Which Toyota would you pick?

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Hey everyone,

well this is my first time post in this section. I have an fj-40 and I have decided to go to school in colorado and IMO the 40 will not suit my needs there.

I am intersted in either a 4 runner or 4 door tacoma.
1. Are there any technical problems that stand out on either one?

2. Which one that you would prefer to take from CO to AZ to MEX ect.?

3.Which one has the greater amount of aftermarket parts?

This would be a truck that would be left relatively stock cause I have the 40 for the trail.
I would prefer the 4 runner but i'm open to both. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Brendan

[Kermit]

Both have an enormous amount of aftermarket.

If it was me, I would go for the 4 Door Tacoma, nice to keep the dirty gear separated from the passengers. I had an old 4Runner, that was my only gripe about it.

[Redline]

Well you didn't say what years Tacoma or 4runner you are considering... I assume a late model used car?

I'm partial to my new 4Runner but I believe the Tacomas are more popular. There are more accessories for Tacomas but I guess that matters less if it will remain basically stock. If it's a daily driver "car" then it really boils down to what you like, and if a wagon or pickup is more suited to your lifestyle.

Against the 4runner is that the latest 4th Generation rigs from 2003-up are very low to the ground and almost require a lift for anything other than mall crawling.

[BogusBlake]

If it was me, I would go for the 4 Door Tacoma, nice to keep the dirty gear separated from the passengers.

X2 for exactly the same reason.

You can leave the Taco pretty close to stock for a DD and still be plenty capable.
What year 4Runner?

[Motorvated]

4-door TACO.

[Schattenjager]

access cab tacoma -unless you have kids - makes it so easy to load gear without having to walk / work around an open door. They have about the same room too considering the seats etc in the 4 door. 4 doors look a lot cooler, however - if that is important to you

[Jacket]

I had a couple of Runners before I got my Tacoma, and both models have their advantages. A lot of the decision comes down to the bed versus SUV preference. I wanted/needed the external truck bed - more versatility for gear, bikes, etc. And with the 4 door option on the Tacoma, you still have plenty of interior space.

Can't go wrong either way though.

Edit: Oh yea, and you should sell me your 40. You won't need 2 trucks in school - better to have more beer money :shakin:

[Nullifier]

I would probably consider a tundra to use as a tow rig while I was in colorado but that is just my.02. the older style can be with a v-8 for towing the 40 and offer all the comfort of a new truck. access cab had 4 doors for easy access for gear if you are not worried about seating more then 2 people. They also had a c.c version as well.

[toyota_jon]

Both have an enormous amount of aftermarket.

If it was me, I would go for the 4 Door Tacoma, nice to keep the dirty gear separated from the passengers. I had an old 4Runner, that was my only gripe about it.

x2 if you're more into the outdoors. if you're more into family and city you might want to consider the 4runner. but some more details about what your intentions with the truck might yield some better suggestions.

[DaveInDenver]

I'm wondering why the 40 won't suit your needs? Where are you going to school? Anyway, I'd just drive the FJ40 and save your money. That's just me, though.

[offroad_nomad]

Are you interested in a new or used truck? If a used 4Runner is on your list, might I suggest a 3rd Gen with a stock rear E-Locker installed. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the '99 or '00 was the last year for this option.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

I'm wondering why the 40 won't suit your needs? Where are you going to school? Anyway, I'd just drive the FJ40 and save your money. That's just me, though.

It just seems uneconomical to take a 10 mpg car back and forth every few months, its also pretty uncomfortable to drive for long trips. I'm going to let my little brother use it when I leave, so its not up for sale sorry guys. I'm going to CU Boulder also. I really like the new 4 door tacos but it seems like I would put a camper shell or tonneau cover on it just to keep the snow out.
thanks for the input everyone.

[Motorvated]

DROOOOL...that thing is amazing. I'll trade you my moms brand new toyota highlander for it HAHA

[DaveInDenver]

DROOOOL...that thing is amazing. I'll trade you my moms brand new toyota highlander for it HAHA
Sure does make the '78 Ford LTD, the '83 Civic and beater '72 Ford F100 I had as a younger man look like crap! Heck, I'm 36 and been out of school now a bit more than 5 years and my '91 pickup looks terrible compared to that... Man, it really would be shame to leave that behind.

