Scepter MFC Group Buy

[SC-Surfer]

I have put together a group buy for the Scepter MFC fuel cans. New stock, in OD green, as well as water cans and accessories.

Originally discussed here: http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39541

If you follow the thread, I had issues with my first vendor, and closed out the thread. I have a new vendor here in the US, and I sent email out to all those who initially showed interest. I had planned to limit the buy in to only those individuals. However, the actual totals ordered are a little less than the initial interest shown so I have room for about 30 more cans on the pallet.

I am still taking orders for MFC cans, MWC water cans, spouts, and Viton gaskets. The order goes in to the vendor on Monday the 19th.

MFC: $50
MWC:$40
Spout: $30
Gaskets: $10

If interested, PM me for details on how to buy in.

[Skim]

What is your expected turn around time ?

I am interested in one water and one gas.

Are they all OD ?

[Mlachica]

Yeah, I'm interested in a spout. Curious too how long the turn around time is.

[Nikos]

I woulk like 4 red gas cans. Thanks. and 2 of the plastic spouts.

[rugbier]

if this are metal cans I would like 4 fuel.

But I need to be certain they are.

Please let me know as well as the expected turn around

Thanks

[syncrodoka]

scepter cans are the military plastic fuel cans.

[skibum315]

Interested ... mostly a lurker here, but am quite active on The New X (www.thexterra.org ... 2nd Gen Site).

How would final shipping work out ... you'd break up the pallet and ship out to each of the GB participants? I'm assuming we'd be responsible for that shipping cost, then right?

Edit: Just read through your initial post in the other thread ... makes sense on the shipping. I have to check tonight, I'll let you know (e-mail to the address posted in the other thread and/or PM) tonight where I stand.

[skibum315]

SC-Surfer ... sent you an e-mail, at the address you listed in the other thread (beachdogonline@me.com).

[OVRLND]

PM sent

[syncrodoka]

I believe that group buy is done.
There are NEW metal Nato cans coming available in june though. There are the standard small mouth NATO cans that everybody is used to seeing- http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1718

[ryguy]

Did this work out?

[mcm4090]

Interested ... mostly a lurker here, but am quite active on The New X (www.thexterra.org ... 2nd Gen Site).



Odd thing to add...:smilies27

[squatch]

is this still going? which gasket is which? black =diesel grey =gas ??? could someone let me know?

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

They are enroute, but I don't know if there are any extra cans leftover. The OP should know how many/if any are left over.

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

is this still going? which gasket is which? black =diesel grey =gas ??? could someone let me know?

Black is diesel, grey is the special petrol and they come with the diesel gasket.

[Ludedude]

So any updates on these? Last contact from the seller was two weeks ago promising an update on shipping times.

[Ludedude]

Anyone, Bueller?

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Taken care of.

[twblanset]

He posted an update on the original purchase site. Check it out.

Copied from the site:
5/4/10 Update.

Ok, so here’s the current status... I got back from 4 days on the road to find an email from the supplier stating that since I’m a new account I need to verify that I’m doing business in a non CARB state. I turned around, and drove to Nevada and purchased a local business license. Per my conversation with the sales team, that will suffice. I’m told that they sell these to non-CARB states under an exemption form the EPA, and they are audited annually. How the EPA is in bed with CARB is still unclear to me. Anyway...been to Reno and back...Business license purchased and sent off.


On the up side I’m now pretty much fully legit to buy these things...down side, I wasn’t planning on ever doing it again. It’s been a lot of hoops and documentation to deal with. Seems that buying some plastic containers is more difficult than buying contraband on the black market. I love my country, but sometimes I wonder how we got so far off track...but I digress.


Thanks for being patient...I want my order as bad as you all do! I’ll post shipping info as soon as I have it.

[barlowrs]

Wow, poor guy is having to go through a bunch of hoops for these.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

[Ludedude]

That's screwed up. Those Commie bastards in CARB sure know how to get their hands around the throat of free America. :Wow1:

Thanks for the update.

[crusader]

Only problem I see here....

...is that now he is buying a pallet of highly-regulated, EPA-restricted items AS A BUSINESS and distributing them to everyone on the list regardless of their eligibality. Now HE will be "on the hook" as a business to the EPA (who enjoy handing out large fines to non-compliant businesses).


