PDA

View Full Version : Suzuki Samurai Custom Camper Build



trackhead
12-15-2010, 06:05 PM
New start.

chet
12-15-2010, 06:23 PM
well thats different! How do you expect to sleep 3 in there?

trackhead
12-15-2010, 06:34 PM
well thats different! How do you expect to sleep 3 in there?

Plenty of room for two above. I'll sleep out in the dirt with the dog.

Marcie's Disco
12-15-2010, 06:37 PM
Love it!!!! :victory:

The Swiss
12-15-2010, 07:24 PM
Very nice! I like it!

What does your contraption weigh?
How tippy did it get elevating the COG?
How do you seal to windshield and doors?
What kind of canvas do you use for the pop-up sides?

trackhead
12-15-2010, 07:32 PM
What does your contraption weigh?-Not sure. It's VERY light. Compared to the fiberglass enclosures they already make for Samurai's, I'd say it's not much heavier. Sorry for lack of specifics, But it's light. When I'm done with it, I'll take it off and weigh it.


How tippy did it get elevating the COG? It won't be tippy. There is no significant weight up high at all. Less than the rock crawlers have with their gas cans and spare tires on the roof.


How do you seal to windshield and doors? Camper slightly overhangs doors. I will seal that small void with tubular foam/weather stripping.



What kind of canvas do you use for the pop-up sides? Tarpulin. It's a VERY heavy wax impregnated canvas designed for wall tents.

greg mgm
12-15-2010, 07:40 PM
Very cool....I like it!

BTW, I like the music for your video. Who is the band?

shortbus4x4
12-15-2010, 08:44 PM
Thats going to be a cool rig.

ex m38a1er
12-15-2010, 09:35 PM
Hopefully this is going to give you some ideas
http://www.actioncamper.com/details.php?artID=5&ktid=1&lng=en
I still think you're going to need airbags for the rear but that's 70$ fix+air
compressor
Good luck!

Chazz Layne
12-15-2010, 09:57 PM
Wow, and I thought the Discamper was tight... :Wow1:

adrenaline503
12-15-2010, 10:48 PM
Can you provide some more info on how the top is lifted and secured? It looks you have a very simple system, which is great.

trackhead
12-15-2010, 11:47 PM
Can you provide some more info on how the top is lifted and secured? It looks you have a very simple system, which is great.

Stand inside, at the rear first, push it up, swing up angle iron on a hinged system. Angle iron is cross braced for rigidity. Once that's done, hop up on the bed, lift the front up, swing up 16" tall legs into position, just like back. I might stabilize it on high wind days with rope, like a tent. It's pretty secure, but Utah can be violent at times.

trackhead
12-16-2010, 01:26 AM
New start

trackhead
12-16-2010, 03:24 AM
Hopefully this is going to give you some ideas
http://www.actioncamper.com/details.php?artID=5&ktid=1&lng=en
I still think you're going to need airbags for the rear but that's 70$ fix+air
compressor
Good luck!

ABS Plastic 11lbs per sheet x 3.5 sheets=39 pounds
Plywood at 20lbs per sheet x 3.5 sheets=70 pounds
2"x2"x8' at 4lbs each x 12=48 pounds
1"x2"x8' at just over 2lbs x 10 each=20lbs
Canvas approximate weight=10lbs
Pop up supports=6lbs
Adding small cupboards, storage area=10lbs
Approximate total weight of camper=208lbs.

Me 175lbs, wife 115lbs, dog 55lbs, kid (not here yet)=345lbs of mammals.
10 gallons water=80lbs
Clothes, stove, pots, pans, cups, etc=20lbs
Food=30lbs
Extra payload from above=475lbs.

So 475lbs. of stuff, plus 208lb. camper=683lbs. + 2,000lb vehicle weight puts it at 2,700lbs which is well within the 3,000lb gross vehicle weight spec.

With that, I also took off the 50lb back tailgate............so give or take 100lbs of crap, I should be good to go with the gross vehicle weight. We will be packing light. Like a glorified backpacking trip with an internal combustion engine for assist.

dro805
12-16-2010, 06:03 AM
one cool sammy, i cant wait to see more of it

BKCowGod
12-16-2010, 06:45 AM
I love minimalist builds... very nice!

dsw4x4
12-16-2010, 01:56 PM
If you want to sleep two and a half we make and sell Wee Bunks for our Top Bunk roof top tents. They are pretty cheap or you could build one. It would be an easy add to your build and allow you and your wife to sleep with the kid for the next 8 to 10 years. And if the kiddo is not with you it makes a great gear rack to store your clothes in while you are sleeping.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p148/dsw4x4/top%20bunk/IMG_4479.jpg

Little tight for an adult but you get the Idea
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p148/dsw4x4/top%20bunk/IMG_4475.jpg

to see more pictures of the Top and Wee Bunks go to
http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p148/dsw4x4/top%20bunk/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ16
Good luck with your build that is a very cool idea.

Derek

Jnich77
12-16-2010, 02:08 PM
I really like man, and the fact that you made it yourself makes it that much better. That thing is so light you don't need huge tires, heavy recover gear, or a bank loan to drive it all day!


Not that it will be, but it ends up top heavy.. the cheap fix is wheel spacers...lol

compactcamping
12-16-2010, 03:42 PM
Very interesting little camper! Has me thinking about cutting the top off my Sidekick and making it a poptop.

Lajning
12-16-2010, 07:13 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Very sweat build mate.

Glad to see it in a dedicated thread too, so I can comment without going Off Topic ;)

zukrider
12-17-2010, 12:11 AM
i like the idea. but i also will attest to the weight being an issue. ive had 6, and they dont like weight. at the least, add a leaf to the lift. but i will reccomend you look into a yj rear spring swap and use the rubicon express 1.5" 6 leaf pack. then move the rear up front, add the 3rd leaf from the front pack to the rear pack and call it good.

also, come check out the best zuk site you will ever find

www.zukikrawlers.com

great guys and a huge source for tech.

cheers

T.Low
12-17-2010, 12:34 AM
Cool idea. More and better pics please.:exclaim:

deepmud
12-17-2010, 06:46 AM
www.acmeadapters.com

for a VW turbo-diesel conversion kit so you can do highway speeds with the weight.

Or perhaps a 1.6 tracker engine would do ya'.

My 1.9td Samurai would get 27 mpg at 65mph pushing a lifted Zuk w/35" tires - can't be much better (if any) than your camper for wind resistance.

Mind you, the diesel is very torqey, and tough on the trans, where a 1.6 16valve Sidekick swap will make power with rpms, so you can put less torque to the gearbox to make the same power (with gearing).

I like your camper - I'm thinking of something like it so I can make my zuk into a snowcat, I wann' run the Alaska Highway in winter someday (it's been done by a guy in a Jeep on a set of AmericanTruck Tracks- everything has been done :D )

http://i52.tinypic.com/29lbr87.jpg

trackhead
12-17-2010, 12:37 PM
I like your camper - I'm thinking of something like it so I can make my zuk into a snowcat, I wann' run the Alaska Highway in winter someday (it's been done by a guy in a Jeep on a set of AmericanTruck Tracks- everything has been done :D )



Yeah, this frankenstein creation is getting Tatou/Mattracks, or some home made version and will spend it's time at our cabin next winter.

trackhead
12-19-2010, 08:36 PM
After I finish the glass work, I'll put the stock fender flares on with some minor cutting.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF3179.jpg

Might have an appropriately geared transfer case coming for the bigger tires. We'll see.

jeeper92
12-19-2010, 09:42 PM
How about some interior pics? build pics?
thinking something like this on a jeep

trackhead
12-19-2010, 11:06 PM
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF3183.jpg

BFH.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF3185.jpg

Wyowanderer
12-20-2010, 05:26 AM
Nice minimalist build. Keep at it and keep up the posts.

trackhead
12-21-2010, 03:35 PM
Got all the rust cut out, now I'm closing the wheel well holes with glass/bondo, then the flares go back on.

Quick test lap in the yard. Open differentials at the moment, not sure it needs lockers for what I want to do.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0097.jpg

deepmud
12-22-2010, 03:56 AM
with 31's and a rear locker, you can go anywhere that looks like a trail :D Get an EZ locker, and some 4:1 gears (lowers high range to stock with the 31's).

trackhead
12-23-2010, 01:06 PM
Finished up the wheel wells yesterday. 31" tires clear fine for road use, but I will need a 3" lift (going with Deaver's and and extra leaf in the rear) for off road.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0105.jpg

Chazz Layne
12-23-2010, 02:53 PM
Wow, nice work!

Yeah, looks like you need a little more room under there. It has a nice wide stance now though.

TACODOC
12-23-2010, 06:09 PM
Very cool. Love the minimalist approach.

Sebas
01-06-2011, 03:00 PM
Very nice!!!, do you have more pics??

bobDog
01-06-2011, 07:51 PM
Yes....more pics.....please:coffeedrink:

trackhead
01-07-2011, 02:57 AM
More or less finished up the body work......

Going to finish the camper interior, or at least start working on it, next week.

topproscott
01-07-2011, 04:23 AM
Really nice rig - love the idea and execution. Way to just build it and get out there instead of spending years talking about it.

