Willman's Bantam BT3-C Expedition Trailer Buildup

[Willman]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Moab%205-26-08/DSC04640.jpg

Bantam BT3-C Expedition Trailer

Mods:

- New axle with 10" Elec drum brakes
- Lock n' roll hitch
- Wheelers 16x8 "b" wheels and 255 BF Mud's
- Scepter cans with AT holders
- AT fenders
- SS locking hasp
- Metal lid w/ gas stocks
- Eezi-Awn 1800 series (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)
- Hitch



Future mods:
- LED trailer lights
- Propane tank with mount
- Lots more to come....



From the start:



She should be ready for next weekends Moab trip (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3848)!!!

Well here she is!!!!! Shes even matches my tow rig!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02813.jpg

Pretty good cond. for being for 1946...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02814.jpg

Shes got a ball hitch that got to go! I got a Lock n' roll to replace it!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02815.jpg

Lot to do!!!! Here's a picture of the new hitch setup!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02812.jpg

In Fab mode!!! (more pics to come)

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02816.jpg




:wings:

[atavuss]

sweet trailer! I also have a 46 T3-C. is the serial number plate still on yours? it would be on the driver's side on the front panel.
I sandblasted and powdercoated the original wheels on mine and installed 7.00x15 NDC military tube type tires so that the tires and wheels would not stick out from the fenders.
these 1/4 ton trailers are getting hard to find in decent shape.

[kcowyo]

Well here she is!!!!! Shes even matches my tow rig!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02813.jpg



Can't wait to see this person! :jumping:

And that Ranger in the background is gawd awful.....:(

[mountainpete]

Nice trailer! Congrats!

[Willman]

And that Ranger in the background is gawd awful.....:(

Your telling me!!!!

My father-in-law has a good size blacksmiths shop...That truck belongs to one of the workers! Wouldn't that be a great ExPo project build for a rig!!!:hehe:

[Willman]

sweet trailer! I also have a 46 T3-C. is the serial number plate still on yours? it would be on the driver's side on the front panel.
I sandblasted and powdercoated the original wheels on mine and installed 7.00x15 NDC military tube type tires so that the tires and wheels would not stick out from the fenders.
these 1/4 ton trailers are getting hard to find in decent shape.

Thanks man!!!

The plate is still on their...but covered in paint..I need to get the paint off one of these days....

[durango_60]

Very nice find. I'm on the fence on bringing my M101 this weekend since my wife bailed and it is just me and my 5yo. If it was complete with my tent mounted it would be a no brainer but as of now it is only prepared for hauling mo stuff...

How much stuff are you bringing with a pickup bed and a trailer???

[Willman]

Very nice find. I'm on the fence on bringing my M101 this weekend since my wife bailed and it is just me and my 5yo. If it was complete with my tent mounted it would be a no brainer but as of now it is only prepared for hauling mo stuff...

How much stuff are you bringing with a pickup bed and a trailer???

With the wife coming....The whole kitchen sink!!!!

With extra water due to the heat, caring extra fuel and all the baby's stuff...the trailer will be making the trip!!!

durango_60...you gotta bring your trailer!!!!! Everybody doing it!!!! Plus..it would be cool to get some pictures of the two in battle!!!

:jumping:

[atavuss]

Willman,
did you get the new hitch set-up installed? how did you mate the new hitch to the trailer?
I took my Bantam through some mild off road trips with the stock Fulton ball hitch, it did better than I thought it would, but a lock and roll or other type hitch would work better off road.

[Willman]

Willman,
did you get the new hitch set-up installed? how did you mate the new hitch to the trailer?
I took my Bantam through some mild off road trips with the stock Fulton ball hitch, it did better than I thought it would, but a lock and roll or other type hitch would work better off road.

The hitch is all installed and looks great!!!! I took a piece of 3x3x3/16" tube and welded a plate to weld to the tonge of the trailer....The 3x3 works great letting the hitch spin 360 degrees freely. I will post some pictures soon before the weekend's Moab trip of the hitch on the trailer........

Trailer lights and repack the bearings left to go!!!

:jumping:

[OverlandZJ]

Thanks man!!!

The plate is still on their...but covered in paint..I need to get the paint off one of these days....

Hey Wil, you can drill the rivets out holding the plate on and get the serial# from looking at the back...they are stamped on. Email my bud at sales@armyjeepparts.com and he can punch a repo plate with your serial.

[Willman]

Hey Wil, you can drill the rivets out holding the plate on and get the serial# from looking at the back...they are stamped on. Email my bud at sales@armyjeepparts.com and he can punch a repo plate with your serial.

Great idea!!

I'll have to get that a try!!!

Thanks for sharing!!!:)

[atavuss]

Willman,
are you going to install shocks on your Bantam? mine bounces like crazy when empty, not so bad with a load. FWIW, upper shock mounts from a WWll 1/4 ton trailer or even the later M100 trailer will bolt right up to your Bantam (not sure if the M416 mounts will work). you should already have the lower shock mounts on the axle.
I got these upper mounts from a guy on the G503.com website, they came off a M100 trailer:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/400648/P1010023.jpg

[Willman]

Willman,
are you going to install shocks on your Bantam? mine bounces like crazy when empty, not so bad with a load. FWIW, upper shock mounts from a WWll 1/4 ton trailer or even the later M100 trailer will bolt right up to your Bantam (not sure if the M416 mounts will work). you should already have the lower shock mounts on the axle.
I got these upper mounts from a guy on the G503.com website, they came off a M100 trailer:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/400648/P1010023.jpg

Great find!! My trailer sure loves to bounce around...Shock are in-order one of these days.....I thinking of going with the AT conversion (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5452) in the long run...Shocks now will calm the ride until the money tree can grow back!!!

[Rezarf <><]

Nic-

I recommend playing with your tire pressure a lot. You have a lot of sidewall to work with to smooth things out a bit.

[Willman]

Nic-

I recommend playing with your tire pressure a lot. You have a lot of sidewall to work with to smooth things out a bit.

Thats in the works:

45 psi - rides like a tank!!
40 psi - little better
35 psi - Next psi to try out!

The trailer needs shocks bad!!! The leafs are stock and very stiff.....Looking at the air bag conversion to help the ride out..

Last weekend...Hit the trails in CO....She sure did some :jumping: around back their!!!

The hitch worked like champ!!! A Lock n roll hitch is the only way to go!!! Pictures of that to come...

Here's some action shots from CO...Enjoy:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Fathers%20Day%2007/DSC02905.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Fathers%20Day%2007/DSC02909.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Fathers%20Day%2007/DSC02878.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Fathers%20Day%2007/DSC02880.jpg

[FourByLand]

Man that looks so good!

Thanks for not taking forever to post the pics!!!

[Andrew Walcker]

Man that looks so good!


X2! Great looking rig, especially out on the trail:wings:

[Willman]

Here are some pictures of the completed Lock N' Roll hitch!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02944.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02945.jpg

This hitch is the only way to go!!!!!

:jumping:

[The BN Guy]

Nice looking trailer with tons of potential!

[Desertdude]

Well done! Load that thing to the top... that'll smooth her out :shakin:

[Willman]

Well done! Load that thing to the top... that'll smooth her out :shakin:


Just mine have to go to the Home Dump and buy me a pallet of sand.....:shakin:

Been thinking about an air ride suspension from AT......

:)

[kcowyo]

Maybe we should talk.

If you'll be fabbing shock mounts from scratch, I may have a pair of shocks that will work for you. Right before the CO trip, I had a new set of adjustable Rancho 9K's put on the front of the T.

When ordering them, I forgot that I had added ball joint spacers, so I didn't compensate for the additional length needed. The shocks are not quite long enough nor are they able to take full advantage of the extra travel from the bj spacers. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order another pair.

Seeing as how I owe you some parts anyway, if you think these may be of interest to you, let me know. I can try to sell them on a T100 board but I'd rather you have them for your trailer build if you think you could make them work. A 9 position adjustable shock might be a great solution for the varied terrain and highways your trailer will see.

Just a thought....

