M101A2 Trailer Purchase & Project

[TexasFJ]

I have another thread going at FJ Forums (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/trailers-towing-tech/137607-m101a2-trailer-purchase-project.html) but will keep one here too.

Based on Harley's M101 build thread (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/63713-Just-purchased-a-Military-trailer-to-build-a-family-hauler) I've bought an M101A2 and am going to build it up in a similar fashion.

I guess I picked the right trailer as it went for the highest amount in the auction... but still a good deal.

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I'm waiting on an invoice, which should hit tomorrow, then I'll probably head down to Fort Hood next Friday to get it.

As soon as I get it back then I'll order up the new axle and adjustable hitch pieces, etc and go from there. I bought a wheel/tire combo yesterday, brand new, probably a spare, for 140.00 (matches my FJ), just need one more.

[Dirtytires]

Dont toss them sides.. Them are composite and very much desired. Clean looking trailer. I think you may be surprised once you pick it up.
Welcome to the Dark side..

[TexasFJ]

Still waiting on EUC to clear.

[Pikeman]

If it is your first EUC expect to be at least 2 weeks and closer to 30-60 days. I just picked mine up end of September and now waiting on funds to do the basic mods to it. Each subsequent EUC will clear faster.

[Dirtytires]

GL and EUC's Suck, expecially if it your first. GL and keep us posted.

[Arctic Cat]

Still waiting on EUC to clear.

I purchased a M101A2 from GL on September. An I did not need an ECU. But I got mine straight from the Depot and I guess rules are different depending where you get the trailer from. I won my Auction on a Thursday and I pick my trailer the Tuesday the week after.

:coffee:

[TexasFJ]

I'm in no hurry per se, but with Christmas and the pending birth of my boy around the first week of January I might get in to a jam getting this bad boy picked up. Hopefully it will happen well before Christmas...we shall see.

[Dirtytires]

Your first child?

[TexasFJ]

Your first child?

Well.... no, I have a daughter that turns 23 on Jan 10 from my first marriage. Remarried last August, she's never been married or had kids, 14 years younger than me ;) and now she's giving me my boy! On January 10 no less...

[TexasFJ]

EUC cleared almost 2 weeks ago, was scheduled to go to Fort Hood last Friday but GL called and said the Guard killed all Friday pickups until January, so I'm going in the morning to get mine. I'm overloaded with tools and what not but hate to be unprepared, 5 hours worth of driving.

I'll post up some pics when I get back.

[Dirtytires]

Have a safe trip.. Keep us updated wih lots of scenery pics..

[TexasFJ]

Today started early, up a little after 4AM then off to Fort Hood in the rain and a 30-40MPH headwind. Left around 5:30, tanked up and grabbed some coffee at the 7-11.
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Got there a little before 8:30. For those that need to pickup at Fort Hood you will enter on the north side off of Hwy 36. Coming south from Gatesville you will look for the MATES entrance on the west side, go west less than a mile and turn left on Park, go south 1/3 mile or so and a National Guard soldier will meet you at the yellow pipe gate and direct you from there. No security checks, no one ever asked for insurance, ID or registration. GL didn't need my paperwork until after I was hooked up and ready to go....just simply told them my lot number.

Mud. It was a sloppy mess.
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Impossible to get to the trailer, or anything else for that matter. A NG soldier was basically delivering the trailer to you, on a cement pad, using a ginormous all terrain forklift.

Here's another guy's trailer being delivered:
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And mine arriving.

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The M101 is light enough to handle by hand if it's on jack, so I wheeled it around and dropped in to the pintle and raised the jack... boom, it's hooked up...kinda.

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The 8" lift receiver and pintle hit it pretty close with a stock FJ. So after waiting for the GL guy to come over and me sign my paperwork I exited the gate where I was parked and pulled in to an unused entrance for another lot and proceeded to wire up my tow lights, fix my safety chains and give it all a once over.

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Ok... here's some notes for future reference.

1. The magnetic 11.99 tow lights form Harbor Freight worked just fine. I had some 12" zip ties and small bungie cords that I used to route my wires and add some backup security to the lights just in case one wanted to eject itself from the trailer.
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2. Zip ties, take a bag of 12" zip ties. I ran the wires in the bed and tied to the panels, posts and frame, leaving enough slack to turn of course. Used a couple of very small bungies to safe the lights.
If you position the lights as I did you can see them in the rear view mirror.
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3. I bought 12" of 3/8" chain, some hooks and removable chain link. I ended up simply looping the chain through the loops on the hitch instead of using the hooks as it made things too long. I'll get a photo tomorrow so you can see what I'm saying.

4. Tires are like new but were at 15lbs. Since I was headed back north I stopped in Gatesville just a few miles down the road and bumped them up to 32lbs, they'll hold more. Checked the bearing temps on the grease caps using my laser thermometer, never over 73 degrees, it was in the mid 60's most of the day. I had a small compressor with me just in case.

5. Tools. All I ended up needing was my needle nose pliers to pull cotter keys from the hooks I had added to the chain and did't need and to clip a few zip ties. I took a little bit of everything including a 4 way to check my 7/8" lugs, which were very tight.... but you just never know.

Trailer had bows and tarp in the bed plus the side panels/gates, all in very good shape. Some surface rust not worth mentioning here and there but overall the trailer is in great shape.
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I'm going to get started this weekend by pulling the side panels and storing the bows/tarp then measure the axle so I can order the 3500lb Dexter with electric brakes. I have wheels and tires that match what I have on my FJ. I'll be selling the stock axle, wheels/tires and surge brakes. I'll start tearing it down from there. Black frame, black along the bottom, white sides and black in the bed. Should match my FJ nicely.

And so it begins...

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[SWITAWI]

I just realized this was cross-posted on the Blue Room. Good to see you here as well, Brad. LOTS of great ideas here, as I'm sure you already know. Looking forward to seeing your trailer come together.

[Dirtytires]

Now that you have it home .. Congrats.. Get your butt in gear with the build. Hint beware of spiders behind your wheels when you take em off. Many horror stories.
well get busy , we need some more pics of the build. JK ..Kind of..you need to build that Toyota a little more.

[TexasFJ]

Now that you have it home .. Congrats.. Get your butt in gear with the build. Hint beware of spiders behind your wheels when you take em off. Many horror stories.
well get busy , we need some more pics of the build. JK ..Kind of..you need to build that Toyota a little more.

