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Butcher54
02-04-2012, 05:18 AM
Hey Guys,
Im in the hunt for a new platform. Im between a 00-04 Tacoma DC and a 00-06 Tundra ext cab. I have read posts of Tacoma owners wanting a little bit more room/power than there current Tacoma, and talk about getting a Tundra. I just sold my 01 2wd Tundra to buy a 4wd, Im having a hard time with choosing. from what I have read the Tundras have 55hp more than the Tacomas however they are around 800lbs heavier. Is the power to weight ratio noticable? If I got a Taco I would do a 2-2.5 lift with agressive 32inch tires.I drive throught the Texas hill country to work and thinking that the Taco would constantly down shift to make the hills. My tundra never had to, but it didnt have the extra weight of a 4wd truck either. Not to worried about aftermarket support for the Tundras cause either truck I go with ill make my own bumpers and tire gate. I know lighter the better for the Tacomas.I would angle cut the bedside on the Tundra for departure angles and put a locker in. So If you have went from a taco to a tundra let me know what you think and the same with tundra owners going to Tacomas.

Mattm94
02-04-2012, 01:18 PM
My wife went from a 98 4runner to a 05 Sequoia, then back to a 00 4Runner. FWIW.

Toyotero
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
I love my Tacoma.... it only shifts a lot when I have it in cruise control. IMHO, they didn't put a very good CC system in it, it's constantly shifting, hunting for the right gear on hills, and sometimes abruptly disengaging. I only use it on flat highway now.

I'm happy with the power compared to my previous 88 V6 4Runner, but not compared to my wife's BMW 740 :-P

I've yet to drive a Tundra, but I expect that I would dislike the size of it right off, but get used to the size and power quickly...

28.
02-04-2012, 04:01 PM
I had an 08 5.7L 4x4 Tundra and the power was great.. But the gas mileage was horrendous..:Wow1: I averaged around 11/12.. I've argued with other Tundra owners over this but have also had past tundra owners agree with me so who knows. I do know that some folks tend to exagerate their MPG a bit and was kinda prepared for the Tundra not quite getting the advertised MPG, but it just never really came close.. Great truck though other than that. Powerful, roomy, and comfortable.. I never really had a problem with it's size. My wife already has a Yukon XL 4x4 so if it wasn't for that, we'd probably still have the Tundra..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/twentyeight/DSCF0778-1.jpg

My bad, just realized you mentioned 06.. Sorry bout that...

GTABurnout
02-04-2012, 05:38 PM
I had a DC Tundra, I now have a DCSB Tacoma.

Tundra
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/GTABurnout/04%20Tundra/Tundra_2.jpg

Tacoma
http://www.desertstreetcars.com/pics/gtaburnout/Tacoma/10-7-11_14.jpg

I towed with my tundra once. And I hated it. It would only hold 4th with my foot in it and it got 8mpg. I sold it for a Diesel. Sold the diesel for a Tacoma.

I had the 04 Tundra that had the 4 speed. I hear the 5speed trucks (05+) are much better when towing. I do miss all the space. I liked having a full 6foot bed. But the Tacoma is just as powerful easier to park and nicer inside. It will also fit places a DC Tundra wont. I am sure if I need another truck to tow with it will be a new gen Tundra.

Saiyan66
02-04-2012, 06:06 PM
Get a Tacoma with a manual transmission and you wont have any issues with the tranny hunting for the right gear on hills.

austintaco
02-04-2012, 06:21 PM
I thought about getting a Tundra more than once, but what always stops me from doing it (besides the new payment), is that there are places we have been and places that I want to go where the Tundra either couldn't fit or it would get beat to heck.

On the subject of cruise control on the 00-04 era Tacoma, many in TX have the after market cruise control from Rostra. The factory cruise has the paddle handle on the lower right of the steering wheel, IIRC. The Rostra has a lever on the upper left of the steering column. I don't know if the actual factory cruise works better, but the Rostra CC does jump gear on hills on my 03 Tacoma DC with 255/85/16's. When I had 265/75/16's it wasn't as bad, but it was noticeable. When I get to rolling type hills, I usually take the cruise off.

