2007 Tundra

[Scott Brady]

I wanted to start a thread to track updates on this new model:

It is rumored to be a true full-size with the availability of a 4.4L Turbo Diesel. There will be plants in Indiana and Texas capable of building up to 250,000 units per year (there are 2.5 million full size trucks sold annually in the US).

The concept vehicle
http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/autoshows/naias2004/toyota/ftx1.jpg

If the vehicle has high levels of functionality and the diesel, it will likely be the replacement for my current Tacoma.

[BajaTaco]

One problem I see with that FTX is the "chop top" and the 2-story tall front end. Visibility must be awful, don't you think?

[Scott Brady]

I am expecting the final product to display Toyota's typical conservative styling.

There is also talk of a hybrid. I have read of a few prius models that have been modified to allow an unlimited fuel range. They use extra batteries and solar cells. Of course you would have to stop for a long time for it all to charge, but the concept is sure interesting...

My preference would still be the diesel though...

[The BN Guy]

Looks like a Ford Super Duty. At least the grill does. Yep, many will be produced down here in San Antonio.

[Desertdude]

Interesting... Before I got my second Tacoma, I wanted to move into a full size, but the Tundra looked to conservative for me. At least this new concept Tundra has some style to it, and the potential for diesel - we wait :coffee:

[Jonathan Hanson]

Toyota needs to start adding SOME style to the Tundra, or the big Nissan is going to kill it. A turbodiesel would be a brilliant addition. So would a coil rear suspension with a self-leveling device. And dual lockers.

Why they haven't imported the 3-liter four-cylinder turbodiesel for the Tacoma I'll never know. 150 horsepower, close to 300 lb/ft of torque if I remember correctly, and 30 mpg.

[The BN Guy]

I don't know about the coils in the rear for load purposes but definitely a diesel. If Nissan were ever to bring the Patrol, both cab and ute platforms, to the US, complete with the 4.2TD, things'll get really interesting.

[Jonathan Hanson]

Properly sized coils should handle loads as well as leafs (look at Unimogs, for example), especially if paired with a load leveler. The original Range Rover had the concept right. The weak link was its central leveling device, which relied on English oil seals, which as everyone here knows by now are molded from Marmite that has passed its sell-by date.

[kevin]

Toyota already has a rear coil system with air bag controlled ride height. It is available on the Lexus LX470. They just need to put it in the trucks!

[dieck]

The Link!!! (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=107016)

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.toyota.tundra/07.tundra.340.jpg

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http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.toyota.tundra/tundra.r34.500.jpg

[BajaTaco]

Wow - thanks for the link! Man, that wheelbase is lookin' kinda scary to me! :Wow1:

[Scott Brady]

Excellent find!

I want diesel :victory:

[lionsbreath]

I hope it looks better then the new Tacoma I am not such a big fan of them and like the styling of my 03 better. The Jeep Liberty runs a 4cyl. turbo benz des. that make 150hp and 295ft torque something like that would be nice in a tacoma. On Top Gear last nite the drove a v8 twin turbo Des. 800 miles on 19.5gals of fuel.

[datrupr]

I watched that also. It was amazing when the car told him he had 0 miles of fuel left and still made it almost 10 miles to his starting point. I had to say that I was very impressed that you could get an 800 mile range from a V8 with only 19 gallons of gas. Whay can't we get this stuff here? I want the Isuzu deisel for the global Troopers in my truck. :(

[jim65wagon]

I wanted to move into a full size, but the Tundra looked to conservative for me.

Ouch man, now you've hurt my feelings:( but I'll get over it. I really like the size the Tundra is now. Every truck on the market keeps growing and growing. I've put scratches down both sides of my Tundra simultaneously, wider would be worse. The relatively short wheelbase makes it easy to park, and with only 240HP it moves well and tows what I need. I really hope the new T isn't as big as it looks. I don't need reclining rear seats (megacab) but I do need a full sized bed to sleep in.

[Scott Brady]

More on the diesel rumors...

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/autoshows/naias2006/diesels/page1.html

[asteffes]

With all of Toyota's innovation and talent, I wonder why they would go to Cummins, the brand that is associated with all the negative reviews of the Dodge/Cummins powertrain the author cites. The Duramax/Allison combination is a thing of beauty. I would love to see Toyota do something in-house that is of similar caliber.

