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Pedro
04-06-2010, 08:40 PM
Hi Guys (and Gals)
I am looking for prices on both of these bumpers, I cannot find them anywhere on the interwebs. and my local reseller is having a hard time finding anything on these two.
Delux: 3421410
Sahara: 3921120
Both are for a Prado 120, and I am hoping to fit them to my Lexus GX 470. I have an event in a few months I need to get this prepped for or go back to my old vehicle for.
Thanks for your help!
Pedro
flyingwil
04-06-2010, 09:48 PM
Pm'ed you
Pedro
04-06-2010, 10:25 PM
Thanks Will.
Is Lexwoody a regular on here as well? I found a few posts by him.
I would be interested in the difficulties in installing other than the fender trimming.
racingjason
04-06-2010, 11:13 PM
Hi Wil,
Can you PM the price for an ARB winch bumper for a 60 series while you are at it.
Cheers,
Jason
lexwoody
04-07-2010, 02:37 AM
Hi Guys (and Gals)
I am looking for prices on both of these bumpers, I cannot find them anywhere on the interwebs. and my local reseller is having a hard time finding anything on these two.
Delux: 3421410
Sahara: 3921120
Both are for a Prado 120, and I am hoping to fit them to my Lexus GX 470. I have an event in a few months I need to get this prepped for or go back to my old vehicle for.
Thanks for your help!
Pedro
I got my winch bull bar from 4wheelparts.
flyingwil
04-07-2010, 06:28 AM
Hi Wil,
Can you PM the price for an ARB winch bumper for a 60 series while you are at it.
Cheers,
Jason
Jason,
PM'ed ya.
AlexJet
04-07-2010, 11:14 AM
Wil at Sierra Expeditions is the guy who got me my ARB bumper and I'd buy another one from him when I needed. Highly recommend his services.
LexWoody is often on another forum (Toyota120)
Pedro
05-27-2011, 01:03 AM
Ok maybe Flyingwill can answer this one. My bumper came in today. but it is missing the chrome hoop and the rubber bumper pieces. I am getting stonewalled by everybody now.
I guess this is what I get for not dealing with a forum vendor.
so basically I have the bumper and the fit kit, but nothing else. :violent-smiley-031:
ol' scott
05-27-2011, 02:18 AM
Pedro,
I'm dealing with much the same thing right now. I ordered mine from 4wheelparts whatever and they forgot to send the chrome bar with it. So far they've been pretty good about it, found out sometimes they ship in one box other times in two (depending upon the manufacture date?) and this time they forgot to ship both boxes. They're trying to get it send directly to the house so I don't have to drive over to Atlanta.
I'm lucky I guess, I've heard bad things about some vendors. That's why it's always smart to go with somebody from the forum, esp. Sierra Expeditions.
Good luck and keep on them, they owe you something and you should get it. Hopefully somebody will chime in, just know you're not alone.
Pedro
05-27-2011, 02:24 AM
They are telling me that it does not come with the bumper. And that I have to spend $300 more for the hoop and buffers. I have a hard time believing that it comes bare.
Jeff Wanamog
05-27-2011, 02:29 AM
I really hate to say this after the fact, but you should have dealt with wil. It is hard to find a company that has better customer service. I bought a fuel can from him that was defective and he sent me a new nozzle when the manufacturer wouldn't stand behind their product. I have purchased several items from Wil and it is amazing how fast he ships.
Jeff
Pedro
05-27-2011, 02:45 AM
Apparently it does not matter. The sahara bar no longer comes with the hoop or rubber buffers. WTF ARB?
Granted they have offered to give me wholesale pricing. But it does not say this ANYWHERE on their site (us or au). Nor are the part numbers listed as options. This kind of stuff really makes me regret spending my money with ARB.
Toyotero
05-27-2011, 04:25 AM
Can you PM me your price for an ARB Bumper for a 2003 Tacoma. Specifically, the same as what Exped West put on their Tacoma.
Thanks.
cruiseroutfit
05-27-2011, 05:47 AM
Apparently it does not matter. The sahara bar no longer comes with the hoop or rubber buffers. WTF ARB?