[Willman]

Maybe we should talk.

If you'll be fabbing shock mounts from scratch, I may have a pair of shocks that will work for you. Right before the CO trip, I had a new set of adjustable Rancho 9K's put on the front of the T.

When ordering them, I forgot that I had added ball joint spacers, so I didn't compensate for the additional length needed. The shocks are not quite long enough nor are they able to take full advantage of the extra travel from the bj spacers. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order another pair.

Seeing as how I owe you some parts anyway, if you think these may be of interest to you, let me know. I can try to sell them on a T100 board but I'd rather you have them for your trailer build if you think you could make them work. A 9 position adjustable shock might be a great solution for the varied terrain and highways your trailer will see.

Just a thought....


Great idea!!!....Right now i got my $$$$$ and time getting my dual battery and ExtremeAire installed....Having a dead compressor on the last trip made me want to get the new ExtremeAire in......I have not decided on my trailer suspension as of yet. Go ahead and sell them and get your $$$$ out of them. Thanks for the offer....I'm still dreaming of an suspension setup. Only if that money tree would just grow faster!!!:)

[computeruser]

Beautiful trailer. I'm envious - my TJ really, really needs one desparately.

[Willman]

Beautiful trailer. I'm envious - my TJ really, really needs one desparately.

They are fun!!! My truck loves having the companion....Their made for each other!!!!:hehe:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Fathers%20Day%2007/DSC02878.jpg

[kcowyo]

http://s170537965.onlinehome.us/KcoWyo/gallery2/d/1935-1/Father_s+Day+128.jpg


Nice set up Nic! :clapsmile

[Willman]

http://s170537965.onlinehome.us/KcoWyo/gallery2/d/1935-1/Father_s+Day+128.jpg


Nice set up Nic! :clapsmile

And what a great picture you took!!!!! Your camera takes great pictures!!!

Thanks for the kind words KC........We need to start thinking what area to travel next.......:chowtime:

:jumping:

[durangodds]

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa184/durangodds/IMG_0801.jpg

She truly is a beautiful rig. Are you sure your wife never gets jealous too?

[Willman]

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa184/durangodds/IMG_0801.jpg

She truly is a beautiful rig. Are you sure your wife never gets jealous too?

Awesome action shot durangodds!!!!!!

Funny thing...she does get a little jealous...Thats why we have flowers and :26_34_3:!!!

Did you get a welder yet?

Thanks for the picture and kind words!

:)

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Your trailer is in amazing condition for it's age. It looks great.

[Willman]

Got an new axle with elec. brakes.......

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03915.jpg

Wired wheeled the leaf springs and gave them a fresh coat of paint.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03916.jpg

Installing the new brakes...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03917.jpg

Here she is!!! I found a used set of BF AT's in a 285 for a temporary fix on 16x8 Wheelers black steelies ( type B) to match the truck......going to 255's in the future.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03921.jpg

The tires stuck out about 2".....Down the road...the 255's will help with that. I have about 2 1/2" in the fender at the bottom.

Still lots to do.....


Rewire trailer for brakes
Wire tow rig w/ brake controller
bath!
Lid for the RTT
and the list goes on....


:)

[Willman]

Before

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03879.jpg
(added some Scepter cans to the front in welded down AT holders...great setup!)

After

Spring over!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03919.jpg
48" hi-lift....she sure tall now!..That is a 6" block of wood holding up the front....

:)

[Desertdude]

Clean machine. Your thoughts on extending the fenders?

[Willman]

Clean machine. Your thoughts on extending the fenders?

I wish i had your type of fenders......

I thinking if taking a piece of black rubber to extend them out.

Something like this:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2008750/p-2008750/N-111+10201+600013135/c-10101

Any other ideas?

:REOutArchery02:

[Desertdude]

I wish i had your type of fenders......

I thinking if taking a piece of black rubber to extend them out.

Something like this:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2008750/p-2008750/N-111+10201+600013135/c-10101

Any other ideas?

:REOutArchery02:

Nice idea with the rubber...

I just finished the new custom hitch and fender widening on my second M101 - we took 1/8 X 4" steel extending the fenders from the tub outward - a bit easier on the M101 due to the angle bends (not round) I needed to go 3" to cover the tires.

[Willman]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/67233-lg.jpg

Heres a good deal:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/92510_400.htm

:REOutArchery02:

Something like this....or new custom fenders!

[Willman]

Nice idea with the rubber...

I just finished the new custom hitch and fender widening on my second M101 - we took 1/8 X 4" steel extending the fenders from the tub outward - a bit easier on the M101 due to the angle bends (not round) I needed to go 3" to cover the tires.

Right on DD....

Any pictures of the install???

I thought about doing that.......We have a metal roller in our Blacksmiths shop that would do the trick to get that material round to fit the fender......Rubber seems easyer and will give the Toyota flare look just like the tow rig.....Going for the matching look i guess...

:)

[blupaddler]

Nic, looks really good!

Is that your shop in the background? Some nice metal work in there! :clapsmile :clapsmile :clapsmile









Oh, and DDude you need lighten your load and get rid of that second trailer.:)

[Willman]

Nic, looks really good!

Is that your shop in the background? Some nice metal work in there! :clapsmile :clapsmile :clapsmile


Thanks!

Father-in-law is a Blacksmith!

Having a big heated shop comes in handy in the winter time!

:REOutCampFire03:

[computeruser]

Lookin' good! I continue to be envious, and may have to finally do something about that envy in 2008.

Do you happen to know (or could you measure) the width of the trailer at its widest point with stock tires? I'm assuming that the fender is wider than the hub, from the pictures and from samples I've seen. Since I'm super tight on driveway and garage space, I'd love to be able to park one inside of my regular utility trailer.

And for those who are in the know, is there any material difference in terms of overall width between the Bantam, M416, and M101 trailers?

[Willman]

Do you happen to know (or could you measure) the width of the trailer at its widest point with stock tires? I'm assuming that the fender is wider than the hub, from the pictures and from samples I've seen. Since I'm super tight on driveway and garage space, I'd love to be able to park one inside of my regular utility trailer.

My trailer is not at my house......I'll get ya some measurements Monday:)



And for those who are in the know, is there any material difference in terms of overall width between the Bantam, M416, and M101 trailers?

I would have to say really close in measurements!:)

[Desertdude]

M101 size drawing (http://idisk.mac.com/desertdude-Public/Portalwebphotos/M101.size.drawings.pdf) (under frame size) the custom tongue is an additional 38.5 inches (approx.) out from the bottom tub edge.

[EDIT]
Actual outside dimensions - 48" X 73" tub - wheels & fenders 8" (each) Total width 64" (outside wheel to wheel) Length including tongue 111.5 "

Total footprint dimensions - 64" X 111.5"

:::

[Willman]

Nice idea with the rubber...

I just finished the new custom hitch and fender widening on my second M101 - we took 1/8 X 4" steel extending the fenders from the tub outward - a bit easier on the M101 due to the angle bends (not round) I needed to go 3" to cover the tires.

Bump for some pictures of the mod!!!!!

:chowtime:

[Desertdude]

Bump for some pictures of the mod!!!!!

:chowtime:

R U talkin to me? :shakin:

I'll go snap a few right now...Be right back :REOutArchery02:

[Willman]

R U talkin to me? :shakin:

I'll go snap a few right now...Be right back :REOutArchery02:

Ya buddy!

:shakin:

Thanks DD!

:chowtime:

[adventureduo]

Looks really good with a spring over. Looks more for off road use now. Congrats. I like it.

[Desertdude]

Just for you Nic

M101 hauling trailer (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/M101_hauling_trailer/)

[Willman]

Just for you Nic

M101 hauling trailer (http://homepage.mac.com/desertdude/M101_hauling_trailer/)


DD...your the man!

How did you attach the new fender pieces?....Looks like you just bolted it on and added a longer bracket.......

:chowtime:

[Desertdude]

/Thread Hi-lift on/

employed the simple plan - bend the 1/8" steel to match the angle foe the fenders - plasma cleaned the fender edge then bolted the steel to the original mounts - bolted the fenders to the steel - needs a couple of more bolts and paint next...

