View Full Version : Expeditions 7: Two Years Around the World on all Seven Continents.
Scott Brady
04-26-2012, 09:55 PM
In Progress Updates:
http://www.expeditionportal.com/images/stories/articles/staff/e7_na_expo_1.jpg
The team has just arrived at the Arctic Ocean north of Deadhorse, Alaska, receiving special permission to drive the VDJ78 Land Cruiser to the shore of Prudhoe Bay. This marks the beginning of our two-year journey around the world. We will post frequent updates in this thread and in eight feature articles for Overland Journal, starting with the Summer 2012 issue. We are so grateful for the support of our team members and families for the eight months of hard work that has led to this day.
Onward!
http://www.expeditionportal.com/images/stories/e7_na_expo_6.jpg
Scott Brady
04-26-2012, 09:58 PM
Thanks to Mike (trailsurfer) and Ray (Hyland) for helping me get the trucks to Deadhorse these past weeks.
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Thanks Mike!
SRUPike
04-26-2012, 10:18 PM
Can't wait to read and see the adventures!
trailsurfer
04-26-2012, 10:39 PM
Thanks to Mike (trailsurfer) and Ray (Hyland) for helping me get the trucks to Deadhorse these past weeks.
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Thanks Mike!
Thanks for the Invite! The Arctic was Incredible.
LateNate
04-26-2012, 10:49 PM
You guys are getting to do what I didn't finish. Good luck! :drool::lurk:
SEETHEWORLD349
04-26-2012, 10:50 PM
Great news and best luck
you are living my dream
stay safe but not too much:)
udoxx
04-26-2012, 11:11 PM
Did I read that right? You will be gone for 2 years?
trailsurfer
04-27-2012, 01:54 AM
My highlight from the trip.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/6971286540_a7409e9672.jpg ("[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/6971286540/)
Ronct110
04-27-2012, 02:32 AM
Subscribed
Recce01
04-27-2012, 03:03 AM
This is going to be awesome! Subscribed!
VanGo
04-27-2012, 03:25 AM
Subscribed!
PMA4x4
04-27-2012, 01:14 PM
Subscribed. This looks like it will be a quite an adventure!
forsakenfuture
04-27-2012, 01:43 PM
Been looking forward to following along. If Toyota offered something like that here in thestates I may of become a Yota guy. :)
Scott C
04-27-2012, 01:47 PM
Was the 70 backed into the water on purpose for pictures? Either way looks like a good time.
toymaster
04-27-2012, 01:50 PM
^^^ I'm sure. I think they have a thing for land's end as I do. Last time I was that for north I was on man-made island (drilling rig). Drove in on an ice road and was helo'd out during break-up some months later.
Cummins
04-27-2012, 02:24 PM
will you guys be coming threw Grande Prairie alberta? if so what date do you figure?
i find the lack of a darien gap shot depressing. i mean... if you dont shoot the gap.... its like retiring from a lifetime of mountain climbing, without everest. sometimes.... ya gotta do what ya should!
charlieaarons
04-27-2012, 04:16 PM
Was the 70 backed into the water on purpose for pictures? Either way looks like a good time.
That picture wasn't taken at the Arctic coast. You can barely see the mountains from Deadhorse, and only on a clear day.
Charlie
Scott C
04-27-2012, 04:31 PM
I was just referring to the vehicle being in the water. You know like when a guy pulls one tire up on a curb or rock and then snaps a picture. Not that important as they are living the dream as dorks like me sit around and type about it!
trailsurfer
04-27-2012, 09:19 PM
The BP folks let them go through the "gate" to the Arctic Ocean. They only let 3 people go through to the "Ocean", so I don't know where that photo was exactly taken. I am sure Scott will chime in and lets us know where specifically that picture was taken.
1leglance
04-28-2012, 12:13 AM
So am I gonna have to be the one that says....." What only 3 pics so far?"....way more posted to facebook :)
Oh and who is with Scott in the Snowman pic? Come'on give us some info?
Also I assume this isn't a continuous 2 yrs of travel but that you will be coming home from time to time? 2 yrs is a long time to be away from the wife & the biz.
nwoods
04-28-2012, 01:11 AM
So am I gonna have to be the one that says....." What only 3 pics so far?"....way more posted to facebook :)
Oh and who is with Scott in the Snowman pic? Come'on give us some info?
Also I assume this isn't a continuous 2 yrs of travel but that you will be coming home from time to time? 2 yrs is a long time to be away from the wife & the biz.
That first pic is a little alarming! Please post more on here, instead of behind closed doors on Facebook. Share your adventure will all of us! And yeah, 2 years continuously? Holy cow!
trailsurfer
04-28-2012, 04:31 AM
You wanted pics from the Arctic Circle/Expeditions 7, here you go. I am not the greatest photographer, hope you enjoy.
Early on in the Brooks Range
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8159/7120334713_273f08fc99.jpg ("[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/7120334713/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/6974252402_a7c3391292.jpg ("[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/6974252402/)
Coming up Atigun Pass
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/6974241910_22ce4ec4cb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/6974241910/)
Yours truly with Scott and our friendly Musk-Ox
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7117/7120337955_33166ccf1e.jpg ("[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/7120337955/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/6974248986_cfdeebdbaa.jpg ("[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/43682982@N05/6974248986/)
Scott Brady
04-28-2012, 04:46 AM
Did I read that right? You will be gone for 2 years?
Yes, the trip ends January 2014. For this year, I will be traveling from now on, and home for less than a month total. 2013 allows for longer time in Arizona. So much of a schedule like this is dictated by the seasons of the year, and in both the northern and southern hemispheres.
Scott Brady
04-28-2012, 04:49 AM
will you guys be coming threw Grande Prairie alberta? if so what date do you figure?
Sorry - we took the cassier. We are in Prince George tonight
Scott Brady
04-28-2012, 05:11 AM
Oh and who is with Scott in the Snowman pic? Come'on give us some info?
Also I assume this isn't a continuous 2 yrs of travel but that you will be coming home from time to time? 2 yrs is a long time to be away from the wife & the biz.
It is Greg Miller, a friend of mine that loves Cruisers (he is creating the Land Cruiser Heritage Museum at the Miller Motorsports Park) and adventure travel. He is my partner in E7 and the team's lead driver.
It is nearly continuous travel, although 2013 will allow a few short stints back in Prescott. Stephanie will be joining me for many of the segments. Ray Hyland, the COO will be manning the ship in my absence.
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It is nearly continuous travel, although 2013 will allow a few short stints back in Prescott. Stephanie will be joining me for many of the segments. Ray Hyland, the COO will be manning the ship in my absence.
Because life's to short to be wasting any time. Good on you bud! Have a ball and be safe.
Ray Hyland
04-28-2012, 07:24 AM
The BP folks let them go through the "gate" to the Arctic Ocean. They only let 3 people go through to the "Ocean", so I don't know where that photo was exactly taken. I am sure Scott will chime in and lets us know where specifically that picture was taken.
We took that shot on a frozen lake somewhere between Skagway and Whitehorse.
Cummins
04-28-2012, 02:09 PM
Your defiantly on the nicer side of the rockies over there. Have a great trip hope fully some day in the not too too distant future our paths with cross.
SEETHEWORLD349
04-28-2012, 05:27 PM
can we get some pics of the interiors
where are u guys sleeping???
jimbosan72
04-29-2012, 08:16 AM
Good luck!!!! Looking forward to reading future posts
haven
04-29-2012, 03:46 PM
Looks like information about the trip is scattered around several sites, none of which is complete or up to date. That's unfortunate, as many ExPo readers would like to follow the trip more closely than the quarterly updates planned for Overland Journal.
The official Expeditions 7 web site was last updated April 12. It doesn't look like the web site admins have any plans to show the team's progress or current location.
http://expeditions7.com/
The Expedition Portal front page has one update. Comments here require a Facebook login, for reasons that are unclear.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/adventures/83-in-progress-overland-journey/1038-expeditions-7-arrival-at-the-arctic-ocean.html
Expedition Portal has a Facebook page, and there are photos here that don't appear elsewhere. Access requires a Facebook account.
http://www.facebook.com/ExpeditionPortal
The Expedition Portal forums has the thread you're reading.
Profitts Cruisers has four pages of blog entries describing the trip from the lower 48 to the official starting point of the Expeditions 7 tour.
http://www.proffittscruisers.com/land-cruiser-off-road-blog/staging-for-alaska-expeditions-7.html
Sporadic Twitter posts (aka tweets) from the Expeditions 7 team can be found here
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/expeditions7
I found a placeholder page on Facebook, but no current info there.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Expeditions-7/176385039108179
I'm sure there are more places around the Web where more information can be found about Expeditions 7. Post up if you find one.
Ray Hyland
04-29-2012, 07:37 PM
The challenge is that the team is still on the road. Web and cell access is sporadic. We have been posting when we can, with whatever device we have handy. We have a lot of members who follow us on Facebook and Twitter, and those sites are easy to post to from a phone, so a lot of pics have been going there when we only have a few minutes to post.
The best images are being captured in the in-truck storage systems, and at the end of each stage we will aggregate all the imagery from the various sources, as well as the in-truck storage of images, and post them into this thread.
So while information may not hit this thread as fast as some other places (we will try to correct that), this thread will have the most comprehensive coverage.
Cheers
Ray
Michael Slade
04-30-2012, 02:37 AM
Holy crap, can't you guys be a little patient with the team? I mean hell, if all they did was update the website from their expedition they wouldn't be actually DOING any 'expeditioning'. Updating a website, editing images, generating text, this all takes TIME...of which there is precious little to be had at the end of a long day on the road.
If you absolutely have to be as up-to-date as you possibly can, get a Facebook account and quit'cher'bitchin'.
Ray Hyland
04-30-2012, 04:52 AM
Here we go. Basic iphone pics for now. Better shots when the trucks are back.
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The mass of batteries that need to be charged each night. This is in a camp/hotel in Prudhoe. On the camping nights this happens from the truck's power.
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The new Canon C300s we are filming with. Beautiful cameras to work with.
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Departing from the Dock at Haines Alaska
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Downtown Skagway. What a cool town.
Ray Hyland
04-30-2012, 06:03 AM
A few more from the phone.
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Scott on the Manley Road (Yes, it is called that).
