A Nice Heavy Duty Camp "GRILL" Not a stove!! :)

[Boston Mangler]

Hey Guys

Been searching everywhere. Camp Chef, Partner Steel, etc...

I have a nice stove setup for the standard stuff, but my $15 target special hibachi is no longer with us! :(

I am looking for a nice quality portable Grill for cooking the cow, hotlinks, chicken, etc...

I have used this one recently and i was most impressed with the quality and will probably end up buying this one if i cant find anything else:

http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/FO-83722.htm

Its big and bulky, but its nicely made and good size.

Anyone know of any other options?

Thanks

[mtnbike28]

I just bought a cheap charcoal square portable grill at KMart. Very shallow with handles and folds over so it is half the height. (I left off the handle) I used it last week-end for hamburgers and hot dogs and it woked great. For less than $15, I plan to leave it in the trash if it get mangled and not feel bad.
I also carry a grate from a broken gas grill (they are everywhere on the side of the road right now) to stick over a fire or coals, when camping where open fires are allowed. Just a thought.

[loeky]

it looks like your a 'gas' man, but i picked this up about a year ago and it's seen a lot of use. the size is perfect for up to six people [burgers, chicken, tri tip, etc.] and can grill a whole side of salmon:

http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2631586&cp=1870035.1859072&parentPage=family

i like that the lid is attached and the shape can stand on end if need be. it's built like a **** brick house and cooks better than a mini coleman does - imho.

we'll see how it does on those triggerfish in baja. :chef:

[Boston Mangler]

Thanks Guys

Yeah, i have being using various type of charcoal and gas BBQ's for year and most only last a year or so, i grill ALOT when i travel!

I am looking for a high end, heavy duty, somewhat compact unit!

[Brian McVickers]

Hey Boston!

You may try Magma Grills
http://www.magmaproducts.com/Products/Marine_Products/Gas_Barbeque_2/Gourmet_Series_BBQ/Newport

The Force10 you mentioned and Magma are head to head competitors in the marine industry. I used to have one of the Kettle style magmas and was impressed with it. Only downside was the lid, but I believe the new style with a captive lid like the Force10 would be better.

Note that there are also trailer hitch receiver arm mounts that you can put the grill on!

Brian

[Green Ganesha]

How about the Snow Peak IGT Barbeque Box?

http://static.backcountry.com/images/items/large/SNO0056.jpg
http://www.backcountry.com/store/SNO0056

[Grim Reaper]

I am pretty partial to this $25 charcoal grill I got at Kroger. It is a drum that is maybe 8-9 inches in diameter. It folds open and you can stock both halves and end up with a 16x16 grilling surface. Once done just empty it out and latch it closed. Everybody that has seen it and used it went looking for them. Never seen them again.

Down side is i is not quick and you can't shut it off and go.

I have also been looking at some of the stainless marine grills as well as the Coleman road trip grills.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/ColemanCom/subcategory.asp?CategoryID=27203 http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11113177&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&N=4014040&Mo=9&pos=2&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=48808&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&ec=&topnav=

I like the fact that they come with a stand so I don't have to set it on the ground or take up table space. They have 20lb tank adaptors available so I can run one 20lb tank and run the grill lantern and I am hoping Zodi shower and tent heater off one big tank and not have to carry a half dozen little tanks.

This one also look interesting.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11170161&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&N=4014767&Mo=12&pos=1&No=10&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=49263&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&ec=&topnav=

[Bella PSD]

I saw this the other day at Dicks Sporting Goods
Dicks Gas grill (http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1980303&cp=712671&pg=1&sr=1&origkw=gas+grill&kw=gas+grill&parentPage=search&searchId=21158000801#1) with 187 sq-in of total cooking area
For $29 is not to bad.

Or this
Coleman Perfectflow Camp Grill Propane Stove (http://cgi.ebay.com/Coleman-Perfectflow-Camp-Grill-Propane-Stove-Camping-W_W0QQitemZ300111241386QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62117QQt cZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) with 200 sq-in of total cooking area
For $43 shipped

Louie

I just re-read your post and you asked about Heavy Duty...the links above are more on the "less expensive" side but still may hold up ok?

[Schattenjager]

I use a Weber kettle - small one - and put a propane burner inside to get the coals going no matter the weather. The gas setup is good by itself, but sometimes you just gotta have coals. You can get all the stuff to do this at Home Depot. I line the bottom with foil so cleanup is super easy - no drippings and not much ash to deal with. While in transit I store the fresh coals and gas inside the grill along with the other cooking bits. As I write this the thought hit me that I should get an H2O proof bag at REI to store it / carry it in - just to keep things tidy all around.

I really like this setup because the shape is conducive to strength, it cooks great - gas makes startup a no brainer - no matter the weather - and cleanup is the best of any portable grill I have used.

[Boston Mangler]

I saw this the other day at Dicks Sporting Goods
Dicks Gas grill (http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1980303&cp=712671&pg=1&sr=1&origkw=gas+grill&kw=gas+grill&parentPage=search&searchId=21158000801#1) with 187 sq-in of total cooking area
For $29 is not to bad.

Or this
Coleman Perfectflow Camp Grill Propane Stove (http://cgi.ebay.com/Coleman-Perfectflow-Camp-Grill-Propane-Stove-Camping-W_W0QQitemZ300111241386QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62117QQt cZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) with 200 sq-in of total cooking area
For $43 shipped


Thanks Louie

Yes, i have actually owned and used both of these. The ones from Dicks is a great unit and is the one that just gave up ghost on me.

The coleman one is ok, but i usually cook stuff that is marinated or dripping lots of juices, makes a HUGE mess and the way that thing is designed makes it quite a chore to clean!

Thanks

If i could find a Super Duty version of the Dicks unit made of stainless, that would be ideal!

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Hi Kevin,

I'm no BBQ king....and not exactly sure what you are looking for.

I've seen this one at WallyWorld when I walk through to go get oil and stuff.

It's an el cheapo price.....but looks very functional. I like the handles.....stand.....extra lift up grill/warmer space.....and the latches. Look! It even has a built in clicker/lighter thingy!

This could get you by until you find the perfect one!:chowtime:


http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5280782


http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/72/86/49/27/0072864927007_500X500.jpg


I just did a quick search and found this site.

I wonder if searching for "marine" and "RV" styles will give you better quality and be more rugged.

Seems like some good quality stainless stuff.

http://www.bbqs2go.com/


http://www.bbqs2go.com/pages/images/SBQsq-S.jpg


Sea-B-Que Propane Barbeque
SBQ-S
These barbeques are excellent in design and application. Manufactured in North America of high-grade 20 gauge 304 stainless steel in an octangonal shape, the Classic Sea-B-Que provides both strength and rigidity. Handles attached to the rollaway top allow for effortless opening and closing even when the barbecue is hot. The design prevents flame out in the windiest of conditions.
Dimensions: 9-1/4"x16"

Manufacturer's retail price: $289.04
Our Guaranteed Lowest Price: $199.95


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[Desertdude]

I have the Magma Catalina (http://www.magmabbq.com/CatalinaGrill.htm) its killer - just a bit large for travel ( but not too large) it is solid and continues to work well after 3 years - had to buy a new regulator... BBQ is pricey!

the other contender I own is similar to this portable grillware (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=6860-46487-GST1811&lpage=none) ( mine is a model older)

the burner is hot not as even as the Magma but for the money and small size it can't be beat... :chowtime:

[calamaridog]

Lowes actually had a decent selection of portable propane grills last time I was there, like the one linked by the Dude.

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I'll try to do some more searching for you Kevin....to see what turns up.

Maybe we can help you find something good........

Oh MY! What's This>?!!!!















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http://www.bbquepits.com/images/PORTABLE-TRAILER-BBQ-SMOKERS/30_portable_bbq_smoker_chrome/lake%20009.jpg


.......hehe:chowtime:


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[Boston Mangler]

Thanks Guys

All good leads! I appreciate it, the search continues and the results will be posted!

Thanks

[adventureduo]

I have to say.. im a bbq addict. I bbq just about every night.. (actually smoking some jerky today too)..

Anyhoo.. Kevin, go to your local BBG and pick up a Turbo Sport.

Oh, for the people that don't know grill talk.. that's Barbecues Galore.

You want the best of the best? It even has INFARED!!!


http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/286609


http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11011530880456.jpg

http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11593815897879.jpg

[Boston Mangler]

I have to say.. im a bbq addict. I bbq just about every night.. (actually smoking some jerky today too)..

Anyhoo.. Kevin, go to your local BBG and pick up a Turbo Sport.

You want the best of the best? It even has INFARED!!!

http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/286609

http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11011530880456.jpg

http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11593815897879.jpg

Ding Ding Ding, i think we have a winner!!

Looks good! However, what the hell is "infrared" cooking and how does it vary from flame? Is it similar to the old style rotisurrees? (spelling, HA)

Looks like drippings could easily get onto that infrared thingy! hmmmm

[Desertdude]

how long does a small bottle last on that turbo?