Mr. D
01-07-2011, 05:05 AM
excellent work

SkiFreak
01-07-2011, 09:32 AM
You obviously have more lenient laws than we have...
Here the tires have to be within the wheel wells. :(

trackhead
01-07-2011, 11:42 AM
You obviously have more lenient laws than we have...
Here the tires have to be within the wheel wells. :(

Fender flares that cover the tires are legal in Utah. I put them on, but they are not pictured in this thread.

Rbertalotto
01-08-2011, 02:34 AM
http://www.zuk-n-ovations.com/images/blog/samurai_tracks.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/solarbri/Suzuki%20Samurai/DSC_0013.jpg

YouTube - Suzuki Samurai with Camoplast Tatou 4s tracks

dro805
01-08-2011, 02:54 AM
wow cant wait to see more pics of the inside and outside keep up the good work:safari-rig:

deepmud
01-08-2011, 07:31 AM
http://www.zuk-n-ovations.com/images/blog/samurai_tracks.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/607387/fullsize/trax-003.jpg

Hardly even looks the same does it? :sombrero: I got a little crazy with a sawsall....

It had a vw 1.9td, got 35mpg at 65mph (with 35" tires, not tracks).

Now it's a VW TDI (mechanical pump, non-electronic) with complete Toyota drivetrain.

Sustained high loads were tough on the Suzuki transmission - I blew up 3 old, non-rebuilt ones. ACME recommends a quality rebuilt trans with sythetic oil if you run a 1.9td or a 1.9TDI.

Or the toyota conversion :D

trackhead
01-08-2011, 11:49 AM
Your Zuk is famous^^^^

I'm working with one of the cities here in the SLC valley right now in an effort to open up a new nordic skiing park. They are quite interested in the idea, and if it flies, will need a couple grooming options next year. It could be volunteer grooming, and that is one of the reasons I bought the Zuk.

I've read the infamous/famous thread on Pirate4x4 and your posts about building a Tatou knock off............

deepmud
01-10-2011, 08:39 PM
I know that grooming with light Suzuki's has been done - I don't know any contact info for these guys, I know it's Maine.....

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/602861/fullsize/groomer_on_altonmt_600.jpg

The name of that picture was "groomer on Alton Mountain" - perhaps you could find them using that?

WRONG! Not Maine. New Hampshire - I googled Alton Mountain Grooming and found them.
http://mountmajorsnowmobileclub.com/trail_conditions.htm

They have that pic of the Suzuki up on their website, so I would guess it wasn't a disaster they wish they could forget :D lol

If this wasn't YOUR thread I promise I wouldn't get so off topic :D it's just nice to have this kind of thing "together" when you find it while searching.

hobietony
01-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Can't escape the TGR connection... Looks like your rig will be done a lot quicker than mine

T

trackhead
01-11-2011, 11:53 PM
My neighbors hate me. I'm either ripping up and down the street rejetting my motos, or now toying with this contraption. Oh well, the guy across the street has a huge Jeep rock crawler.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0143.jpg

SLO_F-250
01-12-2011, 04:54 AM
Sweet rig/build you got there. Keep up the great progress! I'm interested to see how it turns out!

swampjeep
01-12-2011, 01:09 PM
same here, very interested how that inside will turn out.

I like it.

Jnich77
01-12-2011, 04:18 PM
Man, I really love it..and the fact that its "home made" just adds 10,000% to the cool factor!!! Anybody can write a check and have something built.. but it takes a lot of heart to build it yourself!.

fjatheart
01-17-2011, 01:37 AM
By far the coolest rig on this forum, I want it!!!

dieselcruiserhead
01-17-2011, 04:07 AM
Trackhead, that is just **awesome.**

Nice work man..!

ddawson
01-25-2011, 03:31 AM
This thing is so rad!! Great work!

SRN
01-25-2011, 04:44 AM
I noticed you have Utah plates, where are you located?

trackhead
01-25-2011, 02:05 PM
I noticed you have Utah plates, where are you located?

Sandy. Hey, question for you......How do you like your OME springs? I've been debating between those and LowRangeOffroad 3" lifted springs they have.

Getting a bunch of goodies this week (lifted springs, t-case gears, other engine stuff), after all that's installed, I'll finish the camper.

8 day trip in 6 weeks, need to get going on all that stuff.

SRN
01-26-2011, 05:06 AM
Sandy. Hey, question for you......How do you like your OME springs? I've been debating between those and LowRangeOffroad 3" lifted springs they have.

Getting a bunch of goodies this week (lifted springs, t-case gears, other engine stuff), after all that's installed, I'll finish the camper.

8 day trip in 6 weeks, need to get going on all that stuff.

The OME springs are awesome. Night and day. Ive had several setups and ridden many others and I have to say the OME springs are amazing.

Personally, I'd stay as far away from Low Range as possible, but that's just my experience.

I'm up in Sugarhouse. Let me know if you need any insight into Samurais, I've been working with them for 21 years in some capacity or another.

trackhead
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
The OME springs are awesome. Night and day. Ive had several setups and ridden many others and I have to say the OME springs are amazing.

Personally, I'd stay as far away from Low Range as possible, but that's just my experience.

I'm up in Sugarhouse. Let me know if you need any insight into Samurais, I've been working with them for 21 years in some capacity or another.

Thanks for the insight.

Funny about Lowrange, I've heard the same thing about RR in Heber.

SRN
01-27-2011, 12:02 AM
Thanks for the insight.

Funny about Lowrange, I've heard the same thing about RR in Heber.

Every company has their detractors. I have always had good service from RR, but their products are not the highest quality and their prices are a little high too.
I had one very very bad experience with Low Range that made them ineligible to receive further business from me. But again, I'm one person with one experience. I've heard many people who have had great service, and I say good for them.
The best Suzuki companies in my book are PetroWorks (http://www.petroworks.com), Hawk Strickly Suzuki (http://www.hawksuzukiparts.com) and TrailTough (http://www.trailtough.com).
Non Suzuki specific companies, but amazing customer service and fair prices for any ARB/OME or general rebuild parts is Cruiser Outfitters (http://www.cruiseroutfitters.com/) and they are located in Sandy, so super convenient.

bondvagabond
02-02-2011, 05:11 PM
I've lurked here for years, and in the last six months there have been so many great samurai related threads I just had to jump on.

I swapped a dirtbike for my samurai and I am thinking of building an aerodynamic fiberglass top, that would extend back a maybe 20 inches or so from the back face of the tailgate. Give a little more room and hopefully improve mpg's even further. My goal is to sleep inside and be able to haul me, the missus, and the two big dogs, plus backpacking gear. Mine got 33mpg on a recent 300mile trip with 4 2000ft mountains to go over. Only mods I've done are k&n intake I literally got out of a dumpster new in box, and 235/75 r15 mud tires.

chet
02-02-2011, 06:07 PM
I have had amazing service from Trailtough in the past. Low range doesn't really make any products just resells others. springs are most likely trailgear. I would go with OME springs. they are worth the price or go with a swap kit ot YJ leafs.

trackhead
02-02-2011, 08:39 PM
I'm going to get OME springs because it's not a rock crawler and ride comfort is more important, but for the next couple months, this project is on hold. I have a 3,000 mile moto trip coming up, and I'm rebuilding the KTM for now.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0200.jpg

SRN
02-04-2011, 03:30 AM
Excellent computer choice as well.

High Country Hillbilly
02-16-2011, 03:13 AM
have the rocky road 6.5's in mine...kinda noisy. any one have an opinion?

Christian P.
02-16-2011, 03:19 AM
Now you can have a snorkel too:

http://www.expeditionportal.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/293-new-suzuki-samurai-snorkel-.html

trackhead
03-25-2011, 11:32 PM
This idea was originally spawned to go on a trip for ten days around Utah with my wife, but as her pregancy goes on, she bailed on the trip, not wanting to bounce around in a bumpy Samurai at 7mos pregnant. So I went on a moto trip. (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669995):victory:

Now that I have time, I decided to do it right. I took the other camper off and cut off the back of the Samurai a few days ago. I want to build a fancy foam/fiberglass sandwich/monocoque design. I've been reading up on that a bit, and think I might try to make something like this, with the direction of "pop up" yet to be determined.

I'm not a 3D expert, but here's what I'm working towards.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/Picture2-1.png

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/Picture1-4.png

I've recently been monkeying around with composites, making a pannier system for my moto. I learned a bit doing that, and I think I can translate some of that experience into a camper.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0267.jpg

Going to spend the next few weeks thinking, designing, and rethinking. Then after I pay my damn taxes, I'll start building.

trackhead
03-26-2011, 11:28 PM
Found a refrigerator that will fit in the given space, as well as a small LP tank. Here's the general idea so far.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/Picture1-5.png

thebrassnuckles
03-27-2011, 12:43 AM
amazing. cant wait. I will be following closely.

tamangel
03-27-2011, 03:25 AM
Very cool....I like it!

BTW, I like the music for your video. Who is the band?

I didn't see where anyone answered your question, here's what I found:

'You've Been Spiked' by Chris Joss

Its on you tube..

mike

bobDog
03-27-2011, 03:28 AM
I must say this concept is looking cool!!!!!:victory: You have to keep going! I'm hooked and I can't do this so???

trackhead
03-27-2011, 08:06 PM
150-200lbs of junk (seat, roll bar, body) removed from the Samurai today, ready to start building. I'd like to do a construction process like these guys (http://www.hookedupfilms.com/huf-camper-part-viii/) did.

