Genright JK gas tank

[F5driver]

20 more gallons for the JK.

http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST8003-2

[Backwoods Rambler]

$1,400.00 :Wow1:

[getlost4x4]

4- 5 gallon gas cans. $80. hmmmmm i don't know what to do?:elkgrin:

[BIGdaddy]

4- 5 gallon gas cans. $80. hmmmmm i don't know what to do?:elkgrin:

plus, when one jerry can gets a hole in it and dumps its contents you still have 15 gallons in reserve.

:)

Not saying I'd return such a gift if it were suddenly under my xmas tree, though...:D

[oO_Rogue_Oo]

The premise behind the Gen-Right tank is not additional fuel. It is to relocate the fuel tank so that a triangulated 4 link suspension can be installed. That said; comparing it to jerry cans does not apply.

[RedRoamer]

The premise behind the Gen-Right tank is not additional fuel. It is to relocate the fuel tank so that a triangulated 4 link suspension can be installed. That said; comparing it to jerry cans does not apply.

But the third sentence in the advert says... "This is done by using this new fuel tank IN ADDITION to your factory fuel tank. "?????

[Backwoods Rambler]

I think he's referring to previous versions of thier product which were designed to replace factory tanks.

[Brigitta]

I checked into this tank too and at that price point I can have a local fab shop make me a custom tank to fit my needs. I think I'll stick with the Jerry Cans or if I want to spend more $$ the Rotopax flat stacking fuel cells.

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Having sourced OEM parts from Australia and Japan for an aux tank in a Land Cruiser before, I think $1400.00 is right on price wise. It's actually a bargain if all that's missing is an OEM fuel pump.

It's comparable with the other limited, aux. tank offerings available to U.S. consumers. Check the price points on Transfer Flow, Man-A-Fre, Titan and Camping Labs. Up to now, the only JK aux tank available was from Long Ranger in Oz. with the current exchange rate and trying to coordinate the logistics of getting it here, the Gen right again seems like a bargain.

For those saying that they can get a custom tank fabbed locally in Reno for cheaper than this, I say call Samco Fab and get a quote. I did for a different platform and it was quite a bit higher. Sure you can shop around, but were talking a fuel tank here. I certainly want the best fab guy I know of building it. Team Hummer/Rod Hall and a bunch of others trust him, so do I.

For those that are comparing carrying cans around to an aux tank...There is no comparison. With an aux tank the extra weight is down low where it's least harmful. To transfer the fuel all you have to do is flip a switch and it's done, most of the time while driving. You don't even have to slow down. This was most beneficial while competing in the Nevada Trophy. You don't have to worry about storing cans, moving cans or the transfer of fuel. Sure cans are cheap and handy, but if there are other better options available why not use them?

I'm glad gen-Right recognized the need for this application and view it as one more point in the JK's corner. Now if only AT would release their "Habitat" top for it...

[oO_Rogue_Oo]

But the third sentence in the advert says... "This is done by using this new fuel tank IN ADDITION to your factory fuel tank. "?????

Copied directly from the Gen-right site
http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST8002-2

"This is the NEW GenRight Crawler™ 20 Gallon Gas Tank to fit a Jeep JK (2007-2010). It is specifically designed to be mounted in the rear area under the vehicle so you can REMOVE the factory tank (opening the door for a triangulated 4 link rear suspension)."

The original intent was as stated in the link above. As an after thought the link previously post was put up as another market they could tap but it was not the original intent of designing the tank.

FYI, looks like they added a wiring harness for $300; and called it a "dual tank" setup

[jeeepguy]

This is brilliant design and the price is commensurate with the engineering involved. It creates a dual tank system for the JK with virtually no loss in the vehicles original offroad performance. WAY better than carrying extra gas cans. Wish the YJ had room for this kind of system. I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. :drool:

Oh, and Rogue, you have the wrong part number. Look here for what the OP was referring to:GST8003-2 (http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST8003-2)

[grecy]

Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe it's been omitted:

1. When used as a "second" tank, does one need to transfer the gas from one to the other, using some kind of transfer pump/switch I assume?
Or does the purchase of the second gas pump mean gas can come straight from the second tank?

2. How does it fill? "mounts in a way that works with the factory gas filler" - does that mean you can stick the gas nozzle in and it won't click off till 40 gallons?

-Dan

[jeepdreamer]

I think GenRight makes a very high quality product and charge accordingly. That is not a jab at them...they deserve the fruits of their labor! I just couldn't afford them. If my pockets were deep enough and I could I likely would but there may only be limited options, even less when you have a small budget.
For my CJ8 I wanted extra capacity and got lucky enough to stumble accross a used Aero 33 gallon tank for my Scrambler. Cost me 200 bones plus shipping. Pure luck but you may look into them as well for an alternative? And BTW...I will always carry at least one fuel can on a long trek just in case!