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The trucks at the Arctic Circle
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Bridge over the Yukon River
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Riverboat pulled up on the shore for the winter
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The view from the bridge
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Ray and Scott by a frozen river near Manley
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Truck by the river
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View driving down the Manley Road
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Ray on the road
p1michaud
04-30-2012, 11:57 AM
Well done with the updates so far and thanks for sharing. Two years is a long time when you are sitting at home reading about the future adventure on your screen but behind the wheel that time will go by fast. I've got two questions:
1-Any more info on the vehicles besides what was posted on the Proffit's blog: "For the expedition, the team has selected two VDJ78 V8 turbo-diesel Toyota Land Cruisers because of their legendary toughness and reliability. These trucks are a ‘best of breed’ for overland expeditions,” said Greg Miller, the team’s lead driver." Edit: Read about the vehicles on your website (http://expeditions7.com) :sombrero:
2-What year do you plan on landing in Australia (2012 or 2013)? The Canning Stock Route is on my wish list so you may have another cruiser join the trek!
Cheers,
P
ginericLC
04-30-2012, 12:24 PM
Or maybe there is an intentional delay so people don't know exactly where they are at every given moment? It might not be a huge risk where they are at now, but eventually they will be in spots where they probably won't want everyone to know exactly where they are.
discotdi
04-30-2012, 02:23 PM
Can you guys shed some light on the costs involved? I assume sponsors are footing the bill? The purchase and outfitting of the vehicles would probably blow most people's budget. Did Toyota donate the vehicles? Do you have a map of the route? sorry if I missed that somewhere. Where do you outline the special equipment added to the vehicles? Looking forward to the updates.
gfiero
04-30-2012, 05:33 PM
Suscribed!
haven
04-30-2012, 09:14 PM
Thanks, Ray. I agree that the best update system is simple and quick, so the team isn't distracted from other tasks. I think Twitter is ideal. That Delorme gadget (the Delorme InReach) lets one post to Twitter via satelite if out of cell phone range. The important thing from my perspective is to identify one place to go for the latest info. If that's this thread on ExPo, so much the better.
haven
04-30-2012, 09:24 PM
DiscoTDI, the Expeditions 7 web site has a map of the planned route. http://expeditions7.com/route/
I expect that the vehicle preparations will be revealed in detail in Overland Journal articles. We'll probably get some info on the day to day expenses while on the road. I doubt we'll hear much about funding or sponsorship, or deals for books or video production from the trip.
Equipt
04-30-2012, 09:33 PM
Fantastic! I am really looking forward to following your adventures. Thanks for showing us the world.
Cheers,
Ryanmb21
04-30-2012, 09:43 PM
Looking forward to reading about the adventure, :rally_guys:
MattScott
04-30-2012, 11:50 PM
A little bird snuck me this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZFSAoqEEY&list=UUv8r-RJLjr6zNVtM2xxGR-g&feature=plcp
uzj100
05-01-2012, 12:18 AM
Where / how can we purchase expedition7 gear, t-shirts, hats and stickers? Want to show some support for one of the coolest expedition trips ever.
Ray Hyland
05-01-2012, 12:50 AM
Where / how can we purchase expedition7 gear, t-shirts, hats and stickers? Want to show some support for one of the coolest expedition trips ever.
We are working on some cool shirts. When they are ready we will post them up here.
Cheers
LateNate
05-01-2012, 04:12 AM
I saw on the video that you guys will be shooting East across the US from Moab. Any chance you will be heading through Missouri. The Ozarks is a beautiful place to visit!
stevegsmith
05-01-2012, 05:20 AM
Cool.
WheresMurph
05-02-2012, 05:08 AM
Have a really fantastic trip, best of luck, and safe travels wherever you may be.
Sergio Castro F
05-03-2012, 03:49 AM
Congratulations for such an adventorous and long trip, for sure it will be fantastic, but I have some questions, why an VDJ-78 ? It s a LHD and use an engine used only in Australia and New Zealand. According to your map Namibia and Australia uses LHD vehicles, rest of the trip is RHD. The V8 D4D as I mentioned before is sold only in certains countries where the diesel fuel has good quality. Why you didn t choose the RHD HZJ 78. On the other hand, there´s a lot of territory in South America and Africa that is not in your plans for a two years trip.
Have a nice and regarding trip.....
haven
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Sergio,
The vehicles chosen are built to New Zealand standards. So they do have the driver's position on the right side.
I agree that the team's route leaves off much of South America and Africa. I think the Silk Road routes deserved more consideration, too. But there's only so much you can do in 2 years.
Scott Brady
05-03-2012, 07:25 PM
RHD or LHD has proven to be irrelevant from a driving perspective - well, unless you spend a lot of time in drive throughs. I drive a RHD nearly every day. Our J8 is RHD, the LJ78 is RHD, as are the VDJ78s. However, there are a few countries that do not permit entry of RHD, none of which are on our route. We do field the question of "why the VDJ78?" The easy answer is the motor - I cannot overstate what a pleasure it is to drive.
We are covering a nice chunk of Africa - the stuff we want to see.
The current plan is to drive the trucks back up the Panamerican in South America after completing the route to Ushuaia.
Scott Brady
05-03-2012, 09:10 PM
We did some testing and playing around with the 78s in Utah. Heavy trucks for sure, but it was impressive what we could get through, even at nearly 8,000 lbs.
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Without question, these truck need the cross-axle diff locks. The Jeep J8, with only a rear LSD would own these trucks on the trail. I would give the performance edge to the VDJ78 over a 110 (they are not available from the factory with cross-axle diff locks) It is an interesting comparison.
I am really starting to love these trucks, especially the sleeping configuration. I can literally crawl in the back and be asleep in 5 min.
discotdi
05-03-2012, 09:51 PM
I think the 110 with centre diff lock, ETC, and the fantastic anti stall technology would make up for the lack of cross axle diff lock. :snorkel:
Sergio Castro F
05-04-2012, 12:42 AM
I´m totally agree with you about the irrelevant from driving RHD or LHD, when you drive in trails,open spaces or interstates, but to drive in a narrow road with a lot of trucks, people, carts and animals is quite a challenging and sometimes a dangerous drive, and even more if the road is in mountain ranges and you need to pass any of the before mentioned things, not to mention the drive throughs. About the motor you are right, nothing sounds better than a V8, only hope you have good luck whith those high sulfur fuels of the third world.
RHD or LHD has proven to be irrelevant from a driving perspective - well, unless you spend a lot of time in drive throughs. I drive a RHD nearly every day. Our J8 is RHD, the LJ78 is RHD, as are the VDJ78s. However, there are a few countries that do not permit entry of RHD, none of which are on our route. We do field the question of "why the VDJ78?" The easy answer is the motor - I cannot overstate what a pleasure it is to drive.
We are covering a nice chunk of Africa - the stuff we want to see.
The current plan is to drive the trucks back up the Panamerican in South America after completing the route to Ushuaia.
nwoods
05-04-2012, 03:26 AM
Sweet Video, thanks for posting that Matt!
2wheelbob
05-04-2012, 04:27 AM
Scott,
Thanks for gracing my 100 series Land Cruiser with your presence yesterday. It was an honor to meet you and spend time talking about travels. Wishing you the best on your trip.
Bob and Amy (and Iris and Daisy dawgs)
Mlachica
05-04-2012, 04:37 AM
Wow, I look forward to the stories and media. Say hi to our friends in Maputo, Mozambique. And be sure to check out Kruger national park - it is amazing!
Nightkrawler
05-04-2012, 07:32 AM
:coffeedrink:
subscribed
:drool:
rblackwell
05-04-2012, 05:40 PM
It does not.
I owned a Defender 110 in Australia for a number of years.
If you lift a wheel (an easy thing to do on rocky shelf terrain) that end of the vehicle looses all power.
A cross axle locker ensures power to the still grounded wheel.
Scott C
05-04-2012, 07:23 PM
I know its already been asked, are these 70's donated, purchased, or still Toyota property. Its a bit personal of a question, so no problem if you don't answer. Just a little curious.
forsakenfuture
05-04-2012, 08:44 PM
I thought these toyotas had locking differentials. Learn something new every day.
Dgurley2000
05-04-2012, 09:13 PM
Will you guys be collecting data, testing equipment, etc. during this trip or is it mostly focused on sight-seeing and cultural interaction? Is this the first time someone has embarked on this sort of Expedition and are you setting some sort-of record? Are the Miller kids in school? Will they be home schooled or tutored during the Expedition? How many guys are sleeping inside each Land Cruiser? Do you guys know each other well? Any plans for a National Geographic article? Looks like fun.
manvscode
05-04-2012, 09:19 PM
Amazing!
Scott Brady
05-04-2012, 09:46 PM
I thought these toyotas had locking differentials. Learn something new every day.
They do - E-lockers front and rear
Scott Brady
05-04-2012, 09:48 PM
Scott,
Wishing you the best on your trip.
Bob and Amy (and Iris and Daisy dawgs)
Thank you Bob. It was a sincere pleasure to meet you and your wife. Super cool 100 series you have there!
Scott Brady
05-04-2012, 09:52 PM
I know its already been asked, are these 70's donated, purchased, or still Toyota property. Its a bit personal of a question, so no problem if you don't answer. Just a little curious.
We purchased the vehicles at retail in New Zealand. Toyota has been very supportive, but E7 bought the 70s.
Dgurley2000
05-04-2012, 09:55 PM
We purchased the vehicles at retail in New Zealand. Toyota has been very supportive, but E7 bought the 70s.
Where are the vehicles registered? Any issues getting insured in the USA?
Where are the vehicles registered? Any issues getting insured in the USA?
Scott has stated previously that the vehicles are registered in New Zealand.
Scott Brady
05-04-2012, 10:15 PM
Will you guys be collecting data, testing equipment, etc. during this trip or is it mostly focused on sight-seeing and cultural interaction? Is this the first time someone has embarked on this sort of Expedition and are you setting some sort-of record? Are the Miller kids in school? Will they be home schooled or tutored during the Expedition? How many guys are sleeping inside each Land Cruiser? Do you guys know each other well? Any plans for a National Geographic article? Looks like fun.
We are collecting volumes of data, but the intent of the trip is adventure travel (sight-seeing and cultural experiences) and content generation for ExPo, Overland Journal and a TV production.