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0385.jpg

adrenaline503
03-27-2011, 11:53 PM
Are you going to use kevlar/carbon or fiberglass?

trackhead
03-28-2011, 12:50 AM
Are you going to use kevlar/carbon or fiberglass?

No, I used that stuff on my pannier system and it sucked to work with. I've worked with regular carbon fiber before, and it's not too bad.

airmanwilliams
05-09-2011, 02:22 PM
very nice man we will have to hook up some time so I can come see that. I have a buddy as well as myself that have wanted to make campers for our sami's. are you on rme4x4.com at all? I go to sandy quite often to go to a buddy of mines place to tinker on my samurai and would love to come by, send me a pm.

trackhead
05-18-2011, 08:57 PM
Been working on the Samurai for a couple weeks.

1. Chopped the entire body off behind the seats, then made a 'tub' out of fiberglass (no rust).
2. Used 2' foam panels sandwiched in fiberglass/epoxy.
3. Bondo and fiberglass around the doors.
4. Final layer will be one or two layers of black carbon fiber.
5. Windows and back door will be cut out and added after the carbon.

This thing is super stiff already. When you push on it from any angle, the whole vehicle moves. It's also very light. Certainly no more than a stock Samurai with a fiberglass enclosure.

Still have a ton of prep work to do before laying carbon. Things like making the corners as clean as possible, making a solid wheel flare to cover the 1" of tire hanging out past the wheel well, sanding, and more sanding.

These flares over the door are/were a difficult. Tons of time in them, and a ton more to finish them up before carbon.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0581.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0583.jpg

airmanwilliams
05-18-2011, 09:01 PM
GREAT work trackhead. I look forward to seeing the finished product at some point. you should bring it to the lowrangeoffroad show and shine this summer. I believe its on september 10th but sean would know for sure.

trackhead
05-18-2011, 09:04 PM
GREAT work trackhead. I look forward to seeing the finished product at some point. you should bring it to the lowrangeoffroad show and shine this summer. I believe its on september 10th but sean would know for sure.

My goal is to have it done by the end of August, then drive it around a bunch to make sure it's reliable, work out the kinks, etc.

My wife and I have an October trip planned to the Maze with our newborn, so that's the goal, get it done before then.

Jnich77
05-19-2011, 12:12 AM
wicked!!!!!

Backroad Explorer
05-19-2011, 03:26 AM
trachead; Most EXCELENT SAMURAI BUILD :Wow1: !!! I can't wait to see how the Pop-Up comes out.

Brian

trackhead
05-19-2011, 03:43 AM
trachead; Most EXCELENT SAMURAI BUILD :Wow1: !!! I can't wait to see how the Pop-Up comes out.

Brian

Hoping to do a Wildernest style camper. That way my wife and youngster can sleep in that, and I can sleep perpendicular to them over the cab. Sort of a big "L" shaped configuration.

Backroad Explorer
05-19-2011, 04:17 AM
I thought maybe Flip-Pac but Wildernest style will be much better. Gives you a nice outside seating area with an awning that way :drool:

AeroNautiCal
05-22-2011, 12:42 AM
Super stuff on this Suzuki! http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/helixpteron/happy0034.gif

trackhead
05-26-2011, 11:33 PM
Got the final fiberglass layer on the main part of the camper. Also got the wheel flares built and glassed. This is the final layer, then when my windows get here next week, I'll cut out holes for those and install them.

Got the first layer of glass on the pop top today as well. That turned out pretty well, but I've got a ton more hours I need to put into it before I can mount it.

Left side.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0612.jpg

Right side.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0613.jpg

Not sure on the final finish. Might just leave it rough, prime it, and paint it. No reason to make it all fancy, as I'm building this thing to abuse it, not parade around town.

Jnich77
05-26-2011, 11:49 PM
If it was me, I woudl get it as smooth as I can. It will make cleaning soooo much easier.

trackhead
05-26-2011, 11:50 PM
If it was me, I woudl get it as smooth as I can. It will make cleaning soooo much easier.

True, but I have no idea at this point how to do that. No hurry though, a little research should do the trick,

Jnich77
05-26-2011, 11:54 PM
True, but I have no idea at this point how to do that. No hurry though, a little research should do the trick,


Well, you are off to a good start by laying it down smooth to begin with. You can load up a couple extra layers of resin then sand it down smooth, combined with a light coat of body filler to fill in the pin holes.

windsock
05-26-2011, 11:59 PM
True, but I have no idea at this point how to do that. No hurry though, a little research should do the trick,

I used to use 'idiot boards (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/58926-POD-Homebuilt-foam-core-fiberglass-skin-pop-up-camper-build-thread?p=858381#post858381)' while fairing yacht hulls years ago. Works well on flat and curved surfaces. These are better than anything else for removing the same amount of surface over a large area unlike machine hand sanders which can do a lot of damage in a small area. A good point to work from with your research :D

Nice looking build.

trackhead
05-27-2011, 12:27 AM
I used to use 'idiot boards (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/58926-POD-Homebuilt-foam-core-fiberglass-skin-pop-up-camper-build-thread?p=858381#post858381)' while fairing yacht hulls years ago. Works well on flat and curved surfaces. These are better than anything else for removing the same amount of surface over a large area unlike machine hand sanders which can do a lot of damage in a small area. A good point to work from with your research :D

Nice looking build.

Thanks for the ideas.

Backroad Explorer
05-27-2011, 04:27 AM
trackhead your doing to great of a job to leave it rough. I know it will be more work for you but in the end ? What kind of windows Slider or pop out ? You have my intrest peaked !!

zukrider
05-27-2011, 04:39 AM
i know im a little too late, but you should have extended the rear frame and pushed it all back about 5 inches. i am on my 8th sami, and they really do a lot better with a little more length.

but, i think this is a cool concept. keep up the good work.

trackhead
05-27-2011, 02:15 PM
trackhead your doing to great of a job to leave it rough. I know it will be more work for you but in the end ? What kind of windows Slider or pop out ? You have my intrest peaked !!

15 x 24" slider for the right side. 15 x 24" non-slider for back door.

After some Youtube research, I will do the endless sanding when the time comes. Still a ways off.

trackhead
05-27-2011, 02:18 PM
i know im a little too late, but you should have extended the rear frame and pushed it all back about 5 inches. i am on my 8th sami, and they really do a lot better with a little more length.

but, i think this is a cool concept. keep up the good work.

I thought about doing that, but I just sold my motorhome, and the idea of this build is the extreme opposite of a motorhome. I want it to be light, small. I also don't have the welding skills or really knowledge of autos to pull that off. Rebuilding a motorcycle, no problem, but auto's are new to me. Trying to stay as stock as possible to stay within my limited realm of knowledge. Plus, I want to eventually put Tatou tracks on it, so light will be important.

trackhead
05-29-2011, 04:12 AM
Worked a bit today on the bondo/smoothing/sanding. Seems to be working well by sanding endlessly with 80 grit, then 120, 220, 400, and eventually 800 I guess. After my arms fall off from sanding it looks like filling the pin holes with Evercoat, then more sanding, then polyester primer/paint.

Here's a section of bondo/glass. Haven't put much time into it, but it is smoothing out nice. Obviously plenty of pin holes and tons more sanding to do.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0632.jpg

Backroad Explorer
05-29-2011, 05:19 AM
trackhead; OHH MAN is it going to look good when it's done. I think all the effort will be worth it. Any pic's from the side possible? I may have missed it but what part of this country are you in? Again Great Work :bigbossHL:

trackhead
05-29-2011, 01:42 PM
trackhead; OHH MAN is it going to look good when it's done. I think all the effort will be worth it. Any pic's from the side possible? I may have missed it but what part of this country are you in? Again Great Work :bigbossHL:

I live SLC, UT.

Goofy looking rig, looks like a convoluted dump truck. It looks a little less goofy with the roof on. The idea behind the shape was this, I wanted to keep the short wheelbase and not have the camper extend over the front of the cab for wind resistance reasons, nor off the back to get crushed on a rock. I needed to make the top at least 65" long for my wife and kid, and I will sleep below on a fold out bench.

Ugly, not sanded. Still have to cut a hole for the gas cap. Brown area will be a 15x24" window next week.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0634.jpg

trackhead
05-29-2011, 11:28 PM
Got the right side sanded to 80 grit and the gas cap installed. My arms are going to fall off from sanding.

Still have to sand around the gas cap opening.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0638.jpg

Backroad Explorer
05-30-2011, 04:28 AM
Comeing along nicely trackhead :lurk:

Quill
05-30-2011, 12:42 PM
That is some real dedicated work.

trackhead
05-30-2011, 11:33 PM
Got the camper rough sanded today and a rough cut of the roof done. My arms have fallen off.