[calamaridog]

I seriously doubt Toyota will outsource the diesel. I also doubt they will introduce the heavy duty model with a diesel in the first model year. I would look for it in 08 or 09.

They might co-design a motor with Hino, who they own a share of...

Or they might use the 4.4 V8 twin turbo intercooled CRD diesel (300 HP, 428ft.lbs. torque)The 4.4 L twin turbo is a reality for overseas markets, at least in the 130 series Land Cruiser. The motor exists, it is just a question of using it in the North American market. The smaller motor may not appeal to the Heavy Duty crowd?

Lexus is rumored to be developing an all aluminum 5.5 L V8 gasser for the next LX550 (replacement for the LX470). The 550 will share the platform with the Land Cruiser 130 series but will have IRS too.

I don't think Lexus will share the 5.5 with Toyota, so I'd look for a 5+ L V8 with an iron block and VVTI from Toyota to be used in the Tundra and US spec Land Cruiser 130.

The Land Cruiser 130 is supposed to share a platform (the "F" chassis) with the Sequoia and Tundra UTE. That's right, there will be a Tundra UTE, with 4 doors and small bed.

Basically, Toyota should just hire me as a consultant:xxrotflma

[jim65wagon]

They could just surf this site and ask all of us what we need in a truck.

Hey Toyota; I want elockers front and rear, a winch, and 33" tires, and rock sliders, and skid plates (real ones) and power ports in the bed, and an air compressor, hey how about a welder? (Is that asking too much?):)

[edgear]

I wonder if this new diesel Tundra will be able to run on biodiesel. I've heard that some stock Volkswagens can run on biodiesel w/o any modifications. With the way gas prices are skyrocketing, it sure makes biodiesel sound like an attractive alternative....

[asteffes]

Pretty much every diesel engine can run on a blend of regular and bio diesel fuels. There are varying arguments as to whether one should run pure biodiesel vs. a blend, but most anything will run on a 5% or 10% blend just fine (and probably run longer at that, since biodiesel is a good cylinder wall lubricant.)

[calamaridog]

From http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/01/toyota-tundra-2007.html


Wednesday, January 18, 2006
Toyota Tundra 2007

TOYOTA announced that it is going to show it’s all new, second generation Tundra at the 2006 Chicago Auto Show. The full size Japanese truck was introduced to the US market in 1999 as a 2000 model. The completely redesigned 2007 Tundra will be bigger, more powerful and will offer new body and engine configurations. A concept version of the pickup was displayed in January 2005 at the Detroit auto show.
A heavy-duty, diesel-engine Tundra won't be available when sales of the new model begin in 2006, said Jim Lentz, U.S. general manager of the Toyota brand, in an interview in Detroit. The company is studying offering both heavy-duty and hybrid gasoline-electric Tundras. Lentz said the automaker isn't sure how big the market for such models will be.

"You have to take a look at the cost of all these engines, how many you are going to be selling, to make sure it really makes financial sense before you jump into that market,'' he said.

The all-new Tundra will be built in America at both Toyota Motor Manufacturing in Indiana and the new San Antonio,Texas plants.

[Lost Canadian]

Great Site. I thought you guys would like to see it. Here it is. This is a 2 wheel drive model.
http://mindsetlive.net/toyota_tundra_new.jpg

[Lost Canadian]

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CHICAGO -- Tired of getting sand kicked in its face by pickups from Ford, General Motors and Dodge, the Toyota Tundra was sent to the gym.

What emerges for the 2007 model year is a bigger, beefier pickup, with styling that takes its cues from the FTX concept truck from 2004.

The 2007 Tundra was unveiled Thursday morning at the Chicago Auto Show.

When it goes on sale about a year from now, here's what buyers will find:

# A bigger truck. The Tundra's wheelbase has been stretched 10 inches to 138.3 inches on the standard cab. The wheelbase on the Double Cab is 150.5 inches. The overall length grows about the same amount, ranging from about 228 to 240 inches.