Greg is an incredible father and one of the best drivers I have encountered. His kids will be involved with as many segments as time allows, but they attend school full-time.
The full-time team members are Greg, the TV crew and me.
We are considering adding another full-time driver and a third vehicle. Others come in and out as time and conditions allow. For example, Ray Hyland participated in the first leg, as did Mike (TrailSurfer), a Proffitt's Cruisers customer and members of the Proffitt's team. The next segment has a portal member coming along and some other folks. My wife will come on several legs. In the really remote stuff, it is just the core team.
Each Land Cruiser sleeps two. We are looking at adding a third Land Cruiser to better accommodate the TV crew.
We all know each other well (I have known Greg for several years). This is not a guided trip, so we all have to work together and pull on the same rope. All of the entities involved are heavily invested in the outcome.
Each segment of the trip will be featured in Overland Journal.
Many images and more of the technical details and vehicle builds will be featured here on ExPo. We will ultimately make all documentation, testing results, routes, lessons learned, safety plans, packing lists, vehicle specifications, etc. available to the members here on ExPo. For example, our master planning document is over 100 pages.
We are excited to have the trip under way :D
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Man, if you guys need contacts when you hit sub-Saharan Africa, give me a call. I can especially get you anything and anywhere in Uganda.
Project510
05-04-2012, 10:37 PM
Fantastic trip guys! Cant wait to see all the updates and videos!
Dgurley2000
05-05-2012, 01:26 AM
Scott has stated previously that the vehicles are registered in New Zealand.
Hmm, purchased in New Zealand does not necessarily mean registered in New Zealand.......
Christian P.
05-05-2012, 02:31 AM
Hmm, purchased in New Zealand does not necessarily mean registered in New Zealand.......
I believe they were special ordered directly from the factory in Japan through a dealer in New Zealand - and registered there.
Billhilly
05-05-2012, 10:26 AM
They have New Zealand number plates...
forsakenfuture
05-05-2012, 06:32 PM
They do - E-lockers front and rear
Ah! Misread the first post.
haven
05-05-2012, 06:57 PM
Looks like Expeditions 7 has reached Moab. This photo is from Friday evening, by Matt Scott
http://expeditionportal.com/mscott/Users/mattscott/may/adventures/cruisemoab/prescotttomoab9.jpg (http://expeditionportal.com/mscott/Users/mattscott/may/adventures/cruisemoab/prescotttomoab9.jpg)
1leglance
05-06-2012, 06:06 AM
While I think is it super cool that you guys are doing this trip I am gonna have to say that the staged pic of the rig in the water is what is all wrong about having the "media" along for 4wd travel.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/images/stories/articles/staff/e7_na_expo_1.jpg
A legit water crossing is one thing, that is part of the trail.
Backing a rig into water just to get a poser shot is the kind of stuff that folks who want to shut down access can use against us.
Scott you have been at the forefront of making overlanding mainstream, please don't let things get away from you.
Landroverholic
05-06-2012, 09:12 AM
Congratulations. You guys are on the road and the wheels are turning.That must feel good after what, I'm sure, has been a monumental planning session. Sure the planning is fun - but being on the road is a whole lot better:)
I've planned to do exactly 1/7th of what you guys are doing - and I know just how much work has gone into preparing for for a trip across the worlds largest landmass. And then do multiply that by 7 !!!! My mind boggles at the thought.......... plan a route overseas, organise shipping, get the permits and insurance, organise the funds ,build the vehicle, pack the spares ,get the vaccinations ,put the waypoints in the GPS ,organise cover for your day job ,learn a new language ,organise the web site ,kiss your loved ones goodbye , feed the cat and hit the road. For 2 years......and then find the time while settling into long term life on the road to post your photos and tell everybody where you are - phew!!!
Scott and your crew - hats off for pulling this one off. I think its awesome what you are setting out to achieve.
Good luck and I hope it goes smoothly. And when it goes slightly belly up I hope you can laugh about it the next day :wings:
And if we do cross paths while I'm stuck in a bog in Siberia I'll trade you some frozen fish for a good coffee.
Beer will be in the fridge at Abenteuer and Allrad if time permits
Best wishes
Callum and Michele
Bad Karma
05-06-2012, 11:10 AM
While I think is it super cool that you guys are doing this trip I am gonna have to say that the staged pic of the rig in the water is what is all wrong about having the "media" along for 4wd travel.
A legit water crossing is one thing, that is part of the trail.
Backing a rig into water just to get a poser shot is the kind of stuff that folks who want to shut down access can use against us.
Its the Arctic Ocean... having the wheels in the Ocean symbolize the start of the trip. Its like people who do cross country trips, wheels in Pacific to wheels in Atlantic.
Sean VHA #60013
05-06-2012, 12:11 PM
This undertaking is awsome, can't wait to read regular blog entries & thread postings! Also, don't sweat the arctic ocean shot - it is symbolic of the start of the journey and that works for me:coffeedrink:
Sirocco
05-06-2012, 01:11 PM
When do you think you will be in Siberia Scott? We leave the UK January next year. Should be coming out of Mongolia around the end of July and into Siberia through August and September.
We then ship to Aus to! maybe see you guys out on the road.
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grahamfitter
05-06-2012, 02:33 PM
Beun Camino, all. I'm rather jealous!
1leglance
05-06-2012, 03:15 PM
That picture wasn't taken at the Arctic coast. You can barely see the mountains from Deadhorse, and only on a clear day.
Charlie
The BP folks let them go through the "gate" to the Arctic Ocean. They only let 3 people go through to the "Ocean", so I don't know where that photo was exactly taken. I am sure Scott will chime in and lets us know where specifically that picture was taken.
As referenced the pic was staged and so the rig was backed into water on purpose it looks like. Just saying it is something that could be used against our community.
There will be plenty of real water crossings for these guys and an amazing amount of adventure I am sure, all of which is legit and has a need. Just don't want to see them caught up in the silly Dangerous Drives "we could die" drama that was in Utah. TV crews can have that effect....not to mention what can happen in post production :)
Have a great trip and looking forward to hearing more at the Overland Expo. Will the rigs be on display there?
Scott Brady
05-06-2012, 03:43 PM
As referenced the pic was staged and so the rig was backed into water on purpose it looks like. Just saying it is something that could be used against our community.
Have a great trip and looking forward to hearing more at the Overland Expo. Will the rigs be on display there?
Lance,
People drive on frozen lakes every day in Alaska and Canada (and just about anywhere else lakes freeze). It is not only completely legal, but actually fun. :)
What makes you think it was staged? Again, people drive on frozen lakes everywhere and I didn't say that picture was of the ocean. It is just a shot from the trip. Anyone with even limited familiarity of the North Slope would know this
What makes you think a fun picture of a truck parked on a frozen lake would be bad for the community? People do it all the time, even racing on frozen lakes. In Canada, people even commute on frozen lakes and rivers- you should take a trip there sometime, it is pretty fun to see. This is in Colorado ! http://pangaea-expeditions.com/ice-racing/
Both trucks and a support vehicle will be at OVEX
cruiseroutfit
05-06-2012, 04:04 PM
Subscribed!
:cool:
(smokey)
05-06-2012, 09:55 PM
Just passed you guys going the other way in Teole UT area. Sounds like a great trip.
hks3sgte
05-06-2012, 11:57 PM
$$$
1leglance
05-07-2012, 04:49 AM
I remember well your first Arctic Trip Scot with Chris & Pasquale and on that trip you drove on a frozen river & over the ocean as it was a ROAD.
This pic clearly looks like you backed into thin ice and broke through to get a cool look....again it is the difference between a real, self financed, life changing adventure that we have in our trip report section and a TV crew tag along sponsor funded story generator.
I think we need trips like yours to create the mag articles, tv shows and interest level that will bring more people into the US overland community.....it just should be done in a way that doesn't create images that can be used against us.
I am not trying to pee in your Post Toasties...just saying maybe we need a way to separate the trip reports from the folks to are joe normal & the pro's
Oh and as far as going up North myself....hahahaha not in those conditions :) This one legged adventurer doesn't do cold! That is why I just got back from a week in Baja instead.
Good to hear you & the rigs will be at the Overland Expo but wow what a fast blast back that must have been....shame to not have a chance to enjoy everything in between. I hope on the rest of your journey you will be able to slow down and enjoy the travel.
Scott Brady
05-07-2012, 08:19 PM
So, to get back to the fun adventure side of this thread. . .
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_1.jpg
Some serious hardware in the arctic. Most of the equipment avoids the road we traveled in on, and most of the work is done in winter
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_2.jpg
Attempting to get to a campsite on the north side of the Brooks Range, we found out just how well an 8,000 lb. Land Cruiser does in the snow. Ray got stuck, then I got stuck. Airing down to about 18 psi really helped, but they still sunk fast :D
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_3.jpg
Ray, unrolling the spanky new recovery strap
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_4.jpg
Good and stuck - all part of the fun (no snow was damaged in the making of this photo)
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_5.jpg
The Dalton is easy to drive on - even a quality AWD SUV would be fine. It is a good thing it is easy though, as the beautiful scenery is so distracting :D
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_6.jpg
Caribou - good eat'in
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_7.jpg
Ray, clearly not having fun
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_8.jpg
Mike, enjoying his first trip to the Arctic Circle (bet he will be back on a BMW. . .)
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_9.jpg
Ray, looking casual, as I think he was born above the Arctic Circle
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_10.jpg
My first time seeing a Musk Ox
http://www.overlandjournal.com/overlanding/expedition_portal/E7_Images/ExPo_Set_11.jpg
The TV crew - clearly nefarious. . .
The first segment was a fun and beautiful drive. The trip to Deadhorse can be done by just about any vehicle in the summer and by something with AWD in the winter. If you want to venture off the Dalton, then a more serious vehicle is required. I really like traveling in the winter on these trips. With the right gear, it is quite comfortable, but you do not have the bugs to contend with. Mosquitos can really damper a trip here. I also like that the winter keeps most tourists away, and we encountered more adventurous souls, like teams preparing for manhauling sledge expeditions, dog sled teams, hunters, etc. Being tourists ourselves, it is nice to have the place mostly to ourselves.
The trucks performed well in these conditions, and the diesel glycol heaters made it oh so toasty inside. We only had a few minor issues come up, nothing that slowed the trip down. We are excited for the Cape Spear segment.
