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JasonRedwood
02-06-2012, 07:38 PM
I decided to start my build thread in the yota section rather than in the pop-up camper section due to other modifications that will happen after the first can-o-worms is sealed up.

Current state of vehicle:
Nothing special... yet
1989 4runner 3.0 cargo version----->(no back seats or useable side panels).
1.5 BJ spacers and upgraded torsion bars in the front.
Zuk mod in the rear with 12" 125lbs helper springs in the rear.
Some one cut stole my catalytic converter in broad day light so now I have, temporarily, a straight pipe to cherry bomb.
Cheap cold air intake.
Softtopper top

Future mods:
4.88 gears and lockers front and back.
moveable winch mounts and winch
longtravel IFS and deaver leafs springs in the rear.
upgraded disk brakes
3.4 V6 conversion

Flip-pac camper shell(currently in process):)
custom barn doors
Swing out tire carrier
Bumper and floor mod to fold out into steps

This is in Joushua tree over a year ago but still pretty much what it looks like
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5015/5527786530_2467e193c9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/5527786530/)

The 4runner at my buddy's shop with Flip-pac placed on top.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6831191325_448c15fd4e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6831191325/)

The Flip-pac rails curve down just on top of the runner rails. Looks nice and I think with the way we are planning on mounting everything together we should have a nice seal and decent look.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6831191277_9c46763c5b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6831191277/)

Our plan is to run thick walled 1" square aluminum down the rails. We are thinking that riveting 2" flat, sandwiching the flippac camper rail between the flat and the square will hold up. Oh and after sandwiching this all together using resin and fiberglass to for more strength and a better finish. Attaching aluminum L brackets to correspond with the factory holes, and notching out the flippac rails will give me access to bolt the flip-pac down. Below is a picture of my softtoper rail in place where the custom rail will go for reference.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6831191293_cd2aae2295_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6831191293/)

Just a dry fit with aluminum spacers and camper flipped over.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6831191315_0bf4b2c731_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6831191315/)

I took a template of the original camper and cut out the shape from the front wall of the flip-pac.
When the flip-pac is sitting flush on the 4runner, this hole will actually be straddling about 1/4 of the highest area of the cab. We plan on retaining the original camper shell's front mounting system into the Flip-pac mounting system. Using a clip system and bolts, as well as fiberglass we will make the transition a nice one.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7016/6831191331_e21cfbe63e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6831191331/)

Progress might be a little slow on this build due to work and my buddy's shop is 1.5 hours away from me, thats with no traffic...
If you are into checking out any of his other work click here
http://sbhancock.com/
He does some real nice work in southern cali.

Please feel free to comment or ask questions.:beer:

ab1985
02-06-2012, 07:57 PM
I know many people, myself included, want to see a finished 4Runner/Flip-pac combo. Good luck!

NM-Frontier
02-06-2012, 11:44 PM
Looks like you are off to a good start! When your done you should have one nice ride and camper. Keep up the good work, I cant wait to see how you seal up the front to the cab of the truck.

Diese l4-Runner
02-07-2012, 02:35 AM
I am glad someone else is doing a build as well. I am also curious to see how you seal up the fron to the cab of the truck. I want to do something of a flip-pac as well. I have a 86 4runner that I am going to swap a 86 toyota turbo diesel from a truck into that needs to be done before anything else.

thebrassnuckles
02-07-2012, 03:52 AM
lookin good man. keep up the good work! I'm hoping to get a good amount of glass on mine this sunday.

vanisl4runner
02-07-2012, 04:58 AM
WOW....I am truly Inspired

JasonRedwood
02-07-2012, 05:15 AM
lookin good man. keep up the good work! I'm hoping to get a good amount of glass on mine this sunday.
Brass-
What kind of glass are you going with? I think Im pretty set on West Sytem's products (http://www.westsystem.com/ss/).
After reading other threads and websites most info points towards them. They got an awesome customer service department as well.
I emailed them one day and by the end of the next day a rep called me back, left a detailed message answering all my questions. AND said to call him back if I had any more questions.
I was surprised just you dont really see any sort of quality customer service any more.

ps good luck with the glassing this weekend bud.

thebrassnuckles
02-07-2012, 05:31 AM
Brass-
What kind of glass are you going with? I think Im pretty set on West Sytem's products (http://www.westsystem.com/ss/).
After reading other threads and websites most info points towards them. They got an awesome customer service department as well.
I emailed them one day and by the end of the next day a rep called me back, left a detailed message answering all my questions. AND said to call him back if I had any more questions.
I was surprised just you dont really see any sort of quality customer service any more.

ps good luck with the glassing this weekend bud.

I was just gonna go to the local boat shop and pick up some of their stuff (my mom worked there for 15 years). I have a couple books on fiberglass repair that I have been reading.

I kinda play things fast and loose.. but things usually work out for me. haha.

I hope everything works out in my favor this weekend.

bigreen505
02-07-2012, 07:59 PM
I think Im pretty set on West Sytem's products (http://www.westsystem.com/ss/).


I would strongly encourage you both to call West/Gougeon and explain to them what you are doing, and the loads and forces involved. I think you would be much better off going with Pro-Set over standard West 105/207 resins as you will need something with some elasticity in it. Gougeon has lots of different resins that are not advertised that may be a better match. West is great for building unyielding structures, but it is brittle.

JasonRedwood
02-07-2012, 09:44 PM
Thanks Bill, Ill give them a call.

Edit:
Just spoke to Don at West Systems this morning.
I had sent him a link to this thread so he could get an idea of what I am trying to accomplish.
Don suggested using their G-Flex system in combination with their liquid version of the accompanying resin.(honey consistency)

JasonRedwood
02-20-2012, 07:09 PM
Saturday I did a little more trimming on the flip-pac the front of the og 4runner top.
We were really happy with the dry fit.

