Getting a toddler to sleep?

[AZchris]

We just got back from a quick overnight camping trip to the Grand Canyon and my 19 month old loves playing at the campsite, laying in the hammock, getting in the roof top tent, but we have the hardest time getting her to go to sleep.

We never have her sleep with us and we think that is the main issue, but we are all sharing a tent space so was wondering if anyone else has any input.

[UK4X4]

Normally we have the complete oposite after playing in dirt all day and toddling about she's beat come dinner time

bed time is easy as she's so tired

Mind you we used to miss the miday nap when out and about.

One thing with our little one she has almost zero tolerance to sugar

1 baby drink - yogurt- cokacola after mid day and we have a major issue with sleep come evening

We basicly don't give her anything with sugar after 12- unless we want her up during the evening !

[kjp1969]

bed time is easy as she's so tired


This was our three. Yours is probably just excited to get out of her normal routine.

Try wearing her out during the day- have her run or walk everywhere. Have a big meal at night, then do a "normal" bedtime routine- wash up/pj's/teeth/story. In fact, read story after story (her fav's, of course) until she's out. Makes me sleepy just thinking about it.

At 19 months she's probably still having at least 1 nap during the day- might juggle those nap times to stretch her out a bit before bedtime.

[dirty Bakers]

This was our three. Yours is probably just excited to get out of her normal routine.

Try wearing her out during the day- have her run or walk everywhere. Have a big meal at night, then do a "normal" bedtime routine- wash up/pj's/teeth/story. In fact, read story after story (her fav's, of course) until she's out. Makes me sleepy just thinking about it.

At 19 months she's probably still having at least 1 nap during the day- might juggle those nap times to stretch her out a bit before bedtime.

Take her camping more often.

[AZchris]

I think this will solve most of it.

[Lynn]

Benedryl!


Just kidding.









Mostly.

[SilverBullet]

For our kids, the first night is always a fight, but try a 2-night experience. The second night was easy and each following for us. Just too much excitement and new stuff the first night.

[INSAYN]

Something that we used to use for our son before wash up/pj's/teeth and story's, we had him and his older sister walk around camp with a flashlight and pick up small bits of trash. We would have to strategically drop small bright colored objects around camp during dinner time and make it more of a game for them. He had to carry a small pale and collect as much stuff as possible before washing up. He really thought he was helping us out by keeping the camp clean for us. This used up a lot of his end of the day energy and he would crash pretty quick because of it.

[B.L. Sims]

As everyone else said, wear em out and camp more often with them if possible. The first part is pretty self explanatory but the latter will allow them to become more comfortable with sleeping outdoors and in places aside from their own home. The earlier you start this, the better. At a year and a half your on the right track!

[kjp1969]

I try to remind myself that unless you're driving, car trips are pretty boring. Kids see nothing but the seat in front of them. They're often too little to get a good view out of the side windows, and everything goes by pretty fast for little eyes to absorb. If you keep them cooped up for a full day of driving, you'd better have a full-on soccer game waiting for them when they're set free. Better (I think) to stop frequently and run them around, go on hikes, collect rocks, look at bugs, etc.

[Rocket Ship]

Benedryl!

Just kidding.

Mostly.

I think this is the dirty little secret that is used more often than anybody would like to admit. I have to say I have had to resort to it a few times, at 2AM in the morning. It doesn't make me feel good, but I think the damage is much less than what could be caused by sleep deprived parents.

There. I said it. Somebody had to.

[shortbus4x4]

I think this is the dirty little secret that is used more often than anybody would like to admit. I have to say I have had to resort to it a few times, at 2AM in the morning. It doesn't make me feel good, but I think the damage is much less than what could be caused by sleep deprived parents.

There. I said it. Somebody had to.

I had a few kids that used to get car sick so for road trips my wife would get dramamine, some of it had benadryl in it and some didn't. We called the benadryl dramamine "the good ones" and the non drowsy dramamine the not so good ones. Nothing like looking in the back seat and seeing all three kids asleep instead of listening to "he crossed over the line" fighting.:victory:

[mbtytc07]

Doctor recommend my wife and I melatonin when we were in dire straits with our 2 1/2 yr old, before his sister was born. We have found it helpful when all else fails. 1 mg per year old was what we were told - for three and up (based on a recent study at the time). It "promotes" sleep so if the kids are midnite wakers, no help their.

It definitely works and is not as guilt inducing as Benadryl. We used a little (1/2 a 3mg )for our 2yr old on recent camping trip and once again, like her brother, found her quietly asleep within twenty minutes.

[kjp1969]

Before our oldest's first plane flight (she was +- 18 mos), our doc recommended that we bring some in reserve, just in case she flipped out at 30k feet. Sleeping kid on your lap for 3 hrs = sweet. Freaking out kid on your lap for 3 hrs = by any means necessary.

[LandCruiserPhil]

Benedryl!
Just kidding.
Mostly.

I agree and Im not kidding at all!

:26_7_2:

[Danimal]

I'll be camping this fall with my 19 month old as well - I appreciate the tips in the beginning of this thread.

Dan

[TRegasaurus]

I would use Dramamine over Benadryl if I had a choice as I think Benadryl is just a tad too strong. IMO you only want to take the edge off, not drug them to sleep, otherwise their sleep won't be a natural one.

[CoastalDefender]

I just let mine run around like slightly insane, mostly small people. That tends to tucker them out well enough.

Also, when not camping, they have a good routine of up at 0600 and to bed my 1930, so sleep tends to come earlier rather than later with them.

[5Runner]

We didn't start camping until we had all the kids, so it's not the same experience, but we used a portable dvd player in the tent. They were already so tired, they passed out quickly. Watching a movie made it less uncomfortable and strange to them being in a tent. However, I don't know if this would work with just one child. Maybe if it's their favorite movie, and you start watching it with them?

After the first year of camping we didn't have to use the dvd player anymore for bedtime.

[Rocket Ship]

I just let mine run around like slightly insane, mostly small people. That tends to tucker them out well enough.

Also, when not camping, they have a good routine of up at 0600 and to bed my 1930, so sleep tends to come earlier rather than later with them.

My kids have the exact same rigid routine at home. They also have all the opportunity to run around at camp. They still don't fall asleep easily. We had a bit of trouble with my boy when he was younger, but he's pretty good now. But my daughter is really difficult to get to sleep at ~20 months. It's just too exciting for her to be in this strange place lying down next to Mom. She sleeps well at home, and has been in a real twin size bed since she was ~16 months (due to a penchant for climbing out of her crib) but the tent is just too exciting.

All kids are different. And the only thing worse than kids who won't sleep is parents who judge other parents based on the experiences with their own kids. All kids are different. That's why nobody has written a definitive owners manual for them.

FYI, Dramamine 1 is essentially the same drug as Benedryl but also contains Theophylline, a stimulant like caffeine. Dramamine 2 is a different drug altogether, meclizine, and causes even less drowsyness. I'd even question the point of using it. Just use a half-dose or even less of Benadryl.

Dramamine 1 also takes much longer to take effect, up to 4 hours, and then lasts longer, could still be in effect the next day. Not really what you want if you've been struggling to get them to sleep drug-free until 2AM.

[Uncle Roger]

We just got back from a quick overnight camping trip to the Grand Canyon and my 19 month old loves playing at the campsite, laying in the hammock, getting in the roof top tent, but we have the hardest time getting her to go to sleep.
Leave her home. 19 months is plenty old enough to fend for herself. Heck, mine had jobs and their own apartment by then.

(Just kidding.)