Our GXV Build

[Blackeye]

We’ve pulled the trigger on our new rig but before I get to the “what”, I thought I’d elaborate a little on the “why”.

Over the years, we have been fortunate to have owned a variety of on / off-road vehicles, such as a sweet D-90, a couple of Range Rovers, a couple of Hummers, a couple of Jeep Grand Cherokees, an FJ Cruiser, etc. Over the years, we have rented and borrowed several Class A motor homes. A couple of years ago, while borrowing my brother’s 40’ diesel pusher for a road trip through the southwest, we decided that we wanted something that we could travel for extended amounts of time and travel to just about any destination on or off the tarmac. While rolling in the motor homes, we found ourselves always wanting to venture where the traditional motor home with severely restricted ground clearance, extensive overhangs and limited turning radius could not go. We wanted a small self-contained adventure vehicle in which we could “live” inside.

As many of you know, in 2008, we purchased a 2008 Sportsmobile 4x4 Ford E350 van.

It revolutionized our overlanding experience. It took us to so many great places over the two years that we owned it. In fact, during those two years, we were blessed to have logged close to 75,000 miles and spent well over 200 nights in it. Because of the way that the Sportsmobile met our needs, we seriously considered another Sportsmobile, probably an exact replica of what we had. However, with the high number of miles that we logged over the past two years, and with the strong desire to do the same if not more in the future, we started looking for a heavy-duty chassis that will theoretically last 1,000,000 miles or so. I guess one could make a Sportsmobile or a Ford F-550 go 500,000 miles, but I am not that person.

We have enjoyed our travels through the western states and I was able to enjoy a quick trip into Baja with the Overland Training Alumni. For now and the foreseeable future, our sights are set on travelling within the North American continent. Specifically, we are looking forward to exploring British Columbia, the Yukon, Alaska, Canada, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, the east coast of the US, not to mention continuing to explore and enjoy the incredible western states.

We have labored over this decision. It has not come without many hours of research, discussion and thought. I would like to thank so many here on Expedition Portal for all of their contributions and would like to extend a very warm thank you to Jay, Chip, Doug and kudos to Stephen Stewart who assembled “Choosing an Overland Campervan” http://www.xor.org.uk/silkroute/equipment/choosevan.htm. This is an incredible resource for anyone asking some of the same questions that we have asked.

My research indicated that there aren’t too many options when it comes to heavy duty chassis that are available here in the states that incorporate 26,000 + GVWR, factory 4 wheel drive and factory single rear wheels. I took an interest in the Mercedes Unimog U500 and the International 7500 WorkStar series truck.

When it comes to the Unimog, I have to admit that when I saw the Global Expedition Vehicles (GXV) Unimog U500 with their integrated camper at the first Overland Expo 2009 I refused to even get near it as I knew it would be just too tempting.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Misc-Adventure-Shots/GXV-OVExpo-09/1170326758_u6NX6-M.jpg

(I’m sure that you have seen them advertised over the years just inside the cover of Overland Journal.) Then GXV had another U500 unit in a similar configuration at the Overland Expo 2010.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Misc-Adventure-Shots/GXV-91-at-Expo/1170330024_UAf3E-M.jpg

This time, I was brave enough to wander over and have a closer look. I was impressed, to say the very least. So impressed that when my wife said that she wanted to see the second largest cross in the western hemisphere (19 stories tall) in Groom, Texas someday, I told her let’s do it and that from there we could just run on over to GXV in Nixa, Missouri. I know, you’re thinking that is pushing it, but I knew of no other way to find out about the Unimog and Global Expedition Vehicles.

We made the trip and really enjoyed our time at GXV. Mike and Rene’ opened up the place to us and Mike took us out in their Freightliner “Patagonia” rig and in the Unimog “Expedition” rig. We were really impressed with both rigs. The fit and finish was incredible. The interior of the cabin (living area) spaces were amazing. Our schedule left us a little pressed for time, but we were impressed by what we saw and felt quite welcome by everyone at GXV.

Since I was most interested in the Unimog (even though my wife said that it looked like a garbage truck), I wanted to drive it and experience it from the cockpit. I flew out to Springfield, MO and met up with Mike to drive the Unimog. My impression is that the U500 is “off the charts” when it comes to its off-road prowess with some compromise when it comes to the highway. I came away thankful for the experience, but knowing that I was interested in a little more highway comfort and more top-end power. I was willing to sacrifice some of the über off-road capability.

When it comes to the choice of an overland vehicle, we each need to decide what is right for us. We have to evaluate our needs and our wants. Where and how we travel is a significant part of that evaluation. I have determined that this decision involves some compromises. While we love to get away from it all, travel deep into the back country and spend time away from civilization, we also do not want to suffer significantly while getting there. Many of our travels, just to get to the place where we leave the tarmac, include up to 1,000 miles or more of highway driving each way.

We decided to purchase a new chassis, knowing full well that the cost will be more and the chassis incorporate extensive electronics, etc. We also know that any “new” U.S. legal chassis will require the use of Ultra-Low Sulphur diesel (ULSD). Since our targeted travels will be in areas that ULSD should be available, that is not an issue. Another benefit to purchasing a new chassis is the availability of extended warranties. Again, another additional cost, but this investment is acceptable because I don’t have the expertise, nor do I want to make the investment in time to upgrade and wrench an older chassis.

In terms of the cabin (living area), we considered the Earthroamer XV-LT, the offerings from Unicat and Global Expedition Vehicles (GXV). The Earthroamer XV-LT is currently only offered on the Ford F550 chassis. As mentioned before, that chassis is not of interest to us. We visited Avi Meyers who represents Unicat here in the states. We toured two of the Unicat Americas rigs. They were very nice but extremely expensive. When comparing between the Unicat and GXV offerings, I was surprised to see that the components are very similar. It turns out that a comparably equipped Unicat is almost twice the cost of the GXV. I also like the fact that the GXV is assembled in the United States.

We are excited to say that we have ordered a 2011 International 7500 WorkStar SFA 4x4 truck chassis and we have commissioned Global Expedition Vehicles to assemble and mount GXV "Expedition" body onto the truck chassis.

I have included some sketches that are pretty rough but might help to provide an indication of what we are working toward.

CHASSIS:
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/International-7500-SFA-Sketch/1170314633_gMz6K-XL.jpg
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/International-7500-SFA-Sketch/1170354740_CatjT-XL.jpg
INTERNATIONAL 7500 SFA 4X4
Extended cab
Wheelbase: 215”
Cab to axle: 114”
GVWR: 33,000 lbs
Estimated Chassis weight: 14,333 lbs
Engine: MaxxForce 10, 310 HP, 1050 lb-ft Torque
Transmission (Automatic) - Allison 3000 (Rugged Duty) 5-Speed, Overdrive, On/Off Highway
Front axle: Meritor MX-12-120, Single Reduction, 12,000 lb Capacity
Rear axle: Single Meritor MS-21-14X-6DCR, Single Reduction, Wide Track, 21,000 lb Capacity
Driver Controlled Locking Differential
Gear Ratio: 4.88
Tires: Goodyear G178 in 425/65R/22.5, load range L, 20 ply

Even with fuel, water, food and gear, we should end up weighing well below the GVWR. We have specified rugged duty service and off-highway components when possible.

CABIN:

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-Interior-above-driver-side/1170314552_gvpow-XL.jpg
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-Interior-above-passenger/1170314594_rYx3J-XL.jpg
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-Bike-Tire-Rack-Idea/1170314518_gfzXc-XL.jpg
GLOBAL EXPEDITION VEHICLES "Expedition"

The GXV cabin is made up of 2.36" structural composite panels of FRP clad polyurethane foam insulation (R20).

The following are the cabin dimensions:
Cabin Length: 15' 10" (190") exterior / 15' 6" (186") interior front-to -rear
Cabin Width: 96" exterior / 91" interior sidewall-to-sidewall
Cabin Height: 7' 4" (88") exterior / 6' 6" (78") interior floor-to-ceiling

OVERALL:
Overall Length: 27’ 5” (329”)
Overall Width: 8’ (96”)
Overall Height: 11’ 4” (136”)

We anticipate that the truck will be built in late March / early April. We hope that the assembly and integration of the cabin will occur shortly thereafter.

I would like to, once again, extend my thanks to the Expedition Portal and the many who contribute so much information. I’ll update with more details, photos and information as we proceed ahead.

The waiting is the hardest part!

[Christian P.]

Thank you so much for sharing all this with us! We will be excited to see it too!

[Scott Brady]

Congrats Andy! Can't wait to see it.

[ersatzknarf]

It should be well worth the wait !

Congratulations ! ! ! :wings:


The waiting is the hardest part!

[Brian McVickers]

This is great Andy!
Looking forward to the build.

Brian

[mhiscox]

Thanks very much for taking the time to share all these great details. The rig looks fantastic.

[dzzz]

very exciting

[howell_jd]

I drove (and rode in) the International version MRAP powered by a MaxxPro engine in Mosul with my combat advisor team. Very nice rig. The MaxxForce.com website has some helpful driving and maintenance tips too.

https://evalue.internationaldelivers.com/service/bodybuilder/general/sales%20training/default.asp

My team's MRAP didn't have any emissions controls so there were a few issues that were avoided to be sure. We did experience a few electronic issues but that was expected with a "new" combat vehicle.