[alosix]

Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe it's been omitted:

1. When used as a "second" tank, does one need to transfer the gas from one to the other, using some kind of transfer pump/switch I assume?
Or does the purchase of the second gas pump mean gas can come straight from the second tank?

2. How does it fill? "mounts in a way that works with the factory gas filler" - does that mean you can stick the gas nozzle in and it won't click off till 40 gallons?

-Dan

I'm thinking the 2nd tank is left up as an exercise for the user :).

Probably in need of a YJ style filler behind the license plate + some sort of switch to change fuel pumps + some extra lines and maybe a check valve or 2. (though, the pumps should have check valves in them)

Remember guys.. GenRite's target market isn't really us. Its custom fabricated vehicles and rock crawlers. Its just nice that they make a JK tank that would likely suit our needs, but lets face it, its hardly a bolt on mod even as a replacement tank.

[Backwoods Rambler]

Its just nice that they make a JK tank that would likely suit our needs, but lets face it, its hardly a bolt on mod even as a replacement tank.

For the price it should be bolt on. I'm just sayin' :snorkel:

[JPK]

If interested in more fuel in the JK you should look into the Longranger auxiliary fuel tank from Australia. Adds an extra 18 gals and comes complete with sistered in fill, fuel transfer pump, etc, etc. They estimate five hours instal time.

Here is a link to the Longranger tank: http://www.thelongranger.com.au/jklongrangefueltank.html#TA64P

There is a thread here on one installed, about four months ago or so.

ARB is the US distributor and I have one ordered from ARB. Should get to me in two to four months. ARB USA didn't have one in stock and neither did ARB Austalia, so the needed to get one from Longranger directly. Not many in the US right now, but ARB apparently send a number south to Central and South America. Price to my door, in Maryland, about $1,400.

Hope this helps,

JPK

[KenB1010]

I've had the Aux version of this tank on order for awhile now. My understanding is that it fills via a T in the factory fill line. Genright says I should have this for install next week


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[grecy]

BUMP to the top (I don't want this one to die)


I've had the Aux version of this tank on order for awhile now. My understanding is that it fills via a T in the factory fill line. Genright says I should have this for install next week

If it's not too much trouble Ken, could you please post a review and maybe a couple of pics when you finally have it (and mention how it fills and empies..)
Thanks



Not many in the US right now, but ARB apparently send a number south to Central and South America. Price to my door, in Maryland, about $1,400.

JPK, can you please post a review as well.
Thanks

-Dan

[x32792]

$1,400.00 :Wow1:

For $1,400 plus installation, couldn't I just buy and carry a few jerry cans?

[grecy]

For $1,400 plus installation, couldn't I just buy and carry a few jerry cans?

I think this is a common misconception of reserve gas tanks.
IMHO, jerry cans are not even in the same league, for numerous reasons:

1. You have to carry them on the outside of the Jeep in most places (safety) and they are prime for theft, or at least scream "look at me!"
2. Strapping and un-strapping them is a PITA.
3. You have to empty them with a funnel, hopefully finding one that opens the little security 'latch' in the Jeep.
4. You will get gas on your hands/feet.
5. Unless you strap them to the bottom of the Jeep (unlikely) it's more weight high up

My personal opinion.

-Dan

[jeeepguy]

^ All of the above

Spot on...

[Dirt Devils]

in my opinion the advantages of this fuel tank out weigh the cost.

1- number one reason may get a few laughs, but having 20 extra gallons of fuel will help keep many significant others more worry free while out in the boonies. (fuel level and ice are the two biggest concerns of my woman)
2- having a second fuel pump may save you changing one on the trail
3- lower center of gravity, compared to fuel cans stacked on a roof rack or swing away carrier
4- it optimizes space under the jeep leaving cargo space higher up for other, hopefully lighter gear.
5- it effortlessly on the drivers part increases the range of the jeep to around *680 miles (nearly 1100 km) *will vary from jeep to jeep, but is based on my average MPG
6- and finally, never needing to stand and pour 20 gallons of fuel into a funnel PRICELESS:sombrero:

the down sides are
1- losing the small tool storage area
2- rerouting the exhaust. it looks like it will be difficult to get the tail pipe past the suspension and the fuel tank.
3- last on the list, price. with exhaust mods and fuel pump you can be nearing 2,000.00

a fairly personal list to be sure, but i'm already saving the pennies :ylsmoke:

[AzPhil]

That's a lot of extra weight to carry around on a daily basis if your rig is also a daily driver.

[JPK]

That's a lot of extra weight to carry around on a daily basis if your rig is also a daily driver.