2007 Toyota Tundra
The 2007 Toyota Tundra is a bigger, beefier pickup, with styling that takes its cues from the FTX concept truck from 2004. When it goes on sale about a year from now, buyers will find:
# A bigger truck. The Tundra's wheelbase has been stretched 10 inches to 138.3 inches on the standard cab. The wheelbase on the Double Cab is 150.5 inches. The overall length grows about the same amount, ranging from about 228 to 240 inches.
# A new 5.7-liter V-8 joins the engine lineup. That engine should make more than 300 hp and be mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. It will join the current engines - a 4.0-liter V-6 that was rated at 236 hp for 2006 and a 4.7-liter V-8 that was rated at 271 hp.
# Towing capacity rated at more than 10,000 pounds.
# Three trim levels - base, SR5 and Limited - and three cab configurations, including the Double Cab.
# The options list will include a rearview backup camera and Bluetooth connectivity for cellular telephones.

# A new 5.7-liter V-8 joins the engine lineup. That engine should make more than 300 hp and be mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. It will join the current engines - a 4.0-liter V-6 that was rated at 236 hp for 2006 and a 4.7-liter V-8 that was rated at 271 hp.


# Towing capacity rated at more than 10,000 pounds.


# Three trim levels - base, SR5 and Limited - and three cab configurations, including the Double Cab.


# The options list will include a rearview backup camera and Bluetooth connectivity for cellular telephones.


Toyota will build the redesigned Tundra at plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio.

[Scott Brady]

Thanks for the update:

I am glad a base model will be available. hopefully in a work truck variant.

[BajaTaco]

Lost Canadian, thanks so much for the info and pics. :ylsmoke:

Regarding a diesel option, Scott and I recently spoke with a gentleman from Toyota USA and he basically said that Toyota is commited to very high emmisions standards for the US market, and until the current US regulations for sulfur content in diesel fuel is revised, they will not release a diesel engine here. He said once that policy goes into effect, his guess is that they will waste no time giving us a diesel. According to the EPA website (http://www.epa.gov/otaq/diesel.htm), the sulfur policy will not be in full effect until 2009.

[calamaridog]

I think Toyota has hit a home run here in the full size truck segment. I just showed it to several coworkers who have Fords and Chevys and they all love it.

[calamaridog]

From theautochannel.com


CHICAGO, Feb. 9, 2006 -- Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., unveiled the all-new next-generation Tundra full-size pickup truck at a press conference today at the 2006 Chicago Auto Show.

The Tundra was first introduced in 1999 as a 2000 model. Since then, it has won numerous awards and has been recognized for its value, quality and reliability. The completely redesigned 2007 Tundra will be bigger, more powerful and will offer new body and engine configurations.

"From bumper-to-bumper, under the hood and from the inside out the new Tundra is a true American truck that will set a new benchmark in the full-size truck segment," said Jim Lentz, TMS group vice president and general manager. "It will be aimed at the 'True Trucker,' the true opinion leaders among full-size owners. True Truckers are highly credible because they use, punish, and demand the most out of the pickups they buy."

The expanded size and power of the new Tundra will be reflected in its ability to tow over 10,000 pounds. To achieve this towing capacity every major component was designed for maximum strength, durability and reliability over the long haul. This will be accomplished with an all-new 5.7-liter i-Force V8 engine manufactured at Toyota's Alabama engine plant. The V8 will be mated to a new heavy-duty six-speed automatic transmission. In addition to the new powertrain, Tundra will also come equipped with heavy-duty front disc brakes with four-piston calipers and vented rotors increased by nearly one and one-half inches, and standard rear disc brakes. High capacity cooling and electrical systems will help Tundra tow heavy loads through the toughest weather. Finally, Tundra will ride on a new rock-solid chassis platform with 30 percent higher tensile strength steel.

Development of the new Tundra was spearheaded by Toyota's U.S.-based facilities. Product planning began at TMS headquarters in Southern California. All engineering development was directed by the Toyota Technical Center in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Styling, inside and out, was the work of Toyota's Calty Research and Design Centers in Newport Beach, California and Ann Arbor, Michigan. Finally, the new Tundra will be built at Toyota Motor Manufacturing in Princeton, Indiana and Toyota's new truck plant in San Antonio, Texas.

Tundra has been super-sized in every metric of comparison with the vehicle it replaces. Its all-new, full-size platform will feature a significantly expanded wheelbase and an increase of 10 inches in overall length. Tundra will also gain nearly five inches in height and will be four full inches wider than before, placing it among the segment leaders in overall size.

Buyers of the new Tundra will have a choice of three engines. In addition to the new 5.7-liter V8, the capable 4.0-liter V6 and the legendary 4.7-liter i-Force V8, both also built in Alabama, will be available.

