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blur13
07-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Just watched the Top Gear Polar special, has anyone else seen it? A couple of the hosts (Jeremy & James) race Richard and a dog sled to the North Pole in a Hilux.

The Hilux is really well built, and the scenery is awesome. Here's a link if anyone is interested (to the torrent).

http://www.mininova.org/tor/808894

paulj
07-27-2007, 03:56 AM
Pictures of the truck and its mods:
http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/galleries/other/top-gears-polar-hilux/01/

I found this description of the route:
"The distance between Resolute in northern Canada and the magnetic North Pole at Ellef Ringnes Island is 320 nautical miles [450 miles]. "

I didn't think they were talking about the geographic North Pole. Ice ridges and open water leads would be too much for even a well equipped truck.

This drive has been added to wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Magnetic_Pole

http://polarrace.com/about/route/

Brian894x4
07-27-2007, 06:17 AM
I watched that and that was REALLY cool!

Those Hiluxes are really impressive. I'm curious how the moved the front suspension "forward". I wonder if they extended the frame or something. I'm sure it couldn't be easy on an IFS truck. They also mention upgrading the diffs. I wonder what that means, unless it's just lockers.

It definately makes me long for some winter snow driving. Only a few months away.....or so.

Clay
07-27-2007, 11:47 AM
It's cool, but what's up with the gun case on the outside? That's funky, IMHO.

Brian894x4
07-27-2007, 02:37 PM
I thought that was weird too, but it does allow quick access. The only time you're going to need the gun is standing around the truck, at camp, or using the restroom or while digging out. All outside and all pretty close to the truck. That way, the gun is right there and you don't have to fiddle with digging it out from inside the truck or out of the back.

I noticed the support vehicles had the gun case set up exactly the same way, so it must serve a real purpose.

Seems like it would be easy to knock off the truck though.

CornDog
07-27-2007, 02:39 PM
It's cool, but what's up with the gun case on the outside? That's funky, IMHO.

I haven't watched the video yet, but I really hope they didn't have to use it. In the kind of tempratures they're talking about, a firearm kept outside like that wouldn't function. And a shotgun for polarbear protection? Might as well have used a BB gun! You won't know he's there until he's on top of you. I've dealt with polar bears before, and I wouldn't want to have to face one, even with slug shot.

teotwaki
07-27-2007, 04:22 PM
I'd rather have a large caliber scoped rifle than a shotgun. With the proper lubricants the weapon should function fine in cold temps.



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http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/galleries/other/top-gears-polar-hilux/09/main.jpg

CornDog
07-27-2007, 07:01 PM
I'd rather have a large caliber scoped rifle than a shotgun. With the proper lubricants the weapon should function fine in cold temps.

I'm sure that's true now. I spent a year and a half in Barrow AK back in the mid 80's. We had special gloves with thin palms to hold the rifle around the action/trigger assemble because they would freeze up. The ammunition as well; we had to keep inside coats. If you left it out in the rifle, it wouldn't function after about 15~20 minutes in the winter. I spent a couple winters in Murmansk Russia; same story.

Makes sense though, seems like better oils would fix that.

paulj
07-27-2007, 07:27 PM
Here's a longer writeup on the Arctic Trucks site:
http://www.arctictrucks.com/?PageID=1218

http://www.arctictrucks.com/?PageID=1219

teotwaki
07-27-2007, 08:06 PM
I'm sure that's true now. I spent a year and a half in Barrow AK back in the mid 80's. We had special gloves with thin palms to hold the rifle around the action/trigger assemble because they would freeze up. The ammunition as well; we had to keep inside coats. If you left it out in the rifle, it wouldn't function after about 15~20 minutes in the winter. I spent a couple winters in Murmansk Russia; same story.

Makes sense though, seems like better oils would fix that.

Good points that it is not just the weapon but also the clothing and techniques. I think by storing their weapon outdoors in the hard case the weapon's metal is already normalized to the ambient temps. Bringing it in and out of a cab would attract moisture that can freeze and jam the moving parts.

seth_js
07-27-2007, 10:23 PM
Awesome! Digg'n that Hilux.

paulj
07-27-2007, 10:42 PM
According to the Arctic Trucks description, the expedition had 2 of these trucks, a Land Cruiser with trailer, and some unspecified number of snow mobiles.

paulj

seth_js
07-27-2007, 10:54 PM
According to the Arctic Trucks description, the expedition had 2 of these trucks, a Land Cruiser with trailer, and some unspecified number of snow mobiles.

paulj

Yeah, they show the crew several times. Watch the whole thing, it's awesome.

Clay
07-28-2007, 12:16 AM
Here's what I would want for a polar bear:
The .577 T-Rex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVqT3XEzss)
:PROFSheriffHL:

Once again, very cool rigs. I'd like to go for a run in one.

viter
07-28-2007, 01:05 AM
cool story! thanks for posting this!
more pics from arctic trucks from this trip are here, btw, - http://www.arctictrucks.com/?pageid=1062&categoryid=279

and also in case somebody haven't found these yet, top gear's story/blog/pics/vids are here - http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2067/

viter
07-28-2007, 01:41 AM
http://www.arctictrucks.com/lisalib/getfile.aspx?itemid=3726

Brian894x4
07-28-2007, 08:01 AM
I'd rather have a large caliber scoped rifle than a shotgun. With the proper lubricants the weapon should function fine in cold temps.


There might be some logical reasons for choosing the shotgun over a high powered rifle. I don't know what they are, but can guess that might have something to do with what firearms are legal in the country they are starting from. Shotguns tend to be legal in more countries and more politically correct, as well.

They also might be intending to scare the bear off, rather than actually kill it. And finally, with a shotgun, a less experienced shooter probably has a better chance at actually hitting something, especially at close range, compared to a scoped rifle. Also less chance of injuring the expedition partners if the bear gets in between two vehicles.

Fortunately, the few bear I've actually ran across were small and more scared of me than I of it. Except for one. Luckly, I was close to the vehicle with that one.

:REOutShootinghunter :D

fwop
07-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Here is a page with links to download different versions of the show
--- it was broadcast in 1080p which is the Super High Definition format and it looks amazing.
So for those of you that have enough computer power, a 1080p display, and enough time and space to download a 7gb file, enjoy.
For those of you with normal HD (720p) or just watching it on a computer there are 2 other versions that are much smaller.
Good luck -- it's a great show.
http://www.finalgear.com/shows/topgear/10/0/

CYi5
07-28-2007, 09:23 PM
That was a great episode! Definitely enjoyed the high quality video, thanks for sharing.:Wow1: