View Full Version : Long Range Aux Tanks From OZ? (possible group buy)
Boston Mangler
01-28-2006, 07:05 PM
Hey Guys
I am trying to get my hands on a 44 Gallon Long Ranger Aux tank that blupaddler (Robb) has. They are only available in OZ and arent shipped to the US that often!
This mod will be fairly involved with a bunch of parts and pieces, but will dramatically increase my driving range!
Here is what i am trying to do:
The OZ 80 series have a cool subtank gauge with an almtimiter which mounts up near the rearview mirror. The gauge reads the level of the NON US subtank but can easily be made to read the 44 Gallon LR Aux tank as well. I am trying to get all these bits and pieces together to get the large Aux tank into my rig for an upcoming trip through Baja!
Pieces Needed For Install:
-OZ Market Subtank Gauge and Altimiter Cluster (JDM Market has a compass in place of the subtank gauge)
-OZ or JDM Market Rearview Mirror
-OZ or JDM Market Visors
-166L Long Ranger Aux Tank
-OEM Sending Unit
-OEM Non US Subtank Dash Switch
-Handbuilt ECM For Sending Units and Gauges
Pieces I have bought and or located:
-OZ Market Subtank Gauge Cluster
-OEM Sending Unit
-OEM Non US Subtank Switch
-Handbuilt ECM For Sending Units and Gauges
Pieces I Still Need:
-166L Tank (hard to get into this country)
-Rear View Mirror
-Visors
Anyone interested in installing one of the 44 Gallon Aux tanks? The price of shipping is the same whether we get 2 or 10. I figure if a few folks are interested, we could save a ton of $ on shipping.
Anyone?
Thanks a bunch
Kevin
cruiseroutfit
01-28-2006, 09:18 PM
Hey Kevin, are you aware of the deal Seth @ PVC Cruisers has going on right now? Give me a call if you want some details...
Kurt
801-518-3937
Boston Mangler
01-28-2006, 10:28 PM
Calling now!
:D
EDIT: NO ANSWER! :D
ANOTHER EDIT: Thanks for the call back, i left a message for Seth and hopefully hear back from him soon!
Thanks Kurt!
Boston Mangler
01-29-2006, 08:22 PM
Just got an email back from OZ
It is looking like about $592 US for the tank (166L = 44 Gallons, 10 more then the MAF one) and about $356 for freight. Now, i thought i read somewhere that the freight will be the same whether it is 1 tank or 5 tanks. The more people interested the cheaper it is. I replied back asking if this is how it works and i am currently waiting on their reponse!
The company can provide the extra parts, but due to shipping costs it might be best to source them here.
This is the company: http://www.oot4wd.com.au/=80Series.asp and www.thelongranger.com.au
Interest?
Thanks
Kevin
pskhaat
01-30-2006, 02:38 AM
Kurt, are they OEM tanks? Anyone know where I can get an OEM tank & dual filler neck, etc?
cruiseroutfit
01-30-2006, 04:51 AM
Kurt, are they OEM tanks? Anyone know where I can get an OEM tank & dual filler neck, etc?
Seth is importing a couple trucks and has some extra container room... that is the deal I was referring too... :D
Boston Mangler
02-02-2006, 02:44 AM
Hey Guys
This looks as if it may happen!
Please email me with your Name, Location, and Email addy if your interested in being on the "Email Info" Group!
Thanks
Desertdude
02-05-2006, 03:34 AM
You know I'm in :victory:
Boston Mangler
02-07-2006, 11:23 AM
Hey Kurt
Get in touch with Seth ASAP regarding the tanks, he is trying to get ahold of you!
Thanks
Kevin
blupaddler
02-07-2006, 02:26 PM
Kevin,
BTW, I found the wiring instructions. I will make a bunch of copies.
:D
Desertdude
02-07-2006, 02:55 PM
Thanks for that Robb :) - anything else you can share about the install?
Boston Mangler
02-08-2006, 12:44 AM
Kevin,
BTW, I found the wiring instructions. I will make a bunch of copies.
:D
Thanks a bunch Robb! I eagerly await your install writeup!
Also, here is a sneak peak (crappy picture) of that OEM subtank gauge/altimiter setup that i am installing from an OZ spec 80. I installed it last weekend, super easy, all the holes and nutserts are already there!!!
Click on the thumbnail below to see the full size!
