discovery expedition rack

[toyrunner95]

hey, my brother just bought a 2003 land rover disco and he wants a roof rack like they used in the camel trophy, i dont know why its a pavement pounder, but sho knows.

does anyone know where i can get one? ive been looking and i cant find squat for the series 2.

[Dmarchand]

The company that used to make them went under and is restructuring so their are few to none on the market. Best bet is to watch Craig's, hit some local BBS's and watch the used car lots. Folks have had good luck buying racks and 16" rims from the used rigs on a lot.

[stevenmd]

Try http://www.brownchurch.co.uk/ I had one on my DI and loved it.

[jeffryscott]

http://www.northwestparts.com/DIIVR.htm

I had one of their racks for my DI and it held up well. These have had mixed reviews, but mine was great. Still on the vehicle of the guy I sold it to as well.

[stevenmd]

http://www.northwestparts.com/DIIVR.htm

I had one of their racks for my DI and it held up well. These have had mixed reviews, but mine was great. Still on the vehicle of the guy I sold it to as well.
Before you order from that company, do a search on Dweb. I do believe several people are having issues with the QC and customer service right now. Just looking out for you, not bashing the company b/c they do have awesome products.

[jeffryscott]

bought mine about 4 years or so ago, so I don't know what the current state of the company is ... but even back then, they got a lot of bashing for things, sloppy welds, etc ... but mine was great.

[justfred]

BTW, I have a D1 rack on mine, and it fits and looks fine; about 6" shorter than the roof but only a rovergeek would know the difference.

I also fabricated the clips, out of 3" flat t-plates; but I finally got around to buying the acual clips, which should be easier to put on - (from my local independent rovershop) they cost me more than the rack did (on Craigslist).

[gage092879]

as said before, check dweb. there are always some for sale there.

[Z O O R O P A]

be prudent when on DWEB. Lunacy and insanity not to mention pure idiocy rules on dweb. Ethugs abound, worst website I have ever been to is dweb for anything other than a laugh and stonishment at the behavoir :bigbossHL:

I used the wilderness rack which is superior to the brown church and has more capacity. Not sure where to get it. Youmay also try roveraccessories.com I think, not sure been awhile. Or use ROvers North, the racks really aren't that much more and dont rust like the adventure rack you made reference to

good luck!

[stevenmd]

LOL... Dweb...:rockon:

You might want to give: http://patriotroofracks.patriothost.co.uk/ You can get them in the US at: http://www.trekoverland.com/patriot_roof_racks.htm

The yellow catches you offguard at first but then it grows on you. (You can get it in black).

I sold my Brownchurch b/c I no longer needed it. When the time comes that I will need another one, I will go for one where the sides and back come off so all that is left is a flat rack. In my experience, I have never used the side and back rails (front either) if my gear was tied down properly.

[Z O O R O P A]

one of my favorite reasons to avoid DWEB, besides the admins there who behave online like Mike Tyson does in real life, was the post about the Richmond VA Land Rover dealer girls.

Two girls from the dealer had posted there previously not sure if they still do as you couldn't drag me to DWEB with a 20,000 lb winch. Some guy came on to the site and flamed the girls at the dealer without knowing they read the website ... he went on about how he hated the dealer etc blah blah and specific comments on the ladies. They found out who he was and now he was confronted by simply foul remarks he had made over the net and needed to find alternative sources for car repair rofl! :p :088: whOOps :coffee:

Expedition Exchange isn't far behind DWEB for stupidity but has some nice galleries. Although if you need to be talked out of a Land Rover just jump onto the technical forums on dweb, that should talk you right out of a Land Rover and into a Toyota in 2 minutes or less or the time it took Mike Tyson to finsih a fight when he was a man before he became a rabid animal :victory:

[stevenmd]

LOL... Dweb has actually calmed down over the years but, yeah, I agree, it can be hostile at times.:sport_box I remember that thread you were talking about.

Expedition Exchange (EE) is what we call a "boutique". It's a nice site to peruse and get ideas from. And then you go and buy it cheaper elsewhere!:shakin:

[david despain]

Expedition Exchange (EE) is what we call a "boutique". It's a nice site to peruse and get ideas from. And then you go and buy it cheaper elsewhere!:shakin:

yeah nothing like a good brain rape :(

by the time you piece together your order from a half a dozen places your "savings" just went out the window.
I'm not saying everyone needs a 275$ fire extinguisher but good customer service is priceless.

[david despain]

one of my favorite reasons to avoid DWEB, besides the admins there who behave online like Mike Tyson does in real life, was the post about the Richmond VA Land Rover dealer girls.