/Thread Hi-lift off/

[Willman]

/Thread Hi-lift on/

employed the simple plan - bend the 1/8" steel to match the angle foe the fenders - plasma cleaned the fender edge then bolted the steel to the original mounts - bolted the fenders to the steel - needs a couple of more bolts and paint next...

/Thread Hi-lift off/

Don't worry about the thread hi-jacking......It was my question in my trailer build!

Thanks for the infor!

Looks great.....

Not to sure what i want to do.....I like the rubber idea....Just in case i need to rub a tree vs. messing up one of my nice fenders....Its up in the air....

:REOutArchery02:

I'll get some pictures of the trailer behind the tow rig tomorrow!

:)

[Desertdude]

Kewl :) - I wonder how well the rubber will fit to the fenders? rivets?

[Willman]

^Bolts...It comes with a clip bolt type of fastening system. I would rather bolt it then use rivets. Just in case i decide to do something else.

:)

[Willman]

Well.....I got a new 255 coming and found a used 255 on craigslist!

I'm going to use my brand new spare off my truck and the new one for the trailer! The used one coming will replace the spare on the truck!

Did a google search and this add came up on the second pg!

http://medford.craigslist.org/pts/499105969.html

I'm all set! Fresh set for the trailer and a good used spare!

:wings:

[MoGas]

Very nice trailer. I am at a crossroads with my M416. It is all stock except for the lights and I can't bring myself to cut a tailgate in it. I'd like to build it up as there are 5 of us and a Chocolate Lab in the family.

I'm probably going to put a spare tire mount from a pickup under it for a spare tire and some can mounts as one of the first mods.

Dave

[Willman]

Got the 255's on!!!!

Boy it looks sweet!!!!

Will post pictures soon!

I'm glad that i decided to go with the 255's........Killer tires!!!!

:) :) :) :)


:jumping:

[Willman]

He she is!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03979.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03974.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03970.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03971.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03976.jpg

Got the under side all cleaned up.....primed and undercoated

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03981.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03978.jpg

I need to get the right hitch with the right drop!

Lots to do:


Wire for brakes
Wire truck w/ brake controller
Fenders????
shocks!
Lid
Fix tailgate
Bedliner (Herculiner)
And the list goes on.....


:)

[Desertdude]

Rockin good! :clapsmile

[OldSven]

Much better than the 285's. Somehow it looks bigger than the truck now...

[Willman]

.....Somehow it looks bigger than the truck now...

It would be a sad day if my trailer out wheeled my truck.......:oops:

I don't think so........Airbags for the future though.

:)

[Martyn]

Willman

That is a really clean looking trailer. Nice can holders on the tongue.

I wonder on the fenders if you could cut them in half, spread them apart and weld in a small flat section at the top. That way you could accommodate the larger tires as well as keeping some of the original shape??

[RoundOut]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03976.jpg



This photo would crystalize what type of fender treatment to apply to my trailer if the tow-rig and trailer were mine!

You have a beautiful setup in the works, Nic! GREAT work so far!



.

[Willman]

Willman

That is a really clean looking trailer. Nice can holders on the tongue.

I wonder on the fenders if you could cut them in half, spread them apart and weld in a small flat section at the top. That way you could accommodate the larger tires as well as keeping some of the original shape??


Great idea!



But.....I was thinking of conning 2 fenders off you guys......:chowtime:

[Willman]

This photo would crystalize what type of fender treatment to apply to my trailer if the tow-rig and trailer were mine!

You have a beautiful setup in the works, Nic! GREAT work so far!



.

Thanks guys!!!

A set of AT fenders would sure hit the spot Martyn!!!!!:shakin:

If they don't want to part with two....then it back to the drawing board....

Might just have to fab up some of my own.....

:REOutArchery02:

[p1michaud]

Might just have to fab up some of my own.....

The trailer is coming along very nicely!
With your skills, I'd make a set. Not very hard to do. We made up a set for my friend's trailer using cardboard to lay it out then cut up some 1/8" steel plate, bent it using a home made metal bender in a shop press then welded it up. Came out lookin great. I'll see if I can find some pictures.

Cheers,
P

[ntsqd]

Willman

That is a really clean looking trailer. Nice can holders on the tongue.

I wonder on the fenders if you could cut them in half, spread them apart and weld in a small flat section at the top. That way you could accommodate the larger tires as well as keeping some of the original shape??
This is what I'd do!
That, or cut off the inner & outer lips and weld or rivet them to a wider rolled band. My grandfather did it this way (riveted) on the utility trailer I'm about to inherit.

[kcowyo]

That trailer is looking a lot different than last summer. The truck is too -

http://s170537965.onlinehome.us/KcoWyo/gallery2/d/1746-1/Father_s+Day+094.jpg

http://s170537965.onlinehome.us/KcoWyo/gallery2/d/1823-1/Father_s+Day+122.jpg


Nice work as always Nic - :clapsmile

[Willman]

Thanks guys!



Lid Construction!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04013.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04014.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04015.jpg

Still need to weld down the sheet metal

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04018.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04019.jpg

Here's my layout for the lid

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/Lid.jpg

Lots to do!

:jumping:

[Desertdude]

what a welding table :shakin:

[Rezarf <><]

what a welding table :shakin:

Man, I was thinking the same thing! Lid is coming along nice too!

Rezarf <><

[Willman]

It's a Blacksmith/fab table. It has tons of jigs that goes with the table too (clamps, pegs, and etc..). It makes life much easy in the fab world when you have to do piece after piece.

:)

[ntsqd]

It's a Blacksmith/fab table. It has tons of jigs that goes with the table too (clamps, pegs, and etc..). It makes life much easy in the fab world when you have to do piece after piece.

:)
Those are really nice tables to work off of. Very expensive too. Whom ever scarred it with the grinder needs to have his hands slapped. :)

[Willman]

Lid parts list:

(McMaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com/))

- Steel Piano Hinge for Tight Clearance W/O Holes, .090" Thick, 2" OpenWidth, 6' Length, 1/4" pin #11785A33 x1


- Gas Spring with Threaded Ends 150 Force, 26.38" Extended Length, 10.24" Stroke #9416K212 x2


- 10 mm Ball Socket, M8 Thread, Steel for Gas Spring with Threaded Ends
Please enter a quantity. #9416K79 x4


- Ball Mounting Hardware Steel, Flat Ball Bracket
Please enter a quantity. #9512K91 x4


:wings:


How time to think how to keep this lid down and locked......thinking a hasp with a lock will do the trick.......What do you guys think?

[Desertdude]

I have the slam lock (http://www.allegiscorp.com/DisplayPartAction.do?partId=24648&groupId=869&groupElementId=5&displayTemplate=/jsp/displayDetailTemp_39.jsp&cat=Multi-Point+Latching+Systems) set up

It does work well and is a very clean set up but..

If I were to so it over again (which I might) I would copy AT's lock/clamp design.
(apologies to Mario and Martyn) :bowdown:

The reason is it is more of a compression lock and you can really clamp it down onto the weather stripping for a tight seal. And the mechanism is all on the outside, no need to worry about something getting stuck or out of adjustment (where you can't get the lid open) Ask me how I know when we are around the campfire...:smileeek:

[nruller]

How time to think how to keep this lid down and locked......thinking a hasp with a lock will do the trick.......What do you guys think?

I am planning on one of these on each end of the lid to keep it closed.

http://www.destaco.com/img/prod/324.jpg

[OldSven]

I am planning on one of these on each end of the lid to keep it closed.

http://www.destaco.com/img/prod/324.jpg
Same here.

[p1michaud]

Lid Construction!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04013.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04014.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04015.jpg


Very nice metal working there Nic. Pehaps I'll have to spend some time taking metal working classes at Willman metal working academy!

The trailer is coming along nicely. Have you decided what to do with your trailer fenders?

I too dig the table! :26_7_2:

[spressomon]

what a welding table :shakin:


Ditto...what a dream to have a fab table like that in the garage! I suppose you have a Bridgeport milling machine tucked away in the corner too eh?!