I can't speak for your application but realize many didn't want the chrome upper hoop and preferred the bottom bar only. The buffers are sold separately because if you have the upper hoop they need a big hole in them, if you don't do the upper bare you don't ;)
Granted they have offered to give me wholesale pricing. But it does not say this ANYWHERE on their site (us or au). Nor are the part numbers listed as options. This kind of stuff really makes me regret spending my money with ARB.
ARB's application guides are very specific that you need to order the parts individually and you can't fault the manufacture for a mistake apparently made by the vendor. Imo its crucial that the vendor be familiar with the product they sell or they be willing to ask the questions they need to ask. This isn't a new change fwiw, I'm looking at the June 2010 ARB import application guide (as that bumper isn't for a Americas application) and it clearly states the different options and that the parts must be ordered separately to fit your desired configuration and this has been the case with many (all?) Sahara bars. I can definitely understand your frustration, hopefully everything gets resolved easily for you,.
Pedro
05-27-2011, 10:13 AM
I got the part number from arbusa. No US reseller wanted to touch this before I came to them with the part number. So it is their own people that mislead here. (this was all before I found this place).
Brighton
05-27-2011, 02:34 PM
So..did you order the hoop and rubber bumper direct through ARB?
Pedro
05-27-2011, 02:49 PM
The guy didn't call back, he emailed me instead. So I missed them being open. Today though.
Pedro
05-27-2011, 02:51 PM
I really hate to say this after the fact, but you should have dealt with wil. It is hard to find a company that has better customer service. I bought a fuel can from him that was defective and he sent me a new nozzle when the manufacturer wouldn't stand behind their product. I have purchased several items from Wil and it is amazing how fast he ships.
Jeff
Don't hate to say it. I already admitted the same thing in my post yesterday. But it still remains that they no longer sell the Sahara bar as a complete bumper. It still surprises me that they don't include at least one set of the buffers (rubber bumper things that cover up the welding job on the nose).
cruiseroutfit
05-27-2011, 03:17 PM
Don't hate to say it. I already admitted the same thing in my post yesterday. But it still remains that they no longer sell the Sahara bar as a complete bumper. It still surprises me that they don't include at least one set of the buffers (rubber bumper things that cover up the welding job on the nose).
Again, the buffers are different. It is kinda ironic, people used to complain that ARB forced them to buy the upper hoop with the Sahara bar before they started selling it standalone :D
Get your parts, fall back in love with the stellar bumper and next go around work with an ARB dealer that knows the product line :D
ol' scott
05-27-2011, 03:22 PM
I'm a little hesitant to believe that the hoop and buffers aren't included anymore. Is there a chance this is just the seller trying to get out of doing what they should do?
Looking at the ARB site it says that "Some features may vary between bars". What kind of vehicle did you put this on?
ETA: Kurt knows his stuff, listen to him, ignore me.
Pedro
05-27-2011, 03:58 PM
I get that the buffers are different for when you run the hoop and if you don't. All I am saying is ship it with the no hole version if that is how you ship the bumper. Then list the hoop and second buffer set as an optional item in the catalog.
I understand the actuality of the situation here, and I have a good offer from ARBUSA to remedy this. And the parts are on their way as soon as they get off the boat.
It is a Sahara bar for a Prado 120 being installed on a Lexus GX470.
cruiseroutfit
05-29-2011, 06:42 PM
I get that the buffers are different for when you run the hoop and if you don't. All I am saying is ship it with the no hole version if that is how you ship the bumper. Then list the hoop and second buffer set as an optional item in the catalog.
And then the next customers starts a thread about how he had to pay for buffers he didn't use and that ARB should pull them out before they ship them ;) ARBUSA is a distributor and they send pallet loads of parts to customers all over North America. They can only assume that the customer is ordering what they need or that they have the rest of the needed part in stock. Roof racks, suspensions, some lockers, etc... all require special fit parts for different applications and wants/needs. That said, had this not been an odd ball scenario bumper... I'm confident they would have made mention of it.
