Overland Navigator: New product launch [Archive]

Scott Brady

10-23-2007, 01:44 AM

Our member, Craig Miller has developed an awesome new navigation package worth checking out:

Our member, Craig Miller has developed an awesome new navigation package worth checking out:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

OVERLAND NAVIGATOR SOFTWARE RELEASED
FIRST TOPOGRAPHIC MAPPING SOFTWARE AVAILABLE FOR TOUCHSCREEN / PEN BASED COMPUTERS

MT VERNON, WA (October 10, 2008) – Spatial Minds, LLC has released Overland Navigator the first touchscreen friendly Topographic GPS Mapping software for Windows. With the proliferation of tablet, convertible, and Microsoft’s new Ultra Mobile PC (UMPC) computers, support for touch and pen based software input is at an all time high. As part of an entire “Field Friendly” software design, Overland Navigator is the first topographic mapping software to allow easy map manipulation even when wearing gloves and working in bright sunlight. Overland Navigator is moving topographic mapping off the desktop and into the field.
Overland Navigator mosaics detailed USGS Topographic maps and displays them as a single seamless interactive map. The map can be panned and zoomed with the touch of a finger, pen, or mouse. GPS Tracks are automatically displayed when a USB storage device is inserted. If a GPS is connected it will show the current location, position the map at the location, record a track log, and mark any points of interest.
Overland Navigator User’s don’t need to worry about folding it, drawing on it, bringing the right map, or figuring out which map they should be looking at (the GPS positions it for them). Overland Navigator makes Topographic GPS mapping simple and easy at home and in the field.
• Touchscreen and Pen Computing Compatible
• Field Friendly
• Seamless USGS Topgraphic Maps
• Automatic Map Display
• Display Current GPS Position
• Automatic Panning
• Manual Panning
• Zoom In / Zoom Out
• Show GPS Tracks
• Automatic GPX Track Display on Memory Stick Insertion
• Record GPS Track
• Record GPS Waypoint
• Remote Control Software Compatible
• Windows Messaging API
• Car PC software compatible
• Windows Vista "Aero" style user interface
• Windows Vista Compatible
Learn more at http://www.overlandnavigator.com
Overland Navigator is compatible with Windows 95, 98, 2000, ME, XP, NT and Vista.

Overland Navigator provides seamless detailed USGS 1:250,000, 1:100,000 and 1:24,000 scale maps. Map and Software updates for 2 years are included via a free download.

Overland Navigator can be ordered online at http://www.overlandnavigator.com. Suggested retail price is $79.95.

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Note: Artwork is available on request. Contact Craig Miller at (206) 331-3952 or sales@spatialminds.com

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Contacts:
Craig Miller
Spatial Minds, LLC
(206) 331-3952
sales@spatialminds.com

1leglance

10-23-2007, 02:34 AM

wow that is very cool...
I have been considering downsizing my laptop since it is big and heavy...
many of the smaller toughbooks are touchscreen and this would be a nice product to try out in comparison to oziexplorer.
Thanks for the heads up

cruiseroutfit

10-23-2007, 02:50 AM

Very cool! :cool:

craig

10-23-2007, 03:09 AM

Wow! Hey thanks Scott. :)

I'll be releasing map packs for Oregon and Arizona within the next couple of weeks, and other states to follow (especially if there is strong interest in a particular state).

The software will of course continue to evolve so if anyone has any ideas they've always wished would be in a mapping package please send me a PM or email them to support@spatialminds.com. I'd love to hear from you.

Craig

cruiseroutfit

10-23-2007, 03:14 AM

Utah, Utah, Utah, Utah!!!!

PCRover

10-23-2007, 03:19 AM

Looks great! I use Roadrunner and this would be perfect for me. Don't forget us California guys! I would buy Nevada too. Actually a NV,CA package would be cool.

Willman

10-23-2007, 03:52 AM

Utah, Utah, Utah, Utah!!!!

Ditto!~

:jumping:

kcowyo

10-23-2007, 06:42 AM

Cutting edge stuff. Very nice. :clapsmile

MaddBaggins

10-23-2007, 08:38 PM

Since I am computer/software challenged to say the least (severely handicapped is more like it), I'm gonna say you guys should use map and compass. Computers and GPS are cheating :shakin:

Nice software! If I ever join the modern age, maybe I'll look into it.

The BN Guy

10-23-2007, 08:48 PM

Nice program! Yet another reason to get a PDA.

craig

10-23-2007, 08:56 PM

Nice program! Yet another reason to get a PDA.

Unfortunately it won't run under WindowsCE. The EO Tuftab, Samsung Q1 Tablet, etc are small devices but run Windows XP or or Vista. They are a good size for the truck as they don't clutter up the cabin as much as a laptop, but give you the benefits of a larger screen and full computer.

Craig

The BN Guy

10-23-2007, 09:33 PM

Wow those get a little pricey for me. Guess I'll just keep my laptop.

craig

10-23-2007, 09:57 PM

Wow those get a little pricey for me. Guess I'll just keep my laptop.

Yeah, I know what you mean; especially the ruggedized ones like the EO. The Samsung Q1 can be had for $730 new, and I've seen it as low as $300 on eBay.

Regular laptops, convertibles, and non-ruggedized tablets work well with the software too. A UMPC works exceptionally well for this, but it isn't a requirement.