Nice!

[Willman]

Very nice metal working there Nic. Pehaps I'll have to spend some time taking metal working classes at Willman metal working academy!

The trailer is coming along nicely. Have you decided what to do with your trailer fenders?

I too dig the table! :26_7_2:


Thanks P!

I have decited to go with a set of AT fenders! :wings: Those are 6 weeks out...but no problem here!

:jumping:

[Willman]

Ditto...what a dream to have a fab table like that in the garage! I suppose you have a Bridgeport milling machine tucked away in the corner too eh?!

Nice!

My father-in-law has a few of those i believe in storage some where.....and about a few of everything else......

It's all about marring into a great Family!:wings:

I love my family!

:jumping:

[durango_60]

Looking great Nic! I'm getting excited about working on my trailer between ski season and wheeling season.

[IH8RDS]

Taking notes on the lid build. Thanks for sharing.

[Willman]

Well...Just bought an 1800 series Eezi-Awn Tent (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)!!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Eeziawnlogo.gif

:wings:

Now time to get the lid done!

Also...UPS man just dropped off the McMaster parts...

And ordered up my AT chaser fenders! Thanks Mario!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/1_chaser6.jpg
(adventuretrailers.com)


Life is Good!

[RoundOut]

I just noticed on the Sierra Expeditions site in the link below that the 1800 series Eezi-Awn is $1800. Would you please ask Wil & Wen to stock the 100 series?

:shakin:


:costumed-smiley-007




Well...Just bought an 1800 series Eezi-Awn Tent (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)!!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Eeziawnlogo.gif

[Willman]

I just noticed on the Sierra Expeditions site in the link below that the 1800 series Eezi-Awn is $1800. Would you please ask Wil & Wen to stock the 100 series?

:shakin:


:costumed-smiley-007


You got it!

:shakin:

[Willman]

Got my tent today!:wings:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC04021.jpg

Now i need to finish the lid!

:jumping:

[SAR_Squid79]

I am planning on one of these on each end of the lid to keep it closed.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8914/latchec2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Where can you find these? I'm interested in something similar for my trailer build, but I want to be able to pad-lock it. Is there a source that has a variety of this typ of latch?

[nruller]

Fastenal can order them. Allegis is another supplier.

The manufacturer is DESTACO. They have a complete list of their suppliers. Cheapest I could find is about $30 each!

[Rezarf <><]

McMaster, search Draw latch.

Drew

[OldSven]

How are you going to mount the tent to the lid? Roof rack, or welded mounts?

[OverlandZJ]

Got my tent today!:wings:

Now i need to finish the lid!

:jumping:


Very cool Nic! Trailer is coming along very nicely, great job.

[Willman]

How are you going to mount the tent to the lid? Roof rack, or welded mounts?


On my frame......I have three supports in the middle......The RTT will mount flat on my lid with some rubber spacers....

:jumping:

[kcowyo]

Got my tent today!:wings:

I can't wait to see this thing all tied together; rtt, bt3-c, red tacoma, etc.

Congrats on the new goodies and excellent build details in this thread. Nice work as always.

:rockon:

[p1michaud]

Well...Just bought an 1800 series Eezi-Awn Tent (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)!!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Eeziawnlogo.gif

Santa was a bit late, but you know what they say better late than never!
Very cool, can't wait to see the trailer with tent mounted. A great day indeed! :wings:

[Willman]

Got the lid welded on and the Gas shocks for the lid mounted

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04024.jpg

Due to the trailer having a tailgate...I need to add another cross bar to beef things up plus have some where to mount the rear shock!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04027.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04031.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04028.jpg

Need to drill and put a through-bolt on both sides to make it more solid.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04029.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04030.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04034.jpg

Hinge is all welded in! Works great!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04032.jpg

Shot with the tailgate down

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04036.jpg

Overall.....very happy how the gas shocks worked out....Opens and closes very smooth....With having the 150 pound shocks.....When i put the RTT on...It should come down a little easyer with the added weight.

:jumping:

[Desertdude]

Looking great Nic.

Clever rear shock set up - I was wondering how you were going to work that out. :Astrologist:

[MoGas]

Looking good. Where are those jerry can holders from? Are they designed specific to the Sceptor cans or will the steel NATO cans work too?

[IZZYDUSIT]

awsome looking trailer and great job on the lid- those
old military trailers just do it for me!

[ntsqd]

Looking good. Where are those jerry can holders from? Are they designed specific to the Sceptor cans or will the steel NATO cans work too?
AT sells them. (http://www.adventuretrailers.com/fuel.html)

[Martyn]

AT sells them. (http://www.adventuretrailers.com/fuel.html)

We are temporarily out of stock on the can holders.

The price of the raw materials increased significantly so we are shopping the design around to various fabricators trying to reduce the cost of manufacturing. So far we haven't had much luck, and we do not intend to have them made overseas to save a buck.

I'll be putting a notice that we are out of stock on the www.adventuretrailers.com web site and I'll change that when I have a date they will be back on our shelves.

[kcowyo]

Excellent work Nic. :clapsmile

Great photos and details. You've created the blueprint that any other Bantam owner could follow. Very cool to see you bringing new life into an old workhorse.

Nice work.

[p1michaud]

Nic,
Very clever on the gas strut mounting. You are making steady progress on the trailer, job well done.




We are temporarily out of stock on the can holders.

The price of the raw materials increased significantly so we are shopping the design around to various fabricators trying to reduce the cost of manufacturing. So far we haven't had much luck, and we do not intend to have them made overseas to save a buck.

I'll be putting a notice that we are out of stock on the www.adventuretrailers.com web site and I'll change that when I have a date they will be back on our shelves.

I'll be keeping and eye out for the notice. Hopefully you will be able to source them for approximately the same price.

[cruiseroutfit]

Looking great Nic :cool:

I'll be interested to see how your "piano" hinge setup holds up to the elements. I ended up replacing my first hinge after a couple of years, had I done better job of keeping it clean and lubricated it might have lasted longer?

[IH8RDS]

Looks good. Unfortinatly I have to wait till it warms up this spring to start mine.

[Willman]

Thanks guys for the kind words! I'm very happy with the outcome of the gas shocks for the lid!......Lifting the lid for the first time made me smile! Those are cool!

:wings:


Looking great Nic :cool:

I'll be interested to see how your "piano" hinge setup holds up to the elements. I ended up replacing my first hinge after a couple of years, had I done better job of keeping it clean and lubricated it might have lasted longer?

Great point here Kurt!.....What did you replace it with?? (SS or just steel)


Mounting options with the steel were great....Price was cheaper than others (SS, Alum).......I'm going to have to keep her all lubed up and store out of the weather......Little WD-40 after trips and a few shots of lube to keep the rust out.....

Time will only tell......Going to keep a close watch on this...I want it to last for years!


:Astrologist:

[Maximus Ram]

Looks real good....have a question , though....from what I have been seeing on the trailers, there is a prefernce to having the hinge on the side and not the front...is there a specific reason ?

Thanks
Matt

[ntsqd]

FWIW consider something other than WD-40 for the hinge. Based on my experiences in cleaning customer firearms that were lubed with it, it isn't all that great at keeping the crud out.

My lube de jour is Maxima Motorcycle Chain Wax which isn't wet or sticky/gummy once the solvent has evaporated. The only failure place for it so far has been the door limiters in the Suburban.

Matt, I suspect that an end opening lid would be harder to open due to where the CG of an RTT would be. Could be offset with higher lift value gas springs.....

[gpwpat]

How stiff is your lid? I used angle iron for my lid and skinned it. it is very flexable. I flat mounted my tent on the lid with rubber mounts but it was still to flexable so I took the rubber pads out and now the structure of the tent has really stiffened up the lid. This works fine but now I want to put a rack rails in so I can haul other things on the Trailer Like a couple of bikes.

My next version of a lid will be similar to the adventure trailer lid. so I can get taller stuff in there. I am at my limit. and still wish to put more stuff in there.

also If you change your gas strut location or length you can really get it to open up. Seems like a tight squeese to pack it at that angle.

