fuel.

Hard to have an all in one


the jet boil and MSR stove along with a complete cook set diner-ware fits inside a small pelican case - the BBG gas grill and 5 lb propane tank I always bring when I feel luxurious :shakin:

[BajaTaco]

I carry one of These (http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/superfly.asp) with auto-light - and this fast jetboil (http://www.jetboil.com/) sometimes this gas grill (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none)

I will be traveling in Baja with This (http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/xgk.asp) multi fuel stove for the ease of fuel.

Hard to have an all in one


the jet boil and MSR stove along with a complete cook set diner-ware fits inside a small pelican case - the BBG gas grill and 5 lb propane tank I always bring when I feel luxurious :shakin:

Wow - you are my stove hero! :bowdown: :bowdown: A stove for every need. Now you got me going...

[Desertdude]

As you all know now my secret is out

I also travel with this little cutie (http://bernzomatic.com/bernzomatic/consumer/jhtml/index.jhtml?_requestid=114560)

If I need to start a campfire or raise the heat a little :campfire:

OK so I might be a closet pyro :ar15:

[GeoRoss]

As you all know now my secret is out

I also travel with this little cutie (http://bernzomatic.com/bernzomatic/consumer/jhtml/index.jhtml?_requestid=114560)

If I need to start a campfire or raise the heat a little :campfire:

OK so I might be a closet pyro :ar15:

Thats funny DD, I finally quite trying to be a boyscout and carry a small amount of white gas to get campfires started.

I have a whisperlight, esbit and a propane coleman. When fully loaded with the family I have to take the coleman. I would love to take a grill, but that would mean the either Hannah, Grace or Lisa would have to stay home to make room (need to get the spare onto a swing out!):).

I like the coleman but am conflicted on the propane. Whitegas is nice, but can be messy. Little propane bottles are a PIA as you only can guess how much you have. No way do I have room for a 3-5gal propane tank.

Ross

[blupaddler]

Well, having done some research and talking to different people, I have finalized three choices.

http://www.primus.se/ The Primus OmniFuel


http://brunton.com/product.php?id=60 The Nova Mulit-fuel Stove


http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/dragonfly.asp The MSR DragonFly


They all have real good pot stability. Also great simmering ability, i.e. flame control. They all can run white gas, etc., except the Primus ca also run on canisters. All of them also have the fuel cartridge away from the stove, so it is not directly "on top" of the stove.

I am leaning more towards the Primus b/c I can still use canister fuel. I am not quite ready to carry more liquid fuel in the back (inside) of my Landcruiser. Unless the hazards associated with white gas are less than those with regular fuel, petrol.

Anyway, that is where I stand or sit or wander around the room for now.


:ylsmoke:

[Scott Brady]

I would lean towards the Primus for that reason as well. The Primus multi fuel is all I use for the small stoves (despite owning a multi-fuel unit).

[flyingwil]

I would lean towards the Primus for that reason as well. The Primus multi fuel is all I use for the small stoves (despite owning a multi-fuel unit).


Well as some of you know my Coleman 424 would not pressurise this past weekend and we are on the quest for a new stove. The above posts are great help in my quest for a new stove... However, we will be staying clear of Coleman units.

Our Coleman was on it's second ever trip, and nor matter what would not pressurize. We had to bum off of others around us to cook our food. I think we may be leaning towards a MSR unit or the Primus units, however we would like the dual burner option. I'll keep you post as the search continues.

[whitethaiger]

Well as some of you know my Coleman 424 would not pressurise this past weekend and we are on the quest for a new stove. The above posts are great help in my quest for a new stove... However, we will be staying clear of Coleman units.

Our Coleman was on it's second ever trip, and nor matter what would not pressurize. We had to bum off of others around us to cook our food. I think we may be leaning towards a MSR unit or the Primus units, however we would like the dual burner option. I'll keep you post as the search continues.

Hmm, I missed that you had problems with your stove. We use a dual fuel Coleman like that and just replaced the 12 year old unit with a new one, last weekend was it's first trip. Never had problems, except that the old one now started to leak at the generator. A replacement generator cost almost as much as the new unit (on sale), so we got a new one.