Congratulations!

Jonathan

[dzzz]

You say it's a five speed. But it has a low range too?

[Bill Beers]

I'll bet the transfer case has a low range in it.

[charlieaarons]

You might be interested to know that your 5 spd has a 4th gear of 1.00 and a 5th gear of 0.75. there is also a 6th gear of 0.65 which is only locked out electronically. You could "unlock" it and have a taller overdrive, and, if there is time, change your axle gearing spec to 5.13 or even shorter, like 5.38 or 5.57 or even 5.71 which will give more get up and go (not that you really need that with 1050 ft-lb) but more important a slower creep speed in 1st gear low range.
The reason the 6th gear is locked out is because of low tire speed ratings.

Charlie

[Blackeye]

Thanks to all for your kind words and support. This is a big step for us and posting it up is a little intimidating. I am so thankful for the wisdom here on the Portal. I welcome questions and comments and I will endeavor to post up as we get any new info and or photos.

Jonathan, that link will be helpful and I have looked into what Navistar (International) has been up to in terms of building platforms to protect our brave men and women. They have been producing some great looking rigs for our military, I just hope that they serve our folks over there as well as they look.

Charlie, I am always in awe with your posts and the wisdom that you share. It is a little late to change the gearing ratio now. I went on the recommendation of my representative at International. He used a computer program, checked with his engineers and used his 20 some years of driving rigs to come up with the spec'd ratio. We are hoping for a balance between being able to creep / crawl off road and pull 65 - 70 mph on the tarmac. We'll see?

Thanks again to all.

[Overland Hadley]

I am so excited for you guys!

[daniel ruops]

Andy Blackeye

We are looking forward to your visit!!

[Blackeye]

It has been very difficult to find an International 7500 SFA 4x4 chassis to look at. Most of the ones that I have seen are government / military. While on a trip to Montana this past August, I saw what looked like one parked at an International Truck dealer in Idaho. Here are a couple of shots of it. It is a similar chassis (ignore the vertical exhaust, the dump truck bed and the tires) taken next to our Sportsmobile.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/Transfer-Pictures-109/1142843345_3RRvK-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/Transfer-Pictures-113/1142843966_gJv5a-XL.jpg

This shot shows a pretty complex grill guard. I am interested in something to protect the essentials from errant deer, etc. I'm not sure if this design is what we want. We anticipate having some driving lights mounted on the bumper and so the tilt-forward guard will have to take them into account. We could mount the driving lights directly to the guard so that they tilt out with the guard. Any ideas?

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/Transfer-Pictures-112/1142844673_tRYJW-XL.jpg

[Blackeye]

You could "unlock" it and have a taller overdrive...
Charlie

Charlie,

Thanks for the heads up on the gearing. Are you still "down under"? I hope things are well with you.

Do you know if 6th gear can be unlocked after we take delivery?

Thanks, in advance.

[alaskaboy]

Congratulations on pulling the trigger! We made a similar decision to commission a GXV last year after a very long evaluation of needs/cost/time and neccessary trade offs. It appears we will have sibling vehicles, although we have the crew cab. Ours will be ready this spring. I am heartened in the positive responses posted thus far as I have witnessed criticisms from some members whose own priorities differ. Not everyone can expand their perspective to accomodate the values of others.

Just wondering if you really need a brush guard for errant deer as the bumper is going to positioned higher than your average animal, especially if you upgrade to some 445 tires. Moose, being the largest and not neccessarily the brightest of the deer family, might indeed take out your grill. In fact, I have seen several fatalities here in AK from exactly that. In any event, from what I hear about stock lighting on commercial trucks, you will need a place to plant the HIDs.:coffeedrink:

mark

[dzzz]

Anyone who avoids the claim of buying an large expedition vehicle for the good of humanity seems safe around here. High profile environmentalists with multi-hundred gallon diesel tanks seem to get a mixed response. Go figure.

Anyway, Andy's truck looks like it will be great. I think the floor plan allowing easy movement between cab and camper (like SMB) is interesting.

[charlieaarons]

Yes, 6th gear can be unlocked by anyone with the proper computer hookup to the drivetrain. But remember that most 425 and 445/65R22.5 tires have a speed rating of either 60 or 65mph. You may be within 10-15% of max load in the rear. Under those conditions I'd recommend inflating to the max pressure and not going much over 65 for sustained periods.
I personally am uncomfortable in a big truck, particularly with my 395/85R20 XZLs, at over 60mph.
We will be back travelling in Oz 2/20-4/15. Probably head for the Red Centre to avoid the rain/flooding.
One tire/wheel "issue" with the Intl's is spacers vs. wheel offset vs. track width F/R.

Charlie

[cmgraves]

I appluad your determination and focus for the overland travel, and what this "little" addition can create for the two of you! You will surely enjoy ever minute.

Had some questions, or just some thoughts.
You mention that you are looking at a vechile that can last 500,000 to 1,000,000. Is this a fair statement for the international truck, and going off highway driving?

Going from the sportsmobile and to the GVX is quite a leap in terms of size and limits and well almost everything. What were some the main factors for for such a great change?

and trying not to go off topic with your new one on the way:
With having logged so many miles and nights in the Sportsmobile, what do you consider its weakness and/or items that came to life during the experience.

Again, congrats with the new camper on its way!! it is a beauty!!

[Blackeye]

Yes, 6th gear can be unlocked by anyone with the proper computer hookup to the drivetrain. But remember that most 425 and 445/65R22.5 tires have a speed rating of either 60 or 65mph. You may be within 10-15% of max load in the rear. Under those conditions I'd recommend inflating to the max pressure and not going much over 65 for sustained periods.
I personally am uncomfortable in a big truck, particularly with my 395/85R20 XZLs, at over 60mph.
We will be back travelling in Oz 2/20-4/15. Probably head for the Red Centre to avoid the rain/flooding.
One tire/wheel "issue" with the Intl's is spacers vs. wheel offset vs. track width F/R.

Charlie

We'll look at the need to unlock 6th gear after we complete the build and have a chance to road test on the highway. Thanks for the idea.

Our tires, GOODYEAR G178 - 425/65R22.5 have a speed rating of 68mph. That is plenty fast for us. I don't expect we'll run more than 65 very often. I am reviewing the manufacturer's Load Adjustments for Speed worksheets and data. It looks like you've spent some time studying this kind of data.

FYI, the following represents our current GVW calculations:

14,333 Truck Chassis
5,500 GXV Cabin
1,200 Water
1,200 Fuel
2,000 Gear
24,233 Total Est. GVW (73% of GVWR)

Any comments?

Regarding the width of the rear axle, we spent quite a bit of time working with the engineering department at International to develop the spec'd rear axle. It is a single axle MERITOR MS-21-14X-6DCR Single Reduction, Wide Track, 21,000-lb capacity "wide-track" axle. They have assured me that it will have the identical track as the front axle.

I hope that you have a great adventure down under. Ron (GXVMogHvn) has just returned and it sounds like he had an incredible time.

Thank you, again, for sharing your wisdom with a novice like me. I am in your debt!

[HMR]

Thanks for taking the time to share your build and some of your travel philosophy. It was a pleasure meeting you at Hollister last year. After seeing your amazing SMB, it was obvious that you and your wife know exactly what you want/need in a vehicle. Very inspiring!

This is gonna be a great thread!

[Blackeye]

Thank you for your kind words and support.


Had some questions, or just some thoughts.
You mention that you are looking at a vechile that can last 500,000 to 1,000,000. Is this a fair statement for the international truck, and going off highway driving?

I believe that it is. Check with me in a couple of years.


Going from the sportsmobile and to the GVX is quite a leap in terms of size and limits and well almost everything. What were some the main factors for for such a great change?

I hopefully addressed this earlier in the post. (longevity)


and trying not to go off topic with your new one on the way:
With having logged so many miles and nights in the Sportsmobile, what do you consider its weakness and/or items that came to life during the experience.

In all honesty, we did not find weaknesses or shortcomings with the SMB. It happily performed everything we asked of it and more.

[cellularsteve2]

Andy,
Looking forward to following your build.
I have a SMB and often think what the next step is as my family grows, and the SMB gets smaller.

steve

[Blackeye]

Andy,
Looking forward to following your build.
steve

Steve,

Great to hear from you.

I am planning a trip to GXV in a couple of weeks. My plan is to cover, in detail, the various aspects of the cabin build. The panels should be assembled by then and I hope to obtain (and post) some "in process" photos.

I am excited about some of the other projects that GXV in doing right now. (Not as excited as I am about ours though.:wings:)

The GXV Pangea with the lifting roof would be a great fit for you. http://globalxvehicles.com/gxv-pangea/ I recently saw a used 2009 International SFA 4x4 chassis for sale in Texas. It is a crew cab too.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/Arc-Angel-Truck/1175760705_ZtUBF-XL.jpg

Just trying to help you out.

[Doin_It]

At $99,000.oo with only 20,000 miles its a good deal. You'd should get a very good $$ for the deck/crane, to bring the price down some more.