What are you doing with your old fenders? need to sell them?

Here is mine so you can see how wide you can get it to open with a different arangement of struts.
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1270/medium/DSC05108.JPG

The 1800 is a great tent. perfect size for the trailer and my family.

When I built my lid I wanted it to open from the side as it allows easier access. you don't have to reach as far to get to everything. Another possible reason is if your tent hinges on the same side as the lid hinge you can open your trailer with the tent deployed, rather than fold up the tent then open the traler. This is one more thing I discovered after the fact. I need to turn my tent around.


Hey does anybody know if the dimensions on a Adventure trailer lid are similar to a Bantam. Could one be retrofitted to work?

[Maximus Ram]

I was just curious , because the trailer that i aquired for free is made from an old Willys truck bed w/ tailgate and seeing how xtra bracing was needed to put the strut in got me to thinking. But that would make sense on it being able to open when the RTT is deployed.

Thanks

[Willman]

Thanks guys for the kind words!


How stiff is your lid?

Solid! I used 1 1/4" x 1 1/4" tube instead of the 1"x1" as i said earlyer......My shop guys gave me the wrong stuff on the our metal rack and i went to town on the 1 1/4" tube with my frame on my lid.....:oops:

I really like the 1 1/4" tube better than the 1" stuff.....It feels more solid.


also If you change your gas strut location or length you can really get it to open up. Seems like a tight squeese to pack it at that angle.

With the lid open...i have 2' opening...I also have a trailgate....I going to make the rear cross bar removeable for those big items....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04031.jpg



What are you doing with your old fenders? need to sell them?

Love to sell them...PM sent


;)

[Willman]

I'm a McMaster fan.....

Just ordered 2 of their SS lockable Draw Latch #12435A43 on pg. 2915 to keep my lid down.....

This baby has a load rating of 1100 lbs.......I only got this one due to the padlock hole size being big enough for my locks....Other words....Depending on what type of lock you want to run...you could get the smaller size for less $$$.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/13435A430L.gif

:jumping:

[Tucson T4R]

Those latches are the same type that are on my KK trailer lid. I have 3 on each side and they work great. When stored in my garage, I keep them loose so as to not compress the seals. Then I tighten them down before heading out on a trip. Nice choice IMHO

[Willman]

Those latches are the same type that are on my KK trailer lid. I have 3 on each side and they work great. When stored in my garage, I keep them loose so as to not compress the seals. Then I tighten them down before heading out on a trip. Nice choice IMHO

Brad...Thanks for the infor.!

You Rock!

Your my ice cream hero!.....(It's a ET thing)...lol

:camping:

[IZZYDUSIT]

Nice choice Nic, I have looked at those when I built mine but could not come up of a mounting idea because of the angle between the lid lip and the tub body. It seems as though you'll need a straight up and down angle between the two parts. I thought about building a spacer plate for that reason, but seemd like too much of a problem.
I'd love to see your solution when you come up with one bud. to lock my lid I just drilled a hole into the lid,framework and inserted a ballmount lock. I saw the method here on the trailer forum a while back and it looked like a simple solution.

[Tucson T4R]

.................Your my ice cream hero!.....(It's a ET thing)...lol

:camping:

:jump: That was fun being able to hand out ice cream in 90+ degree desert heat to all the children.........both the young and old ones. :shakin:

[Willman]

Nice choice Nic, I have looked at those when I built mine but could not come up of a mounting idea because of the angle between the lid lip and the tub body. It seems as though you'll need a straight up and down angle between the two parts. I thought about building a spacer plate for that reason, but seemd like too much of a problem.
I'd love to see your solution when you come up with one bud.

Your right on the $$$$$

First, going to see what i'm up against when the parts get here.....

Few options:


Spacer plate bolted on the trailer box (straight up and down angle between the two parts)

See if the latch can pull off that angle....Might have to fab up a shim on the top (lid) part at an angle to take some of the stress off


The parts should get here soon.....I'll make something work......Gotta love custom work!!!!

Keep ya posted

:26_7_2:

[ntsqd]

Is the discussion about those draw-latches being able to pull at angle other than 90* relative to, say, the seal surface?

If so, I don't see any issue beyond being able to actually be able to get the bail over the anchor. There will be a loss in clamping strength in the vertical plane (trig), but I somehow doubt that's an issue with these in this application. :)

[Willman]

Just about pulled an all-nigher......

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04099.jpg

Got lots done!

-Pulled fenders off...AT ones be here next month

-Got my draw hatches mounted...used a piece of small "c" channel 1 1/2" wide and 3" long. Gives the hatches 1/2" spacer. Works and looks great...

-Drilled and installed bolts on the rear leg for the gas lid shock. Used 5/16 bolts.

-Primed & Painted the lid. Used undercoating spray under the lid to keep the tin can sound down a little....

Sorry for the lack of pictures....Forgot my camera......But did stop by the shop today and took this shot above.

:26_7_2:

[IZZYDUSIT]

BRAVO!!
Now go to work and get us some eye candy...lol
good going bud, keep it up

[Willman]

I'm a McMaster fan.....

Just ordered 2 of their SS lockable Draw Latch #12435A43 on pg. 2915 to keep my lid down.....

This baby has a load rating of 1100 lbs.......I only got this one due to the padlock hole size being big enough for my locks....Other words....Depending on what type of lock you want to run...you could get the smaller size for less $$$.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/13435A430L.gif

:jumping:


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04163.jpg

The latch turned out great!!!!

:)

[Willman]

Well...sorry everyone......just moved into a much bigger basecamp with a garage!

Time to get busy!!!!...Here we go!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04350.jpg

I used a rubber grommet to seal off where the bolts go into the lid to keep the weather out!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04352.jpg

Got the RTT all mounted up!......Still need to mount & paint the fenders black....I just rested the fender on the old mounts to give you an idea of how cool those AT fenders are!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04354.jpg

[tdesanto]

Dude, this is so lookin' good.

Great job; very creative.

Overall, it's starting to look quite professional. I can't wait to check this out in person!

ET baby, ET.

[OldSven]

Much nicer than those factory fenders. One day the rain will stop up here and I can start catching up to you:REOutIceFishing:

Looking good!!! Are the latches mounted right to the body or is there a metal spacer behind it to stand it out some more?

[mountainpete]

Looks great Nic!

[Willman]

Much nicer than those factory fenders. One day the rain will stop up here and I can start catching up to you:REOutIceFishing:

Looking good!!! Are the latches mounted right to the body or is there a metal spacer behind it to stand it out some more?


Thanks guys....


The mounts are mounted to a piece of small "c" channel that gives it the right height to work out!

Back to her!!!.....Love having a garage!

-Get the fenders mounted
-Dismount and paint!!!


:REExeSquatsHL1:

[Gregny]

Looking great Nic, I'll be waiting to see it all finished :lurk: .

[durango_60]

Great job Nic! Hailey has really grown.

Any suggestions where I can get a good looking lid like that???:chowtime:

[Willman]

Thanks guys!


Great job Nic! Hailey has really grown.

Any suggestions where I can get a good looking lid like that???:chowtime:


I'll sell ya one;)




Painting fenders!!!!........Primer & undercoat is on......

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04361.jpg


:REExeSquatsHL1:

[blupaddler]

Nic, the trailer is looking really nice!



By the way, I notice you still have the lunette ring...
How has that worked for you so far?
Do you plan on upgrading to the (brain fart) swivel model?




I'll sell ya one;)


Got another? Although the dimensions would be different...

[MoGas]

By the way, I notice you still have the lunette ring...
How has that worked for you so far?
Do you plan on upgrading to the (brain fart) swivel model?


The pintle hook/lunette ring IS the upgrade. The true K.I.S.S. setup.

[MoGas]

The pintle hook/lunette ring IS the upgrade. The true K.I.S.S. setup.


Looking at the thread further, he opted for the lock-n-roll. I guess those are OK too.

[Willman]

Looking at the thread further, he opted for the lock-n-roll. I guess those are OK too.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC02945.jpg

Lock N' Roll is a great hitch setup!

I have loved mine!

Great offroad hitch!......Another great point is that the trailer becomes harder to steal if i make a basecamp for a few days.....I also do carry a 12' chain with a lock to keep the honest........honest.....

:elkgrin:

[blupaddler]

Thanks. I thought you had the lock'n'roll.
However, when I was looking at one of your pictures I thought I saw a ring...

[MoGas]

The lock-n-roll seems fine, and true, it would be much harder to steal. It is just to "busy" with more potential failure points for my tastes, especially since I am already kitted out with the pintle hook.

Please realize that I mean no ill will. I work in an industry that does failure analysis and I just think simplicity. It is how I am programmed.

[Willman]

^ Not a Problem MoGas.....I like to hear what people think!

No worries!

:camping:

[p1michaud]

Superb additions to a cool trailer. Here's to some :camping: in the days ahead!
Cheers :beer:,
P

[Willman]

Superb additions to a cool trailer. Here's to some :camping: in the days ahead!
Cheers :beer:,
P


Thanks P!


Can't wait to see what you have cooking for your new RTT!!!



;)

[p1michaud]

Can't wait to see what you have cooking for your new RTT!!!

Need one important piece of the puzzle before I can continue...:box:

[Willman]

Got my jack all welded on!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04371.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04372.jpg



;)

[Willman]

Used SS hardware....Looks great!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04374.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04375.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04379.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04376.jpg

Now time to hit the trail!

Still need to wire up the truck & trailer with the 7 wire for the brakes!...pile of parts....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04366.jpg

:D

[OldSven]

Looks awsome all done up:drool: Getting alittle jealous up here:(

[p1michaud]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04376.jpg

Wow,
Now if that picture does not sceam:" I'm ready for a road trip" I don't know what does! :safari-rig:


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04366.jpg

Where did you score the Fridge? How do you plan to mount it? :box:

Cheers,
P

[Willman]

Thanks Oldsven & P!


Where did you score the Fridge? How do you plan to mount it?

I got it from a local ExPo'er!..60 L....It's huge!....I think i'm going to mount it in the back of my tacoma.......but my trailer still seems a great spot too.....


:REOutArchery02:

[cruiseroutfit]

...Now time to hit the trail!...

Ummm, yeah!

We need to get you out with us one of these times :cool:

[Moody]

Very nice!!

Sure has come a long way...it looks like a million bucks!

[Paul R]

That trailer looks amazing!
You did a great job with it :)

[Rezarf <><]

Congrats on making a classic... EVEN BETTER!

Great build man, get out and enjoy it now! :D:victory:

[ckkone]

Nice work Nic!

[tdesanto]

Nic,

The trailer is really coming together. What an excellent and professional job you've done. I can't wait to check it out in person.

TD

[kcowyo]

Sure has come a long way...it looks like a million bucks!

x2

Can't wait to see it soon.

[Willman]

Thanks guys!

I'm very happy on how she turned out!

Little list to do


-paint under fenders
-wire truck & trailer for brakes
-fix tailgate...(little bent)
-mount fridge...(in truck)


Hoping to sneak off to southern Utah in a few weeks depending on my wifes work schedule....

:)

[highlandercj-7]

That thing is looking so sweet behind your toy. I love the color match.

[Willman]

Playing with the Eezi-Awn (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)!!! Got the wife and kid all pumped for this season of ExPo travel!!....All i need is more time off and better weather!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04391.jpg

Gotta do a little bumper gate work....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04362.jpg

I going to cut about 18" or so off my gate arm and do a screw style locking deal.....I'm sick of unhooking the trailer to get into the back of my truck....Going to cut where the chain is.......Thought about lenghting my trailer tongue...but it is just right for the size of the trailer....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04363.jpg

;)

[Terracoma]

I possess the envy.

:drool:

[lx450landcruiser]

.I'm sick of unhooking the trailer to get into the back of my truck....

;)[/QUOTE]


Just make a hard left turn every time you park. :ylsmoke:

[Willman]

.I'm sick of unhooking the trailer to get into the back of my truck....

;)


Just make a hard left turn every time you park. :ylsmoke:



Forgot to say.....I'm sick of that too!!!.....When you are on a tight trail....It's no fun!

Time to cut her off!

:punk03:

[IH8RDS]

.I'm sick of unhooking the trailer to get into the back of my truck....

;)


Just make a hard left turn every time you park. :ylsmoke:[/QUOTE]

That what I have to do too.

[jeepboyd]

could you show a pic of how your rtt is mounted to the lid? thanx

[Willman]

could you show a pic of how your rtt is mounted to the lid? thanx

Here you go:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04396.jpg

Four bolts hold her down......She is mounted right to the cross bars...

Hope this helps!

;)

[jeepboyd]

thank you sir . that is very helpful the trailer is looking sweet

[tdesanto]

Playing with the Eezi-Awn (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)!!! Got the wife and kid all pumped for this season of ExPo travel!!....All i need is more time off and better weather!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04391.jpg

Gotta do a little bumper gate work....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04362.jpg

I going to cut about 18" or so off my gate arm and do a screw style locking deal.....I'm sick of unhooking the trailer to get into the back of my truck....Going to cut where the chain is.......Thought about lenghting my trailer tongue...but it is just right for the size of the trailer....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04363.jpg

;)

Nic,

Have you thought about a receiver extension? I used an 11" receiver extension on the tongue of the trailer so that I can clear my rear door. Redline did something similar, but he had a longer one custom made. The one here (http://www.etrailer.com/p-RM-071.htm)may not be the right length, but there are other options out there.

I like this, because it's not permanent and it give's me just enough clearance if the trailer is straight behind, and plenty of clearance if I turn slightly to the left. This might still work even if you're on tight trails, because you wouldn't have to turn as much to the left.

I'm just throwing that out there before you start cutting.

TD

[Willman]

Nic,

Have you thought about a receiver extension? I used an 11" receiver extension on the tongue of the trailer so that I can clear my rear door. Redline did something similar, but he had a longer one custom made. The one here (http://www.etrailer.com/p-RM-071.htm)may not be the right length, but there are other options out there.

I like this, because it's not permanent and it give's me just enough clearance if the trailer is straight behind, and plenty of clearance if I turn slightly to the left. This might still work even if you're on tight trails, because you wouldn't have to turn as much to the left.

I'm just throwing that out there before you start cutting.

TD


Thanks Tony.......I think i'm going to give that a try!.....The guy at the local trailer store talked about using one but he was out of stock.....Time is short around here...I would rather be spending time with my family out camping then cutting her up.....

Thanks for the push!......I'll give her a try!

As always.....You rock Tony!......Now we will have sweet trailers for the up and coming ET!!! Can't wait for that camp fire talk!!!!


;)

[tdesanto]

Thanks Tony.......I think i'm going to give that a try!.....The guy at the local trailer store talked about using one but he was out of stock.....Time is short around here...I would rather be spending time with my family out camping then cutting her up.....

Thanks for the push!......I'll give her a try!


You can connect the trailer and test a couple slight left turns and measure the clearance you need. As noted, the 11" might not be enough to clear that swing-a-way.

Here are several more options if you need more clearance:

http://www.etrailer.com/c-extender.htm

At first I laughed at the ones with the step included. But now I wish mine had it for hopping inbetween truck and trailer isntead of walking all the way around.



As always.....You rock Tony!......Now we will have sweet trailers for the up and coming ET!!! Can't wait for that camp fire talk!!!!
;)

Lookin' forward to it brother...lookin' forward to it.

[flyingwil]

Doesn't the hitch extension cause the hitch to drag more?

Looks great Nic!

[tdesanto]

Doesn't the hitch extension cause the hitch to drag more?

Looks great Nic!

Yes, if you install it in the hitch receiver on the truck, but only minimally if you install it on the trailer in order to lengthen the tongue.

The coupler would remain in the same location with regard to the truck.