[Bella PSD]

How about the other portable grill they have at bbqgalore.com

http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/250258
Its less at $129 and folds up about the same as the $200 one.

Best part is, looks like you can get the same bbqgalore grill at Lowes for $105!!
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

Louie

[Boston Mangler]

How about the other portable grill they have at bbqgalore.com

http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/250258
Its less at $129 and folds up about the same as the $200 one.

Best part is, looks like you can get the same bbqgalore grill at Lowes for $105!!
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

Louie

Good Links!

Thanks Louie!

[Desertdude]

yup thats the one from Lowes - its not as even of a burner( cooking wise) but for the money - they we blowing them out for 79 bucks a few years back - I still have and use mine...



How about the other portable grill they have at bbqgalore.com

http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/250258
Its less at $129 and folds up about the same as the $200 one.

Best part is, looks like you can get the same bbqgalore grill at Lowes for $105!!
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

Louie

[spressomon]

I have to say.. im a bbq addict. I bbq just about every night.. (actually smoking some jerky today too)..

Anyhoo.. Kevin, go to your local BBG and pick up a Turbo Sport.

Oh, for the people that don't know grill talk.. that's Barbecues Galore.

You want the best of the best? It even has INFARED!!!


http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/286609


http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11011530880456.jpg

http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11593815897879.jpg




Bought one of these same BBQ's about a year ago...made by Solaire. Great little product and nearly indestructible. Started baking homemade pizza's in it the last 2-excursions...works great for this too! Next I am going to try cobbler to see how it works. Like anything of durable quality and good design they don't come cheap. And I have their collapsible tri-pod that works great too.

http://www.rasmussen.biz/grills/portG.html

[Boston Mangler]

Bought one of these same BBQ's about a year ago...made by Solaire. Great little product and nearly indestructible. Started baking homemade pizza's in it the last 2-excursions...works great for this too! Next I am going to try cobbler to see how it works. Like anything of durable quality and good design they don't come cheap. And I have their collapsible tri-pod that works great too.

http://www.rasmussen.biz/grills/portG.html

dude, that looks like the identical grill for 2x the $

[tdesanto]

I've been looking for a while now for a good portable grill.

I finally landed on this model. I found it at Sportsmans Warehouse for only $89.

Here's are links to get more information: http://smedia.vermotion.com/media/8547/resources/Volcano_Brochure_rev17.pdf

http://www.volcanostoves.com/100-200/Volcano_II_Collapsible_Stove_Volcano_II_Collapsibl e_Stove_Volcano_II_Collapsible_Stove.html

It's extremely rugged and versatile. It cooks for at least 1.5 hours on only 25 coals.

If you're into dutch oven cooking, you can even do that with this thing--a 12" dutch oven will actually fit down inside it.

It sets up in 1 second and breaks down in about 5 seconds. It's so easy.

I've been very happy with it. You can even convert it to propane if you must.

For me these were the selling points in the order of priority:
1. compact--it collapses to only 5" tall by 16" in diameter
2. rugged--more rugged than anything else I've looked into
3. Simple setup, breakdown, and cleaning--very fast to do all three.
4. Efficient, it has a special adjustable air chamber that draws air underneath the coals so that they burn evenly for a long time...very similar to the Weber kettle, if you've ever used one of those.

About the only drawback that I could find was that it doesn't have a lid for smoking meats and it's a little small compared to my home grill, but hey--it's portable!

I've taken this on several trips lately. Let me know if you have any questions.

Good luck on the search,

TD

[hoser]

dude, that looks like the identical grill for 2x the $Here's another Solaire Knock-off (http://www.heartlandamerica.com/browse/item.asp?PIN=19282&#) for $149 and free shipping. However, this is not the same grill as the Solaire. The Solaire grill is 304 Stainless and is made in the USA. The $149 grill is "imported" from Taiwan and does not mention what grade of stainless steel. The Solaire has gotten rave reviews and the $149 grill has been reviewed as "dangerous." I've been eyeballing the Solaire too. I just haven't pulled out the wallet yet. I wish I could buy the Solaire for $149.

Some more reading about Solaire Knock-offs. (http://www.rasmussen.biz/grills/anycopy.html)

If you have one of the BBQ Galore's Turbo Sport Grills, you might want to read this recall. (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/2006/barbeque_galore.html)

[Boston Mangler]

Here's another Solaire Knock-off (http://www.heartlandamerica.com/browse/item.asp?PIN=19282&#) for $149 and free shipping. However, this is not the same grill as the Solaire. The Solaire grill is 304 Stainless and is made in the USA. The $149 grill is "imported" from Taiwan and does not mention what grade of stainless steel. The Solaire has gotten rave reviews and the $149 grill has been reviewed as "dangerous." I've been eyeballing the Solaire too. I just haven't pulled out the wallet yet. I wish I could buy the Solaire for $149.

Some more reading about Solaire Knock-offs. (http://www.rasmussen.biz/grills/anycopy.html)

If you have one of the BBQ Galore's Turbo Sport Grills, you might want to read this recall. (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/2006/barbeque_galore.html)

Holy Crap! Thanks for the heads up!

Here i am getting all excited and such! :(

[hoser]

Boston, I found this deal (http://www.patiofurniturecovers.com/solaire-portable-grill.html) on the Solaire!

$286.50 shipped and no tax outside of Indiana. Tempting.

[Dmarchand]

Hey Guys

Been searching everywhere. Camp Chef, Partner Steel, etc...

I have a nice stove setup for the standard stuff, but my $15 target special hibachi is no longer with us! :(

I am looking for a nice quality portable Grill for cooking the cow, hotlinks, chicken, etc...

I have used this one recently and i was most impressed with the quality and will probably end up buying this one if i cant find anything else:

http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/FO-83722.htm

Its big and bulky, but its nicely made and good size.

Anyone know of any other options?

Thanks

Funny you mention this particular Grille. Lowe's was selling this grille (older model) two years ago and I picked it up (re-labeled). It is the exact same design and all stainless. Terrifc.

http://www.jamilabbasy.com/galleries/adventures/wema_2006/_w5w3967_std.jpg

[Desertdude]

good info on the infared cooking - thanks

http://www.patiofurniturecovers.com/infrared-grilling.html

[Beowulf]

Here is a jeep branded version.

http://www.allthingsjeep.com/kng36-jxgril.html

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/allthingsjeep_1946_25728199


http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/allthingsjeep_1946_25766987

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/allthingsjeep_1946_25700205

[Boston Mangler]

good info on the infared cooking - thanks

http://www.patiofurniturecovers.com/infrared-grilling.html

Thanks Dude!

Very interesting! The cogs are turning!
:)

[hoser]

These infrared grills seem to be great at searing and cooking steaks and such but they are criticized as being less than optimal for food/meat that is slow cooked like chicken. I have a Wolf infrared chargrill at home that comes with a metal plate that is placed over the infrared element (covers about 50% of the surface) for cooking more "delicate" food. It does help.

[Boston Mangler]

These infrared grills seem to be great at searing and cooking steaks and such but they are criticized as being less than optimal for food/meat that is slow cooked like chicken. I have a Wolf infrared chargrill at home that comes with a metal plate that is placed over the infrared element (covers about 50% of the surface) for cooking more "delicate" food. It does help.

Ahhh

Good to know Hoser!

I tend to cook a lot of different things, often hot italian sausages which need to be cooked on really low flame for awhile to come out perfect!

You know how many times i have shooed guys away from my grill trying to turn UP the flame! HA!

I use the "Low Heat, Flip Often" method when cooking steaks, i dont like it crunchy on the outside!

Its funny, in my circle of friends we all have our own little "BBQ Methods" and constantly razz each others on whos is best! Truth is, all are good! :wings:

Seems i do most of the cooking though!

:chowtime: :steak: :chef:

So...... When is the "First Annual Expedition Portal Grill-Off" ?????

[hoser]

Well, hopefully Spressomon will chime in. He's the only one I know who actually owns a Solaire Infrared grill. If he can cook homemade pizzas on it, then I would think it can slow cook chicken or sausages.

ExPo Grill off? I don't know if I could compete with some of these chefs but I sure would like to be a judge! =)

[PhulesAU]

Be Warned.... God knows I really like food :wings: , But judging a cook-off almost takes the fun out of it.

[xcmountain80]

I'll be the first to tell you I'm skeptic when it comes to "usable" camping equipment. A few years ago my in laws purchased "The Q grill" for my wife and I. At first glance I was like ok what the heck am I supposed to do with this turd. So with my adventurous spirit I fired it up "small propane tank" and to my amazement it seemed to be a well built little unit. I have since used it on multiple camping trips and outings. The design is simple and it looks like a alien space craft when set up. http://www.thane.com/products/housewares/qgrill/qgrill.php
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/Found%20Stuff/q-animatedsmall.gif
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/xcmountain/Found%20Stuff/qgrillpic2_22.jpg

Aaron

[xcmountain80]

Hmm after I posted this I looked at their website and it had a few people asking for them to bring it back because they need parts or accessories. So I said huh? why did they take it away. So I looked it up on e-pinions with a sneaking suspicion something was wrong. I was right there was a 50/50 split on customers who like it "me" and others who had the unit catch on fire! Damn I guess I need to look at mine and well replace it at best.