Two girls from the dealer had posted there previously not sure if they still do as you couldn't drag me to DWEB with a 20,000 lb winch. Some guy came on to the site and flamed the girls at the dealer without knowing they read the website ... he went on about how he hated the dealer etc blah blah and specific comments on the ladies. They found out who he was and now he was confronted by simply foul remarks he had made over the net and needed to find alternative sources for car repair rofl! :p :088: whOOps :coffee:

you must not have been over there recently. KVT hasnt posted in quite a while and axle and ho rarely post and theirs are usually productive and informative.
that richmond chicks thread is what 5yrs or more old? it was from the "old" bbs. long before the crash at anyrate.
yes you have to wade through some of that stuff you mentioned but if you know what posts to ignore there is lots of people willing to help out with actual vehicle questions/problems. its not "family friendly" but does that make it evil?

[Dmarchand]

yeah nothing like a good brain rape :(

by the time you piece together your order from a half a dozen places your "savings" just went out the window.
I'm not saying everyone needs a 275$ fire extinguisher but good customer service is priceless.

I have to agree with you. The service they provide is fantastic and they stand by everything they sell. Everything is sent efficiently and you always know what you are paying in shipping, and that your package a) will arrive, and b) will be well packed.

EE is doing it right.

[Z O O R O P A]

its not "family friendly" but does that make it evil?

Evil? Huh? What does evil have to do with anything?

You are right, it isn't family friendly, or regular friendly, or any kind of friendly. The Middle East is more friendly hahahahahah They have no standards my friend, none.

Surfing DWEB is like SLUMMING it for adventure web surfers lol

If you can not make the distinction between Dweb and this website, you need an intervention :sombrero:

Saying Dweb has come a long way is like saying a fetus grew in 9 months - it could not have gone any other way since it was at rock bottom. The fact you know KVT and frankly, Ho and friends are not exactly a whole lot better, but how you spend your money is entirely up to you as is how you spend your time. I use ebay for most of the same products EE offers and have money left over to boot

But like I said, if you find Dweb a place YOU enjoy, more power to you!

I don't enjoy prejudice, antagonists, racial slurs, ethugs, or watching adults behave like a pack of Hiyenas. Dweb in my view is the ghetto and EE is like the magazine LR publishes once a year, it looks nice, and fun, but is over valued, does not possess depth, and is exlusive not inlcusive unlike say this website :)

But to each his own and you are entirely welcome to be a member of both communities as long as you see the difference when you post. An average Dweb post would be run out of town around here, not to mention places like this attract intellectuals who can interact in a dialogue over the internet without name calling or petulance :wings:

Just my 2cents

[david despain]

If you can not make the distinction between Dweb and this website, you need an intervention

i can make the distinctin and in these couple of threads i think i make that clear. im sure that i have also warned others in different threads as well.
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47419&postcount=2
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37096&postcount=12

The fact you know KVT and frankly, Ho and friends are not exactly a whole lot better, but how you spend your money is entirely up to you as is how you spend your time. I use ebay for most of the same products EE offers and have money left over to boot

I dont know kvt. i have never spoken with, comunicated with, dealt with, purchased anything from, endorsed or denounced, him in any way. he wouldnt know me at all. same for axel. I have however dealt w/ Ho and have been very pleased. the level of comunication is better with EE than any other vendor or ebay seller I have ever dealt with.

I don't enjoy prejudice, antagonists, racial slurs, ethugs, or watching adults behave like a pack of Hiyenas. Dweb in my view is the ghetto

some of this does occur yes, although i personally dont recall reading a thread with racial slur i dont memorize each one, but since you said you dont view or post there let me just say for the sake of others on this board that not all threads deginerate into flame wars. there are lots of good folks there willing to help with all mannor of technical questions. there are folks putting fzj80, dana 60, and portal axles under DII's. people bobbing discos. there are dealer and independant techs and helpline gurus. there are folks that routinely post very useful tech info that make trips from the midwest and the east coast to utah every year. that is about as "adventure" as it gets for most people.
I have been on Dweb since before the board crashed and i dont think I have ever been in a flame war. Its easy to avoid that type of thing and not get ripped apart if you dont put yourself into a position that invites it.

But to each his own and you are entirely welcome to be a member of both communities as long as you see the difference when you post. An average Dweb post would be run out of town around here, not to mention places like this attract intellectuals who can interact in a dialogue over the internet without name calling or petulance

I'm not sure what you mean here, are you telling me that I am not welcome here if I post on Discoweb? I think I demonstrate an acceptable level of inteligence when I post in both places and that might be why I have not had any problems in the past.

[stevenmd]

I'd have to agree with you David. I was a poster on Dweb before it crashed and I am again now. Yeah, there are those people that like to flame but for the most part, the people they flame have posted some nonsense and they're just getting called on it. Sure, idiocy does occur on there, like any other board. Overall, there is a ton of information on that board that you cannot find anywhere else.