I might feel a bit safer doing this as an individual. I don't think I'd risk an enormous fine by using a business license to purchase these, but that's just me. Ever wonder why you can't find even a tiny business willing to sell these cans any more? They don't want to risk a huge fine.

...Just playing devil's advocate here...

[go4aryd]

Anyone have a source in western CA?

[SC-Surfer]

Yup, CARB sucks, and Yup, I'm on the hook as a business....sort of. This ain't my first rodeo... I'm not as exposed as it sounds. Thing is, I'm a good American, if I felt for a minute that I was violating the spirit of American law, I'd not bother, but this is a law that restricts some of us from owning a product others are allowed to own. A completely harmless product no less. Nuff said.
To those of you who are in on this round, thanks for waiting. To everyone who missed out, sorry. Maybe I'll do it again. Not sure yet.

[Moody]

Gaskets anyone?

[Fireman78]

Of course I see the thread after it's all done. Sign me up for a next round if there is one. Thanks!

[barlowrs]

Gaskets anyone?

I have been wondering the same thing. Got my cans (THANKS!) but have not seen the gaskets yet.

Any news on gaskets?

[SoCal_80]

I have been wondering the same thing. Got my cans (THANKS!) but have not seen the gaskets yet.

Any news on gaskets?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-VITON-GASOLINE-GASKET-SCEPTER-MILITARY-FUEL-CAN-/120584473287?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c13650ac7

[cruiseroutfit]

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-VITON-GASOLINE-GASKET-SCEPTER-MILITARY-FUEL-CAN-/120584473287?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c13650ac7

Before you go that route, the gentleman on AR15.com was $5/each and local gasket companies can make them for approx. that price as well. For Utah locals Pioneer Gasket can and has made them in Viton.

[richying]

Try Tom @ asitom@atlanticbbn.net. $4.50/gasket.

[Steve Curren]

Wondering also about the gaskets, have sent a few e-mails with negative response.. Am happy with the cans I would just like to be able to use them..

[Steve Curren]

Anyone have any news on the gaskets, one guy called him and got voice mail. I have been leaving e-mails to no avail, are we out of luck?
If we have to make our own gaskets does anyone know the thickness of them so orders can be made?
Thanks...

[cruiseroutfit]

Anyone have any news on the gaskets, one guy called him and got voice mail. I have been leaving e-mails to no avail, are we out of luck?
If we have to make our own gaskets does anyone know the thickness of them so orders can be made?
Thanks...

I'll search for it when I get a minute but at one time I posted a blueprint of the gasket, OD, ID & thickness.

[Steve Curren]

Thanks so much, there are a few of us eager to use the cans. I really do appreciate your response and I am sure that there are others as well.
Thanks,
Steve

[cruiseroutfit]

Found it:
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=334312&postcount=5

[OVRLND]

DSTactical also sells both gaskets separately. Even to those of us in the US. Price unknown.

I missed out on this buy, and will be purchasing some MFCs direct (albeit, shipped and picked up Canada).

[RubberTramp]

just looked it up and DSTactical priced at $11.99.

[bucketosudz]

Just got a nozzle from DS Tactical. No issues at all, shipping was reasonable and fast. Just another thumbs up for the company for anyone looking to purchase from them.

[barlowrs]

Just placed an order for 2 seals from DS Tactical. Kinda sucks though becuase I think we paid for the seals from the goup buy, though I really cannot be mad, considering, he did get me two beautiful cans.

[Steve Curren]

What color are the gaskets designed for the gasoline? I found gray ones and all my other cans are black.. Also thanks for the info from everyone.

[OVRLND]

Steve,

Grey gaskets are for gasoline.
Black (Viton) gaskets are for diesel, gasoline and *other* fuels. They are the more expensive of the gaskets.

[Steve Curren]

So the black are for any fuel and the grey is for only gasoline..
Thanks, I found a grey one in the garage.

[cruiseroutfit]

Not so fast. Viton's can have a more grey appearance than the black rubber. Comparing OE Scepter gaskets in my cans, the Vition is in fact 'light black' whereas my rubbers are just plan black.

Rubber should not be used with gasoline and can cause the cap flange to crack and make removing the cap difficult. I don't know if the viton has any issue with diesel or not but given the fact Scepter specs rubber for the diesel I suspect there is some reason? Could be cost alone?