[EMrider]

Andy,
Looking forward to following your build.
I have a SMB and often think what the next step is as my family grows, and the SMB gets smaller.

steve

Same situation here. Love the SMB and it is ideal for family road trips and camping with 2. But with a family of 5 and growing kids, the comfort when camping is diminished. The GXV platform(s) looks very appealing.
Thanks
R

[Blackeye]

Here are some sketches depicting the layout of our GXV cabin. These images are a pretty good representation of the layout. Some tweaks are in process as to the actual cabinetry layout and the location of heaters, etc. But this is pretty close.
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-2-1-11/1181618515_jCtL3-XL.jpg
I have been impressed with how GXV works through the myriad of details and have been enjoying the design-build process. We feel like we are dogs on a short chain though...we can't wait to get back "out there" exploring and adventuring.

[Trail Monkey]

A. Very excited to see this coming together for you. Looks like you made a first class choice.

[GlobalMonkey]

Any updates on your GXV Andy?

Tomas

[DKB2GO]

This looks like an exciting build. Eager like everyone else to hear about the progress.

[Blackeye]

Quick update on our build...

Still waiting on a confirmed build date for our truck chassis. It was supposed to be assembled around March 15, 2011, but since our truck as configured is considered "severe duty" it is assembled in the same facility as the military trucks. We've been delayed and the backlog of military orders is the only reason we have been given.

On the good side, GXV has assembled the panels, the corner profiles, some rough wiring and the windows just arrived from Germany. They have confirmed that the cabin build will proceed and will be mounted on the truck when it arrives.

More to follow...

[GlobalMonkey]

Thanks for the update Andy.

Did you do any comparison between International and Freightliner? If so, why did you pick the International?

Thanks, Tomas

[Blackeye]

I did not look into what offerings Freightliner had.

I was initially drawn to the Mercedes Benz U500 Unimog that GXV was offering. In the interest of fulfilling my duty to research other options (my wife was not interested in the Unimog because of it's looks) I visited an International Truck dealer. It was my understanding that International produced factory 4x4 heavy-duty chassis with a factory super-single rear. After driving and spending some time in the U500, I knew that I needed to look at other options.

The International 7500 Workstar was the choice. Both my wife and I like the “look” of the truck. I was very impressed with the way the salesman walked me through every option, all the while asking great questions and offering advice. I knew that International, albeit Navistar Defense, produces military grade equipment. I knew that International built almost every 4x4 Fire Department and Forest Service truck I had seen. I was also intrigued by the way that International has addressed the 2010 emissions requirements with no urea requirement.

The jury is still out as we have yet to have our truck. Stay tuned....

[Offtrack]

Can't wait to see your truck. GXV builds some pretty cool units.

I ordered A International in 2000 for my company (private fire service company). It was a all wheel drive also. Great truck. The build was great and they can setup the truck just about any way you need. It was setup for emergency service even down to how the engine was programed.

I had a few minor issues when new and the biggest was the 270 amp alternator failed, witch I considered minor as we took this thing places most folks would never go with a truck like this all while packing 850 gallons of water on its back.

Been on the back roads in New Mexico on patrols for many miles. Was great work, got paid to explore with some fire excitement thrown in now and then.

You will enjoy that truck. The service from international is super also, just keep in mind they are truck shops so its not the same as auto shops and tend to have a different way of doing things. Not in a bad way.

[oonimog]

Looks like it's going to be a great platform, best of luck. I don't know how far off the beaten path you go or how hard you plan to push it off road but have you considered recovery if you get stuck? Not many off roaders are going to be able to "unstick" you with such a heavy truck and if far off the road, it may tough to find heavy recovery service. Have you given any thought a winch and recovery gear?

I look forward to seeing the project progress, thanks for posting.

[Blackeye]

Can't wait to see your truck. GXV builds some pretty cool units.

Thanks for your comments Scott. I am looking forward to the truck and the GXV combo.

[Blackeye]

Have you given any thought a winch and recovery gear?

I have considered the addition of the new WARN Olympus 25. It is not quite yet available to the general public as the initial orders are going to the military.

Beyond that, and more importantly IMHO, is the use of common sense. I have completed the OVERLAND TRAINING Comprehensive Certification Course, a 7-Day field and classroom training course. I took the course shortly after we took delivery of our Sportsmobile. The field training portion, in the actual vehicle that you will be using, was very informative and helpful. The instructors put you into real world situations in a quasi-controlled enviroment.

We know that weight will be one of the most important factors to consider as the new rig will weigh more than twice the amount of our SMB.

[charlieaarons]

I would deeply consider a hydraulic winch anything from a Superwinch 15K to a DP 20AJ to a Warn 30K in something that heavy.
25K lb is more than enough pulling power for an F550 but the power requirement will flatten the batteries quickly.
The new Ford auto trans has a PTO.
I have only a 15K in the rear of my U500 and a 20K in the front, but they are hydraulic.

Charlie

[westyss]

Charlie, how often have you used your winches? Sounds like you advocate having one, is it worth the expense, weight, cost? I have mildly looked at getting one but am just a little hesitant to go for it.

[Blackeye]

I would deeply consider a hydraulic winch Charlie

I have been told that in the event of an engine failure issue, the electric winch will still operate but the hydaulic requires a functioning engine. Any thoughts?

[Saline]

On that same note: We had a Fire apparatus vendor bring by a new Urban Interface 4 wheel drive based on the International 7500 series. It had a "green" option of a small APU engine (auxillary power unit) that shuts the trucks engine down if it has been idling for over 10 minutes. The APU then supplies electrical power and I believe is enough to run a hydraulic pump. It saves approx 1.5 gallons of diesel per hr over idling the main engine.

Food for thought. BTW the company was Rosenbauer.

[Bill Beers]

I don't know if it is of use to those building this type of adventure vehicle, but units specced for fire service generally have an additional heat exchanger. It is designed to use hydrant water to keep the engine cool while it is stationary. Maybe it could be used to provide on demand hot water? I'm not sure what these setups use for a water heating system.

[charlieaarons]

I have been told that in the event of an engine failure issue, the electric winch will still operate but the hydaulic requires a functioning engine. Any thoughts?

How far will uncharged batteries pull an 18000 lb truck? And how likely is an engine failure with an elevated air intake (snorkel)?

Charlie

[Jim K in PA]

I have been told that in the event of an engine failure issue, the electric winch will still operate but the hydaulic requires a functioning engine. Any thoughts?

I am just a lurker here in this section for the most part, as I do not have a GXV or anything close to it, but on this subject I would offer my input.

I have read arguments back and forth on this point. In the end, I am installing a Mile Marker hydraulic winch on my 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. It came down to two main points - efficiency and that common sense aspect.

Efficiency - an electric winch converts less than 40%, at best, of the electrical energy in the batteries to mechanical work. Hydraulic winches convert over 90% of the pressurized fluid energy into work. Think about this and you might find that this aspect alone is enough to seriously consider a hydraulic unit. What is not converted to mechanical energy, is converted to heat. Duty cycles on electric winches are quite low since they need to cool between pulls. An hydraulic winch can pull continuously with minimal heat generated.

Common sense - without question, you need a functioning hydraulic pump to use a hydraulic winch. Engine failure, for whatever reason, will prevent its use. However, if you do suffer engine failure (not just related to water crossing wherein you may not be able to safely run the engine), the use of your winch, IMO, becomes a much less important factor compared to the primary issue of not being able to drive the vehicle even if you got it out of where it may be stuck.

As Charlie pointed out succinctly above, even with a large battery bank, you will have minutes, not hours, of run time on an electric winch. Exhausted batteries will no longer be able to power lighting, or communications equipment. The substantial additional weight of the extra batteries to provide minimal run time, even with a high output alternator, is something I considered as a large negative, although with the size of your vehicle it may not be that important. Just remember, an electric winch may draw 300-400 amps (or more) during a loaded pull. That is far higher than just about any large high output alternator (or multiple alternators) can keep up with, so an electric winch is ALWAYS a battery operated winch.

The final decision rests with the owner/operator, as always, but this is a substantial investment either way, and should be looked at considering all aspects of the equipment available.

Hope this helps.

[oonimog]

Just my opinion, but I completely agree with Charlie, your truck is far too heavy for an electric winch and if the engine's not running, you've got bigger concerns than only being stuck. Electric is okay for something smaller but hydraulic is far more powerful and reliable. Direct PTO is also very powerful and the most efficient but less flexible than hydraulic. The downside to hydraulic is that it's expensive and requires more "infrastructure" (not just the winch, needs a pump, tank, filter, valves, etc). I brought up recovery now because if you decide to pursue this path, it may be good to sort this out with the dealer before taking delivery and before dropping GXV's box on it. Even if the hydraulics aren't installed immediately, at least have a plan so tanks and plumbing don't fight for the same real estate as the camper and things that need service access get it.

No matter what you drive or how good your skills, if you go far enough, sooner or later you're going to get stuck. And while there are many ways to get unstuck, I look at a winch as the last line of defense that must ALWAYS come through for you. An 8274 does that on my FJ40, a PTO-driven Superwinch on my 110, but it's hydraulic for my Mog. Just some food for thought.

[Blackeye]

Many thanks to all who have posted up on the subject of winches for a rig of this size. You have each provided valuable information and I am seriously considering the hydraulic route.

Thanks again!

BTW, GXV is continuing with the cabin build and the build date for the truck chassis is set for May 9, 2011. :wings:

[charlieaarons]

Warn makes a nice line of hydraulic winches ranging from 9-18000 lb in petite sizes and 20-30000 lb in big sizes.
http://www.warn.com/industrial/winches/hydraulic_winches_all.shtml
I would recommend the 15000 lb version for a GXV.