If it doesn't quit raining I may have to put some pontoons on it... I bought the FJ as a daily driver, one thing I don't want to do is kill my 20MPG and a lift/bigger tires will certainly do that. Having said that, I modify every vehicle I've ever owned so it will be quite a test for me to adhere to keeping it relatively stock.

I'm actually developing a winch mount (http://texasfjforums.com/index.php/topic,5.0.html) that goes in the stock front bumper so I don't have to add a big heavy bumper up front, which kills MPG too.

There's no telling when I'll have a chance to tear this down with Christmas almost here, a very pregnant wife and a baby due in 3 weeks. Don't want to force her out of her garage space. I'll get it done though.

[TexasFJ]

Pulled the tarp out of the back and laid it out in the garage to dry out, seems to be in good shape just needs a good power washing.


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Was looking at the bows, seems if you pull the legs that the bows might just fit in the stake pockets which would make nice low profile bows for a bed tarp??? Will see when I pull the side panels in a few days.


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[Pikeman]

I just picked my Dexter 3500# up the other day. I ordered it as follows: 64" WMS to WMS(they use hub face to hub face but it is the same thing) 43.25" Spring perch Center to Center with 10x2.25 electric brakes and the optional parking brake feature(added $90) from Redneck Trailer supply. Another member on here posted he ordered 63" WMS to WMS and same as rest of mine. I also got the oversized 3" tube as opposed to the standard 2 3/8. I am hoping to mount mine up this weekend but I believe the larger tube is same size as the military one so the Ubolt/ lower shock mount bracket should fit perfect. Congrats on the safe recovery home and looks like you got a really nice trailer, but dang now that means there will be two of us with black frame white box M101's on here. Well at least once we both get building.

[SWITAWI]

I was looking into this a while back to see what axle dimensions would closely match up with my FJ's... I found that the FJ's track width is 63.2" according to Toyota's published 2010 specs, and I've read the rear axle's hubface-to-hubface (or WMS-to-WMS as Pikeman noted) dimension is 64.25" (though I haven't measured it myself). Maybe that info will help out some.

Cheers.

[Pikeman]

I dont think he could go wrong with either a 63 or 64 inch WMS to WMS. and should follow nicely.

[Mark Harley]

Sell the old axle and brake system on SS site. and recoup some money.
What is the total price you got it for?

[Beach Cruiser]

Thanks for the info on the axle swap. I'll be doing the same to pull behind my FJ. I'm a lurker that never posts much but I appreciate all the help! :lurk:

[TexasFJ]

I just picked my Dexter 3500# up the other day. I ordered it as follows: 64" WMS to WMS(they use hub face to hub face but it is the same thing) 43.25" Spring perch Center to Center with 10x2.25 electric brakes and the optional parking brake feature(added $90) from Redneck Trailer supply. Another member on here posted he ordered 63" WMS to WMS and same as rest of mine. I also got the oversized 3" tube as opposed to the standard 2 3/8. I am hoping to mount mine up this weekend but I believe the larger tube is same size as the military one so the Ubolt/ lower shock mount bracket should fit perfect. Congrats on the safe recovery home and looks like you got a really nice trailer, but dang now that means there will be two of us with black frame white box M101's on here. Well at least once we both get building.


I was looking into this a while back to see what axle dimensions would closely match up with my FJ's... I found that the FJ's track width is 63.2" according to Toyota's published 2010 specs, and I've read the rear axle's hubface-to-hubface (or WMS-to-WMS as Pikeman noted) dimension is 64.25" (though I haven't measured it myself). Maybe that info will help out some.

Cheers.


Good information from both of you guys, I appreciate it. If you get it installed this weekend let me know how it works out, especially with the shock mounts.

[TexasFJ]

I just picked my Dexter 3500# up the other day. I ordered it as follows: 64" WMS to WMS(they use hub face to hub face but it is the same thing) 43.25" Spring perch Center to Center with 10x2.25 electric brakes and the optional parking brake feature(added $90) from Redneck Trailer supply. Another member on here posted he ordered 63" WMS to WMS and same as rest of mine. I also got the oversized 3" tube as opposed to the standard 2 3/8. I am hoping to mount mine up this weekend but I believe the larger tube is same size as the military one so the Ubolt/ lower shock mount bracket should fit perfect. Congrats on the safe recovery home and looks like you got a really nice trailer, but dang now that means there will be two of us with black frame white box M101's on here. Well at least once we both get building.

Couple of questions:

1. Looks like the bottom shock mount is welded on to the military axle. Seeing that you have to cut and weld that why not do the same to the top spring perch since it's welded on too? Order an axle with no perches/mounts...

2. What about studs? Aren't the FJ studs 12mm? I think most axles with a 6x5.5 (Chevrolet) bolt pattern with 1/2" studs instead of 12mm...looked at Dexter, no 12mm studs listed. Did Redneck have it? One thread on the FJ forums said:

My new trailer has standard threaded studs that are larger then the FJ's studs.
Can I press in new studs to match? Or is a new/different hub required?

Answer: Knock out the studs (wheel bolts) on the trailer hubs.
Replace with stock Rear Wheel Bolts for the FJ.
I got mine from NAPA part# BK6414207 $3.99 each.


3. What about the lug centric Chevy hub to the Hub Centric Toyota wheel difference?

Trying to get this right the first time....

[Pikeman]

Ok first things on perches. It is better to order with spring perches installed since the axle has camber built in for better tracking. Also I was pretty sure the lower shock mount plate unbolted with the U-bolts and why I ordered as a 3" tube instead of the 2 3/8, but I couldnt find them last weekend so you might be right. I will go check one of my trailers in the motor pool tomorrow to make sure.

Hub centric from Chevy to Toyota, all trailer hubs are smaller then either so will need a lug centric rim. Most Toyota rims are both lug and hub centric with conical lugs so not a problem there.

!2mm vs 1/2 you can either swap out the studs or just use the SAE lugs with conical washers on the Toyota rims. It does not take much to swap the studs. When I built my tire carrier the plate was made with 1/2 studs and I swapped for 12mm pressed into same holes no problems so I assume wont be a problem on the trailer hubs. Thanks for reminding me on that one

[Titanpat57]

I used all the original perches and hardware. Carefully cut and weld them back on, its realitivly easy.

If the FJ wheels are pretty new , you can use Spidertrax to get from lug centric to hub centric. I would not mix the two.

[TexasFJ]

I used all the original perches and hardware. Carefully cut and weld them back on, its realitivly easy.