[VanGo]

Another ident is the yellow "slash" mark on the side of the rubber diesel gasket. This is typical with military issue (as in never changed out from vendor) and can help answer the question of the material used in the gasket. Follow Kurt's advise, and if unsure, take the time to post up a pic of what you are working with, these cans and accessories are VERY hard to source and a blown flange can be a costly/untimely demise.

[Steve Curren]

Kornfused, I have black ones on my original Scepter gasoline cans. I also found two greyish gaskets that I got from where I don't know. Am I correct in thinking that the grey looking ones are the ones I want? Also I appreciate your sending the info for the gaskets but I could not open it, I also e-mailed the man Tom in Pa asking if he still makes gaskets.
Sure is a hassle finding gaskets..
Thanks to everyone...

[laminarflow]

I too ordered two MFC's and told Monte I would head down to pick them up, as I live up the road in the Bay Area. Was out of town with work, sent an email, paid the shipping and he said he would send them following a bout with an illness. Now, radio silence. I hope this is just a busy work thing, a real deal illness, or a family dealio--but have any of you other guys heard from him regarding no shipped MFC's or gaskets. Always optimistic! Thanks!

[Steve Curren]

So far no response from him, no e-mail response, no phone response so your guess is as good as anyone's. I was able to find a man who makes the gaskests, thanks to the fine people here, and am ordering some today.
I hope that if he is sick he makes a complete recovery and is well. Please keep us informed as to your happenings.
Steve

[barlowrs]

I did get my cans, so I am pretty positive it was not any kind of scam or anything. He must be sick or something, so in that case, I wish him the best, as he did jump through a lot of hoops to get me these cans.

[Steve Curren]

I am in agreement, Monte has gone to a lot of work and I thank him for that. I am just in such a hurry to get some "cheap" gas that it's killing me, we are paying $2.45 right now and I know it's gonna go up..

[barlowrs]

I am in agreement, Monte has gone to a lot of work and I thank him for that. I am just in such a hurry to get some "cheap" gas that it's killing me, we are paying $2.45 right now and I know it's gonna go up..

Man, $2.45...i dont think I have seen that in years! we are at $3.20 now, and I thought that as pretty good, as it has been higher..haha

[Steve Curren]

If interested I found caps, cans and maybe gaskets, the company will ship to non-carb states.

[VanGo]

If interested I found caps, cans and maybe gaskets, the company will ship to non-carb states.

Steve-

Do tell.

Van

[Steve Curren]

Sent you a P.M.

[barlowrs]

ooo...PM please!

[freedomgns]

Thanks!

[barlowrs]

Just to let everyone know. I just got two Viton gaskets ($11.95 each) in the mail today from DS Tactical. I am in cali so they obviously will ship them to anywhere.

[millhouse]

I got my 2 tanks and nozzle. No gaskets though and same issue with no reply (or automated reply) from his email. Could you PM me with a link to the viton gaskets? Thanks!

[Steve Curren]

Check out page three of this thread.

[barlowrs]

I got my 2 tanks and nozzle. No gaskets though and same issue with no reply (or automated reply) from his email. Could you PM me with a link to the viton gaskets? Thanks!

This is where I got mine:

https://dstactical.com/product_info.php?products_id=911

[Mugless]

I received my cans but SC-Surfer, Monte McDonald, took me for $50. on the money I sent him for gaskets. Now he's silent. Anyone have his phone number?

[barlowrs]

I received my cans but SC-Surfer, Monte McDonald, took me for $50. on the money I sent him for gaskets. Now he's silent. Anyone have his phone number?

Dont think any of us got our gaskets. I do not mind though, I figure the money I sent for them can be his "fee" for jumping through all those hoops he had to go through to get cans into cali for me.

You can get gasket for 12 bucks on DStactical.

[Mugless]

After doing a little looking around on the internet on Monte McDonald it looks like this is the guys M.O, fills some orders, but not all, to pad his pocket. There is a thread at www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=353273, with people ordering stickers from him last year, he sent out some, then went silent, scrw3d the rest. He has in the past used these email addresses:
beachdogonline@me.com, sc_surfer@mac.com, Mcdonaldmontesc@mac.com,
montesc@me.com
I'm not very sympathetic to being taken.

As far as getting gaskets, I've already ordered some from tom, thanks.

[barlowrs]

After doing a little looking around on the internet on Monte McDonald it looks like this is the guys M.O, fills some orders, but not all, to pad his pocket. There is a thread at www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=353273, with people ordering stickers from him last year, he sent out some, then went silent, scrw3d the rest. He has in the past used these email addresses:
beachdogonline@me.com, sc_surfer@mac.com, Mcdonaldmontesc@mac.com,
montesc@me.com
I'm not very sympathetic to being taken.