[asteffes]

My 'ol Scout Troop used the simple Coleman "backpacker" stoves that had a small white gas fuel tank integrated with the stove. I always liked the simplicity over dealing with fragile fuel lines and pumps and whatnot. I though I would be all elite and stuff and get an MSR WhisperLite for myself once I grew up, but I sort of wish I just got a Coleman. The MSR gets very hot and has been mostly reliable, but it has so many little bits and pieces to it that can get lost. The fuel line is short and the pump assembly feels fragile. I think this is one place where unless you really need to go superlight, rugged and dependable is better. Even the most battered and beat-on Coleman stove in the troop never let us down.

True, the Coleman stoves were a bit heavier and you had to let them cool off before refueling, but they always "just work" and are very durable. They're also available in multi-fuel, or at least dual-fuel varieties, if you need the option of kerosene or whatever. If a Scout troop can't kill one after several years of use, I doubt any of us could, either. And for, what? $40? they're a good value in my book.

[justfred]

I've always been tempted by the barbeque grills they hang off the back of sailboats.

http://images.westmarine.com/full/015_452_001_522.jpg

This one is from www.westmarine.com, can't figure out how to simplify their link.

Otherwise, I went from Coleman white gas to propane (grill/burner stove, lantern, [well-ventilated-] space heater), and I'm about half-satisfied with it. Propane seems safer and is a lot easier; white gas burns better and hotter.

But it has given me the "Propane" song. To the tune of "Cocaine".

"If you want to cook out,
in the back yard, Propane.
You can cook some meat,
and other barbeque treats, with Propane.
Cook out side, turn up high, sure beats fried,
Propane."

(Feel free to make up your own lyrics, like:
"You can run your 'art car',
but you won't get far, with Propane.")

I still use white gas for fire poi spinning tho!

[asteffes]

You owe me a new keyboard! :p :coffee:

I have a Weber Q grille, which is a portable propane barbecue. I hooked it up to a full-sized cylinder, so I'm sort of tempted to start assembling the other propane appliances I need to go full-on assault style to my next beach barbecue. I need the tree, lantern and something else to hook up, but that would be pretty bad-***.

[91xlt]

i have the good old screw into the top of the propane bottle single burner type, and this http://www.weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2005/q/gg_q.aspx it rocks, but i tend to cook over fire, even if weather is not so permitting.

[blupaddler]

To follow up...I bought the Primus Omni-Fuel.

My reasoning was:
1. I grew tired of carrying a big two burner stove
2. This stove takes up much less space in our camping box
3. I can use pretty much any fuel I want...I chose Canister, b/c that's all I have ever used. I don't want to hassle with transporting white gas.
4. The boil time was quick. Not as quick as say the Jetboil.
5. The unit is very adjustable. Both at the canister attachment and the stove.




My impressions:

We used it, for the first time on a camping trip, on the Baja Trip. It was used for mostly making coffee and other breakfasts. It worked great the entire trip. I only had one wierd day, where I had to shake up the canister to get the fuel stirred up.

I still would like to get a two burner. Scott has a nice one. I think it's a Partner Steel. They make nice two, three and four burner models. One of the two burners actually folds up in half. This is on my wish list for now.




Wil,
Check Scott's Taco thread. I think he posted a pic of his there. I know it is a model that www.adventuretrailers.com sells. Also search the web for River Guide stuff. Those guys are very similar to us. Taking a lot of stuff, but at the same time trying to keep it compact.



www.partnersteel.com
www.adventuretrailers.com
www.riverconnection.com






:beer:

[Mike S]

My primary stove is a Camp Chef River Runner - a two burner propane with a lot of horsepower. I boils water by the gallon in minutes, and is aluminium and stainless - just 14 lbs, with legs and wind screen. Awesome stove. I think they discontinued it, since I cannot find a photo on line.


I also use a little one burner Bruton with a propane bottle for coffee and hot drinks when fishing or hunting.

M

[ShearPin]

I've had good luck with the Optimus Hiker. It replaced a Coleman white gas stove that refused to shut-off one night. I blew it out and left it hissing white gas in a rubber-made over night (lid off of course).

The Optimus is a nice self contained unit. It can be field stripped with the gas contol lever as the only tool. Great design. I also bring one of the tiny MSR's (forget the model) for boiling water for the wifes hot chocolate.