If the FJ wheels are pretty new , you can use Spidertrax to get from lug centric to hub centric. I would not mix the two.

These? http://www.spidertrax.com/Toyota-Hub-Centric-Spacer?sc=2&category=9981

Guess Id need 63" instead of 64" axles???

[TexasFJ]

Between weather and Christmas the trailer project has come to a bit of a halt. I intend on seeing about an axle setup tomorrow, still unsure about hubs and studs.


Did manage to pull the sides and put everything in storage. Will remove the surge brakes so I can weld on my adjustable hitch channel this week then attack axle and lights.


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[orangeTJ]

WOW..... that trailer is is really nice shape. Is there a build date stamped on the ID tag?

[TexasFJ]

WOW..... that trailer is is really nice shape. Is there a build date stamped on the ID tag?

Except for some surface rust on various contact points it's very clean. Funny you asked, I checked the tag a few days ago, nothing stamped, it's blank where the date should be. Nothing on the paperwork either. My guess by the shape it's in is late 80's to very early 90's....but who knows.

[TexasFJ]

Finally getting it stripped down. Had our baby boy on the 5th so everything rightfully came to a screeching halt until now.

Removed all of the surge brake/lunette parts up front, torched off the landing leg as I'm going with the rotating/removable jack. I haven't weighed everything yet but it is a drastic difference of course. We will finish tearing everything apart this weekend. Trying to get an axle ordered today. I'm going to order one 62" wide and order 2x1.25" Spidertrax spacers to make it right..adds 100.00 to the axle portion but oh well... better right than half assed.

Once she's stripped down I'll pressure wash, do some detail sanding and surface rust removal/treatment then shoot the frame black, undercoat the bottom of the box and then black/white the box to match the FJ...then go back together.

Debating keeping the military tail lights or recess mount some 6" oval led lights on the rear bumper/frame cap. Going to strip all of the military wiring off as well.

[Pikeman]

Texas, I have new tongue built, new axle installed on mine. You can check the pictures in my thread Pikemans M101 A2 .... build. I had the axle come with spring perches attached and then used regular axle u-bolt kit and welded on lower shock mounts. First pics are post 18 and then more a little further. Since the lower shock mount and brackets are welded to the military axle I would order it as the standard 2 3/8 diameter and save a little more weight and ground clearance.

[Dirtytires]

Congrats on the baby. Now that no one will get any more sleep during the eve, you
can gets a busy working on the trailer. Glad the baby is healthy and all is back to normal.

[TexasFJ]

Ok...between baby poop and honey-do's I finally found some time this weekend to tear down the trailer.

First off.. anyone had any problems with the lunette binding on the pintle? It literally twister my riser/receiver that the pintle is mounted too when I was backing up the trailer in the driveway. 3/8" steel twisted up like a potato chip. Thought I had a pic but don't. Lunette had plenty of clearance on the pintle.. very odd. Rethinking and may go with a lock-n-roll or something.

Grabbed the trailer and headed to my friends place, he has tons of room, welding equipment and a bobcat with forks.

Helps to have life long friends who don't mind doing some work:
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and in short order it looked like this:
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I have the spare parts sold (axle, wheels, tires, surges system, lunette, etc). Ordered a Dexter 3500lb axles in 62" width with 3" tube and cut off the lower spring perches/shock mounts.

Taking a shock with me to the parts store to find a new set. Need to order some Spidertrax spacers to get this converted to hub centric for the FJ wheels I'm using which will put me at 64.50" axles hub face width (spacers are 1.25" ea).

Still need to strip the wiring and lights, going with some 6" LCD's in the rear C channel below the gate. Picking up a benchtop blasting cabinet tonight, always needing one, to take care of all of the small parts/brackets/reflector housings, etc.

Next time I am out there I'll finish stripping the last few parts and then give it a good power washing/degreasing then start grinding/sanding in preparation to paint.

[Pikeman]

If you were towing it as shown in the top photo it's no wonder you twisted your pintle, the round black things are supposed to be down not up. If you look on the Steel Soldiers site there are a bunch of stories of people folding/ twisting their pintle mounts.

I would suggest the max coupler and simply unbolt the the Surge system from the tongue. Cut a piece of 1/4 plate that bolts in its place then weld a piece of receiver tube to that. That will be easier and cheaper than replacing the entire tongue like I did on mine, of course I like the way mine turned out so no real complaints.

[TexasFJ]

If you were towing it as shown in the top photo it's no wonder you twisted your pintle, the round black things are supposed to be down not up. If you look on the Steel Soldiers site there are a bunch of stories of people folding/ twisting their pintle mounts.

I would suggest the max coupler and simply unbolt the the Surge system from the tongue. Cut a piece of 1/4 plate that bolts in its place then weld a piece of receiver tube to that. That will be easier and cheaper than replacing the entire tongue like I did on mine, of course I like the way mine turned out so no real complaints.

You made me scroll up to look... you so funny.... I had no idea the round rubber things went down.

I have an adjustable lunette channel for the trailer...everything has been stripped off the front, even cut the landing leg mount off... so much easier to move by hand now.

By the time you buy the adjustable lunette/channel/2" hitch and then a riser and pintle it's almost as much or more than a max coupler...etc.

[Pikeman]

Did you order the axle with the parking brake feature? I almost decided against it when I found out it added approx $100 to cost, but went for it anyways.

[Mark Harley]

More pictures!
5" of snow on mine now and I am itching to start building again.

[TexasFJ]

Did you order the axle with the parking brake feature? I almost decided against it when I found out it added approx $100 to cost, but went for it anyways.

Nope.. I have some very nifty aluminum wheel chocks that work well... and were free. I don't care anything about using it as a dump trailer.


More pictures!
5" of snow on mine now and I am itching to start building again.

Not much to show.. no one was killed in the 50MPH winds yesterday, which was good.

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[Pikeman]

As you can tell by my new solid tongue frame combination I wont be using mine as a "dump" trailer either. I just figured if/when I am able to afford the RTT having parking brakes as well as chocks will help me feel more secure.

[Titanpat57]

Enjoying how you're documenting the swap...

Good luck with, it's prety easy to do...double check all bolts when your done.


I used a Bulldog coupler on my flatbed M116A2 (better articulation than a standard coupler, and about 30 times stronger), but I use the Max Coupler on the ROAM (with zero issues as well)...keep up the good work!