Plenty of photovoltaics.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0644.jpg

Still have to sand the front of the camper, then more sanding with 120, 200, 400, 800, etc. Then a ton of work on the roof mating edges, more glass, etc, etc.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0645.jpg

Windows should be here tomorrow. In the meantime, this is the pile of sanding debris from today. The rest is in my hair, nose, mouth, eyes, ears, and lungs. Despite wearing a nice respirator...................
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0643.jpg

Christian P.
05-31-2011, 08:14 PM
here's some inspiration....

http://i.ebayimg.com/07/!!syOIfw!W0~$(KGrHqEOKkUE)MZUhbcnBMh3sEb63!~~_27.J PG

http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!!syOIsgEG0~$(KGrHqUOKicE)(fgFcRkBMh3sO15Lg~~_27.J PG

more:

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=135548477&__lp=16&scopeId=MH&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&vehicleCategory=Motorhome&segment=Motorhome&features=FOUR_WHEEL_DRIVE&negativeFeatures=EXPORT&lang=en&pageNumber=1

trackhead
05-31-2011, 11:30 PM
Got the windows in today and the back door rough cut out.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0663.jpg

Now it's time to work on the roof, then more sanding, then the rear lights. After all that, hopefully paint it, then spend a couple weeks putting new transfer case gears in, new lifted springs, etc.

Backroad Explorer
06-01-2011, 02:07 AM
I sure hope you have a DA air sander trackhead. Windows look great. Are you going with the wilderness style top?

trackhead
06-01-2011, 02:13 AM
I sure hope you have a DA air sander trackhead. Windows look great. Are you going with the wilderness style top?

Yeah, I ended up buying one, but I still need to finish with a block sander by hand to get it as smooth as possible.

Decided against the Wildernest style flip out, too much weight to get the bed strong enough. Doing a pop up, mini-wildernest bed type thing.

Might get slowed down on progress with my wife popping a little one out probably tomorrow.

You have a Thiokol Imp, eh? Cool snowcats. I owned a little Bombardier Bombi for a while, but I'd like to get an Imp or Super Imp at some point in my life.

Backroad Explorer
06-01-2011, 02:18 AM
Congratulations on the New Baby :victory:. I think about a weeks rest is in order. Let us know if it's a Girl or a Boy.

trackhead
06-08-2011, 09:44 PM
Only getting an hour or two a day to work on it with the newborn, but getting closer.

Still need to do a ton more sanding, mount the door, add another layer of glass to the interior of the roof, then work getting a clean mating surface between the pop top and the main camper.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/IMAG0751.jpg

Jnich77
06-08-2011, 09:48 PM
Looks good!!!

AeroNautiCal
06-09-2011, 10:42 PM
That's a phenomenal build! http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/helixpteron/happy0034.gif

Even more impressive that you made this happen in the minuscule amount of time available to a new father, congratulations on that, too! http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/helixpteron/stork-baby.gif

Backroad Explorer
06-11-2011, 01:17 AM
trackhead I hope your Wife and the Baby are doing well. Nice to see you get to do a little on the samurai. Keep up the good work.

trackhead
06-11-2011, 05:44 PM
Any Samurai expert suggestions on suspension?

I want to stay spring under and was considering YJ's for a little lift, a little added robustness, and better ride. But that said, I'm hesitant to stray too far from stock configuration and end up with some goofy handling characteristics. I also considered OME springs, but I'm worried they might be too soft and not support the slightly heavier payload. Lastly, I'm thinking some economical 3" lifted springs from Low Range might be the way to go????

So far, I'm thinking GVW will be 3,000lbs.

Jeff@QuadShop
06-11-2011, 07:21 PM
I'd go with the OME's, you can get them in 3 different spring rates one being stiff for hauling weight.

Backroad Explorer
06-11-2011, 09:00 PM
X2 trackhead I'm with Jeff

trackhead
06-12-2011, 01:55 AM
I'd go with the OME's, you can get them in 3 different spring rates one being stiff for hauling weight.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of the variable spring rates. I know you can "add a leaf" to them. I'll go that route, as I've never heard of anyone with OME's who hasn't liked the ride.

airmanwilliams
06-16-2011, 08:35 PM
just alittle info for you, that guy in taylorsville that you bought the wheels and tires from is picking up a camper soon and will be parting it out and it might get you some nice cheap internals for your build.

trackhead
06-17-2011, 01:17 AM
just alittle info for you, that guy in taylorsville that you bought the wheels and tires from is picking up a camper soon and will be parting it out and it might get you some nice cheap internals for your build.

Good to know, thx.

Got some 4.16 gears today.

Progress was slow this week. Too much work and baby time to get much of anything done.

Overland Hadley
06-17-2011, 03:33 AM
:lurk:

airmanwilliams
06-23-2011, 03:13 PM
any updates this week? do you have pics of the inside for us?

trackhead
06-24-2011, 01:46 AM
any updates this week? do you have pics of the inside for us?

I'm almost ready for painting. No updates because it looks the same, like a bondo/sanded goofy Samurai.:ylsmoke:

After it's painted, I'm doing T-case gears and suspension. Interior won't be done until last.

trackhead
06-28-2011, 07:48 PM
Filled all the pinholes last night and spent an eternity block sanding. Almost ready for priming. I am completely over sanding at this point.

This is after 80 grit sanding. Getting very smooth.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-06-28_11-18-20_74.jpg

windsock
06-28-2011, 10:43 PM
:D

Wryly smiling at the statement about sanding. I worked with two/three others in a glassing/fairing/sanding department in a yacht building yard quite a few years ago and 90% of our workload was sanding. Needless to say, the need for intellectual stimuli saw us as the scourge of the other staff of the boatyard. Practical jokes seemed to make going to work worthwhile... take away the idiot board and you're left with... :wings:

The Sami camper is looking good :victory:.

trackhead
06-29-2011, 12:13 AM
:D

Wryly smiling at the statement about sanding. I worked with two/three others in a glassing/fairing/sanding department in a yacht building yard quite a few years ago and 90% of our workload was sanding.

So how fine did you sand before painting?? 220 grit enough?

Brian McVickers
06-29-2011, 12:53 AM
I can't wait to see how this all turns out!
Amazing work.

Thanks for sharing it with us!!

By the way, where are you?

Brian

trackhead
06-29-2011, 01:01 AM
By the way, where are you?

Brian

Utardia.

Backroad Explorer
06-29-2011, 04:56 AM
trackhead I don't envy you the sanding but I do the Camper: Looking smooooth :victory: any thoughts on color yet?

trackhead
06-29-2011, 11:52 AM
trackhead I don't envy you the sanding but I do the Camper: Looking smooooth :victory: any thoughts on color yet?

Something not glossy, not black, maybe tan/brown? Not anything bright or flashy.

Open to suggestions.

Riptide
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
I'd consider your environment; the white top is always practical, with maybe grey sides. I always thought that was good for an overlander...

Backroad Explorer
06-29-2011, 03:10 PM
I like the Tan/Brown idea! Main body Tan with Brown Wheel arches & Rocker Panels, Grill & Headlight surround. Suzuki on Grill in Tan.
White Roof to keep things cool inside. A few idea's to mull over :coffeedrink:

nely
06-29-2011, 03:16 PM
I paint my 80 pickup rustoleum dark taupe. Bought it in quarts at home depot and sprayed it. Not glossy and covered nicely.

http://tapatalk.com/mu/d03604f5-4307-5e28.jpg
Pic for color reference
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk

trackhead
06-29-2011, 04:27 PM
^^^^^^^^^That's what I was thinking. Matches well with the Utah desert where the Samurai will reside.

trackhead
06-29-2011, 11:23 PM
Working on priming now. Prime, sand, prime, sand...........

Missed some pin holes and other little imperfections. Perhaps the 10ft rule needs to apply? If you can't see the imperfection from 10ft, it doesn't exist. After all, it's a Samurai, not a Landcruiser/Lexus.

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-06-29_17-13-36_928.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-06-29_17-14-43_32.jpg

Jnich77
06-30-2011, 12:13 AM
Naaa.. spend the extra time to make it look perfect.

trackhead
06-30-2011, 12:33 AM
Naaa.. spend the extra time to make it look perfect.

It will never look like a pro job from 1ft unless I spent 6 more months on just the body work. Even then.............it's my first rodeo.

gahi
06-30-2011, 01:38 AM
you need some spot putty to fill the pin holes. you just dab it in there, let it dry then sand down and prime. But, quit while your ahead. The first scratch wont hurt as bad then.

trackhead
06-30-2011, 02:46 AM
you need some spot putty to fill the pin holes. you just dab it in there, let it dry then sand down and prime. But, quit while your ahead. The first scratch wont hurt as bad then.

Is there an automotive spot putty? I just used the Bondo green jelly stuff.

gahi
06-30-2011, 04:20 AM
yup 3M makes it. I guess its more referred to as a glazing putty.
http://3mcollision.com/products/fillers-and-glaze/putty/3m-acryl-red-glazing-putty-05098.html

I usually buy it a Napa or Carquest

zukrider
06-30-2011, 06:18 AM
for suspension, consider running some 83-85 toy front leafs. they are i think an inch shorter than yjs, if not the same, and a much higher spring rate. i had a set of 4" lift that were slightly used, and they matched the height of the 2.5 ome's i had in front. used them to replace the ome's in back. way to soft, killed them on the way to moab with my week long camping load. those toy springs can be found used for very cheap, or new and cheap as well. i would run some yj's up front, without missing links for stability. but run 6 leafs. get em from trailtough.com for $89 a piece. stock height.

for traction aids. if you are planning on staying with zuk axles, a guy here in colorado is working on making a cable locker for the rear sami. he is on zukikrawlers.com, goes by geckocycles. here is the link, http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=39814. it is in the last couple pages. he does awesome work, contact him if interested. otherwise, i would run toys or d44's. the d44's will help with center of gravity for sure. and both have options for selectable lockers.

good luck

joe

trackhead
06-30-2011, 07:53 PM
Naaa.. spend the extra time to make it look perfect.