Aaron

[Desertdude]

Funny it says on the site


SORRY!
Unfortunately, this product is no longer available. However, we still have a bunch of Q Grill Accessories in stock and you can order these in the box below. We apologize for the inconveniece.



[edit] posted right after your info :)

[xcmountain80]

Funny it says on the site


SORRY!
Unfortunately, this product is no longer available. However, we still have a bunch of Q Grill Accessories in stock and you can order these in the box below. We apologize for the inconveniece.



[edit] posted right after your info :)

Now Im kinda leery! Of using the darn thing, though would be interesting if it caught on fire.

Aaron

[Desertdude]

Now Im kinda leery! Of using the darn thing, though would be interesting if it caught on fire.

Aaron

be sure to roll the video camera when it does ;)

[xcmountain80]

You bet!

Aaron

[spressomon]

Well, hopefully Spressomon will chime in. He's the only one I know who actually owns a Solaire Infrared grill. If he can cook homemade pizzas on it, then I would think it can slow cook chicken or sausages.

ExPo Grill off? I don't know if I could compete with some of these chefs but I sure would like to be a judge! =)



I have cooked kabobs, lamb racks, burgers, steaks and now baked pizzas (next I'm going to try Andy's cobbler recipe). It works great. You can adjust the "burner" down if needed. The only nit I have is when trying to get lit and stay lit until it gets hot, in a windy environment...but now that I know I just move the grill to the leeward side of my trailer/LC :) .

The tripod is not as tough as the speaker stands (Ultimate brand???...DD you know what I'm talking about here) pro bands/musicians use (the plastic pieces aren't made from as durable of material)...but I still like it!

[Beowulf]

Ultimate also makes the best bike stand on earth. It is just like the speaker stands but with a super trick bike clamp on top.

The Parker is one very nice, but expensive little portable grill.

https://ssl2.chi.us.securedata.net/parker-grill.com/grill.html


https://ssl2.chi.us.securedata.net/parker-grill.com/images/grill_03.jpg

[spressomon]

Ultimate also makes the best bike stand on earth. It is just like the speaker stands but with a super trick bike clamp on top.

The Parker is one very nice, but expensive little portable grill.

https://ssl2.chi.us.securedata.net/parker-grill.com/grill.html


https://ssl2.chi.us.securedata.net/parker-grill.com/images/grill_03.jpg


I have had their bike stand for 15-years...it is tough and works great!

[Desertdude]

The tripod is not as tough as the speaker stands (Ultimate brand???...DD you know what I'm talking about here) pro bands/musicians use (the plastic pieces aren't made from as durable of material)...but I still like it!


Yes I do Dave... sounds like a great BBQ I guess we might see it in action at SnT 07 ?

[spressomon]

Yes I do Dave... sounds like a great BBQ I guess we might see it in action at SnT 07 ?


Henry...er Pasquale...Dan here.:REOutArchery02: had it at SnT 06...where were YOU?

[Desertdude]

Ha! sorry Dave, er I mean Dan... :oops:

I did not have the chance to hang with you in your private area last year, so I missed the BBQ :chowtime:

[spressomon]

Ha! sorry Dave, er I mean Dan... :oops:

I did not have the chance to hang with you in your private area last year, so I missed the BBQ :chowtime:



Private? Shart it sure seemed public enough to me :shakin:

You're gonna have to schedule some Silver State time...and bring that 20-person wok of yours!

[Desertdude]

Private? Shart it sure seemed public enough to me

It was beach front property for a while...

[mk4]

It seems as though a small debate has surfaced over "gas v. coal."

Not to distract from the Flay v. McDonald discussion, but for expedition purposes, propane is my personal preference.

Most portable propane (gas) grills don't provide the btu output for high dry-direct heat cooking, but experienced cooks can learn to deal with this. You can cook a kick-*** steak on a Weber Go Anywhere grill, but its best use is for items such as burgers, sausages and chicken. In addition many of us employ some form of propane system (lanterns, stoves, bulk propane) and the grill is simply just another member of the family.

Plus who wants to wait for coals or the additional baggage of bringing a sack of coals and the cost of propane is pretty damn cheap.

[spressomon]

Plus who wants to wait for coals or the additional baggage of bringing a sack of coals and the cost of propane is pretty damn cheap.


Fast and clean too! FYI: The Solaire will cook faster than I typically want it to...I , after preheating for just 5-minutes, need to throttle it down after both sides are seared (meat).

[hoser]

Somebody was nice enough to get me a Solaire as a gift! :wings: :chowtime:

[spressomon]

Somebody was nice enough to get me a Solaire as a gift! :wings: :chowtime:


Nice! What: You're birthday? What are you going to cook/grill first?

[hoser]

Wedding gift! Hmm, I think I'll start off with some ribeye's to test it's searing capabilities, then move on to more "delicate" food. I'm curious to see how evenly it heats.

[rusty_tlc]

I have this grill they are sold at Walmart for around $30. I originally thought it would last one season but it's three years old and still in good shape. The warming rack is a great feature. And it latches closed. Around here charcoal cooking is often banned so gas is a better option, plus you can grill up hot dogs or burgers for lunch with very little drama.

[spressomon]

I have this grill they are sold at Walmart for around $30. I originally thought it would last one season but it's three years old and still in good shape. The warming rack is a great feature. And it latches closed. Around here charcoal cooking is often banned so gas is a better option, plus you can grill up hot dogs or burgers for lunch with very little drama.



...and marshmallows!

[gjackson]

This is the only grill you need. Course you got to have that series rover that's attached to it. . .

cheers

[paulj]

I don't know if I have any business talking about something that is no longer made, but for compactness it is hard to beat the Pyromid. It folding stainless steel grill that packs into a unit 1" thick. I've been using the 12" model on and off for years.

It is designed to work on 9 briquettes, though I usually through in a few more around the corners. Curiously, while looking up references on the web I found instructions on how to use the briquettes in other arrangements for longer, lower heat. I'll have to experiment with it some more.

I've also been experimenting with a 10" aluminum dutch oven, but that is another thread.

http://www.pyromid.net/oldsite/index.html
http://www.pyromid.net/oldsite/art/p_pyromidstove.GIF

[calamaridog]

Boston, I found this deal (http://www.patiofurniturecovers.com/solaire-portable-grill.html) on the Solaire!

$286.50 shipped and no tax outside of Indiana. Tempting.


That is still the best price I can find.

I think this thing may be an ideal camp grill and now I want one too.

You can cut your chicken in half since it cooks fast or use kaboobs and such:chowtime:

[overlander]

This is the only grill you need. Course you got to have that series rover that's attached to it. . .

cheers

Graham,
I don't know if anybody else caught your tongue-in-cheek comment, but that's what the hell I'm talking about! KISS principle rules. Muddy Oval all the way.

[rusty_tlc]

I just found a picture in my photobucket that needs to be in this thread.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/Belmont%205_07/DSCN2161.jpg

[Tucson T4R]

I just found a picture in my photobucket that needs to be in this thread.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/Belmont%205_07/DSCN2161.jpg


And if you hadn't just jumped on it and wolfed it down when it was done, you could have gotten a nice picture of it with the cheese nicley melted and crust lightly browned.:chowtime: :shakin:

[rusty_tlc]

That was Spressomons dinner, he shared tasters with everybody though.:wings:

BTW wife and I agreed it was better than any take out we had had in recent memory.

[calamaridog]

Best part is, looks like you can get the same bbqgalore grill at Lowes for $105!!
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

Louie


http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

I bought one of these yesterday at Lowes. It was only $58. As much as I want a Solaire, I could not justify the almost $300 price tag right now. I have too much maitenance coming up to spend that sort of money on a grill.

[Desertdude]

I have one of those for camping and it works amazingly well for such a low price tag - solid SS build good heat and control.

[calamaridog]

I have one of those for camping and it works amazingly well for such a low price tag - solid SS build good heat and control.

At $58, it's a great buy. Even though it is made in China;)

[hoser]

That is a great deal! Just be aware the type of stainless steel they use is susceptible to rusting. So try not to leave it out in the rain.

[ckkone]

Looking at grills is fun:

https://ssl2.chi.us.securedata.net/parker-grill.com/images/17.jpg
The Parker (https://ssl2.chi.us.securedata.net/parker-grill.com/index.html)

http://www.devonsuperstore.com/images/DTFTG.jpg
The Devon (http://www.devonsuperstore.com/detail.aspx?ID=107)

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WZDF6NK4L._SS500_.jpg
The TEC Cherokee (http://www.amazon.com/TEC-Cherokee-Portable-Infrared-Grill/dp/B0002I4FKQ)

http://www.napoleongrills.com/Webshare/Gourmet-grills/Freestyle_images/Freestyle_Food.jpg
The Napoleon (http://www.amroyal.com/index.php?cmd=product&item=13984)

[ckkone]

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

I bought one of these yesterday at Lowes. It was only $58. As much as I want a Solaire, I could not justify the almost $300 price tag right now. I have too much maitenance coming up to spend that sort of money on a grill.

