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ex m38a1er
12-05-2010, 10:30 AM
http://www.actioncamper.com/details.php?artID=5&ktid=1&lng=en

majorpayne
12-05-2010, 01:13 PM
I don't have a jeep, but that definitely is cool. If these units are decently priced (which is unlikely, but I'll be optimistic for you Jeep guys :P) they will sell like crazy.

goin camping
12-05-2010, 04:19 PM
Neat idea and one a lot of us could get behind. I wonder if they will import it here and if our gas engines can haul it as well as the diesels they are going to put it on.

Lancer
12-05-2010, 04:20 PM
I have no doubt at all that this will be beautifully made and designed; equally I have no doubt that it will be horribly expensive!

1leglance
12-05-2010, 04:37 PM
Another very cool product that the Euro folks are willing to pay for AND get the time off work to enjoy.
I hope they do well as a company as it helps all of us to have more creative solutions out there.

Martyn
12-05-2010, 05:07 PM
It's interesting that they have removed the roll cage. From what I gather from my colleagues in Europe modification of the existing vehicle from a safety perspective is no longer allowed by European standards.

The manufacturers of vehicle tops like this are now working in a gray area, not quite certain if they are legal or not. It will be interesting what happens with this in the future as most of the pop top build done in Europe require removal of structural parts of the vehicle.

In talking with potential importers of the JK Habitat to Europe the fact that we don't modify the structure of the vehicle was a big plus. It's evident that the resellers in Europe are aware of the contradiction in regulations, and also interesting that the manufacturers are still pushing ahead hoping for the best.

Marcie's Disco
12-05-2010, 05:14 PM
Perfectly titled thread! This is a great looking product. Good find, thanks for posting. :drool:

Patman
12-05-2010, 05:21 PM
I would assume the fact that the rear seats are removed allows for the removal of rear passenger safety equipment.

Assuming of course that the safety of the front driver/pass. are addressed.

I'm sure it has to go through countless inspections, etc.

As the jk hab keeps rear passenger accomodations its a different story.

Martyn
12-05-2010, 05:26 PM
I would assume the fact that the rear seats are removed allows for the removal of rear passenger safety equipment.

Assuming of course that the safety of the front driver/pass. are addressed.

I'm sure it has to go through countless inspections, etc.

As the jk hab keeps rear passenger accomodations its a different story.

You may well be correct. The roll cage does however extend the whole length of the interior of the vehicle from the windscreen back to the rear door.

They gray area may well be that it hasn't been through countless inspection because of the way the current regulations are written. It's a hard thing to tell.

Aside from these concerns it's a wonderful design and use of space.

ex m38a1er
12-05-2010, 06:00 PM
Perfectly titled thread! This is a great looking product. Good find, thanks for posting. :drool:
:wings:Αny time:victory:

ex m38a1er
12-05-2010, 06:03 PM
Neat idea and one a lot of us could get behind. I wonder if they will import it here and if our gas engines can haul it as well as the diesels they are going to put it on.
Well...they claim that it only adds 200kgs(400lbs)and you don't have to carry it with you all of the time as it is slide-on.

Backwoods Rambler
12-05-2010, 06:14 PM
Since there are only renderings (I didn't see any pictures of real ones) it seems safe to think that they haven't actually had one built to be inspected, no?

goin camping
12-05-2010, 06:49 PM
Well...they claim that it only adds 200kgs(400lbs)and you don't have to carry it with you all of the time as it is slide-on.

In looking at the pictures I thought the 400lbs was pretty optimistic and then you also need to add in the weight of your equipment and supplies.

ex m38a1er
12-05-2010, 07:03 PM
They say that if you take off OEM hard top,rear seat etc and add this ,the
difference is 200kgs.(Still optimistic)...
Supplies you take with you anyway,right?

goin camping
12-05-2010, 07:16 PM
The more space you give me the stuff I'll take. :sombrero:

mhiscox
12-05-2010, 07:42 PM
In looking at the pictures I thought the 400lbs was pretty optimistic and then you also need to add in the weight of your equipment and supplies.
Yep. This one must be partially built out of helium. Just FYI, my empty EarthRoamer Jeep, which is very similarly-equipped options-wise and actually encloses less cabin volume weighs about 6500 pounds when loaded but without any interior furniture.

ex m38a1er
12-05-2010, 08:00 PM
Εven if we are talking about the swb jk?
Your roof is longer and sturdier in order to stand two people sleeping
on it...Then again...how should i know?