I was trying to get this rig done before October for a Maze trip, but I decided to take the slow approach and do my best to make the body as clean as possible.

Grinding all the paint off today from the Samurai body to start with a clean slate. Also doing all the nitpicky touch up stuff to make it look good from 2-3ft, instead of ten. It'll never be quite perfect, but the slow approach takes the stress out of trying to finish it by October.

windsock
07-02-2011, 03:12 AM
So how fine did you sand before painting?? 220 grit enough?

It was so long ago now I cannot remember the exact grit number. We got it to the smooth stage with no visible sanding marks. Possibly around the 120 - 180 mark. We then two-pot gloss coated it to a fine finish then used cutting paste and polish head for the final polish. These were open water cruising sailboats up to 42' long. This was from the water line up. Water line down was finished in antifoul so a gloss finish wasn't necessary.

Are you using an idiot board? Long lengths of sand paper remove a lot of material for a marginal increase in effort.

gahi
07-02-2011, 04:04 AM
For a high gloss automotive finish you go to 600.

airmanwilliams
07-02-2011, 04:18 AM
on that paint job you ought to give that guy parker that you bought the wheels and tires from a call. he did mine and I had him use the rustoleum gloss black that way when I need a touch up I can get the paint in a spray can for an easy touch up. Looking great by the way. Oh and if your interested in getting to know lots more samurai owners here in utah I started a facebook group called UTAH SAMURAI OWNERS and we have 27 members so far.

trackhead
07-02-2011, 12:01 PM
Thanks for the painting ideas and advice. Probably another couple weeks before I can paint.

airmanwilliams
07-27-2011, 12:25 AM
any updates on the painting? what color and paint have you chosen?

trackhead
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
any updates on the painting? what color and paint have you chosen?

No updates because progress has been limited. I've spent some free time getting my moto ready for a Colorado trip in two weeks.

The last month has been spent removing ALL the paint from the Samurai, then priming. I'm almost finished prepping the roof (bondo/sanding/etc) and should have it fully primed and ready to paint end of next week. This body work has been really tedious, but I'm almost done. I'll post pics of it when it's painted.

After it's painted, the interior work, suspension work, and transfer case gears are all that will be left to do. That stuff will go much quicker than all the endless sanding.

trackhead
08-03-2011, 01:11 AM
Got the ugly thing primed/sanded, then the first coat of paint. Haven't sanded this brown coat yet. It'll probably change a little, might add more black. I suck at design, so it's goofy, but functional.

It's nice to finally move on from endless fiberglass sanding. Hopefully I can finish up the painting this week and then do the suspension lift next week. Then finish the interior, then the transfer case gears.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-02_19-01-27_739.jpg

gahi
08-03-2011, 01:41 AM
Every time I do a project, by the time its close to getting done there are already a lot of things I would have done different. Thats how you learn and move forward. So dont be too hard on yourself about design elements. You can fix them all this winter:D

trackhead
08-03-2011, 01:53 AM
Every time I do a project, by the time its close to getting done there are already a lot of things I would have done different. Thats how you learn and move forward. So dont be too hard on yourself about design elements. You can fix them all this winter:D

Funny how that works, isn't it! The main thing I would have changed is how I built it, not the structure, dimensions, or any of that, but just the build process. I could have saved a LOT of time. But, live and learn.

This little piglet will be in service in a couple months, and I plan to use the crap out of it.

I sold my motorhome this springs, so this is my new "motorhome".

trackhead
08-11-2011, 12:51 AM
Forward progress is slow these days with the 2 month old in the house. Despite that, I managed to install the blinkers/lights and get them all wired up. Took some fiddling to get the reverse lights to work after finding out the switch on the tranny was wore out.

Now that the exterior is more or less done, I'm going to start on the interior and get the basics done so it's road worthy. That shouldn't take too long, then it's time for new suspension. After that, I can start driving it around to test it out and make sure it's road worthy, reasonably reliable, etc. Transfer case gears, pop top, and interior finish (in that order) will come last.


http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-10_18-36-47_488.jpg

I'm putting auxiliary lights over the cab, but haven't cut out the openings for them yet.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-10_18-35-49_21.jpg

trailrunner
08-11-2011, 05:20 AM
Looks real cool man!

trackhead
08-26-2011, 01:34 PM
Slow progress as of late due to the baby in the house and a recent moto trip. (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=717689) Managed to put some new transfer case gears in this week in between changing diapers and thawing out breast milk.

If all goes well, I'll install the case back on the Samurai next week, and hopefully go down and pick up new shocks/springs/steering stabilizer.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-22_13-21-57_215.jpg

Toyotero
08-26-2011, 01:54 PM
Are you going to install a anti-sway bar on the rear ? (or do Zukes have them from the factory?)

trackhead
08-27-2011, 01:09 PM
Are you going to install a anti-sway bar on the rear ? (or do Zukes have them from the factory?)

Not sure. I guess when it's finally ready to drive around, I'll load it up and see how it does. Doesn't seem like a bad idea though.

zukrider
08-29-2011, 09:20 PM
what gears did you go with?

Ford Prefect
08-30-2011, 12:38 AM
How concerned are you with these things tipping?

I mean they REALLY like to take naps on the trails, but a softy, or a tin top is not that big of a deal to right, that thing would be hard to right and cause a lot of damage to the structure if it flopped. (In my uneducated opinion) Am I wrong?

Would it be feasible to put on some YJ/TJ axles to give you a wider stance on the road thereby increasing your stability on the road and in the corners?

Really looking forward to seeing how this turns out on the inside! IT is a SUPER idea in my mind, I hope this works out REALLY well for you!

zukrider
08-30-2011, 02:42 AM
no need for axles, just use 15x8 wheels with 2.5" back space. they really arent that hard to keep upright. his will obviously be easier, but he has also stated that this really wont be wheeling. just overlanding!

trackhead
08-31-2011, 09:22 PM
How concerned are you with these things tipping?



I have no interest in wheeling, especially with my wife and kid on board, which is what this was designed for. I sold my motorhome and proceeded with this project so I could take my wife/kid places I go on my moto. Wheeling bores me to tears, and I'd rather be flying along with 12" of travel on my KTM.:bike_rider: I also have no intentions of racing around corners and all that, slow and steady, I'll be fine. Ultimately, it will have an external roll cage of sorts to protect it, in the event of the worst happening.

Got the 4.16 gears in last week. Tested them this week, and they seem to work fine. 4-Low is a little abrupt if you're not careful with the clutch, but everything works fine.

Finishing up the interior this week when the kid is knapping. Still have to put in shelves, stove, sink, water tank. I'll probably wait to do that until later, as I want to do the suspension next week.

Alex posing in his rig. The floor splits just ahead of him, opening in two places. There will be storage and a water tank below him with about a 10" depth.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-31_14-27-43_112.jpg

I had some left over Pergo flooring, so I used it in the Samurai. Welcome to the ghetto, wall to wall carpet baby.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-31_14-32-59_647.jpg

Porta-potty. No reason to leave toilet paper all over the Utah desert.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-31_15-04-59_881.jpg

Day couch.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-31_15-03-29_514.jpg

Water tank will eventually go under the floor with some tools, etc.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-08-31_15-11-30_912.jpg

Yeah, it's not an XPVJ whatever, but I'll have less than $5,000 in to it by the time I'm done(including price of vehicle). And yeah, it won't go 75mph down the highway, but it will go anywhere else I need it to, and I won't be sending my hard earned money to the bank.

Jnich77
08-31-2011, 11:47 PM
but it will go anywhere else I need it to, and I won't be sending my hard earned money to the bank.

Thats all that matters man!!!

Ford Prefect
09-01-2011, 04:58 AM
Sorry if I came off hard, that was not the intent. I just mean that I assume you are going to go on forest roads and such, and I have been on a few that were tippy, or at least they would be with a tall narrow vehicle.

So how do you plan to bolt down the car seat? Just right in the middle of the floor, I assume??

Looking forward to interior shots of the progress!

OH, and hey, where in Utah do you live?

Regards,

trackhead
09-01-2011, 11:20 AM
Sorry if I came off hard, that was not the intent.

I didn't take it that way. After all the "Samurai Roll Over" fears of the 80's, I expect a few questions about that:)

Yeah, forest roads, White Rim, The Maze, Book Cliffs, Uintas, west desert, that kind of stuff.

Car seat: I have two pieces of square tubular steel that I laid in the bed (bolted/glassed in) when I built it.

Going down to Low Range to pick up the suspension stuff today. Hopefully I'll finish that up next week and tie up loose ends. I'm going to our cabin in Bear Lake for a week in October, and I'd like to take it up their to put around in and sort things out. I'll finish the pop up at some point. The goal was to use it for a trip this October, but the new kid slowed that down. Now it's a goal of a ten day trip in March.

gahi
09-01-2011, 02:21 PM
Some stuff to think about for the car seat, I recently went through adapting my truck so all 3 of us could travel in it.