Holy crap $58, I'm going to Lowes tonight!

[calamaridog]

That is a great deal! Just be aware the type of stainless steel they use is susceptible to rusting. So try not to leave it out in the rain.

This thing is definitely on the cheaper side but at that price it will serve me well for a few years. I was lusting after the Solaire but I also need TONS of stuff for my truck:(

[calamaridog]

Holy crap $58, I'm going to Lowes tonight!

I'm going to break it in Sunday:chowtime:

[IZZYDUSIT]

I've looked at the Solair and the bbqgalore models- they looked identical!
same China factory????????????
I bought the bbqgalore a year ago- works fantastic!
sears steaks like right now!!

[hoser]

The Solaire is made in the USA. Take a magnet to your grill. If it sticks, it uses a lesser grade Stainless Steel. Great if you are happy with the knockoff. Not many people want to spend $300 on a little grill. In either case, the grill design works well for reducing flare-ups.

[AndrewP]

For those with the Solaire--How does it do in wind?

It looks like a really great unit. Spresso and Hoser are you guys still sold on it?

I ask, because for years I have been frustrated with grills going out in a wind, or even a breeze. Any thoughts?

[gage092879]

i have the toolbox grill. cheap, compact, easy to find. does me fine for what i need to do. cheers

[spressomon]

For those with the Solaire--How does it do in wind?

It looks like a really great unit. Spresso and Hoser are you guys still sold on it?

I ask, because for years I have been frustrated with grills going out in a wind, or even a breeze. Any thoughts?


I PM'd you on MUD. The design, once the ceramic burner is glowing and hot is impervious to wind based upon my experiences. Like all gas/propane grills they are really designed to be used with the lid in the closed position. However due to the fact this little grill has plenty of btu output it is necessary to open/prop the lid open when you want a lower grill temp (sausages, thicker chops).

Another trick I use: Sear the thicker cuts of meat/chops/sausages and then lay down a 2x/3x thick piece of HD foil and finish by pseudo roasting...

And this little grill makes GREAT pizzas!!!

[hoser]

I have yet to use mine in high winds but here are my thoughts about the Solaire so far...

-Sears meats great, like no other portable gas grill I've had but like Spresso said, low temperature cooking requires some foil or an aluminum sheet
-Heats evenly across the grill--much better than my Coleman with the single tube burner
-Fit and finish are very good. Unit is a bit bulky for the amount of cooking surface
-If not stored upright, the burner can pop out of place on rough roads
-The last time I used it, I preheated the grill on high and the regulator froze causing heat output to be low. Had to turn-off and warm regulator before I could use again.
-Must remember to keep burner on for 5-10 minutes after cooking to burn off grease/food bits otherwise it can clog the ceramic burner

[AndrewP]

Thanks guys for the replies. Dan-I returned your PM on ih8mud-thanks.

The Parker that was referenced here looks pretty good as well.

Re-the high heat-I sort of figure its a grill, not an oven, so I'd be prepared to deal with that.

I'd love to see one in person, so if either of you are in the Sac area, or if I get to the Reno area, I'd love to check it out, hook it up to my bulk tank etc.

[spressomon]

What is the burner type in the Parker? I went to their website but very limited information about it...

I don't have any immediate plans to be on the West side of the hill Andy but if you're going to be in Reno you're welcome to check my Solaire out.

It really does a great job on pizzas! I, as an experiment, during our Nevada Ghost/Mining Town made a couple pizzas...they turned out great. So as long as you buffer the heat from the ceramic burner with foil it actually works for baking (pizzas anyway ;-))

[TACODOC]

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none



I like this model. So far this seems to be the best balance of price and value.

SS is ideal for expedition camp cooking gear IMO.

[TACODOC]

I got one of these tonight at Lowe's for $54 out the door!

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

After looking at it up close, it is identical to the Devon except for the handle and the price... the Devon is $139.99!

http://www.devonsuperstore.com/images/DTFTG.jpg
The Devon (http://www.devonsuperstore.com/detail.aspx?ID=107)

[hoser]

Andrew, I'm down in SF so if you are ever down this way, you are welcome to check out my Solaire grill. Or, if you want, I can snap some high resolution photos of the internals as well.

I found this review on the Parker (http://www99.epinions.com/content_375949004420). It sounds like a well made, high quality grill. They advertise a baffled air intake which might address concerns of use in high winds. To me, it looks like it would be good for cooking chicken or food that is likely to flare up. It has a tube burner that runs the length of the grill and has two vaporizer plates over the burner. Sounds good for chicken but not so good searing.

The Napoleon Grill above looks pretty nice too. Like the Solaire, it also has the IR type burner and supposedly can heat up to 1100 degrees on the cooking surface. Lots of cooking area but the outside dimensions are getting quite large too. 16x16x26

[benedmonson]

I have to say.. im a bbq addict. I bbq just about every night.. (actually smoking some jerky today too)..

Anyhoo.. Kevin, go to your local BBG and pick up a Turbo Sport.

Oh, for the people that don't know grill talk.. that's Barbecues Galore.

You want the best of the best? It even has INFARED!!!


http://www.bbqgalore.com/gas_grills/portable/286609


http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11011530880456.jpg

http://www.bbqgalore.com/images/product/640/img11593815897879.jpg


I just read on the www.bbqgalore.com site that this grill is made of the 304 stainless that is the best quality for grills, not sure of where it is made? I'm most likely ordering this one tomorrow based on the reviews. It seems that the regulator problem was fixed a few years ago with a recall. I think this would work for on the trail and at home for my wife and I. I love a rare seared steak!!!

[rusty_tlc]

What is the burner type in the Parker? I went to their website but very limited information about it...

I don't have any immediate plans to be on the West side of the hill Andy but if you're going to be in Reno you're welcome to check my Solaire out.

It really does a great job on pizzas! I, as an experiment, during our Nevada Ghost/Mining Town made a couple pizzas...they turned out great. So as long as you buffer the heat from the ceramic burner with foil it actually works for baking (pizzas anyway ;-))
Them was some good eats. And that is a slick grill.

[p1michaud]

Well I looked for a bit then did some searching on the net and found this link: Top 10 Small Grills (http://bbq.about.com/od/grills/tp/aatp042206a.htm).

I'll let you read what grills from this list made the top 10... :shakin:

I'm gettting hungry now!

[Tucson T4R]

Out of those top 10, the Solaire is the only one that apeals to me for packing and camping. Maybe Santa will be nice to me this year. :wings:

[cell4soul]

This one is a well built peice of equipment with 15,000 BTU and purchasing one supports the business of other Expo members. They can be purchased with 2 or 3 burners. With the all Aluminum case, rust will never be an issue;

http://adventuretrailers.com/accessories.html

Scroll down about half the page or so; I've seen this one and it is a great peice of equipment. I will get one, but there are other mods to spend money on first. Now if I could just find more time and more money.

[AndrewP]

This one is a well built peice of equipment with 15,000 BTU and purchasing one supports the business of other Expo members. They can be purchased with 2 or 3 burners. With the all Aluminum case, rust will never be an issue;

http://adventuretrailers.com/accessories.html

Scroll down about half the page or so; I've seen this one and it is a great peice of equipment. I will get one, but there are other mods to spend money on first. Now if I could just find more time and more money.

But that's a stove, though a really nice one!

(We're talkin' grills here...):chowtime:

[cell4soul]

But that's a stove, though a really nice one!

(We're talkin' grills here...):chowtime:

HaHa, I got so wrapped up in reading this thread that I forgot the title....
it says grill, as you just pointed out. I guess I've just been wanting that stove for quite a while.

[adventureduo]

Thanks to Yosh... my Christmas present is coming early today... UPS man should be here with this..

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/186925.jpg

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=YM1LR41QTWIFRLAQBBICCO3MCAEFCI WE?id=0042356517509a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0470104&cm_ite=0042356517509a&_requestid=75074

:wings:

[Green Ganesha]

But that's a stove ... We're talkin' grills here

OK, stupid-sounding question: what exactly defines the difference between a gas stove and a gas grill? Is it the linear-vs.-circular arrangement of burner jets? Is it the grilling surface (because you can always lay a grill grate on top of a stove)?

[spressomon]

OK, stupid-sounding question: what exactly defines the difference between a gas stove and a gas grill? Is it the linear-vs.-circular arrangement of burner jets? Is it the grilling surface (because you can always lay a grill grate on top of a stove)?


A gas stove is something you use with pots/pans. A grill is something you typcially cook your food directly over the heat source without pots/pans (think Weber "grill"; "charcoal grill").

[Green Ganesha]

A gas stove is something you use with pots/pans. A grill is something you typcially cook your food directly over the heat source without pots/pans (think Weber "grill"; "charcoal grill").