Ryanmb21
05-07-2012, 09:07 PM
^^^ Great photos!
1leglance
05-07-2012, 09:31 PM
Now we are getting to some meaty post, thanks Scott.
Good to see the rigs getting a workout in the snow and interesting tidbit on the 8k wgt...is that with 2 people, fuel and all or a dry wgt?
I understand your reasons for winter travel & if I could handle the cold it seems like an amazing place from your pics.
Keep the updates coming.
Landroverholic
05-07-2012, 10:23 PM
Great photos. Thankyou.
I remember reading an article years ago about a guy driving the Dalton solo in winter. It looked like an awesome trip and you guys have just backed that up.
Weight is always an issue. I sometimes think we can travel so lightweight on motorbike trips yet end up with the proverbial kitchen sink in a 4 wheel drive - but then its nice to be comfortable too. An eternal dilemma.
Now where did I put that map of Alaska - and when will they build a bridge across the Bering Strait ;-)
Good luck
Callum
little mule
05-08-2012, 01:27 AM
I live in Tooele! What an exciting way to get our town on the map. Best of luck, and looking forward to reading all about it in OJ.
Scott Brady
05-08-2012, 04:44 AM
When do you think you will be in Siberia Scott? We leave the UK January next year. Should be coming out of Mongolia around the end of July and into Siberia through August and September.
We then ship to Aus to! maybe see you guys out on the road.
G
We will be in Siberia in early fall of this year.
forsakenfuture
05-08-2012, 08:16 PM
Saw on the ARB video that these Toyotas come with a two piece snorkels. Is the one that you guys using one piece or two piece? If the two, are you concerned about it at all?
p1michaud
05-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Scott,
Any ETA for Australia and the Canning Stock Route (i.e. 2012 or 2013)?
Cheers,
P
Scott Brady
05-08-2012, 08:55 PM
Saw on the ARB video that these Toyotas come with a two piece snorkels. Is the one that you guys using one piece or two piece? If the two, are you concerned about it at all?
They are the factory two-piece units. We sealed them up and could stall the motor by sealing the intake on top. They should work well.
Scott Brady
05-08-2012, 08:55 PM
Scott,
Any ETA for Australia and the Canning Stock Route (i.e. 2012 or 2013)?
Cheers,
P
We will be in AU early November and probably stay through January.
grecy
05-08-2012, 10:26 PM
Scott,
If you have not already passed through on your way south, let me know when you'll be in Whitehorse again.
It would be awesome to catch up for a beer, and I can show you some cool stuff around here.
You're extremely welcome for a hot shower, though I don't have enough couch space for you all.
It would be awesome to share a campsite for a night or two. (I'll be at Liard Hot Spring the weekend of May 12/13)...
I saw the two trucks on your way North but didn't know about your expedition, so didn't wander over and say hello.
(I gave you guys a honk and thumbs up from my rusty white Subaru, and you all looked pretty quizzical)
-Dan
FlyJester
05-09-2012, 01:31 AM
It was great to meet up with you Scott and the rest of the E7 crew down in the San Rafael Swell/CM '12. Have a fun, safe trip. Subscribed.
Here are a few pics(nothing fancy) of you guys I took on Devils Race Track/Eva Conover while I brought up the rear as the tail-gunner for the run.
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oryxexpeditions
05-09-2012, 02:50 AM
I think the 110 with centre diff lock, ETC, and the fantastic anti stall technology would make up for the lack of cross axle diff lock. :snorkel:
Yes. From the Moab pics, the Toyota is lifting a wheel a lot in pretty moderate terrain, even with coils in the front. Maybe it's the rear leafs partly too. The Land Rover suspension is way better with a similar payload. As Scott said, the Land Cruiser would be toast without the diff locks. Just how bad a 78 can be without them was shown in the Congo expedition where it didn't take much of a hole to have to stop and break out the shovels. With diff locks, the Rover would walk all over it. Because of the suspension design weakness, these trucks clearly need differential locks front and rear to be effective. An off road test versus the Defender 110 in South Africa showed this well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMhOhT5nwZk
Why are these trucks four tons?
David
discotdi
05-09-2012, 02:51 AM
It does not.
I owned a Defender 110 in Australia for a number of years.
If you lift a wheel (an easy thing to do on rocky shelf terrain) that end of the vehicle looses all power.
A cross axle locker ensures power to the still grounded wheel.
I know that's why I said with electronic traction control, centre diff lock, and anti stall technology. If the Defender has ETC then if you lift a wheel the ETC will send power to the wheel with grip. Proper driving skills and use of ETC acts nearly as good as axle diff locks. And it has other advantages, like easier to steer and kicks in when needed. It won't do the super hard stuff quite as well as locking diffs though, I know. I think it would be a real toss up for sure.
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 04:58 AM
I saw the two trucks on your way North but didn't know about your expedition, so didn't wander over and say hello.
(I gave you guys a honk and thumbs up from my rusty white Subaru, and you all looked pretty quizzical)
-Dan
How cool is that - sorry we missed you. This was more of a shakedown run, so the schedule was tight.
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 05:01 AM
Why are these trucks four tons?
David
They are nearly three tons from the factory. Add bumpers, people, gear and water, and you are at four. We are still under GVWR - HD trucks for sure
Landroverholic
05-09-2012, 05:41 AM
Are you sharing gear between both trucks or do you have both set up to be completely independent of each other?
On your build thread and by the looks of your photos your COG must be really low and from the outside the trucks almost look empty.
Have you actually afforded yourself any concessions towards luxury or have you pared things down to a minimum in the interests of reducing vehicle stress?
Cal
p1michaud
05-09-2012, 08:20 AM
We will be in AU early November and probably stay through January.
You and the vehicles will be up for a challenge with the Canning Stock Route at that time of year. Average temps for those months: 100 Deg F (38 Deg C) and highest rainfall time of year 1.5 to 6 in (37 to 150 mm, highest during January).\
Should be a challenging route!
Out of interest, have you sorted out a fuel drop yet?
Cheers,
P
WheresMurph
05-09-2012, 09:06 AM
Really liked the Alaska pics, Ray looked so totally relaxed up there.
Keep up the great report and hope you have interesting but safe passage.........subscribed.
Murph.
grimbo
05-09-2012, 11:39 AM
You and the vehicles will be up for a challenge with the Canning Stock Route at that time of year. Average temps for those months: 100 Deg F (38 Deg C) and highest rainfall time of year 1.5 to 6 in (37 to 150 mm, highest during January).\
Should be a challenging route!
Out of interest, have you sorted out a fuel drop yet?
Cheers,
P
That was my first thoughts as well, yikes it will be exceptionally hot and potentially wet in the northern reaches.
Every Miles A Memory
05-09-2012, 12:10 PM
It would be a safe bet to say the route across Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois will be some of the boring-est driving of the trip :smiley_drive:
Dgurley2000
05-09-2012, 01:14 PM
It would be a safe bet to say the route across Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois will be some of the boring-est driving of the trip :smiley_drive:
There are definitely some Expedition-Worthy activities - just have to know where to look :) Here's a good resource:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/location/
Here a sampling of each state mentioned:
Largest Ball of Stamps in Nebraska:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11487
Future Birthplace of James T. Kirk in Iowa:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2081
Superman's Hometown in Illinois:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2090
oryxexpeditions
05-09-2012, 01:22 PM
They are nearly three tons from the factory. Add bumpers, people, gear and water, and you are at four. We are still under GVWR - HD trucks for sure
Made to take a beating daily and last a long, long time. . . You're going to need a few years with a good chiropractor when you return from around the world on that suspension though. . .
Every Miles A Memory
05-09-2012, 02:18 PM
Largest ball of stamps......LMAO!! I can see an entire article written up about this in the Journal :coffee:
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 02:39 PM
There are definitely some Expedition-Worthy activities - just have to know where to look :) Here's a good resource:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/location/
That is an awesome link!
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 02:43 PM
You and the vehicles will be up for a challenge with the Canning Stock Route at that time of year. Average temps for those months: 100 Deg F (38 Deg C) and highest rainfall time of year 1.5 to 6 in (37 to 150 mm, highest during January).\
It all really depends on how quickly we can get the trucks to Darwin from Vladivostok. Our current schedule has us shipping at the end of September, so we could conceivably run the stock route in late October, which would be far more ideal, weather-wise. After running the Canning Stock, we turn south and drive to Melbourne, which is pleasant that time of year. I will probably spend Dec. (and my 40th birthday) on Tasmania.
howell_jd
05-09-2012, 03:16 PM
I look forward to the forthcoming articles in Overland Journal. They will definitely be a source of great wanderlust during my "beach" trip...well it will be hot and sandy and "attitude dictates altitude" sometimes. Enjoy the ride! Best wishes for safe journeys and plentiful exciting moments, E7!
Jonathan
Containerized
05-09-2012, 04:31 PM
I second jham's remark - reach out if you need help in East Africa. Can help you in with contacts Kenya, TZ, Ethiopia, or here in Uganda.
Containerized
05-09-2012, 04:37 PM
Scott, go to Mona when you're in Hobart (Tasmania). I went in pretty skeptical, but the architecture alone (the whole structure is underground) is an engineering masterpiece I think you'd appreciate. The restaurant there is excellent, as well - and, coincidentally, where I celebrated my birthday this year.
grimbo
05-09-2012, 09:06 PM
Will have to keep an eye out for you when you hit Melbourne again.
Are you going to go through the Victorian High Country while there?
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 10:03 PM
I second jham's remark - reach out if you need help in East Africa. Can help you in with contacts Kenya, TZ, Ethiopia, or here in Uganda.
Thank you, much appreciated. We are bringing the trucks into Kenya from Melbourne, AU. I suspect sometime around March or April.
I do want to visit Ethiopia, but probably on the next trip (on a moto). I am looking to do the Middle East to Egypt and down to Kenya on a moto in late 2014 or early 2015.
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 10:06 PM
Will have to keep an eye out for you when you hit Melbourne again.
Are you going to go through the Victorian High Country while there?
We are currently leaning towards the Canning Stock, then the Great Barrier Reef (on a sailboat for my 40th) and then down to Melbourne. I plan to have the trucks serviced there and a few replacement items installed (like tires). I will leave the VDJ78s in Melbourne and take a GU Patrol down to Tasmania.