The 5ft bed on the Tacoma limits your ability to sleep in the back. If you don't need the extra set of doors, the EX cab is more practical and you can get a 5spd with it. You can also find more camper options, if you go that route.

edit: the Tacoma seats are horrible. First mod should be doing a seat swap. I put some power heated seats in mine and now I am spoiled. I have lower back issues and before the mod, my low back and *** would be in pain on road trips.

TEJASYOTA
02-05-2012, 03:06 PM
My thoughts on my 2001 Taco DC
32 inchers (255 o 265/75-16) tires and gear.
1) Factory cruise control SUCKS... even on a small hill on the highway, it gets on the gas way too long. There have been many times, I took it off, so that I am not speeding past a cop.
2) Towing.. only a small utility trailer (5' version) for construction stuff and my lawn tractor.
3) Mpg - in the mid-teens.
4) storage - more than enough for me... it depends on what you plan to carry.
5) Going up major hills - had no trouble driving up them in my automatic (no cruise of course).

33 inchers (285/75-16) tires and gear.
1) Factory cruise still sucks.
2) Going up major hills - I have to give the gas more.. since I have not regeared my truck
3) Mpg - about the same.
4) Towing - have not had the chance to do it yet.

I have also thought of getting a newer Tundra xtra cab, but did not like the lower mpg and larger overall size when I off-road.
Love my Tacoma... I plan to own her until it rusts away. :)

offthebeatenpath
02-05-2012, 03:44 PM
I'm not going to add much to what's already been said, but we've got an 03 DC Tacoma, and we've got two kiddos in car seats in the back. The four of us in the cab going on a trip is pretty tight with all the odds and ends that need to be in the cab with us for the kiddos. Not sure I'd want to trade the tight space for a big thirsty truck, so we've still got our Tacoma.

There is no such thing as a perfect truck, at least not off the lot- It would look a lot like a Tacoma, but really have more room inside, but not actually be any wider outside. It would be light, like a Tacoma, but have the torque of a diesel, all-the-while paying petrol prices, and getting amazing mileage. The bed would be 6.5' long, but the truck wouldn't be any longer. You could fit 315's off the lot and change gear ratios with the flip of a switch. That's what I'd like, but I haven't seen one yet.

Dirtytires
02-05-2012, 04:18 PM
Tacoma..Tacoma.

Butcher54
02-05-2012, 06:57 PM
Remember I'm talking about the 1st Gen tundras. The ones that are the current Tacoma size. 00-06 tundras. Not the huge beefy. Bull dog looking ones. Its would just be me and one passenger. And plus dog. I would convert the rear passenger area into storage pull outs. The bed I would build my own low profile rack so the RTT wouldn't be above the cab

skiroc
02-05-2012, 08:20 PM
I just sold a 2006 Tacoma 4x4, 4 cyl, manual. I was the original owner and planned to keep it many years. I decided to get a FWC camper which at 1000 lbs, was going to be just too much for this truck. So I started looking for a Tacoma with a V6. I came across a 2006 Tundra 4x4 with 36k miles that was immaculate, so I bought it. I've been driving 45 years and have always had the low end models of every car I've bought - always 4 cyl, and always manual. The Tundra I just bought is the TRD model and with a V8/auto, has more power than anything I've ever had. It is an absolute joy to drive. I live in So Cal, and the truck was in Oregon. I averaged 18.3 mpg on the drive home of just over 1000 miles. It has a 2" lift and aggressive tires. I figure I'll get at least another 1 mpg when I remove the lift and get Michelin LTX M/S2 tires. It's not much bigger than my Tacoma, and I think I'll actually get better mpg than a Tacoma V6 when I add the camper - the Tundra V8 will not need to work as hard.

Dirtytires
02-06-2012, 12:28 AM
It would be awesome if Toyota put the V8 in the Tacoma. I have the V6 in mine and I enjoy it.

daveyboy
02-06-2012, 02:39 AM
I had an 08 5.7L 4x4 Tundra and the power was great.. But the gas mileage was horrendous..:Wow1: I averaged around 11/12.. I've argued with other Tundra owners over this but have also had past tundra owners agree with me so who knows. I do know that some folks tend to exagerate their MPG a bit and was kinda prepared for the Tundra not quite getting the advertised MPG, but it just never really came close.. Great truck though other than that. Powerful, roomy, and comfortable.. I never really had a problem with it's size. My wife already has a Yukon XL 4x4 so if it wasn't for that, we'd probably still have the Tundra..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/twentyeight/DSCF0778-1.jpg

My bad, just realized you mentioned 06.. Sorry bout that...

