Stupid question of the day

[jim65wagon]

Since I know nothing about trailers perhaps everyone who does can help me out. What are the differences between the military trailers like the m100, m101, m416 and the like? Not really looking to buy a trailer (yet) but researching possibilities for the future just in case I don't win the AT in the contest:rolleyes: Thanks everyone for your knowledge, patience and schooling...

[OverlandZJ]

Jim, they are relatively all the same dimensions AFAIK.

The M100 has the cargo box welded to the frame whereas the M416 is bolted. The 100 has rounded fenders, the 416 flat topped. The 100/416's have rounded tube upper rails, the M101 has square rails making it easier to mount a watertight lid.

The CDN M101 is also a 1/4 ton (the american M101 is 3/4 ton) was manufactured later than the 416 so finding a clean example may prove a bit easier.

I'm not sure if the M101 is bolted to frame?

[Feileod]

I'll add my two cents to this post. The CDN2 M101 is welded to its frame. The weight between gradually increases the newer the trailer model gets. If you check out Yahoo groups CDN2 M101 there is a comparison chart for the various trailers. it includeds weights dimensions ect... Hope that helps

[Haggis]

When I saw the title your name came instantly to mind. That's odd.:shakin:

Does Beth know your shopping for an expo trailer and if she doesn't what's it worth for her not to know?:D

[Tucson T4R]

When I saw the title your name came instantly to mind. That's odd.:shakin:

Does Beth know your shopping for an expo trailer and if she doesn't what's it worth for her not to know?:D


:xxrotflma :jump: :hehe: :hehe:

[jim65wagon]

When I saw the title your name came instantly to mind. That's odd.:shakin:

Does Beth know your shopping for an expo trailer and if she doesn't what's it worth for her not to know?:D

Yeah I knew you'd think of me. Not shopping just learning. Love the idea of "basecamp on wheels" you know; always thinking of possibilities to improve our setup. Thanks for thinking of me. OOh yeah the blackmail thing...won't work this time...she was talking RTT the other day after seeing how easy Chris's was to set and stow. If that future were to happen I have to plan a place to mount it and that leaves two options.
1. Extend the bed rack to fullsize which means I have to climb under it to stow stuff. or
2. Trailer, of course when we win the AT I won't need to know about military trailers so all this learning will be for nothing. Just like college.

Thanks John, I knew one person would actually answer the question without sarcasm. Of course we've never actually met, so you're probably holding back.

Now, what about things like suspensions and brakes, lights etc.

[7slotgrills]

The M100 has a box on the front round fenders and CJ bolt pattern
www.7slotgrills.com/m100project.html

[Robert Bills]

What are the differences between the military trailers like the m100, m101, m416 and the like?

Try these links:

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/HubbardTrailers/Bantam.html

http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/JeepTrailerPage.html

They should get you started.

(Note: The American M101 is a 3/4 ton trailer; the Canadian M101 is a 1/4 ton trailer with many similarities to the American M416.)

[fireflyr]

The M100 is about 4 inches narrower than the M416. The offset on the wheels are also different. Here's a picture of my buddies' 416 and my M100.


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee191/fireflyr_photos/DSC02800.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee191/fireflyr_photos/DSC02849.jpg

[7slotgrills]

Can you tell me on your M100 the distance from the back of the spindle to
the back of the other spindle?

[IH8RDS]

Try these links:

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/HubbardTrailers/Bantam.html

http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/JeepTrailerPage.html

They should get you started.

(Note: The American M101 is a 3/4 ton trailer; the Canadian M101 is a 1/4 ton trailer with many similarities to the American M416.)

You beat me to it Robert.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/HubbardTrailers/Bantam.html

[fireflyr]

I'm kind of dense; which or what spindle are you talking about? Where the lunette attaches or the spindle on the axle?

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee191/fireflyr_photos/DSC02841-1.jpg

Or the measurement of the width of the axle?