This will be the position of the camper in the end.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7184/6911197079_0cfe7a766b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6911197079/)

You can see the lack of light showing through here. After the weather stripping I think the bottom of the sleeping platform will be just right.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/6911197201_303ff5efe3_b.jpg

Heres a shot with the 4runner rim sitting in place that will be bonded to the flip-pac.
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6911197469/]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7201/6911197469_24fd3114e5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6911197201/)

I plan on ordering the West System G-Flex resin, fiberglass, and filler this week. Hoping to get some glass done in the next few weeks.

ab1985
02-20-2012, 07:52 PM
Loving the updates and pics - keep them coming! All your fellow 1st gen owners are cheering you on!:victory:

JasonRedwood
02-20-2012, 07:57 PM
Loving the updates and pics - keep them coming! All your fellow 1st gen owners are cheering you on!:victory:

HAHA thanks man. I just realized that this mod is going to lock me into a 1st gen 4runner forever maybe... Ha

thebrassnuckles
02-20-2012, 08:13 PM
HAHA thanks man. I just realized that this mod is going to lock me into a 1st gen 4runner forever maybe... Ha

Hey, At least it's a good platform.

JasonRedwood
02-20-2012, 10:13 PM
Hey, At least it's a good platform.

I agree!

JasonRedwood
02-20-2012, 11:40 PM
Any one have an idea of where i should look for weather stripping for the area between the aluminum rails, 4runner rails and the flip-pac rails.
See below for the area I'm talking about.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6912791567_27e747ed81_b.jpg

Dave Bennett
02-21-2012, 02:19 AM
PM sent :costumed-smiley-007

montypower
02-21-2012, 02:40 AM
That's a really neat concept and idea. It would be cool if a manufacturer would make one specific for the 4runner. The interior access to your sleeping area will be wonderful. I'm curious about how weather tight it will be. Keep it up!

4runnin'
02-21-2012, 05:20 AM
Work faster! I need more updates haha! looks good!

trump
02-21-2012, 06:16 AM
I'm subscribed to thebrassnuckles thread. I'm adding this to my list. Looking good.

ab1985
02-21-2012, 05:24 PM
PM sent :costumed-smiley-007
Care to share your recommendation with the rest of the world?:sombrero:

JasonRedwood, they sell weatherstripping at the local big box stores that would fit that bill. It's 1-2" wide with adhesive on one side and comes in rolls from 3-15 ft (or more). I used it between the tool box and bed rails of my Tacoma. I'm not sure if would be heavy duty enough for your application, but you could check it out for ideas.

I'm thinking something like this:

http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Hardware-Fasteners-Weather-Stripping/h_d1/N-ard7Z5yc1v/R-100047977/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051

JasonRedwood
02-21-2012, 10:43 PM
PM sent :costumed-smiley-007



Care to share your recommendation with the rest of the world?:sombrero:

JasonRedwood, they sell weatherstripping at the local big box stores that would fit that bill. It's 1-2" wide with adhesive on one side and comes in rolls from 3-15 ft (or more). I used it between the tool box and bed rails of my Tacoma. I'm not sure if would be heavy duty enough for your application, but you could check it out for ideas.

I'm thinking something like this:

http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Hardware-Fasteners-Weather-Stripping/h_d1/N-ard7Z5yc1v/R-100047977/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051

Thanks for the reply to my PM Tacodoc!
I dont think my reply was sent last night when I wrote back using my iphone.
Not sure if I am going to make it a permanent setup or not yet.

AB1985- Below is Doc's response from my PM to him.

Here is a product similar to what AT uses for their FlipPac installs...

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Wea...&cm_vc=IDPRRZ1

I'd use EPDM rubber (OEM's use this for door seals etc) with copious automotive grade silicone for the irregular areas (sharp corners, gaps, etc). I assume that you'll be mounting that FP permanently. In that case, EPDM rubber on ALL flat surfaces (cab interface, bed rail surfaces) and then I'd run a small thin bead externally especially along the cab interface so that wind/rain is routed away from the EPDM bulb seal - think layered defense. Then, for that interior area that you have shown between the 1 inch aluminum and the interior, I'd cushion/insulate that with some nice fat/wide closed cell foam (EPDM is $$ compared to closed cell foam) to inhibit drafts/chafing etc. Take your time and do a detailed job that will last - taking the shell off to fix what you missed is a PITA so do it once and do it right. And bring that sucker out to the Desert Rendezvous in March so we can take pics!

I have been digging around on Mcmasters.com:) and I think Im going to use a combination of gaskets glued together to fill the space properly. Mcmasters carries 1" square weather stripping that may end up as the neighbor to the aluminum rail, both would be sandwiched between 2x1/8th inch strips. Then an additional "bulb" seal added to the mix to creep into the interior side of the rails.

ab1985
02-21-2012, 10:55 PM
This thread is going to become a great resource for all of us 1st gen guys drooling over the idea of a flip-pac. Good info!:elkgrin:

Dave Bennett
02-22-2012, 01:10 AM
Glad to help out :)

toyota_jon
02-22-2012, 02:54 AM
great build so far keep it up! I'd love to do something similar to my 1st gen!

Dave Bennett
02-22-2012, 03:04 AM
I hope you get this done in time for the Desert Rendezvous, rumor has is that we're going to have some journalist coverage from some well known organizations... ;)

JasonRedwood
02-22-2012, 03:19 AM
I hope you get this done in time for the Desert Rendezvous, rumor has is that we're going to have some journalist coverage from some well known organizations... ;)

I would really like to have it done by then... well at least to a presentable state.
Its doable for sure
After the mod I still need to clean the tent and do a torsion bar delete, which shouldn't take more than a day for both.

john doe
02-22-2012, 04:15 AM
When I 1st saw this thread I was thinking it was a new product. Sadly I was quickly corrected by seeing what was obviously an older unit. Regardless I really like this idea. Keep up the good work.

JasonRedwood
02-22-2012, 04:11 PM
When I 1st saw this thread I was thinking it was a new product. Sadly I was quickly corrected by seeing what was obviously an older unit. Regardless I really like this idea. Keep up the good work.

I think a flip-pac style soft sided pop top would be amazing. Using the can-back metal frame as the design jumping point. Something that had a hard platform for the roof and a place to sleep of course.

Caoboy
02-22-2012, 04:22 PM
Would expanding foam be an acceptable filler/insulator for that gap?

JasonRedwood
02-22-2012, 08:10 PM
Would expanding foam be an acceptable filler/insulator for that gap?

I thought about that... I dont know much about expanding foam. I wonder, for the most part, if expanding foam is closed cell. I wouldnt want to trap moisture or other stuff in there. I thought about expanding foam and fiberglass combo. This weekend we are going figure this one out.

trump
02-22-2012, 10:07 PM
Personally, I would get HDPE 2x4's (or the most suitable size) and either epoxy it to the bottom of the Flip-pac or glass it in place. However, my solutions are rarely cheap.