Extending the tongue will only affect break-over angle somewhat (between rear axle and trailer axle), but with the clearance that he has on his truck and trailer, it will probably not be an issue.

[flyingwil]

Yes, if you install it in the hitch receiver on the truck, but only minimally if you install it on the trailer in order to lengthen the tongue.

The coupler would remain in the same location with regard to the truck.

Extending the tongue will only affect break-over angle somewhat (between rear axle and trailer axle), but with the clearance that he has on his truck and trailer, it will probably not be an issue.


D'oh... I was thinking the wrong way!:mixed-smiley-030:

[ntsqd]

D'oh... I was thinking the wrong way!:mixed-smiley-030:
So was I, and was about to caution on what that would do to leverage against the hitch frame. What about effective tongue weights etc.? I've not had occasion to tow with the TrailBlazer's extendable tongue in the extended position.

[Willman]

Went up in the mountains yesterday....Nice to get out!!! Few shots...Enjoy!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04468.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04465.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04489.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04509.jpg

;)

[kcowyo]

That's looking tremendous Nic. You should really, really be proud of the work you've done. You've got talent.

Can't wait to see it up close and in person soon -

[cruiseroutfit]

Looking good Will, where did you go?

[tdesanto]

Well done, sir; well done!

Looking really good.

I like the shot from above on the hill looking down on the whole setup.

Very nice indeed.

[Willman]

Thanks guys!....I'm very happy with the out come!


Where did you go?

My Father-in-law owns a lot of land up Provo Canyon right on the river.....We will have to do a meet and greet there!

:)

[pint]

Great job on the trailer! I am using it as one of the models for my M101 buildup.

[p1michaud]

Went up in the mountains yesterday....Nice to get out!!! Few shots...Enjoy!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04465.jpg

Fantastic! I love how the rig and trailer really "pop" out in that picture will at the green scenery.

Glad you have been able to enjoy all the hard work.

Cheers,
P

[Paul R]

Wow!
Looks great!
:clapsmile


My Father-in-law owns a lot of land up Provo Canyon right on the river.....We will have to do a meet and greet there!

:)

Sounds good to me :)

[Willman]

Wow!
Sounds good to me :)


I plan having a bunch of meet & greets once the weather starts to warm up around here! Lots of great places around here!

:camping:

[ckkone]

I plan having a bunch of meet & greets once the weather starts to warm up around here! Lots of great places around here!

:camping:

I'm looking forward to that!

[SGT Superman]

I looked through your thread and didn't see, but where did you get your new axle and brakes? I am wanting to put the same size tires on my trailer as my jeep, but don't know how to get the right size.

[Willman]

I looked through your thread and didn't see, but where did you get your new axle and brakes? I am wanting to put the same size tires on my trailer as my jeep, but don't know how to get the right size.

First off...Welcome to the ExPo!

I got my axle with brakes from a local trailer parts store.....I shopped around pretty hard and decited it was a better deal to keep my $$$$ here in my state. Shipping killed the deal...plus i have a shop and people to talk to if i have a question.

On the last part of your posted.....Could you go into more detail....:confused:

[SGT Superman]

Sure, I want to put wider tires on the axle, but the stock axle is more than likely going to be too short I would imagine, unless I put spacers in.

Could I just change out the bolt pattern to fit my wheels and add a spacer if needed?

[Willman]

Sure, I want to put wider tires on the axle, but the stock axle is more than likely going to be too short I would imagine, unless I put spacers in.

Could I just change out the bolt pattern to fit my wheels and add a spacer if needed?

I'm sure you could....I don't have any infor for ya.........Might want to search google for the spacers and start a new thread on it.....

I found it easier to just buy a new axle.....

Sorry.....Good luck!......

;)

[masterplumber]

Thanks Tony.......I think i'm going to give that a try!.....The guy at the local trailer store talked about using one but he was out of stock.....Time is short around here...I would rather be spending time with my family out camping then cutting her up.....

Thanks for the push!......I'll give her a try!

As always.....You rock Tony!......Now we will have sweet trailers for the up and coming ET!!! Can't wait for that camp fire talk!!!!


;)
This post is proably way to late but have you tried putting the hitch extention on the trailer instead of the truck? Looking at the pictures it looks like the lock & roll hitch just slides into a standard receiver on the tounge of the trailer?

[Willman]

This post is proably way to late but have you tried putting the hitch extention on the trailer instead of the truck? Looking at the pictures it looks like the lock & roll hitch just slides into a standard receiver on the tounge of the trailer?

Welcome to the ExPo!

No worries....

I have welded the lock n' roll to the tounge......The only way a extension would work is coming off the truck...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC04362.jpg


I have decided to to cut my gate down and do some remodeling some time in the next little while.....

I'm going to add a LightForce Stubby Worklight (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=372) to the gate for a backup light.

Should come out great....

;)

[Jason Y]

Got an new axle with elec. brakes.......

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03915.jpg

Wired wheeled the leaf springs and gave them a fresh coat of paint.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03916.jpg

Installing the new brakes...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03917.jpg

Here she is!!! I found a used set of BF AT's in a 285 for a temporary fix on 16x8 Wheelers black steelies ( type B) to match the truck......going to 255's in the future.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC03921.jpg

The tires stuck out about 2".....Down the road...the 255's will help with that. I have about 2 1/2" in the fender at the bottom.

Still lots to do.....


Rewire trailer for brakes
Wire tow rig w/ brake controller
bath!
Lid for the RTT
and the list goes on....


:)


Is there any chance you saved the part #'s and company you ordered these items from? And possibly the cost?

I have a Bantam, and was thinking of having the hubs redrilled for toyota 6 lug. The quote was 110.00 from the local axle shop.

I am interested in replacing the complete axle.

After reading all the pages I caught the "local trailer parts shop", I am still interested in the part #'s or perhaps the width of axle.


Also, why brakes. I am a newbie to the offroad trailer thing. I don't see the "need for brakes" On a 1/4 ton trailer. (please explain)

[Willman]

Is there any chance you saved the part #'s and company you ordered these items from? And possibly the cost?

I have a Bantam, and was thinking of having the hubs redrilled for toyota 6 lug. The quote was 110.00 from the local axle shop.

I am interested in replacing the complete axle.

After reading all the pages I caught the "local trailer parts shop", I am still interested in the part #'s or perhaps the width of axle.


Also, why brakes. I am a newbie to the offroad trailer thing. I don't see the "need for brakes" On a 1/4 ton trailer. (please explain)

Welcome to the ExPo!

I have no part #'s for you.....It is a 3500 lb. axle with 10" drums brakes 6 on 5.5 lugs....$257 out the door if i remember right......(complete -axle,brakes,bearings,etc.)

Brakes???

- When going down a very steep drop......worth every penny!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Moab%205-26-08/DSC04597.jpg

- I can lock the brakes up to jack knife if i get in a tight spot on a trail and need to backup quick.

- If i don't want the trailer to go over a rock or stump.....I can lock the brakes and drag the trailer bumping pass the object.

Overall.....having brakes on my trailer has been the best mod besides my Eezi-Awn!

Hope this helps!

;)

[Jason Y]

As they say " a picture is worth a thousand words".

So you can control the brakes "manually", what are you using for a controller?

[Willman]

As they say " a picture is worth a thousand words".

So you can control the brakes "manually", what are you using for a controller?

I use a Tekonsha Prodigy.....best out their in my opinion!

Lever to manually lock the brakes up!

Here is a great thread on controllers!

http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9968&highlight=brake+controllers

;)

[tdesanto]

I use a Tekonsha Prodigy.....best out their in my opinion!
;)

The Tekonsha P-3 (http://www.etrailer.com/pc-BC~90195.htm) ain't bad either.

[Jason Y]

Thanks- for that price I will check into a complete axle with brakes.

I figure there is some collector out there that would be interested in my old one for his military jeep.(Ebay)

[Robert Bills]

Thanks- for that price I will check into a complete axle with brakes. I figure there is some collector out there that would be interested in my old one for his military jeep.(Ebay)

Try selling it on www.G503.com (http://www.G503.com). That's where you will find most military trailer collecters.

