H2 video

[Life_in_4Lo]

here's a cool video worth the dl time
http://www.sincityh2.com/zipped/MoabFall2005.zip

[datrupr]

That is a pretty cool vid. I really like the H2's that are devoid of all the chrome, I think it makes them look a little less snooty. I t gives them an enhanced image towards off roading IMO.

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I'm confused 4Lo.

I thought you didn't like the stigma associated with the Hummer's.

[Life_in_4Lo]

I don't and would never own one.

But the video is cool you have to admit. It is all about people enjoying wheeling and that's what it's all about in the end. Out on the trails, everyone should be your friend b/c safety & fun override pride & prejudice.

I guess I see the vehicle and the people who own them as seperate issues.

[DaktariEd]

Wow... :Wow1:
Excellent video...great selection of film clips, well executed.
Never been to Moab...looks like a great place for finding out what a "pucker factor" is...

Ed

[Scott Brady]

But the video is cool you have to admit. It is all about people enjoying wheeling and that's what it's all about in the end. Out on the trails, everyone should be your friend b/c safety & fun override pride & prejudice.

I guess I see the vehicle and the people who own them as seperate issues.

Well said... :clapsmile

I have never understood brand bashing. People buy vehicles for many different reasons. For some, reliability and durability are the most important, so they buy model "T"; for others, trail capability is the most important, so they buy model "J". And some need to carry kids, or tow a trailer, or they enjoy driving something different and they buy that.

The only reason why people bash other brands is because of their own insecurity or prejudice. The diversity of vehicles can be a real joy, checking out what one person has done over another.

"You can make fun of a mans wife, but never make fun of his car or his dog"

Scottysan proverb:shakin:

[jeffryscott]

The lack of brand bashing is one of the best things about this forum. I was thrilled by everybody's acceptance of everybody's rig online and at the rally.

It makes it way fun to come here ....

Jeff

That video is cool. Moab, Baja ... Too many places to go, and too little time.

[cshontz]

Great video! Very nice quality. Now I feel like I've been to Moab. Thanks for sharing that - well worth the download. :)

[flyingwil]

Thats a nice find and a great video... It is nice to see the H2 off the pavement and not Mall Wheeling! We all know it is a capable rig, and it is nice to see them in action! I personally have never seen a H2 off the pavement, and have laughed at the sites against the H2 (FUH2.com), but never understood the bashing of it, nor participated in bashing of it or other brands.

The video was set up well, and a quality video! I did not get to see all of it, because i had to leave for work, but I got a good 7 min of viewing time in and was impressed. I wonder how they filmed it, like if it was a camera mount or a passenger holding the camera...

Either way I am excited to watch the rest of the video when I get home.

[Brian McVickers]

I think that was impressive!
I have never seen an H2 in action off pavement and was amazed at what they can do. I know I would have to hold my breath if I were in the drivers seat on a few of thoes obstacles!
Kudos to that group for taking advantage of their vehicles' capabiliteis and using them and getting out there, I think that's pretty cool!:victory:

I have also never seen the Moab trails in such detail, can't wait to go!

[Life_in_4Lo]

"You can make fun of a mans wife, but never make fun of his car or his dog"

Scottysan proverb:shakin:

I think that's a good proverb, except I dont think you can make fun of a man's wife. hehe ... unless you like beatings lol

I like going back and forth on brand merits and pitfalls tho- just not on the trail. On the net, it's fun to web wheel. On the trail, I like hanging w/ buds and wheeling my rig. hehe

Anyway, that's what I like about that video...

[DaktariEd]

The lack of brand bashing is one of the best things about this forum. I was thrilled by everybody's acceptance of everybody's rig online and at the rally.

It makes it way fun to come here ....

Jeff

That video is cool. Moab, Baja ... Too many places to go, and too little time.

I agree wholeheartedly! :D
I find brand bashing to be reallly irritating!

Ed

[jeffryscott]

Thats a nice find and a great video... It is nice to see the H2 off the pavement and not Mall Wheeling! We all know it is a capable rig, and it is nice to see them in action! I personally have never seen a H2 off the pavement, and have laughed at the sites against the H2 (FUH2.com), but never understood the bashing of it, nor participated in bashing of it or other brands.



I travelled with the Tucson Hummer group through Charouleau Gap back in April or May and was impressed - not only that they would take them on a challenging trail, but at the vehicle themselves. Their big disadvantage on the trail is their width. The H1 is obviously even worse, and really doesn't have much articulation - but then, it can just bully its way through things. I got under one of the H2s and they had good protection from the factory.

I did have to chuckle a bit at the custom-cut magnetic sheets many put on to protect their body panels from pinstriping. But then again, I've never paid 50K for a vehicle ...