Craig

Desertdude

10-23-2007, 10:27 PM

Well done Craig! It is great to see your concept come to life.

:Astrologist: Any chance for a mac version?

craig

10-23-2007, 10:35 PM

Well done Craig! It is great to see your concept come to life.

:Astrologist: Any chance for a mac version?

While not officially supported, I've been told by one of the beta-testers that it does run quite well under parallels. :) Eventually I will port it and officially support it but it isn't on the schedule yet.

Craig

spressomon

11-02-2007, 01:15 PM

Skylinerider

11-02-2007, 01:51 PM

Utah, Utah, Utah, Utah!!!!

x3 :costumed-smiley-007

craig

11-03-2007, 05:45 AM

Craig: Can your software easily/quickly toggle between GPS routing and non-GPS routing maps? Ideally it would be nice to be able to adjust the scale/view of each GPS "on/off" modes...

Can you actually use the software to auto-route/navigate off-road? I.e.: Mark a waypoint/destination and have it auto-route to that destination?

How many routes, waypoints does it support?

Another vote for California, Nevada + Oregon!

Thanks,
Dan

Right now, there is no support for routing. You are the routing engine. :) I've given a lot of thought to routing support for use in rural environments and even written a prototype, unfortunately the data that is currently available from TeleAtlas and Navtec (the road networks) isn't sufficiently detailed for reliable off-pavement routing. E.g. There is no distinction between a 4x4 trail and a Forest Service road, no awareness of gates, etc. So, while it can be done technically, it can't be done reliably or in the manner in which one would expect.

By adjusting the scale/view I assume you mean adjust when it switches from one set of maps to another as you zoom in/out. This isn't exposed via the user interface, but it is very easily modified via the registry.. wait, that sounds geeky and nerdy. I can easily add that as a feature to the settings utility and will add it to my TODO list. In order to get the scale accurate, you will have to calibrate your screen (specify the height/width in inches).

It doesn't support GPX routes, only tracks and waypoints. Tracks and waypoints are essentially only limited by the amount of available memory. The tracks are indexed with a spatial index when loaded, so having many tracks that aren't inside the current map window doesn't cause a degradation in performance.

OR, AZ, and CA are nearly complete.

Craig

craig

11-03-2007, 05:46 AM

I have this nagging idea that I should probably add support for Utah soon.

:)

C

edgear

11-03-2007, 11:10 PM

UT would be very awesome!!

overlander

03-19-2008, 07:32 PM

So I'm building a carpc with touchscreen, and wondering when the rest of the states will be available for this? Are there any updates to this?

IH8RDS

03-19-2008, 08:02 PM

Unfortunately it won't run under WindowsCE.

:violent-smiley-031:

I have a Jenson navigator that runs CE. Any plans for the future?

craig

03-19-2008, 10:27 PM

So I'm building a carpc with touchscreen, and wondering when the rest of the states will be available for this? Are there any updates to this?

Work on the map sets was put on hold for the past couple of months while I ramped up on a new contract. It resumed a couple of days ago, as I too, am interested in getting maps compiled for additional states for use in the upcoming Overland/Offroading season.

Unfortunately there aren't any immediate plans to support the entire US at the 1:24k level. By immediate I mean the next 3-6 months. Other than a few problem quads the Western US is essentially complete and you should start seeing individual states being released one at a time over the next couple of months.

If there is sufficient interest I might consider doing a US wide version that goes down to the 1:100k level.
Craig

craig

03-19-2008, 10:29 PM

:violent-smiley-031:

I have a Jenson navigator that runs CE. Any plans for the future?

Nothing concrete. I like the pricepoint on the Windows CE hardware, and have developed Windows CE mapping packages in the past so it is something that I'd like to do down the road. I don't have any plans now though.

Craig

overlander

03-20-2008, 01:13 AM

If there is sufficient interest I might consider doing a US wide version that goes down to the 1:100k level.
Craig

I'm in NC, but I'm in. 100k is a good start for my carpc project in my 110. I want moving topo on my planned dash touchscreen :smiley_drive: , so I'll go public and say let's get'er done. The only competition you have is Topo 7 and OziExplorer, which really isn't competition for touchscreen applications once you have the maps.

Who's with me? :luxhello:

IH8RDS

03-20-2008, 08:29 PM

Nothing concrete. I like the pricepoint on the Windows CE hardware, and have developed Windows CE mapping packages in the past so it is something that I'd like to do down the road. I don't have any plans now though.

Craig

Thanks for your response. So the is a 1 in 1,000,000 chance. :hehe:

If you need a beta tester, let me know. :wavey:

craig

03-20-2008, 08:41 PM

rmccoy

03-28-2008, 12:14 AM

Looks great. Can't wait for the CA maps so I can try it out on my tabletpc. I like the ability to make use of the touchscreen feature on the tabletpc.

PCRover

03-28-2008, 01:22 AM

What will the additional states cost? Will they be released packaged with the software, or just as add ons to the current release?

craig

03-28-2008, 03:40 AM

Pricing for additional states will be based on the size of the state or region. A decision to sell the state data as a separate product that is unbundled from the Overland Navigator software hasn't been made yet. There have been a few requests now and it is currently under consideration.