Henry1636

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I finally got the "SWR" out and put some things to use.

Here is one of my old school Coleman Stoves with my antique coffee maker (from an old cabin in Lake Tahoe) in action.

I think the stove is from the 1970's and I picked it up practically brand new in the original box for $6 bucks at a garage sale. I'm starting a Coleman Collection.

Sept. '06 Colorado...........
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/ScenicWonderRunner/2006_0919Summerinthesanjuans0122.jpg

[Redback]

I used one of these when touring on my motorcycle, they are brilliant, i still use it from time to time.

Trangia stove set;
http://www.smelinkweb.com/ImageLibrary/1758/produktkatalog/kokstor271.jpg
And i have one of these now for day trips in the 4WD, it take the small butane cans.
http://i15.ebayimg.com/04/i/08/61/e6/48_1_b.JPG

Baz.

[ZooJunkie]

I have a similar one that Baz uses. These little single butane burners are awesome! Great simmer capability, lasts a long time w/ the canister of butane, and the fuel is CHEAP! Oh, the stove is a banging deal too. I can get one for $15.00-$25.00. I carry a Char-Boil propane grill, MSR Whisperlite, and my butane stove when I go out into the wilderness.

Char-Boil propane grill set me back $20 at Sport Authorithay.
MSR Whisperlite was $70 new at REI many, many, many, moons ago.
Generic butane stove $15.00 at 99 Ranch Market.

[grouch]

I need to get a stove and I am having a hard time making up my mind on what to get. I have been looking at the Jetboils and a Coleman Peak1 400. While the Jetboils gets it done fast, the Coleman looks to be more versitile, I like the fact that it is a self contained unit that actually has a simmer control. It could also be used to warm up frozen hands after a long day in the stream.

[ZooJunkie]

Are you looking to cook or just boil water? If you are looking to cook a feast for 4, then a liquid fuel stove is worth the investment, however, some propane stoves (canister) are stellar for cooking as well. If you are just looking to boil water, then something like Jetboil or a Volcano Kettle is the way to go.

I have a MSR Whisperlite that has been absolutely 100% reliable in all the years I've owned it (since 1995).

[seth_js]

I recently picked up a Coleman single burner stove and a Coleman grill for $65 for both. I will be using them for the first time this weekend.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=9924-700&categoryid=2010

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5431B705&categoryid=2010

[Big_Geek]

This all depends on what you're going to use the stove to cook. my "breakfast stove" of choice is the JetBoil with the Java Press. I boil up some water, dump in a few packs of instant oatmeal, then eat out of the cup. If I wanted some coffee (if I remembered to bring coffee), I just drop in the ground bean after boiling up the water. I let it brew for a few minutes, then press the grounds to the bottom and drink away. The cup also acts as a thermos since it is dual-layer. You can buy a kit to that will convert this to a regular burner for use with your own pots for less than $20. I highly recommend this stove.

http://www.jetboil.com

I have a Coleman two-burner propane stove (I don't believe they make my model anymore). But, I would replace it with one of the two-burner models with the piezo-electric starter. It's a little thinner than mine.

I also have the tree and fuel line to use my lantern and stove at the same time off a bulk tank. I was using 20# tanks for this, but they're massive when packing. So, I downsized to a 5# tank (just came in today) and it looks like it's going to work really well.

Fat_Man and I usually travel together and when you combine our equipment, we can really cook it up!

[Green Ganesha]

I have two basic camping configurations: with or without trailer.

The trailer's galley includes a Partner Steel two-burner stove.
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It's rugged, easy to clean, and puts out a lot of heat. My only complaint is the burners could be spaced at least a couple inches further apart.

I supplement that with a JetBoil, which I only use for boiling water (mostly so the cup doesn't end up with a discordant chili+oatmeal+coffee flavor medley). If I need a third burner, I can convert the JetBoil to Group Cooking System mode.
http://jetboil.com/img/prod/gcs.jpg

For grilling, I mostly use a Pit2Go collapsible firepit (http://www.pit2go.com).
http://www.pit2go.com/firepit.gif
Or I borrow the Pit2Go's grate and perch it atop a traditional campfire.