Jeff

[flyingwil]

I travelled with the Tucson Hummer group through Charouleau Gap back in April or May and was impressed - not only that they would take them on a challenging trail, but at the vehicle themselves. Their big disadvantage on the trail is their width. The H1 is obviously even worse, and really doesn't have much articulation - but then, it can just bully its way through things. I got under one of the H2s and they had good protection from the factory.

I did have to chuckle a bit at the custom-cut magnetic sheets many put on to protect their body panels from pinstriping. But then again, I've never paid 50K for a vehicle ...

Jeff


Nice... I have seen many H1's out on the trail... and was allways disappointed in their articulation, however their ground clearance and ability to "bully" did work for them. However, they made some interesting descents on loose terrain. The vehicle's capabilty also changes what lines they must take, as I am sure you well know... I had a H1 try and follow my line, and its size made that line impossible for the H1.

Its all about the vehicle! The best part is that each vehicle is different and unique, that's what makes meet and greets, and trail runs so much fun. The best part is... have you ever meet an owner not proud of their rig?

[Ron B]

true, the H1's articulation is no where near that of a solid axle but it really doesn't need it. I wheel all the time with fully locked trucks, and buit jeeps, I go anywhere they go with finesse and btm. I have the stock torsens, no lockers -- though I'm considering a rear detroit, btm'ing is really hard on the t-case.

The extra width is sometimes an issue, but 95% of the time there is another way around. The advantage of the width is the sideslope ability (some say 50 degrees, other crazy folk say 55 degrees). I rarely get over 45 deg -- any more than that and I might wreck my seats. But I can take lines others would have to bypass because they'd roll. The bad break-over angle is what limits me more than anything. The approach and departure angles are awesome and it's a comfy ride.

I had an H2 for a year, the undercarriage protection is very wanky. Most who wheel have to upgrade it with hd aftermarket stuff. Please continue to chuckle at the magnetic skins -- I think they're rediculous. I hate crome too.

Ron B

[Scott Brady]

When I was a fireman, we used the H1 for a fast response brush truck.

http://www.humvee.net/pix/ftruck.jpg

Of course, we needed to train the new drivers on it's off-highway capabilities and limits. The greatest advantages of the H1 platform is approach and departure angles, as well as stability. The factory 37" tires allow most obstacles to be swallowed by the vehicle.

As I have said before, the HUMMER vehicles are actually very capable off-road in stock condition, but the majority of the drivers (especially in the H2) are not experienced off-roaders. The traded in their BMW M3 for an SUV, and did not have the progressive learning process that drivers from most other marques experience. It is also proven that most HUMMER drivers have a more aggressive temperament and often represent the "look at me" crowd. This is reflected in the driving style (I have seen this first hand during the AZ OHV training courses).

So back to my firetruck story... Well, B shift got the HUMMER stuck in a gravel pit, and they really didn't want the Chief to know, so they called me on a Saturday to come "winch" them out (they did not know how to operate the winch). Once arriving at the "stuck", I knew I could get the HUMMER out. So, I aired down the tires to 15 psi with the CTIS and then slowly climbed the gully out, applying moderate brake pressure to engage the torsion diff locks. I didn't even spin a tire, and B shift stood there slack jawed.

It wasn't any great driving accomplishment on my part, but an understanding of the vehicle. I knew how CSIT worked, and how it would benefit traction, and I understood how to engage the geared LSD's.

[The BN Guy]

Good video! Nice to see a normally Mallcrawler vehicle used for it's intended purpose - having fun!

[Ron B]

a great story Scott...most people I run into have no idea how to drive their vehicles (all makes). Nowadays alot of people have the false sense of security from the salesman's bs, comercials showing trucks on mountain-tops, and 35 inch tires. These folks are usually the ones in the videos posted on the internet making our trucks look bad (and the one's cutting us off at the mall). I've always believed it's more driver than truck anyway.

I think Jim Cameron has a few of those firetrucks on his property in Malibu incase of brush fires. Pretty cool.

Ron B

[Life_in_4Lo]

I guess the H2 guys are the only ones making videos... here's another w/ some TJ's on a pretty gnarly trail
http://www.youtube.com/w/Hummers-and-Jeeps-oh-my%21?v=egD-EnMR8Rc

[ShottsCruisers]

I travelled with the Tucson Hummer group through Charouleau Gap back in April or May and was impressed - not only that they would take them on a challenging trail, but at the vehicle themselves. Their big disadvantage on the trail is their width. The H1 is obviously even worse, and really doesn't have much articulation - but then, it can just bully its way through things. I got under one of the H2s and they had good protection from the factory.

I did have to chuckle a bit at the custom-cut magnetic sheets many put on to protect their body panels from pinstriping. But then again, I've never paid 50K for a vehicle ...

Jeff

Yer famous Jeffry: http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/northwest/74598.php

I'd luv to ride with this group and see the vehicles go!