Desertdude
02-08-2006, 02:11 AM
Interesting gauge set up - you are obviously not heading to the switch and stock gauge (ala george (http://george4wd.taskled.com/auxtank.html))
Boston Mangler
02-08-2006, 02:15 AM
Interesting gauge set up - you are obviously not heading to the switch and stock gauge ( ala george)
Nope, well, kinda! I will be transfering the fuel via the stock non US subtank switch, but i wont be using the "Toggle" switch and i wont be tapping into the stock gauge either. The mod i am doing is going to end up being a pain in the arse, but i think it will be cool! And coolness is what counts! :D
Boston Mangler
02-08-2006, 02:35 AM
Here are some pics of the dual filler neck that i recieved today
very cool for $150
Desertdude
02-08-2006, 08:37 PM
They are very clean - spoke with Paul - mine will be here Friday...
Any other exciting news? :coffee:
Boston Mangler
02-09-2006, 02:29 AM
They are very clean - spoke with Paul - mine will be here Friday...
Any other exciting news? :coffee:
YES! Check your email!!
Woo Hoo!
Desertdude
02-09-2006, 04:22 AM
That is great news! :clapsmile I am onboard and finacially commited as of now.
Just think total of 69 gal of gas at roughly 2.29 = 158.01 for a fill up :)
69 gal X 12 mpg = 828 miles
If we buy gas at the best price this could pay for itself in short order :ylsmoke:
Boston Mangler
02-09-2006, 04:25 AM
That is great news! :clapsmile I am onboard and finacially commited as of now.
Just think total of 69 gal of gas at roughly 2.29 = 158.01 for a fill up :)
69 gal X 12 mpg = 828 miles
If we buy gas at the best price this could pay for itself in short order :ylsmoke:
Copy That!!! :clapsmile
This is going to be a cool "Group Project" via LOTS of emails with install tips and such!
I will be doing a HUGE and VERY detailed writeup of this!
I have been meaning to fab up a rear bumper and have lacked the motivation, now that i am going to be putting a tank there, i will be forced to move the tire and therefore forced to fab up a new rear bumper!
Its a win win! :jump:
blupaddler
02-09-2006, 05:52 AM
Hey, what do you mean $2.29?
Maybe I do NEED to move to Arizona.
Desertdude
02-09-2006, 01:40 PM
yeah ain't it great! Gas in DeathValley at Furnace Creek Ranch
$3.049 that is cheap! it was 3.79 last visit in the fall ;)
Looking forward to being in the Long Ranger club :victory:
Desertdude
02-12-2006, 12:13 AM
Thanks to Kevins advice - this came from Paul at Spector - nice -clean - inexpensive - will be an easy mod to angle the fuel into the LR tank - check out the nifty pull door to move the gas to either fill tube - very slick!:victory:
blupaddler
02-12-2006, 01:26 AM
Congrats Pasquale!!!
That thing is really clean. And it looks like it is an unleaded not diesel version. Also, the ones you guys got have the longer bracket so you can mount it without having to make a bracket like I did.
:D
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 01:41 AM
. And it looks like it is an unleaded not diesel version.
Hey Robb, whats the difference?
Here is a pic of mine as well
asteffes
02-12-2006, 01:48 AM
So what's a good way for me to begin investigating a larger, or secondary, tank for my '06 Tacoma? I have no idea where to begin, and have no idea if there is anything out there for these trucks, but the idea of a roughly 800-900 mile range has always been tempting. I wish all cars had, say, 25-50 gallon tanks. :)
Desertdude
02-12-2006, 01:51 AM
hmmmm guess we got lucky - Looks like it needs a tiny rubber grommet for the door puller - other than that I am very stoked
Robb - what did you need to get for the tank to be read by the OEM panel fuel gauge?
Kevin - do I need to get a sending unit from Cdan ?
blupaddler
02-12-2006, 01:56 AM
My filler neck is just straight tubing. This accepts the larger diesel nozzles. From what I can tell from looking at yours (Kevin) & Pasquales, they both have some sort of limiting device. It's the welded in piece just inside of the outer ring that holds the fuel cap on.
Kevin, let me know when you want the copies. Also, remind me how much the aux fuel gauge costs. Does the altimeter actually work too?
Pasquale, I might have to "hand" deliver yours.
blupaddler
02-12-2006, 02:06 AM
Pasquale, I must have missed your post while writting. Sorry.