The new Tundra will come in three cab configurations. It will retain its three-grade strategy with the Base, SR5 and well-appointed Limited trim levels. In all, Tundra will be offered in more than 30 different models, nearly double the current generation.

Calty designers set out to complement the new Tundra's increased size by creating a design with bold, brave and distinctive character lines that are different from anything on the road today. From the front, the new Tundra features a bold front grille, strong bumper and large headlights with a steely glare, conveying a strong and powerful physical presence. The profile reveals a thicker body and taller doors with character lines and fender flares that add dimension and strength as well as an unwavering stance.

Tundra's powerful and rugged exterior styling characteristics extend to the inside. A "command and control" center provides an unobstructed view of the instrument panel and puts knobs, switches and buttons within close reach of the driver. All Tundra models will feature a class-leading, roomy passenger cabin providing front passengers with four inches more shoulder room. Two-row models will offer rear passengers nearly three inches more shoulder room. Front passengers will receive nearly four more inches of hip room while rear passengers will enjoy six inches of additional hip room. Interior storage capacity is increased with the addition of hidden storage compartments, second-row seats that double as work surfaces (two-row models only), and a larger center console box.

For buyers who use their Tundra as a work truck, quick and easy access to the truck bed is essential. The new Tundra will feature a tailgate that can be opened and closed with just two fingers. Robust dampers on the hinges have been added to help cushion the tailgate when opening and also help reduce bouncing when driving with the tailgate down. Other design features with workers in mind include large door handles, inside and out, easy-to-turn HVAC knobs, and adjustable headrests, allowing drivers and passengers to ride to their next work site without having to remove protective gear such as hardhats or gloves.

Designers also had safety in mind with the addition of extra large side mirrors to provide a wide field of view, while reducing wind noise and image vibration, always important when towing precious cargo. Additionally, a trailer hitch will be integrated into the Tundra's frame for better stability when handling heavy loads.

The Tundra will be loaded with standard-equipped comfort and convenience features. An array of options and accessories will also be offered, such as a JBL premium audio system with Bluetooth telephone compatibility, 10-way power-adjustable driver's seat, and a wide-screen backup camera integrated into the tailgate handle for enhanced rear-view safety.

"As much as the new Tundra has changed, there are a few things that remain the same," said Jim Press TMS president and COO. "Tundra will again offer the most comfortable, quiet and refined ride in the full-size truck segment. Its build quality, reliability, and durability will, again, be second to none."

The all-new Tundra will arrive in dealer showrooms in early 2007.



2007 TUNDRA PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

DIMENSIONS (inches)

Overall length: 228.7

Overall width: 79.9

Overall height: 76.4

Wheelbase: 145.7

TRUCK BED DIMENSIONS (inches)

Bed length 78.7

Bed width
(at wheel wells) 65.0

Bed width
(between wheel wells): 50.0

Bed width
(wall-to-wall): 65.0

Bed depth: 22.3

[Lost Canadian]

More pics.
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[Scott Brady]

notice the angle of the rear leafs? Interesting...

Looks like an all new rear diff too.

[pskhaat]

I know GM gets away with it and don't want to state the obvious, but how can we have a `full-size' truck without a strong solid front axle, I'll never know. I bet this baby's gonna be heavy and I foresee broken front diffs...

[calamaridog]

Bummer:(

Drivers side front diff and t-case. That's going to make it prohibitably difficult to swap the 5.7 and 6spd auto into my 100 series. Oh well...

[calamaridog]

I know GM gets away with it and don't want to state the obvious, but how can we have a `full-size' truck without a strong solid front axle, I'll never know. I bet this baby's gonna be heavy and I foresee broken front diffs...


Scott,

Most of the 200,000 trucks per year will be 2wd...

The rest will not be heavily off roaded, except for a few;)

Look at your 100 series. It's basically a 3/4 ton platform. Now imagine everything is a bit bigger:p


With the Tacoma, the drivetrain is a bit oversized. With the first Tundra, the drivetrain was a bit undersized. Hopefully, the new Tundra will be on the oversized size!

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I found this info video today.

LINK: 2007 Tundra Info Video (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/channels/index.cfm/channel/cartv_video/action/showvideo/vid/e_0244/vcat/Review/pagenum/1/make/Toyota/MAKE_VCH/Toyota/MODEL_VCH/Tundra)
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