I have an '08, 5.7, 4x4, DC Tundra and have never even had close to that bad of MPG unless I was towing. I even averaged better than that on a 3000+ mile trip through 8 Rocky Mountain states at 8000 GVW with a truck camper.

bigwapitijohnny
02-06-2012, 03:02 AM
I looked at other Toyota platforms from my '98 4runner. I considered the Land Cruiser (80, 100 and 200 series), Taco, and 2nd and 3rd gen Tundras. I found that the '00-'06 Tundra prices were still pretty high ~ 'crewcab' configuration, high miles for about 22-25K. I bought my 2011 for just a little bit more ~ more power and room. Granted, this will not go some places off-road, however, the majority of where I go around here is very doable with this rig. Besides, it tows the Sherpa II with NO issues whatsoever...:smiley_drive:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u38/bigwapitijohnny/Tundra/300126523_photobucket_6012_.jpg

Regards,

BWJ

skiroc
02-06-2012, 03:20 AM
I found that the '00-'06 Tundra prices were still pretty high ~ 'crewcab' configuration, high miles for about 22-25K.

I found my 2006 Tundra 4x4 fully loaded TRD with 36k miles for $19k. Its perfect, don't know if I lucked out, but I grabbed it quick.

bigwapitijohnny
02-06-2012, 04:08 AM
If I would have come across this kind of deal...Who knows...

Congratulations.

Regards,

BWJ

Butcher54
02-06-2012, 04:14 AM
this is what im thinking of the tundra, dont hate on my 2 min rendering,

washington taco
02-06-2012, 04:53 AM
this is what im thinking of the tundra, dont hate on my 2 min rendering,

Perfect!

washington taco
02-06-2012, 04:55 AM
05-06 Best years 5 speed auto and higher horse power.

Derek24
02-06-2012, 07:47 AM
Go with a Tundra, everyone has a Taco....

Butcher54
02-06-2012, 12:02 PM
@Derek. Your tundra looks good. You installed a ARB locker.....right?

01tundra
02-06-2012, 12:02 PM
I traded two ('01 & '08) Tundras for a ('03) Tacoma and I'm very happy with my decision to do so.

Derek24
02-06-2012, 06:39 PM
@Derek. Your tundra looks good. You installed a ARB locker.....right?

Yes sir! Thanks! Probably the best mod I've done, although I don't use it much when I do it's great! Just saying though, if I sold my Tundra I'd get a Tacoma, they are nice!

Butcher54
02-07-2012, 05:07 AM
@ 01Tundra (soon to be 03Tacoma), Is it your daily driver? ive seen your build and have talked to you via PM, your build looks AWESOME but does the smaller cabin size bother you? the tundras feel like your sitting in a seat and not on the floor. however the first mod i would do on a DC tacoma would be a seat swap. Tacomas around her are around 13-14K (00-04). while you can get in a nice Tundra for $9000. taco=payments Tundra=Paid+instant mods. Living in South/Central Texas we dont really have all the tight trail like some of yall in Colorado do.

Tundra wheelbase is 7inches longer.
Trying to find a number for power to weight ratio.(weight divided but HP should tell me how much weith 1HP will have to haul)
so for every one HP the Tundra carries 16.7lbs\
and for the Taco it is 20.4lbs

now given shift points, gearing will all play a factor in the acceleration and top speed

01tundra
02-07-2012, 12:00 PM
Everyone told me that I would feel cramped, but I really don't. Yes it is a daily driver. To me, it has plenty of room, the only differences I notice are that the cab is not as wide and there's more room in the back seat area (as compared to my '01 access cab Tundra). To me, the Tacoma seems easier to drive due to the weight difference. I always felt that my '01 was off in the power to weight ratio, the '08 was good in that department, as is the Tacoma.

The biggest difference I see is in bed capacity, but since I don't really haul much, it doesn't really bother me. I would rather have the additional space in the cab.