Craig

PCRover

03-28-2008, 04:57 AM

What I am asking is will I need to buy the Software with the WA maps even if I only want CA? Or will you be offering the option to pick your state?

craig

03-28-2008, 05:34 AM

You are right, I misunderstood.

If you want just California you will not be required to purchase Overland Navigator Washington. You will be able to buy "Overland Navigator - California" which will include:

* Overland Navigator Software
* USGS Topographic Basemaps for California (1:24k, 1:100k, 1:250k)

The same will be true for all the other states that are released.

Craig

PCRover

03-28-2008, 04:12 PM

Thanks! That is the info I was looking for. Please post here when more states become available.

craig

03-28-2008, 06:46 PM

I'm here most days so I'll definitely post up when other states are ready.

If you'd like to be notified personally visit the website and submit a request via the contact form (no registration necessary).

Craig
http://www.overlandnavigator.com

Shadow-Warrior

03-28-2008, 06:52 PM

Very Nice, I've been looking for something smaller for a tablet PC for the Rig, looks like it fits the bill. :)

Mike

egn

03-29-2008, 06:30 AM

OVERLAND NAVIGATOR SOFTWARE RELEASED
FIRST TOPOGRAPHIC MAPPING SOFTWARE AVAILABLE FOR TOUCHSCREEN / PEN BASED COMPUTERS

TTQV (http://www.ttqv.com/main.php?sprache=2) with touchscreen mode is available for many years.

I use it since several years. The combination of TTQV on a notebook for planning and PathAway (http://pathaway.com/) on my HTC Advantage (http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=752) for navigation is currently the ideal combination for me.

overlander

05-01-2008, 02:14 AM

Any updates on progress? My RoverPC is almost done!

craig

05-01-2008, 02:48 AM

Washington (new version) and Oregon are completed and will be sent to the DVD publisher in 1-2 weeks (final testing and graphics still need to get prepped).

A US Wide 1:100k version is about 1 week from going into alpha testing.

After that, I'm going to start work on the next version of the software to try and incorporate the feedback I've received from the initial release.

Craig

overlander

05-01-2008, 02:49 PM

I still owe you that feedback from me. I'll be the first buyer once the 100k version is in, so I can get it incorporated into roadrunner and get off road situational awareness at the highest level, and save having to buy and integrate topo 7 as an interim solution.

is it easy to add additional states? Once I start using the roverpc, I'll have more interface feedback to give you. in the meantime, if I have moving map with displayed coordinates (in a variety of datums to include mgrs) and altitude, and the means to enter a goto waypoint with navigation course arrow (with distance remaining), that checks the block. I could care less about 3D rendering as a priority.

craig

05-01-2008, 02:59 PM

Adding an additional state is as simple as inserting a DVD and clicking through the an installer wizard. Removing a state (or US wide version) is as simple as running the windows uninstaller for the specific set of maps that you want to remove.

I'll add the features you've requested that aren't included now to my short list of items for the next version. They are easy to implement and features that I want as well. In the next version the only choice for coordinate display will be lat/lon/WGS84 but I'll add support for the common SAR and military coordinate systems in the near future.

I think you've already submitted these feature requests, but if you have others in the future please e-mail them to support@spatialminds.com and they will go into the feature tracking system insuring that they won't get lost.

Craig

overlander

05-01-2008, 03:02 PM

sweet. so what's the predicted release time frame for the 100k? I wont' hold you to it, just want to get a sense of scale (weeks, months, quarters, etc)?

craig

05-01-2008, 03:41 PM

sweet. so what's the predicted release time frame for the 100k? I wont' hold you to it, just want to get a sense of scale (weeks, months, quarters, etc)?

Contact me directly when you get a chance and we can talk in more detail but a VERY rough timeline would be 3-8 weeks.

Craig

overlander

05-01-2008, 03:42 PM

will do. That is pretty good. I don't have a pressing need.

craig

03-19-2009, 11:31 PM

The latest version of Overland Navigator is now available. In addition to software enhancements, we now have map-pack support for most western states down to 1:24k and maps for the entire US down to 1:100k.

http://www.spatialminds.com

JPFreek1

03-23-2009, 07:34 PM

Craig, I may have missed it somewhere in this thread but are there plans, or is there current availability, for a Mac-compatible version of this?

craig

03-23-2009, 08:56 PM

There aren't any plans for a Mac compatible version at this time.

While not supported, one customer reported that version 1.0 ran under Parallels. We haven't tried version 2.0.

Craig

JPFreek1

03-26-2009, 01:12 AM

Where's the Mac love?! Seriously though, very cool product. Looking forward to being able to use it someday. ;)

StumpXJ

04-10-2009, 01:23 PM

Craig, forgive my retardedness. I just purchased an HP TX1000z notebook/tablet touch screen computer, for use in my vehicle, with your software and a few other things.

I will be using this primarily on the east coast, so I will have to make due with the USA basemap in the 1:100K scale. I am ok with that. My questions: (bare with me)

1.) Just confirming, I need to buy the software AND the USA Map Pack correct? And if I want a specific map, I just buy that map itself. Once I buy the software, I can buy or add any map pack I want to right?

2.) I *thought* I remember seeing on your website something about "what GPS units are compatible"... I cant find it now, am I going crazy or? I have a "on road" style GPS with USA road maps, will the softare be able to use this GPS signal, or does it have to have a specfic GPS system?