[Motorvated]

Yea and sadly..if my mom came home to find out i traded a brand HER new highlander HAHA well..it woudlnt be good for me

[Photog]

If you take a truck to the Univ, everyone will want you to move their stuff, from place to place. Less likely to have that prob with a 4Runner.

Get a 1999 4Runner, with e-locker. It is the tallest of the factory 4Runners, and the e-locker will get you through the winters.

Maybe the best option is: Spend a lot less money, and put some better seats in your FJ-40, and use it for school. YOu can buy some nice seats and a tanker full of fuel for the price of another vehicle.

Your FJ-40 gets 10mpg, and something else might get 20mpg. You are only talkin about 10mpg difference.

I'm thinking you just want another vehicle, and the school thing is just an excuse to get one.;)

[mtnbike28]

I have all three right now, 98 4runner, 02 dc taco and 74 40 (very rusty) and would say I like the Taco. Better power and fuel mileage than the 4runner. However, if you want to camp inside the rig, the 4rnr is hands down the winner. I have a shell and hard ARE cover for the bed on the Taco, great to lock up the dirty stuff, but no way to sleep in it at 6 feet tall. I understand why you are looking though, 5 hours or so is all I can stand in the 40... rain, snow and highway speeds in a 40 can make the ride scary! Good luck, Jay in NY

[AZ '83 fj-40]

I'm thinking you just want another vehicle, and the school thing is just an excuse to get one.;)


Is it that obvious?:wings:

mtnbike28,

I'm 6'4" so that could be a problem, haha

[Ridgewalker]

Forget the newer, more economical vehicle in Boulder. After you have driven around in Boulder for a while, you will realize you are better off riding the free bus or getting a bicycle you don't care if it gets stolen. Driving in Boulder is a frustration (I lived there from about '78 till 2000, actually a mile up in the mountains:oops: ).
The FJ40 is quite usable in the mountains near Boulder. You will also get lots of looks of envy from everyone driving it.:wings:
Invest your money now and save the new vehicle for when you get old and cannot get beat up so much.:gunt:
Best of luck on your decision.

[Redline]

Just wanting a new vehicle and more comfort counts for a lot ☺

I had what must have been a much more comfortable (than FJ40) car in my '05 Rubicon. It was conservatively built (3-in lift) but my 6'2" fame didn't like to be in the saddle for hours at a time, so I had a new car I didn’t want to drive on trips. I changed to a new 4Runner which is a pleasure to drive on and off highway. It was a "saddle-sore" test, but I managed to return from the ExPo Trophy in one long day, 800-miles. I have never owned another 4x4 that I would have been very comfortable in for that long. My wife's VW Golf TDI (at three times the MPG) or my BMW GS moto would be fine alternates for such an 'iron butt' trip.

Can't go wrong with a new/newer Toyota. The ergonomics were better for me in a 4Runner (V8 w/power seat) than a new Tacoma. But again, a 4th Gen 4Runner is low stock, and a stock Tacoma with a locker will be much more capable (because of clearance) than a 4Runner. Having said that, I was amazed how well the stock low-rider 4Runner worked with traction control, though the thin stock skids were easily dented. Now it works better. 4Runners do have the advantage of a shorter wheelbase. 110-in vs. 128” I believe.



I have all three right now, 98 4runner, 02 dc taco and 74 40 (very rusty) and would say I like the Taco. Better power and fuel mileage than the 4runner. However, if you want to camp inside the rig, the 4rnr is hands down the winner. I have a shell and hard ARE cover for the bed on the Taco, great to lock up the dirty stuff, but no way to sleep in it at 6 feet tall. I understand why you are looking though, 5 hours or so is all I can stand in the 40... rain, snow and highway speeds in a 40 can make the ride scary! Good luck, Jay in NY

[RHINO]

in my expierence they are both the same in everything, relibale, eftermarket,, ect ect. i chose the dbl cab cause i like having a bed.

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I dunno...........

If I had an FJ40................

I don't think I would be complaining!

And when the Very Heavy Snow falls........you will Really wish you had it!

If I wanted another type of vehicle for commuting.........I would just figure out how to save up and buy it ......... so that I could be so happy to save ALL the miles on my beloved FJ40...........!

First off........

check out getting collector car insurance for your FJ.

I pay less than $100 per year for insurance on one of my collector cars and it allows me to drive 7,500 miles per year!

Having a collector car.....and it's insurance.....is the best thing going!!!!!!!!!!

And nobody even thinks about it!