Pat

[TexasFJ]

I'm going to buy the adjustable 2" Bulldog hitch and then decide if I want the new lock-n-roll or ?? but I'm probably going to ditch the lunette.

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I'm also going to weld on top wind so I can remove it or simply swivel up to store....might add a wheel.

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Went out tonight to buy me a bench top parts blaster: http://www.tractorsupply.com/jobsmart-reg-benchtop-abrasive-blast-cabinet-32-lb-capacity-3951103 . Which is actually made by Clarke and for 99.00 is well worth it.

Tired of not being able to clean small parts easily. Will start blasting small parts tomorrow and let everyone know how well/bad it works.

[Pikeman]

you will most likely need a 15" Tongue jack. Also the bench top blasters quality depend on how well your compressor works and the type of media used. I know a few people that did nothing but complain about their media balsters not working well because the compressor was under powered. Keep us posted and glad you are making progress.

[TexasFJ]

Pressure washed everything and am now starting to blast parts/brackets....after I buy a new compressor tomorrow. My little Husky just doesn't pull enough CFM. Next event will be some sanding and rust treatment then undercoating the frame and do a little painting.

I have everything stripped off, surge brake system, lunette, axle and wheels/tires. I thought they were sold but haven't heard from the prospective buyer so I'm placing them up for sale. PM me if interested. $300 would take it all... you can't buy the tires for that.

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[Titanpat57]

I would cut off the old perches and reuse them. They have the mounting bracket for the shock.

[TexasFJ]

I would cut off the old perches and reuse them. They have the mounting bracket for the shock.


Yep...that was discussed on page 2...I am keeping the lower mounts.

[TexasFJ]

Got out there Friday night...about the time a cold front blew in... and had some one on one time with my Makita 4". No pics right now but I'm pretty close to having the frame stripped, hadn't planned on doing so but there was either a very light coat of tan that came right off...no primer, just bare metal... or there was coat over coat of paint and undercoating, some of which was caked and about to come off anyway.... so it's going to be pretty bare when I'm finished.

I'm going to paint the frame with undercoating for the most part, same for the underside of the box...then shoot in white on the sides. I think I may do Herculiner on the bed...over the rails, will take 1.5 to 2 gallons. IF I have any extra I'll coat the visible parts of the frame up front as well.

Now.. on to shocks. After reading a few threads, geared towards the M416 type of trailer I went with these shocks from NAPA, PN 94038 for $17.96 each.

http://napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=RR_94038_0306092489

Specs show to be:

Lower Mount : Loop Type 5/8" x 1 5/16"Shock Compressed Length : 11.25"
Shock Dust Shield : Yes
Shock Extended Length : 17.875"
Shock Parts Pack Part # : P411
Shock Travel Length : 6.625"
Upper Mount : Loop Type 5/8" x 1 5/16"

My measurements on the military shocks were about 11.75 compressed and 17.75 extended with 7/8 shock eyes. What was interesting is that the specs are pretty much the same on the following threads for the M416. Keep in mind that my shock eyes were a bit wallowed out and may have been 5/8" but either way, even if I have to drill them out a bit they should work fine. UPDATE: Shock studs are 3/4", rubber shock eyes are 5/8"...will have to drill the shocks accordingly. Here's what I used to bore them using my drill press and a level (comes with a set of 3 but I only needed the 3/4"): http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202214107/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=speedbor&storeId=10051

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http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72270

I'm going to copy/paste for posterity, keep in mind some of this is 6 years old:

This topic is a follow up to the recent threads about the elusive Gabriel Classic 82014 shock absorbers and my search for replacement shocks for MBT and M100 trailers:

http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71233

http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72271

I thought I would pass on everything I have recently learned about MBT and M100 shocks. Please feel free to add to this or correct any mis-information.

Shock Length:
MBT (from military maintenance manual TM10-1230 1942 printing): 10 7/16" (10.438) collapsed, 16 1/8" (16.125) extended

M100 (from military maintenance manual TM 9-871A 1951 printing): 10.37" collapsed, 16.43" extended

FYI on M416 shocks - The military technical manual for the M416 (TM 9-2330-251-14&P, September 1990 printing) does not list specifications for the shocks, only the CAGEC number (76445) and the part number (18459). The ORD part # for the M416 shock is 7088715.

If anyone can translate these numbers into a manufacturer and "civilian" part number, please let us know. (A google search revealed an M416 owner who measured his OE shocks - 11.5 collapsed, 17.5 extended, and several sites mentioned that they used the NAPA 94038 as a replacement.)

Update 6/18/07- information from Phil Pizzi:

1. CAGEC 76445 = Monroe
2. Nominal Extended Length = 17.438 inches
3. Nominal Compressed Length = 10.938 inches


Shock Manufacturers:
MBT - Gabriel for Bantam, Monroe for Willys;
M100 - Gabriel or Houdaille-Herschey.

Potential “Modern” replacements:
(Front shocks specified for a GPW, MB, CJ-2 and CJ-3 are all reported to fit, but as you can see below, the MB and early CJ front shocks specified by the various manufacturers and major parts chains all have different collapsed and extended lengths . So, unless you obtain military NOS shocks, the moral of the story appears to be “pick your compromise.”)

Gabriel Classic
82014 (discontinued in 2004) - 11.375" collapsed, 17.625" extended.
82007 - 11.375" collapsed, 18.23" extended

Gabriel Guardian
81676 - 11.12 collapsed, 17.73 extended
89201 (private branded, identical to 81676)
81147 - (length not published by Gabriel online)

Monroe
HD 20722 (lengths unknown)
Gasmatic 59017 - 11.250" collapsed, 17.75" extended (Monroe claims this is not their part number, but it is on the Kragen website under this number)
Monroematic Plus 32207 - 11.250" collapsed, 17.875" extended
Sensatrac 5752 (lengths unknown)

NAPA
94038 - 11.25" collapsed, 17.875" extended (perhaps a private branded Monroematic Plus 32207???)

Rancho (not suitable for restoration)
RS9906 - 11.75" collapsed, 17.375" extended
RS5006 - 11.75" collapsed, 18" extended
RS5119 - 11.75" collapsed, 18" extended

Explorer Procomp (not on my trailer please !!)
115509 (lengths unknown)

Brent Mullins Jeep Parts
7088715 - (update 6/23/06) Manufacturer unknown. Brent says these are military surplus, NOS in government packaging, for the M416. He does not know the collapsed and extended length. However, Brent's number is the same as the ORD part number for M416 shocks.