[7slotgrills]

On the Axle.The distance from the back of the spindle to the back of the other spindle? My M100 axle was not there and someone welded in GM
spindles and boly pattern. I want to make it right again with CJ spindles
and 6 bolt hubs. I'm hearing 46"? Right now my tube is 48"

[cshontz]

Yeah I knew you'd think of me. Not shopping just learning. Love the idea of "basecamp on wheels" you know; always thinking of possibilities to improve our setup.

You're thinking of trailers? You have a whole truck bed. A whole bed! I told Jen about the NC trip, and she got pretty excited. I'm going to have to jam my whole family into the back of my XJ with my gear... and I don't even know where I'd put one of those fancy Toyota buckets. I'm thinking about trailers! :coffeedrink:

[stick]

This is a good resource for trailer info as well: http://vegasauto.net/m416.html If you scroll to the bottom of the page, there are a lot of links to other military and civilian Bantam trailer resources.

[jim65wagon]

You're thinking of trailers? You have a whole truck bed. A whole bed! I told Jen about the NC trip, and she got pretty excited. I'm going to have to jam my whole family into the back of my XJ with my gear... and I don't even know where I'd put one of those fancy Toyota buckets. I'm thinking about trailers! :coffeedrink:
Technically speaking, with the rack I've got a whole bed and a half! But you've seen it, full, every nook and cranny full. Besides with the trailer I can get one of those cool RTTs like other people have! Just the idea of a basecamp on wheels, quick setup, is appealing. More appealing than unloading most of the bed, setting up two tents, four cots, etc. Ultimately, if we had the cash, we'd be seriously thinking of the Campa....

The old XJ is going to get pretty cramped, maybe I'll have room for another bucket. Jeep guys probably aren't allowed to sit on a Toyota bucket!:hehe:

[cshontz]

The old XJ is going to get pretty cramped, maybe I'll have room for another bucket. Jeep guys probably aren't allowed to sit on a Toyota bucket!:hehe:

Yeah, its more than adequate for myself, or day trips with the family - but not really good for multi-nighters with the whole crew. I told her about beach camping in NC, and she wanted in - then she started saying things about "loads of blankets", and air mattress, and I'm like... :smilies27

I put the 12V fridge in the back, and that's half the cargo area pretty much. The tent and air-mattress bin takes up the other half... and... everything else can go on top, or on the seat next to the boy.

Actually, I stumbled upon the toilet thread that's somewhere around here, and kinda fancied that neat toilet dealie that Sierra Expeditions sells. Looks like a quality receptacle for... crapping into. Folds up too.

But no... without going too far off-topic, I'm thinking about things. A trailer would be the ticket. I could continue to enjoy the size and mobility of the XJ, and take stuff with me too. A truck would also be good, but... I made a promise to myself to not buy anymore vehicles - so I can eventually partake in the wonderful "debt-free living" threads that pop up around here. That'd be nice. I need to start a "living-free debt" thread. Maybe I could make an off-road trailer out of the Miata. :D

[jim65wagon]

Yeah, its more than adequate for myself, or day trips with the family - but not really good for multi-nighters with the whole crew. I told her about beach camping in NC, and she wanted in - then she started saying things about "loads of blankets", and air mattress, and I'm like... :smilies27

I put the 12V fridge in the back, and that's half the cargo area pretty much. The tent and air-mattress bin takes up the other half... and... everything else can go on top, or on the seat next to the boy.

Actually, I stumbled upon the toilet thread that's somewhere around here, and kinda fancied that neat toilet dealie that Sierra Expeditions sells. Looks like a quality receptacle for... crapping into. Folds up too.

But no... without going too far off-topic, I'm thinking about things. A trailer would be the ticket. I could continue to enjoy the size and mobility of the XJ, and take stuff with me too. A truck would also be good, but... I made a promise to myself to not buy anymore vehicles - so I can eventually partake in the wonderful "debt-free living" threads that pop up around here. That'd be nice. I need to start a "living-free debt" thread. Maybe I could make an off-road trailer out of the Miata. :D

Now, just how are you going to get that massive air mattress into the ARB tent? :rolleyes:

As for the fridge, if its taking up too much room, maybe I could haul it around for you for a while?