JasonRedwood
02-23-2012, 12:50 AM
Personally, I would get HDPE 2x4's (or the most suitable size) and either epoxy it to the bottom of the Flip-pac or glass it in place. However, my solutions are rarely cheap.

Never heard of the stuff till now. I really like the idea of milling down hdpe to fit the contour of the 4runner rails. Its really not that expensive considering how little of it i would need. If things end up going south after we finish our current route i will use hdpe.
Thanks Trump

trump
02-23-2012, 01:26 AM
Never heard of the stuff till now. I really like the idea of milling down hdpe to fit the contour of the 4runner rails. Its really not that expensive considering how little of it i would need. If things end up going south after we finish our current route i will use hdpe.
Thanks Trump

No worries. These 4runner/Flip-pac combos are sweet. There's a really nicely built 1st gen 4runner down the street from me... I will be in a tough spot if I ever see a for sale sign in the window.

JasonRedwood
03-05-2012, 05:47 PM
This last weekend we made a little bit of progress. Looks like we are about to be to the point of glassing the two tops together.
Its gona look ugly before its gets pretty...

Here is aluminum rail with the brackets rivetted.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6810191334_df30380e6a.jpg

Notched out area on flippac rail for bolt access.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6956301041_2183885b63.jpg

Interior view of 4runner rim bolted in place next to where the Flip-pac will sit.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6810191306_08372c8b5a.jpg

Aluminum L bracket that will be riveted and or screw the 4runner rim and Flip-pac together.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7199/6810191258_b597eeb17a.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6810191354_b84014c7fb.jpg

Afterwards all bonding and transitions will be fiberglassed over.

On a side note, I seemed to have found a leak. Seems that water might be getting in from the rear latch that holds the top down.
Or maybe it is getting in from the front torsion bar hinge and making its way back to the rear. Im not sure that water could get all the way down the side from front to back though. I plan on keeping it covered and dry. Hopefully after a few good hot summer months I can reseal it with silicone having minimal moisture in there.

dorton
03-05-2012, 11:46 PM
I'm loving this build. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.

JasonRedwood
03-08-2012, 08:08 AM
The ball joint quick disconnects (http://www.midwestcontrol.com/series.php?id=21) came in today. Planning on replacing the snapped torsion bar, similar to what Timber (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/59441-replacing-flip-pac-torsion-bar/page4) has done.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6817611886_6daaebe40f_b.jpg

Pictures of Fiber glassing attempt 1.0 to come after the weekend.

upcountry
03-09-2012, 04:08 PM
"Pictures of Fiber glassing attempt 1.0 to come after the weekend."

Looking forward to this. Having repaired many surfboards, I can only imagine what a larger scale glassing effort would be like.

Love the creativity in making an awesome custom setup.

BTW....where did you get the quick disconnect for the sway bar??

JasonRedwood
03-09-2012, 06:42 PM
"Pictures of Fiber glassing attempt 1.0 to come after the weekend."

Looking forward to this. Having repaired many surfboards, I can only imagine what a larger scale glassing effort would be like.

Love the creativity in making an awesome custom setup.

BTW....where did you get the quick disconnect for the sway bar??


I liked the design of the ones at http://www.midwestcontrol.com/series.php?id=21.
Mcmaster.com also has an amazing selection of everything.

JasonRedwood
03-15-2012, 12:36 AM
This can of worms is moving at a snails pace. Last weekend I sanded just about all the edges to be bonded. Rain in the forecast this weekend so there wont be any progress.
The lines and proportions are perfect in my eye.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6983276347_1f03b5f03f.jpg

ab1985
03-15-2012, 01:11 AM
Loving it! If I ever see a flip-pac in this side of the U.S. I'm snatching that thing up for my 4Runner.

Jeff@QuadShop
03-15-2012, 06:25 PM
Loving it! If I ever see a flip-pac in this side of the U.S. I'm snatching that thing up for my 4Runner.

Not if I see it first! :sombrero:

Toyotero
03-15-2012, 06:56 PM
That's looking good man!

suntinez
03-15-2012, 07:12 PM
This can of worms is moving at a snails pace. Last weekend I sanded just about all the edges to be bonded. Rain in the forecast this weekend so there wont be any progress.
The lines and proportions are perfect in my eye.


I agree! In fact I can't stop thinking about doing this to my 88 4runner. Thanks for blazing the trail :)

Jeff@QuadShop
03-15-2012, 07:17 PM
I agree! In fact I can't stop thinking about doing this to my 88 4runner. Thanks for blazing the trail :)

There is another guy here that put one on a white 1st gen a few years aso. There's a build thread somewhere.

JasonRedwood
03-15-2012, 08:42 PM
Not if I see it first! :sombrero:
I recommend using http://www.allofcraigs.com/ when searching for used anything. Thats how I found mine. Love that site!

Thanks guys, this custom mod is frustrating but its gona be well worth it.
If I was to do it over I would find some of the HDPE(plastic lumber) and mill the piece to fit like TRUMP suggested.
Its very difficult to find any HDPE in California thicker than 3/4". I only found one place in Cali that sold the 3/4" stuff.
The one company that would ship the $12 piece to me wanted over $200 for shipping. I guess because of the 6 foot length...?
My route might prove to be fine though, we will see after it hits the trails


There is another guy here that put one on a white 1st gen a few years aso. There's a build thread somewhere.

Yeah Brassknuckles is doing the flip-pac conversion as well. He has a young child so I would imagine that things move at a different pace. My dogs can just sit and watch me. ha

Jeff@QuadShop
03-15-2012, 08:48 PM
I use www.searchtempest.com

Caoboy
03-15-2012, 10:07 PM
HDPE as in High Density Poly Ethylene?

If so, TAP Plastics makes a bonding agent for polyethylene. You could always bond boards together and then mill out what you need.

JasonRedwood
03-15-2012, 10:19 PM
HDPE as in High Density Poly Ethylene?

If so, TAP Plastics makes a bonding agent for polyethylene. You could always bond boards together and then mill out what you need.

Yeah, High Density Poly Ethylene.
Thanks for the info. Ill keep that in mind.

thebrassnuckles
03-17-2012, 01:53 AM
I

Yeah Brassknuckles is doing the flip-pac conversion as well. He has a young child so I would imagine that things move at a different pace. My dogs can just sit and watch me. ha


Young children. Ha ha.