Charlie

[trailsurfer]

Glad to hear things are moving on the chassis. Dave Nordstrom and I were discussing you and the build last week while we were fly fishing on the San Juan. We were wondering what the latest news was on build. Look forward to seeing you here in the four corners this summer. We will get in some excellent fishing and camping.

[Blackeye]

Warn makes a nice line of hydraulic winches ranging from 9-18000 lb in petite sizes and 20-30000 lb in big sizes.
I would recommend the 15000 lb version for a GXV.
Charlie

Thank you, once again Charlie, for your words of wisdom. Now I need to get educated about hydraulic pumps and related systems. I hope that it is not too late to incorporate hydraulics into our build.

[Blackeye]

Look forward to seeing you here in the four corners this summer. We will get in some excellent fishing and camping.

I will keep you posted when we know timing. I can't wait.

[Offtrack]

GXV has a new unit on display.
Very impressive build.
http://globalxvehicles.com/gxv-pangea-gallery/

[scootr29]

What Maxxforce engine?

[Ford Prefect]

Thank you, once again Charlie, for your words of wisdom. Now I need to get educated about hydraulic pumps and related systems. I hope that it is not too late to incorporate hydraulics into our build.

I suspect the folks over at international will have some great thoughts for you as well.


By the way, as mentioned earlier, your truck is really a truck, not an SUV, ergo dealing with the dealers around North America will be a little different, and most will not have any experience working with a motorhome (for that is what they will see this as.) One super nice thing that you might notice, however, is that trucks of this sort are made with Functionality in mind, were as most motorhomes, and in many ways even GXV and Sportsmobile are made with Form in mind. You will likely find that many of the repairs on your international are easier to accomplish than they would have been on most other vehicles, and the dealers can accomplish a lot more for you in a short amount of time. On top of that as most of these trucks are work trucks, they need to be dealt with and back on the road asap, because people are losing money having them just sit there. The Mac dealer I used to take my truck to also did International and Volvo, and they were awesome, fast, and courteous, and they knew a heck of a lot about the truck and could show me exactly what they were talking about every time. I am sure I don't have to tell you how nice that was.


I have a question about tires... Why did you choose the tire you did? The tires I had on my Mac were wonderful off-road, and were rated to do interstate speeds easily. Why is the tire you chose set for 68mph rather than 75-80?

Thanks much!

[Ozarker]

We’ve pulled the trigger on our new rig but before I get to the “what”, I thought I’d elaborate a little on the “why”.

Over the years, we have been fortunate to have owned a variety of on / off-road vehicles, such as a sweet D-90, a couple of Range Rovers, a couple of Hummers, a couple of Jeep Grand Cherokees, an FJ Cruiser, etc. Over the years, we have rented and borrowed several Class A motor homes. A couple of years ago, while borrowing my brother’s 40’ diesel pusher for a road trip through the southwest, we decided that we wanted something that we could travel for extended amounts of time and travel to just about any destination on or off the tarmac. While rolling in the motor homes, we found ourselves always wanting to venture where the traditional motor home with severely restricted ground clearance, extensive overhangs and limited turning radius could not go. We wanted a small self-contained adventure vehicle in which we could “live” inside.

As many of you know, in 2008, we purchased a 2008 Sportsmobile 4x4 Ford E350 van.

It revolutionized our overlanding experience. It took us to so many great places over the two years that we owned it. In fact, during those two years, we were blessed to have logged close to 75,000 miles and spent well over 200 nights in it. Because of the way that the Sportsmobile met our needs, we seriously considered another Sportsmobile, probably an exact replica of what we had. However, with the high number of miles that we logged over the past two years, and with the strong desire to do the same if not more in the future, we started looking for a heavy-duty chassis that will theoretically last 1,000,000 miles or so. I guess one could make a Sportsmobile or a Ford F-550 go 500,000 miles, but I am not that person.

We have enjoyed our travels through the western states and I was able to enjoy a quick trip into Baja with the Overland Training Alumni. For now and the foreseeable future, our sights are set on travelling within the North American continent. Specifically, we are looking forward to exploring British Columbia, the Yukon, Alaska, Canada, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, the east coast of the US, not to mention continuing to explore and enjoy the incredible western states.

We have labored over this decision. It has not come without many hours of research, discussion and thought. I would like to thank so many here on Expedition Portal for all of their contributions and would like to extend a very warm thank you to Jay, Chip, Doug and kudos to Stephen Stewart who assembled “Choosing an Overland Campervan” http://www.xor.org.uk/silkroute/equipment/choosevan.htm. This is an incredible resource for anyone asking some of the same questions that we have asked.

My research indicated that there aren’t too many options when it comes to heavy duty chassis that are available here in the states that incorporate 26,000 + GVWR, factory 4 wheel drive and factory single rear wheels. I took an interest in the Mercedes Unimog U500 and the International 7500 WorkStar series truck.

When it comes to the Unimog, I have to admit that when I saw the Global Expedition Vehicles (GXV) Unimog U500 with their integrated camper at the first Overland Expo 2009 I refused to even get near it as I knew it would be just too tempting.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Misc-Adventure-Shots/GXV-OVExpo-09/1170326758_u6NX6-M.jpg

(I’m sure that you have seen them advertised over the years just inside the cover of Overland Journal.) Then GXV had another U500 unit in a similar configuration at the Overland Expo 2010.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Misc-Adventure-Shots/GXV-91-at-Expo/1170330024_UAf3E-M.jpg

This time, I was brave enough to wander over and have a closer look. I was impressed, to say the very least. So impressed that when my wife said that she wanted to see the second largest cross in the western hemisphere (19 stories tall) in Groom, Texas someday, I told her let’s do it and that from there we could just run on over to GXV in Nixa, Missouri. I know, you’re thinking that is pushing it, but I knew of no other way to find out about the Unimog and Global Expedition Vehicles.

We made the trip and really enjoyed our time at GXV. Mike and Rene’ opened up the place to us and Mike took us out in their Freightliner “Patagonia” rig and in the Unimog “Expedition” rig. We were really impressed with both rigs. The fit and finish was incredible. The interior of the cabin (living area) spaces were amazing. Our schedule left us a little pressed for time, but we were impressed by what we saw and felt quite welcome by everyone at GXV.

Since I was most interested in the Unimog (even though my wife said that it looked like a garbage truck), I wanted to drive it and experience it from the cockpit. I flew out to Springfield, MO and met up with Mike to drive the Unimog. My impression is that the U500 is “off the charts” when it comes to its off-road prowess with some compromise when it comes to the highway. I came away thankful for the experience, but knowing that I was interested in a little more highway comfort and more top-end power. I was willing to sacrifice some of the über off-road capability.

When it comes to the choice of an overland vehicle, we each need to decide what is right for us. We have to evaluate our needs and our wants. Where and how we travel is a significant part of that evaluation. I have determined that this decision involves some compromises. While we love to get away from it all, travel deep into the back country and spend time away from civilization, we also do not want to suffer significantly while getting there. Many of our travels, just to get to the place where we leave the tarmac, include up to 1,000 miles or more of highway driving each way.

We decided to purchase a new chassis, knowing full well that the cost will be more and the chassis incorporate extensive electronics, etc. We also know that any “new” U.S. legal chassis will require the use of Ultra-Low Sulphur diesel (ULSD). Since our targeted travels will be in areas that ULSD should be available, that is not an issue. Another benefit to purchasing a new chassis is the availability of extended warranties. Again, another additional cost, but this investment is acceptable because I don’t have the expertise, nor do I want to make the investment in time to upgrade and wrench an older chassis.

In terms of the cabin (living area), we considered the Earthroamer XV-LT, the offerings from Unicat and Global Expedition Vehicles (GXV). The Earthroamer XV-LT is currently only offered on the Ford F550 chassis. As mentioned before, that chassis is not of interest to us. We visited Avi Meyers who represents Unicat here in the states. We toured two of the Unicat Americas rigs. They were very nice but extremely expensive. When comparing between the Unicat and GXV offerings, I was surprised to see that the components are very similar. It turns out that a comparably equipped Unicat is almost twice the cost of the GXV. I also like the fact that the GXV is assembled in the United States.

We are excited to say that we have ordered a 2011 International 7500 WorkStar SFA 4x4 truck chassis and we have commissioned Global Expedition Vehicles to assemble and mount GXV "Expedition" body onto the truck chassis.

I have included some sketches that are pretty rough but might help to provide an indication of what we are working toward.

CHASSIS:
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/International-7500-SFA-Sketch/1170314633_gMz6K-XL.jpg
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/International-7500-SFA-Sketch/1170354740_CatjT-XL.jpg
INTERNATIONAL 7500 SFA 4X4
Extended cab
Wheelbase: 215”
Cab to axle: 114”
GVWR: 33,000 lbs
Estimated Chassis weight: 14,333 lbs
Engine: MaxxForce 10, 310 HP, 1050 lb-ft Torque
Transmission (Automatic) - Allison 3000 (Rugged Duty) 5-Speed, Overdrive, On/Off Highway
Front axle: Meritor MX-12-120, Single Reduction, 12,000 lb Capacity
Rear axle: Single Meritor MS-21-14X-6DCR, Single Reduction, Wide Track, 21,000 lb Capacity
Driver Controlled Locking Differential
Gear Ratio: 4.88
Tires: Goodyear G178 in 425/65R/22.5, load range L, 20 ply

Even with fuel, water, food and gear, we should end up weighing well below the GVWR. We have specified rugged duty service and off-highway components when possible.