The technical manual for the M100 (TM 9-871-A June 1951) lists the same ORD part number for the shocks as the M416, and the October 1949 MB/GPW parts list, ORD 9 SNL G-503, shows the same ORD part # for the front shocks, therefore Brent's M416 shocks fit the M100 and MBT as well.

I'll get out there in the next several days to finish grinding then blast the bed and do some minor rust cleanup there. Not going to grind on it too much as it's pretty solid, just dirty and whatever I shoot should stick very nicely once degreased.

[TexasFJ]

Lights.

I may cut the rear C channel and insert some oval 6" LED's (http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Lights/Optronics/STL78RB.html?feed=npn&gclid=CMP-kYuCiq4CFSFeTAodvToqyQ) but before I do that I was thinking about retrofitting the military housings with some LED's.


I removed the wiring harness as it was a little shabby but I'm going to use the connectors at the rear, if I use the military lights, and then install new wire going forward. No brakes, just a flat 4 plug.


I've searched around on here and Google but am not getting anywhere. Trying to keep costs reasonable, 6" LEDs are about $18 each but I'd like to keep the military lights.. just with LEDs. Worst case I can get the 12V bulbs from the store and go that route as well.


Thoughts?

[Pikeman]

Best price I have seen on the Military LEDs is $50 for the set on Steel Soldiers. There are two people on there that sell fairly regularly for 50-70. I figure I have modified mine enough that I want to keep the Military lights to keep some of the heritage.

[TexasFJ]

I'm just going to install some surface mount LEDs on the rear C channel under the gate...IF the gate won't hit them.

[Pikeman]

you should be fie with some surface mount lights as long s they arent more than 1/2 or 3/4 thick. The recessed ones with a grommet would be better.

[SWITAWI]

Flush-mounted is great if you can fit them and the rubber grommet will make them virtually shockproof. The standard 6.5" oval lights you see mounted in rubber grommets mostly have large connector shrouds on the rear that you don't normally see. Even with a right-angle wire connection this gives them an overall depth of just over 2". The actual size of the mounting hole might be a factor as well - http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Optronics/A70GB.html
Here are the LED units I have on my hitch carrier...
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy13/switawi/Trailers/P1020191.jpg
FWIW I really like the military lights, even if they are dim as hell. I'd mod those suckers.

[TexasFJ]

I think I will go with the same lights...recessed LED's.

Finished grinding down the frame...got a lite coat of primer on it but the cold and wind stopped that. Having to wait for better weather next week or move the whole circus to another building that is enclosed...will probably wait.

Axle should be here any time. Ordered some 1.25" All Pro spacers, had a sale going.. 72.00 for a pair...these are hub centric on both sides which will work well.

Bought the NAPA 94038 shocks, just need to open up the shocks eyes an 1/8".

[TexasFJ]

Had a bit of warm weather yesterday so I managed to spray 3 coats of undercoating on the bottom side of the frame/springs, etc. Has to dry for 24 hours before I can flip it over and coat the top side. My axle is still MIA but my spacers and FJ lug nuts should be here tomorrow so I'll be ready when it shows. Pics are a little blurry for some reason but it turned out pretty nice.


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I will flip it and coat the top this weekend then get the tub power washed and degreased, do a little rust cleanup here and there and then undercoat the bottom side. I'll pickup lights and wiring when the axle arrives and we'll start putting her back together. I'm going to run it by MAACO and one other place to let them quote me on shooting the FJ Iceberg white, if it's too high I'll do it myself....then deal with the bed...but at least it will be mobile.

[Mark Harley]

Very nice!
They are stout frames and make a great foundation for custom builds.
The 101a trailers sometimes get a bad rap because of their weight and size.

Mine pulls and hauls great and it is almost bullet proof!
Keep us posted on the paint decision. "$12.99 for a Harbor freight HVLP gun is a cheap investment."

[TexasFJ]

My buddy has a HVLP gun if I need it.. my problem is simply time, or the lack of it and being winter it makes it difficult to get the painting accomplished.

I knocked 90% of the paint off of the frame then shot a quick coat of primer, mostly to keep it from flash rusting, so it has a pretty smooth surface for the undercoat. Looks good. If it doesn't dry black (looks more dark brown now) then I'll topcoat the visible areas with some semi flat.

[Bad Karma]

any chance you wanna get rid of the cover? :D

[TexasFJ]

any chance you wanna get rid of the cover? :D

Not at this time. Just need to move the axle, wheels/tires and surge brake/lunette assembly for now.

[youwillforget]

I don’t know how I missed yours under side pictures when I asked Mark over on his build, I was looking at your last post when I thought to ask him. Amazing work.

[Mark Harley]

Axle in yet?

Sell the extra parts?
Post them on Steel Soldier.

[TexasFJ]

Axle in yet?

Sell the extra parts?
Post them on Steel Soldier.

Can't post on SS without at least 50 posts,which I don't have yet. Otherwise I it all posted on CL, here, FJ forums, Jeep forums...nada yet.

The axle is still MIA, I intend to get to the bottom of it on Monday.

Flipped the frame today and finished undercoating. Will cut the frame for rear LED's and weld the adjustable channel on next. Pulled the chains, their zinc coated, going to clean them up and maybe remove the hooks and a link or two then add some different hooks.

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I'm ready for the axle. Bored the shock eyes out, they fit perfect (I'll show you how I did that later). Received the hubcentric spacer/adapters yesterday along with the FJ lugnuts. Just need an axle.

Was too muddy to get the Bobcat out so I could move the tub out of the shed to power wash it. After that I can undercoat, let dry for 24 hours and mount it to the frame.

[Mark Harley]

Brad looks great.
PM me and I will try and get the parts on SS for you.
Mark

[Fresno]

How did you remove the hitch? My 101A2 appears to be welded on the top.

[TexasFJ]

Just unbolted that bad boy... the surge master cylinder and the lunette.

[Mark Harley]

Mine too! Just unbolt it and use it as a boat anchor!

[TexasFJ]

Axle is in, will try to pick it up tomorrow along with some 6" LED's, wiring, Bulldog rotating jack and the 2" adjustable hitch. Should have a roller asap.

Also picked up a few goodies from Steel Soldiers and the FJ Cruiser forums...

Jerry can powder coated black and the two black mounts you see under the black plastic cans in the last picture, with straps. I'll buy another and coat it to match and mount them on the sides of the trailer.