I get that part, but I guess what I'm wondering is what prevents using one as both? If we're talking about gas grills (as opposed to charcoal), why couldn't you grill on a stove—assuming the grate spacing was tight enough to support your food? Is it the different configuration of burners? Or the element of dripping grease?

Maybe a better question would be: why couldn't a grill double as a stove?

[Tucson T4R]

A grill could double as a stove but the heat is spread out and not focused like a stove burner so it would not be very efficient.

If you tried grilling meat over a stove, the drippings would collect on the stove top and make a terrible mess. Grills are designed to catch and burn off those drippings. Also the stove burners are focused circles so you would have two small heat hot areas and nothing anywhere else.

[cell4soul]

Thanks to Yosh... my Christmas present is coming early today... UPS man should be here with this..

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/186925.jpg

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=YM1LR41QTWIFRLAQBBICCO3MCAEFCI WE?id=0042356517509a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0470104&cm_ite=0042356517509a&_requestid=75074

:wings:

Congrats, looks like a nice grill......kinda makes me hungry, that burger looks good even though it's breakfast time.........gotta go eat now.

[paulj]

Korean groceries sell butane hotplates and grills - intended for dining table grilling. The less expensive grill is a ceramic 'shield' that fits over flame, providing sloped sides for cooking thinnely sliced meat. Metal versions may have slots to provide more direct contact with the hot gasses.

http://www.kgrocer.com/ProductImages/kitchen_ware/KWARE-BBQ_GRILL_SQUARE-36cmx30cm_2.jpg
http://www.kgrocer.com/ProductImages/kitchen_ware/KWARE-PTBL_GASSTOVE-LGOLD_2.jpg
http://www.kgrocer.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=600

[rusty_tlc]

I get that part, but I guess what I'm wondering is what prevents using one as both? If we're talking about gas grills (as opposed to charcoal), why couldn't you grill on a stove—assuming the grate spacing was tight enough to support your food? Is it the different configuration of burners? Or the element of dripping grease?

Maybe a better question would be: why couldn't a grill double as a stove?
It works the other way pretty well. I've laid my griddle on the gas Grill and made some killer fajitas (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6541&highlight=griddle). I've also used it to fry stuff in a pan, but this doesn't work as well because the burner arrangement is the wrong shape. Coffee takes forever to perc on the gas grill.
Since you can cook decent meals with only a gas grill I usually take it and add a small hiking stove for coffee and heating wash water. This cuts down the volume of gear which is a big deal in the FJ40. In the UZJ100 I just throw in both a grill and a two burner stove.

[Green Ganesha]

It works the other way pretty well. I've laid my griddle on the gas Grill and made some killer fajitas (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6541&highlight=griddle). I've also used it to fry stuff in a pan, but this doesn't work as well because the burner arrangement is the wrong shape. Coffee takes forever to perc on the gas grill.
Since you can cook decent meals with only a gas grill I usually take it and add a small hiking stove for coffee and heating wash water. This cuts down the volume of gear which is a big deal in the FJ40. In the UZJ100 I just throw in both a grill and a two burner stove.

Those fajitas do look mouth-wateringly good.

Thanks for the feedback. I asked because all the campsite grilling I've done has been either over a charcoal or wood fire, or on a cast-iron griddle laid across my propane stove. (Fat run-off has always been a problem with the griddle.) This discussion prompted me to wonder whether a dedicated propane camping grill would be a worthwhile addition.

[Green Ganesha]

Thanks to Yosh... my Christmas present is coming early today... UPS man should be here with this..

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/186925.jpg

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=YM1LR41QTWIFRLAQBBICCO3MCAEFCI WE?id=0042356517509a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0470104&cm_ite=0042356517509a&_requestid=75074

:wings:

For anyone contemplating the same purchase, I just noticed that Costco.com has that Igloo grill for $89.99 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11204938) ($10 cheaper than Cabela's sale price).

[Photog]

The Solaire is made in the USA. Take a magnet to your grill. If it sticks, it uses a lesser grade Stainless Steel. Great if you are happy with the knockoff. Not many people want to spend $300 on a little grill. In either case, the grill design works well for reducing flare-ups.

The "magnet trick" does not indicate good or bad stainless quality.

Austinetic Stainless Steel (300 series) is non-magnetic, because the micro-structure of the iron is face-centered cubic.

Ferritic and Martensitic Stainless Steel (400 series) are magnetic, because the micro-structure of the iron is body-centered cubic. Pull out your pocket knife (likely 440 stainless), and check it with a magnet.

[Photog]

I just read on the www.bbqgalore.com site that this grill is made of the 304 stainless that is the best quality for grills, not sure of where it is made?

Why do you believe 304 Stainless is better for a grill? (Not a sarcastic question, just wondering)

Edit: I went to their website - THEY believe 304 is the best for grills. They also believe the lower number (304 instead of 430) is higher quality. THEY ARE WRONG. It isn't a quality issue. The two types are just different. The 304 is easier to bend and form and weld, making it cheaper to manufacture grills; but it is not as strong. The 430 has trouble when heated in the 850 F range. You might not want 430 SS for the actual grill surface; but it would be great for the rest of the box. In reality, there is no real difference, for this application.

[Photog]

As for the "Camp Grills", this is an absolutely great thread.:wings:

I have never seen so many SS grills in my life. The IR system seems to be the least messy, because all the drippings get burned off. Are any of the other grills particularly easy to keep clean?

[Clark White]

Being a little cheep, little short on space, and a little old fashioned, I carry a Coleman two burner stove, and a grill (just the grate part) off a charcoal grill. I cook anything needing a pot/pan on the Coleman, and I prop up the grill on three or four big stones over the camp fire that I have (not camping with out a fire! :camping: ). I cook all my meat on the grill. I either get lots of coals and push them off the side to cook, or I just cook right over the open flame, get a char broiled kinda thing going :chowtime:

[spressomon]

Being a little cheep, little short on space, and a little old fashioned, I carry a Coleman two burner stove, and a grill (just the grate part) off a charcoal grill. I cook anything needing a pot/pan on the Coleman, and I prop up the grill on three or four big stones over the camp fire that I have (not camping with out a fire! :camping: ). I cook all my meat on the grill. I either get lots of coals and push them off the side to cook, or I just cook right over the open flame, get a char broiled kinda thing going :chowtime:


Yep...it's all about the end result. Whatever works to get tasty food!

[hoser]

The "magnet trick" does not indicate good or bad stainless quality.

Austinetic Stainless Steel (300 series) is non-magnetic, because the micro-structure of the iron is face-centered cubic.

Ferritic and Martensitic Stainless Steel (400 series) are magnetic, because the micro-structure of the iron is body-centered cubic. Pull out your pocket knife (likely 440 stainless), and check it with a magnet.Perhaps "lesser grade" wasn't most accurate but for purposes of this thread, 400 series stainless steel has less rust resistance than 300 series SS and therefore it is LESS desirable for grills. Keepin' it simple. Non-magnetic=good for grill use. Magnetic=bad for grill use. Of course, there are also other factors such as material thickness and finish.

[calamaridog]

For anyone contemplating the same purchase, I just noticed that Costco.com has that Igloo grill for $89.99 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11204938) ($10 cheaper than Cabela's sale price).

The same exact grill I bought for $59 at Lowes;)

[Photog]

Perhaps "lesser grade" wasn't most accurate but for purposes of this thread, 400 series stainless steel has less rust resistance than 300 series SS and therefore it is LESS desirable for grills. Keepin' it simple. Non-magnetic=good for grill use. Magnetic=bad for grill use. Of course, there are also other factors such as material thickness and finish.

Hoser, I'm flaming the grill companies here, not you. The grill companies have good marketing material to sell their grills; but they are not always truthful, and they put a lot of mis-information out there. As stated before, the difference between the 304 & 430 is not measurable, for this application. I don't want folks to run away from a good stove or grill, because it is made from 430, and not 304 SS.

More important issues would be: Did they heat treat it after welding. If not, there is a high possibility of corrosion along the heat-affeced zone (HAZ). The corrosion properties of the SS are modified in the HAZ.

Here is more info on the 304 & 430 series SS. Both of these SS grades are used in the food industry, for different purposes.

Check out the info on 304 & 430. The others are just FYI.

Type 304
The most common of austenitic grades, containing approximately 18% chromium and 8% nickel. It is used for chemical processing equipment, for food, dairy, and beverage industries, for heat exchangers, and for the milder chemicals.

Type 316
Contains 16% to 18% chromium and 11% to 14% nickel. It also has molybdenum added to the nickel and chrome of the 304. The molybdenum is used to control pit type attack. Type 316 is used in chemical processing, the pulp and paper industry, for food and beverage processing and dispensing and in the more corrosive environments. The molybdenum must be a minimum of 2%.

Type 317
Contains a higher percentage of molybdenum than 316 for highly corrosive environments. It must have a minimum of 3% “moly”. It is often used in stacks which contain scrubbers.