3.) This doesnt really have anything to do with your software, but perhaps you can answer. How do I hook the GPS to the computer? Does the Overland Navigator automatically recognize the GPS signal?

I am probably making this way more complicated than it is, but I just dont want to buy something that wont work for me.

~James

Sergeant_V

04-10-2009, 01:48 PM

cactusjk

05-03-2009, 06:53 PM

Can anyone summarize whether Overland Navigator is a great choice for topo? Currently have an HP tablet but a smaller netbook might also be good. Need recommendations.

dzzz

05-05-2009, 06:26 PM

I'll add a question too. How does this compare to topo USA?

cactusjk

05-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Looking for good hardware solutions for use with Overland Navigator. Would like a netbook solution and would like feedback on anyone out there with ASUS, ACER, or other good choices.

overlander

05-05-2009, 10:17 PM

I'll add a question too. How does this compare to topo USA?

I'll take a stab at this. I had Delorme Topo (2007 version I believe) for my Toughbook before Overland Navigator became available. Now that I have OJ, I don't even have it loaded. Once Craig has all the maps available for all the states, I think Topo is going to be in real trouble. Delorme has tried to make the software a 'jack of all trades" in my opinion, and added ton's of features I have no interest in at all. This makes setup and usage of basic functions overly complicated. Many features are not intuitive at all. The one advantage I think Topo does have over other map programs is their database for searching for named places/landmarks. Unfortunately for Topo, the excessive "feature-palooza" they have going on has caused everything to be pretty much menu format, which would be a nightmare trying to use on the move in a vehicle. Zooming, panning, etc. all require precise mouse clicks to interact with, not at all compatible with a codriver trying to interact with a laptop while on the move on alternative corregated roads or 1+ trails. This is where Overland Navigator reigns suppreme...the moving map format. I am just overwhelmed with how intuitive the front end interface is on Overland Navigator. Nice big buttons for fat fingers on a touchscreen bouncing down a corrugated road. Buttons all disappear when you arent' touching the screen or the mouse isn't moving, so you can see all the terrain features, and no screen space is taken up by "fluff". I love how panning works. just touch the screen and scan, then it automatically snaps back in a few seconds after you stop. you also have the choice of staying in panning mode. Once configured, the gps will auto connect as soon as you have a signal..and that is any standard serial nmea signal, which is 90% of the GPS units out there. if you lose a connection (say during repeated hibernation), a quick touch of the gps button on the screen revitalizes the gps signal.

Overland Navigator "seems" to be pretty resource friendly as well. I'm running mine with other apps, with no issues on my machine. Using a com port splitter program (I have xport), I have dedicated coms for overland navigator and my street navigation software (Iguidance), which I can run both concurrently sharing the same gps feed, and bounce back and forth on street versus topo moving maps all day long. Thats pretty much what day trail riders and expo travelers need. Perfect situational awareness. Intuitive moving map so I can use orienteering to validate my route off road is all I need. Topo is probably the better tool if you are doing trail/off road PLANNING, but once you leave the pavement, Overland Navigator is the hands down winner.

I know that Craig is working on some nice to have features based on beta tester requests. I can't wait to see how he can make the software even better. I'm stuck in Iraq right now, but can't wait to get back and take my Rover out with Overland Navigator and start trail riding with moving map. How cool is that? :victory:

DavidG

05-06-2009, 03:03 AM

Overlander, what model Toughbook are you running Overland Navigator on?

overlander

05-06-2009, 04:41 AM

I have a CF-18. My Defender has a car computer installed though, with a 7" touchscreen, which will be my main application for use of Overland Navigator. Any laptop with a touchscreen however, mounted in an expo vehicle, would be a perfect application of Overland Navigator. Also keep in mind that for an expo vehicle install, you don't need to have a touchscreen. it's not a requirement. There are multiple kinds of install scenarios that one can use, to include just using the laptop touchpad. touchscreens are the ideal though. and for the cost of a hand held gps with the way to small screen for vehicle use, someone can add a 5"-7" vehicle touchscreen to their rig. They come with long monitor cables, and the touchscreen hooks up to the laptop with a usb cable. That, a usb gps and a small inverter for the laptop power source, and one can have a car pc with moving map.

daverami

05-06-2009, 03:56 PM

Looking for good hardware solutions for use with Overland Navigator. Would like a netbook solution and would like feedback on anyone out there with ASUS, ACER, or other good choices.
I have an Asus EeePC 1000HE. It works quite well with Garmin nRoute, Overland Navigator, and OziExplorer. I have my Garmin GPS attached to it. It's power connection is either 12V adaptor or 110V AC from my in-cab inverter. The screen is great. When it is really bright, there is always some glare, but the 1000HE screen is anti-glare. All hardware is attached by RAM mounts.

Here's a pic of my setup.

http://davidramirez.clearwire.net/GPS_HAM Setup.jpg

cactusjk

05-06-2009, 06:46 PM

I think the Asus 1000 HE looks like a great way to go. Do you recommend 2G ram? I know the T91 is coming out (at about 2x the cost of the 1000 HE!) so I am inclined to go the 1000 route for now.

I have an Asus EeePC 1000HE. It works quite well with Garmin nRoute, Overland Navigator, and OziExplorer. I have my Garmin GPS attached to it. It's power connection is either 12V adaptor or 110V AC from my in-cab inverter. The screen is great. When it is really bright, there is always some glare, but the 1000HE screen is anti-glare. All hardware is attached by RAM mounts.

