I'm thinkin Commander!

[AZCPP]

Been thinking about getting a Jeep Commander. I found one a Prescott that has the Quarda Drive system, skid plate package, tow hooks, and the Rocky Mountain Package, in Light Greystone. The wife is not as sold as I am but I'm working on her. I'm thinking 4" Superlift, MTR 285's, and AEV Pintler's, ect..

Similar to this one. sans the paint color and stock wheels.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Buds387/commander.jpg

[hattrik21]

I dig the commanders. I bet it will work out well... if you can convince the wife. :)

[AZCPP]

Oh, I forgot to add, They have a $4,000.00 rebate on the sports and I get any Chrysler at 1% under invoice as a FedEx employee.

[pismo62]

I like the commander, if it had the diesel engine, I'd be all over it.:)

[AZCPP]

I dig the commanders. I bet it will work out well... if you can convince the wife. :)

Yeah, she likes her '06 Liberty a lot!!

[OverlandZJ]

Oh, I forgot to add, They have a $4,000.00 rebate on the sports and I get any Chrysler at 1% under invoice as a FedEx employee.

And the lifetime warranty applies as well? I'd like to see a built Commander.

[AZCPP]

Hhttp://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/index.phpere is a Commander forum>

[AZCPP]

WOW I messed that up! Couldn't edit it, but you get the idea.:oops:

[Scenic WonderRunner]

And don't forget the new....Dodge..Jeep....etc. Lifetime Warranty!

I just new this would be coming soon!

WOW!

This might even sway me if they ever put some sweet diesel's in!


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[calamaridog]

Would that have the 4.7 V8 or the 5.7 "hemi"?

Both motors are going to be revamped in the next 1-2 years. If I remember correctly, the 4.7 gets revamped for the 08 models.

[haven]

Superlift developed a 4" lift for AEV's first project Commander. The lift
and larger 32" tires really improve the look of the Commander, not to mention
its off-road capability.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/aev-commander.jpg

Superlift claims the Commander's V8 is powerful enough to run 32" tires
without re-gearing.

AEV chose the Commander for their Iceland exploration project. Read about
the vehicle preparations on page 9 here
http://www.jpfreek.com/Images/JPF_Issue-01.pdf

While the Commander looks like a traditional Jeep, the Grand
Cherokee has the advantage of the Mercedes diesel engine.
The Grand Cherokee with 3.0L diesel is EPA rated at 20mpg city,
while the Commander with 4.7L gas V8 is rated at 14 city.

Unfortunately, Chrysler has made the diesel available only in
the top of the line Grand Cherokees, and they are charging a
huge premium for the motor. I guess they think buyers will
be cross-shopping against the Mercedes GL 320.

Given that the Commander body style will not be available
after 2007, I think Jeep dealers will be offering incentives to
move the Commanders. A discount of $12,000 or more from
the cost of the diesel Grand Cherokee will buy a lot of gas.

Chip Haven

[Colorado Ron]

I wouldnt even look at a used one. With lifetime drivetrain warranty, new is the only way to go, unless its so cheap its a steal.

[AZCPP]

Would that have the 4.7 V8 or the 5.7 "hemi"?

Both motors are going to be revamped in the next 1-2 years. If I remember correctly, the 4.7 gets revamped for the 08 models.

The one I have my eye on is the 4.7 Flex Fuel. We had a 2004 Grand Cherokee Overland with the 4.7 and I was very happy with it.

[AZCPP]

My wife is really being a stick in the mud on this. I keep leaving pictures of lifted Commanders on the screen saver. HEHE

[OverlandZJ]

That AEV Commander has a nice stance, well proportioned.

My wife likes the styling of the Commander, it's growing on me.

[Sleeping Dog]

The Commander has a lot going for it. Potentially nice interior space and the usual Jeep benefits.

On the debit side the 4.7 is a gas guzzler. According to the dealer when I looked at the Commander, to remove the third row of seats you need to unbolt them from the floor. That plus the folded second row isn't very compact robs the interior of a lot of useable space.

Good luck

[AZCPP]

Yes, the rear seats are a big drawback on this vehicle. It is just my wife and I so I would just remove both the second and third row seat and build a flat deck with storage under.

[calamaridog]

I'm positive the 2008 model will offer the new generation 4.7L V8. I would absolutely hold out for that one myself.

The old motor:

230 hp at 4600 rpm
290 lb-ft at 3600 rpm

The new motor:

305 hp at 5650 rpm
335 lb-ft at 3950 rpm

The new motor includes several advancements including better gas mileage and reduced noise and vibration. Of course this motor is flex fuel too. The other benefit versus the 5.7L "hemi" is that this motor is built in Detroit, not Mexico.