CABIN:

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-Interior-above-driver-side/1170314552_gvpow-XL.jpg
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-Interior-above-passenger/1170314594_rYx3J-XL.jpg
http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/GXV/GXV-Bike-Tire-Rack-Idea/1170314518_gfzXc-XL.jpg
GLOBAL EXPEDITION VEHICLES "Expedition"

The GXV cabin is made up of 2.36" structural composite panels of FRP clad polyurethane foam insulation (R20).

The following are the cabin dimensions:
Cabin Length: 15' 10" (190") exterior / 15' 6" (186") interior front-to -rear
Cabin Width: 96" exterior / 91" interior sidewall-to-sidewall
Cabin Height: 7' 4" (88") exterior / 6' 6" (78") interior floor-to-ceiling

OVERALL:
Overall Length: 27’ 5” (329”)
Overall Width: 8’ (96”)
Overall Height: 11’ 4” (136”)

We anticipate that the truck will be built in late March / early April. We hope that the assembly and integration of the cabin will occur shortly thereafter.

I would like to, once again, extend my thanks to the Expedition Portal and the many who contribute so much information. I’ll update with more details, photos and information as we proceed ahead.

The waiting is the hardest part!

SORRY, I had to quote soooo much, but did you mean it's built in Nixa, Mo? Never heard of it, nor have I seen it! I have seen one on the road, but thought it was someone heading to Branson....LOL

I'm in Springfield! I will definately have to find these guys! :Wow1:

[Blackeye]

I have a question about tires... Why did you choose the tire you did?


Thanks for your comments and advice. I really appreciate it.

International is very particular about their engineering. The tire we chose was the best option available through the factory based on our configuration. We wanted the MICHELIN XZL but the GOODYEAR was the only "all road" option. I spec'd a 445/65/R22.5 but they said we had to stay with the 425/65/R22.5.

Now that I have seen the truck (and the tires) I am very happy with the "look" but since we are still in the "build" process I haven't had a chance to roll the tires.

I hope that this answers your question.

[BigGreen]

Hello All
I was thinkng of doing the same kinda build as you are doing, I assume that the savings from doing your build this way saved a lot of money as compared by buying a turnkey unit. The purchase of the chassis and shipping it to GXV did it save you a lot? Did you ask about changing the floor plan.. in my case change one kingsize bed to two singles, was wondering if its's a substancial price increase?
Thanks in advance for any info you can give.
Lou

[M1911]

Here's a silly question. If you get a flat out in the boondocks, how do you change the tire? The wheel + tire on my 4Runner is manageable for me, but the monsters on one of these rigs must be over 100 lbs. How do you change them by yourself?

[cwsqbm]

Here's a silly question. If you get a flat out in the boondocks, how do you change the tire? The wheel + tire on my 4Runner is manageable for me, but the monsters on one of these rigs must be over 100 lbs. How do you change them by yourself?

The bare tires weight over 200 lbs without the rim, so I'd guess 250~275 lbs for the combo. That's why they need a winch to get the spare off its mount.

[M1911]

The bare tires weight over 200 lbs without the rim, so I'd guess 250~275 lbs for the combo. That's why they need a winch to get the spare off its mount.
Yea, but what do you do after you get the spare off its mount? You still need to get it onto the hub and hold it there while you bolt it on.

[dwh]

Yea, but what do you do after you get the spare off its mount? You still need to get it onto the hub and hold it there while you bolt it on.


http://www.billcaid.com/2010/1017ACamperConstruction20100921/Part12/Part12.html

"Why is that shovel in all these photos? The answer is that it is the trick to changing large tires. A standard #2 spade-point shovel provides an excellent lifting method for large tires. It takes a hard task and makes it easy. In fact, you can change a tire with only one person if you have a shovel and the truck is not jacked too high. In addition to lifting, in also acts as a "sled" to slide the tire away from the wheel when removing the tire from the hub. Frankly, I doubt that it would be possible to do this action without this sort of tool."

[charlieaarons]

The bare tires weight over 200 lbs without the rim, so I'd guess 250~275 lbs for the combo. That's why they need a winch to get the spare off its mount.

395/85R20 XZLs weigh 220-224 lb. Lemmerz 3 piece wheels weigh 116 lb, for a total of ~340 lb.

Charlie

[Ford Prefect]

It REALLY is not that hard at all to change one of those tires, I have done it several times.

Basically you need a pry bar that is about four feet long. You roll the tire in front of the hub, you use one hand on the tire, the other on the pry bar, and you lift it into place. Again, really rather easy.

[Blackeye]

What Maxxforce engine?

Our 7500 has the MaxxForce 10 engine.

[Blackeye]

Hello All
I was thinkng of doing the same kinda build as you are doing, I assume that the savings from doing your build this way saved a lot of money as compared by buying a turnkey unit. The purchase of the chassis and shipping it to GXV did it save you a lot? Did you ask about changing the floor plan.. in my case change one kingsize bed to two singles, was wondering if its's a substancial price increase?
Thanks in advance for any info you can give.
Lou

I suggest giving GXV a call and discuss your ideas. Each build is a little different.

[Blackeye]

Here are some "teaser" shots...

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-rJCDcJ9/0/XL/STP61581-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-trNjdGQ/0/XL/STP61633-XL.jpg

[Overland Hadley]

^ Cool!

[ersatzknarf]

WOW ! ! ! :Wow1:


Here are some "teaser" shots...

[Northern Explorer]

Can't wait to see the rest of it.

[ujoint]

Beast!!!!

[PhantomDude451]

Update? Anyone? Bueller?

[Blackeye]

Update? Anyone? Bueller?

Things are progressing...please be patient. We are hoping to take delivery soon and I promise I will post up with photos for you.

Until then...

[Overland Hadley]

Things are progressing...please be patient. We are hoping to take delivery soon and I promise I will post up with photos for you.

Until then...

Looking forward to seeing the finished rig.

[thetonka]

Very cool build. I'm jealous.

[PhantomDude451]

How can you stand the wait!?!? I would be climbing the walls with such a GREAT Christmas present in the works!

[mervifwdc]

I watched a trucker friend of mine change a wheel while he had a broken leg! He had 2 long pry bars of about 4' length each, and put them both under the tyre, one at 5 o'clock and one at 7 o'clock. He had the old wheel off and the new one on as quick as I could wheel them from tyre carrier.


It REALLY is not that hard at all to change one of those tires, I have done it several times.

Basically you need a pry bar that is about four feet long. You roll the tire in front of the hub, you use one hand on the tire, the other on the pry bar, and you lift it into place. Again, really rather easy.

[southpier]

did he break his leg before or during?

[Ozarker]

Spotted the International as shown on the first page in Springfield, Mo. at the Holiday Inn Express at James River and US 65. It was awsome! All dark green and blacked out except for the AC unit on the roof and the fuel tanks.

Now, I'm finding or hearing, that these are made in Nixa, Mo. is that right? Mike Van Pelt? Geez, that would be like 15 miles away from my house! I'll have to research this and if so, I'll go for the tour! :Wow1:

EDITED:

WELL GEEEEZ! I just went to the home site and they have been under my nose all this time! Man, do I feel dumb now! Can I just erase this post? I never thought anything that cool would be comming out of my backyard! Oh well! I'll be watching for deals now....no wonder Ihave seen these on the highways and around Branson! Later...

[chrismc]

Ozarker, don't feel bad. I've been a fan of GXV for years and have followed their progress closely. I'm right up in St Louis, down in the Ozarks all the time for recreation, and still haven't made it over there for a visit. Its definitely cool that they're here at home, it seems like most of the really cool stuff usually comes from elsewhere (Prescott, anyone?). Makes me MO proud!

[Blackeye]

Yes, it is true, we are rolling in our new rig. We are stoked!!!
More to come, including pix of our rig. Stand by as we are on the road & heading west. Colorado is our first destination.

[trailsurfer]

Great to hear! Please let us know when you are in the area. please check your PM's

[Overland Hadley]

More to come, including pix of our rig.

:lurk:

[Blackeye]

Just some teaser shots...

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-btPB6Tv/0/XL/DSC0085-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-94k89nL/0/XL/DSC0086-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-T5gMJBg/0/XL/DSC0095-XL.jpg

There will be more, I promise.

[tony_h]

Wow!

[ujoint]

OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow is an understatement. Incredible

[Overland Hadley]

**** ****!

[Ozarker]

Yep, that's the one I saw at the Hilton Express in SE Springfield....I see you went to Springfield Lake! :Wow1::wings:

[Blackeye]

Great to hear! Please let us know when you are in the area. please check your PM's

Will do!

[SRUPike]

I need GPS coordinates of where this is so I can pay omage to the godfather of all overland vehicles, every night as I go to bed. Not go get her DIRTY, can't wait to hear of the adventures...

Awesome job! GXV what an truck can't wait to see more.

[ersatzknarf]

WOW ! (have said that before, actually...)

