Mark's DC Tacoma

[Mlachica]

I guess it's about time I start one of these....

How about a little background before I begin with the goodies? In October of 2001 I was in the market for a truck - primary interest being pre 2001 tacomas. At the time I didn't like the front end of the 01 and up tacomas, I also thought the double cabs looked out of proportion with that cute little bed. I'll be honest, I even heavily considered a ford explorer. In the end I decided to go with reliability and went for the toyota and the silver one is what I ended up with. Yes, it's exactly what I said I didn't like haha. I was dying for a 4wd but being 19 at the time and dependant on my parents for making the insurance payment my dad put his foot down and made me get the prerunner. I'm embarrassed to admit being young and ignorant I didn't really know what I wanted to do with the truck so I ended up spending lots of time and money into it. (Pre TTORA -->) it went from having king coilovers to king coilovers and procomp 4" with kings in the rear on blocks (post TTORA -->) which eventually were replaced with Deavers, and finally - nixed the PC 4" for donahoes and camburg upper control arms. Yes, it was stupid, yes I learned a major and important lesson.

November 2004, 2wd definitely wasn't cutting it so I parted and sold the truck (thank god I ended up not losing very much money overall). Convinced that the Tacoma is a very dominant off road capable vehicle I wanted the exact same thing but with 4wd. So I found exactly that in impulse red, not my first choice for color but living in a metro area 4wd DC's were kind of rare at the time. The jist of it: 2002 DC TRD V6, 54,000 miles.

Ok, now with the goodies! Let's see if I can keep this interesting, I'll try to list my mods in chronological order. There were only a couple things from my prerunner that made it on to the 4wd:

Can-Back/Roof Rack- It's the powdercoated steel version. I wish I had the stainless version for it's weight carrying capacity and it's resilliance to rust. On paper the powdercoated steel version is rated for 150lbs. I spent a little time talking to the creator and other employees of can-back and they said that 150 is a very safe weight to carry, but it's a very well capable to sustain weight. They told me about a can-back fitted tacoma that rolled in Azusa Canyon and the can-back held up extremely well, which just recently I found out was Allen, a member of this forum. In a nutshell it's strong as hell, especially static, like for uh uhhh roof top tent or something =)

I love the soft top, it looks saaaweeeet and it's very functional. My only two gripes: 1. I wish it was weather tite. 2. I wish it was easier to keep the sides up while accessing the bed (I have an idea to resolve this)

Don't get me wrong, it withstands water perfectly in regards to the fabric. Having four individual sides (front/rear/sides) it lets in water at the corners where the sides meet. It's minimal but when you have clothes or other things you don't want wet than any water is a lot.

When the sides are rolled up they are heald by a belt and tensioner (don't know what it's called) it's like those things on backpacks that are used to adjust it's fitting. You have to fish the nylon belt through, back over and through again and when the belt starts to fray it gets harder trying to "fish". When you want something out of the bed and want to get in and out it kind of sucks having to do all that. So I think what I'll do is somehow mount an elastic loop on the inside of the can-back. So when I want the sides up (not while driving, just static) I can unsnap the bottom, grab the loop and hook it to the uprights for the roof rack - voila - no fishing. I hope I'm making sense - it's late and I'm tired =)

Lights - I kept my two LightFORCE 170's which were previously mounted on a demello front lightbar and will be going on a demello front bumper.

Now for the new stuff...first stop - Demello Offroad

Oh wait, before I went there I put in a Hayden tranny cooler - I believe it's the 579 model. Found it at pep boys for about 60 bucks. Stock, there isn't much cooling for the tranny (bottom of radiator) and I knew that with what I wanted to do it'd be best to cool the tranny, especially for longevity. Ignore the hoses in the picture - it was very temporary =)

Now for DO: Donahoe's/Deaver 8's/Bils.5100's/Hybrid Sliders/front winch bumper

I think everybody knows about this stuff. Suspension lift that rides awesome! Some protection and improved approach angle and option to mount winch and lights.

Goodyear MT/R 32x1150 and steelies - Awesome traction! Heavy rims!

More to come...feel free to any questions!

Here's the prerunner...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/prerunner.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/prerunner1.jpg
Here's the tranny cooler (hayden 679)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/Misc073.jpg
Here's the bumper, front view,
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/Misc069.jpg
top view,
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/Misc070.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/Misc163.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/Misc161.jpg

[flyingwil]

Nice to see another DC! I have been waiting for this since I got a glimpse of you DC in your other post...

