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Nullifier
12-04-2005, 11:46 PM
Well I was thinking to myself that we should start a national event. Since we are scatered all over the U.S., we should try to organize a date and declare it. Members close by could get together to work on a remote area close to them. Those that are along way from other members like myself could just get a few friends together to help out. What do you all think. Could be good way to get some publicity for the site and do some good out there for the sport.

Maybe scott can even get a mention for it in some of the 4X4 mags he writes for. Just a thought.

Desertdude
12-05-2005, 03:15 AM
Our club in AZ the Copper State Cruisers try and do 4 trail clean ups a year.

I think it is a great idea!

Scott Brady
12-05-2005, 03:24 AM
Fantastic idea... Everyone could report in. It would be fun to couple the day with a trail ride and post pictures of the clean-up and the trail fun.

Great idea Brian :clapsmile

Desertdude
12-05-2005, 03:48 AM
Let's raise the stakes and have contest - most trash collected - oddest piece of trash collected - most valuable piece of trash.

Keep the spirt of fun alive, while cleaning up the nation :sunny:

calamaridog
12-05-2005, 10:33 AM
Let's raise the stakes and have contest - most trash collected - oddest piece of trash collected - most valuable piece of trash.

Keep the spirt of fun alive, while cleaning up the nation :sunny:


Prizes? ;)

Or just bragging rights :jump:

Ursidae69
12-05-2005, 02:12 PM
Around here I could take a flatbed and fill it up a dozen times over from the BLM land (aka poor man's landfill).

Desertdude
12-05-2005, 02:16 PM
certain ethnic cultures look at open land differently than eco conscious cultures. Growing up in NJ as a kid I saw dumping in the marsh lands, and everywhere in the woods - now it is all paved over...

Scott Brady
12-05-2005, 02:23 PM
Prizes? ;)

Or just bragging rights :jump:

I am sure Scotty Clause can figure something out. :box:

datrupr
12-05-2005, 02:56 PM
Hey, i think this is a great idea! I would be in to help out in this effort. I had heard that a 4wheel club in Phoenix had gone off to Table Mesa road and cleaned up a few of the huge trash piles , but I was unsure until I saw it for my own eyes at teh rally. I think this is the kind of positive publicity we need.

OverlandZJ
12-05-2005, 04:59 PM
I'm always up for projects like this, the four wheelin community definately benefits from this type of exposure. :clapsmile



certain ethnic cultures look at open land differently than eco conscious cultures. Growing up in NJ as a kid I saw dumping in the marsh lands, and everywhere in the woods - now it is all paved over...

Where in NJ?

There have been several cleanups in the Jersey Pines over the last 5-6 years. The first one i was involved with we took out several containers full of trash. The Atison Ranger district handled the details, local clubs showed up and the press wrote several positive articles.

Brian McVickers
12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
This would be great!
Does anyone have flat-bed or uhaul type trailers that we could fill up?
Depending on where we go and how far offroad perhaps we could leave the trailers at the trailhead and shuttle back to them.

datrupr
12-05-2005, 05:38 PM
I have a small stake bed trailer.

Nullifier
12-05-2005, 05:51 PM
I am going to talk to the national park service about doing some work in the Faxahatchee strand or Big Cypress around Everglades City. If That is a challenge then I will most likely go up to the Withalacochee national forest.

I have already got about 10 people that are commited in my local area. I guess we ned to try and get a date together at some point.

I think having a clean up thread for the after is goo so we can post pics of all the areas we cleaned up along with pics of all the trash we left. Depending on where you are you might want to see about a flat bed trailer for old cars. I know that is a big problem in Florida.

DesertRose
12-06-2005, 01:02 PM
Great idea - Tucson folks? We can organize something down here.

Are we doing it same day?

And here's my two cents: We should do it 'cause it's the right thing to do, not do it for prizes. That could be spun the wrong way by anti 4x4 people, and the media will buy right into. Let's just not give them anything but a good hook.

Have a fun day, camp out, share some good food, clean up a needed place.