Originally I thought build a platform that the seat attaches to out of tubing. Then I mocked that up and came to the conclusion that all the vibrations of the truck would go right into the car seat. And with very little padding in the car seat I think the kid would get miserable fast. When a car seat is setup in a normal way, the car's real seats absorb most of the shock and vibration.

So I scrapped my original plan and adapted my original center seat cushions to work on a new frame. I think design at least 3" of firmish foam in between the frame and the car seat.

trackhead
09-01-2011, 03:37 PM
Some stuff to think about for the car seat, I recently went through adapting my truck so all 3 of us could travel in it.

Originally I thought build a platform that the seat attaches to out of tubing. Then I mocked that up and came to the conclusion that all the vibrations of the truck would go right into the car seat. And with very little padding in the car seat I think the kid would get miserable fast. When a car seat is setup in a normal way, the car's real seats absorb most of the shock and vibration.

So I scrapped my original plan and adapted my original center seat cushions to work on a new frame. I think design at least 3" of firmish foam in between the frame and the car seat.

Great tips, I hadn't thought of that at all. Thanks!

trackhead
09-01-2011, 07:02 PM
Took a trip down to Low Range Offroad and picked up some goodies.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-01_12-58-33_96.jpg

Plenty of Suzuki's in the parking lot.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-01_11-55-25_159.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-01_11-55-13_603.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-01_11-55-48_54.jpg

Ford Prefect
09-01-2011, 09:53 PM
If you check out various sami forums, and even jeepforum.com you can find some threads on how to chop a YJ fold and tumble rear seat in half!

ALSO you can find old FJ40 single fold and tumble rear seats. I think that would be the best way to go for you. They fold right up out of the way, but still give you the DOT approved seat for the car seat to be on... If you do not mind my mentioning it.

Low Range is just a few miles from my house, nice little store they have there.

trackhead
09-02-2011, 01:49 PM
If you do not mind my mentioning it.



Another great idea, thanks. I remember sitting on one of those miserable seats in the back of a friends FJ. Simple solution.

trackhead
09-03-2011, 02:53 AM
Took the Samurai out for it's first spin outside of my driveway since last winter. Transfer case gears are awesome. Put it in 4L and let the clutch out, no gas needed. 2H is MUCH better too. Went out to a little dirt park by my house, down a narrow side hill road that dead ends. The vehicle is so short, it's amazing how easy it is to turn around in the most unlikely of places.

It's kinda creepy driving an uninsured/unlicensed vehicle like this through the neighborhood, as you don't exactly blend in. Hope to get it inspected after I get the new steering/springs on next week.

bobDog
09-03-2011, 06:17 AM
It's kinda creepy driving an uninsured/unlicensed vehicle like this through the neighborhood, as you don't exactly blend in. Hope to get it inspected after I get the new steering/springs on next week.Its only creepy cause you know. A few years back I noticed on a Friday nite that I had expired plates.....April!....it was June. I had been driving around w/o a care. But man the minute I knew I crept around for the weekend freaked out. No problems....I think cops only look at the start of every month! :sombrero:

airmanwilliams
09-06-2011, 11:34 PM
wow ive been gone awhile. great work man. sure hope you plan to bring this to provo this saturday 10th september. its from 10am-3pm.

trackhead
09-07-2011, 01:48 AM
wow ive been gone awhile. great work man. sure hope you plan to bring this to provo this saturday 10th september. its from 10am-3pm.

Not a chance. Not done with it yet, plus, I work every weekend.

trackhead
09-08-2011, 03:22 AM
Spent the last day and a half grinding, drilling, cutting, cussing, and smashing my knuckles trying to swap out the 20+ year old springs and put on the new springs/shackles for a 3" lift.

Looks WAY too high, but I'm told springs settle a bit, and this is without gas, passengers, water, camping stuff. The front is also a little high, but I'll solve that by mounting the tire on the front, along with a jack, and maybe eventually a winch. That should level it out. Still need to install longer shocks. Also spent all day trying to get the pitman arm off for the beefed up steering stuff I bought. Broke one pitman puller, trying again with a beefier puller friday. Hate this kind of work. I'd much rather work on my moto.

Circus vehicle. Those are 31" tires, that's all the bigger I want to go. Hopefully the springs settle a bit, and the load of everything brings it down a bit. If not, oh well.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-07_17-08-33_313-1.jpg

Jeff@QuadShop
09-08-2011, 04:11 PM
Yeah, the springs will settle after a good flexxing.
Hit on the side of the pitman arm where the steering box shaft goes in with a big hammer, this will loosen it up.

zukrider
09-08-2011, 10:32 PM
Yeah, the springs will settle after a good flexxing.
Hit on the side of the pitman arm where the steering box shaft goes in with a big hammer, while applying tension with the puller, this will loosen it up.

you forgot this part!

Jeff@QuadShop
09-09-2011, 01:51 PM
you forgot this part!

No I didn't, I don't even own a puller and they come right off this way.

trackhead
09-09-2011, 01:59 PM
Yeah, the springs will settle after a good flexxing.
Hit on the side of the pitman arm where the steering box shaft goes in with a big hammer, this will loosen it up.

Thanks for the info and insight. I already broke one cheap puller that I "rented" from an auto parts store. Going to try to find a beefier one to use, then I'll get out the BFH and pound on it.

Took a break yesterday from smashing my knuckles against rusted Samurai parts. This is the best way to explore for suitable Samurai terrain for the wife/kid. In one day you can cover terrain that would take 3 days on four wheels.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0421.jpg

trackhead
09-09-2011, 07:46 PM
Got the pitman arm off this morning. Rented a better tool, then did the following.

1. Tighten the tool.
2. Hit the threaded part of the tool with an 8lb maul.
3. Tighten the tool a bit more.
4. Hit it again.
5. Repeat.


Here's the stock pitman arm with the Sky steering stuff installed. It's not perfectly parallel, but it's close. Seems a drop pitman would put it too low.

Yeah, haven't cut off the u-bolts on the springs yet.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/pitman.jpg

Ford Prefect
09-13-2011, 05:45 AM
I just left the Ubolts long on my CJ7 because I was thinking about putting on a set of Ubolt skid plates. yeah that was a mistake. I ended up bending them right off, and never did get the skids. They did, however, work flawlessly for the duration of my ownership of the jeep, and that included taking the ubolts off to put on bigger axles. I had to chop off a bit of the bent stuff to do that, but they came right off still, so that was nice!

Wow, yeah, that looks like a great road to ride on. I need to find good riding trails around Utah myself. Just picked up a KLR and need to find places to play now!

trackhead
09-13-2011, 10:37 PM
Drove up the canyon behind my house. Approximately 10 miles of 8-10% grade from 5,000ft to 9,800ft. Managed to average 32mph or so, with one brief stint in second gear. Overall, the Sami ran great. The steering feels good at 55mph, brakes are good, etc, etc.

I think this is required on this forum.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-13_15-50-45_304.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-13_15-50-58_465.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-13_15-54-51_270.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-13_15-55-08_553.jpg

Taking the little snail to our cabin for a week at the end of September for more testing. I'll finish the interior and pop up this winter.

Backroad Explorer
09-14-2011, 01:28 AM
:Wow1: nice job trackhead. Have fun at the cabin!

trackhead
09-15-2011, 11:53 PM
Took the little snail out on the interstate today. No wind, elevation 4,800ft, no problems holding 60mph. Probably could go 65mph as long as the winds don't face the wrong direction.

So loaded down, I expect 55mph won't be out of the question.

trackhead
09-22-2011, 12:58 AM
Took the Snail out for a test run on the east side of the Wasatch.

Throwin' down a mean 35-40mph average up Big Cottonwood.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0520.jpg

Quick stop at Guardsman's to see if anything rattled off yet.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-21_14-56-59_623.jpg

Pulled The Snail off the main drag for a little stroll through the woods and fields.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0524.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0523.jpg

OMG, it's another Samurai rolling over!
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0522.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0530.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0528.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0527.jpg

He was driving most of the day.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0526.jpg

Little D-bagger wanted to drive up on a rock, because he said that's what people do here.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-21_12-59-53_198.jpg

Drank some milk, turned around and went home.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/DSCF0529.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-20_21-01-13_199.jpg

Everything seemed to stay where it belonged. Each day will build confidence that it isn't going to self destruct. Bear Lake is next week.

Backroad Explorer
09-22-2011, 05:14 AM
Looks Good in the Woods :victory: !! How's the off-camber feel?

Overland Hadley
09-22-2011, 11:21 AM
Looks Good in the Woods

x2

trackhead
09-22-2011, 11:37 AM
Looks Good in the Woods :victory: !! How's the off-camber feel?

Fine. The only weight above the height of a stock Samurai is about 8", and that's all foam and glass. The roof weighs maybe 40-50lbs, so it's not too top heavy. That said, I am a moto guy, I've never been into the off road via 4 wheels, so it's all new to me. The only 4x4 stuff I've done is endless days with chains on all 4 wheels on the old Toyota, driving up Hyalite Canyon trying to get to ice climbs.

It definitely either needs airbags or add-a-leafs on the rear, to even it out.

Riptide
09-23-2011, 12:18 AM
How were the coolant temps with the spare tire in front?

Overland Hadley
09-23-2011, 02:00 AM
driving up Hyalite Canyon.....