Landroverholic
05-09-2012, 10:33 PM
If you give us a call when you get to Tasmania I'll be happy to show you some of the more remote areas on 'the road less travelled'.
I have had a few people suggest that it won't be a good idea to be in Vladivostok in September due to the APEC summit taking place. I have even been told by my shipping contact that ships will not be allowed to enter the port while the conference is on. We aim to try to have the Landrover in a container and all paperwork done as early in September as possible. Otherwise we might have to stay a month longer than planned in Russia by which time winter should be happening.
Difficult to know how it will all work out until we get there I guess.
Are you driving the Road of Bones in both directions and taking in the summer and winter routes or are you shipping from Magadan to Vladivostok. I looked at that but could not find anything reliable via the internet.
Happy travels
Callum
Scott Brady
05-09-2012, 11:11 PM
I have had a few people suggest that it won't be a good idea to be in Vladivostok in September due to the APEC summit taking place.
This is interesting. We are planning to arrive in Magadan at the end of September where part of the crew will leave and a few drivers and a translator will continue on to Vlad. Given the summit situation, we might just ship out of Magadan. We also have a little wiggle-room on moving the Road of Bones schedule up.
I have a few solid contacts on the ground in Vlad, so I will ping them for some feedback.
Landroverholic
05-10-2012, 02:01 AM
Scott
If you can find reliable shipping out of Magadan to Melbourne I would be greatful if you could PM me with details as I have come up blank in my searches.
Will keep you posted on the Vlad situation as I find out more.
Cheers
Callum
Scott Brady
05-10-2012, 04:06 AM
Scott
If you can find reliable shipping out of Magadan to Melbourne I would be greatful if you could PM me with details as I have come up blank in my searches.
Will keep you posted on the Vlad situation as I find out more.
So far, any route to AU requires a ship transfer, primarily in Vlad, but also in South Korea. We are dialing options and pricing now. We might also have half a 40' to fill ;)
p1michaud
05-10-2012, 10:27 AM
It all really depends on how quickly we can get the trucks to Darwin from Vladivostok. Our current schedule has us shipping at the end of September, so we could conceivably run the stock route in late October, which would be far more ideal, weather-wise. After running the Canning Stock, we turn south and drive to Melbourne, which is pleasant that time of year. I will probably spend Dec. (and my 40th birthday) on Tasmania.
Very good, I'll keep an eye on this thread to monitor progress. I'm hoping to have lots of spare time on my hands by November... Tasmania would be nice as well. Get there soon to see the 4WD tracks and remote areas soon, there has been significant pressure to close off tracks and wilderness areas to 4WD's in recent times.
Safe travels.
boozewz
05-10-2012, 04:53 PM
Subscribed!
Do let us know if you plan to come through Saudi on one of your legs.
Cheers
wngrog
05-10-2012, 06:22 PM
Awesome adventure.
TACODOC
05-12-2012, 04:51 PM
:lurk:
SEETHEWORLD349
05-12-2012, 06:56 PM
can we get some pics of the interiors
where are u guys sleeping???
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1leglance
05-12-2012, 07:18 PM
I agree on the "in use" pics....the build article was very interesting and kudos to Adventure Trailers for the hard work.
For me though the real value is seeing the rigs in regular camp life after things get settled in..how the sleeping area gets laid out, cooking, storage and such after life on the road teaches it's lessons.
The shots of the rig & areas around it are really cool but for those of use who want to learn some lessons it is good to get more detail of how things function.
forsakenfuture
05-18-2012, 07:36 PM
Any updates?
toddz69
05-18-2012, 07:49 PM
Just looked at the two trucks a few minutes ago at the Expo. Very nice!
Todd Z.
skybluebumpers
05-20-2012, 06:22 PM
I am freaking jealous of the trip and adventures you will experience. Thank you for keeping us posted and allowing a few of us "desk jockeys" to travel along with you
MattScott
05-21-2012, 04:46 PM
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Leaving for engineer pass
MattScott
05-21-2012, 04:47 PM
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Breakfast this morning! Not like there are any interesting vehicles here or anything....
MattScott
05-21-2012, 05:50 PM
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MattScott
05-21-2012, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkbwSGTTjSA
It would seem a truck has been added to the Expeditions 7 fleet of vehicles. Are there any details on this.
Christian P.
05-21-2012, 06:51 PM
It would seem a truck has been added to the Expeditions 7 fleet of vehicles. Are there any details on this.
Yes a HZJ79 has been added to help carrying all the required equipments.
oryxexpeditions
05-21-2012, 09:51 PM
Yes a HZJ79 has been added to help carrying all the required equipments.
What kind of equipment?
Beowulf
05-21-2012, 09:53 PM
Is this "equipment" mostly the butts of media personnel and their respective gear? Or, did the original team actually need more gear than they expected?
Christian P.
05-22-2012, 05:25 AM
Is this "equipment" mostly the butts of media personnel and their respective gear? Or, did the original team actually need more gear than they expected?
My understanding is that after the "shakedown" trip to Alaska, they added more photo/video equipment.
I have seen some of the teaser footage and the quality is phenomenal.
The Russian segment also requires to carry an extra translator.
Christian P.
05-22-2012, 05:27 AM
Some of the Overland International (Expo/OJ) and E7 team members at Expo.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/images/stories/articles/CP/l1090849.jpg
:)
boozewz
05-22-2012, 09:02 AM
Fantastic
Is the HZJ79 also NZ sourced and RHD?
cruiseroutfit
05-22-2012, 05:56 PM
The push across the midwest.... Matt S. at the wheel of the 79 and some miles to go yet. :cool:
Christian P.
05-22-2012, 06:03 PM
Fantastic
Is the HZJ79 also NZ sourced and RHD?
Nope - it's LHD, 1HZ and came from Proffitt's Cruiser (www.proffittscruisers.com).
Scott Brady
05-22-2012, 09:01 PM
What kind of equipment?
We consolidated all of the image/HDV equipment to the 79 and added a second video shooter / driver to the team.
1leglance
05-23-2012, 01:34 AM
Where do the video shooter/driver sleep?
I think it would be really cool & helpful to see some "everyday life/camp" stills that show how everyone camps/cooks/sleeps/hygiene and such using the 3 vehicles.
So many of the media trips spend all the time on the rigs in motion or someone talking and very little gets shown of camp life, cooking, unpacking/packing each day, sleeping setup and all that. The real meat & potatoes stuff :)
MattScott
05-23-2012, 01:49 AM
Where do the video shooter/driver sleep?
I think it would be really cool & helpful to see some "everyday life/camp" stills that show how everyone camps/cooks/sleeps/hygiene and such using the 3 vehicles.
So many of the media trips spend all the time on the rigs in motion or someone talking and very little gets shown of camp life, cooking, unpacking/packing each day, sleeping setup and all that. The real meat & potatoes stuff :)
Oh Lance, you and your ideas - I'll put something together while I'm on the road.
TangoBlue
05-23-2012, 02:46 AM
Where do the video shooter/driver sleep?
I think it would be really cool & helpful to see some "everyday life/camp" stills that show how everyone camps/cooks/sleeps/hygiene and such using the 3 vehicles.
So many of the media trips spend all the time on the rigs in motion or someone talking and very little gets shown of camp life, cooking, unpacking/packing each day, sleeping setup and all that. The real meat & potatoes stuff :)
That is a great idea! That would make it all the more real instead of just "gee whiz" glamour shots.
TACODOC
05-23-2012, 02:49 AM
That is a great idea! That would make it all the more real instead of just "gee whiz" glamour shots.
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LaOutbackTrail
05-23-2012, 02:51 AM
I'll venture out on a limb and say.... X3.
I know the meat and taters part will likely show up on other venues (OJ, videos, etc) but we'd like to see some of it here too, guys!
TACODOC
05-23-2012, 02:54 AM
I want pics of Scott at 6 am during morning routine before coffee :elkgrin:
TangoBlue
05-23-2012, 03:12 AM
I want pics of Scott at 6 am during morning routine before coffee :elkgrin:
You mean before he's combed his hair?
Christian P.
05-23-2012, 04:31 AM
Make sure to check the Expo home page for more...
http://www.expeditionportal.com/adventures/83-in-progress-overland-journey/1107-expeditions-7-colorado.html
You mean before he's combed his hair?
Now that's funny.
anthonycds
05-23-2012, 09:38 AM
i.am.subscribed.
I hope to catch you guys when you reach Chicagoland. Thank you for the outstanding reports and photos!
Tony
MattScott
05-23-2012, 08:12 PM
i.am.subscribed.
I hope to catch you guys when you reach Chicagoland. Thank you for the outstanding reports and photos!
Tony
We blew through Illinois last night, sorry man!
nwoods
05-23-2012, 10:00 PM
I'm a little confused about the timing of things. Can you post up dates within your articles of when you are wherever you are? I saw one vehicle (in the photos) at the Overland Expo, but it appears that the team was driving on east at the same time. Its just a little hard to plot out the progress in my head.
Edit: just read this:
It's been an interesting last two days to say the least, since starting our adventure at Overland Expo, we've driven nearly halfway across the country with only minimal delay no serious issues....
I think I get it now.
1leglance
05-23-2012, 11:33 PM
I really hope you guys get a chance to slow down and really see things...
The time from Alaska to Moab to the Overland Expo and now to the East Coast is painfully short and really looks breakneck.
It almost seems counter overlanding culture as the ability to slow down and see remote backcountry areas is why most of us build our rigs and travel.
At least you got to get into a little dirt in Colorado but 16hr days after that would suck.
I am looking forward to updates and further adventures.
TACODOC
05-23-2012, 11:42 PM
:lurk:
Landroverholic
05-23-2012, 11:53 PM
Can I ask what your plans are for refilling propane/butane gas tanks in Russia/Mongolia?
Do you just plan to try and refill your existing tanks or replace them as you go splicing the hose to fit to the stove? Risky I know but still possible.
Thanks for the photos and updates.
I fly to the UK from Australia next week to pick up my Landy and if I had half a brain I could have gone 'the other way round' and made it to the Overland Expo. Doh!
Callum
Dgurley2000
05-24-2012, 12:04 AM
I really hope you guys get a chance to slow down and really see things...