But I'm sticking to my guns about EE being a boutique shop.:hehe: :elkgrin:

[Z O O R O P A]

"I'm not sure what you mean here, are you telling me that I am not welcome here if I post on Discoweb?"

hmmm not exactly an accurate interpretation of what I said but I think it is conducive to dis-continue this conversation since we both seem satisfied with our view

I think it's great you find Dweb a good source for information I really do; a Brothel might be a good source of information too, I just choose to find my needs met else where :jump:

[stevenmd]

"a Brothel might be a good source of information too
:bowdown:

[Ballah06]

[QUOTE=Z O O R O P A]be prudent when on DWEB. Lunacy and insanity not to mention pure idiocy rules on dweb. Ethugs abound, worst website I have ever been to is dweb for anything other than a laugh and stonishment at the behavoir :bigbossHL:

Dude Dweb is about as normal of a site as you can get, i dont know where the hell you grew up or what you do for a living. But if a bunch of men who are into trucks and offroading cursing here and there and talking **** to each other insult you, you might want to go check if you were born a woman. Seriously. .:coffee:

[Z O O R O P A]

lol! :elkgrin:

Ballah06 first post, need I say more?

Last time I checked the measure of a man or the value of a person has nothing to do with; mud, trucks, stupidity, cursing, or insulting others

Perhaps your misunderstandings are merely the product of public schooling and it isn't entirely your fault that you don't possess the necesarry tools for normal communication

Temperance my friend is the fine balance of emotional excess. If you conduct yourself like that on the internet, how do you behave in real life? That isn't ment to be answered :wavey:

[Ballah06]

Yeah dude, were u reading Shakespeare last night and then doing some crack afterwards? Here's the deal, stop whining about something stupid, admit you are wrong. Anyway, did you check for the woman factor yet? Holla back.

[stevenmd]

lol! :elkgrin:

Ballah06 first post, need I say more?

Last time I checked the measure of a man or the value of a person has nothing to do with; mud, trucks, stupidity, cursing, or insulting others

Perhaps your misunderstandings are merely the product of public schooling and it isn't entirely your fault that you don't possess the necesarry tools for normal communication

Temperance my friend is the fine balance of emotional excess. If you conduct yourself like that on the internet, how do you behave in real life? That isn't ment to be answered :wavey:
Dude! With an answer like that, how are you different than what you think Dweb is like?

This thread is off topic and needs to get back to roof rack talk!:costumed-smiley-007

[Z O O R O P A]

What is with all the "dude" stuff, this isn't 1985! :jumping:

It was a mere observation on Ballah's lifestyle and a good reminder why it is illegal to marry your cousin!

Just playn! Just playn!

We all know why Ballah came in here, I just wanted to humor myself at the expense of hypocrisy :wings:

my sincere apologies if I offended anyone's delicate sensibilities and this is no mirror of what I was referring to concerning Dweb, which still stands

As for racks,

I don't think you can beat the Rovers North rack for longevity and they are rust proof

[stevenmd]

"Whateva! Whateva! I do what I want!"
- Cartman:shakin:

[toyrunner95]

so, from what i gather, i am not supposed to go to disco web because it sucks, however i should go there if i want disco parts??? im confused.

all i want is a roof rack(sob whine) i kinda want one like safty products or whatever.

[stevenmd]

Dweb is fine. You have to log in to view their classified section. I recommend looking there. It's not like it's Pirate or anything... (that was a joke / sarcasm).

[gage092879]

yeah, dweb is not bad. but i did get banned from EE for proving someone wrong about cops dead with brass in there hand or pockets. oh well. they still have good customer service. there is a guy on there selling a rack now on dweb. good luck with the rack. cheers

[nvprospector]

Use to own a D2 and there are a lot of places to get parts and equipment for these monsters. You biggest concern is with the fact the D2 is a ’03. If it was made the front half the year there is no CDL ability in the transfer case. Without a CDL system, you are stuck with the traction control system. Traction control does not work to well; the speed sensors have a lot of issues. If the brakes sequel for to long the Hall Effect sensors magnets will shatter, give the dreaded three amigos. To get CDL, all you need to do is swap out the T-case front output with a ’99-’01 unit and then add a ’04 lever. This mod takes about 2 hours. Then there is the rear drive shaft. It uses the roto flex system, or better known as the rubber donut. Go to Great Basin Rovers and talk to Bill to get the conversion to a real u-joint and put on a decent rear drive line. Now for the front drive shaft. This is not grease able, and it sits way to close to the catalytic converters. Making the grease boil off and having the camber explode, taking out your oil pan, catalytic converters and transmission. No need to replace the drive shaft, it is well built. All you need to do is make it better by adding real u-joints and having a machine shop make a grease able pivot bearing for you. The front drive shaft uses the same u-joints from a Volvo 500 series.