When I'm trailer-less, I bring the (discontinued) Camp Chef two-burner River Runner stainless/aluminum stove.
http://www.ottomobiles.com/images/camp%20chef/stoves/ats50l.jpg

I'll usually throw in the JetBoil too, just in case.

I also have—and really wish I could justify using—the Kelly Kettle, with pot support system.
http://www.safariquip.co.uk/acatalog/kelly_pot_supprt.jpg
I love the Kelly Kettle for its simplicity, history, and rugged versatility. But given the more efficient and compact modern alternatives, I'm hard-pressed to gather twigs for the Kelly. I secretly pray for the day I accidentally forget to refill the propane tanks and run out mid-expedition. Kelly Kettle to the rescue...!

[ckkone]

I have a one of those butane stoves like baz, my wife bought it for shabu shabu and I steel it for camping trips. We got it at some asian grocery store for about $20.

[toyrunner95]

ok this might sound weird and maybe a little off topic but i have been playing with the idea of taking apart a stove and trying to put it in the tailgate of a truck or 4runner. a truck would be preferable because there is no window to deal with. i figure if i cut a couple of the "divits" out of the tailgate i can mount some burners. of course the fuel would be seperate so if i got rear ended it woulden't explode. then if i cover that with a piece of that hard white cutting board materieal or counter top materieal, i can have an inset, permenant stove! i wouldent have to deal with trying to cram it in somewhere and i can have 4 or 5 burners, just cover each with a cutting board and use as many as i need at a time!

for the bbq im thinking a wooden stick with a fationed sharp end speared through whatever then putting it on a fire.

[Shovel]

ok this might sound weird and maybe a little off topic but i have been playing with the idea of taking apart a stove and trying to put it in the tailgate of a truck or 4runner.
.

A while back, I saw a show truck that had a bunch of older Rockford Fosgate amplifiers mounted inside the tailgate - the first thing that went through my mind when I saw it was "hmm... kinda looks like a BBQ grill.."

[SAR_Squid79]

I have always relied on and preferred cooking over an open fire. I have a Weber Hinged Cooking Grid (http://www.weberstuff.com/Cooking-Grid-Hinged.html?productid=323) that I carry with me.

I used to do alot of backpacking. I have a Jetboil Group Cooking System. I have the big pot, as well as 2 of the JetBoil "companion cups".

I love the jetboil for boiling water, cooking ramen noodles, or those camping meals such as "Mountain House" or "Natural High". BUT anybody that has camped with me knows - I like to go all out in pleasing my stomach. I love cooking steaks, pork chops, bacon, eggs, etc.

This past Spring when I went to Moab - WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE FIRES - I attempted to cook sausage and eggs in the JetBoil Pot, and all it did was burn the food, and piss me off. I'm going to have to invest in a grill or burner of some sort.

[benedmonson]

I had just decided to get the partner steel 2 burner stove from www.adventuretrailers.com when I stopped by wal-mart the other day and found the Brinkmann 2 burner stanless steel for only $40.00! First I know the Partner Steel will be much better, but I just had to buy the Brinkmann to test it out. After 2 weeks (6 nights) cooking on it I must admit I'm a little impressed with its light weight, functioning wind screens, quick piezo lighting and ability to simmer food. If it is able to work off of larger propane tank with an optional hose then it might be a winner for under $50.00!!!
I'm researching the adapter for using it with a 5 LB. propane tank now if anybody has any input on it.

for picture purpose only http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=204279



Cheers,

Ben Edmonson
telluride, co
www.benedmonson.com

[absolute]

I saw this one yesterday, before I saw this post, and was thinking it would be great in my truck or jeep. It packs up to about the size of a phone book!

I put it on my list for Santa!!:)

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/Detail.asp?Product_id=5442-A50

[computeruser]

I've been really pleased with this little Coleman multi-fuel unit. I've been content traveling with this stove, a skillet, and a saucepan for boiling water. Judiciously packed, the entire cooking kit, extra Coleman fuel, plus full dish cleaning gear, can fit in a single file box-sized container, with a bit of room to spare.