The time from Alaska to Moab to the Overland Expo and now to the East Coast is painfully short and really looks breakneck.
It almost seems counter overlanding culture as the ability to slow down and see remote backcountry areas is why most of us build our rigs and travel.
At least you got to get into a little dirt in Colorado but 16hr days after that would suck.
I am looking forward to updates and further adventures.
And I bet they're even sleeping in hotels! :)
EDIT: Any maybe even bed and breakfasts :gasp:
1leglance
05-24-2012, 12:08 AM
Hey some of the best trip reports on Advrider have guys staying in great little hotels/hostels in Central & South America...small towns with family run operations are way cool.
I am just amazing at how fast they are moving around North America and I hope they get to slow down at some point and enjoy the journey.
HumphreyBear
05-24-2012, 12:09 AM
I fly to the UK from Australia next week to pick up my Landy
Good luck and smooth travels, Callum. Dead jealous. I look forward to reading your adventures, do you have a blog or are you going to post here? (if you are documenting it). Between you and Shane/The Rover Shop you guys are going to make for inspiring Aussies in Rovers reading. And coupled with Expeditions 7 our cup runneth over with world travelling.
Excellent.
Humphrey
anthonycds
05-24-2012, 02:08 AM
We blew through Illinois last night, sorry man!
WTH? You guys are flyin'! I must've read your fb entry wrong as the dates you posted are probably on your way back to AZ?
I was going to see about getting some local Expo'ers together and greet you guys.
AFSOC
05-24-2012, 03:43 AM
I am just amazing at how fast they are moving around North America and I hope they get to slow down at some point and enjoy the journey.
X2 At this sprinters pace, the title of the thread would more appropriately be, Expeditions 7: Two Months Around the World on all Seven Continents. :hehe:
Relax guys there's more to experience on planet earth than just a series of photo ops...yes, even in North America. I'm afraid you'll end up missing the subtleties and experiences of travel that make RTW journeys epic, life changing achievements. You've invested lots of resources and hours, planning and outfitting and have given yourselves two years to finish. Don't just get caught up in collecting destinations and passport stamps. Please consider throttling back the pace enough to collect the enriching experiences that will avail themselves.
Have a great time, I look forward to following you all along the way. :clapsmile
Ryanmb21
05-24-2012, 05:50 AM
^^ ease up fellas. These dudes are more than capable of planning their own trip.
haven
05-24-2012, 06:14 AM
Matt said something somewhere about needing to make a date in Chicago [wrong, it was Detroit]...maybe an airplane reservation? Hence the Sea to Shining Sea Trophy Dash.
HumphreyBear
05-24-2012, 12:11 PM
I'd also assume they've done most of the roads they'll be covering in the US: filmed 'em, driven 'em and blogged/written about 'em, and where the culture is, well, what you all know already, so the haste will be to hit a couple of early deadlines (ExPo etc.) and get outta the US where the adventure travel aspects of the journey really begin...(?)
boozewz
05-24-2012, 01:37 PM
I'd also assume they've done most of the roads they'll be covering in the US: filmed 'em, driven 'em and blogged/written about 'em, and where the culture is, well, what you all know already, so the haste will be to hit a couple of early deadlines (ExPo etc.) and get outta the US where the adventure travel aspects of the journey really begin...(?)
Hear hear....
MattScott
05-24-2012, 02:13 PM
WTH? You guys are flyin'! I must've read your fb entry wrong as the dates you posted are probably on your way back to AZ?
I was going to see about getting some local Expo'ers together and greet you guys.
I'll be in Chicago June 1-3rd, in between flying from Cape Spear to Prescott, let's get some guys together!
Christian P.
05-24-2012, 04:16 PM
It is my understanding that the run to Alaska was not initially planned - hence the fast track back and forth. Overland Expo being in the middle also made the schedule tighter but the team really wanted to attend with the trucks.
I believe the pace will slow down once they reach Iceland.
Scott Brady
05-24-2012, 05:56 PM
I really hope you guys get a chance to slow down and really see things...
Lance,
This is the second time you have commented about our pace. What is the longest trip you have done, both in miles and time?
Why does it matter how fast or far we drive per day in our own country. We are just transiting the trucks to the east coast to meet the container ship.
We are traveling in North America, our home continent, so there is less motivation to dwell and go slow. We have a very mellow pace planned for the other continents. I am spending months in France alone. . .
Maybe stop with the Monday morning quarterbacking until you see the trip unfold a bit?
Thanks
Scott Brady
05-24-2012, 06:00 PM
I'd also assume they've done most of the roads they'll be covering in the US: filmed 'em, driven 'em and blogged/written about 'em, and where the culture is, well, what you all know already, so the haste will be to hit a couple of early deadlines (ExPo etc.) and get outta the US where the adventure travel aspects of the journey really begin...(?)
Exactly!
It is a two year trip. We are just having some fun and doing a few shake-down runs in North America.
LaOutbackTrail
05-24-2012, 07:26 PM
Long day in the saddle Mr. Brady?
Scott Brady
05-24-2012, 07:36 PM
We left Detroit this morning after a fantastic day in Motor City. This included a great meal at Pizza Biga with Camilo Pardo and a few other industry folks. It is good to see the general optimism with the Ford and Jeep teams - GM, not so much.
After dinner, we toured Camilo's studio in downtown Detroit. What an amazing place and incredible artist. Camillo also produced a stunning painting of the E7 trucks about a month ago.
102045
grahamfitter
05-24-2012, 07:51 PM
We are just transiting the trucks to the east coast to meet the container ship.
Hi Scott,
Are there any special logistics involved in shipping vehicles from Canada to Iceland? Curious minds (both mine) want to know...
(For years my mind has been mulling over this: Ride the Trans-Labrador highway, ship the bike from St. John's, meet it sometime later in Iceland and ride around for a while, ferry the bike to Europe and stash it in the UK for a subsequent trip starting from there sometime later. Other than shipping costs, the only downside seems to be the allure of buying a bike in Europe that isn't available here!)
Thanks in advance!
Scott Brady
05-24-2012, 08:01 PM
A little more information on Camilo the artist and car designer: Camilo Pardo (http://www.camilopardo.com/)
This painting was beautiful, and in progress
102046
For a moment, the thought of driving around the world in a Ford GT seemed intriguing. Note the matching color theme to E7 ;)
102047
It is always an inspiration to watch a talented person go about their work. I really enjoyed his artwork.
The studio is also in an early 1900s building and the second floor was essentially untouched from its original form, though totally in decay. It was a ballroom, and you can just imagine the parties that were thrown there in the 1920s - fantastic.
Scott Brady
05-24-2012, 08:09 PM
Hi Scott,
Are there any special logistics involved in shipping vehicles from Canada to Iceland? Curious minds (both mine) want to know...
(For years my mind has been mulling over this: Ride the Trans-Labrador highway, ship the bike from St. John's, meet it sometime later in Iceland and ride around for a while, ferry the bike to Europe and stash it in the UK for a subsequent trip starting from there sometime later. Other than shipping costs, the only downside seems to be the allure of buying a bike in Europe that isn't available here!)
Thanks in advance!
We are working with a logistics company that specializes in shipping vehicles. They have facilities throughout the US and Europe and a helping us with all of the details and bureaucracies. We have shipped vehicles on our own a few times, and it is amazing how much the process and requirements change from country to country.
Shipping to Iceland is quite simple, and there are several lines that service Iceland and Scandinavia from the east coast of the US and Canada. The notable variations with Iceland is the requirement for a Carnet and intense cleaning of the chassis, etc (at a cost of about 600 euro). I like the idea of shipping to Iceland, as you can then take a ferry to Denmark.
Shipping to Iceland is more expensive than shipping to Europe.
Carrier. Eimskip http://eimskip.is/en/Pages/default.aspx
Ferry. Smyrilline http://www.smyrilline.com/Frontpage-1.aspx
We are planning to post all of the details on the shipping, cost, time, etc. at the end of the NA segment.
Scott Brady
05-24-2012, 08:13 PM
We took a tour of the QMC and AEV facilities while in Detroit. Impressive operation.
Look at those hoods!
102048
It makes me hopeful that manufacturing might survive in some way in the US. 95% of the AEV part numbers are made in this country - pretty cool.
Matt will be doing a full feature on the AEV facilities in a future home page article.
crawler#976
05-24-2012, 11:05 PM
Awesome Scott!
What's even more impressive that they aren't a large scale production facility (when compared to the OEM's), and it shows in the quality of the products they produce.
Michael Slade
05-24-2012, 11:50 PM
Camillo's studio = fabulosity. I wanna hang with him a little longer next time.
zeke2.0
05-25-2012, 01:03 PM
We left Detroit this morning after a fantastic day in Motor City. This included a great meal at Pizza Biga with Camilo Pardo and a few other industry folks. It is good to see the general optimism with the Ford and Jeep teams - GM, not so much.
Are you able to elaborate on this?
MattScott
05-25-2012, 01:08 PM
102138
We stopped at AEV.
102139
They have an awesome facility.
102140
It's amazing how easy it looks when something is being done right.
102141
Bruce likes this Jeep, anyone know why?
102142
We were able to have dinner with some fantastic people in Detroit.
102143
There's some cool old buildings to explore in Detroit.
102144
Camilo Pardo's studio is amazing, and literally blew my mind.
102142
The Ford GT was his design.
102146
A lovely waitress at Applebee's in Pennsylvania gave us nicknames.
Bruce is the brains.
Kurt is the handsome comic.
Scott is the bounty hunter.
Jeremiah is the mad scientist.
Greg is the villain.
I was named lover boy.....
102147
The roads in Pennsylvania are beautiful and a welcome change from being transplanted into the desert.
Haggis
05-25-2012, 08:26 PM
What route through PA did you guys take? I'd swear that was Route 6 through the northern tier.
upcruiser
05-25-2012, 08:40 PM
Camillo's studio = fabulosity. I wanna hang with him a little longer next time.
Camillo is a true artist and one of the inspirations found in Detroit's new renaissance. I think we are entering into a new age of desirable American designed, and built products. AEV is a prime example of that. Glad you guys had an opportunity to sample the big D.
p1michaud
05-25-2012, 10:17 PM
Great updates!