He does not say how can you take off the top when you're out there...

smbisig
12-17-2010, 09:00 PM
I would love to adapt this to my YJ

ex m38a1er
12-17-2010, 10:29 PM
This is for a TJ(like mine:wings:) but your should look the same
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr236/exm38a1er/campersetuprender1.jpg
I've found it (i think)in here somewhere...i hope the guy doesn;t mind
and i should thank him:victory:

Mr. D
12-18-2010, 02:24 AM
I like the TJ look

ex m38a1er
12-19-2010, 09:13 PM
Please...don't make me think more of it...
I'm this close:exclaim: to let go my trailer project for this...

Ursa Minor
12-21-2010, 03:45 AM
Nice concept - but renderings are the easy part. To hit that weight it's going to have to be a fiberglass - foam sandwich I would think, but that brings with some interesting manufacturing challenges and expensive tooling. I'll call it at $15 to $20 k per unit if made in Europe and shipped to USA.

The part I find curious is putting the spare tire in the bed. That rubber stink would be powerfully unpleasant if it was closed up on a hot day, and if you changed out a bad tire I wouldn't want the road dirt in my bed afterwards - and getting it in/out would be a chore on a humid day.

jeepdreamer
12-22-2010, 04:10 PM
Nice concept - but renderings are the easy part. To hit that weight it's going to have to be a fiberglass - foam sandwich I would think, but that brings with some interesting manufacturing challenges and expensive tooling. I'll call it at $15 to $20 k per unit if made in Europe and shipped to USA.

The part I find curious is putting the spare tire in the bed. That rubber stink would be powerfully unpleasant if it was closed up on a hot day, and if you changed out a bad tire I wouldn't want the road dirt in my bed afterwards - and getting it in/out would be a chore on a humid day.

Rubber stink?
Dirt in the bed??
Really...?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

jackflash
12-23-2010, 01:12 AM
Found a price at:

http://www.thaler-design.com/details.php?ktid=15&artID=290

Looks like it is 30k Euros or about 40k USD. Then you would have to have it shipped to the US. Looks awesome, but pricey.

ActionCamper
01-24-2011, 03:02 PM
Jeep® ActionCamper© - fully equipped expedition ready slide-on camper
Developed for remote tours with two persons. Fitted with all amenities to achieve a comfortable and unforgettable expedition tour to pathless areas. Because the original hardtop, der rear door, the rear seat with seatbelts, and the rear roll cage are taken off, the weight increases only max. 200 KG ( 400 LB ). All parts are designed in 3D to make the smallest area useful. At your tour destination you can drive an extreme cabriolet with bikini top, while the camper serves you as a mobile home. The Wrangler Unlimited will be developed after production start.

http://www.actioncamper.com

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 10:51 AM
It's interesting that they have removed the roll cage. From what I gather from my colleagues in Europe modification of the existing vehicle from a safety perspective is no longer allowed by European standards.

The manufacturers of vehicle tops like this are now working in a gray area, not quite certain if they are legal or not. It will be interesting what happens with this in the future as most of the pop top build done in Europe require removal of structural parts of the vehicle.

In talking with potential importers of the JK Habitat to Europe the fact that we don't modify the structure of the vehicle was a big plus. It's evident that the resellers in Europe are aware of the contradiction in regulations, and also interesting that the manufacturers are still pushing ahead hoping for the best.

Please read the section >> Rollcage (http://www.actioncamper.com/details.php?ktid=1&artID=5&lng=en) this describes what we'll do. Of course not just cutting off...

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 10:54 AM
http://www.actioncamper.com/details.php?artID=5&ktid=1&lng=en

Hi Adventurer, thanks a lot for posting my project.

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 11:00 AM
Since there are only renderings (I didn't see any pictures of real ones) it seems safe to think that they haven't actually had one built to be inspected, no?