[Spenser]

Just got back from a road trip in our commander. Averaged a litte over 18 MPG, running 70-75 mph on highway. That includes the K&N cold air kit. The motor is a little underpowered for the commander and if I had to do it again would do the hemi, as the MPG isnt that much difference. Also, the addition of a slightly larger gas tank is going to be helpful, the range is only about 350-370 miles. All in all, very good vehicle, is a little smaller than the large SUVs, comfortable with go anywhere jeepness. Also, financing and warranty arent shabby either, although the aftermarket parts a limited when compared to Toyota, Grand Cherokee and others.

[calamaridog]

Spenser,

That is awesome feedback. I'll say that the next generation 4.7 offers more power than the one you currently have and they claim better fuel efficiency and reduced noise and vibration (not that the current motor is bad). I agree the Commander is a good size too.

[AZCPP]

Well, the wife is still saying NO....:violent-smiley-031:

We drove one the other night and I thought she liked it. (thats what I get for thinking). She said "I don't know,,,, but,,,, I just don't like it"

Why is it that I pay for it, and she has the final say????

[viter]

Why is it that I pay for it, and she has the final say????

cause you have her to keep her happy :D

[ujoint]

That's why I'm not married!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bergger]

I made it a point to bring my wife along when we bought our first new car 12 years ago. She had such a miserable experience she has never gone with me again. She just tells me to call her when it's time for her to sign the papers on whatever vehicle I've decided on! It is important to keep her happy. Just keep working on her, maybe take her to drive something else that you know will make the commander look even better!

[The Swiss]

Well, the wife is still saying NO....:violent-smiley-031:

We drove one the other night and I thought she liked it. (thats what I get for thinking). She said "I don't know,,,, but,,,, I just don't like it"

Why is it that I pay for it, and she has the final say????My wife was the one talking me into trading my Tacoma for a Commander. This when I actually wanted to show her the new 4 door Wrangler I felt in love with. Women....

Regarding mpgs: Mine with the 2.5"lift and the 32" tires get's about 17 mpg.

Here again a pic of mine.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/images/albums/userpics/10015/Commander03.jpg

[AZCPP]

That is a nice looking Jeep!

[John90XJ]

For 2 people, is the size difference (which seems small to me) between the Commander and the Grand Cherokee worth the extra 500 pounds of weight the Commander brings to the party?

[calamaridog]

Interior cargo space is actually very similar behind the 1st and 2nd row but the Commander does have 3rd row seating. So really you are looking at similar vehicle specifications except for 7 passengers versus 5 passengers.

According to the Jeep site:

Commander -

Cargo 65.5/36.3/7.5
Payload 1310
Curb weight 4649
GVR 6200
Max towing (Hemi and tow package) 6500

Grand C -

Cargo 68.5/35.0
Payload - 1050
Curb weight 4315
GVR 5700
Max towing (Hemi and tow package) 7400

[John90XJ]

Interior cargo space is actually very similar behind the 1st and 2nd row but the Commander does have 3rd row seating. So really you are looking at similar vehicle specifications except for 7 passengers versus 5 passengers.

According to the Jeep site:

Commander -

Cargo 65.5/36.3/7.5
Payload 1310
Curb weight 4649
GVR 6200
Max towing (Hemi and tow package) 6500

Grand C -

Cargo 68.5/35.0
Payload - 1050
Curb weight 4315
GVR 5700
Max towing (Hemi and tow package) 7400

I'm guessing those are base engine and package weights.......?

Edmunds shows the following for the 2007 4WD 5.7 liter auto models:

Stat / Grand Cherokee / Commander

Weight 4730 lbs. 5239 lbs.
Max. Towing Capacity 7200 lbs. 7200 lbs.
Max. Payload Capacity 1050 lbs. 1180 lbs.


It just seems that the two compare vary favorably with one another until you get to curb weight and if it's only 2 people, I would rather carry the gear than the dead weight or just run a lighter rig.

[calamaridog]

When I changed the model on the Jeep site the curb weight and payload did change a bit closer to what you posted:) I think I was looking at the 4x2 before?

And I hear what you are saying about getting the Grand C instead if the Commander if you don't need the extra seats. More likely to have aftermarket and the model is more likely to be a long production run whereas the Commander may not stay in the market.

[John90XJ]

When I changed the model on the Jeep site the curb weight and payload did change a bit closer to what you posted:) I think I was looking at the 4x2 before?

And I hear what you are saying about getting the Grand C instead if the Commander if you don't need the extra seats. More likely to have aftermarket and the model is more likely to be a long production run whereas the Commander may not stay in the market.

Either way, it's nice to be in a position to be making those choices. There's nothing more enjoyable than researching your next vehicle.

[AZCPP]

I appreciate all the input from everyone. My wife said NO so I guess that means NO Commander for me!.:sport_box

[John90XJ]

I appreciate all the input from everyone. My wife said NO so I guess that means NO Commander for me!.:sport_box

I guess that makes you the Lt. Commander? ;)

[AZCPP]

I sometimes thing I am still a Private!

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Just now during dinner...........at my local Taco Shop.........

I was reading the paper and I saw that a local San Diego Dealer is closing out 2007 Commanders with $12,500 OFF!


Just a little....FYI