Cheers,
P
dugedug
05-26-2012, 01:34 AM
102144
Camilo Pardo's studio is amazing, and literally blew my mind.
102142
The Ford GT was his design.
Some nice work, but he seems kinda young to have designed a car that was raced in the early 60's?
Ray Hyland
05-26-2012, 03:42 AM
Some nice work, but he seems kinda young to have designed a car that was raced in the early 60's?
The Ford GT40 was the car from the 60. The Ford GT is a modern car inspired by the original GT40. Pardo was the Chief designer of the modern Ford GT.
haven
05-26-2012, 04:06 AM
"Bruce likes this Jeep, anyone know why?"
Because it's a more comfortable platform for the camera crew than the old Land Cruiser 79 pickup they're using now?
toddz69
05-26-2012, 04:17 AM
We took a tour of the QMC and AEV facilities while in Detroit. Impressive operation.
It makes me hopeful that manufacturing might survive in some way in the US. 95% of the AEV part numbers are made in this country - pretty cool.
Very impressive. As a manufacturing engineer, I can say that AEV and similar companies are bright lights that give us hope in what appears to be a dim future for manufacturing in the U.S.
Looks like you guys saw some really neat stuff.
Todd Z.
cruiseroutfit
05-26-2012, 06:38 AM
"Bruce likes this Jeep, anyone know why?"
Because it's a more comfortable platform for the camera crew than the old Land Cruiser 79 pickup they're using now?
Think spectacles ;)
The 79 "Sherpa" is a comfortable ride and in fact has a good spread of legroom. AC would be a most welcome addition but the 2-70 AC is doing the job. Long live the Sherpa!
dugedug
05-26-2012, 10:17 PM
The Ford GT40 was the car from the 60. The Ford GT is a modern car inspired by the original GT40. Pardo was the Chief designer of the modern Ford GT.
Your sarcasm meter is broke.
And if you want to get technical, the GT was the name of the original prototype 60s cars. It wasn't until the MkI that they were called GT40s. They had to called it the GT instead of GT40(actually 43") because of trademark problems. The new GT is a bit more than a car inspired by the original. Being nearly identical on the exterior with only having a slight stretch and modernization, hence the sarcasm for calling it 'his' design... but I digress.
Landroverholic
05-27-2012, 03:15 AM
Cleaning the vehicles for Iceland will be good practice for getting them clean for Australia!
Both very unique environments so I am all for strict quarantine laws to protect them even if it is a bit of a PITA at the time!!!
Reckon you guys will go through a lot of toothbrushes getting three truck clean though ;-)
Looks like your 'shake down' trip through the States has been going well. Looking forward to hearing more as you all get further from your home turf.
Are you planning to take any 'toys' to play with as your trip progresses. Mountain bikes, kayaks, climbing gear etc?
Callum
FlyJester
05-28-2012, 11:25 PM
So far so good guys, I would have blasted across the US as well(been there, done that). Say goodbye to North America and hello to the rest of the world for awhile. Should we be calling you guys by your nicknames now?? :)
Ray Hyland
05-29-2012, 06:17 PM
Your sarcasm meter is broke.
And if you want to get technical, the GT was the name of the original prototype 60s cars. It wasn't until the MkI that they were called GT40s. They had to called it the GT instead of GT40(actually 43") because of trademark problems. The new GT is a bit more than a car inspired by the original. Being nearly identical on the exterior with only having a slight stretch and modernization, hence the sarcasm for calling it 'his' design... but I digress.
Got it, that's cool. I honestly don't know a lot about them, just what I have read. But I did see one of the new ones up close and personal when they first came out. What a beautiful car when you are up close to it.
PMA4x4
05-29-2012, 07:59 PM
Question, I know you are running the BFG MT tires but what size is the tire and what width is the wheel?
Thanks and keep up the posts!
oryxexpeditions
05-30-2012, 03:11 AM
Think spectacles ;)
The 79 "Sherpa" is a comfortable ride and in fact has a good spread of legroom. AC would be a most welcome addition but the 2-70 AC is doing the job. Long live the Sherpa!
Legroom maybe, but the suspension on those 79 trucks is a back-breaker by all accounts. . . Think heavy-rated leaf springs! Same with the 78's too.
Beowulf
05-30-2012, 03:31 AM
I believe I saw they were running 255/75s with 7" wide rims.
Beowulf
05-30-2012, 03:32 AM
Does anyone know if Scott took one of Autohome's new Prototype Tripolina Butterfly Chairs?
Ray Hyland
05-30-2012, 02:06 PM
Does anyone know if Scott took one of Autohome's new Prototype Tripolina Butterfly Chairs?
They are using Kermit chairs.
Scott Brady
05-30-2012, 02:12 PM
Does anyone know if Scott took one of Autohome's new Prototype Tripolina Butterfly Chairs?
Mike from Autohome did provide a sample chair for ExPo to evaluate. Look for a detailed review in the coming weeks. On initial impression, it is a nice, well thought out unit
dieselcruiserhead
05-30-2012, 02:57 PM
Congrats guys... What a neat trip! Kurt from your post from Facebook, I remember when I was 16 my dad lent me his massive pickup which I took through Manhattan and had a lot of the same feelings. That is my old stomping ground! Also there is an awesome road from Quebec to Newfoundland that is all fast smooth dirt the entire way and takes you through some of the remotest parts of eastern Canada (almost all of Canada is remote in a way). One to add to the list - takes a couple days to get across and past some of the rural rural hydroelectricity dams all over Canada and the only sizable activity out there.
I looks forward to following this for the next couple years! So neat...
TangoBlue
05-30-2012, 04:34 PM
Okay, I've been incommunicado for a few days... where the heck is Brains, Comic, Bounty Hunter, Mad Scientist, Villain and Lover Boy?
Not my nick-names - courtesy of a waitress from a previous post; I kind of liked Darth myself. ;)
Scott Brady
05-30-2012, 11:54 PM
Newfoundland has been spectacular so far. I am constantly amazed by the quality of camping opportunities in Canada's parks.
102979
How I sleep in the vehicle. Personally, I am a huge fan of a semi-permanent sleeping arrangement with little to no set-up. I just leave the pad, bag and pillow in the back and can crawl in the back. The high roof really helps. In dusty conditions, I have a cover that goes over the bedding. I hook the soft luggage to the lashing rails on the other side using carabiners.
102980
Camp in Terra Nova National Park. Beautiful and our site had a pile of wood that was delivered. In the morning, the sweet lady from the visitors center drove all the way to our camp to see if we needed more wood. Canada rocks.
102981
There is a unique trail that crosses all of Newfoundland on a narrow gauge rail bed. We explored quite a bit of it and some of the coastal dunes.
102982
The trucks performed better in the sand than expected, although we still needed to use the ground anchor once for a recovery.
We are having a super fun time in Newfoundland - I highly recommend a visit. I am hanging out in Saint John's for the next few days if anyone would like to meet up. We are prepping the trucks for shipment to Europe.
TangoBlue
05-31-2012, 12:01 AM
Good post! That's the detail that makes it more "real." Let us know when SPAM is on the menu...
Thanks Darth, er, Bounty Hunter, er, Scott.
Northern Explorer
05-31-2012, 01:39 AM
I second your opinion on Newfoundland.
Beowulf
05-31-2012, 01:42 AM
Brady,
I see you are using the Front Runner SS Table. Can you provide some feedback? Do you have it mounted under the Rack for easy access? I'd love see a full write up in OJ about it in the future.
Dgurley2000
05-31-2012, 02:12 AM
How I sleep in the vehicle. Personally, I am a huge fan of a semi-permanent sleeping arrangement with little to no set-up.
Where do your traveling companions sleep? Do more than one of you sleep in a vehicle at a time? Looks like AT did a nice job with the interior. Where do you keep your fishing poles? :)
forsakenfuture
05-31-2012, 02:35 AM
Is that a Red Oxx in that photo?
grahamfitter
05-31-2012, 03:21 AM
I am hanging out in Saint John's for the next few days...
Think Quidi Vidi :beer:
Christian P.
05-31-2012, 03:22 AM
Great job on the CBC radio interview!!!
1leglance
05-31-2012, 04:03 AM
Newfoundland has been spectacular so far. I am constantly amazed by the quality of camping opportunities in Canada's parks.
102979
How I sleep in the vehicle. Personally, I am a huge fan of a semi-permanent sleeping arrangement with little to no set-up. I just leave the pad, bag and pillow in the back and can crawl in the back. The high roof really helps. In dusty conditions, I have a cover that goes over the bedding. I hook the soft luggage to the lashing rails on the other side using carabiners.
This is very much how I had my Troopie setup, except I left a walk space down the middle to make it easier to move from the front to the back ( and cuz I need some space for my fake leg).
The high top really gives a comfortable amount of space and side to side there was plenty of room for 2 people.
So I assume 2 people per Troopie and ??? for the camera guys?
Thanks for the campsite pics, that is what is nice to see, the rigs & people in real life use.
cruiseroutfit
05-31-2012, 04:18 AM
Legroom maybe, but the suspension on those 79 trucks is a back-breaker by all accounts. . . Think heavy-rated leaf springs! Same with the 78's too.
No broken back here, in fact I'm actually really itching at the feet to drive more.
Congrats guys... What a neat trip! Kurt from your post from Facebook, I remember when I was 16 my dad lent me his massive pickup which I took through Manhattan and had a lot of the same feelings. That is my old stomping ground! Also there is an awesome road from Quebec to Newfoundland that is all fast smooth dirt the entire way and takes you through some of the remotest parts of eastern Canada (almost all of Canada is remote in a way). One to add to the list - takes a couple days to get across and past some of the rural rural hydroelectricity dams all over Canada and the only sizable activity out there.
I looks forward to following this for the next couple years! So neat...
I was thinking of you as we rocked through that area Dre', I think I remember you telling me about your travels through Manhattan. That area is so amazing, so dense, so green, so wet. I really want to get back to Newfoundland, I can see myself spending more time there in the future.
Okay, I've been incommunicado for a few days... where the heck is Brains, Comic, Bounty Hunter, Mad Scientist, Villain and Lover Boy?