I'd probably go for a larger stove if I didn't have a Jeep Wrangler, but this one gets the job done nicely and only cost about $50.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/533A700_500.jpg

[Green Ganesha]

I stopped by wal-mart the other day and found the Brinkmann 2 burner stanless steel for only $40.00! If it is able to work off of larger propane tank with an optional hose then it might be a winner for under $50.00!!! I'm researching the adapter for using it with a 5 LB. propane tank now if anybody has any input on it.

Ben,

I have one of those stoves, and went through a series of headaches getting it to work with larger propane tanks. Things may have changed in the last couple years, but check your owner's manual. When I bought mine (actually it came installed on a first-generation Campa trailer), the instructions warned not to use anything except 14.1-oz. or 16.4-oz. LP cylinders. Paradoxically, Brinkmann did sell a bulk-cylinder adapter. However, when connected to a 11-pound propane tank, the stove barely lit, and could only muster a very impotent simmer. The Campa engineers actually redesigned Brinkmann's adapter, changing the characteristics of an internal spring. This fixed the problem, but Brinkmann was uninterested in incorporating Campa's redesign.

Long story short, I ended up switching to the Partner Steel stove.

[benedmonson]

Ben,

I have one of those stoves, and went through a series of headaches getting it to work with larger propane tanks. Things may have changed in the last couple years, but check your owner's manual. When I bought mine (actually it came installed on a first-generation Campa trailer), the instructions warned not to use anything except 14.1-oz. or 16.4-oz. LP cylinders. Paradoxically, Brinkmann did sell a bulk-cylinder adapter. However, when connected to a 11-pound propane tank, the stove barely lit, and could only muster a very impotent simmer. The Campa engineers actually redesigned Brinkmann's adapter, changing the characteristics of an internal spring. This fixed the problem, but Brinkmann was uninterested in incorporating Campa's redesign.

Long story short, I ended up switching to the Partner Steel stove.



This is why I'm a member of this forum! Great information and because of it will most likely return to wal-mart and order the partner steel. By the way how well does the partner steel do on propane useage??


Ben

[Green Ganesha]

By the way how well does the partner steel do on propane useage??

I wouldn't be surprised if the Partner Steel stove is relatively propane-greedy, based on its heat output, but an 11- or 20-pound tank lasts a LONG time, no matter what. I can't give you anything quantitative though.

[Green Ganesha]

I am looking at this solution:

http://www.brunton.com/images/catalog/wrr3_L.jpg

Brunton, wind river range: http://www.brunton.com/product.php?id=400

I just noticed that Cabela's has this stove on sale for $299.98.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0038097517227a

[grahamfitter]

These statements should be taken with a pinch of salt because, while I can slice, dice and clean like a pro, when it comes to the art of cooking I'm not worthy. Anyway...

We use a double-burner Century propane stove and a portable gas grill which are hooked up to a 10 Lb bulk propane tank.

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The nice thing about the Century stove its cheap, reliable, slim and reasonably easy to clean. The fuel line can be left connected to the bulk propane hose which can also be coiled up inside the stove. The grill works OK - not as well as the larger grill we have at home - but then its only $20. The disadvantage is it doesn't pack smaller and only lasts two seasons before vanishing in a pile of rust. At least no cleaning is required!

I like this setup because it meets the chef's one basic requirement: Grill and cook for four plus people without needing to light a charcoal grill or a camp fire. One fill of propane lasts all summer, too.

However it is rather bulky and I have a Jeep Wrangler so I'd prefer to carry less stuff around without losing any culinary functionality.

One thing I've been idly thinking about is to replace the stove and grill with two double-burner Coleman gasoline stoves with a cast-iron grill pan on one of them.

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I think that the whole thing will be significantly smaller than what we've got, even with a can of white gas, and we can use unleaded if that runs out.

However neither of us have ever used a Coleman gas stove before, nor a grill pan. I've read that both are fine for cooking but I've not read of them being used together.

So questions to the many expert chefs here:


Will a grill pan work on a gasoline stove?
What kind of gas mileage do these stoves get?


Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Cheers,
Graham

[mountainpete]

So questions to the many expert chefs here:


Will a grill pan work on a gasoline stove?
What kind of gas mileage do these stoves get?


Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Cheers,
Graham

Not an expert chef, although I do have many years of eating experience..:chowtime: .