[Willman]

Try selling it on www.G503.com (http://www.G503.com). That's where you will find most military trailer collecters.

Thanks for the link.....I got my old axle still too!

;)

[Jason Y]

Thanks for the link.....I got my old axle still too!

;)


+1

[Willman]

I have been wanting to weld in a hitch for the longest time!....Well...got some time from school....

All primed up! Needs a coat of black....

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC05875.jpg

Note to self.....I hate overhead welding!!!.....My welds always suck!...If i had more time and a helper....I would have used my bridge crane to hoist the trailer in the air....oh well...:ylsmoke:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Trailer/DSC05877.jpg

I'm going to be doing some testing with this hitch setup....My trailer box is welded to the frame....most boxs i have seen are bolted to the frame...

I might need to add some steel strapping like a "V" style on the middle channel.....

In my opinion...I would not pull extremely hard in a recovery situation with the tow rig.....The frame seems to be pretty light to me...

The hitch is going to be used for a bike rack and for light recovery.

:)

[masterplumber]

Be carefull how much weight you put on the back hitch unless you add an equal amount up front also - otherwise you'll have the tail wagging the dog if you know what I mean.LOL
Doug

[dieselcruiserhead]

Hey Nic, looking good... Bummer because we have an overhead chain hoist that could have done the trick.. Looks good though, agreed the frames are a little chincy but that will be fine for almost all recoveries and as much towing as that trailer could handle IMO, looks strong :) Also really good reading about your brakes, has me thinking... :sombrero:

[Willman]

Hey Nic, looking good... Bummer because we have an overhead chain hoist that could have done the trick.. Looks good though, agreed the frames are a little chincy but that will be fine for almost all recoveries and as much towing as that trailer could handle IMO, looks strong :) Also really good reading about your brakes, has me thinking... :sombrero:

Thanks!.......

I left my leathers at home:( ....Lets say i got a few burns!!

I'm happy with the out come.....

Brakes.....I love mine!....Very handy on the trail!....Also fun in icy parking lots with getting the tow rig and trailer sideways:)

[chrisngrod]

Hello. New to the forum. I'm trying to rebuild a M-416 and am having my friend do the metal work.

What did you mean by bumping pass the object (referencing brakes). I'm trying to figure out my best suspension option here. Did you check out Adventure Trailer's kit? I e-mailed about them because I saw it on someone else's build. It's expensive but probably works really well.

Did you happen to mention where you got your axle? I saw a place in Alabama I can get some stuff for a good price.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Saw you talked about the AT suspension. After sending them an e-mail though....


Chris

We still offer the independent suspension system. It's a little more complex than the original set up and needs to be installed by our fabricators.

Cost runs around $2000.00

Martyn

Martyn Davies
VP Adventure Trailers LLC
Toll Free: 1-877-661-8097
Cell: 1-530-307-0054
martyn@adventuretrailers.com
http://www.adventuretrailers.com/
http://www.atreport.com/


Too much for me right now. Might as well buy an AT.

[Lulo]

Great Job! :victory:


Your trailer jumps a lot when on the road do not have weight???

If you ever choose to build a trailer, I copy many of your ideas, sorry amigo! :sombrero: :sombrero:

[chrisngrod]

My custom M-416 bounces around in the back without weight (over some bumps on dirt roads). Nothing that a 4600-5000 lb FJ Cruiser can't handle (modded or else the curb weight would be 4290).

When it isn't loaded correctly (box was shaved off in the front so everything heavy needs to be loaded towards the front as much as possible till I put an air compressor and generator in front of the box) it'll sway pretty bad around 60 mph.

[CA-RJ]

William, what did you end up using for shocks? After taking my Bantam out on its maiden trip, I find that it bounces a lot!

[chrisngrod]

MERCURY-VILLAGER-Shock-Absorber-MONROE

I used Monroe shocks and they seem to do pretty well. Got em cheap off of eBay.

[achampagne]

Could you please give me the dimensions on the AT fenders? I need to place mine and love the look of these but AT is out of stock! I have a buddy who owns a 4x4 shop and can fab them but I need the specs. Thanks,

[SAR_Squid79]

Could you please give me the dimensions on the AT fenders? I need to place mine and love the look of these but AT is out of stock! I have a buddy who owns a 4x4 shop and can fab them but I need the specs. Thanks,

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/dayoldbread/fenders.jpg

[Willman]

Sorry everyone....didn't see i had some hits on my thread....


William, what did you end up using for shocks? After taking my Bantam out on its maiden trip, I find that it bounces a lot!

Nothing as of yet....I air down my tires to 20-25 psi on the road.....Keeping the psi low offroad helps with the bumps..


Hello. New to the forum. I'm trying to rebuild a M-416 and am having my friend do the metal work.

What did you mean by bumping pass the object (referencing brakes). I'm trying to figure out my best suspension option here. Did you check out Adventure Trailer's kit? I e-mailed about them because I saw it on someone else's build. It's expensive but probably works really well.

Did you happen to mention where you got your axle? I saw a place in Alabama I can get some stuff for a good price.

With having brakes on the trailer....I can lockup the brakes and make the tire bump off the object instead of going over it....usually big objects that the trailer could roll.

AT sells the king of all suspension kits if you have the money and fab skills. I know they can also do the swap for you...

http://www.hendersonwheel.com/ - Great guys that are here local but will ship anywhere...


My custom M-416 bounces around in the back without weight (over some bumps on dirt roads). Nothing that a 4600-5000 lb FJ Cruiser can't handle (modded or else the curb weight would be 4290).

When it isn't loaded correctly (box was shaved off in the front so everything heavy needs to be loaded towards the front as much as possible till I put an air compressor and generator in front of the box) it'll sway pretty bad around 60 mph.

Packing your trailer right with all the weight balance is key....Having a lid plus a Eezi-Awn (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=21) has been a great mod for the trailer....It helps in keeping things balanced..

Hope this helps!

;)

[r_unda]

Very nice build! I recently bought a bantam trailer, haven’t done much to it yet. I wish I had yours skills!

[Willman]

Very nice build! I recently bought a bantam trailer, haven’t done much to it yet. I wish I had yours skills!

Thanks!

It doesn't take that many skills.....Wish you luck on your project.

A trailer is sure fun to have until my lab puppy decides to snack on my trailer wiring....

:chef:

[bucketosudz]

Lab pups will snack on more than wiring if given the chance.... ask me how I know. :smilies27

[uscggm]

Willman, do you remember where you bought your axle/brake combo from?

[Willman]

Willman, do you remember where you bought your axle/brake combo from?

Local trailer shop.....

http://hendersonwheel.com/

;)

[FAW3]

Willman...thanks for a great thread! I'm a new Bantam owner and have seen quite a few neat ideas here.

[Willman]

Willman...thanks for a great thread! I'm a new Bantam owner and have seen quite a few neat ideas here.

Right on!

I have been very happy with my outcome!

Good luck to you!

:)

[TheJosh]

Well...Just bought an 1800 series Eezi-Awn Tent (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=14)!!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/Eeziawnlogo.gif

:wings:

Now time to get the lid done!

Also...UPS man just dropped off the McMaster parts...

And ordered up my AT chaser fenders! Thanks Mario!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/1_chaser6.jpg
(adventuretrailers.com)


Life is Good!


where do you order the chaser fenders from? i checked AT and couldnt find them and price?

[TheJosh]

Willman, do you remember where you bought your axle/brake combo from?

i found this link from a friend that ill end up ordering from

http://abctrailerparts.com/axles.html


hey Nic, what width did you order your axle in and are you happy with the tracking on your tacoma with the trailer?

[Willman]

where do you order the chaser fenders from? i checked AT and couldnt find them and price?

Give Mario a call....He can get you setup


i found this link from a friend that ill end up ordering from

http://abctrailerparts.com/axles.html


hey Nic, what width did you order your axle in and are you happy with the tracking on your tacoma with the trailer?

I can't remember the width.....The trailer is in storage right now.....It should be somewhere in this thread....Sorry...