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Then I bought these little jewels, 2 mounts and 4 .50 cal cans. I'm thinking about mounting them on the tire wells inside of the trailer. Each can is supposedly 5 1/2" by 11" so two would be 11x22 plus a small amount for the rack/mount. If they don't fit on top of the fender well then I'll certainly find a place for them. Going to clean them up and give them a coat of black. Will be good for water proof storage for all kinds of things.

These are file photos of 5.56mm cans but are visually the same.

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Should have some good updates over the next several days.

[Mark Harley]

Did you get the painting done yet?

[TexasFJ]

Other than the frame? No. My time is so limited right now, I'm doing good to spend 3 hours a week on it.

[Fresno]

Where did you find those plactic black fuel containers? Never have found a supplier for them.

[TexasFJ]

I didn't get those...just the mounts and a steel gas can. I bought one here though:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360433392656?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

[TexasFJ]

Picked up the axle, 2" Bulldog adjustable hitch, 6" oval LED's, wiring and jack last night. Will install tonight and updated accordingly.

[Pikeman]

Very cool, keep up the progress.

[TexasFJ]

Made great strides tonight. Mounted the axle, wheel spacers, wheels/tires and shocks. Cut holes for 6" LED's in rear C channel, welded up the front hitch channel and Bulldog jack and did some touchup painting. Need to run wiring and the frame is finished. Next up is the bed.

Here's a few pics:

Cut off the lower shock mounts from the military axle, actually they are just barely welded on front and rear. We decided not to weld on the new axle as it really doesn't matter, more for locating during assembly than anything. Mounted up the axle.
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The AllPro spacer/adapters are almost too nice to hide, bolted them on and coated everything that needed it.

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Flipped it over, coated what I missed and bolted up the FJ wheels and tires. The fit was perfect.

Now she rolls...

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My modified shocks bolted right on.

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Helps to have friends who are world class welders. Cutting the holes for the LED's.

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a little fine cutting here and there and poof...taillights.

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Welded up the hitch channel and the bulldog jack mount. I didn't bolt up either as I had to get some coating and paint on the front first.

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So basically I now have a rolling frame. Next is wiring, bolt on missing pieces and chains, helicopter lift rings, etc. I figure a couple more evenings once the bed is cleaned and undercoated, get the bed mounted and I'll see about painting the sides and lining the bed. Once that's finished I'll deal with fuel cans, and other various addons.

[Mark Harley]

Looking great and I like the lights.

[clandr1]

Looks awesome with the FJ wheels on it. You'll have a nice trailer when it's all said and done.

[TexasFJ]

Looking great and I like the lights.


Looks awesome with the FJ wheels on it. You'll have a nice trailer when it's all said and done.

Thanks guys... a little more work getting to this point than I had planned but it's been fun.

[Dirtytires]

Wow. I am impressed. Very good work there..

[Dirty Raider]

Love the build. Have my M101 ready to go this month. Are you going to fab a top? RTT?

[TexasFJ]

Thanks. I thought about some sort of hard top and an RTT, maybe later. Right now I have an idea about using the tops of the bows:

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This very basic drawing is supposed to be of the rear. Basically I can take the bow 'elbows' which are the correct size for the stake pockets, toss aside the vertical legs and basically have about a 4" tarp bow. I've grayed the tarp out a bit to illustrate how I'd like to use the bows.

I plan on using this for general hauling, some business related events, hunting and camping, more of a base trailer but not really an expo go anywhere trailer.

[Mark Harley]

I bought a black machine cover from here, less than $100.00 shipped and protects the contents until I build a top.

http://www.mytarp.com/machine-covers.aspx

[Dirtytires]

Alot of people tell me that the stock shocks off of an 85 ranger will fit perfectly.. I know late..info. Build looks great.

[Nicoli]

Has anyone tried to paint the original tarp that comes with these trailers? If you did what did you use and how did it turn out?

[Mark Harley]

Do a search on the Steel Soldiers website.
Most use the same paint as their vehicle, just light coats.

[TexasFJ]

The planets aligned and it quit raining long enough for me to get the bed mounted and what not. Pulls great, rides smooth and not bouncy (had about 300lbs in it) sits just a touch nose high which is good. Axle width with spacers is perfect. LED tail lights work great. The FJ doesn't even know it's back there. Backs up so much easier. Much lighter on the nose now, I can move it around one handed like it weighs a few hundred pounds. Now to deal with paint and bedliner.

Here's a few pics, I'll take some more in the next few days.

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Now it will get a little more fun.

[Mark Harley]

Looks Great!
It was easier to paint with the tub off. "No over spray on the frame or need to tape off anything"
You still have room to adjust the tongue height if the trailer is loaded.
The Matching wheels set it off well.
Like the safety cables too!
Paint color?

[TexasFJ]

Well, I needed it to come home so I can work on it here... 2 month old boy and all, hard to get away.

Taking it by Maaco tomorrow for a quote...time is short for me so I'm going to see what it might cost to let them spray it white and black to match the FJ. Still haven't made up my mind about the bed yet.... trying to keep the dollars down as much as possible.

[Arctic Cat]

Where did you get that front jack from?

[TexasFJ]

You can buy them just about anywhere. It's a Bulldog top wind with the weld on swivel. I think the total max height was 29.5". I bought this one from Quality Trailer parts. Don't have the PN handy just this minute.

[Mark Harley]

Brad looks good!
Did you get a quote on paint yet?

[TexasFJ]

Thanks.

No... decided to get sick along with my baby boy so we haven't moved much in the last many days. Hopefully some time this week.

[TexasFJ]

Finished painting the trailer after hours and hours of sand, prime, repeat. Color code 058 single stage acrylic enamel then sprayed the bed and trim. All I have left to do is mount the lift rings, reflectors and license plate and it's finished. Kinda...then I start adding stuff.

I probably spent too much time prepping it but it was rough, very rough and while some paint came right off, giving me bare metal, some had 3-4 coats of various colors. Plus I've never painted before so I wanted to get some good experience doing prep work. Bought me a couple of HVLP guns in the hard case from Harbor Freight for $50, sprayed nicely.

You will also notice my new winch/mount (http://texasfjforums.com/index.php/board,39.0.html) setup in the factory FJ bumper. I build and sell them (http://usoffroad.us/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=59) if you need one for your FJ. I also just installed adjustable Bilstein 5100's up front which is why it sits level now compared to nose down in other pics.