Also, work has been insane lately. Lots of weekends. But it should calm down soon enough. Hopefully.

JasonRedwood
04-08-2012, 05:46 AM
Got the 4runner forward rim attached to the flip-pac today. We used aluminum angle to bridge the two pieces. After using the g-flex system to glue the angle to both campers we riveted and screwed the angle to the ajoining fiberglass. Tomorrow the fiberglassing over everything begins. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/7055699343_5d60d8d99c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7055699343/)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5324/6909605854_95ce9d1877.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/6909605854/)
Just having the angle bonded to everything made the whole fusion very rigid. With the fiberglass its going to work out great.

ab1985
04-08-2012, 02:17 PM
It's really coming together now.:victory:

JasonRedwood
04-09-2012, 04:47 PM
Baby steps. This is my first time fiber glassing. Took more time and materials than I expected but its getting there. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/6914937130_55cc29a51f.jpg

dorton
04-24-2012, 11:59 PM
Hows it coming? Had any time to work on it?

JasonRedwood
04-25-2012, 01:53 AM
Hows it coming? Had any time to work on it?

It hasn't had any progress on it. Came down with Bronchitis a couple weeks ago, got over that recently.
Im getting hitched on the 18th so most of my extra time is going to the preparations of that.

Believe me there is not a day that goes by that I don't think about it. HA

On a side note, I have some still new in box headers from Downey Off-Road, heading towards my house as we speak.:wings:
Also might have my long travel suspension coming soon...

JasonRedwood
06-18-2012, 05:44 PM
Got the Flip-pac bonded to the 4runner rim this last weekend!
I'm really happy with the West System G-flex sytem, amazing stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a5RlcP-4JE).
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5326/7394972126_4f497d61d4_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7394972126/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7230/7394972566_8069a21279_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7394972566/)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/7394972706_d43eb81ebb_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7394972706/)
Next weekend I plan to put 2-3 more layers on the top inside transition for extra support.
After the next layer of glass on the inside I plan on using an epoxy/resin clay to pretty up the fiber glass before paint.
May end up using bondo depending on how the clay tests with everything.

Removed the old torsion bar that was snapped and replaced with stainless steel nuts and bolts. Also a milled graphite impregnated brass bushing to through the center of the camper arms.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8014/7394972236_dc799788f7_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7394972236/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7235/7394972350_d39b0a29fb_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7394972350/)
I dug out the silicone and saw plenty of erosion on the inside.
The plan as of now is to let the pre-siliconed areas air out for a week then inject gorilla glue as deep as we can get it. Gorilla glue expands and cures when exposed to moisture. The hope is that the glue will fill any voids and dry out the innards as much as possible. After the glue I will cover the area with marine silicone.

I welcome any and all suggestions.

Jason

ab1985
06-18-2012, 05:55 PM
I welcome any and all suggestions.
No suggestions here. Just taking lots of notes and wondering where I can get my hands on a flip-pac on the east coast.:drool:

thebrassnuckles
06-18-2012, 11:18 PM
Awesome! Looks great!

Clutch
06-19-2012, 12:42 AM
Are you replacing the torsion bar with gas struts instead?

JasonRedwood
06-19-2012, 03:17 AM
Are you replacing the torsion bar with gas struts instead?

No it will manual labor that Im replacing the torsion bar with.

thebrassnuckles
06-19-2012, 03:47 AM
Where did you get the bushings for your hinges? I have been trying to figure something out for mine.

Clutch
06-19-2012, 03:48 AM
No it will manual labor that Im replacing the torsion bar with.

Make you strong like bull...:elkgrin:




How are you going to support the lid when open?
From my understanding the "legs" keep it from closing, and it
is the torsion bar that supports most of the weight.

JasonRedwood
06-19-2012, 05:29 AM
Where did you get the bushings for your hinges? I have been trying to figure something out for mine.
The Bronze bushing I got from mcmaster-carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1129/=i1fjya). #6391K412
We had to mill down the one side that inserts through the hinge with the splines. Didn't have anything to take down the splines. Also, we reused the stock plastic inserts on the other half and had to open those up slightly to get the bushing through them.
For the bolts (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3147/=i1fls0) I went with the same site. #92186A386 and the accompanying nuts (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3187/=i1fmfp). #94804A345
I also used Low Friction plastic washers (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3226/=i1fn7j) between things, even between each arm.#95630A505

JasonRedwood
06-19-2012, 05:38 AM
Make you strong like bull...:elkgrin:




How are you going to support the lid when open?
From my understanding the "legs" keep it from closing, and it
is the torsion bar that supports most of the weight.

I plan on doing something similar to what a few other members have done.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/59441-replacing-flip-pac-torsion-bar/page4
There should be enough support there. If not I will reinforce it later. I'll consider to just more fiberglass practice. Ha.

JasonRedwood
06-19-2012, 05:42 AM
One other thing. the way the hinges are designed to enter the camper and lid act like funnels for water. If some one was to re-design the flip-pac camper that should be addressed. Or some sort of functional wind breaker cap that encompassed the entire torsion bar area which also acted to keep water out of the hinge area.

Clutch
06-19-2012, 02:38 PM
I plan on doing something similar to what a few other members have done.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/59441-replacing-flip-pac-torsion-bar/page4
There should be enough support there. If not I will reinforce it later. I'll consider to more fiberglass practice. Ha.

Looks like Timber came up with a great solution. Looks beef!

JasonRedwood
06-19-2012, 04:31 PM
Looks like Timber came up with a great solution. Looks beef!
Yeah just kept it simple. Who woulda thunk? :)

Clutch
06-19-2012, 05:51 PM
Yeah just kept it simple. Who woulda thunk? :)

LOL...yep the K.I.S.S. method is usually the best method.

You guys are making me regret selling my 4Runner...

JasonRedwood
06-23-2012, 07:19 AM
Just got to my buddy's shop and discovered the last layer of glass hasn't set. #%$!'n going be mess taking it off in the morning to redo...

JasonRedwood
06-25-2012, 02:17 AM
User error and a learning lesson to double check your ratios.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5455/7436671636_5f963b0666_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7436671636/)

JasonRedwood
06-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Any ideas on weather stripping to seal up the areas around the rear window. That area is going to be the only part that will allow dust in... hoping. :)

Clutch
06-27-2012, 08:02 PM
Bulb seal...?