Here's a pic of my setup.

http://davidramirez.clearwire.net/GPS_HAM Setup.jpg

cactusjk

05-06-2009, 06:52 PM

What type of RAM mount and arm do you use?

I think the Asus 1000 HE looks like a great way to go. Do you recommend 2G ram? I know the T91 is coming out (at about 2x the cost of the 1000 HE!) so I am inclined to go the 1000 route for now.

daverami

05-06-2009, 10:27 PM

From what I read about the 1000HE, I didn't even bother with the 1Gig of RAM. I ordered 2 gigs when I bought it and put it in.

This is what I used for the mount:
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045086066045049051056045083087049/Default.aspx
All the separate parts are broken down.

I didn't need to use the double swing arm. I took it apart and just used a single.

I found the kit on Ebay for 100 bucks.

I used the Tough Tray II for my 1000HE.
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045050051052045054/Default.aspx
The regular Tough Tray that came with it is too big.

esh

05-07-2009, 12:21 AM

cactusjk

05-10-2009, 02:57 PM

Do any of the netbooks allow you to store Overland Navigator maps on SD cards? The Asus 1000 HE has a 160G hd. Any problems with a traditional hd vs solid state?

craig

05-10-2009, 08:28 PM

Looks very nice!

Night mode- I've seen this in Ozi, IIRC. Overlay red or blue to ease night vision. Does this exist?

Also about data set integration- Does ON allow for, say, the satellite data to exist on a 32G CF card and not require me to "install" into the typical map data directory?

I am running an Itronix ruggedized tablet- touchscreen, works great for this type of application. Problem is I have limited space with a 40G drive (it is ruggedized with some unique connections and I haven't found an upgrade for it yet- not your typical laptop drive). However the unit has a few flash slots, including CF.

(would also love to see it for Android and Linux!)

We've been discussing night mode internally, but haven't come to any firm conclusions on how we want to support it yet.

Each map series can be installed in it's own directory so you can put all topos in one directory and all satellite imagery in another directory. If you were to buy AZ topos and UT topos they'd all have to be installed to the same directory (and the installer would automatically enforce this).

Craig

cactusjk

05-10-2009, 08:37 PM

So it sounds like the maps can reside on CF cards as long as they are in the same directory. Are large cards available for Asus, etc?

We've been discussing night mode internally, but haven't come to any firm conclusions on how we want to support it yet.

Each map series can be installed in it's own directory so you can put all topos in one directory and all satellite imagery in another directory. If you were to buy AZ topos and UT topos they'd all have to be installed to the same directory (and the installer would automatically enforce this).

Craig

craig

05-10-2009, 08:43 PM

Do any of the netbooks allow you to store Overland Navigator maps on SD cards? The Asus 1000 HE has a 160G hd. Any problems with a traditional hd vs solid state?

I haven't tried one myself, but there shouldn't be any problem using Overland Navigator with maps stored on an SSD. In fact it should work well, possibly even better than a traditional hard drive. Maps should load faster because SSDs are approximately 100x faster than traditional HDDs. SSDs are resistant to wear and tear from dust, bumps, and vibrations. Wear and tear to an SSD is typically caused by repeated write operations. Since the map data is read only it won't cause any write operations making the SSD an ideal place to store Overland Navigator maps.

Craig

craig

05-10-2009, 08:44 PM

So it sounds like the maps can reside on CF cards as long as they are in the same directory. Are large cards available for Asus, etc?

Yes, the maps can be installed on any drive as long as there is enough room for them to be installed. I've tested with a USB hard drive and that works fine.

Overland Navigator expects that if you install the maps that they are all present all the time. You can't put AZ on one card and NM on another and swap them in/out.

If you install all maps or all satellite imagery to a removable CF card and you forget to insert the card, Overland Navigator will show a black screen (no maps).

Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to the question about large CF cards off the top of my head.

cactusjk

05-10-2009, 08:59 PM

Thanks. The Asus has a 160G but am not sure of how these hds hold up in the truck vs a solid state drive.

Yes, the maps can be installed on any drive as long as there is enough room for them to be installed. I've tested with a USB hard drive and that works fine.

Overland Navigator expects that if you install the maps that they are all present all the time. You can't put AZ on one card and NM on another and swap them in/out.

If you install all maps or all satellite imagery to a removable CF card and you forget to insert the card, Overland Navigator will show a black screen (no maps).

Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to the question about large CF cards off the top of my head.

cactusjk

05-10-2009, 09:00 PM

While I'm on a roll it looks like there is a single USB cable I can use to connect my 60csx to the Asus vice serial, etc?

esh

05-10-2009, 09:17 PM

It should work via purely USB, or is this not the case with ON? When selecting ports in TOPO! I can choose between USB (kind of an auto-select from then on) and traditional COM ports.

Don't want to make assumptions, but not having to deal with the extra bulk of converters and sometimes flaky drivers for them has been heavenly.

edit: Craig, thanks for the replies. It is awesome having direct communication with product development! :) I enjoy this kind of thing at work with open source network management packages we run.

craig

05-11-2009, 09:08 AM

Thanks. The Asus has a 160G but am not sure of how these hds hold up in the truck vs a solid state drive.