As far as getting gaskets, I've already ordered some from tom, thanks.

Wow, good find! Intresting...I guess I am a little more upset now. But I still cant complain too much since I was able to get cans in Cali.....still shady though!

Actually, edit: I just read the thread posted above....it looks like everyone got what they wanted by then end...took a bit more trouble than anyone planned it seems like, but it seems he still pulled through.

Anyway, he pulled through with the cans, so I am happy.

[Steve Curren]

Might be in that area soon and I just might see about checking on Monte to make sure he's OK.

[syncrodoka]

Hold your horses guys. There is a very important issue being resolved.

[Steve Curren]

Are you speaking for him? What issue?

[syncrodoka]

Me? I don't like speaking for anybody really.
He will make things right when he can I am sure.
I have no interest in this sale but I know there is a problem. The kind you don't like hearing about.
Good day sir.

[Steve Curren]

I understand that problems arise and I have compassion. I would appreciate a word from him explaining as much or little as he can, like I said I am understanding. If you contact him please wish him the best and I do look forward to a good resolution for all especially him..
Good day to you also sir.

[Fireman78]

Would like a gasket and spout please.. anyone??? (My new Specter can is so AWESOME.) I wish I had more

[barlowrs]

Would like a gasket and spout please.. anyone??? (My new Specter can is so AWESOME.) I wish I had more

DSTactical.com carries both

[overthehillsandfaraway]

How many people have not received their order? I've sent him a couple of emails with no response.

[Ludedude]

How many people have not received their order? I've sent him a couple of emails with no response.

As far as I know everyone got their cans but no one got their gaskets, myself included.

[barlowrs]

As far as I know everyone got their cans but no one got their gaskets, myself included.

x2...I think everyone got cans and nozzles, just no gaskets

[overthehillsandfaraway]

I have not received anything from Monte. I ordered $310 worth of cans, spouts, and gaskets. I would like to know if there is anyone else who did not get his or her order. I am planning legal action and need to know who else is involved when discovery takes place.

[Ludedude]

I have not received anything from Monte. I ordered $310 worth of cans, spouts, and gaskets. I would like to know if there is anyone else who did not get his or her order. I am planning legal action and need to know who else is involved when discovery takes place.

:yikes:

[Steve Curren]

Myself and at least two others I know for sure did not receive the gaskets ordered from Monte.

[Ludedude]

Back to the top...

Where's Waldo...er Monte?

[laminarflow]

I did not receive my cans or my gaskets from Monte. He did take my $110 plus shipping and sent me a few emails about how he intended to send my MFC's the next day. Nothing. He has a history of this less than desirable behavior on other forums as well. I found at least four email addresses he was associated with and sent a plea to do the right thing to all of them--no luck. The Pay Pal dispute resolution process is a joke. He has subsequently gone incommunicado and my desire to track his sorry self down in Santa Cruz is overcome by common sense and just chalking this up to a learning experience. He is now sporting a big dent in his karma. So, those of you who got your cans, don't say good things. An man who is only an occasional thief is not worthy of a supportive post.

[Steve Curren]

I gather that he's in your neck of the woods and on Facebook.. Sorry you were totally taken but as we all know there are people like that in this world.

[crusader]

Uh Oh...

I reluctantly give SC surfer the benefit of the doubt for now, but it's tough. It has, after all, been more than a month since the cans have been received by others. And I see a similar history in the sticker debacle on the other board. I don't have any of my hard earned money tied up in this group buy, but I was the one who told him where to get the cans here in the USA, so I'll feel pretty bad if people get shafted.

Hopefully everyone used their credit card to purchase the cans through PayPal, so you can just go to your credit card company and have the charges rescinded. I think there is a time limit for doing this though, so you'd all better check!

[squatch]

what is montes last name?

[overthehillsandfaraway]

McDonald. Anyone who has not received the items they ordered please PM me. This includes gaskets. I am gathering correspondence, checks, paypal receipts, etc, which will be presented as evidence.

[crusader]

McDonald. Anyone who has not received the items they ordered please PM me. This includes gaskets. I am gathering correspondence, checks, paypal receipts, etc, which will be presented as evidence.