Type 317L
Restricts maximum carbon content to 0.030% max. and silicon to 0.75% max. for extra corrosion resistance.

Type 317LM
Requires molybdenum content of 4.00% min.

Type 317LMN
Requires molybdenum content of 4.00% min. and nitrogen of .15% min.

Type 321

Type 347
These types have been developed for corrosive resistance for repeated intermittent exposure to temperature above 800 degrees F. Type 321 is made by the addition of titanium and Type 347 is made by the addition of tantalum/columbium. These grades are primarily used in the aircraft industry.



Type 430
The basic ferritic grade, with a little less corrosion resistance than Type 304. This type combines high resistance to such corrosives as nitric acid, sulfur gases, and many organic and food acids.

Type 405
Has lower chromium and added aluminum to prevent hardening when cooled from high temperatures. Typical applications include heat exchangers.

Type 409
Contains the lowest chromium content of all stainless steels and is also the least expensive. Originally designed for muffler stock and also used for exterior parts in non-critical corrosive environments.

Type 434
Has molybdenum added for improved corrosion resistance. Typical applications include automotive trim and fasteners.

Type 436
Type 436 has columbium added for corrosion and heat resistance. Typical applications include deep-drawn parts.

Type 442
Has increased chromium to improve scaling resistance. Typical applications include furnace and heater parts.

Type 446
Contains even more chromium added to further improve corrosion and scaling resistance at high temperatures. Especially good for oxidation resistance in sulfuric atmospheres.

[Photog]

Based on all the previous posts, there are a few "Nice heavy duty camp grills" (originl post request). Those of you that have had or have used many grills, which ones are easiest to maintain and clean up after use? This would make more difference to me, on the trail. I don't want to be puting a dripping greasy mess back in my rig, or sticking it in a carry bag, that gets rancid in a couple weeks.

[spressomon]

Although I haven't tested a fleet of different compact barbies for comparison my Solaire's ceramic catalytic style 'burner' is pretty darn good at vaporizing fat...better than my $$$ home patio bbq.

However that's not to say there is zero residue. I drop it into a 42 gallon 3-mil HD contractor's style garbage bag before putting it back into it's nylon case to contain what little mess there is. No regrets in 14-months of ownership and use.

[Tucson T4R]

................. No regrets in 14-months of ownership and use.


I am thinking about picking up one of the Solaire BBQ grills. Some of the reviews I have read complained about too high of heat output with not enough control to cook things like chicken a little slower than you would searing a steak. I saw that you used foil to buffer the heat when making Pizza. I would think you could do the same for anything that needed more indirect heat type cooking. Has this been a challenge for you or have you primarily stuck with beef that likes the high heat?

[spressomon]

I am thinking about picking up one of the Solaire BBQ grills. Some of the reviews I have read complained about too high of heat output with not enough control to cook things like chicken a little slower than you would searing a steak. I saw that you used foil to buffer the heat when making Pizza. I would think you could do the same for anything that needed more indirect heat type cooking. Has this been a challenge for you or have you primarily stuck with beef that likes the high heat?


This only presents itself when you are trying to grill thicker cuts of meat. What I do for this type of grilling is to sear the meat on both/all sides. Then turn the burner down along with several layers of foil between the meat and the grill grate to help isolate the meat from the burner and finish the meat in a pseudo roasting method. This is actually the same procedure I use at home however I have 3-burners at home along with plenty o'vertical and horizontal space to facilitate the final roasting/finishing of these same size cuts of meat and/or roasting pan (no room for a roasting pan of any sort with the small Solaire). Whereas on the little Solaire you can't shift the meat to a lower temp portion of the grill.

Everything has a compromise...IMO it's easy enough to compensate for this - for all the +'s the Solaire has...plus the tripod stand they offer is really slick!



I could also cut a piece of 1/4" aluminum or similar the size of the Solaire grate to act as a absorber plate...but so far the foil trick works well enough.

[Tucson T4R]

This only presents itself when you are trying to grill thicker cuts of meat. What I do for this type of grilling is to sear the meat on both/all sides. Then turn the burner down along with several layers of foil between the meat and the grill grate to help isolate the meat from the burner and finish the meat in a pseudo roasting method. This is actually the same procedure I use at home however I have 3-burners at home along with plenty o'vertical and horizontal space to facilitate the final roasting/finishing of these same size cuts of meat and/or roasting pan (no room for a roasting pan of any sort with the small Solaire). Whereas on the little Solaire you can't shift the meat to a lower temp portion of the grill.

Everything has a compromise...IMO it's easy enough to compensate for this - for all the +'s the Solaire has...plus the tripod stand they offer is really slick!

I could also cut a piece of 1/4" aluminum or similar the size of the Solaire grate to act as a absorber plate...but so far the foil trick works well enough.

That's what I was hoping to hear. :victory: Thanks for the feedback.

[Green Ganesha]

I'm convinced as well. I went ahead and ordered a Solaire last night. No more skillet "grilling" for me.


I could also cut a piece of 1/4" aluminum or similar the size of the Solaire grate to act as a absorber plate...

Is it considered safe to cook directly on aluminum plate, without any anodization or other coatings? Or would you always cover your 1/4" piece with foil?

[AndrewP]

What about a formed piece of sheet stainless to go over the ceramic element and reduce the direct radiated heat?

[hoser]

Hoser, I'm flaming the grill companies here, not you. The grill companies have good marketing material to sell their grills; but they are not always truthful, and they put a lot of mis-information out there.All good info. Thanks. All I know is my 400 series SS Vermont Castings grill at home is only two years old but is showing signs of rust. When I bought it, there was no way for me to tell what kind of 400 series, just that it was a 400 series.



What about a formed piece of sheet stainless to go over the ceramic element and reduce the direct radiated heat?I have a Wolf Infrared Grill at home and that came with a 1/8" thick rectangular piece of stainless steel. It measures about 1.5" less on each side than the burner itself. You just throw it on top and it works well, basically cutting the output to maybe half. I have yet to try the steel plate on my Solaire but can next week.

[Photog]

All good info. Thanks. All I know is my 400 series SS Vermont Castings grill at home is only two years old but is showing signs of rust. When I bought it, there was no way for me to tell what kind of 400 series, just that it was a 400 series.

In my years of dealing with metals, the companies keep reminding me that Stain Less is not Stain Proof. It just depends on what corrisive elements are acting upon it, as to how corrosion free it will be.

If it is surface corrosion, use some steel wool, fine sand paper, or ScotchBrite on it. If it is rusting near weld joints, then it needs to be heat treated, to restore the Stain Less qualities in those areas.

This would be horrible; but they might have used 409 SS, to save a buck.
Type 409
Contains the lowest chromium content of all stainless steels and is also the least expensive. Originally designed for muffler stock and also used for exterior parts in non-critical corrosive environments.

You can't tell what type it is, unless they tell you in the literature. (A lab analysis would cost more than a BBQ is worth, and you have to supply a sample piece.)

[spressomon]

I'm convinced as well. I went ahead and ordered a Solaire last night. No more skillet "grilling" for me.



Is it considered safe to cook directly on aluminum plate, without any anodization or other coatings? Or would you always cover your 1/4" piece with foil?


If I was going to use aluminum plate I would have it hard anodized. Without doing all the research to verify if this is a food safe method I defer to the likes of Calphalon that utilize the same method of isolating food from raw aluminum.

[spressomon]

What about a formed piece of sheet stainless to go over the ceramic element and reduce the direct radiated heat?


Good idea.

[Tucson T4R]

I'm convinced as well. I went ahead and ordered a Solaire last night. No more skillet "grilling" for me...............


Where did you order your Solaire grill from? I found it for $304 with free shipping from Patiofurniturecovers.com

http://www.patiofurniturecovers.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=69

Did you find a better price anywhere?

[Green Ganesha]

Where did you order your Solaire grill from? I found it for $304 with free shipping from Patiofurniturecovers.com

http://www.patiofurniturecovers.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=69

Did you find a better price anywhere?

That's where I got mine. I only spent a few minutes shopping around, but it was the lowest price I could find. I ordered the tripod stand and bulk-cylinder adapter too.

[Green Ganesha]

What about a formed piece of sheet stainless to go over the ceramic element and reduce the direct radiated heat?

I figured there might be some reason not to cook directly on uncoated/non-anodized aluminum. But what about bare stainless? No problems there...?

[Photog]

The Reynolds aluminum foil is not coated and not anodized and does not cause trouble.

Reynolds has a new coated "non-stick" version.

It is an issue of process. With aluminum foil, there is no aluminum shavings created while cooking. You don't scrape it with a metal spatula to get under the food (if you try, it just tears). When you are done with the foil, you throw it away.

With an aluminum sheet, you can scrape the surface with a spatula, creating fine shavings, that get in your food (not good). Use a plastic spatula, or make sure a metal one has radiused and polished edges. When you are done cooking on it, make sure any scrubbing gets rid of all aluminum residue.

But; isn't this just like cooking in a pan? A pan would be less messy.