[ShottsCruisers]

I travelled with the Tucson Hummer group through Charouleau Gap back in April or May and was impressed - not only that they would take them on a challenging trail, but at the vehicle themselves. Their big disadvantage on the trail is their width. The H1 is obviously even worse, and really doesn't have much articulation - but then, it can just bully its way through things. I got under one of the H2s and they had good protection from the factory.

I did have to chuckle a bit at the custom-cut magnetic sheets many put on to protect their body panels from pinstriping. But then again, I've never paid 50K for a vehicle ...

Jeff

By the way....any idea where they had the magnetic covers made? I've been told I can't buff my 100 any more or the shine's coming off. I've considered this. Thanks! John

[blaze one]

Isn't the H2 built on the same platform and suspension as the Tahoe's ? , so in theroy you could pick up a used Tahoe , add custom bumpers front and rear , trim the wheel wells and add a body lift . and some larger tires , and have near or almost the same capability of the H2 , with half the costs . Ah.... GM , so smart and sneeky !

[ShottsCruisers]

Isn't the H2 built on the same platform and suspension as the Tahoe's ? , so in theroy you could pick up a used Tahoe , add custom bumpers front and rear , trim the wheel wells and add a body lift . and some larger tires , and have near or almost the same capability of the H2 , with half the costs . Ah.... GM , so smart and sneeky !

Kind of. Tahoe rear and modified K2500 front.

[Ron B]

the Tahoe and the H2 are similar, and are made up of alot of the same parts, but it's a mistake to call them the same. Aside from the obvious cosmetic differences - the H2's fugly plastic boxy body, bigger tires, nicer interior, etc... - the engine in the H2 is not available in the Tahoe (6.0/325 hp vrs 5.3/295 hp). The most important thing is that the H2's wheelbase is 7 inches longer, but the over-all length is 10 inches shorter (which gives the H2 pretty good approach/departure angles). The traction control system is the same one in the newer H1's, which works well. I believe the tranny, t-case, and rear diff are also different/not available in the Tahoe (?). It's main weakness, however, is that it attracts more middle fingers than the Tahoe!

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a huge fan of the H2, but it will get you some crazy places right out of the box. Here's an old shot of a friend of mine in the Mojave desert.

Ron B

[blaze one]

I stand corrected :coffee: I always welcome new information . I think Chevrolet had a great idea in the H3 ( to fix some of the down falls of the H2 :size ! ) but fell short when they built it on the Canyon/Colorado platform .

[ShottsCruisers]

Other than size, I believe the biggest disadvantage of the H2 is it's weight. I have appreciation for H1's and H3's but struggle with H2's.

Has GM upgraded the front components to eliminate all the breakage that was occuring on H2's?

[Ron B]

I agree with you 100% about the weight issue. It is about 1800 lbs (me thinks) heavier than a Tahoe, but made up of many of the same components -- like the tiny tie-rod. At least the tie-rod is cheap and easy to replace. One might be worried about other, more $$ things breaking if the tie-rod didn't. One of the reasons I sold my H2 and got an H1 was this issue. I felt I'd be upgrading so much to make it bullet-proof that I might as well put the money into a truck ready to go.

Ron B

[ShottsCruisers]

H1 = Now you're talkin'

Those things are beasts! I'd sure like to wheel with some here in AZ some time. H2's and 3's too!

[Ron B]

the snow was really fun (and beautiful). I haven't pulled any pictures off my video yet, but here's one somebody snapped of me playing on a rock.
Ron B

[ShottsCruisers]

the snow was really fun (and beautiful). I haven't pulled any pictures off my video yet, but here's one somebody snapped of me playing on a rock.
Ron B

OK, now send the pic when you're on top. :D

H1 = superb app and dep angles = fun machine.

I've seen the H1's climb this rock too:

http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/58685739-M.jpg

[Ron B]

nice picture! I've actually been to your website and checked out your trucks, very nice.

Yes, good approach/departure, but not so hot break-over angle. I wanted to go higher, but the rock above the crack was too narrow for me to get both front wheels onto. I'll attatch another picture.

I'm really enjoying this forum and learning alot about decking vehicles out for expeditions. I'd like to pull out both back seats and make a storage cabinet/box on one side and install a fridge on the other, then I could sleep in the truck (it's 6'4" from inside door to door).

Ron B

[ShottsCruisers]

nice picture! I've actually been to your website and checked out your trucks, very nice.

Yes, good approach/departure, but not so hot break-over angle. I wanted to go higher, but the rock above the crack was too narrow for me to get both front wheels onto. I'll attatch another picture.

I'm really enjoying this forum and learning alot about decking vehicles out for expeditions. I'd like to pull out both back seats and make a storage cabinet/box on one side and install a fridge on the other, then I could sleep in the truck (it's 6'4" from inside door to door).

Ron B

Gracias.

Hey, I was kidding though about another pic. I can't see you, me, or many things climbing that rock you were on. Well, maybe something with a 22" wheelbase. :)