Oh, Hyalite. I miss that place.

trackhead
09-23-2011, 11:42 AM
How were the coolant temps with the spare tire in front?

No change from stock.

trackhead
09-27-2011, 09:13 PM
2,430lbs with 1/2 tank of gas, tools, spare, and my 4 month old up front. That includes the silly 4x4x1/4" heavy bumpers I welded on, which weigh quite a bit and are total over kill. Additional weight will be 118lb wife, clothes, 80 pounds of water, food.

Stock Samurai hard top is 2130lbs. (http://streetspecs.com/specifications-for/1988-suzuki-samurai-jx-deluxe-4wd-hardtop) So this camper weighs about 300lbs over stock. Hell, some of the folks I see wheelin' these things weigh 300lbs.;)

Went 62-65mph pretty easily for long stretches down the freeway today. Rolling terrain, no wind.

Should right around 3,000lb GVW suggested by Suzuki when I'm ready to go.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-27_13-46-57_659.jpg

Backroad Explorer
09-28-2011, 12:32 AM
Excellent work trackhead! Makes me wanna get a soft top. Spring time Interior Pics? Let us know how winter goes.

trackhead
09-28-2011, 03:51 AM
Spring time Interior Pics? Let us know how winter goes.

Hopefully in December. Need to take a break on spending money for a month or two. The only thing left is finish the pop top, sew up the fabric pop top walls, wire the solar.

trackhead
09-29-2011, 12:06 AM
With the bit of sag I had before this thing is loaded down, I decided to add some air bags. A little welding and some drilling and they popped right in. Pretty cool gizmos. The specs for the air bags are 10-100psi, they are at 40psi to level the rig now, so they should work pretty well when it has about 400 more pounds on it. It will be nice to be able to change the air pressure as we run out of water, or whatever the case may be.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/092811172212.jpg

Bergum
09-29-2011, 07:13 AM
How is it handeling in an emergency S turn?
Will it tilt?

Called a Moose manuver here in Norway, widely done on the road :-)

trackhead
09-29-2011, 11:11 AM
How is it handeling in an emergency S turn?
Will it tilt?

Called a Moose manuver here in Norway, widely done on the road :-)

Handles fine. Better than before.

rdraider
09-30-2011, 11:51 PM
I've been secretly watching this for a while, or rather had been. Then forgot about when i got started with mine. Just came back across it today, congrats on a good looking build!

trackhead
10-01-2011, 01:54 AM
Took interstate for 100 miles, them over two passes passes to our cabin. Averaged 60-62mph on the interstate. Took the wife/kid out today on the rocks and dirt to a nice spot in the mountains. samurai seems to do quite well.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-09-29_18-48-46_32.jpg

IdaSHO
10-01-2011, 04:00 AM
Awesome job!

:ylsmoke:

Ford Prefect
10-01-2011, 01:32 PM
I sure hope you are planning to bring this down to the Overland Expo next year! I really want to see the finished product in person! (If I may be so bold)

It is looking really good, and I like the airbag idea as well. You said the bags are set for 10-100psi, but that you only have 4 psi in them now. Not having any experience with those at all, how much presure are you going to need with that added approximately 400lbs worth of gear and family? The reason I ask is if the bags only need to go up to, say, 50psi at your most, would there have been a way to build so as to increase the PSI requirements the way it sits now, thereby making better use of the bag system? (Again total novice on the bags, so trying to learn, please forgive me if this is a totally stupid question.)

Cheers,

trackhead
10-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Typo....40psi. I ran 30psi yesterday with good results in the rocks. Good for a Samurai that is.

No Overland Expo for me. Any free time I have is either spent in the woods in northern Utah, or the desert.

trackhead
10-01-2011, 06:46 PM
Up at Bear Lake for six days. Screwing around with the Samurai. Seems to be holding up well and should go just about anywhere I want. Maybe next year I can get a rear locker.
..
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-01_11-18-15_711.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-01_11-22-51_598.jpg

Small campers squeeze in tight spots.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-01_12-05-09_442.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-01_11-24-09_712.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-01_11-58-16_455.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-01_11-38-35_931.jpg

matthewp
10-02-2011, 10:58 PM
Wow! So awesome! I've been watching the build and it turned out really well. I can't wait to see the interior finished.

trackhead
10-03-2011, 12:46 AM
Did a fun loop on the east side of the lake today.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_16-31-48_911.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_11-45-02_21.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_15-24-04_954.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_14-56-07_402.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_14-23-38_23.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_13-56-04_817.jpg

Took a break to stretch the legs.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_13-04-43_78.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_13-08-34_875.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-02_14-05-11_914.jpg

Can't wait to finish the pop top snd sctually use this goofy thing on a trip. Testing it out up here has been great.

Backroad Explorer
10-03-2011, 06:31 PM
Outstanding trackhead :exclaim:

fjatheart
10-04-2011, 01:48 AM
Really nice work! Looks like fun with the family, that's what it's all about!

trackhead
10-28-2011, 03:38 AM
Winters coming, so..............picked up some Tatou tracks today.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-27_21-10-05_555.jpg

Backroad Explorer
10-28-2011, 04:09 AM
ooohhh Tatou's I'm sooo jealous!!! Winter Pic's Please :Wow1:

trackhead
10-28-2011, 04:25 AM
ooohhh Tatou's I'm sooo jealous!!! Winter Pic's Please :Wow1:

Will do. Need to figure out the mounting first. Then decide about locking the diff's or not, or if I can afford to (Lockrite, ARB, etc). Money is tight these days.

Philp100
10-28-2011, 06:17 PM
Do the tatou's have more surface area than the Mattracks? I have a friend with the mattracks on his Suzuki and they will get you quite stuck in deep powder!http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/philp100/Tracks/tracks005.jpg

trackhead
10-28-2011, 06:38 PM
Do the tatou's have more surface area than the Mattracks? I have a friend with the mattracks on his Suzuki and they will get you quite stuck in deep powder!

They have 2400 square inches. My Samurai weighs 2480lbs with me in it. So about 1 pound per square inch. Other's have used the Tatou's on the Samurai for many things like grooming ski trails etc, and they do pretty well on established snowmobile trails.

My intent with them is to not plow through deep mountain snow, rather to be-bop down a snowmobile packed road with wife/kid for ski hut trips, etc.

Philp100
10-28-2011, 09:20 PM
Should work well for that, Trackhead, I would love to see these in a side by side comparison. I was a lot less impressed with the mattracks than I thought I would be. They really eat up a lot of power.

trackhead
10-29-2011, 12:01 AM
Should work well for that, Trackhead, I would love to see these in a side by side comparison. I was a lot less impressed with the mattracks than I thought I would be. They really eat up a lot of power.

Google Samurai Tatou Tracks. There's a guy with a few good videos of his rig performing reasonably well.

I owned a small Bombardier snowcat in the past, and I can tell you based on my experience, and watching this guys Samurai Tatou vids, that the Tatou's are pretty capable considering it's not an official snowcat.

trackhead
10-29-2011, 02:09 PM
I'm getting lug adapters next week, then a locking rear differential. Should be up and running by early December.

Here's a pic of the rear track mount next to the vehicle. Pretty significant surface area that should be plenty for cruising down snomo trails.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-10-29_06-29-59_180.jpg

Ford Prefect
10-31-2011, 07:02 PM
I wonder about the power loss that this will cause, and also the loss of turning radius...

Any comments on both would be appreciated once you have had time to play with them.

Did you get the all seasons, or the winter? Also do you plan to drive this to the trails on the tracks, trailer the sami there or trailer the tracks there and change them at the trail head?

Cheers

trackhead
10-31-2011, 10:01 PM
I wonder about the power loss that this will cause, and also the loss of turning radius...

Any comments on both would be appreciated once you have had time to play with them.

Did you get the all seasons, or the winter? Also do you plan to drive this to the trails on the tracks, trailer the sami there or trailer the tracks there and change them at the trail head?

Cheers

Power Loss: There is effectively about a 50% gear reduction because the drive sprocket is half the size of my 31" tires. There have been many Samurai's with these things that do pretty well. My old snowcat had a 100 cubic inch motor with full length 24" tracks and it basically did fine.

Turning Radius: Obviously it will be harder to turn because of the tracks, but most snomo trails don't exactly have sharp radius turns.

Driving to trailhead?: I don't have anything to tow it with, so if it's just the wife and I, I will drive it I guess. But more likely, I will put it on a trailer and have a friend tow it for ski trips. Ultimately though, it's mostly going to be used for grooming nordic ski trails at a regional park, and I will just leave it there all winter.

trackhead
11-02-2011, 02:21 AM
Took all day to fabricate, drill, cut, and tap these buggers to get them to fit the 5 x 5.5 lug pattern. Got both rear tracks installed today. Now the crux, the front tracks to clear the manual hubs.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-01_12-38-00_431.jpg

Ford Prefect
11-02-2011, 05:13 AM
Yep, the neighbors are going to think you finally went around the bend.

In other words it looks awesome!

Thanks for the answers to my questions, very nice indeed.

trackhead
11-02-2011, 12:31 PM
Yep, the neighbors are going to think you finally went around the bend.

In other words it looks awesome!

Thanks for the answers to my questions, very nice indeed.