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[Martinjmpr]

Hmmm...another Buff here ('00, BA History) ;)

Where are you going to be living? A lot of people who go to school in Boulder can't afford to live there (that's another soapbox topic of mine but I'll try to stay focused here...:rolleyes: )

If you are living in Boulder, I'd say keep the '40 and buy a good bicycle. You can get around Boulder just fine with a bicycle. A new(er) truck is going to cost you money, I'd say do yourself a favor and keep the money for other stuff (like 'wheeling and fixing up your '40.) There are lots of '40's in Colorado, so you will be in good company.

Now, if you can't afford to live in Boulder (or just aren't willing to make the compromises it takes to live there) and you are living in Lafayette, Broomfield, Marshall, Longmont or whatever, then commuting costs can play a part (although remember that as a CU student you'll get an RTD - bus - Pass, at least I did when I was there.) In that case, I'd find a beater 2wd car or truck and drive that.

Before you make that choice, though, tally up all the costs. When I was at CU, the cheapest parking pass you could get was around $125 per semester (and don't even think about parking on the street. You could miss half a day's worth of classes just looking for a parking space and still end up with a ticket.)

If you're just looking for an excuse to get a different vehicle, then just get whatever you want, but don't think that the FJ40 will be inadequate for Colorado, and don't forget to take into account all the costs of having another vehicle. If you crunch the real-world numbers, you may be in for a surprise. As the old saying goes "the cheapest car is the one you already have." ;)

Good Luck!

[Redline]

Brendan, have you test driven anything yet?

What years are you looking at? New?

[taco chaser]

The double cabs are nice , but I think they only came with an auto tranny, so if you are looking to be towing all the time go 5 speed manual whicw you can find in a 4 runner or ext. cab taco. The 4runner is also 3 linked in the rear which would put you one step closer if you decide to link it all the way around some day but coil springs are not the best for hauling but easier to make it a long travel suspension in the rear. It's a toss up. FJ40's are solid, they just take alot more work to make them comfortable for long trips but personally I'd go with the 40 cause I'm over vehicles with OBD.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Thanks for all the inside info on the parking in Boulder. I haven't test driven anything yet. It would be nice to find something from 03 or 04 and up. This wouldn't really be just for driving around boulder, more of a way to get out on the weekends (especially for snowboarding). I like the idea of a taco with the e locker and some sort of cover for the rear for all the dirty gear and boards.

As for the 40.The idea about the collector car insurance seems to be pretty sweet, although there seems to be a catch of some sort (no mods or excessive distance driving or something).

I'm really looking forward to move up there, going to live in the dorms for freshman year. Not really sure after that but it seems to be pretty expensive to live in boulder, housing wise.

Thanks,

Brendan

[AZ '83 fj-40]

hey guys,

Got back from Colorado on Sat. really like the campus. I now see the need for a bike. I really can't decide what to do. I would be cheeper to take the 40but alot slower, peaks at about 55 or 60, I was wondering how long it could travel at that speed w/o overheating or some other mech. problem. If I go with another rig it would probably be a double cab taco. So i can throw the bike or board in the back.

(On a side note) I had been wondering how subaru was able to stay in business, everyone in boulder owns one:D

brendan

[nickw]

hey guys,

Got back from Colorado on Sat. really like the campus. I now see the need for a bike. I really can't decide what to do. I would be cheeper to take the 40but alot slower, peaks at about 55 or 60, I was wondering how long it could travel at that speed w/o overheating or some other mech. problem. If I go with another rig it would probably be a double cab taco. So i can throw the bike or board in the back.

(On a side note) I had been wondering how subaru was able to stay in business, everyone in boulder owns one:D

brendan

Dude, 40 series in the summer with the top off at college = chicks begging to go for a ride. Enough said, lets close this discussion!

[TACODOC]

If you dont plan on doing HARD trails, the Tacoma TRD Sport 4Dr (long bed) is hard to beat. I wish I had the longer bed, until I have to turn around on the trail and then I remember why I got the short box!

.02

[DaveInDenver]

Dude, 40 series in the summer with the top off at college = chicks begging to go for a ride. Enough said, lets close this discussion!
Oh heck yeah. My wife loved our FJ40 when it was operational and if ours had been 1/8th as nice as Brendan's, we'd probably still have it.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Dude, 40 series in the summer with the top off at college = chicks begging to go for a ride. Enough said, lets close this discussion!