Here's a few pics:

Late one night in the garage, sand, prime, repeat.

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Heading to have the bedliner and trim sprayed.
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Fresh out of Extreme Bedliner's shop.
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Around town.

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[Mark Harley]

Brad: Your trailer looks like it was a factory FJ option!
It is a perfect match and looks great with your FJ.
The matching wheels and color make the combo.

It will get lots of looks while you are towing it around.
What is planned next?

[TexasFJ]

Brad: Your trailer looks like it was a factory FJ option!
It is a perfect match and looks great with your FJ.
The matching wheels and color make the combo.

It will get lots of looks while you are towing it around.


Thanks...it was far more work than I intended but am pleased with the results. The results are also greatly attributed to your build!



What is planned next?

Sleep.

Need to mount the fuel and water cans after reflectors, license plate, etc... have some lettering to do. Not sure after that.

[TexasFJ]

Receive this via PM and thought it was worth reposting here:


Hey man, came across your trailer build thread and it was awesome... I was wondering if I could hit you up for some info.

I have an FJ as well, and I'm looking to change the axle on my 101A1 trailer, putting Toyota wheels on it @265/R17. But I can't for the life of me figure out what length axle to get. It seems you ordered the 62", but then put on spacers... I was wondering why you did that? Was it not possible to get a Dexter axle that FJ wheels can bolt right up to?

If you could shed any light on that, I'd sure appreciate it. And thanks for the build thread... trailer looks great and it gave a ton of info!

- Rey

Thank you.

You can start reading about post 23 on page 2. The problem is that you can't order an axle from Dexter or anyone else with 12mm studs and most importantly a hub centric face, so there's not really anything to center the wheel on. FJ wheels are hub centric so I simply ordered some spacers and used them as adapters. You use the 1/2" lug nuts that come with the axle to bolt on the spacers, now you have the proper hub centric mounting face. Go on Ebay and order some FJ lug nuts, probably have to buy a full set but are cheaper than going down to the local parts store to buy only what is required. The measurements of 62" with 1.25" spacers is perfect with factory FJ wheels/tires. You need a 3" tube to use the factory lower perches/shock mounts, which are really just tack welded on to the factory axle. We didn't even reweld it on to the new one as it centers up and is held on with the ubolts, etc. 43.25" perch width is perfect and I ordered it with the upper spring perches which were perfect.

[xxfullsailxx]

Brad-

your trailer is looking super-sharp...can't wait to see how you outfit it!

with regard to the trailer axle question (and without hi-jacking too much) i believe the other route to go is to buy new hubs or backing plates & drums that are a 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern. all the trailer company's make them for these axles (5000lb'ers i think).

sweet paint job!

-darin

[TexasFJ]

Thank you sir.

Yep... BUT, they are not hub centric and have 1/2" studs, not 12mm, nor can you get them to build it with 12mm studs. You could probably knock them out and put some 12mm in without too much trouble but you still gotta have the hub centric setup for the FJ wheels.

Now.. if you aren't using FJ wheels then yeah... much easier.

[Pikeman]

Thank you sir.

Yep... BUT, they are not hub centric and have 1/2" studs, not 12mm, nor can you get them to build it with 12mm studs. You could probably knock them out and put some 12mm in without too much trouble but you still gotta have the hub centric setup for the FJ wheels.

Now.. if you aren't using FJ wheels then yeah... much easier.

Brad,
I am running factory Toyota wheels on my Dexter axle with the 1/2 lugs. You are correct that the backing plate is not hub centric. However the Toyota wheels are both hub and lug centric. Lug centric being that they use a conical seat shaped lug nut that will also center the wheel. I have not had any issues with my wheels being out of center. Since it is the 1/2 lugs I jsut can't mix up my lug nuts, and you are also correct that you can take the backing plate down and have 12mm studs pressed in without an problems.

[TexasFJ]

Yeah.. but he billet spacers look so cool!

My information was iffy and I didn't want to order an axle then need the spacer thereby being too wide so I just bit the bullet and ordered it narrow and bought the spacers... no gray area then.

Worked out well but good info to have.

[Pikeman]

Your trailer looks great by the way. I need to get back on mine and make a little more progress like paint. On the axle was just saying there are two ways of going about it, I didnt want the additional expense of spacers. Now using the spacers does keep you both hub and lug so you know for sure you are good to go.

[Titanpat57]

The trailer came out awesome...and looks sweet with the truck!

Good job!

[Mark Harley]

Most people say the trailers are too big, I think it looks very proportional to the FJ.
The channel hitch is so simple and it is adjustible for other heights of tow vehicles.

[SWITAWI]

I'll say it again... Lookin' good, Brad. Are you planning on some kind of cover?


Most people say the trailers are too big, I think it looks very proportional to the FJ.
The channel hitch is so simple and it is adjustible for other heights of tow vehicles.

Definitely fine for an FJ. Towing my friend's A3 is no problem. The height is more pronounced than the width, and is definitely what gives the trailer its 'exaggerated' appearance behind my truck. Even without towing mirrors I'm never uncomfortable with the trailer's width in my rear vision unless someone just seriously starts tailgating, and by then I've pulled over anyway.
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy13/switawi/FJ%20Cruisers/IMAG0192.jpg

[TexasFJ]

The FJ pulls it fine. I've read all the same comments about it's weight but doing what both of us have done it's closer to 1000lbs empty now with very little tongue weight. Now, if you are comparing to a much smaller M416 type of trailer then yes, it might be considered heavy but comparing to most 5x8 utility trailers it's not that much heavier and you get so much more. Since I won't be using it for a tough to climb trails trailer but can still take it most places I'll need to go it works for me.

I was tired of dragging utility trailer's lights, etc ever time I went to the ranch or hunting, etc, this one you don't have to worry about.

[TexasFJ]

I'll say it again... Lookin' good, Brad. Are you planning on some kind of cover?



Thanks again! Yes. I'm looking at taking the bows and removing the lower legs then using the shortened bows to support a tarp cover. Wanted it for the FJ Jamboree in a few days but flat haven't had the time to address it. I'm not thinking about any kind of hard top or RTT at this time.

[youwillforget]

Is the a Kawasaki Bayou in the trailer?

[SWITAWI]

Is the a Kawasaki Bayou in the trailer?

Yup, 250cc along with a bunch of other stuff lying on the passenger side that you can't see. Lots of room in these trailers.

[youwillforget]

I have an 06 Bayou but it wont fit in the AT.