JCMatthews
02-08-2012, 05:04 PM
Your Tundra idea picture looks great. The V8 will be welcomed on any trip. The gas mileage is almost identical between the Taco and Tundra. The power however is not. The '05 Tundras have 282 hp and 325 ft. lbs. of torgue. I spent a week last summer in the mts. of Colorado pulling a camp trailer, and the power combined with the 5 speed transmission worked great. I too have a family, and there would be no way for me to have a Taco. I switched from a '97 Cherokee, and I miss where it would take me and how easliy it would park, but those are the only things I miss. I am able to do some rough offroad, just not rock crawling.

JonnyA
02-08-2012, 10:27 PM
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So I went from the 06' DC Tundra only had 20k miles on it- (fell asleep at the wheel and totaled it) to this 2010 DC longbed Tacoma
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I have two kids under the age of 4, so road tripping/camping with them is on the tight side. I also have an 05 Jayco Baja 10z like this one (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/32182-2005-Jayco-10Z-Baja-Offroad-pop-up-camper-Colorado) The taco pulled it fairly well, I loved the looks of it, and it drove great. However- I really love the size of the 04-06 DC Tundras. Roomy and much more comfortable with my family. SO, I had a buyer that really wanted my truck, and I really couldn't pass up his offer. So I found another Tundra- it is a 05, and has 80k on it. I got it for $16k, put another 4k in wheels, suspension, stereo- got it the way I like it. My Tundra averages around 15mph the tacoma was around 17mpg. I really wish they had a diesel tundra in my year.
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Butcher54
02-14-2012, 12:12 PM
Well I scored a 02 tundra with 54k miles. Build thread is in order.

Blair '72
02-14-2012, 01:58 PM
I went from a Tundra to a Tacoma. I had a 2010 5.7L crewmax. It was huge and took some time to get used to driving. Parking lots and parking garages were a challenge even with a conservative 3" lift and 33" tires. Offroad it was a little too big and heavy for tight trails and soft sand/mud. It got stuck a lot more often than I care to admit. Gas mileage averaged 15-16 mpg and was unltimately the reason I got rid of it. However, the back seat was huge and with the front bench seat you could seat 2 adults and 4 kids in comfort.

I traded it in for a lightly used 2008 v6 tacoma double cab. Although I miss the interior room of the Tundra, that is really the only thing. I get a solid 20 mpg and it is much more capable offroad even with a conservative 2" lift and 32" tires. Tires and parts are cheaper and insurance too. If I was towing a lot the Tundra would get the nod, but for my needs the Tacoma was a better choice.

Derek24
02-14-2012, 05:53 PM
Well I scored a 02 tundra with 54k miles. Build thread is in order.

Nice! Such low miles too, good find! Mine has 145K+ miles and its been though everything and still not one rattle, squeak, nothing! You'll enjoy it!

Butcher54
02-15-2012, 12:17 PM
Ya my 01 tundra before this one had 80k on it and sold it with 150k. Couldn't find a truck around here with under 150k. And it would be some college kid that had it and ragged it out. So I opted for alittle more dough for a virgin truck. Gonna feel kinda bad cutting the rear best sides off. LOCKER IS ORDERED.

WASURF63
02-21-2012, 01:12 AM
I've owned several Toyota trucks since the early 80's. All have thier pros and very few cons.
I don't think I've ever left one of them completely stock. If your not carrying much with you, most year models probably do just fine left the way they come off the lot, for most people. Better mpg for sure. Once you start adding taller tires and heavy mods you can wave adios to your mpg. I never seem to leave anything alone, so I've got the disease alot of us here on ExPo have.......oh well.
My first Tundra was a 2000 DC (pic #1) that went over 200k before moving on. It was good off road, towed a boat well, but once my daughter was born the rear AC doors became a PIA.
On to an '08 Tacoma DC (pic #2) and a growing family. Great on tight trails, had an e-locker, but fairly useless bed for our purposes.
Next was a '10 Tacoma DC LB (pic #3) for the pupose of more space in the ATFP. Turning radius was pretty good for such a long wheelbase truck, uncomfortable seats on long drives, but pretty good truck off/on road.
Now I'm back to an '05 Tundra DC (pic #4). Very roomy, comfortable, and with more hp for the future Phoenix Pop Up camper. Once again, different needs.
This one by far, has the poorest turning radius. Pros and cons.......right?



Well I scored a 02 tundra with 54k miles. Build thread is in order.

Congrats on the new to you Tundra, Aaron!