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Plannerman
08-13-2011, 06:56 AM
Does any one have any experience with this gear? Thinking about their soft-shell.


http://www.condoroutdoor.com/

Ludedude
08-13-2011, 07:24 AM
It's cheap made in China gear. Probably serviceable but nothing approaching high end.

NuggetHoarder
08-13-2011, 08:51 AM
I'm only familiar with their molle gear. Condor is not that bad. They have a bad rap because it's made in China but the prices are incredibly cheap compared to American made molle gear. I've heard that their quality has improved greatly over the past year.

Make sure you read all the buyer's comments on the Condor site and on whatever retailer's site you're buying from. That's saved me from a few mistakes.

BTW, cheaperthandirt.com carries almost the entire Condor line and they have a pretty low markup.

Plannerman
08-14-2011, 04:41 AM
No one with experience with their clothing, then?

85CUCV
08-14-2011, 02:05 PM
I've been considering one of their Phantom soft shell jackets. Guys I kinow that have them are happy with the price vs quality.

Dan

NuggetHoarder
08-14-2011, 04:17 PM
I was talking to someone about this last night and they said to be wary of the zippers. They are not self-repairing and will blow out if you put too much pressure on them. I don't have any first hand knowledge of that though.

85CUCV
08-14-2011, 05:16 PM
Reviews on US CAV online catalog also mention zipper failure.

cnynrat
08-14-2011, 05:30 PM
We have a couple of their double rifle bags that we use for transporting our AR's. While we haven't put them to any sort of extreme test, they seem to be well made.

teotwaki
08-14-2011, 06:10 PM
Molle gear is heavy enough but Condor gear seems to add to that weight with thicker materials. For clothing I've only used some hats and the dyes they used were not the best. Fasteners have been inconsistent in quality. Definitely throw-away hats that you can abuse and not care about losing.

In my very biased opinion, the best softshells are made of Polartec "Power Shield" material. I don't know what Condor uses.

Nice deal on Lowe Alpine Jacket:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lowe-alpine-polartec-power-shield-jacket-for-men~p~3726w/?utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=PaidShopping&utm_term=Lowe_Alpine_Polartec_Power_Shield_Jacket_ For_Men&utm_campaign=PCGOOGLEBASE11&codes-processed=true

I lived in my Arcteryx jacket and pants for 2 weeks in Alaska and the Powershield material is awesome.

Apparently there is a Power Sheid Pro version out now that is supposed to be even better.

My next favorite softshell materiall is Windstopper.

Steinbruchsoldat
08-17-2011, 07:58 PM
I used to have one of their Soft shell jackets, and i was really impressed with the quality. Would recommend getting one... :victory:

irish_11
08-19-2011, 11:55 PM
I have one of their rifle cases that I have beat up for 3-4 years now. The zipper failed two months ago. Like everyone else has said watch out for the zippers. But I have a few friends who have their jackets and they really like them.

ETAV8R
09-03-2011, 10:18 PM
We have a couple of their double rifle bags that we use for transporting our AR's. While we haven't put them to any sort of extreme test, they seem to be well made.

Likewise. So far so good.
I also have their tear away EMT pouch and it seems pretty good.

67flat4
09-06-2011, 02:19 PM
I currently have the Summit #602 and love it...
I will be buying another when the one I have is up. I work outside in the rain and it just beads up and rolls off. Nice and quiet, vents well if temps are between wearing it and not. Got it as a gift for X=mas last year and so far so good. the zipper is starting to get a little difficult.

It is not warm but add a hoodie and you're snow bound. They run small so get a size larger. I'm normally a large and my Summit is an XL.

Scott C
09-06-2011, 04:58 PM
I have on of there backpacks and it has held up well considering the price. (half the cost of competitors) but the little pull rope in the zippers does not hold up to being pulled one. The zippers have not failed, they are just hard to close without a pull string.

Plannerman
10-01-2011, 07:24 PM
I picked up one of their range bags a few weeks ago and am so far quite impressed. Seem to be fairly heavy duty construction. We'll see how it holds up.

raven1911
10-02-2011, 12:41 AM
They are great jackets. Go to youtube and type in nutnfancy. He has a very good review of the jacket you are looking at! Highly recommended.

Retarius
01-18-2012, 01:23 PM
Condor may have improved their quality but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. They makeup garbage which will fall apart with any use. Their zippers fail, and seams might as well have been glued together with elmers glue. Their equipment was originally made and geared towards airsoft. I have seen their pouches fail with 3 days use and jackets fail just as fast. I've learned through blowing my hard money that anything that looks like tactical gear s
hould be bought from reputable manufacturer.

I am speaking from light infantry experiance

prometheus
01-30-2012, 10:36 PM
Rgr that!



Condor may have improved their quality but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. They makeup garbage which will fall apart with any use. Their zippers fail, and seams might as well have been glued together with elmers glue. Their equipment was originally made and geared towards airsoft. I have seen their pouches fail with 3 days use and jackets fail just as fast. I've learned through blowing my hard money that anything that looks like tactical gear s
hould be bought from reputable manufacturer.

I am speaking from light infantry experiance

EnjoyProgress
04-02-2012, 05:55 AM
I recently went to the shot show and saw the entire range of tactical gear from the lowest to the highest from many different companies. Condor is not anywhere near the highest grade nor is it the lowest. If you can't afford the best Condor isn't the worst you could go with. Fox tactical is lower quality while being basically the same stuff if you compare the designs. Believe me you can go much lower in quality. Much, much lower.