Maybe Silverstone makes something that would fit a BBQ. Hmmmm. http://www.silverstone.com/12370.html

Or get really wild and use an aluminum sheet, with aluminum foil on it! Bwahaha.

[Photog]

What about a formed piece of sheet stainless to go over the ceramic element and reduce the direct radiated heat?

Are you thinking of something below the surface, and above the heating elements; but not contacting the food?

[Tucson T4R]

Are you thinking of something below the surface, and above the heating elements; but not contacting the food?

SS plate below the coo0king surface just over the burner.

The food would only be touching the grill surface that was designed for it.

[Green Ganesha]

Or maybe just throw something like this (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VTKWMQ) on top of the grilling surface?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61kyJQLIuiL._SS500_.jpg

[AndrewP]

Are you thinking of something below the surface, and above the heating elements; but not contacting the food?

Yes

[TACODOC]

Lots of good info here about grills, and I am learning about metal along the way so this is really turning into a great thread!

But, I dont like to see people pay more than I did for an IDENTICAL product so if you are looking for an inexpensive grill just like the "Igloo" that Cabela's is selling...


http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/186925.jpg

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=YM1LR41QTWIFRLAQBBICCO3MCAEFCI WE?id=0042356517509a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0470104&cm_ite=0042356517509a&_requestid=75074

The above grill is a knock off of the Devon shown here:
http://www.devonsuperstore.com/images/DTFTG.jpg
The Devon (http://www.devonsuperstore.com/detail.aspx?ID=107)

This EXACT same grill sans Igloo or Devon nameplate can be had for $58 at Lowe's vice $99 (plus shipping) at Cabela's!!!

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none

[hoser]

Here's a cool wood burning grill/stove by Woodflame (http://www.woodflame.com/en/). It uses wood chips and an electric fan to produce an amazing amount of heat. If you've ever used one of those little Sierra Zip stoves (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=13930&memberId=12500226), it is the same idea, just larger. Oc course, you could always modify an existing grill with a fan for similar results.

Check out the Woodflame demo video. (http://www.woodflame.com/en/video.php)

http://www.woodflame.com/images/photo/delecto.jpg

http://www.woodflame.com/images/photo/gusto.jpg

[Tucson T4R]

Ordered my Solaire :chef:

[Photog]

Or maybe just throw something like this (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VTKWMQ) on top of the grilling surface?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61kyJQLIuiL._SS500_.jpg

Now that you could put on any stove, and not need a grill. Like a Forman Grill for your Coleman Stove.:D

With th Solaire and other gas grills, is there any way to have any wood-smoke, for flavor? If so, how do you deal with the ash?

[spressomon]

Now that you could put on any stove, and not need a grill. Like a Forman Grill for your Coleman Stove.:D

With th Solaire and other gas grills, is there any way to have any wood-smoke, for flavor? If so, how do you deal with the ash?


Just brush liquid smoke on whatever you're grilling for that down home wood smoke flavor :D

[spressomon]

Ordered my Solaire :chef:


Did you order the tri-pod stand too? You will really like your Solaire!

Tip: Fire it up and leave it on Low or Medium-Low until the c burner is glowing (this is the procedure if the wind is howling)...then dial it up as needed. If you try to light it on High it doesn't work as well when it's windy.

[Photog]

SS plate below the coo0king surface just over the burner.

The food would only be touching the grill surface that was designed for it.

This might fit inside to reduce the heat, but still not seal off the burners.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=216846-451-4984110&lpage=none

[AndrewP]

Lots of good info here about grills, and I am learning about metal along the way so this is really turning into a great thread!

But, I dont like to see people pay more than I did for an IDENTICAL product so if you are looking for an inexpensive grill just like the "Igloo" that Cabela's is selling...


http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/186925.jpg

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=YM1LR41QTWIFRLAQBBICCO3MCAEFCI WE?id=0042356517509a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0470104&cm_ite=0042356517509a&_requestid=75074

The above grill is a knock off of the Devon shown here:
http://www.devonsuperstore.com/images/DTFTG.jpg
The Devon (http://www.devonsuperstore.com/detail.aspx?ID=107)

This EXACT same grill sans Igloo or Devon nameplate can be had for $58 at Lowe's vice $99 (plus shipping) at Cabela's!!!

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=41054-40307-720-0001&lpage=none


I stopped in at the new Cabela's in Reno today and looked at the Igloo grill (also the Lowes stove appearently) and it has a huge flaw. The baffle has a huge hole in the middle. I've cooked on one of these before, and they totally suck. Right in the center where the hole is, is super hot. The rest of the surface is too cool. It is very hard to cook evenly with this particular grill.

I'm going to order a Solaire as my xmas present to myself. The Parker is still in the running, but I've never seen one actually being used, and the Solaire gets rave reviews from Cruiserheads I trust, so that's got to be the one.

[spressomon]

I stopped in at the new Cabela's in Reno today and looked at the Igloo grill (also the Lowes stove appearently) and it has a huge flaw. The baffle has a huge hole in the middle. I've cooked on one of these before, and they totally suck. Right in the center where the hole is, is super hot. The rest of the surface is too cool. It is very hard to cook evenly with this particular grill.

I'm going to order a Solaire as my xmas present to myself. The Parker is still in the running, but I've never seen one actually being used, and the Solaire gets rave reviews from Cruiserheads I trust, so that's got to be the one.


Buy it once...and enjoy it every time you use it. The Tripod stand is the icing on the cake...

I tried to find where I bought mine...but all I could find is the e-mail address from the PayPal payment: mary@oroszfamily.com I paid $289 including shipping for the 304 grill. And I bought the tripod from: http://www.zoobler.com/ If I remember right the place where I purchased the grill didn't stock the tripod and the place I bought the tripod didn't stock the grill...but that was a year and a half ago...so it might be worth your while to call both of them...

[Tucson T4R]

Did you order the tri-pod stand too? You will really like your Solaire!

Tip: Fire it up and leave it on Low or Medium-Low until the c burner is glowing (this is the procedure if the wind is howling)...then dial it up as needed. If you try to light it on High it doesn't work as well when it's windy.


Thanks for the tip. :ylsmoke:

I didn't order the tripod because I have large SS shelf on the King Kamper Trailer's kitchen that will be a perfect place to sit the grill. Right here where the cutting board is sitting in this photo:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/bgarland40/Chain%20Tank%2007/ChainTank012.jpg

I did order the propane tank adaptor hose though. I have an extra 5lb tank I plan to run the grill off of.

[Tucson T4R]

This might fit inside to reduce the heat, but still not seal off the burners.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=216846-451-4984110&lpage=none


Thanks Brian. I'll wait until I get the grill and take some measurements. Something like that would probably work great if it's the right size. :luxhello:

[benedmonson]

I just read on the www.bbqgalore.com site that this grill is made of the 304 stainless that is the best quality for grills, not sure of where it is made? I'm most likely ordering this one tomorrow based on the reviews. It seems that the regulator problem was fixed a few years ago with a recall. I think this would work for on the trail and at home for my wife and I. I love a rare seared steak!!!


Got the Turbo Sport in today from www.bbqgalore.com and must say it is built to the hilt! I've got 2 beautiful steaks to test on it this evening. I will make some shots and do a small review on it this week after some serious "Test Grilling!" On a side note I spoke to the people at Bar-B-Que Galore and they said that this infrared grill can be used with a different regulator that they sale to work with a regular tank, not just the small coleman type.

[Tucson T4R]

Got the Turbo Sport in today from www.bbqgalore.com and must say it is built to the hilt! I've got 2 beautiful steaks to test on it this evening. I will make some shots and do a small review on it this week after some serious "Test Grilling!" On a side note I spoke to the people at Bar-B-Que Galore and they said that this infrared grill can be used with a different regulator that they sale to work with a regular tank, not just the small coleman type.


Santa (in Brown) delivered my Solaire today too. :D It goes under the tree until Xmas though so I don't get to try it out till after Christmas.:( I'll repost how it works after I play with it.

[Green Ganesha]

You guys lucked out with the nice Santas. I got stuck with evil Santa. He gave me appendicitis so I'd be in the hospital when my Solaire arrived this week, depriving me the opportunity to spirit it back to the garage or into the trailer. This means my fiancee has had a few days to examine the boxes and whatever labels may be on them, maybe even do some stealthy Googling, and concluded that either:

I've bought this expensive and very cool grill as a Christmas present for her.
I've been my typical buy-stuff-for-me self, but ... this really is a spiffy backyard grill. Obviously too expensive and too nice to permit me to bang up on camping trips.
I've gone and done it again, selfishly squandering good money on overkill expedition cooking appliance #16 (which she doesn't realize she's under-inventoried).


I'm hoping it's #3....