107925

timber
06-29-2012, 03:37 AM
Haven't really worked on the weatherstripping yet but for the couple times I have been in the talc like powder for any length of time I just duct taped the window and tailgate shut. Works fine for the day. Wouldn't be so handy if you stop and get in and out of the back several times a day. I do have plans to make it more dust tight with some fridge bulb seal I have left over for the tailgate and better sealing around the bottom of the window. Some day I will get around to it? but duct tape is cheap, fast and works every time really well.

Mc Taco
06-29-2012, 05:37 AM
...I just duct taped the window and tailgate shut...but duct tape is cheap, fast and works every time really well...

Hijack-ON
I wonder how blue painters tape would do? Low glue residue on the paint. Is it cheaper than DUCT* tape?




* You're a good man Timber.

Hijack-OFF

JasonRedwood
06-29-2012, 03:43 PM
Hijack-ON
I wonder how blue painters tape would do? Low glue residue on the paint. Is it cheaper than DUCT* tape?




* You're a good man Timber.

Hijack-OFF

Haha I was just thinking the same McTaco, after reading Timbers post.
It'll work in the mean time for sure. I definitely want to get it sealed up for every day use seeing its now open cab to the back.

Thanks all, especially Timber, you have been a great source of answers man.:beer:

4Rescue
07-01-2012, 06:19 AM
Oh god... this one I gotta see finished... I just rouned my keyboard drooling over this. hell I saw the thread title and couldn't click it fast enough. From one 1st Gen 4Runner guy to another... this is AWESOME!!!!!! I always find it funny how everyone is trying to figure out how to do this with jeeps and yet the 1st Gen 4Runner is by far the best platform for this kind of mod aye. They really are some amazing little trucks.

Cheers

Dave

JasonRedwood
07-02-2012, 08:15 AM
Oh god... this one I gotta see finished... I just rouned my keyboard drooling over this. hell I saw the thread title and couldn't click it fast enough. From one 1st Gen 4Runner guy to another... this is AWESOME!!!!!! I always find it funny how everyone is trying to figure out how to do this with jeeps and yet the 1st Gen 4Runner is by far the best platform for this kind of mod aye. They really are some amazing little trucks.

Cheers

Dave

THANKS DAVE. Gotta love these little rigs.

JasonRedwood
07-02-2012, 08:26 AM
Today I got the FLip-pac mounted and dorve it back down to Los Angeles, 115 miles.
Added some 100lb. 14" coils in the rear to compensate for the weight.(Zuk mod)
Drove as expected with the added 300ish lbs. Kept the lead out of my foot. I think the MPG is close the same as it has been with the soft top. I believe all the drag from the soft top and sides rolled was sucking the mileage down.

I still need to finish the brackets and supports for the deployed sleeping area. Cleaning up the interior, new mattress, make a mattress cover, and cleaning the tent are next but she is in her driveway.

Anyway here are a few pictures.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7485214596_78f83b140a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7485214596/)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8028/7485218432_100f39bdc4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7485218432/)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8015/7485220722_a28d4cbfd2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7485220722/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7246/7485223814_a7840032a9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7485223814/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7485226984_e608d6e765.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7485226984/)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7485229472_a38db1e8b2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonredwood/7485229472/)

john101477
07-02-2012, 01:48 PM
Thats just freekin cool!!!

Palehorse1
07-02-2012, 02:17 PM
Jason,

Absolutely stoked for you man, Looks great and and it looks like it's gonna be heaping handfuls of fun. Been telling an "internet challenged" friend of mine about your project as he too is an early 4Runner enthusiast and the envy is certainly there. I reckon that lots of folks will see your setup as "the ideal" for early 4Runner camping/wheeling arrangements. I know that I do and can barely wait to see the next set of photos from you.

thebrassnuckles
07-02-2012, 03:50 PM
Congrats on finishing! Looks real good.

When I get back stateside I'm gonna try to hit mine hard and heavy.

trump
07-02-2012, 04:41 PM
Love it!

My imagination is running wild with all the cool stuff you could do with an interior build. Having latches you could work from the inside to allow you to depoly the flip-pac without even leaving the truck would be a game changer. You'd have to get out for the support struts, but still...

Awesome work!

JasonRedwood
07-02-2012, 05:11 PM
Jason,

Absolutely stoked for you man, Looks great and and it looks like it's gonna be heaping handfuls of fun. Been telling an "internet challenged" friend of mine about your project as he too is an early 4Runner enthusiast and the envy is certainly there. I reckon that lots of folks will see your setup as "the ideal" for early 4Runner camping/wheeling arrangements. I know that I do and can barely wait to see the next set of photos from you.

Thanks Palehorse-
Everything so far has been a learning experience but I wouldn't have changed the project for anything.


Congrats on finishing! Looks real good.

When I get back stateside I'm gonna try to hit mine hard and heavy.

Lets get a mini 4runner/flip-pac camping trip going up near you.



Love it!

My imagination is running wild with all the cool stuff you could do with an interior build. Having latches you could work from the inside to allow you to depoly the flip-pac without even leaving the truck would be a game changer. You'd have to get out for the support struts, but still...

Awesome work!

Thanks Trump. I like that idea of opening from the inside!

austintaco
07-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Congratulations! Very awesome build.

trackhead
07-02-2012, 06:48 PM
Excellent job. Should be a fun rig!

ab1985
07-02-2012, 06:56 PM
Awesome! Not sure if you mentioned this before, but was the roll bar removed?

Excellent build. So jealous.:Wow1::drool:

JasonRedwood
07-02-2012, 07:47 PM
Awesome! Not sure if you mentioned this before, but was the roll bar removed?

Yeah the roll bar is removed. I may make an internal roll bar from the 4 corners of the bed to utilize the cargo, not sure.
I dont haul passengers in the back so its not a huge concern for me right now.

upndown
07-03-2012, 01:13 AM
You've created your very own classic!! Good job young sir :smiley_drive:

suntinez
07-03-2012, 01:19 AM
May I just say .... AWESOME!! I love it :wings:

JasonRedwood
07-03-2012, 05:18 PM
Thanks guys!
Can't wait to put the suspension, headers, and exhaust on. And decide on what kind of lockers to put. Im leaning towards the Spartan lockers front and rear. Seems the price, simplicity, and reliability cant be beat. I would love to hear any opinions on that. The Spartans run between $250-$350 and I can install them myself.

ab1985
07-03-2012, 06:01 PM
I would love to hear any opinions on that.
There is certainly no shortage of opinions on this subject. As is often the case, you are the only one who knows what's best for you.