Not my nick-names - courtesy of a waitress from a previous post; I kind of liked Darth myself. ;)
The handsome comic (can't let that one escape me :D) has just landed back in SLC. Its been an exciting couple weeks and it will take me a couple days to acclimate back to the regular life and get caught up on work. I've got some neat trips coming up later this next month (CruiserFest & RelicRun) and honestly being part of this E7 segment hasn't quenched a thirst only made my throat dry... I'm ready to hit the ground running on these next few trips and get planning something else. A big thanks to my fellow team members on the E7 trip, it was an honor and privilege to travel with you gents!
TangoBlue
05-31-2012, 04:27 AM
The handsome comic (can't let that one escape me :D) has just landed back in SLC.
I didn't want to offend your sense of modesty! Welcome back - temporarily!
p1michaud
05-31-2012, 08:32 AM
Newfoundland has been spectacular so far.
I am hanging out in Saint John's for the next few days if anyone would like to meet up.
Scott,
I'm very happy to hear you are enjoying our Eastern Canada experience. I've only spent limited time in Newfoundland but it's a top spot. You do realise that no trip to Saint John's is complete without a visit to George Street - famous for all the pubs. Of particular interest are:
O'Reilly's Irish Pub. 15 George Street - you never know who's going to turn up and play an impromptu concert. Many good artists tend to "appear" and put on a show.
Trapper John's 2 George Street - the paraphernalia is worth the visit alone, lest you get Screeched in...
Target Thursday to Saturday evenings and you'll be entertained guaranteed...
Great job on the CBC radio interview!!!
Any chance they have the interview up on CBC.ca? I'd be curious to listen in.
HumphreyBear
05-31-2012, 08:57 AM
Any chance they have the interview up on CBC.ca? I'd be curious to listen in.
The article on the homepage has it: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/1221254309/ID=2240589820
Listening to it now. The smooth, mellifluous tones of The Villain and The Bounty Hunter!
Redline
05-31-2012, 03:45 PM
I believe I saw they were running 255/75s with 7" wide rims.
255/85R16
Beowulf
05-31-2012, 03:48 PM
Thank you for the correction. Oddly I run that exact tire and always seem to type 75 instead of 85.
Ryanmb21
05-31-2012, 05:01 PM
Cool update, this is an interesting follow!
oryxexpeditions
05-31-2012, 08:51 PM
No broken back here, in fact I'm actually really itching at the feet to drive more.
Yet. . . Please update once you leave the pavement. . . :ylsmoke:
cruiseroutfit
06-01-2012, 12:16 AM
Yet. . . Please update once you leave the pavement. . . :ylsmoke:
We did experience a fair amount of gravel/dirt roads, deep sand, old railroad grade and the climb up and over Engineer Pass in Coloardo. However, its all relative... I've do thousands of dirt miles in my SWB leaf sprung FJ40 all over the western US each year. Some of the nastiest washboard, rutted roads, Moab, sand, salt, etc. I think I'm a fair judge of ride quality in a variety of off-road platforms sans broken back ;)
oryxexpeditions
06-01-2012, 01:01 AM
We did experience a fair amount of gravel/dirt roads, deep sand, old railroad grade and the climb up and over Engineer Pass in Coloardo. However, its all relative... I've do thousands of dirt miles in my SWB leaf sprung FJ40 all over the western US each year. Some of the nastiest washboard, rutted roads, Moab, sand, salt, etc. I think I'm a fair judge of ride quality in a variety of off-road platforms sans broken back ;)
Yeah. . . when you put it that way, it is what it is. . . After the FJ40, the 79 probably feels a lot smoother by virtue of the coils in front and the longer wheelbase. I've honestly never ridden in a 70. I'm just commenting from the specs: a three to four ton vehicle on leaf springs made to haul the payload that truck has and comfort doesn't come to mind. . . An acquaintance of mine in South Africa is always talking about how they put aftermarket suspension on 70's to smooth out the ride some and save the kidneys. I'm sure after being used to my Rangie and Disco, I'd probably feel like I was riding on a buckboard. I used to drive a CJ5 and well remember what that ride was like. Felt like I didn't even have a suspension at speed on corrugations, etc. Can't beat the relative indestructibility of the 70 series at any rate. . .
David
conscript88
06-01-2012, 04:05 AM
Didn't have the camera on me, But I seen one of those sexy LC's at the Home Depot today. Good luck on the rest of your trip!
p1michaud
06-01-2012, 11:43 AM
The article on the homepage has it: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/1221254309/ID=2240589820
Just tuned in, good interview.
Scott and Greg,
Have you been Screeched in yet? :elkgrin:
Scott Brady
06-01-2012, 07:48 PM
Didn't have the camera on me, But I seen one of those sexy LC's at the Home Depot today. Good luck on the rest of your trip!
Sorry I missed you! We were picking up some conduit for our camera slider.
We spent most of the day today loading the trucks into the containers. Ledrew & Sons did all of the moving of containers and assisted with the loading and lashing.
I am really enjoying St. John's. A nice community.
PMA4x4
06-01-2012, 10:09 PM
255/85R16
Thank you!
cshontz
06-01-2012, 10:36 PM
The roads in Pennsylvania are beautiful and a welcome change from being transplanted into the desert.
Hrm... I've never been to the desert, unless you count Vegas. Pennsylvania roads are all I know.
conscript88
06-03-2012, 11:11 PM
If you haven't left yet make sure to pick up some Pinapple crush. Only place that makes it1
cruiseroutfit
06-03-2012, 11:13 PM
If you haven't left yet make sure to pick up some Pinapple crush. Only place that makes it1
Funny you mention it, I believe Mr. Scott was enjoying the rare Crush while on the big isle.
RMP&O
06-04-2012, 12:06 AM
Newfoundland has been spectacular so far. I am constantly amazed by the quality of camping opportunities in Canada's parks.
102979
How I sleep in the vehicle. Personally, I am a huge fan of a semi-permanent sleeping arrangement with little to no set-up.
That is how I like to roll also. In fact that is pretty much what I am doing with my newest build.
RMP&O
06-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Lance,
This is the second time you have commented about our pace. What is the longest trip you have done, both in miles and time?
Why does it matter how fast or far we drive per day in our own country. We are just transiting the trucks to the east coast to meet the container ship.
We are traveling in North America, our home continent, so there is less motivation to dwell and go slow. We have a very mellow pace planned for the other continents. I am spending months in France alone. . .
Maybe stop with the Monday morning quarterbacking until you see the trip unfold a bit?
Thanks
I like this post....mostly because it is their trip. People have commented on my trips a lot in the same way. And I always wonder why others care about how my/your trip flows. You either enjoy the trip being shared or you don't, it is pretty simple. I am sure Lance enjoys the trip report and I am not trying to single him or his post out.
Rather, enjoy trip reports for what they are, if you don't like the pace or locations or activities...oh well. Skip the thread! :)
bobDog
06-04-2012, 01:29 AM
I think some folks just didn't realize that they had seen the country and was worried they would miss out on many wonderful sights. I believe they meant well
That's how I read it anyway.
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oryxexpeditions
06-04-2012, 01:39 AM
I don't have a problem with their route/pace etc. It is their trip, after all. . . as others have said. They are just reporting what they have decided to do, which is fine in my book.
As the trip progresses, I would like to hear details about their daily living and driving arrangements with the vehicles. How the set-up is working, what equipment they are carrying, feedback on vehicle performance in different conditions, fuel consumption, driving impressions, preparation for shipping the vehicles for each leg of the trip, etc.?
David
haven
06-05-2012, 10:54 PM
The team reached Manhattan today.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/adventures/featured-adventures/1128-expeditions-7-new-york-city-contrasts.html
Amusing to read their apprehensions about driving the Land Cruisers in NYC. Much larger trucks use the streets every minute of the day. But having reserved parking spaces in front of B&H Photo Video? Priceless!
TangoBlue
06-05-2012, 11:25 PM
Pretty neat! Is there a map of the trip, like that on the hood of the truck?
r3run33
06-06-2012, 02:26 PM
scott you ROCK! thanks for posting all the links also like the shipping etc; sorry I missed you in NYC; would have loved to see those 70's in person. Thanks again; hey by the way what are you guys using for (restroom/ men's room/ toilet/ etc) while on the road?
r3run33
06-06-2012, 02:37 PM
just thought of something; are you guys doing a movie or tv show? is this why we don't get some of info about your trip?
LaOutbackTrail
06-06-2012, 02:38 PM
just thought of something; are you guys doing a movie or tv show? is this why we don't get some of info about your trip?
Would explain the camera crew and additional camera truck. :ylsmoke:
r3run33
06-06-2012, 02:41 PM
yup scott did have lots of equip when he did the dalton highway trip but they seem to have a lot more this time.
Redline
06-06-2012, 09:36 PM
The team reached Manhattan today.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/adventures/featured-adventures/1128-expeditions-7-new-york-city-contrasts.html
Amusing to read their apprehensions about driving the Land Cruisers in NYC. Much larger trucks use the streets every minute of the day. But having reserved parking spaces in front of B&H Photo Video? Priceless!
Nice piece Matt!
Redline
06-06-2012, 09:41 PM
just thought of something; are you guys doing a movie or tv show? is this why we don't get some of info about your trip?
Their work will likely be featured by many media outlets, therefore the sharing has to be limited/moderated. This is the case with many journalists who may also share tidbits online.
oryxexpeditions
06-06-2012, 10:19 PM
Their work will likely be featured by many media outlets, therefore the sharing has to be limited/moderated. This is the case with many journalists who may also share tidbits online.
Meaning: We have to wait for the movie. . . :)
Redline
06-06-2012, 10:28 PM
Meaning: We have to wait for the movie. . . :)
Or magazine articles, both, etc. :)
Christian P.
06-06-2012, 10:58 PM
there is a new article on the Expo front page, in case you missed it.
WheresMurph
06-09-2012, 09:24 AM
"The team reached Manhattan today.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/adve...contrasts.html
Amusing to read their apprehensions about driving the Land Cruisers in NYC. Much larger trucks use the streets every minute of the day. But having reserved parking spaces in front of B&H Photo Video? Priceless!"
Great article Matt, NYC has always been a favorite of mine, love the whole atmosphere of the city.
Murph
Ahh just saw the newfoundland article .. didn't know Bruce Dorn is part of the trip.. as a follower of his work from DWF... should be some awesome videos and photos ahead!
Curious.. is Bruce putting his studio's work on hiatus during this trip? how long is the trip?
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