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camperman
09-21-2011, 04:01 PM
Someone knows anything about the possibility of chassis freytlayner m2 106 such as frame flexibility, reliability and generally as a chassis suitable for expedition vehicle. I will be glad to hear your answers

camperman
09-21-2011, 04:05 PM
Sorry if not where it is necessary post the thread :o

haven
09-21-2011, 04:23 PM
Global Xpedition Vehicles (GXV) built at least one of their campers on the Freightliner M2 chassis. Read more about it here http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/42090-new-GXV-on-Freightliner-chassis and here http://globalxvehicles.com/patagonia/

Mike Van Pelt, owner of GXV, has experience building on a variety of heavy chassis. I'm sure he would be willing to provide a recommendation.

camperman
09-21-2011, 06:08 PM
Thanks for quick response. Now I'm interested in what truck is better: International or Freightliner. New campers, such as Safari extreme or Pangea based on International truck chassis. This somehow connected with reliability or technical parameters?

haven
09-21-2011, 07:09 PM
Here's a thread by a fellow who posts as "blackeye" about the build of his GXV camper on the International 7500 chassis. Send him a PM to ask why he chose International.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/55723-Our-GXV-Build

Byrdseye
09-25-2011, 10:42 PM
I just recently sold my M2 106 4x4 after deciding not to build on that chassis. Of the two, I would give the nod to International for overall quality but I like the engine choices the Freightliner offers.

camperman
09-26-2011, 01:07 PM
Via poor quality? Or not?

dzzz
09-26-2011, 02:29 PM
I know one guy who works for Freightliner who is not impressed with the M2 as a 4x4 vehicle. I have no experience myself. Staying lightweight on a Fuso FG would be my choice before an M2. Or if staying with North America the F550.

camperman
09-26-2011, 03:53 PM
It's a secret that you do not want to say what exactly? I don't understand why...
... over Intl?

Byrdseye
09-28-2011, 12:33 AM
I had a few issues with my M2, which was a 2007 factory build. I was not at all impressed with the build quality. As an example, during routine maintenance and inspection (20k) I noticed that one of the tranny oil cooler lines was rubbed nearly all of the way thru by the transmission mount. In fact, all of the wiring and air line routing was a haphazard mess IMHO (that kind of stuff drives me nuts). Also, the "chassis module" ECU is mounted in a place that gets spray and muck off of the driveshaft.
Another issue on the models with air brakes is that the rear brake actuators hang down and are very vulnerable to damage when off the pavement.
As a positive, the M2 does have great visibility and turning radius though.
If you are looking for an intermediate truck to build on, and plan on traveling south of the border, I would strongly recommend that you stay away from the newer rigs with DPF. (diesel particulate filter) They are not intended to run on anything except ultra low sulfur diesel and are prone to problems no matter what they are fed.

hope this helps, YMMV, JMHO, etc..........

camperman
09-28-2011, 01:41 PM
I had a few issues with my M2, which was a 2007 factory build. I was not at all impressed with the build quality. As an example, during routine maintenance and inspection (20k) I noticed that one of the tranny oil cooler lines was rubbed nearly all of the way thru by the transmission mount. In fact, all of the wiring and air line routing was a haphazard mess IMHO (that kind of stuff drives me nuts). Also, the "chassis module" ECU is mounted in a place that gets spray and muck off of the driveshaft.
Another issue on the models with air brakes is that the rear brake actuators hang down and are very vulnerable to damage when off the pavement.
As a positive, the M2 does have great visibility and turning radius though.
If you are looking for an intermediate truck to build on, and plan on traveling south of the border, I would strongly recommend that you stay away from the newer rigs with DPF. (diesel particulate filter) They are not intended to run on anything except ultra low sulfur diesel and are prone to problems no matter what they are fed.

hope this helps, YMMV, JMHO, etc..........
Now I understand exactly. Thanks :)