DUDE, it works now and I'm not even in college yet:chowtime: . this is the great equilizer for the 40. Picture this 5 girls, my friend and myself in the 40 with the top on.

[Maddmatt]

DUDE, it works now and I'm not even in college yet:chowtime: . this is the great equilizer for the 40. Picture this 5 girls, my friend and myself in the 40 with the top on.

As yet another Buff ('87-'92) I have to say that you are INSANE to already own a 40 and even think about going to school in Boulder without it. That and a mountain bike is all you need......

-Matt

[devinsixtyseven]

01' Aero, CU...

Get yourself a decent MTB (and some pads), a longboard (with wheels), and park the 40 except for Friday and Saturday nights (and some Thursdays and Sundays), and weekend trips. BTW with roommates you can rent in BLDR for 350-500/mo off campus, if you live somewhere like the Hill or similar you won't need to drive to class, just point the board downhill...it's actually quicker than a bike or skates since it doesn't need a lock and comes in with you.

Don't sweat the second rig. A lot of people carpool to the lifts, 10mpg and a short wheelbase is no way to attack the passes in a snowstorm. You'll meet a lot of people with AWD cars, and quite a few with already built Tacos and Runners to get to the hill. Bring a few bucks for gas and you're GTG.

Besides, unless you have a ready financial solution, you can drive the 40 and come out of college debt free vs loan and vehicle debt on a second rig. Dunno what your situation is, but in the long run like Dave and others have mentioned you're better off saving now and going big later.

The 40 is ready to rock, and it'll be easier to park than anything else, particularly a Tundra ;).

Or...if you need more space, you could get a Chaser :p.

-Sean

[AZ '83 fj-40]

yeah, I trying to think about the logistics of getting the 40 there. Once its there it would be great. When I was there alot over people were riding long boards, seems like it would be fun. My inability to stop might hold me back on that one, but ill try.

The other thing I was wondering about was where they hide the gas stations in Boulder?

[Martinjmpr]

yeah, I trying to think about the logistics of getting the 40 there. Once its there it would be great. When I was there alot over people were riding long boards, seems like it would be fun. My inability to stop might hold me back on that one, but ill try.

The other thing I was wondering about was where they hide the gas stations in Boulder?

There's a bunch of them along Broadway. At least one near the campus (I think it's a 7-11 store that sells gas.) Not many downtown, is that what you're talking about? I often bought gas for my bike at one of the stations near Table Mesa and Broadway.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Oh, thanks. I guess that I didn't drive far enough down broadway.

[Fireman78]

First off, I must say I really value the views on this forum. A much more mature croud then some other forums I've seen, anyway.. Well ya'll, I sure have a dilema. My wife is sooo going to kill me. I recently sold a very off road modified 2003 4door Tacoma and bought a new Dodge Power Wagon. I read so many good things about the Power Wagons and man they really do kick butt. They are by far the most capable stock pickup ever built. The trouble is, they are EXPENSIVE TO OWN. I figure it's costing me 1000 dollars a month to own it. We just had another baby and now my wife just informed me she's only going to go back to work part time. Crap! Anyhow, I've only had the Power Wagon for 6 months, and now I have to sell it. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome truck, but to be honest it's too much truck and way too spendy. I am thinking about either getting a 97-00' 4Runner or Taco. I have two young kids and a wife and a doggie. I camp and raft and 4-wheel a lot, and I also need this for my daily driver. I REALLY would like an adventure trailer at some point also. My budget is approx 10 - 15 grand. Any suggestions???

[taco chaser]

First off, I must say I really value the views on this forum. A much more mature croud then some other forums I've seen, anyway.. Well ya'll, I sure have a dilema. My wife is sooo going to kill me. I recently sold a very off road modified 2003 4door Tacoma and bought a new Dodge Power Wagon. I read so many good things about the Power Wagons and man they really do kick butt. They are by far the most capable stock pickup ever built. The trouble is, they are EXPENSIVE TO OWN. I figure it's costing me 1000 dollars a month to own it. We just had another baby and now my wife just informed me she's only going to go back to work part time. Crap! Anyhow, I've only had the Power Wagon for 6 months, and now I have to sell it. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome truck, but to be honest it's too much truck and way too spendy. I am thinking about either getting a 97-00' 4Runner or Taco. I have two young kids and a wife and a doggie. I camp and raft and 4-wheel a lot, and I also need this for my daily driver. I REALLY would like an adventure trailer at some point also. My budget is approx 10 - 15 grand. Any suggestions???What about putting the 10 to 15 grand into paying off the Dodge , then refinancing to lower your monthly payment?