I could go on for ever on modifications on these things. I did love mine until the engine fire when the oil cooler line busted. Still have it in my yard and I cry every time I see it, and when I think I put in over $22,000 in modifications into it. Oh well, such is life. Now it is time to build a new rig and building is half the fun.

By the way, Discoweb is a good source of information. Just don't ask any questions and do the oppisite to what some of them tell others to do.

Later

[stevenmd]

Use to own a D2 and there are a lot of places to get parts and equipment for these monsters. You biggest concern is with the fact the D2 is a ’03. If it was made the front half the year there is no CDL ability in the transfer case. Without a CDL system, you are stuck with the traction control system. Traction control does not work to well; the speed sensors have a lot of issues. If the brakes sequel for to long the Hall Effect sensors magnets will shatter, give the dreaded three amigos. To get CDL, all you need to do is swap out the T-case front output with a ’99-’01 unit and then add a ’04 lever. This mod takes about 2 hours. Then there is the rear drive shaft. It uses the roto flex system, or better known as the rubber donut. Go to Great Basin Rovers and talk to Bill to get the conversion to a real u-joint and put on a decent rear drive line. Now for the front drive shaft. This is not grease able, and it sits way to close to the catalytic converters. Making the grease boil off and having the camber explode, taking out your oil pan, catalytic converters and transmission. No need to replace the drive shaft, it is well built. All you need to do is make it better by adding real u-joints and having a machine shop make a grease able pivot bearing for you. The front drive shaft uses the same u-joints from a Volvo 500 series.

I could go on for ever on modifications on these things. I did love mine until the engine fire when the oil cooler line busted. Still have it in my yard and I cry every time I see it, and when I think I put in over $22,000 in modifications into it. Oh well, such is life. Now it is time to build a new rig and building is half the fun.

By the way, Discoweb is a good source of information. Just don't ask any questions and do the oppisite to what some of them tell others to do.

Later
Nice write-up NV but to clarify... none of the 2002 or 2003 DII's have CDL. Only the first part of the production year 2001 have it, the remainder of the 2001's don't have it. He will need to get a T-case from a 1999 - early 2001 DII.

How come you don't drop in a 4.6 into your DII? Or did the fire make it unrestorable? Reminds me... I had better check my lines!

Saw your Alaska post, thanks!

[nvprospector]

stevenmd thanks for the clarification on the CDL. Was writing a lot and missed out the begining of '01. I made it sound like all of '01 had the nipple. Your welcome on the Alaska info and like I said, I can help with some trip ideas.

As for the engine I used the stock 4.0 block with a 300 Buick crank from RPI and a mild Crown cam from D&D Fabrication. I then used the 4.6 stroke using the 4.0 heads and pistons. No need to go with the 300 Buick stroke, the only difference between the 4.6 and 300 stroke was only a few thousand of an inch. To use the 300’s stroke would have been some head modification. Then I got rid of the 4HP22 and put in a nice blueprinted/balanced R380 from a DI that was able after the mods to use regular gear oil. Then to get the power from the engine I used a shimmed Defender fly wheel and clutch.

I will say this, when I did the mods to the engine, I did not have the dreaded 25,000 mile rear main oil seal issue. Matter of fact it got rid of all the oil leaks. For the first few months, I checked the oil every day to see if it was still full. I just could not believe I was driving a rover without any leaks. Before the engine fire, I went 68,000 miles without out any of the many leaks a rover lover loves to see. It was also nice to be able to drive around without the EPA setting up oil spill zones where ever I parked. I just could not believe how out of balance and what poor castings the rover block had.

I still have the rig and will not part with it. I loved it to much and there is a lot of blood and blood in it. I am now trying to source a nice TD5 to place into it. Found one in Florida, now I just need to have him give it to me instead of putting it into his rig.

[stevenmd]

I am now trying to source a nice TD5 to place into it. Found one in Florida, now I just need to have him give it to me instead of putting it into his rig.
If you check craiglist under vehicles for the Reno area, I believe there is a guy there who sells a TDI conversion. Don't quote me on that though! If you can't find it, let me know and I will do a search for it.

[stevenmd]

If you check craiglist under vehicles for the Reno area, I believe there is a guy there who sells a TDI conversion. Don't quote me on that though! If you can't find it, let me know and I will do a search for it.
Here it is: http://reno.craigslist.org/car/272343016.html

[nvprospector]

Here it is: http://reno.craigslist.org/car/272343016.html

Thanks, I will check it out.