I've "talked" with everyone I can find on the internet that has a similar set up on the Samurai. Most lock the rear diff, nobody has had axle or wheel bearing issues, many have the 1.6 liter.

I've seen videos of people with open diffs that do surprisingly well in 1-2 feet of snow on mostly level, or mellow inclines.

I will probably just lock the rear and leave the front open until I somehow find a bag of cash laying around to pay for everything.

trackhead
11-02-2011, 08:54 PM
Found some 1999 Vitara hubs at a pick and pull. You need these low profile hubs to keep the axle/hub locked all the time, and also the lower profile so you can fit the track over the hub. Learned this from a guy on BBS Zuwharrie.


The donor.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-02_12-32-31_590.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-02_12-32-24_555.jpg

Comparison.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-02_13-34-22_937.jpg

Perfect size reduction to fit inside the 2" spacers.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-02_13-34-58_975.jpg

trackhead
11-03-2011, 12:05 AM
Got three of four on. Maybe I'll get the last one on tomorrow.

Front view, showing the how the Tatou's are just a bit taller than a 31" tire.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-02_17-35-58_333.jpg

I hope it fits out of the garage;)
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-02_17-36-33_526.jpg

trackhead
11-03-2011, 05:07 PM
All four tracks are one. Still have to fab some anti-rotation brackets and a little track tuning, other than that, I think it's ready.

Guess the spare tire is of no use.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-03_10-30-18_617.jpg

I might put that tent trailer on skis and tow it in for a portable ski hut.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-03_10-30-29_796.jpg

My neighbors wonder about me, and my mental health.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-03_10-30-48_295.jpg

Can't exactly "burn rubber", but 10-20mph should be easy enough on packed trails.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-03_10-31-07_525.jpg

Bergum
11-04-2011, 09:07 AM
You don't have to remove the spare, just add 3 more.... :elkgrin:

trackhead
11-05-2011, 02:23 PM
Turns really easy in the snow. No need for 4-Low with the gear reduction from the tracks. 4 Low in 1st gear is about 2mph at 3,000rpm.
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-05_08-01-31_686.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-05_08-01-49_593.jpg

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-05_08-02-15_652.jpg

airmanwilliams
11-05-2011, 03:36 PM
looks great. great timing last night on snowing just when you got done with your tracks so you could test it out. going to be selling those manual locking hubs of yours? Thinking of taking my auto hubs off my sidekick and adding manual hubs.

trackhead
11-05-2011, 03:50 PM
looks great. great timing last night on snowing just when you got done with your tracks so you could test it out. going to be selling those manual locking hubs of yours? Thinking of taking my auto hubs off my sidekick and adding manual hubs.

I think I might keep them for summer. Doesn't unlocking them make for better mpg?

airmanwilliams
11-05-2011, 04:00 PM
well im getting around 25mpg right now with my 31" tires but from reading about the reliability of the auto locking hubs and the manual locking hubs im thinking a swap would be in order for me. Im not sure on the mpg loss but I will ask around on that as I dont want to really lose too much right now when im trying to sell this on ksl.

One thing I have been meaning to ask. How are your springs holding up on this? Another guy in sandy is thinking of doing something like this on his old tintop and was worried of some sagging.

trackhead
11-05-2011, 04:38 PM
One thing I have been meaning to ask. How are your springs holding up on this? Another guy in sandy is thinking of doing something like this on his old tintop and was worried of some sagging.

I have 3" lift trail gear springs. My vehicle weighs 2480lbs with half tank of gas. I had some rear sag, so I put in some Airlift air bags and now it's perfect. Airbags are nice for variable loads in the camper.

bobDog
11-05-2011, 07:54 PM
Thanks for reminding me how much I like winter in Oregon....God I hate snow......but you truck looks really cool...enjoying seeing it from afar w/o the cold.:coffeedrink:

Ford Prefect
11-06-2011, 01:10 AM
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/2011-11-05_08-01-49_593.jpg


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

What a rip off! We did not get a spec of snow! All we got was some stinking rain! Like Oregon or something! ( ;) )

Seriously though, why are you getting snow and I am not, I am really annoyed at our lack of snow in Happy Valley!

Truck looks super! Glad to see you got to go and play a touch with it, did you take it out on the roads and such? Perhaps down to the smiths? That would be fun!

bobDog
11-06-2011, 01:40 AM
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

What a rip off! We did not get a spec of snow! All we got was some stinking rain! Like Oregon or something! ( ;) )

Seriously though, why are you getting snow and I am not, I am really annoyed at our lack of snow in Happy Valley!

Truck looks super! Glad to see you got to go and play a touch with it, did you take it out on the roads and such? Perhaps down to the smiths? That would be fun!Like Oregon.......That's cute....I love it when someone actually gets the fun in a comment......Dude can I be your friend?
:coffeedrink:

trackhead
11-06-2011, 02:07 AM
Truck looks super! Glad to see you got to go and play a touch with it, did you take it out on the roads and such? Perhaps down to the smiths? That would be fun!

Nope, don't need another ticket on my record.

Spent the morning working on the front anti-rotation bracket. They don't have anything available from Camoplast, so you have to pretty much pull something out of your ***. The front is harder, because of the steering, so you have to make something that will accommodate the stress without destroying the knuckle. Hopefully my ghetto design will work.

I think as far as transporting this rig goes.....I'm just going to take the track set up off, throw the tracks on my mini trailer, drive to my destination, then put the tracks back on. It's just like changing tires, more or less. Plus, I like the idea of not trailering.

Going to try to finish the pop-top by December 1st, that's the goal.

Have a hut trip planned in March, and maybe a couple other over-night trips. That's probably all I'll use it, as like everyone else in the world, time is limited with kids, work, etc.

Ford Prefect
11-06-2011, 05:13 PM
Wow, so you recon you would get a fine for driving on the road? I had no idea that it would be illegal, well I guess that shows what I know about those things...


Bobdog, Sure thing pal... :D

Gypsy
01-13-2012, 01:32 AM
Yep, been there done that too.

Made an 88 Suzuki Samurai into a Suzuki Samurai Camper trailer.

Sleeps two adults to seven feet tall.
8" head room storage area
propane tank replaced gas tank for heater, cooking, lights etc.
portable toilet and sink
with storage under the bed in the front and back wells

Searched online at the time and everywhere I could I was the first ever to have a Suzuki Samurai Camper. Even with solar panel....

Since I see no where to attach pictures on here and new at this form, if you want to see pics visit the best club in the world!

Samurai4x4Club.org

trackhead
02-24-2012, 11:55 AM
Got bored over the winter and rebuilt the "camper" crazy light. I haven't weighed it yet, but I think the total vehicle weight is under 2,000lbs on tires, or right around 2,000lbs with tracks. The camper enclosure isn't done yet, but I had to get it enclosed for some upcoming ski trips. This summer I'll finish the pop top. Idea behind this enclosure is removable camper items like cupboards/shelves/beds, and all that heavy crap. Leave it as an empty box for ski trips for the best over snow flotation. I also made it wider and removed the stock doors so I can get my kid in and out of the back easier. I haven't made hard sided doors yet, but that will come. The heater keeps this thing super warm in mountain temps, totally pleased with that.

Still needs:
-Finish outside surfaces
-Build light weight, insulated doors that don't rattle like stock Sami doors
-Rear locker, probably mini-spool because this is a snow vehicle first, dirt vehicle second
-Finish interior covering of foam panels
-Finish pop top

More pics and vids here
http://www.fritzrips.com/2012/02/24/samurai-ski-day/
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy236/trackheadmoto/Samurai%20Ski%20Day/DSCF1121.jpg?t=1330049252

Bergum
02-24-2012, 08:24 PM
Love those tracks. What are they? Links? Buildtread?

B4x4.no

trackhead
02-24-2012, 08:37 PM
^^^^^^^older version of Tatou UTV snow only tracks.

Google Camoplast Tatou 4s

thecarman
02-26-2012, 10:00 AM
-Rear locker, probably mini-spool because this is a snow vehicle first, dirt vehicle second

I put a mini-spool in my Samurai about 3 years ago, and have never had a problem with it. Mine is not street-driven much, but I do drive it on the street, and don't notice the spool back there at all. I like that compared to the lock/un-lock of a rear locker in a short-wheelbase, lightweight vehicle.

I originally planned to weld the rear, but couldn't figure out a way to do it (that I felt comfortable with) once I pulled the diff apart, since the spiders are enclosed in the carrier. I know people have done it in Zuk diffs, but none of the ways appealed to me. I think the mini-spool I got was like $120 shipped? Can't remember what brand. Was from one of the major Zuk modification manufacturers.

SoCal_80
02-28-2012, 03:37 AM
One word.....sweet!
Well done

deepmud
03-07-2012, 03:27 AM
Since I see no where to attach pictures on here and new at this form, if you want to see pics visit the best club in the world!

Samurai4x4Club.org

You host them somewhere else like photobucket . Can't view your club's pics, it's members only.

deepmud
03-07-2012, 05:34 AM
Trackhead - I re-read the whole thread today. Why did you toss the camper you put so much time in? Just too heavy for tracks?

Alpentalic
03-07-2012, 04:51 PM
Deepmud, reading between the lines here and another forum that Trackhead participates in...
I believe his use requirements shifted towards something that would accommodate more snow and the ability to do more of a "base camp" situation with the family.