[Fireman78]

I wish! , I'm talking about financing the 10 grand. (This would give me a 200 dollar payment.) I figure a 10-12 year old 4 Runner 200 payment, 80 insurance, 200 month gas max.- total- 480 month operating cost, much better than the 1000 month operating cost I have now. I was just asking opionions on 4Runner vrs Tacoma.

[taco chaser]

I wish! , I'm talking about financing the 10 grand. (This would give me a 200 dollar payment.) I figure a 10-12 year old 4 Runner 200 payment, 80 insurance, 200 month gas max.- total- 480 month operating cost, much better than the 1000 month operating cost I have now. I was just asking opionions on 4Runner vrs Tacoma. Oh, I hear you and I'm not one to talk anybody out of going Yota. I would go with a 96 - 2000 4runner considering the family, more space and still a compact, capable trail rig with a 3.4 v6.

[Fireman78]

I am real familiar with the Taco driveline but I am wondering about the 4Runners? They have the center diff lock correct?? How is the durability of that set up opposed to the Tacos set-up?

[neliconcept]

I am real familiar with the Taco driveline but I am wondering about the 4Runners? They have the center diff lock correct?? How is the durability of that set up opposed to the Tacos set-up?

96-00 4runners did have the option for a rear locker like the TRD tacomas, but its not like a TRD package, doesnt have the TRD decals so its a little harder to find if it has the locker or not.

the 01-02s had the center lock basically.

id look for a 99-00 4runner, had cupholders in the center console, a little better interior, and could also come with the option of a locker. if you want a manual then a limited wont have that.

i didnt see your location, that will also factor in how much a 4runner will cost in your area depending on mileage.

same front end as a tacoma basically

[Fireman78]

Thanks a bunch for that info! This will prove to be very helpful. :rappel: oh ya I'm in Albuquerque

[AZ '83 fj-40]

What do you guys think about the FJ cruiser?

[Grim Reaper]

What do you guys think about the FJ cruiser?
I wanted to love that truck. I waited for one to show up at the local dealer. Went down there like a giddy school girl.

Then I sat in it.


Its a nice truck but the visibility I love with my old 4Runner is not there. You sit in a hole. everthing feels like it is at shoulder level. Don't get me worng....It is really nice but I was very disapointed that the from the seat veiw was so bad concidering it being hyped as such an off road monster.

That settled my desire for a FJ80 hopefully by spring as a DD for the wife and family EXPO truck.

[Redline]

Exactly what a buddy told after his test drive with his girlfriend. I didn't think it could be that bad until I drove one myself.



I wanted to love that truck. I waited for one to show up at the local dealer. Went down there like a giddy school girl.

Then I sat in it.


Its a nice truck but the visibility I love with my old 4Runner is not there. You sit in a hole. everthing feels like it is at shoulder level. Don't get me worng....It is really nice but I was very disapointed that the from the seat veiw was so bad concidering it being hyped as such an off road monster.

That settled my desire for a FJ80 hopefully by spring as a DD for the wife and family EXPO truck.

[Grim Reaper]

Exactly what a buddy told after his test drive with his girlfriend. I didn't think it could be that bad until I drove one myself.

Feels like you are looking over a 6ft privacy fence on your tip toes doesn't it?

[AZ '83 fj-40]

really I hadn't heard that, is it that bad cause i'm 6'4" so maybe that would compensate for some of it?

[Ryanmb21]

really I hadn't heard that, is it that bad cause i'm 6'4" so maybe that would compensate for some of it?

I don't think it matter how tall you are, the windows are only so big. I thought sitting in the driver's seat gave me the same perspective as wearing football helmet.

[tacollie]

I would try to put some money into the 40. We used to take my brothers skiing all the time. We did 45-55 all the way up and back whether the roads were bad or not. I got passed that, what I hated was the heaters suck in them. I would put on all my gear on and get in the car and wear it all until we got back to the house. With a decent heater and some good seats the drive from Colorado Springs to Monarch wasn't that bad. I only save about 20 min one way in the taco. If you are worried about gear storage get some racks. Eat the gas mileage. The extra money you spend on getting, maintaining, and insuring a newer car will cost more. For now anyway.

Drive the FJ Cruiser and then make your own decisions. The visibility sucks but it does bother me since it sucks in my taco with gear in my topper.