That being said, I'll share my experience with auto lockers. In my 4 cyl Tacoma I had a Lockright in the front and a Powertrax No-slip in the rear. Both are full time auto lockers - the Lockright being almost identical to the spartan. My only reservation would be driving on snow/ice. Beyond that it was, IMO, an acceptable tradeoff between convenience and price (both equipment and installation). The end result performance-wise is the same (minus the ease of turning if you go with the auto lockers). I will say the auto lockers are known to bind up and "pop" when taking sharp turns. I paid a little extra for the No-slip so I wouldn't have to deal with this. It can be a little scary the first time, but people seem to get used to it. I wasn't sure I would so I went the other route.

I would run this setup on my 4Runner in a heartbeat. I can't justify paying more for ARB's than I did for the truck.:snorkel:

JasonRedwood
07-03-2012, 06:57 PM
I would run this setup on my 4Runner in a heartbeat. I can't justify paying more for ARB's than I did for the truck.:snorkel:
Yeah there's always that aspect of the build. Cost of vehicle to the cost of parts going into it. HA

Thanks for the input ab1985. From some of the reviews I read on yotatech the turning/popping noise was minimal with the Spartans. The only issues I found with them is that on occasion, splines or pins would give out. But those issues were occurring with people runnning 35" tires or bigger. Most admitted to stepping on it hard to when it happened.

The biggest tire size I ever see myself running is 33", that is way down the road. 31's seem like a happy balance for LA traffic and camping.

InvisibleOne
07-04-2012, 01:07 AM
Very Nice. Impressed with your tenacity... and driving an hour and a half to work on your rig. You're dedicated, I'll give you that. Especially after an evening of grinding fiberglass.... Itch much on the ride home?

JasonRedwood
07-04-2012, 05:55 AM
Very Nice. Impressed with your tenacity... and driving an hour and a half to work on your rig. You're dedicated, I'll give you that. Especially after an evening of grinding fiberglass.... Itch much on the ride home?

I was well protected most of the time but there were definetly a few itchy evenings.
Here's to a patient wife!:beer:

SLO_F-250
07-04-2012, 08:23 PM
Saw your post on the pop-up camper forum. Great build! Nice work!

ETAV8R
07-09-2012, 10:33 AM
Well done.
You've put a lot of hard work into this and it will repay you down the road. Can't wait to see some trip reports after you begin to enjoy camping with the flippac.

JasonRedwood
07-11-2012, 07:06 PM
Headed up to the southern Sequoias this last weekend to our families property.
The camper stayed attached with out any issues. HA
Tapping up the back window with painters tape worked to keep dust out.
Still need to figure out a permanent solution.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/7550996854_d86c8919e0.jpg
My step dad's 1973 FJ40
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7550996762_79b822ed92.jpg
Didn't get any pictures of my mom's 05 4runner or my buddy's 02 tacoma but it was an all Yota camping weekend.
It was nice up at the property, I believe at 6500 feet. Down at the Kern River it was in the 100's
Soon as I stepped outa the water I was dry.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7268/7550996478_d263d77e70.jpg

ab1985
07-13-2012, 04:45 AM
We need more pics of the flip-pac!:sombrero:

Do you feel like the zuk mod will be sufficient for the extra load or are you exploring other options for the rear suspension? I'm interested to see what you do with the suspension and interior...:drool:

JasonRedwood
07-13-2012, 05:41 AM
We need more pics of the flip-pac!:sombrero:

Do you feel like the zuk mod will be sufficient for the extra load or are you exploring other options for the rear suspension? I'm interested to see what you do with the suspension and interior...:drool:

I know I know. I want to move onto more projects with the flip-pac but i have neglected things around the house. And the ol' Lady needs some attention too! HA
I might get time to finish up the front supports this weekend...

The 14" 100lb springs in the rear seem just about perfect for a temporary fix. I have some blazeland long travel going in the front and I plan on doing a 63" chevy spring in the back. Not sure if the coils will stay or not. Cant wait for the suspension and lockers so I can take it on some decent trips.:wings:

tanglefoot
07-13-2012, 04:38 PM
This is the first I've heard of the Spartan locker but I've had a Lock Right in the back for about 10 years so far with no issues. It seems that the mind automatically adjusts to it and you usually forget it's there. I've got the heavier 85-140 gear oil in that diff and I very rarely hear anything from it.

The main difference I've found while driving is the tendency to get bucking while rounding a corner and getting back on the power. It only seems to happen with the clutch out. Using the clutch never seems to make it buck. Pushing in the clutch immediately stops the bucking when it does occur. You also do get a little side-sway when shifting on the highway. The locker's never been any kind of an issue on snow or ice though. I chose it for the reasons you mentioned--low initial cost and the ability to self-install. I've had no regrets.

I decided to leave the front differential open. That way it can still steer tight corners in 4wd without needing to unlock a hub. I also don't want to put the Birfields (or CVs in your case, I believe they are) under any more stress than necessary. Front lockers really increase the probability of over-stressing and breaking the weaker front drive line components, especially if the front tires are turned to the side. I've found it to be plenty capable with the rear locker. In my case, if it doesn't make it with the open front diff, I probably don't want to be on it anyway. :ylsmoke:

I may have to dig into that ZUK mod someday--that sounds mighty resourceful and interesting.

JasonRedwood
07-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Thanks for the input Tangle.
Heres some more info on the Zuk mod.
http://www.gearinstalls.com/coilphilbert.htm
If you dig around Zuk's website you will see that there are tons of variations of it.

ab1985
07-14-2012, 04:17 PM
I have All-pro springs on my 4Runner, and with the rear storage, tire carrier, and a gear it squats a bit. I have considered the zuk mod as a fix. I'll be interested to see how the chevies do on yours with the weight of the flip-pac and gear.