You folks even got the really good windows, too !
http://www.kctechnik.de/

Nice :sombrero:

(http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/20822-Sönke-s-hard-side-popup-camper?p=361381#post361381)

Have to say that this is the best looking set-up that GXV have made to date. It really looks great :Wow1:

Looking forward to seeing more photos, please ! ! !



Just some teaser shots...

There will be more, I promise.

[chrismc]

Nice! The location of the window awning halfway up the side of the truck really gives a good sense of the scale of this thing.

It looks like you opted to pass on the "Natura Opening Wall" option. I always thought that looked a little goofy, but I'm curious what your reasoning was to skip it?

Indoor pics?

[PhantomDude451]

That is truly AWESOME. The first thing the gf said was, "What's it look like on the inside?" If you feel cool with it we would both love to see what you did with your interior. Also... I saw in the first shot the fuel tank looks like a flat oval configuration. Is that IH standard? How many gallons of fuel does she carry? I've also never seen an inside shot of the compartment on the back (under the slope). Is that storage or is that support equipment (tanks, pumps, heater, etc)?

[GlobalMonkey]

Earlier this afternoon my phone rang and Andy "Blackeye" called me up that he is driving through Denver with his brand new truck. We hang out for a couple of hours and I got a guided tour of the monster truck:)
I have to say that Andy and his wife are two amazing people and I am happy to know them. And yes, their truck is amazing as well.
Enjoy the photos, Tomas

P.S. Here are results of our meeting:

[Overland Hadley]

Beautiful.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69557&d=1314665757

[Aluminess]

Now that is Special. We need to see a photo of you and Robin standing next to it. Can't wait to see it. Very cool indeed. Thanks to GlobalMonkey for the photos.

[thetonka]

Droooooool!!

[kjp1969]

Beautiful.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69557&d=1314665757

Wow- large and in charge.
Did they relocate the headlights? For minimum height requirements, I assume?

[GlobalMonkey]

Yes, the headlights have been relocated by the factory because of the maximum height requirements.

[Blackeye]

Quick check in from the road. We are in the middle of the Rockies. I must say that I am so happy with the truck. It is powerful & rock solid.

We weighed it in Denver and it is a svelte 24k lbs. Well under the 33k GVWR.

I promise to respond to questions posted when we get back to civilization, that is IF we go back.

Thanks to all for your kind words & support. Special thanks to GlobalMonkey for our time together & for posting the pix.

More to come...

[charlieaarons]

We weighed it in Denver and it is a svelte 24k lbs. Well under the 33k GVWR.


More to come...

Mine weighed 10200kg (22400 lb) at Unicat when new. Now fully loaded with fuel, water, food, tools, recovery gear, assorted stuff and front/rear winches it can weigh up to 12800kg (28200 lb).

Charlie

[camperman]

Beautiful.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69557&d=1314665757

You misunderstood me, I meant size of the truck and its brutality

[ersatzknarf]

Thrilled to hear you folks are so happy with it :sombrero:

Congrats on the weigh-in ! Is that fully loaded ? Regardless, room to spare...

Looking forward to hearing more.

Gotta go check the lotto ticket ;)


Quick check in from the road. We are in the middle of the Rockies. I must say that I am so happy with the truck. It is powerful & rock solid.

We weighed it in Denver and it is a svelte 24k lbs. Well under the 33k GVWR.

<snip>

More to come...

[mhiscox]

I'd just like to add my congratulations and admiration. It is a handsome truck with outstanding specifications and I'm sure you'll have many impressive and enjoyable adventures with it.

:bowdown:

[thetonka]

I didn't see if the fuel mileage was posted. I'd love to convince the wife we need one of these, and it could easily to a trailer with more toys.




Not that I can afford it. :Wow1:

[Ford Prefect]

P.S. Here are results of our meeting:

So...um... It may be just me, but does anyone else get the impression that Blackeye likes black and gray?!

Smokes!

It certainly is a very classy look on the interior, I love everything about it!

How hard is it to go through the pass through?? It just looked a touch narrow, but I could be deceived by the overall size of the vehicle.

Well, again, very nice and congratulations to you both!

Are you going to take it to Moab and drive up Potash road and through Shaffer Switch backs?

[OLDTOM]

You show a great GXV and we wish you well..
We are very – very close to placing and order for the EarthRoma based on the Ford F550Your rather offhand comment regarding the F550 sets us thinking yet again. What’s wrong with the Ford F550.

Agree with your assessment of the UNIMOG but think you may look back and think perhaps the International is just a bit too wide for small mountain villages especially on market days. Would be interested in your experiences.

Regards OldTom on Tour.

[Capt Eddie]

Please tell me that there is a 20000lb PTO winch hid somewhere on the rig? If not, I would think that you have greatly limited the places that you would like to take offroad.

[Scoutman]

Subscribed, INCREDIBLE vehicle to say the least!

[GR8ADV]

I didn't see if the fuel mileage was posted.

haha, like it can possibly matter? :bike_rider:

impressed on several fronts. congrats and enjoy.

[4xdog]

Followed this thread since the concept was laid down. The finished product is imprssive beyond all expectations. Congratulations to Blackeye and to GXV. Have fun with it, and hope to see you on the roads.

Nice to know MO can contribute to overlanding with somethng like this. Those of us living here take a little special pride thanks to the guys in Nixa.

Don

[dsw4x4]

Blackeye,
I just stopped in at GXV the other day on my way through town hoping to see your rig! I was a few days late darn the bad luck. Anyway Renee was super nice and gave us a quick tour of their facility anyway. You truck is really sharp good luck in your travels.
Derek

[GlobalMonkey]

How hard is it to go through the pass through?? It just looked a touch narrow, but I could be deceived by the overall size of the vehicle.



The "pass through" in Blackeye's expedition truck is actually bigger (taller) than usual. The entire floor plan was based on the fact that Andy wanted to be able to move between the camper and the trucks cabin without crawling on his knees.
I am 6' tall and about 160 pounds (yes, I know, I need to eat more....) and it was very easy to go through the "pass through". The width was just fine.

Tomas

[Blackeye]

We are back at home (at least for a couple of days) and I wanted to post a couple of pics from the maiden voyage from MO to CA.

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-NFRv6jB/0/XL/DSC0140-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-mKhhF5x/0/XL/DSC0208-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-cVjqX5n/0/XL/DSC0256-XL.jpg

I will also attempt to address some the questions shortly.

Thanks to all for your interest and your kind words.

[Blackeye]

It looks like you opted to pass on the "Natura Opening Wall" option. I always thought that looked a little goofy, but I'm curious what your reasoning was to skip it?

We decided that with the placement of the largest window offered, we would accomplish basically what we wanted in view and ventilation. It turns out that we are very pleased with the window at the Dinette. The “Natura Window Wall” would be nice, but not necessary for us.

I saw in the first shot the fuel tank looks like a flat oval configuration. Is that IH standard? How many gallons of fuel does she carry?

That is the 70-gallon tank in what is called a “D” shape. This tank holds 70 gallons. Since we were unsure where the optimal placement of the generator would be, we held off on a second fuel tank. Now that the Fisher Panda generator is located rearward of the fuel tank on the driver’s side, we will likely add another matching 70-gallon tank on the passenger side and relocate the air compressor, battery box and air tanks as needed.

I've also never seen an inside shot of the compartment on the back (under the slope). Is that storage or is that support equipment (tanks, pumps, heater, etc)?

The rear storage area contains the 125-gallon water tank, water filtration system and the water heater. Additional storage is also available under this area. I have not yet determined exactly what we will store under this area.

How hard is it to go through the pass through?? It just looked a touch narrow, but I could be deceived by the overall size of the vehicle.

I am really pleased with the height and width of the cab-to-cabin pass through. I am 6’0” and 230lbs. (I should eat a little less.) I am able to go back and forth with ease.

What’s wrong with the Ford F550?

I think that the FORD F550 platform is great, especially if your plan is to keep the total mileage under 250,000. Since our plan is to “roll” for an extended amount of miles, we opted for a chassis rated for 1,000,000 miles. The cost differential between the Rugged Duty International Workstar and the up-fitted F550 was minor when you consider the extended mileage chassis.

Agree with your assessment of the UNIMOG but think you may look back and think perhaps the International is just a bit too wide for small mountain villages especially on market days. Would be interested in your experiences.

Our experience so far (albeit very limited) has been that we can access the outskirts of the very small towns and villages. From there, we will utilize mountain bikes and or foot travel to further explore and interact with the people, culture and scenery. We have found that when we can simply drive through a small town, we end up not interacting with the local people and we miss out on the real flavor of the place.

Please tell me that there is a 20000lb PTO winch hid somewhere on the rig? If not, I would think that you have greatly limited the places that you would like to take offroad.

We are still considering the self-extraction options. For now, I will implement the “think, plan, scout and be smart” option. Every rig has limitations on where it can safely go.

Again, many thanks for your support and kind words.

[Blackeye]

Mine weighed 10200kg (22400 lb) at Unicat when new. Now fully loaded with fuel, water, food, tools, recovery gear, assorted stuff and front/rear winches it can weigh up to 12800kg (28200 lb).

Charlie

Charlie, I can see how the additional weight can easily happen.

Our “weigh in” was really unrealistic, as we didn’t have any tools, recovery gear or toys. It merely gave us an indication of the accuracy of our planning. We targeted the 24k weight for chassis and camper.