An SSD is more resistent to vibrations, bumps, and dust. However, a regular laptop hard drive is going to last a VERY long time before it fails. I've used one for over 5 years w/o failure offroad. I'd encourage you to use what you have now and upgrade later if you determine it is a problem.

craig

05-11-2009, 09:21 AM

While I'm on a roll it looks like there is a single USB cable I can use to connect my 60csx to the Asus vice serial, etc?

The Garmin 60Csx connected with a USB cable only speaks the Garmin proprietary binary protocol. Garmin doesn't offer any means to use a USB cable to create a serial connection (virtual COM port) that communicates via NMEA0183.

You have two options that I'm aware of:
1. Buy a Garmin serial cable and also buy a USB to serial adapter cable.
2. Buy Fransson GPS Gate and use it to convert the Garmin binary protocol data to standard NMEA0183 data on a virtual COM port.

Alternatively, you can buy a GPS Puck with the same SIRF III chipset as the 60CSx has for about $35. For example, the Globalsat BU-353 (http://spatialminds.com/BU353-GlobalSat-BU353-WaterProof-USB-GPS/A/B000V5TV22.htm).

Craig

cactusjk

05-11-2009, 02:25 PM

Thanks! Just ordered the software.

The Garmin 60Csx connected with a USB cable only speaks the Garmin proprietary binary protocol. Garmin doesn't offer any means to use a USB cable to create a serial connection (virtual COM port) that communicates via NMEA0183.

You have two options that I'm aware of:
1. Buy a Garmin serial cable and also buy a USB to serial adapter cable.
2. Buy Fransson GPS Gate and use it to convert the Garmin binary protocol data to standard NMEA0183 data on a virtual COM port.

Alternatively, you can buy a GPS Puck with the same SIRF III chipset as the 60CSx has for about $35. For example, the Globalsat BU-353 (http://spatialminds.com/BU353-GlobalSat-BU353-WaterProof-USB-GPS/A/B000V5TV22.htm).

Craig

craig

05-14-2009, 07:18 PM

Thanks! Just ordered the software.

No problem. Thank you for supporting Overland Navigator.

cactusjk

05-16-2009, 09:43 PM

Has anyone tried the RAM Mount Monopod with a Tough Tray 2? Not sure how stable a monopod would be with a 3# netbook?

cactusjk

05-16-2009, 09:59 PM

Garmin recommended that i use their spanner software to convert to NMEA. They said I could then use the supplied USB cable to connect to the computer. Has anyone else done this?

The Garmin 60Csx connected with a USB cable only speaks the Garmin proprietary binary protocol. Garmin doesn't offer any means to use a USB cable to create a serial connection (virtual COM port) that communicates via NMEA0183.

You have two options that I'm aware of:
1. Buy a Garmin serial cable and also buy a USB to serial adapter cable.
2. Buy Fransson GPS Gate and use it to convert the Garmin binary protocol data to standard NMEA0183 data on a virtual COM port.

Alternatively, you can buy a GPS Puck with the same SIRF III chipset as the 60CSx has for about $35. For example, the Globalsat BU-353 (http://spatialminds.com/BU353-GlobalSat-BU353-WaterProof-USB-GPS/A/B000V5TV22.htm).

Craig

cactusjk

05-17-2009, 02:04 PM

Craig - I saw this covered on your forum.

Garmin recommended that i use their spanner software to convert to NMEA. They said I could then use the supplied USB cable to connect to the computer. Has anyone else done this?

craig

05-18-2009, 05:30 AM

Craig - I saw this covered on your forum.

Just as an FYI, I tried unsuccessfully to use the spanner software on my Vista 32 laptop and a Garmin 60CSx. Because of that, I now believe the only options are to use Franson GPSGate or the Garmin PC Interface cable.

Craig

craig

05-18-2009, 05:33 AM

Has anyone tried the RAM Mount Monopod with a Tough Tray 2? Not sure how stable a monopod would be with a 3# netbook?

Not that I'm aware of. I use a monopod with my very lightweight Tuftab and while secure it moves a little when going down a particularly rocky/bumpy/washboarded trail. I think you'd probably be better off with a floor mount, but I'd contact RAM directly.

RAM has excellent customer service. If you send them an email explaining what you want to do, they'll respond back with a list of part numbers and links to PDF files that explain each part. You can then order the parts from one of their resellers.

Craig

cactusjk

05-19-2009, 01:30 AM

RAM swears by it. Rated at 4 lbs. I'll give it a try.

Not that I'm aware of. I use a monopod with my very lightweight Tuftab and while secure it moves a little when going down a particularly rocky/bumpy/washboarded trail. I think you'd probably be better off with a floor mount, but I'd contact RAM directly.

RAM has excellent customer service. If you send them an email explaining what you want to do, they'll respond back with a list of part numbers and links to PDF files that explain each part. You can then order the parts from one of their resellers.

Craig

craig

05-19-2009, 02:58 PM

I think the key is finding a very rigid surface to mount it on. My dash is what is flexing, not the RAM mount itself. I bet it will work great.

Craig

daverami

05-20-2009, 03:35 AM

Garmin recommended that i use their spanner software to convert to NMEA. They said I could then use the supplied USB cable to connect to the computer. Has anyone else done this?