I regularly use a camp griddle pan with my propane camp stove (have used it with a Coleman white gas model too). In many ways it is my first choice for sunny side up eggs and pancakes. You do have a cooler spot in the middle of the two burners, but it is very managable.

As far as fuel, that really depends on how you cook. On a propane model with two burners on high, it probably lasts for just over an hour. With only one on a very low simmer, I wouldn't be surprised to see over 4 hours. For a white gas model, you would probably get around 90 - 100 minutes with a fullish tank with both burners on high. One burner on slow simmer, around 6 hours.

Pete

[mountainpete]

Just to add Graham... I use that exact setup 90% of the time. 2 burner stove plus a mini BBQ style grill. I do love to indulge in a steak or two while out camping and love using the mini BBQ. It also does wonders on small frozen pizzas.

Pete

[grahamfitter]

Just to add Graham... I use that exact setup 90% of the time. 2 burner stove plus a mini BBQ style grill. I do love to indulge in a steak or two while out camping and love using the mini BBQ. It also does wonders on small frozen pizzas.

Pete

Thanks for the speedy response, Pete!

It looks like its possible to cook a good steak on a grill pan - with the grooved side up - does this work on a camp stove too? Does it matter that there's no lid to keep the heat in?

Cheers,
Graham

[mountainpete]

Thanks for the speedy response, Pete!

It looks like its possible to cook a good steak on a grill pan - with the grooved side up - does this work on a camp stove too? Does it matter that there's no lid to keep the heat in?

Cheers,
Graham

It will work and I have done it in the past with a two sided , but I'll warn you that it's not going to taste as good as on a true grill. With a BBQ grill you get tasty flareups, etc, that make a steak a steak. You're basically going one step above a frying pan steak that way.

A grooved grill pan does do things like sausages and peppers well though.

Pete

[lx450landcruiser]

miele km406 in built in drawer this thing is as efficient as they come

[One Arm Steve]

http://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pdDdNljUws4AL0zm40zMzuf3Qz77uuxLacATTKPBGilTN32F o7G1pvQmebcLjMcwXrHrpX8Mub20

I use all the ones you mentioned and a few more: Propane Smoker for fish and ribs, and a propane oven for the pizza!!

[Green Ganesha]

miele km406 in built in drawer this thing is as efficient as they come

Holy jaw-dropper! Is that a $900+ burner sliding out the back of your truck...?

[lx450landcruiser]

Holy jaw-dropper! Is that a $900+ burner sliding out the back of your truck...?


It is if you pay retail but who does that? :jump: :jump: i didnt pay half that for this one and it was brand new. Im still amazed at how efficient this thing is. I have had it in the back of my truck for 2 years not and still havent used up a 20 pound tank and ive used it for weeks at a time as well as every time i go boarding at lunch time

[Green Ganesha]

It is if you pay retail but who does that? :jump: :jump: i didnt pay half that for this one and it was brand new. Im still amazed at how efficient this thing is. I have had it in the back of my truck for 2 years not and still havent used up a 20 pound tank and ive used it for weeks at a time as well as every time i go boarding at lunch time

Sounds like a great setup (and at a more reasonable price than my cursory Googling suggested). Has it held up well to the elements (vibration, dust, moisture)?

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Might make a fun little Christmas gift............ (http://www.lanternnet.com/)



http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/2000Cooker.jpg

[lx450landcruiser]

Sounds like a great setup (and at a more reasonable price than my cursory Googling suggested). Has it held up well to the elements (vibration, dust, moisture)?

It has held up very well ive done several long trips including a 2 week trip from washington state down to moab then across and up the pacific highway back to washington we used it every day at least 2 times a day most times for breakfast too so it has lots of use. i have it hooked up on a quick disconect hose so i just pull it out and pop the hose on and go, also has electric igition (you can still light it with out)

[rusty_tlc]

The other day I was going to make a stir fry for dinner. We had just spent the entire day cleaning house, including the stove. Since I usually draw kitchen and bathroom duty when we do house work I wasn't in a hurry to grease up my freshly cleaned stove.