Thank you again for sharing your wisdom and experience. I always welcome your input.

[trailsurfer]

Andy was nice enough to swing by and show me his new GXV. This will be the first of many get togethers for the rigs!


[img]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6118938189_ef5b3c1d51.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/6118938189/)


It was like a we were a traveling side show in the parking lot where we met. We had a steady stream of people checking out the trucks. It was a lot of fun to meet and talk to all of the interested folks.

[Billhilly]

Hey Blackeye,
Gorgeous rig you have there. Congratulations on completing the build. It looks great. Have fun!
If you ever get this far south, give us a shout.

[matthewp]

It was like a we were a traveling side show in the parking lot where we met. We had a steady stream of people checking out the trucks. It was a lot of fun to meet and talk to all of the interested folks.

I assume the popularity is something you have to live with owning vehicles like these... I know I would say hello with some questions for you! Very nice vehicles gentlemen.

[Blackeye]

Andy was nice enough to swing by and show me his new GVX.


This will be the first of many get togethers for the rigs!




It was great to see you! Sorry we didn't have time to hang out longer. We look forward to adventures together. Safe travels to you!

[Blackeye]

Hey Blackeye,
Gorgeous rig you have there. Congratulations on completing the build. It looks great. Have fun!
If you ever get this far south, give us a shout.

Will do. I've been to the South Island a couple of times but have yet to explore the North Island. It will be fly fishing that will bring me down for now. NZ is high on the list for overland adventures though.

Thanks for your kind words.

[Ford Prefect]

Thank you Blackeye! Very kind of you to answer all of our questions.

I think that this may well be the best production rig for an American overland company yet! It really looks like it would rival the Unicat in ability and quality. It is so nice to see that someone has managed to make a serious go of it, and appears to be in a place where we can hope to have serious overland vehicles of all sizes available (in a way) to Americans!!

Thanks for Sharing! This is my new dream truck!! (in the crew cab and lift roof, I have a family with small kids after all)!!

Thank you so much for your willingness to let us dream and live vicariously through your build process.

Regards,

[cellularsteve2]

Congrats Blackeye. I look forward to hearing more about it and hopefully seeing it one day.

steve

[adam88]

Very impressive. Thanks a lot for sharing. I am not sure if you mentioned it or not but, do you know what type of windows they used? Brand? They are beautiful, sunken in nicely. I love how they fit flush with the outside of the vehicle. If you know the brand I'd love to know....

[camperman]

Yep, windows on GXV vehicles are beautiful. I also like to know who makes them, I only know what they are called Armor Vision

[RoosterBooster]

Blackeye

the pic of your rig (with what looks to be the Cedar breaks in the background) replaced my previous "Unicat Amerigo" wallpaper :victory:
very nice rig and i like your color choices (i could not stand Unicats "kitchen appliance white" any longer lol ) ...

but i have one suggestion; i would "black out" the bumper light surrounds.
imho the chrome is drawing too much attention to the headlight fix (height law?!?) :)

[Blackeye]

Very impressive. Thanks a lot for sharing. I am not sure if you mentioned it or not but, do you know what type of windows they used? Brand? They are beautiful, sunken in nicely. I love how they fit flush with the outside of the vehicle. If you know the brand I'd love to know....

The windows are made by http://www.kctechnik.com/en/window.html

It is my understanding that they are available in the USA through Global Expedition Vehicles (www.globalxvehicles.com)

We love them!

[Blackeye]

...but i have one suggestion; i would "black out" the bumper light surrounds.
imho the chrome is drawing too much attention to the headlight fix (height law?!?) :)

That was one of the first things I considered. We just need to stay in one place for a while for those little tinkering projects.

A belated apology for not responding sooner. We have been traveling a lot, in fact, we have already hit 11 states.

Thanks for your kind words.

[camperman]

Black eye, this site is very useful for owners of motor homes. And one more excuse for the response to the pictures of your truck - my knowledge of English makes me blush once, when I write something. So where I first wrote the "monstrous" I had a mind that truck was huge, but I wrote what I had written over the fact that I thought : monster truck. It's was a compliment, and I once saw what I wrote did not want anything to write. But where I still find the people, interested the same way as me? You're hopefully not hurt after that response :oops:

[Blackeye]

Black eye, this site is very useful for owners of motor homes. And one more excuse for the response to the pictures of your truck - my knowledge of English makes me blush once, when I write something. So where I first wrote the "monstrous" I had a mind that truck was huge, but I wrote what I had written over the fact that I thought : monster truck. It's was a compliment, and I once saw what I wrote did not want anything to write. But where I still find the people, interested the same way as me? You're hopefully not hurt after that response :oops:

No worries, I took your comments as a good thing. Thank you for your kind words.

[Blackeye]

A few pix from our travels...

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-wHHm7PG/0/XL/DSC0094-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-92GrtKp/0/XL/DSC0272-XL.jpg

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-WPrdpv6/0/XL/DSC0100-XL.jpg

and a good start to the day...

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-msKDdbt/0/XL/DSC0268-XL.jpg

[Ford Prefect]

and a good start to the day...

http://blackeye.smugmug.com/Other/Our-GXV/i-msKDdbt/0/XL/DSC0268-XL.jpg

I can't tell what that is, but it looks fabulous!

[camperman]

Nice shots!

[Overland Hadley]

A few pix from our travels...


Wow.

Keep the photos coming.

[mhiscox]

Wow. Keep the photos coming.
Yes, please. They are very interesting and appreciated.

[Blackeye]

I can't tell what that is, but it looks fabulous!

Thanks! It's just a couple of eggs with diced tomato, onion and cilantro over a bed of spinach. It is a one pan breakfast. All the credit to my wife!

[camperman]

1. With so skilled cook travelling is pleasure :chef:
2. Those antennas looks great on your rig. It's mirror mounted?

[Blackeye]

Those antennas looks great on your rig. It's mirror mounted?

Yes, the white antenna are for the CB radio. The center mounted antenna is for the YAESU 8800-R dual band HAM radio. The CB radio is used for convoy communication when others in the group are using CB. We had the antenna included in the build because it is quite affordable that way. I primarily use the CB antenna for a height gauge. I know that if they touch, it is time to reconsider forward progress. They are just a little taller than the top of the air conditioner.

[camperman]

I primarily use the CB antenna for a height gauge. I know that if they touch, it is time to reconsider forward progress. They are just a little taller than the top of the air conditioner.
Smart way to go forward without any damage :)

[TomH]

Andy, you have an awesom rig. I appreciate the logic you laid out in choosing this particular rig and I agree that choice of vehicle is a very personal decision.

I wonder if you could help me in doing some cost analysis of my own. You stated the expected lifetime of your rig in miles, but I cannot find where you stated the cost. For myself, I wonder whether I could go through two or three EarthRoamers or Provan Siberian Tigers for the same total cost and mileage. While true that your vehicle offers more space and better off road ability, I wonder whether that is offset by mileage. Just so I have some reference points in doing a cost analysis of what's best for my own family, May I please pose these questions:

What was the cost of your vehicle to date?

What upfitting expenses do you anticipate for hydro winch, other items?

What mpg are you getting hwy., backcountry, etc.?

How many miles do you expect to get on a set of tires?

What will a replacement set of tires cost?

What are your insurance coverages and costs?

What are your registration and license plate fees?

How much better has your rig been in reaching remote destinations than say, an EarthRoamer might be? Have you had to turn around in any backcountry situations where the vehicle was too high. Have you had any experience yet in urban driving and parking, and if so, what problems did you have?

I do not see the "Expedition" body on the GXV site. It looks like a modified Safari Extreme; is that correct, or do they have other models not shown on their site? Can you give any more insight about the pros and cons of GXV's larger models when compared to each other, and how you settled on your model vs their other offerings?

I appreciate you taking the time to address these issues.

Appreciatively,
Tom

[Blackeye]

Hi Tom,

I apologize for the delay in responding to your post and thank you for your kind words.

It looks like you are trying to make some decisions or at least perform a cost / benefit analysis. As you mention, the choice of a rig is a very personal decision and I would add that the analysis is also a very personal, individual and complex process.

I agree with you that one could theoretically go through several other rigs for the same overall cost of a fully-kitted out GXV. We chose not to. Regarding the cost of a rig like ours, I would direct you to discuss costs and options with Rene’ Van Pelt at Global Expedition Vehicles (GXV). Each rig is a little different and the options seem endless.

What was the cost of your vehicle to date? – The only items that we have added are an air hose connection to the air tanks and we have upgraded the OEM headlights that were installed in the bumper. We also had the trim rings powder coated black. I suggest that you contact Rene’ at GXV as each rig is different and they have many different options and packages to choose from. Once you narrow down what your needs / wants are, you will have a pretty accurate cost.

What upfitting expenses do you anticipate for hydro winch, other items? – I haven’t gotten to the winch pricing yet. We are currently considering a rear-mounted electric over hydraulic winch.

What mpg are you getting hwy., backcountry, etc.? – Combined mpg is around 8.

How many miles do you expect to get on a set of tires? – I do not know.

What will a replacement set of tires cost? – I do not know.

What are your insurance coverages and costs? – I have this vehicle insured along with several others so the cost is not applicable to a stand-alone policy.