I don't want you to tip your hand, but I'm curious... Presented as evidence to whom? It's not like you can take your complaint to the legal system. PayPal, maybe. Your credit card company, sure. But that's all done on an individual basis as far as I know, not as a group.

[Maximus Ram]

McDonald. Anyone who has not received the items they ordered please PM me. This includes gaskets. I am gathering correspondence, checks, paypal receipts, etc, which will be presented as evidence.

Personally , I don't think I would be sending any type of paper work with personal information on it to someone I have never met...just saying. Nothing against you over, but one never knows these days. You show up on the forum with an issue and start to gather info...I would think that there would be another way of getting this resolved...:confused:

[crusader]

Personally , I don't think I would be sending any type of paper work with personal information on it to someone I have never met...just saying.

Good point--I'm not sure how "overthehillandfaraway" could possibly have been involved in the group buy, since he joind this forum late last month. Looks like somebody possibly trying to gather member's personal information??

[overthehillsandfaraway]

I don't want you to tip your hand, but I'm curious... Presented as evidence to whom? It's not like you can take your complaint to the legal system.

I sure can. A contract was broken.



Personally , I don't think I would be sending any type of paper work with personal information on it to someone I have never met.

I don't expect or want personal info from anybody. I simply want to hear from others that have not received the items they ordered. This will be used as supporting evidence. In court, this will show a pattern of fraud.



I'm not sure how "overthehillandfaraway" could possibly have been involved in the group buy, since he joind this forum late last month.

I've been a lurker for a while. I contacted Monte via PM to get in on the buy. Things do happen outside of forums you know.

[Caduceus]

I don't want you to tip your hand, but I'm curious... Presented as evidence to whom? It's not like you can take your complaint to the legal system. PayPal, maybe. Your credit card company, sure. But that's all done on an individual basis as far as I know, not as a group.

Sure you can. Did any of you send money through USPS, or recieve cans via USPS? If he's defaulting, I'm pretty sure it's mail fraud, which is a federal offense.

Besides, you can sue for anything. Literally. Getting it to stick is a bit harder.

[Steve Curren]

831-212-9501...

[slooowr6]

Sure you can. Did any of you send money through USPS, or recieve cans via USPS? If he's defaulting, I'm pretty sure it's mail fraud, which is a federal offense.

Besides, you can sue for anything. Literally. Getting it to stick is a bit harder.

If USPS money order is used to pay then it is a federal offense and USPS has investigator will look into it if you file a complaint.

[laminarflow]

So, in my continuing quest to find out where Monte and my very paid for MFC's had gone, I had sent emails to every email address I could find which resolved to the wayward Mr. McDonald. Today I received an avalanche of the below responses from one address. Did anybody else who had reached out to Monte get these? I just want my MFC's! :costumed-smiley-007

Autoreply...

Thanks for your order email or order.

If this email is regarding a question I'll get back to you in a day or so.

Thanks!

[Ludedude]

831-212-9501...

Whatcha' got there?

[Steve Curren]

A cell number that's answered with Monte's name when going to answering machine.

[Casper]

SO, I gotta ask, not to give anyone a bad time, but because I am generally uninformed on the subject.

Person A, can take Person B to court (and presumably hope to win) because person A paid for an ILLEGAL good and person B did not provide said ILLEGAL goods? SO basicaly what you are saying is I could sue a hooker (in Ca) for not providing a service I paid for, or I could sue the local Cocain dealer for not providing me with the powder I paid for?

I know the court system is a joke from time to time but has it really gotten that bad?

AGAIN, I am not trying to start anything. I really just would like to know if this is indeed true in the states. I am also not saying that owning an illigal gas can is anywhere NEAR as bad as the other referances I used. Heck, I own 9 Scepters as well, and fully believe (and hope one day again) they should be legal.

This really is just a question about sueing or taking legal action agaisnt someone for not providing an illegal product/service.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Josh
&
Porthos

[Steve Curren]

I am not aware that a gasket for a gas can is illegal. Also the can that is being spoken about is not illegal in Arizona or other states, just some states. I just bought parts and another Scepter can from a dealer. What is being talked about is the failure of Monte to even respond to people he owes money or items to. I for one would most likely be satisfied if he would just man up and tell people what is going on and hopefully things could be worked out. Seems like Monte has priors for actions similar and he should stop.

[Casper]

I am not aware that a gasket for a gas can is illegal. Also the can that is being spoken about is not illegal in Arizona or other states, just some states.