In our area, I think Ironwood NM might be most in need, but we can talk with area BLM and Forest Service folks and see which area does not have an "adoptee" group. Buenos Aires and areas down by us are already served by some hunter groups. Redington and Charleau are done by the clubs.

Who in Tucson can join us?

calamaridog
12-08-2005, 10:52 AM
[QUOTE=DesertRose]
And here's my two cents: We should do it 'cause it's the right thing to do, not do it for prizes. That could be spun the wrong way by anti 4x4 people, and the media will buy right into. Let's just not give them anything but a good hook.

Have a fun day, camp out, share some good food, clean up a needed place.
QUOTE]

I'll pick up trash on the general principle of the thing and so will most people who enjoy the outdoors. I bring home all my trash and as much of the other trash as I can pack.

The idea of prizes was floated out there. Doesn't have to happen that way.

However, now is not the time to shy away from asking the vendors to be involved in our fight to preserve land access. That is what this all boils down to, I believe. YOU will get much less positive media attention than ARB will if they offer to sponsor a clean-up.

Regardless, this is a great idea. I think it would be a better idea if we could pick a weekend and plan clean-ups in more than one location. This would make it a national news event versus just a local one.

DesertRose
12-08-2005, 12:51 PM
So is anyone floating a date?

Desertdude
12-08-2005, 02:20 PM
A national date will need to be chosen carefully - the southern states get very hot - it is our club experience it is hard to get folk's out during the high heat. National clean up day is far reaching not only on the trails


Just so you know we are not alone:

http://acorn.org/?9072


Google search National clean up day (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=national+clean+up+day&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)

Nullifier
12-08-2005, 02:47 PM
Well I'm as south as it gets for this group I think the latest it could be done is end of may for Florida anyway. I think we should ask for members of the forum to step us as a leader for there state and coordinate a location once a weekend is chosen.

So I'll go fishing How about April 1&2. It is early enough to still be high 80's in the southern areas and late enough that getting out on northern trails is doable.

Although I do not have any issue with support of sponsors I think that it is not the main reason for it as everyone in this audience would agree. I think that The reponsability of cleaning up after the 4X4 world lays more on the enthusiasts then manufacturer. If there are some that want to donate that is great, but I would rather see them attend a clean up close to them we are having, rather just then donate stuff. Lord knows we need the man power. I know we all secretly covet free gear, so I won't discourage it donations if they come.

So once again Clean up weekend :camping: :archaeolo APRIL 1-2, 2006

goodtimes
12-08-2005, 05:00 PM
On the issues of "sponsers".....I don't see the benefit of having them. Pick up a bag of trash....get a locker? nah.....lets do it because we, as OHV entheusiasts don't like to see trash laying around. It is for the betterment of nature, not for our vehicles.

The only exception I have to that, is if we can convince orginazations like Waste Management to help by waiving the fees at the landfill or transfer station. Maybe have some other orginization donate some consumables (gloves, heavy duty trash bags, utility trailer rental, etc). Definately not stuff that we will keep...things that we will use during the day.

DaktariEd
12-08-2005, 06:27 PM
April 1 & 2 are out for me.
That's the Black Mountain Trek weekend Scott has planned...

goodtimes
12-08-2005, 08:19 PM
So, what you are saying Ed, is that I need to break out the 2006 calander and make sure I don't double book my weekends? Huh...I dunno. That almost sounds like making sense...and that just isn't good!

Sorry guys....I'll be in SoCal with Ed and Scott and 8 others that weekend....

fj803fe
01-25-2006, 02:49 PM
Well I'm as south as it gets for this group I think the latest it could be done is end of may for Florida anyway.

So I'll go fishing How about April 1&2. It is early enough to still be high 80's in the southern areas and late enough that getting out on northern trails is doable.

So once again Clean up weekend :camping: :archaeolo APRIL 1-2, 2006

Depending on snow pack (which isn't much right now) beginning of April may be too early for some of our mountain trails, but we can always choose a more southerly trail here in the Four Corners for this first year-I would love to do something like this.

Do we have any media savvy folks??? Local papers, news channels, etc. For the most part-if you push it hard enough they will send a reporter/jounalist along. My vote for a push on the National thing...