What are your registration and license plate fees? – They will vary from state to state. It is registered as a Motorhome and not as a commercial vehicle.

How much better has your rig been in reaching remote destinations than say, an EarthRoamer might be? – I do not know. I’ll have to set up some outings with some of my ER buddies. :smiley_drive:

Have you had to turn around in any backcountry situations where the vehicle was too high. – Not yet, but I know the rig has height limitations.

Have you had any experience yet in urban driving and parking, and if so, what problems did you have? – It has been quite easy to drive and park. The turning radius is really the only consideration.

I do not see the "Expedition" body on the GXV site. It looks like a modified Safari Extreme; is that correct, or do they have other models not shown on their site? – It looks like it is listed under the “Safari Extreme”.

Can you give any more insight about the pros and cons of GXV's larger models when compared to each other, and how you settled on your model vs. their other offerings? – We liked the overall size of the Safari Extreme body. We really like the floorplan with the bath forward, the tall cab-to-cabin access and the side Dinette area.

I hope that this information is helpful.

Blackeye

[bluejeep]

Cool! I have the exact same setup!!
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as far as the bike rack I mean

[Felipe]

Hello Blackeye,
I have been following this thread with grate interest.
For the last two months I have been working with International Mexico to configure a 7300 4x4 extended cab. The truck will be built in the USA and imported into Mexico by International. We have narrowed the options list to a point in which I feel comfortable with most of them.
One thing that I requested but seams not to be possible is an option to disconnect the ABS. The only option is PERMANENT ABS, are you able to disconnect the ABS, or you also have PERMANENT ABS on your rig ?
I have selected the Allison 3500 automatic 5 speed wide ratio transmission and a Meritor MTC 4208 two speed transfer case with PTO provision. Do you have this same set up ? Any comments on how it performs on hwy and off road ?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Felipe
U100L

[charlieaarons]

My Unimog U500 has a switch to disable the ABS, a warning light comes on. If you can get the chassis wiring diagram, I am willing to bet that interrupting one wire with an illuminated switch (illuminated when "off") would do it. I do not think that an ABS malfunction makes air brake trucks lock up; rather, just a warning light comes on.
But the wiring diagram is essential.
Also, regarding the electronic Allison 5 spd: if my facts are correct, 5th is 0.75 and there is a 6th gear of 0.65 "hidden" in the trans just awaiting electronic activation. If that is true, you could have it activated and order shorter (numerically higher) axle gears, i.e. 4.56 instead of 3.90 or 3.73 or whatever or 5.125 instead of 4.30 etc etc. Depending on tire size. Because low range in those big transfer cases just isn't all that low.

Charlie

Charlie

[Overland Hadley]

Just saw your rig on the Travel Channel!

Fun to see some video of it.

Of course the commentary was a little over the top, but did they call it an earth roamer at one point. oops.

[Blackeye]

Thanks for the heads up. We have been travelling and have not been watching the TV. We have been notified by folks several times when stopping for fuel, etc. that they just saw our rig on the show. One of these days we'll track it dow and watch it.

[GR8ADV]

We have been travelling and have not been watching the TV.

Wow that should be a bumper sticker or something. I feel good just reading that!

[SRUPike]

Okay Overland and Blackeye...

Your post intrigued me... I searched high and low and I found the teaser segemnt of your truck... The VanPelt's build an amazing product, top notch...

http://www.travelchannel.com/video/the-mad-max-of-winnebagos

[Blackeye]

Thanks for the heads up and the link to the video. Any idea what the name of the show is? I'm interested to search for it on the DVR and watch the whole show someday.

Thanks!

[Overland Hadley]

Thanks for the heads up and the link to the video. Any idea what the name of the show is? I'm interested to search for it on the DVR and watch the whole show someday.

Thanks!

Not sure, just flipping through and saw your rig. Imagine how shocked I was to see it.

Sorry, all I know is it was on the travel channel. I bet GXV would know.

[Felipe]

Hello Blackeye,
Im about to place an order for a 7300 4x4 with international. The only thing remaining to decide is the axel gear ratio. There are 12 different options to choose from.

I have read that your have a 4.88. I will like to know how this ratio performs. What is you opinion ? what is your top highway speed ? at what engine RPM's ? how is the performance when you switch to low range on the transfer case ? is it low enough ? I could choose a 6.14 and try to "unlock" the 6th gear on the Alison transmission as Charlie suggested, but I will like to hear your opinion on the set up that you have before making the decision.
Thanks a lot
Regards
Felipe

[Blackeye]

Hi Felipe,

We are really pleased with the 4.88. It is a great balance with the MaxxForce 10 engine. The truck pulls hills really well and rolls along on the highway easily. I have run at 75 mph for short durations. However, because the GOODYEAR G178 tires are speed rated at 68 mph, we usually top out at 65 mph. I don't recall for sure, but i think the RPM at 65 mph is around 1,100 RPM. We really like the ALLISON 3000 and the Engine Brake. This combo make traffic and mountainous descents a breeze. Last month, I drove from Grand Junction, CO to Denver, CO without using the brakes (except when we pulled of in Frisco to walk around).

I suggest asking and relying on the International Engineering Department for the best way to spec out your new rig. In my opinion, if you give them your performance specifications, they will "build" the rig with the right components and specifications.

I hope that this helps. All the best.

Blackeye

[cwsqbm]

Not sure, just flipping through and saw your rig. Imagine how shocked I was to see it.

Sorry, all I know is it was on the travel channel. I bet GXV would know.

Travel Channel - "Tricked Out Trailers". It was just on.

[TomH]

Travel Channel - "Tricked Out Trailers". It was just on.

I know, I came in from outside and caught the last shot of the rig. I was so bummed about missing it.

[Jeep]

Very nice rig, good chassis choice. Can I ask what the overall height is?
Thanks,
Mark.

[dro805]

i seen it in person one day stopped by my work, all i gotta say beautiful.

[Blackeye]

Very nice rig, good chassis choice. Can I ask what the overall height is?
Thanks,
Mark.

Mark,

Thanks for the compliments. It is about 12' 4" to the top of the A/C cover. We just say 13' so we are safe.

Thanks again,

Blackeye

[613Duramax]

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69557&d=1314665757

amazing truck! Just a thought after looking through this thread. You should add some nice aux. driving lights in the spot where the original headlights used to be. Maybe another pair of those Hella lights like you have on the roof (cause it looks like you might need more lights :)).

Good work. Subscribed!

[Blackeye]

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69557&d=1314665757

amazing truck! Just a thought after looking through this thread. You should add some nice aux. driving lights in the spot where the original headlights used to be. Maybe another pair of those Hella lights like you have on the roof (cause it looks like you might need more lights :)).

Good work. Subscribed!

Thx! It is already "in the works". The factory omitted the cradle and the wiring harness behind the "Orphan Annie" blank out plates. After discussion with the dealer, they agreed to supply what is needed to install lights in the factory locations. Of course, they will be for "off-road use only". wink-wink

As it turns out, the 20" Rigid LED bar in conjunction with the high beams makes for a great driving light. I have to be very judicious about the use of the LED bar as it is so effective.

Thanks again!

[Jeep]

Mark,

Thanks for the compliments. It is about 12' 4" to the top of the A/C cover. We just say 13' so we are safe.

Thanks again,

Blackeye

Have you ran into anything where the height was giving you any trouble? My rig is 11'6" to the top which is why I'm asking, I went through a lot of work to build it as roomy and low as possible, hopefully it's low enough!

Thanks,
Mark.

[Blackeye]

Not yet. Our previous rig (Sportsmobile) was +/- 10' 3" and so I was always aware of height while driving it. I know that it wouldn't be too much trouble to find some low hanging trees but in terms of bridges and or wires, no problems so far. The height is a trade-off for interior headroom. For us, I'll take the headroom and will just be aware of the height limitations as they present themselves.

[Jeep]

For us, I'll take the headroom and will just be aware of the height limitations as they present themselves.[/QUOTE]


Pretty much my take on that subject too.
Thanks again.

[Frank]

Very fun read from page 1.

Very inspiring to think about the "what if's" for myself in the future.

The question no one else has asked now that you have had it down the road a few miles, what do you regret about the vehicle? Did you not add something you wish you would have or found an option you thought you would use but haven't needed?

Also, maybe I missed it, are you also equipped with solar panels?

[clcoyle]

Just saw the show "Extreme RV" on the Travel Channel which did a whole feature on the GXV Overland Vehicle Line. Pretty amazing stuff and I cant wait to see your rig.

[Blackeye]

Very fun read from page 1.

Very inspiring to think about the "what if's" for myself in the future.

The question no one else has asked now that you have had it down the road a few miles, what do you regret about the vehicle? Did you not add something you wish you would have or found an option you thought you would use but haven't needed?

Also, maybe I missed it, are you also equipped with solar panels?

Frank,

Thanks for your kind words. We discussed your questions and really the only thing that we "would do that we didn't do" would be to add a fold-out or slide out step for accessing the bed. We use a small folding step that easily fits into one of the drawers under the bed so ity is really not a big deal. We just thought it would be kinda trick to have a permanent step that stows away easily. I have discussed this with GXV and they are looking into incorporating this into future builds.

In response to your last question, yes, we have two solar panels on the roof.

Thanks,

Blackeye