I was speaking for the can itself, not the gaskets. I should have been more clear.

As for them being legal to buy in some states, I was completely unaware of this. It was my impression that had been outlawed to purchase in the states, not just some of them. Thanks for the info, guess I should have researched more.

I realize what was done by the person who took $$ and didn't deliver is defiantly wrong, and I wasn't questioning that. I was just wondering about pursuing a legal action for a purchase of an illegal (wrongly assumed in this case) item.

Thanks for clearing me up on the cans. I need to go to Arizona now. :smiley_drive:

Cheers,
Josh
&
Porthos
:wings:

[overthehillsandfaraway]

So, in my continuing quest to find out where Monte and my very paid for MFC's had gone, I had sent emails to every email address I could find which resolved to the wayward Mr. McDonald. Today I received an avalanche of the below responses from one address. Did anybody else who had reached out to Monte get these? I just want my MFC's!

Autoreply...

Thanks for your order email or order.

If this email is regarding a question I'll get back to you in a day or so.

Thanks!

I got the same thing. I wonder if he was having computer problems?

[Ludedude]

He's had that same auto-responder on his paypal email address for months.

[greg mgm]

In his profile, under "statistics" it says last activity was 8-16-10.
That means he logged in on that date right?

Edit- Hey check this out- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1367358451

It's a facebook page for monte mcdonald. I'm not saying this is the OP in this thread, but the FB page and his stats on expo both say he's from santa cruz, has a VW syncro and is a member of the San Francisco paramedic association. Maybe too coincidental?

[kevinofcamelot]

I was going to order till I saw this post sometime ago.. Why hasnt anyone looked him up on people search or intelius, get his address and show up at his door?

[chimivee]

Just wondering if anybody has heard from Monte or has any new info...?

[Mugless]

I got his info to file a court claim.
I just left him a phone message to give him one last chance.

McDonald, Monte
340 7th Ave.
Santa Cruz, California 95062
(831) 212-9501

[daPitbull]

Wow, too bad to hear. I picked up my cans from his house a week or two after the shipment came in. I did see the whole (or at least most of it) shipment in his yard too. He surely didn't seem like the type that would take off and run, but you never know. I never recieved my gaskets either. It just seems odd since he was forth coming with his personal info (address, phone number, etc) for pick-up. Something must have happened to him.

[Moody]

Wow, too bad to hear. I never recieved my gaskets either. It just seems odd since he was forth coming with his personal info (address, phone number, etc) for pick-up. Something must have happened to him.

My thoughts exactly.

[Terrainist]

The can police got him, poor bugger.

[PAToyota]

Sorry to hear of the issues with the group buy, but good to find out about DSTactical. Going to order a nozzle and a few gaskets for the three cans I picked up locally.

[92hdj81]

I have sold a few diesel scepter cans and the guys that I have sold them to are getting gaskets from this guy:

Tom musselman
asitom@atlanticbbn.net

I think he charges 4.50 each shipped to your door.(Don't quote me on this)

Cheers

[cellularsteve2]

I have sold a few diesel scepter cans and the guys that I have sold them to are getting gaskets from this guy:

Tom musselman
asitom@atlanticbbn.net

I think he charges 4.50 each shipped to your door.(Don't quote me on this)

Cheers

I ordered two from Tom last month at $4.50 ea, and he shipped same day. I was very pleased. Thanks

[overthehillsandfaraway]

I got his info to file a court claim.
I just left him a phone message to give him one last chance.

McDonald, Monte
340 7th Ave.
Santa Cruz, California 95062
(831) 212-9501

I don't think Mr. McDonald is at this address anymore. I went there and was told that he now lives on 26th Ave. I drove down 26th but was unable to locate his residence. He allegedly lives near the beach (on 26th). Maybe somebody in Santa Cruz can track him down. I spoke to the Santa Cruz police department and they will handle this when the charges are filed.

[laminarflow]

It still burns me that I got ripped off when I tired to buy two MFC's from Monte McDonald. It was my first ExPo group buy and left a bitter taste. Did anybody ever track this cat down or get any satisfaction via a court of law? I had done some public record research to see where this guy might be, but I never really found an updated address. He is probably living off the grid with all those fraudulently obtained fuel cans. :)

[cruiseroutfit]

Did anyone file charges? If that Facebook link is him, then he is not too hard to track down.