I use spanner with my USB capable Garmin GPSMap 76Csx. It works great. I've used it with Overland Navigator, nRoute, and will be trying it out on OziExplorer here shortly.

cactusjk

05-20-2009, 04:49 AM

Sounds good. I ordered a GlobalSat as a backup.

I use spanner with my USB capable Garmin GPSMap 76Csx. It works great. I've used it with Overland Navigator, nRoute, and will be trying it out on OziExplorer here shortly.

craig

05-20-2009, 06:23 AM

I use spanner with my USB capable Garmin GPSMap 76Csx. It works great. I've used it with Overland Navigator, nRoute, and will be trying it out on OziExplorer here shortly.

Interesting. The 76CSx and the 60CSx are essentially the same. I'll have to give it another go. Ditching the PC interface cable is what a lot of our customers are looking for.

cactusjk

05-23-2009, 03:15 AM

I now have the tough tray 2. What arms did you use? The flex arm long or short? Thanks!

From what I read about the 1000HE, I didn't even bother with the 1Gig of RAM. I ordered 2 gigs when I bought it and put it in.

This is what I used for the mount:
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045086066045049051056045083087049/Default.aspx
All the separate parts are broken down.

I didn't need to use the double swing arm. I took it apart and just used a single.

I found the kit on Ebay for 100 bucks.

I used the Tough Tray II for my 1000HE.
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045050051052045054/Default.aspx
The regular Tough Tray that came with it is too big.

daverami

05-25-2009, 04:01 PM

I now have the tough tray 2. What arms did you use? The flex arm long or short? Thanks!

This is what I used: http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045086066045049051056045083087049/Default.aspx

Works well, except there is some road vibration, so I made a 1/2" bracket from 18 GA sheet metal and attached it to the top of the female pole to under the dash. It's all out of the way of the passenger with plenty of room still in the Tacoma.

cactusjk

05-31-2009, 07:00 PM

Any recommendations on what satellite imagery disks to load for the western US? I live in AZ and don't necessarily need them all.

craig

06-03-2009, 02:51 PM

For the satellite imagery to work you'll need to run the installer.

Regards,
Craig

cactusjk

06-03-2009, 03:01 PM

Assume the installer is on sat disk 1?

For the satellite imagery to work you'll need to run the installer.

Regards,
Craig

craig

06-04-2009, 07:26 AM

Yes. The installer is on Sat disk 1. It will autoplay when you insert the disk.

Basic installation instructions are on the insert that is included in the Overland Navigator software tin.

Complete, step by step, instructions with color screenshots of each step are available in the User Guide PDF that is installed along with the Overland Navigator software.

If you have any questions, please send an email to support@spatialminds.com. I'm happy to help, but don't always check the forums.

Regards,
Craig

cactusjk

06-06-2009, 12:51 AM

Loaded perfectly just like all of your software! Great products and support!

Yes. The installer is on Sat disk 1. It will autoplay when you insert the disk.

Basic installation instructions are on the insert that is included in the Overland Navigator software tin.

Complete, step by step, instructions with color screenshots of each step are available in the User Guide PDF that is installed along with the Overland Navigator software.

If you have any questions, please send an email to support@spatialminds.com. I'm happy to help, but don't always check the forums.

Regards,
Craig

offroad_nomad

06-12-2009, 01:01 PM

Craig,

I received my order, Thanks. That classy packaging is a nice touch.

cactusjk

06-12-2009, 03:44 PM

Agree - packaging is unique.

Craig,

I received my order, Thanks. That classy packaging is a nice touch.

craig

06-12-2009, 08:46 PM

:)

The tin can hold 3 disks. That way you can bring the software and maps for a particular region along on a trip in a single tin that offers pretty good protection.

Craig

craig

06-13-2009, 02:08 AM

Chris just sent me this photo he snapped of the packaging. Thanks Chris!

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29442&d=1244858889

craig

08-04-2009, 05:13 AM

We've just completed topographic map-packs for:

Ohio
Minnesota
Missouri
Illinois
Alabama
Louisiana
Alabama
Georgia
Iowa
Kentucky
Indiana

These are in addition to our existing map-packs:
Washington
Oregon
California (North)
California (Central)
California (South)
Nevada
Arizona
Utah
Montana (North)
Montana (South)
Wyoming
Colorado
New Mexico
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas (North)
Texas (South)
Mid-Atlantic Region (District of Columbia, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware).

Satellite Imagery Packs and US Wide Packs (1:250/1:100k only) packs are also available.

DavidG

08-04-2009, 02:54 PM

Very nice!

craig

10-01-2009, 07:43 PM

We've just released map-packs for NY/NJ, PA, NC/SC, WI, and MI for sale through our webstore. http://spatialminds.com

The total list of map-packs that are available now includes:

Global - Satellite Imagery - Course scale only - This is not aerial photography
United States - 1:100k and 1:250k maps for the entire US. Does not include detailed 1:24k maps.

DETAILED MAP-PACKS: Include 1:250k, 1:100k, and detailed 1:24k USGS maps.