I understand the actuality of the situation here, and I have a good offer from ARBUSA to remedy this. And the parts are on their way as soon as they get off the boat.
Right on, I'm excited to see the finished product on your GX, be sure to post some pics! :cool:
Pedro
05-29-2011, 07:11 PM
I will definitely post some pictures. The guys over at ARBUSA are awaiting them as well.
Jeff Wanamog
05-29-2011, 09:04 PM
I wonder why ARB is choosing to not make the Sahara for the Tacoma? I would prefer to not have the hoop.
Jeff
Redline
05-30-2011, 12:46 AM
Instead of starting a new thread, and because this one is active and relevant-
Sahara vs. Deluxe Bull Bar For 07+ Tundra
Friday I was very close to placing an order for a Sahara front bumper and full OME suspension for my new Tundra. Chores got in the way and while running errands I was lucky to see a lifted Tundra (too tall) with the ARB Deluxe Bull Bar on it. I had also seriously considered the Deluxe Bar before deciding on the Sahara. Seeing the Deluxe Bar made me rethink everything.
It's hard to find good pictures of the two ARB bumpers for the 2007+ Tundras, but after weeks of searching I found enough of both to satisfy my mind. I think both will look good on my white truck, it's just a matter of how much weight I want to tolerate out there on the nose, and if I get grille protection or not.
Because suspension is so related to the weight of other modifications, the ARB bumpers lead me to the OME coils instead of adjustable coil-overs because the 613 springs seem to be the stoutest and most appropriate for heavy loads. There doesn't seem to be many (any?) adjustable coil-overs designed for the hundreds of pounds of weight I might add in front of the hood.
It's also hard to get good numbers about the true weight of theses bumpers. ARB has shipping weights, but that doesn't tell me how much the bumper weighs (exactly). Both the Sahara and Deluxe Bar are shipped on a pallet. I've been told the shipping weights are:
ARB Sahara 175-lb
ARB Deluxe Bar 315-325-lb (yes, both weights have been stated).
Even if there is a big difference in the pallet and crating, seems the Deluxe bar is much heavier than the Sahara, at least 100-lb. Is this difference only the big grille guard on the Deluxe or is there a difference in the construction/material on the two ARB bars?
Related to weight is the fact that for the Tundra these bumpers are designed for the M12000+ winches so this is what I plan to use, but they are also very heavy (136-lb w/ steel cable). Even with synthetic winch rope, this is lots of weight to add to the nose of any truck.
I was told by a very knowledgable ARB dealer that I need to order the bumper pads and fog lights as 'extras' to go with the Sahara, they are not included. I'm happy the chrome bar is 'an option' on the Sahara bar because I don't care for it and wasn't considering the Sahara bumper until I learned I can now get it without the chrome grille hoop.
Kurt?
redthies
05-30-2011, 01:30 AM
I would call ARB USA in Seattle and get it sorted out. They will know if it is included or not (I think it is). They will also deal with their resellers if they know what is good for their business!
ARB Deluxe Bar 315-325-lb (yes, both weight have been stated).
Even if there is a big difference in the pallet and crating, seems the Deluxe bar is much heavier than the Sahara, at least 100-lb. Is this difference only the big grille guard on the Deluxe or is there a difference in the construction/material on the two ARB bars?
Don't know about them for your truck, I have a 4x4 mini truck with a Deluxe Bull Bar on it. The Deluxe Bull Bar was designed to protect the vehicle when a red kangaroo crossed paths with it. No roos around here, but so far I've bounced 4 deer with mine and only got scratches from the antlers on one of them and another's head dented the top of the hood on. The hood was minor and I could easily go on my way. A previous deer hit, before I had the ARB bumper, had disabled the truck so I had to limp home. I can say I'm happy with it. BTW, my Deluxe Bull Bar bumper has the hoop that goes all the way across the front. That hoop protects the headlights as well as the grill area.
Oh yeah, get a front suspension upgrade to carry the extra weight. It is nice that OME has suspension setups designed for the weight of the bumpers with winches. I don't have a winch installed in mine, but the added weight of the bumper alone made the mini truck much more likely to front end bottom out.
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