Good idea on the rubber gromet on the pull-lever. Actually, if you look at your current gas cap and the surrounding black plastic. There is a small circle to the right and a little lower than the cap. This is where the lever will come out. Also, remember that the handle on the lever unscrews, so you only need to drill a "little" hole. ;)
Have you guys bought George's control box?
Regarding the fuel guage...The sending unit in the "new" sub tank is wired to the OEM guage in the Dash. You then have a two way toggle switch. This will allow you to monitor one tank at a time. Just not both at the same time. :rolleyes:
Pasquale, I have the wiring directions that Slee made up for the sub tank. These are based on using the sub-tank switch, and George's control box. I saved the directions and will be making copies.
:victory:
Desertdude
02-12-2006, 02:14 AM
Have you guys bought George's control box?
I have not - still collecting data on parts needed - ( heading over to his site now)
Desertdude
02-12-2006, 02:58 AM
this electric pump (http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=egnsearch.asp&N=115+400415+300309&autoview=sku)?
better view (http://www.dougherbert.com/competitionserieselectricfuelpump-pi-8812.html)
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 03:40 AM
hmmmm guess we got lucky - Looks like it needs a tiny rubber grommet for the door puller
??? More Details Please! :D
Kevin - do I need to get a sending unit from Cdan ?
Yes, he just quoted me $56
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 03:41 AM
Kevin, let me know when you want the copies.
Whenever works for you!
Also, remind me how much the aux fuel gauge costs. Does the altimeter actually work too?
Found a few of them in OZ for $80 or so and yes the altimiter works, i tested mine this weekend at the smugglers run. The alt is a stand alone unit and no wiring is involved!
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 03:45 AM
Have you guys bought George's control box? :
I have been emailing back and forth with him and seeing if he can make us a plug and play solution so no soldering is required!
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 04:24 AM
So what's a good way for me to begin investigating a larger, or secondary, tank for my '06 Tacoma? I have no idea where to begin, and have no idea if there is anything out there for these trucks, but the idea of a roughly 800-900 mile range has always been tempting. I wish all cars had, say, 25-50 gallon tanks. :)
Check This:
http://www.oot4wd.com.au/=Hilux%Series%2.asp
and this:
http://www.oot4wd.com.au/=Hilux%Series%3.asp
Same Company that is making the tanks for the 80 series!
Also, try these guys as well:
http://www.oppositelock.com.au
Good luck! Took me almost 6 months to get this going! :D
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 01:49 PM
Regarding the fuel guage...The sending unit in the "new" sub tank is wired to the OEM guage in the Dash. You then have a two way toggle switch. This will allow you to monitor one tank at a time. Just not both at the same time. :rolleyes:
Pasquale, I have the wiring directions that Slee made up for the sub tank. These are based on using the sub-tank switch, and George's control box. I saved the directions and will be making copies.
:victory:
I am hoping that wiring the NEW sender to the overhead subtank gauge, should, in theory, be close to the same. I am having a hell of a time trying to get my hands on an OZ spec wiring diagram! :D
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 05:41 PM
Hey Robb
Would you recommend another pump, or did you like the one you got?
Thanks
Boston Mangler
02-12-2006, 09:26 PM
Those thinking of the Overhead Subtank Gauge, Might wanna read this:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=76089&page=2
blupaddler
02-12-2006, 09:43 PM
I HAD a Carter fuel pump.
It worked great, was super heavy-duty, and easy to install. I got the one designed for the marine environment, which was a little more expensive. The only problem I had was finding a mounting location. The location I ended up using was not high enough, and while traveling down a Baja road, I broke the Carter pump. One of the control arms came up and whacked the thing really good. The directions require the pump to be mounted in a certain direction, up and down. Thus mounting locations were tricky. Slee said they mounted one back by the rear bumper. I just didn't want to have a long fuel line run.
SIDE NOTE: My 80 does NOT have bump stops inside my rear springs. I believe, if I had the bump stops, this may have prevented my pump from breaking.
Currently I am using a generic transfer pump that I got from Napa. It was a LOT cheaper ($30) than the Carter ($110). The pump rate is around 30 gph. Which is kinda slow. You can also hear more of a knock-knock-knock noise as it's pumping, compared to the whirr that the Carter made. But, it works for now. The Napa one is also smaller than the Carter.
Hope this helps.
:D
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