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
California Central
California North
California South
Colorado
Georgia
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mid Atlantic Region (DC, VA, WV, MD, DE)
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana North
Montana South
Nebraska
Nevada
New Mexico
New York & New Jersey
North & South Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas North
Texas South
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin
Wyoming

TACODOC

12-01-2009, 02:20 AM

Just purchased the software, satellite maps and SoCal maps for my new netbook based nav system :drool:

craig

12-18-2009, 03:34 AM

Thanks Dave! Just drop me an email at support@spatialminds.com if you have any questions. Happy to help. :)

Craig

TACODOC

12-22-2009, 07:32 PM

Thanks Dave! Just drop me an email at support@spatialminds.com if you have any questions. Happy to help. :)

Craig

Great news folks, I have this working on a brand new Samsung N130 netbook with the Globalsat Sirf III GPS puck and Windows 7 Starter!!! :wings:

daverami

12-23-2009, 05:11 AM

You will be quite happy Dave. I've had the product for many months now on my Asus netbook. Works great.

Craig is awesome about helping with problems and figuring out configuration stuff.

I hope his business is doing well. He has a fine product in my opinion.

Trail Monkey

12-23-2009, 11:13 AM

Craig

can i purchase the entire library of maps and sat imagery, at a package price? or do i have to buy each seperately right now?

thx

craig

01-17-2010, 09:02 AM

Craig

can i purchase the entire library of maps and sat imagery, at a package price? or do i have to buy each seperately right now?

thx

Oh man... I just realized that I have ExPo setup to deliver to an old gmail address and see that there are some really old posts in here that I didn't reply to. Very sorry about that.

In the future, if anyone has any pre-sales questions please send an email to sales@spatialminds.com. If you need tech support, please send an email to support@spatialminds.com.

As for the question above... I don't have any package pricing, but if you are serious about purchasing the *entire* library of maps give me a call and I'll work you a deal. In general though, there isn't any package pricing.

Craig

cactusjk

01-23-2010, 11:05 PM

What do you recommend for using a single BU 353 Globalsat GPS for several programs at one time such as Overland Navigator, National Geographic Topo, etc?

craig

01-24-2010, 06:31 PM

I don't use a port splitter, but I know that others are using both the free XPort and the commercial GPSGate. I've used GPSGate as a simulator, but not as a splitter.

GPSGate won't close the COM port if a clean exit isn't performed. This is a problem in a development environment, but would rarely if ever be a problem with normal usage.

I'd try XPort first, since it is free. If that gives you any trouble then give the low cost GPSGate a try.

Craig

overlander

01-26-2010, 12:26 PM

I used xport all the time with no issues.

craig

06-24-2010, 04:43 AM

Overland Navigator version 2.0.1 has been released. See the release thread here (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=652902#post652902).

craig

07-09-2010, 11:27 PM

Overland Navigator now has complete USGS Topographic map coverage for the US Lower 48. Florida and New England Map-packs are now available in our webstore.

http://spatialminds.com

WildHare

01-16-2011, 11:59 PM

Will you be releasing high resolution satellite imagery packs in the future?

Thanks,

-Dan

craig

01-17-2011, 05:14 AM

Will you be releasing high resolution satellite imagery packs in the future?

Thanks,

-Dan

Thanks for the interest Dan.

Possibly in the future, but right now the only thing on the roadmap is the next version of the software (A major update). Once that is complete, I'll evaluate the list of requested features and decide what to work on next. Wish I had 5 of me!

If you submit this request to support@spatialminds.com, it will be added to our feature request tracking system.

craig

03-22-2012, 09:47 AM

Version 3.0 of Overland Navigator is going to have a 100% transparent design process where the community is invited to give feedback on the design and as the software is created. Everything in the existing application is getting re-evaluated and redesigned including the supported hardware platform(s?). If you'd like to participate in the discussion of the *ideal* in-vehicle navigation system please head over to https://www.facebook.com/overlandnavigator and jump right in by voting for the hardware platform you think we should target.

Don't stop there though. I'll begin the actual design, and design review process once the hardware platform has been selected. Once the design is completed, I'll code a handful of features at a time and make an alpha release available to everyone. You can try it, then provide input and feedback that we'll use to direct the next round of improvements and features. The aim being to perform rapid development and get a lot of community input as the product is developed so we can make course corrections before getting too far into the application.

This is your chance to engage in a dialogue directly with the software developer that will write the code.

Craig

overlander

03-22-2012, 12:24 PM

sweet!

theksmith

04-30-2012, 12:22 PM

so is Overland Navigator for the PC (2.1) a dead-end product?

- it's no longer being sold as a boxed product, and there is no online store yet to purchase it in download form...
- the new iOS release is named version 3.0 instead of it being a separate product...

so have you abandoned those of us that have no interest in tablets, nor could give 2 sh!ts about any mac product ever made?

craig

04-30-2012, 02:55 PM

theksmith

04-30-2012, 03:29 PM

No, I have not abandoned Windows. Overland Navigator 3.0 for iOS will be developed first, then the Windows version. At this time, the Windows version is about 30% complete.

The new online store with digital downloads should be up and running this week. Amazon webstore tech support misunderstood a request I made asking "How I close my store when I'm ready?" as "Please close my store now". This caught me flat footed and I'm scrambling to get the new store online.

Craig

awesome! (that you are keeping up a PC version - not that Amazon hosed you, sorry to hear that, I've been in the exact same situation with a service vendor before.)

do you ever anticipate making vector-based maps with routing capability an option? what about higher detail aerial/sat imagery? 3D views? integration with an open source street map provider?

thanks!