JasonRedwood
07-26-2012, 03:47 AM
SO it has been a few weeks since the flip-pac was mounted to the 4runner. Ever since then I have been noticing the smell of outgassing. The smell, today, is less than the day it was mounted but still there. My wife and friends don't notice it. From what I have read on line is that it may go away and it may not. Also the smell may go away but the fumes can still linger with out odor. Anyone have any experience with outgassing of epoxy resin/fiberglass. My thoughts, that I'm dreading, are to dissect it apart and look for possible uncured areas.#$%!:yikes:

lx450landcruiser
07-26-2012, 06:29 PM
I dont have a ton of glass experience but you could try closing all the windows and running a heater inside for awhile to build up the temp and see if it will speed up and fully cure all the areas?

JasonRedwood
07-27-2012, 12:11 AM
I dont have a ton of glass experience but you could try closing all the windows and running a heater inside for awhile to build up the temp and see if it will speed up and fully cure all the areas?

hmmm might be worth a shot. I did have it in the high desert a few weeks ago with the windows up for 2 days. Outside temp was around 105 mid day. I have some jack stands on the way, Im going to perform surgery I think.

Obi..
07-27-2012, 04:55 AM
Throw a glass bowl with vinegar in it inside for a day or two.

See if the smell persists.

JasonRedwood
07-27-2012, 05:59 AM
Throw a glass bowl with vinegar in it inside for a day or two.

See if the smell persists.

Just wondering if what the experience you have with vinegar and outgassing? Has this worked for you in the past?

deadbeat son
07-27-2012, 04:56 PM
Just wondering if what the experience you have with vinegar and outgassing? Has this worked for you in the past?

My wife and I purchased a new TempurPedic mattress for our home last spring. The mattress outgassed pretty seriously for the first week or so. I found the vinegar tip online as a recommended solution, so I gave it a try. It seemed to absorb some of the odor. It may or may not work for you, but it's cheap enough to try.

JasonRedwood
07-27-2012, 06:08 PM
My wife and I purchased a new TempurPedic mattress for our home last spring. The mattress outgassed pretty seriously for the first week or so. I found the vinegar tip online as a recommended solution, so I gave it a try. It seemed to absorb some of the odor. It may or may not work for you, but it's cheap enough to try.

Thanks! I'll give it a shot. I like the avatar by the way!

JasonRedwood
08-07-2012, 08:18 PM
Cutting back into the the camper this weekend to get rid of the outgassing materials. Next weekend is the suspension upfront and hopefully in the rear.

deadbeat son
08-08-2012, 01:56 AM
Thanks! I'll give it a shot. I like the avatar by the way!

Thanks! Been a fan for over a decade.


Cutting back into the the camper this weekend to get rid of the outgassing materials. Next weekend is the suspension upfront and hopefully in the rear.

I take it the vinegar trick didn't work?

JasonRedwood
08-08-2012, 05:07 AM
I take it the vinegar trick didn't work?

No I was really hoping it would but no luck. Just masked the fumes for a bit. I have a small amount fiberglass filler sandwiched between the cured walls that just isn't going to set. Learning lesson. HA.

AxleIke
08-08-2012, 10:04 PM
What about drilling holes into the areas that are wet still, and then going back and filling them later?

JasonRedwood
08-08-2012, 10:26 PM
What about drilling holes into the areas that are wet still, and then going back and filling them later?

Thought about that and decide against it for a few reasons. I feel like I have spent so much time on this project due to trial and error that I just want to remove any possible chance of out gassing in the future.:snorkel: I also feel like the filler that I had mixed with the wrong ratio will not ever set. There is a small area that I filled on the outside that is relatively thin, which has not changed one bit. I will feel more comfortable in the end knowing I removed all the questionable filler.

AxleIke
08-09-2012, 11:31 PM
Thought about that and decide against it for a few reasons. I feel like I have spent so much time on this project due to trial and error that I just want to remove any possible chance of out gassing in the future.:snorkel: I also feel like the filler that I had mixed with the wrong ratio will not ever set. There is a small area that I filled on the outside that is relatively thin, which has not changed one bit. I will feel more comfortable in the end knowing I removed all the questionable filler.

Completely understandable. I'd do it that way myself. Good luck!

JasonRedwood
08-13-2012, 08:12 PM
This project may be a wash. :( Spent this last weekend grinding and cutting back into the fiberglass on the driver side leaving the L brackets in place that held the 4runner rim to the camper. The off gassing stench was super noticeable even after almost all the questionable fiberglass filler was removed. I'm going to throw one more weekend at it. The next session will involve a more fine tooth removal and cleaning, along with a smell test. HA. My hope is that after removal and washing the area there wont be any more stench and I will feel comfortable with glassing it again. I was just thinking this last weekend, when covered in sweat and fiberglass, that I really could have got some great camping in using the ground and a tent.:) So as of right now its a toss up on things. I hate giving up on projects and it would be a sad story but on the other hand I need to go see some epic wilderness. I'll know more after I give it one more go. Anyways, just venting a little.

austintaco
08-13-2012, 10:53 PM
Everyone on portal knows how hard you have worked on this project. I know you can resolve this. There is a solution.
Take a break, pack up your gear and take a quick road trip detour. If your girl doesn't have a car, rent one for the weekend and go enjoy yourselves.
You have come too far to give up.

JasonRedwood
08-14-2012, 12:26 AM
Thanks Austin. Going to pick up another hardtop right now actually. Give the flip-pac a lil breather. Long travel IFS this weekend so that will a nice step forward. :beer:

thebrassnuckles
08-14-2012, 02:04 AM
Don't give up man. I'm about to start kicking off on mine, as soon as the weather cools off a bit. 108 is no fun to work in while covered from head to toe to prevent fiberglassitis.

JasonRedwood
08-14-2012, 06:09 AM
Yeah I know I know. Ha.
Speaking of heat, this last weekend was a scorcher in LA. Not as bad as out there in Bakersfield. The heat combined with grinding and cutting that fiberglass was a bummer in its self.

thebrassnuckles
08-14-2012, 02:23 PM
I bet. I was in HB last weekend. No way am I gonna do honey-do's in the 109 degree temps. Haha.

ab1985
10-15-2012, 01:44 AM
Update? You've come too far to stop!:victory:

JasonRedwood
10-15-2012, 04:47 PM
Update? You've come too far to stop!:victory:

Haha I know. The camper has been at a friends house in storage. I plan on bringing it home this week to continue working on it. I have to say that I really love the way the 4runner rides with out it though! That extra 200lbs and height really makes a big difference.

thebrassnuckles
10-19-2012, 02:57 PM
Haha I know. The camper has been at a friends house in storage. I plan on bringing it home this week to continue working on it. I have to say that I really love the way the 4runner rides with out it though! That extra 200lbs and height really makes a big difference.