[Redline]

I agree. I'm 6'2, like to sit tall and straight in the saddle, and didn't care for it (though I thought the new Tacoma seating was a little low too). This drove me to test a 4Runner with power adjustable seat and a V8.



I don't think it matter how tall you are, the windows are only so big. I thought sitting in the driver's seat gave me the same perspective as wearing football helmet.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

I think I really need to get out and drive some of these trucks. The fj cruiser seemed like a cost effective way to a new car. From what a lot of people ive talked to have said, I'm strongly considering a 4 runner. My dads friend was taking about an older one because of power, lift, and some design features. can't seem to recall what year it was, maybe 99 or 00. I also like the '04-'06 but that seems to be harder to find at a low price.

thanks for the help,

Brendan

[Jacket]

You might be able to find a 99 or 00 with a factory rear locker, which would be a huge bonus. I prefer that 3rd gen body style over the new ones, although the 4th gen has grown on me over time. I wouldn't call the 3.4 "powerful", unless you compare it to its predecessor :) It's a nice and capable engine.

[Martinjmpr]

I think I really need to get out and drive some of these trucks. The fj cruiser seemed like a cost effective way to a new car.
Brendan

Not sure what you mean by "cost effective." Last time I checked (which was several months ago) you couldn't touch an FJC in CO for under $25k. And that's used! New ones are $28k+.

But you can get a 4runner for less than that, a lot less if you're willing to go to the older models (which are also easier to find parts and accessories for.)

I don't know what your financial situation is, but to me $28k is anything but "cost effective."

[tacollie]

You can get a base model for $24k. Thats what my buddy paid in October for a 4wd auto 08 here in colorado Springs. That is bare bones. No sliders, roof rack, locker, or atrac.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Not sure what you mean by "cost effective." Last time I checked (which was several months ago) you couldn't touch an FJC in CO for under $25k. And that's used! New ones are $28k+.

But you can get a 4runner for less than that, a lot less if you're willing to go to the older models (which are also easier to find parts and accessories for.)

I don't know what your financial situation is, but to me $28k is anything but "cost effective."


I was finding some FJ's for 17 to 20. 17 seems like a pretty good deal for an '07.

I haven't really found any 4runners for anything less than that. Well 4runners that are under 10 years old. It's been hard to find a '99 or '00 which would seem to be ideal.

Thank you for bringing up the point of CO. I was wondering about how much of a difference there is in car prices, as well as registration, if there is an advantage to doing it in CO, I would go that route. If there really isn't that much of an advantage to CO, I would just buy in AZ.

[Ryanmb21]

http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=139047#post139047

[Grim Reaper]

You can get a base model for $24k. Thats what my buddy paid in October for a 4wd auto 08 here in colorado Springs. That is bare bones. No sliders, roof rack, locker, or atrac.
atrac is a switch. They all have it but they don't all have the switch to activate it.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/archive/index.php/t-85568.html

[Cackalak Han]

atrac is a switch. They all have it but they don't all have the switch to activate it.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/archive/index.php/t-85568.html

Wow, I feel bad for those that shelled out $$ for it.

[durango_60]

I'm really in a quandry as to why a college freshman is considering anything other than a kick a$% 40. You've got plenty of time when your old to worry about things like comfort and speed. Do you want to completely blend into the crowd with a newer fjc/4r/taco or be the guy with the "cool old jeep.":)

[Cackalak Han]

I'm really in a quandry as to why a college freshman is considering anything other than a kick a$% 40. You've got plenty of time when your old to worry about things like comfort and speed. Do you want to completely blend into the crowd with a newer fjc/4r/taco or be the guy with the "cool old jeep.":)

Completely agree. I'd even get something even more run-down in college. I had an old Integra back in the college days, and it was perfect. Good MPG, didn't care if someone threw up in it (which will happen, by the way :D) and endless parking lot door dings. Get like a 94 Toyota truck or 4Runner (4-banger) and just have fun in it without the worries of a nice car. Trust me, if you get a new one, it WILL get trashed.

[Rezarf <><]

Come on up, we have tons of 40's here in Boulder. Not to mention one of TLCA's premiere clubs :D Rising Sun (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/)! Be sure to come over and say hi on our local forum (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/index.php).

I would suggest looking at why you are only getting 10 mpg. You ought to be getting a bit more than that. I can get 15-17mpg with good tuning, gear, and a tail wind ;) Are you V8 or 2F?