Since the fuel in the auxiliary tank is transfered to the main tank via a driver activated switch running a pump the auxiliary tank can be left empty when not needed. No weight issue for daily driving, except the relatively insubstantial weight of the tank, plumbing, etc.

JPK

[JPK]

in my opinion the advantages of this fuel tank out weigh the cost.

the down sides are
1- losing the small tool storage area
2- rerouting the exhaust. it looks like it will be difficult to get the tail pipe past the suspension and the fuel tank.
3- last on the list, price. with exhaust mods and fuel pump you can be nearing 2,000.00

a fairly personal list to be sure, but i'm already saving the pennies :ylsmoke:

Look at the LongRanger tank. I posted a link in my post on page two. delivered to my door, complete with all pump, wiring, plumbing and hardware required for instal $1,400. Estimate of five hours for instal.

18.6gals, no mods or re-routing of stock exhaust, no loss of tool cuddy.

(I have a Hemi in my JK and what looks like minor exhaust mods will be required, but only because my JK has a mufler opposite the factory tank and a resonator in the stock mufler location. I think I found a smaller mufler that will allow the current configuration and accomodate the LongRanger, but I may have to revert to a larger single muffler in the stock location and loose the resonator.)

Assuming you have it done by a shop, rates around here (about $60/hr) make the LongRanger a $1,700 instaled mod that almost doubles range. (And like the GenRight, can be left empty when not needed to limit weight gain.)

To the poster who requested a report, I will certainly post a report when the tank is installed. That might be awhile since delivery might be awhile. Remember, there is already a report on an instal posted here. It was posted about four months ago.

JPK

[Metcalf]

Or.....

You could run the stock tank, the long-ranger tank, and the gen-right tank. That would give you about......

2-door, 18.6 stock + 11 in the longranger + 20 in the Gen-right.
49.6 gallons TOTAL!

4-door, 22.5 stock + 18 in the longranger + 20 in the Gen-right.
60.5 gallons TOTAL!

Maybe throw a few fuel cans in the back....

[alosix]

:chef:
Or.....

You could run the stock tank, the long-ranger tank, and the gen-right tank. That would give you about......

2-door, 18.6 stock + 11 in the longranger + 20 in the Gen-right.
49.6 gallons TOTAL!

4-door, 22.5 stock + 18 in the longranger + 20 in the Gen-right.
60.5 gallons TOTAL!

Maybe throw a few fuel cans in the back....

if only it was a diesel, then imagine the range.

Though.. I think you might want the J8 frame setup for this.. that's a lot of weight in fuel.

[AZUnlimited]

I've had the Aux version of this tank on order for awhile now. My understanding is that it fills via a T in the factory fill line. Genright says I should have this for install next week


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Have you received the tank yet? Interested in how it worked out for you.

[winkosmosis]

How vulnerable is it in an accident? The reason they moved the gas tank in the first place was safety. Can you get a skid plate for it?


BTW, to the people asking why you wouldn't just use jerry cans... well why wouldn't you use this aux tank AND the 4 jerry cans, for 60 gal?

[Jorsn]

How vulnerable is it in an accident? The reason they moved the gas tank in the first place was safety. Can you get a skid plate for it?


BTW, to the people asking why you wouldn't just use jerry cans... well why wouldn't you use this aux tank AND the 4 jerry cans, for 60 gal?

The Long Ranger aux tank comes with a skid plate. I believe the Gen Right aux tank does too.

[KenB1010]

Just picked up the jeep this morning with the GenRight Aux tank installed. A switch on the dash toggles between Aux and Main. The fuel gauge will show the fuel level in whichever tank is selected. GenRight wires the Aux Tank so that if you have a failure (mechanical or electrical) the jeep will automatically switch back to the factory tank.

Both tanks fill from the factory fuel fill. So when you get gas you’re filling both tanks at the same time. The jeep runs on either tank independently via the switch on the dash, so you aren't transferring gas from the aux to the main tank.

The jeep drives fine on canyon roads with the extra weight. I can feel the weight, but no problems with traction control or ABS systems. I haven't had time to drive it with the trailer yet.

GenRight includes a heavy duty skid plate to protect the tank. If I remember it's 3/16" steel. The tank sits at the same level as the factory muffler. I'll definitely feel comfortable dragging it over rocks and dropping it off ledges.

Installation:
1. Relocated muffler to drivers side with tail pipe located in front of axle.
2. Requires install of Currie anti-rock sway bar. The sway bar is relocated above the frame rails for clearance on the tank. So far Currie is the only bar that is fitted above the frame.
3. Requires removal of rear floor storage compartment. I guess I'll have to figure out another place for my wood blocks and first aid kit. GenRight includes a cover with an access panel in place of the storage compartment.
4. Required some custom fabrication of my Full-Traction track bar to clear the Aux tank. GenRight flex tested my jeep with the Aux tank and custom track bar installed to verify no clearance problems. Gotta love GenRight's quality products, workmanship and attention to detail.