I'm sorry you're right. This week on Thursday the CNC work should be finished. In one more month the tools and the first prototype.

Does anybody know manufacturers who could be interested to produce in U.S.?

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 02:33 PM
Yep. This one must be partially built out of helium. Just FYI, my empty EarthRoamer Jeep, which is very similarly-equipped options-wise and actually encloses less cabin volume weighs about 6500 pounds when loaded but without any interior furniture.

Your Wrangler is equipped with many extras. Everything adds up. I talk about the extra weight of a standard equipped slide-in ( or on, whatever is right ) camper after taking off the original hardtop, the rear door, the rear seat with seat belts, and the rear roll cage.

The shell is an almost closed shell with the furniture as part of the structure. The integrated rear aluminum roll cage helps the structure too, without being heavy.

Optional we'll offer the shell and furniture in carbon.

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 02:39 PM
Εven if we are talking about the swb jk?
Your roof is longer and sturdier in order to stand two people sleeping
on it...Then again...how should i know?


He does not say how can you take off the top when you're out there...

What is the swb jk?
Are you asking me about the roof ... ?

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 02:46 PM
I would love to adapt this to my YJ

Sorry! But this would cost me to much to put the TJ on my wish list.

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 02:47 PM
Please...don't make me think more of it...
I'm this close:exclaim: to let go my trailer project for this...

Will it be a production model or a one off?

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 03:13 PM
Nice concept - but renderings are the easy part. To hit that weight it's going to have to be a fiberglass - foam sandwich I would think, but that brings with some interesting manufacturing challenges and expensive tooling. I'll call it at $15 to $20 k per unit if made in Europe and shipped to USA.

The part I find curious is putting the spare tire in the bed. That rubber stink would be powerfully unpleasant if it was closed up on a hot day, and if you changed out a bad tire I wouldn't want the road dirt in my bed afterwards - and getting it in/out would be a chore on a humid day.

Of course it will be a big challenge. To reduce cost I´ll try to find a manufacturer for the U.S..

I decided to make the same nook area for the Unlimited as for the standard Wrangler because one month in Libya showed me that even on sand the speed can be 70 mph and more. The aerodynamic will be disturbed a lot less by the nook area than by a big 35x12.5" tire on the roof. So at least the Wrangler Unlimited driver can save gas. Right and left of the tire is a large storage compartment for light personal belongings. The tire compartment lid has a gasket so no smell can spread out.

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 03:19 PM
Rubber stink?
Dirt in the bed??
Really...?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

For the standard Wrangler I´ll make a plastic lined cover with the same surface as the seats, to close with an airtight zipper so no smell can spread out.

ActionCamper
02-07-2011, 03:35 PM
I want to say thank you to all forum members writing so many nice things about my ActionCamper project. I also have to say sorry to all of you because it took me so long to answer your questions, but after being 5 week in Libya testing and having fun, I had to get a lot of work to get done first.

I took 730 pictures ( after sorting out ) >> Photos (http://www.actioncamper.com/events.php?kn=LY&lng=en) The Text will be translated soon.

ActionCamper
02-08-2011, 08:50 AM
Interesting detail for Jeepers traveling to other continents:
The ActionCamper can be shipped with a standard container while on the Wrangler.
After airing down to the surface of the internal Staun Beadlocks liner/tube you can roll into the container. ( maximum height 228 cm / 89,8" )
Staun Beadlock - photo (http://www.actioncamper.com/download/staun-beadlock.jpg)

ex m38a1er
02-08-2011, 03:39 PM
Will it be a production model or a one off?

Noooo............
Just another father and son project that's been taking sooooo long...
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22846

ActionCamper
02-09-2011, 09:19 AM
Please...don't make me think more of it...
I'm this close:exclaim: to let go my trailer project for this...

The Wrangler is the best customization platform on earth. That´s why I plan to sell raw bodies too, to give the Jeepers an ActionCamper platform.

If you want I could produce a thin outer shell with closed roof surface, so you could modify and fit it on your TJ. You need to cut out a longitudinal middle section to make it narrower and cut out a transverse section in the middle to make it shorter. A lot of work but maybe it's worth it.