The bus system is awesome, you can get everywhere without a vehicle, I would bring the 40 and hoof it locally, bum rides to the powder, and fly frontier home over the holidays(under 100 each way)... just to have my 40 here! :D

Be sure to hit us up when you get here!

Drew

[MB309basket]

I think they only came with an auto tranny, OBD.

Don't tell my wife that. She just bought an 07 TRD with a six speed manual and rear diff lock. The trade off is that they're only avail with a short bed. It has absolutely no mods yet, except bungie cords in the bed to hold groceries in.

[Jacket]

Don't tell my wife that. She just bought an 07 TRD with a six speed manual and rear diff lock. The trade off is that they're only avail with a short bed. It has absolutely no mods yet, except bungie cords in the bed to hold groceries in.
I think he's talking about the previous gen Tacomas. When the Dbl Cab was introduced (2001?), it only came with an Auto transmission.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Hey guys,

Does this sound like a reasonable deal, a 2000 4runner for 12,500. its the SR5.

Options and Accessories
* Power Steering
* Power Brakes
* Power Door Locks
* Power Windows
* AM/FM Stereo Radio
* Cassette Player
* Single CD Player
* Radial Tires
* Gauge Cluster
* Trip Odometer
* Tachometer
* Air Conditioning
* Tilt Steering Wheel
* Cruise Control
* Driver Side Air Bag
* Passenger Side Air Bag
* Front Bucket Seats
* Alloy Wheels
* Clock
* Interval Wipers
* Rear Defroster
* Rear Window Wiper
* Console
* Day/Night Lever
* Dual Sport Mirrors
* Driver Side Remote Mirror
* Cloth Upholstery
* Luggage Rack
* Running Boards

[Ryanmb21]

mileage? engine 4x4?

[Grim Reaper]

www.kbb.com
Personally I would be looking for 96 up with the factory E-Locker and the V6

[AZ '83 fj-40]

There were 103,339 mi on the sticker and it was a V6

[TACODOC]

www.kbb.com
Personally I would be looking for 96 up with the factory E-Locker and the V6

:iagree:

[Martinjmpr]

I would have a very hard time paying over $10k for anything with more than 100k on it. I don't care what it is or how well it's been taken care of, 100k is a lot of miles and $10,000 is just too much money for something with that kind of mileage.

Of course, some people lose their minds with anything that has the word "Toyota" written on it. I've heard of people paying $7500 for an FJ60 with 200k on it, so I guess anything's possible.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Thanks Martinjmpr, thats was what I was hoping to find out.

[AZ '83 fj-40]

Hey everybody,

Time to bring this tread back from the dead.

I've taken everyone's recommendations and spent the last few months searching for a 4th gen. 4runner. There were slim pickings for a long time, then last week someone put a 4runner up for sale a block away from school. :yikes:
It's a V8 limited 4th gen 4runner (not sure on exact year). It has about 43,000 miles and has never been used off-road. Although it has oversized off- road tires (BFG AT).

The price seems reasonable for what its seems to be. I plugged in '04 for the year (it seems to be newer) and it was 1,000 under blue book for the options that I included. I guess you could call the color greenish-blue.

$21,000

that's all it had on the for sale sign.

What I'm really interested in is what you guys think about the price. Maybe a min and max you would use while haggling. my only concern is that there is nothing that makes for a legitimate argument/complaint while haggling.

As for the 40, my parents won't let me take it. It stays in town with my younger brother.

thanks,

Brendan

[Cackalak Han]

Hey everybody,

Time to bring this tread back from the dead.

I've taken everyone's recommendations and spent the last few months searching for a 4th gen. 4runner. There were slim pickings for a long time, then last week someone put a 4runner up for sale a block away from school. :yikes:
It's a V8 limited 4th gen 4runner (not sure on exact year). It has about 43,000 miles and has never been used off-road. Although it has oversized off- road tires (BFG AT).

The price seems reasonable for what its seems to be. I plugged in '04 for the year (it seems to be newer) and it was 1,000 under blue book for the options that I included. I guess you could call the color greenish-blue.

$21,000

that's all it had on the for sale sign.

What I'm really interested in is what you guys think about the price. Maybe a min and max you would use while haggling. my only concern is that there is nothing that makes for a legitimate argument/complaint while haggling.