[Tucson T4R]

You guys lucked out with the nice Santas. I got stuck with evil Santa. He gave me appendicitis so I'd be in the hospital when my Solaire arrived this week, depriving me the opportunity to spirit it back to the garage or into the trailer. This means my fiancee has had a few days to examine the boxes and whatever labels may be on them, maybe even do some stealthy Googling, and concluded that either:

I've bought this expensive and very cool grill as a Christmas present for her.
I've been my typical buy-stuff-for-me self, but ... this really is a spiffy backyard grill. Obviously too expensive and too nice to permit me to bang up on camping trips.
I've gone and done it again, selfishly squandering good money on overkill expedition cooking appliance #16 (which she doesn't realize she's under-inventoried).


I'm hoping it's #3....

I vote for #3 :sombrero:

Sorry to hear about your appendicitis. Best wishes on a quick recovery.:)

[hoser]

There was a Solaire grill in the 316SS (Marine grade) on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120191924723&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123) with the tripod and bulk propane adapter. No bids. Could probably convince to relist and/or lower the price.

"Marine-Grade Stainless Steel Solaire Anywhere Portable Infrared Gas Grill and Accessories. A great introduction to the searing heat of Solaire Infrared in a convenient, under 20 lb. portable. This Solaire Anywhere is quality constructed of type-316 Marine-grade stainless steel . Type-316 is very resistant to the corrosive effects of salt water. Accessories include: - Tripod stand. - adjustable feet/mounting system, SS V-Shape Grilling grids, valve/regulator and carrying bag - adaptor hose for use with 20 lb. tanks. This package new cost 525.00 you can get for less it works great and the best part it's portable . You can take it to beach the park or even tailgate parties . You get everything the grill, tripod, carring bag, adapter hose for 20lb propane tank( propane tank not included), adjusting feet and instructions.If you have any question please email me or call thanks & good luck. Richie 760-272-7414."

[Tucson T4R]

Santa caved in. :wings: Tonight I got to try out my new Solaire grill. I first cooked Tony DeSanto's stuffed jalapenos (rattlesnake eggs)

http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8577&page=23

on medium heat then seared a nice marinated sirloin on high for few minutes and finished it off on medium. Both the stuffed peppers and the steak came out perfectly. :cow:

I really like this grill. I have read that some didn’t think it had enough heat control, but for me it works great and has all the heat control I need.

Looking forward to many great camp dinners in the years to come wih this BBQ.:chowtime:

[zimm]

check yacht supply places. they will probably have a large selection of SS mounting hardware for grills such as that, if youre looking for neat instead of cheap.

keep in mind, 90% of the overland equipment was thought of years ago by sailors. (good sources for poly rope by the foot, etc)

[jeeperaz]

The Weber Q has a huge following with the RV crowd. Overwhelming positive reviews on Amazon.

I bought one for camping after doing a ton of research and I am totally impressed with it.

The Weber Baby Q 100 is just as small as most of the units previously posted here.

[762X39]

I purchased a Weber Q200 last april and have been using it since. I even grilled patties for 40 guests one afternoon in July. The secret is high quality construction, enough heat to do the job and the size of a cheap chinese tabletop propane grill.
It fits on my tailgate and is as hot as a full size backyard grill. I can't say enough good things about it!

[AndrewP]

My Solaire is on the way! It's a Christmas present to myself. Looking forward to trying a bunch of different meats before I go to Death Valley in March. If it grills as hot as everyone says, I'll need some practice.

I also need some hints on the "spressopizza"

Good and helpful thread.

:campfire:

[spressomon]

My Solaire is on the way! It's a Christmas present to myself. Looking forward to trying a bunch of different meats before I go to Death Valley in March. If it grills as hot as everyone says, I'll need some practice.

I also need some hints on the "spressopizza"

Good and helpful thread.

:campfire:


Great...you will really like it Andy! You just need to use it to figure the temp thing out...pretty much like anything:) . It's not an issue but for thick (1"+) cuts of meat. For thicker cuts just sear and then turn down to low and/or leave the lid open/ajar. I grilled my homemade Italian sausages...had to leave it on low with the lid fully open and constantly turn the sausages to get them cooked the way I like (that's pretty much the same way I cook them on the home BBQ).

One trick previously mentioned: Light the grill on the low to low-medium setting. Before turning up the heat let the ceramic burner get to glowing red...then adjust as necessary. It seems like, in windy conditions, it will go out more easily when you're trying to get it going on medium-high or high. After the burner is glowing it is impervious to wind.

Pizza: I use an 8" round pizza screen and about 6 layers of HD foil over the grilling surface to disperse the heat better. One of these days I'm going to cut a piece of aluminum to match the grill surface to use (not to cook directly on the aluminum but to use as a heat diffuser for pizza, etc.)...but the foil trick works well for now. I like TJ's dough...99 cents and enough to make 2-medium thick 8" pizza crusts or 3-thin. I used to make my own but TJ's is: Easier, quicker, just as tasty and relatively cheap.

Will be spinning pizza's in DV in about a week...come on down!

[AndrewP]

Will be spinning pizza's in DV in about a week...come on down!


I'd love to come for some za, but there are two problems...1) I broke my ankle, and 2) I'm supposed to work. Thanks for the invite.

[AndrewP]

Back to the top with a review of my new Solaire.

I got home from Hawaii and the Solaire was waiting for me. It is the best packed item I have ever purchased. Super heavy cardboard box, immobilized inside with all of the insides tied down to prevent damage or loss. I mention this only because it was so impressive. It survived UPS shipping without even a gouge or dent in the box.

Assembly. It didn't really need any, but it is clever the way the burner fits to the bottom of the unit. It's very solidly connected, but still easy to pull out for cleaning. The lighter is especially high quality. It has real ignition with a continuous spark, instead of one spark like you get with a typical push button. The entire unit is bolted together with real captured nuts and stainless hardware. It's nicely done, yet all of the pieces could be replaced easily if needed.

The burner at first looks odd. It's a flat ceramic surface with 100s of holes for gas. It's covered with a coarse mesh of stainless steel to protect it. The overall size is not as big as I expected and in a way, it's more solid and compact than the Weber portable I've used for years.

Cooking-Damn this thing gets extremely hot, and fast too. I went from ignition to cooking in about 4 minutes. It is super hot, with very even distribution of the heat. Just like they say, it cooks with intense heat. We made skirt steaks in roughly 5 minutes start to finish. I am an instant believer in the radiant heat hype. Because it cooks so fast and wastes little heat, it's very efficient with the gas. Even with the 5 minutes on high post cooking flame off (recommended by Solaire) the gas was only on 15 minutes. You cook with the unit open (also recommended by Solaire) and it's easily twice as fast as the closed Weber I have used for years, and that I used closed, to speed the cooking process.

The steaks were perfect-cooked with a bit of brown on the outside, tender moist and still very pink on the inside. Perfect even for a first effort. Delicious.

Two things I did not like. 1)The grease can and does collect inside the unit. The stuff that falls on the burner burns off, but most of the drippings run to the side, drip down and collect in the bottom. Fortunately, the burner lifts out to facilitate wiping this up. 2)The second issue is minor, but you have to take the regulator off after use to store it in the carry bag. That's an opportunity to loose the regulator if you are not careful. I'm going to call Solaire and get an extra to bring along.

Overall-This thing rocks. It's the best grill I've ever cooked on. It's a bit pricey, but given the cooking speed, the overall lack of drama, and the propane sparing speed, I'm sold. Going to try some chicken or lamb tomorrow night. If things go as I expect, I'm going to have to give serious consideration to a full size Solaire for the back yard.

[AndrewP]

I just saw this:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat570006&id=0053230518223a&navCount=2&podId=0053230&parentId=cat570006&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat570006&hasJS=true

Anyone know if this is a real Solaire or a knock off. If it's the real deal, it's a very good price.

[spressomon]

I just saw this:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat570006&id=0053230518223a&navCount=2&podId=0053230&parentId=cat570006&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat570006&hasJS=true

Anyone know if this is a real Solaire or a knock off. If it's the real deal, it's a very good price.


I noticed this in one of the many weekly catalogs I get from Cabelas! I would first expect it to be a China product given how many China products Cabela's offers.

If I, like you, ever need to purchase another patio barbie I will give serious consideration to a Solaire based upon the experiences using mine. Now that I typically only cook for 2 and it takes a fair amount of time and propane to get the football team sized existing bbq hot and ready I have been thinking about just using the lil'Solaire on the patio too...

[Tucson T4R]

I just saw this:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20075-cat570006&id=0053230518223a&navCount=2&podId=0053230&parentId=cat570006&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat570006&hasJS=true

Anyone know if this is a real Solaire or a knock off. If it's the real deal, it's a very good price.


WOW, no kidding.:Wow1: It sure looks identical down to the same IR burner and screen cover. Also says 304 SS. If it is the same exact unit just rebranded for Cabelas, it would be a screaming deal.

[hoser]

I do not think they are the same, though it is possible it can be a good grill. Looks like it might be a copy of an earlier version of the Solaire.

http://www.rasmussen.biz/grills/anycopy.html

[Tucson T4R]

The one difference I see is it looks like there is a slide out tray at the bottom of the grill. The Solaire Grill does not have that.

[TheGillz]

Hey, where do I find that folding coal bbq in the states??