ActionCamper
02-11-2011, 06:09 AM
Material option

Optional we'll offer the shell and furniture in carbon fiber to reduce weight.

ActionCamper
02-14-2011, 03:52 PM
Language question

Is the ActionCamper a slide-on or a slide-in camper. Where is the difference? At home I speak German!

Morticon
02-15-2011, 12:44 AM
slid ON, it is going ON top of the jeep its not going IN the jeep, you go in the jeep, luggage supplies go IN the jeep , a roof rack goes ON the jeep,


not saying i got a's in english but hopefully that helps you understand? lol

ActionCamper
02-19-2011, 10:47 AM
When I started writing here I called it a slide-on camper, but somebody told my that I'm wrong and I should rename it to slide-in camper. I had the same thought like you, that's why I posted the question here.

Doin_It
02-20-2011, 12:19 AM
You just call it what you like, on, it, whatever. Wow to think we'd get so tech. on such a cool idea

portal pat
02-20-2011, 08:51 AM
I still prefer our Australian Trayon. 410 kg. dry ,so 920 lbs. to you. No increase in vehicle overall height, quick to erect and take down, very robust. www.trayon.com.au It's mounted on our '06 4.2 TDI Nissan Patrol here.
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae100/slowzuki/2010_1231trekka20002.jpg
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae100/slowzuki/2010_1231trekka20004.jpg

RVR2RSQ
06-14-2011, 06:38 PM
Action Camper, Any updates on this? Would love to see some pics of the prototype.

Thaks
Brian

nota944mechanic
06-14-2011, 10:22 PM
I still prefer our Australian Trayon. 410 kg. dry ,so 920 lbs. to you. No increase in vehicle overall height, quick to erect and take down, very robust. www.trayon.com.au It's mounted on our '06 4.2 TDI Nissan Patrol here.

Nice!!!


Action Camper, Any updates on this? Would love to see some pics of the prototype.

Thaks
Brian

Hey, the cybernetic organisms in the computer images seem to be enjoying it just fine. Can you say, "Get to the choppa!" :REExeSquatsHL1:

Super mud
06-16-2011, 03:36 PM
Those renderings make me feel claustraphobic and I usually like sleeping in contained areas. Honestly I don't see the point in this thing. If your going to carry the extra weight and go through the hassle of taking this thing on and off you can get much more out of a popup with less expense and more ease.

ActionCamper
07-21-2011, 10:44 AM
Action Camper, Any updates on this? Would love to see some pics of the prototype.

Thaks
Brian

Here is a new thread: 63626-new-from-Austria-ActionCamper-for-Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/63626-new-from-Austria-ActionCamper-for-Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited)

ActionCamper
07-21-2011, 10:45 AM
Nice!!!



Hey, the cybernetic organisms in the computer images seem to be enjoying it just fine. Can you say, "Get to the choppa!" :REExeSquatsHL1:

Here is a new thread: 63626-new-from-Austria-ActionCamper-for-Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/63626-new-from-Austria-ActionCamper-for-Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited)

ActionCamper
07-21-2011, 10:47 AM
Those renderings make me feel claustraphobic and I usually like sleeping in contained areas. Honestly I don't see the point in this thing. If your going to carry the extra weight and go through the hassle of taking this thing on and off you can get much more out of a popup with less expense and more ease.

Look at the changed and much larger shape...

Here is a new thread: 63626-new-from-Austria-ActionCamper-for-Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/63626-new-from-Austria-ActionCamper-for-Jeep-Wrangler-Unlimited)

ActionCamper
07-26-2011, 05:25 AM
Those renderings make me feel claustraphobic and I usually like sleeping in contained areas. Honestly I don't see the point in this thing. If your going to carry the extra weight and go through the hassle of taking this thing on and off you can get much more out of a popup with less expense and more ease.

It is possible to take it on and off, but it offer living space to withstand bad weather on longer expedition tours. This is why I changes the complete shape to be able to sleep with the lift top down. The electronic humans are 5'9" ( 180 cm ).