So I hauled out the Coleman two burner gasoline stove and set it up on the back porch. I have to say it get the Wok hotter than our house natural gas stove and cooks better. I started using a propane stove when camping a while ago for fuel uniformity, ie:stove, bbq and lamp all use the same fuel. But I think I'm going back to a gasoline stove for cooking.

Back packers will tell you that pound for pound gasoline is the best value for BTU's delivered Vs weight/bulk. It also performs better at higher altitudes.

[spressomon]

The other day I was going to make a stir fry for dinner. We had just spent the entire day cleaning house, including the stove. Since I usually draw kitchen and bathroom duty when we do house work I wasn't in a hurry to grease up my freshly cleaned stove.

So I hauled out the Coleman two burner gasoline stove and set it up on the back porch. I have to say it get the Wok hotter than our house natural gas stove and cooks better. I started using a propane stove when camping a while ago for fuel uniformity, ie:stove, bbq and lamp all use the same fuel. But I think I'm going back to a gasoline stove for cooking.

Back packers will tell you that pound for pound gasoline is the best value for BTU's delivered Vs weight/bulk. It also performs better at higher altitudes.


Yep...white gas gets you more BTU's than propane and propane gets you 18% hotter flame, like to like, than NG. I don't know the actual % difference between white gas and propane but have experimented over the years with backpack stoves and verified your results. Propane is just cleaner and generally easier to transport (1lb bottles) than gas. But white gas definitely beats propane and even the propane/butane blends popular today at altitude: Everything's a compromise.

[jginca]

Just found this. Looks like a good deal.


http://www.amazon.com/Brunton-Wind-River-Range-Stove/dp/B000FKQJ5A/ref=sr_1_73?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1197594187&sr=1-73

[Martyn]

Just found this. Looks like a good deal.


http://www.amazon.com/Brunton-Wind-River-Range-Stove/dp/B000FKQJ5A/ref=sr_1_73?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1197594187&sr=1-73

Brunton makes great product. Unfortunately this stove uses a lot of propane.

[Martyn]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Partner Steel stove is relatively propane-greedy, based on its heat output, but an 11- or 20-pound tank lasts a LONG time, no matter what. I can't give you anything quantitative though.

In comparison to the Brunton stove the Partner Steel stove uses very little propane. I think the high pressure regulator has a lot to do with that.

[LC/LR4Life]

Just curious who is using:

1. Two burner stove
2. Grill, Hibachi type
3. Backpack type stove, MSR etc.
4. OR???

Why you are using it also?
:camping:

I have been using a single burner backpacking stove for years. I had a Peak 1 for a few years, wore that out and went to Walmart and got the Coleman dual fuel 533 they have on the shelf. Lately though since I am going to be focusing my efforts on building up my LC 100 series for expedition 4 wheeling I am thinking of a 2 burner Coleman dual fuel stove.

I keep my little backpacking stove in that green sterilite container there and pull it out whenever I need it....

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/TKite2006/IMAG0020.jpg

[LC/LR4Life]

Might make a fun little Christmas gift............ (http://www.lanternnet.com/)



http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/2000Cooker.jpg

I might mention that those DIETZ lanterns are the real deal, not the cheap look-alikes you would find at wally world. They are made for real use, and heavy construction etc.
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[LC/LR4Life]

I've been really pleased with this little Coleman multi-fuel unit. I've been content traveling with this stove, a skillet, and a saucepan for boiling water. Judiciously packed, the entire cooking kit, extra Coleman fuel, plus full dish cleaning gear, can fit in a single file box-sized container, with a bit of room to spare.

I'd probably go for a larger stove if I didn't have a Jeep Wrangler, but this one gets the job done nicely and only cost about $50.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/533A700_500.jpg

Hey! that's what I have been carrying around for about 8 years now.... :camping:

[egn]

We like our electric Silex Kitchen Genius very much:
http://www.silex-de.com/PDF/englisch/61090.pdf

It is located in my outdoor kitchen in one of my truck boxes. I just drop the door to horizontal position and I have a place where it can be placed.

We use it now since more than 6 years and are very happy with it. The result is very good, very fast and it is versatile and easily cleaned. So we have more time in enjoying the places we are.

Of course, you need electricity for it. Our inverter can supply this quietly. The amount of energy needed is about 50 Ah/12 V for a meal of 3-4 steaks.