As for the 40, my parents won't let me take it. It stays in town with my younger brother.

thanks,

Brendan

It's not a great price or a bad price. A year and a half ago, I almost bought an 04 4Runner V8 for $20k. It had 40k miles. I can guarantee that it is a leased vehicle and the owner is trying to make a few hundred bucks by selling it privately.

Anyway, I see no reason for a V8 over the V6 unless you tow a ton. Even then, the 4.0L V6 is plenty capable. The biggest thing is that there is a timing chain on the V6 vs. a timing belt on the V8. Weird, I know. And couple that in with the rising gas prices, and the V6 looks better and better. Even though people say the difference isn't THAT much, still 2-3mpg is 2-3mpg. You're in school--you need all the savings you can get.

If I were you, I'd try to get a 4th Gen Sport Edition V6 4x4.

[Redline]

You should consider Cackalak Han's 3rd-Gen 4Runner.



It's not a great price or a bad price. A year and a half ago, I almost bought an 04 4Runner V8 for $20k. It had 40k miles. I can guarantee that it is a leased vehicle and the owner is trying to make a few hundred bucks by selling it privately.

Anyway, I see no reason for a V8 over the V6 unless you tow a ton. Even then, the 4.0L V6 is plenty capable. The biggest thing is that there is a timing chain on the V6 vs. a timing belt on the V8. Weird, I know. And couple that in with the rising gas prices, and the V6 looks better and better. Even though people say the difference isn't THAT much, still 2-3mpg is 2-3mpg. You're in school--you need all the savings you can get.

If I were you, I'd try to get a 4th Gen Sport Edition V6 4x4.

[valerieO]

I love my 98 4runner Limited but my husband drives our 93 Corolla. He commutes downtown and needs the economy car.
Have you thought about a Subi or a car? Is mpg a driving force?

[spikemd]

I don't believe in the previous post about trucks with more than 100k miles not worth more than $10k. Thats a crock of bs! For a Toyota, 100k miles is just broken in!

I bought my 2003 4Runner V8 with 95K miles on it. They were freeway miles and the previous owner had records and regularly maintained it up to 90K. Regular maintenance is much more important than outright miles. I got mine for a steal ($15k:victory: ) but I had to do the 90K mile service which includes the timing belt. I also changed the waterpump, thermostat and other parts while I was in there.

The truck is awesome and I am so glad I held out for the 4th gen over the 3rd gen. Not to say the 3rd gen is bad, in fact it excels over the 4th gen in terms of cargo load, ground clearance and a few other points, but I liked the increased passenger space, styling and road handling of the 4th gen. The majority of my time will be spent on pavement.

You can definitely find a 4th gen well under $20k, just be patient. Check the internet listing sites and Craigslist daily.

[Cackalak Han]

You should consider Cackalak Han's 3rd-Gen 4Runner.

Thanks for the plug, Redline. :D But a guy is flying out here from San Francisco this Saturday to probably pick her up. I'm going to fly out to Reno this Monday or later on in the week to pick up Mike's Taco. :wings:

[Redline]

Look at all these nice Toyotas exchanging hands :-)


Thanks for the plug, Redline. :D But a guy is flying out here from San Francisco this Saturday to probably pick her up. I'm going to fly out to Reno this Monday or later on in the week to pick up Mike's Taco. :wings:

[Jacket]

Hey everybody,

Time to bring this tread back from the dead.

I've taken everyone's recommendations and spent the last few months searching for a 4th gen. 4runner. There were slim pickings for a long time, then last week someone put a 4runner up for sale a block away from school. :yikes:
It's a V8 limited 4th gen 4runner (not sure on exact year). It has about 43,000 miles and has never been used off-road. Although it has oversized off- road tires (BFG AT).

The price seems reasonable for what its seems to be. I plugged in '04 for the year (it seems to be newer) and it was 1,000 under blue book for the options that I included. I guess you could call the color greenish-blue.

$21,000

that's all it had on the for sale sign.

What I'm really interested in is what you guys think about the price. Maybe a min and max you would use while haggling. my only concern is that there is nothing that makes for a legitimate argument/complaint while haggling.

As for the 40, my parents won't let me take it. It stays in town with my younger brother.

thanks,

Brendan

Hmmm. My folks are down in Mesa, and they just bought a Prius. They tell me they want to sell their 4Runner - its a 2003 V8 4x4 with about 45k miles, and they drive it like a couple of retirees (which they are).

I can check and see if they are serious about selling.