Personally I am quite pleased with their small pouches.

RLM975
04-02-2012, 10:43 PM
Price for Condor versus fit and finish of 5.11 (which we can get both locally), Condor is well worth it. Officers I work with own a decent amount of Condor gear. So far it stands up to the rigours of a nuclear power plant (off n on n off as you cycle in n out of hardened positions, lots of potential snag/rip/tear opportunities).

762X39
04-02-2012, 10:56 PM
I picked up one of their range bags a few weeks ago and am so far quite impressed. Seem to be fairly heavy duty construction. We'll see how it holds up.
I was going to purchase a shotgun scabbard from them but opted for an Eberlestock instead. The quality, fit and finish is 10 times that of the Condor, well worth the less than 25% premium. Plus at least this way, I kept some north american workers employed.That is worth at least 25% especially because the quality is so much higher.

67flat4
04-03-2012, 04:01 PM
Quick update on my 602
It's still works great.
Still water tight.
Worn everyday through the winter. (albeit a very mild bay area winter)
Zipper is still very functional but you can tell its worn a little.
It gets my recommendation!

BigAl
04-03-2012, 05:53 PM
Does any one have any experience with this gear?


http://www.condoroutdoor.com/

I bought a molle shotgun scabbard from them that it really well made
http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af322/BigBaxter/Tailgate%20cover/runin.jpg

HillbillyfromAL
05-22-2012, 03:53 AM
Condor may have improved their quality but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. They makeup garbage which will fall apart with any use. Their zippers fail, and seams might as well have been glued together with elmers glue. Their equipment was originally made and geared towards airsoft. I have seen their pouches fail with 3 days use and jackets fail just as fast. I've learned through blowing my hard money that anything that looks like tactical gear s
hould be bought from reputable manufacturer.

I am speaking from light infantry experiance

X2 Except Airborne Infantry ;)

TACODOC
05-23-2012, 08:35 PM
Rgr that!

x3

Doesnt Condor make blatant knock off's of Triple Aught Design?

Do yourself and our economy a favor and buy the real thing Made in USA!

.02

Retarius
06-12-2012, 05:58 AM
X2 Except Airborne Infantry ;)

I was all about Airborne, until my first landing. Forget that. I did my 5 and swore that was it. Then I went to Ranger School. I'm not even a fan of civilian sky diving.

k9lestat
06-12-2012, 07:14 AM
i understand buying the real thing, and probably would more often if it was more cost effective for me. i have been lurking round here for a while before i registered. im prior service, currently in law enforcement and am a proud American. maybe the real thing manufactures need to realize not everyone buying this stuff has a po number waiting to pay the tab. i know about tight budgeted living. the reason you have all these tactical goodie manufactures is to try and get the govt business they dont care about john q public. in their mind we do not effect their bottom line. so they sure aren't gonna effect mine either. besides there are plenty of people of means that by this stuff then sell it because its not the flavor of the day. i got straps and alice pack thats good enough for me.

aerozeta
09-28-2012, 09:52 PM
If Condor's gear is heavy with the fabric they are using, try Maxpedition. Maxpedition uses double of PU coating to make their bags and packs stiffs and abrasive as hell.

I own a Condor softshell, it's economic and serves its purpose, nothing fancy, and I get to keep more money in my pocket to buy other things.

zombiekilla
10-01-2012, 07:11 PM
I was talking to someone about this last night and they said to be wary of the zippers. They are not self-repairing and will blow out if you put too much pressure on them. I don't have any first hand knowledge of that though.

The zipper they use is YKK. I own a sewing machine which I make, modify, and repair outdoor gear of my own; I'll share some insights. Doesn't matter which company is using YKK, people trust the name of YKK in zipper, but it isn't neccessarily the best in some applications.

In this case, which I happen to own a Condor softshell. The material is decent, not top of the line and you won't get top of the line unless you want to pay $200+ for a jacket. The dual head zipper suffers from a choppy operation; it's very hard to line up the coil style zipper with 2 zipper heads. But once you line them up, they work flawlessly. You can try to break them in, which it takes a while... But for the price paid, I have no other complaint.

zombiekilla
10-01-2012, 07:13 PM
Quick update on my 602
It's still works great.
Still water tight.
Worn everyday through the winter. (albeit a very mild bay area winter)
Zipper is still very functional but you can tell its worn a little.
It gets my recommendation!

Mine is 602 as well. I wear it in the winter too.

Scott Brady
10-02-2012, 09:27 PM
as an interesting anecdote, I met a guy at the border of Russia and Estonia wearing a Condor Tactical jacket. He was a tactical handgun instructor in Moscow.

NothingClever
11-06-2012, 11:42 AM
I wouldn't purchase the Condor brand. It's never passed the initial hands on review but I'm fortunate to be in that category of folks with a company budget and have choices and folks around me who really test a wide range of kit. I'd move on to find a more reputable brand if the budget isn't too tight.

zombiekilla
11-06-2012, 05:29 PM
A dealer in UTAH sells their softshell jacket to Las Vegas Metro Police. Plus their gear tested by NTOA.
Generally, everything has a lifespan. Some over priced items don't neccessary last as long. I look for practicality over price.