I think mine Rides pretty rough without the topper. But then again the back half is completely stripped, spare tire removed. So there's not much weight back there. With the topper it's real niiiice.

ab1985
10-19-2012, 04:55 PM
It's a shame I've never had the top off of mine. One of these days...

JasonRedwood
10-19-2012, 08:12 PM
Definitely a stiffer ride with out the top on, stock or flip-pac. Like anything with older cars, you get used to it. HA. I love the way the 4runner takes bumps with the flip-pac and the zuk coils in the rear. It just is a leaner with the flip-pac and blazeland suspension on the IFS. Handles amazingly with the stock top on.

JasonRedwood
02-28-2013, 05:41 AM
Sooooooo I have been tossing around the idea to sell this unfinished project. Just the Flip-pac part, for now. I had some issues with the resin/fiberglass filler not ever setting up in the areas on the sides. It was off gassing so I sanded all the bondo and fiberglass off the driver side. I then cut out and dug out all the filler. Thats as far as I had got before I decided that I wanted to spend more of my free time camping along with other activities. The camper has been sitting in my driveway for a few months now. The ol' lady and I have been talking about a having a kid in the near future and the 1st gen 4runner might also have to go. Not the safest choice for transporting a new born. Anyways, I'm not set on giving up on this project quite yet but if some one here on the forum is some what local and is interested I would be into handing it off for decent price. You can pm me or send a email to me via jayredwood(at)gmail.com. Email is the best way to get a hold of me.
I can send pictures to help clarify anything as well.

Thanks

Ruined Adventures
03-02-2013, 05:50 AM
Say it ain't so Jason!

The ol' lady and I have been talking about a having a kid in the near future and the 1st gen 4runner might also have to go. Not the safest choice for transporting a new born.
If you only knew...over the past 12 months I've seen some very interesting choices for transporting newborns. In regards to safety, a 1st gen 4Runner is like a Volvo down here!

Just promise not to judge us when we have a kiddo (or two) and drag them across the globe in a 1G 4R :sombrero:

JasonRedwood
03-02-2013, 06:10 AM
Say it ain't so Jason!

If you only knew...over the past 12 months I've seen some very interesting choices for transporting newborns. In regards to safety, a 1st gen 4Runner is like a Volvo down here!

Just promise not to judge us when we have a kiddo (or two) and drag them across the globe in a 1G 4R :sombrero:

I would never judge. :)
I have been thinking about having a friend fab up a good spot for a kid to sit in the rear. My other dilema is the 2 dogs and then the rest of the gear...
We will see.

Ruined Adventures
03-02-2013, 11:26 PM
I have been thinking about having a friend fab up a good spot for a kid to sit in the rear. My other dilema is the 2 dogs and then the rest of the gear...
We will see.
Haha, us too! We have THREE dogs and we've pretty much decided to never leave on a trip without em again.

Solution: Just bring less stuff!

ab1985
03-03-2013, 03:56 AM
I just reread this entire thread. Good times. While I want to see you finish the flip pac, I also understand the need to move on. Hopefully your project finds its way into the hands of another enthusiast who decides to document their progress here on the portal.

JasonRedwood
03-09-2013, 02:55 AM
I would love to see this project finished but I got my eye on a 200 4runner that will be more practical for the future, but still fun.
Heres a link to the 4runner ad. If anyone is interested in buying the whole package I am willing to work out a stellar deal.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/97553-1989-1st-gen-4runner-V6-3-0-5spd-4x4-LOS-ANGELES-ca-4500?p=1297442#post1297442

JasonRedwood
03-11-2013, 03:51 PM
If anyone is interested.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/97863-1st-Generation-4runner-X-Flip-pac-project-for-sale-L-A-CA?p=1298980#post1298980

deadbeat son
03-13-2013, 02:27 AM
I'm sorry to see this go, but I understand. Hopefully someone picks it up and completes the project. GLWS!

JasonRedwood
03-22-2013, 07:37 AM
Not sure if it was the thought of adding an auto loan onto my enormous student loan debt, or showing potential buyers the 4runner, but I'm gona hold onto her. Finishing her up will be the right thing to do. Sorry to be so back and forth. Ha

ab1985
03-22-2013, 12:11 PM
:victory:

zidaro
03-23-2013, 02:41 PM
:victory:

second that

Toyotero
03-23-2013, 04:07 PM
:victory:
second that

Thrice!

I'm glad that you are keeping it, what other vehicle could you get for so little $ and be the envy of your peers :-)

Keep the photos coming and we'll keep sending encouragement to keep you motivated. :ylsmoke:

JasonRedwood
05-28-2013, 06:04 PM
Sorry to disappoint once again but gota sell this project.
The runner is $3800 and the flip-pac project is $1200 obo
There's a link in the classified section for the truck.
Flip-pac link to come shortly.
Package deal for $5000...
Email me jayredwood(at)gmail.com if interested

JasonRedwood
06-02-2013, 12:36 AM
Selling a never used rain fly for a flip-pac camper shell. I never used it or even took it out of the bag it came in. Charcoal color and extra windows. See attached order confirmation for full details. I paid $410 shipped to my house.
Selling for $350 local pick up or let's say $360 shipped to the lower 48 states. OBO
Pm will work but an email to me will work quicker.
Jayredwood(at)gmail.com
Selling it because I am selling my 4runner and flip-pac project.
SOLD

JasonRedwood
06-15-2013, 07:21 PM
I'll need to get rid of this project by October and would rather not drive it out to or families property for storage.
Any one interested should shoot me an offer. :)

IVrunner
10-29-2013, 07:36 AM
so who bought this thing?...the build must continue!

I wish I would have noticed when it was for sale!

JasonRedwood
10-29-2013, 05:08 PM
so who bought this thing?...the build must continue!

I wish I would have noticed when it was for sale!

I wish it continued as well. A San Diego guy bought the 4runner for his son. Another guy bought the Flip-pac for his tacoma. He was planning to convert it back to a regular camper. Sad days. ha