Note: GenRight has put the Aux version of their tank back on their web site.
http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST8202-2

So far GenRight has installed about 4 of these tanks. 1 in their jeep(4dr), Mine(2dr), Another on a 4dr in Simi Valley, And a silver 2dr from AZ.
The 4dr owner in Simi Valley is also a member of this forum so he’ll probably post up with his thoughts as well.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/KenB1010/GenRight/IMG_1445.jpg
Tank cover with access panel. Factory cover fits over the top.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/KenB1010/GenRight/IMG_1448.jpg
Tank with skid plate sits about 3" lower than bumper. Back of tank is angled up to keep good departure angle.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/KenB1010/GenRight/IMG_1451.jpg
Custom track bar goes over the top of differential for clearance.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/KenB1010/GenRight/IMG_1449.jpg
Anti-Rock sway bar fits above frame to allow room for tank.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/KenB1010/GenRight/IMG_1454.jpg
Muffler was relocated to drivers side in front of axle.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/KenB1010/GenRight/IMG_1460.jpg
Main / Aux switch mounted low on the center console in front of shifter.

[grecy]

Just picked up the jeep this morning with the GenRight Aux tank installed....
Thanks for the awesome review and great pics.
Really appreciated.

I'm curious if anyone has thought of buying a standard gas tank from Jeep (pump and all) and just installing it on the other side of the drive shaft (more or less where the long ranger is installed) I imagine there will be a few "mirror" issues, and unfortunately I don't have one to look at.

Good idea?

-Dan

[KenB1010]

I'm curious if anyone has thought of buying a standard gas tank from Jeep (pump and all) and just installing it on the other side of the drive shaft (more or less where the long ranger is installed) I imagine there will be a few "mirror" issues, and unfortunately I don't have one to look at.

Good idea?

-Dan

That is a good idea, it would require fab of a custom skid plate, brackets, wiring, and fill pipes. The big issue I see about doing this is where does the muffler and exaust pipe go.

[KenB1010]

I checked GenRight's web site and they have the Aux tank back up.

http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST8202-2

I'll edit the original post as well to avoid any confusion.

[grecy]

That is a good idea, it would require fab of a custom skid plate, brackets, wiring, and fill pipes. The big issue I see about doing this is where does the muffler and exaust pipe go.
I'm pretty sure the Long Ranger doesn't require any changes to the muffler and exhaust pipe.
Wouldn't it be the same?

Does anyone have access to a Jeep price list to see how much a standard gas tank costs?

-Dan

[JIMBO]

:sombrero: That looks like a great job, although-

I'm surprised that any commercial auto place will install a muffler, with the exhaust pipe downturn, underneath the vehicle-very dangerous !!

Other than that, the rest looks good

:costumed-smiley-007:wings: JIMBO

[KenB1010]

Thank You, I'm happy with GenRights work on this project. I can't wait to take this out on the trail and try this out.

Oh, I don't know that the exhaust is "very dangerous". It's definitely not a solution that you'll find on factory vehicles, but you commonly see it in the off road industry. With the ground clearance that I have there is plenty of ventilation under there.

I had the exhaust work done at a local muffler shop. The shop owner didn't bat an eye at terminating the exhaust under the vehicle. He was much more concerned about relocating the factory heat shield.

CO and misc. carcinogens are the main dangers of exhaust gas. CO is about the same weight as air so it readily mixes and disperses in air. The carcinogens are almost all heavier than air and sink to the ground quickly. It takes a pressurized source and/or a confined space for CO to build up.

[JIMBO]

:sombrero: I'm just concerned, because it is an off-road vehicle and subject to many very slow crawl movements-



Thank You, I'm happy with GenRights work on this project. I can't wait to take this out on the trail and try this out.

Oh, I don't know that the exhaust is "very dangerous". It's definitely not a solution that you'll find on factory vehicles, but you commonly see it in the off road industry. With the ground clearance that I have there is plenty of ventilation under there.

I had the exhaust work done at a local muffler shop. The shop owner didn't bat an eye at terminating the exhaust under the vehicle. He was much more concerned about relocating the factory heat shield.

CO and misc. carcinogens are the main dangers of exhaust gas. CO is about the same weight as air so it readily mixes and disperses in air. The carcinogens are almost all heavier than air and sink to the ground quickly. It takes a pressurized source and/or a confined space for CO to build up.

The Carbon Monoxide is very dangerous if going slow off-road, with all windows up-winter, but if your muffler shop doesn't care, why should I __

google carbon monoxide auto

Cheers

:costumed-smiley-007:wings: JIMBO