[Muy Grande]

I think I got it........just read everything. I've got a trailer and want to eliminate all the junk and heavy military tires (those things must weigh close to 150 lbs each no joke).

1. Dexter 3500lb axles in 62" width with 3" tube and cut off the lower spring perches/shock mounts.
2. 43.25" perch width is perfect and order it with the upper spring perches which were perfect.
3. All-Pro or Spidertrax 1.25" Hub Centric Spacers, total axle length w/ 1.25” spacers I 64.50".

Thanks man....going to town on this in the next few weeks.

What did you use to sand down the trailer.....Harbor Freight has some cheap $10 sanders and was thinking of picking up 2 to knock it out and rattle can the trailer. My frame is solid and already painted Black. Trailer is white but want to change the color and I want to Rino Line it.

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[Muy Grande]

Where did you buy your axle? Thanks.

[TexasFJ]

Been awhile but about to get started on this again, somewhat out of necessity. No my wife didn't kick me out... :)

I've been using the trailer quite often for normal hauling needs. Very happy with it...very. My FJ pulls it anywhere I want to go without issue. Used it at the Texas Toyota Jamboree.

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Seems I developed some Thyroid cancer and they had to remove my thyroid, all of it, they believe they caught it and removed it all in time but to make sure I have to take the silver bullet and ingest a radiation saturated salt pill in a few weeks. Mark, your wife went through this so you know what I'm talking about. I've got a Mombasa 9010 RTT purchased and and am trying to get a quick mount done with the help of some buddies...since I haven't had any thyroid in my system for 4 weeks, I'm worthless right now, in preparation for this event. I have to quarantine myself afterwards for 4-5 days since we have a 9 mo old boy now...and even then for another week or more I can't even touch him or his stuff...plus keep a reasonable distance. Don't want to kill off his thyroid in the process.

So, if there is a way to pull this off I'm going to mount this up, tank up some water, my generator and maybe an outdoor shower along with my cookware and what not and go be one with the critters for several days around the first week of deer season in November. Hopefully I'll have enough left in me to do so. Luckily I can start taking thyroid immediately after the pill so maybe I'll come back to life pretty fast.

So.. gotta:

1. Figure out a quick mount for the RTT, can be temporary for now.
2. Finish my tailgate cables.
3. Remount my landing leg.

Get a shower bought, some of this has to do with me being able to decontaminate from day to day.

I have a killer expedition cowboy bedroll (huge), a great generator if I need to take it (brand new 5500 Honda), plenty of water hauling capability as well as fuel. Load up 3 coolers, 2 with food/drinks and the third with ice only. I have my Coleman camp stove and a half dozen propane canisters. Thinking about grabbing a Nexgrill portable and using my big tank with it maybe.

What else does a man need...well besides a handful of weapons of course and a few sharp knives!

[Mark Harley]

Brad:

That Thyroid stuff is rough i am praying for you to be all clean!
take your time with things " makes you feel like 10 rounds with a prize fighter"

how about a rack that slips in the stake pockets for now, that would be aesy enough to fab out.
Keep us posted on how you are and how the build is going.

Good thing is you won't need a lantern " you will probably glow in the dark"

Mark

[TexasFJ]

Brad:

That Thyroid stuff is rough i am praying for you to be all clean!

Good thing is you won't need a lantern " you will probably glow in the dark"

Mark

Me and you both! The side affects of not having a thyroid are...ummm, undesirable to say the least. Like having a bad flu without the snot, and oh yeah, no memory or cognitive functions (or as I call it, NTD, No Thyroid Duh). Random cramps, every joint in my body hurts half the time, sleep at all hours, etc etc etc. I feel like a bitchy old woman.

Yeah.. had a few of my life long buddies wondering aloud if I would stand out in a night vision scope or just a regular scope would do. I told them to STFU or I'd go spit in their coffee so they could experience it for themselves. What are friends for?

Deal is done on the RTT, picking it up Friday. I think it will be an easy mount using the bows that came with the trailer. I have to remove the lower legs and only use the mids and uppers...and of course the cross bars. May have to pin them but we'll see.

Had a sudden and very odd burst of energy today so managed to at least tidy up the garage a bit so I can function. Got a few buddies coming over tonight to help me unload some heavy equipment I have in the trailer. If I'm lucky I'll get my landing leg mounted tonight then work on the tailgate cables.

Simple things are a bit more complex right now but I'll get it done.

Operation Glow in the Dark is a go!

[Mark Harley]

Bringing Brads build back up.

Wondering how it turned out and how you are doing?
Ready to start back on my build and finish / change some things.
What have you added?

[TexasFJ]

Well.. apparently it takes more than this thyroid cancer to kill me, as a result I'm still alive an kicking.

Finally getting my thyroid levels closer to normal. Still not 100% but I'm doing good overall. Go back in a few months to do another rad scan for a checkup (MUCH smaller dose this time) and of course everyone expects it to all be gone. Told my oncologist he better be right or I'll be forced to kick his ***. He has no sense of humor apparently... or maybe I meant it, can't remember squat lately.

Haven't done much on the trailer. Made some new chains with quick links for the tailgate, some better tie downs in the bed floor...and that's about it. Been using it quite a bit though. Got another Toyota Jamboree in May so I'll probably kick out a few ideas before then.

The guy backed out on me on the RTT right before I was leaving to go get it. That was much appreciated. Used my dome tent and was pretty much catatonic for 5 days, sat in my camp chair and stared at the fire.
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Watched deer run by, just had no energy to even think about skinning a deer. That was just what I needed and the trailer was super handy to have there.
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Thanks for bringing the thread up, give me some motivation to go work on it a bit.

Oh.. my boy is 15 mo old now and he already loves to get out and 'help' Dad work on stuff so I'm building him his own trailer inspired wagon.

Found me an old rusted Radio Flyer wagon, stripped it down and primed. It's getting the same Iceberg white this weekend then Linexing the bed. Bought me some adapters to mount gokart wheels with some 15" turf tires and 'fabricated' a small lift for it. Should look just like the FJ and M101 afterwards.

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[Dirtytires]

Good to hear the update. The little wagon is going to look cool.

[Mark Harley]

Glad to hear you are getting back to normal.

Great minds think alike. I lifted a Radio flyer with 3" abs spacers, added Harbor Freight dolly wheels
and painted it Pumpkin Orange " Wicked Wagon" in vinyl letters on the side.

Post pictures when you are done.