I know how hard it is to find a 4wd DC... I spent 7 months looking for one here in PHX.

Love the Can-Back... where did you pick your up at?

Wil

[Scott Brady]

Sweet Mark! Nice to see you hanging around here...

Are you planning on attending AZ Rocks again? :camping:

[Mlachica]

flyingwil,

Wow 7 months!!! That's a really long time.

I bought mine direct from can-back in azusa,ca.

Scott,

Thanks to you, I have a place to hang out :gunt:

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be attending this year :( With a 15 month old and lots of local trips it's hard to make longer trips. I'm dying to go back to AZ, such a beautiful area and I can't wait to make my virgin trip to mexico. :arabia: Maybe I'll see you around...

[Mlachica]

Here are a few pics of the donahoe deaver combo flexin'

Whether flying through the woops or crawling over rocks, this setup rocks!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/fast.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/slow1.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/slow2.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/slow.jpg

[Mlachica]

And here's some pictures of DO's hybrid sliders (http://www.demello-offroad.com//catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_21&products_id=28&osCsid=668a40fd60736a53a6a3dbe01e1f5d63)

It doesn't look like I'm touching the rock, you'll just have to trust me that my truck is resting on it!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/sliders1.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/sliders.jpg

[Mlachica]

Shortly after the lift/sliders/front bumper were added I went for a quick jaunt through the snow in big bear. With an unloaded truck on my descent home I had some serious brake fade towards the bottom, I used my brakes a lot but I didn't think I was that hard on them. So I wanted to improve my braking. I decided to go with iRotors zinc plated slotted Brembo rotors (http://www.irotors.com/)and porterfield racing R4-S carbon-kevlar pads. (http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pads.html) What I like about iRotors is that the milled slots are longer than others, they actually extend past the pad allowing the gases to escape which improves the cooling. I chose not to go with the cross drilled/slotted because I've heard of rocks and debris getting stuck in the holes when driving through mud and water crossings ruining the pads. And as for the pads they were recommended to me by a lot of my rice rocket friends.

Installation was a breeze, all that's intailed is removing the wheel, removing the caliper and the rotor comes right out. Then there's some retaining clips/springs that hold the pads in that need to be removed. I opted not to replace the anti-squeal shims so I cleaned them off really well, applied some anti-squeal lube and put everything back together. Not knowing when the brake fluid was last changed I flushed and replaced it all with valvoline brake fluid. It took me about an hour start to finish.

I've been running this setup for about a year and 18k miles. After the break in I noticed this combination performs better when their warmed up. And once their warm it works grrreat. I've wheeled in big bear and back plenty of times with a loaded truck and 2 and 1/2 people. The only time I've experienced brake fade since then was with a loaded truck and intentionally riding the brakes. Because the pads are carbon-kevlar I do have reasonable amounts of dust but with black wheels it's really not a big deal to me. Squeaking only happens in really dusty conditions and always goes away upon the return home.

[flyingwil]

Thanks for the updates! So do you have issues with your brakes in cold weather climates?

[Mlachica]

Thanks for the updates! So do you have issues with your brakes in cold weather climates?

No, no issues. First thing in the morning you can tell the brakes are cold but it's negligible and it goes away almost instantly.

[OldSven]

I was thinking about getting those wheels from Wheeler's for mine. How much heavier than the stock wheels? Did you get the Type "B", that is the one that sticks out further isn't it?

Nice truck:cool:

[Mlachica]

I was thinking about getting those wheels from Wheeler's for mine. How much heavier than the stock wheels? Did you get the Type "B", that is the one that sticks out further isn't it?

Nice truck:cool:

Wow, you stumped me :shakin: . When I ordered these I got a part number from a friend which I no longer have. What I do know is that they are made by procomp. It's to my understanding that they are now made differently so they won't fit the 01-04 tacoma's (won't clear the caliper). But essentially they are the same as the wheelers off road type b wheels and according to their site they weigh in at 30lbs. And yes the type b wheels have a smaller backspacing = stick out farther. I hope this helps:confused:

[OldSven]

Wow, you stumped me :shakin: . When I ordered these I got a part number from a friend which I no longer have. What I do know is that they are made by procomp. It's to my understanding that they are now made differently so they won't fit the 01-04 tacoma's (won't clear the caliper). But essentially they are the same as the wheelers off road type b wheels and according to their site they weigh in at 30lbs. And yes the type b wheels have a smaller backspacing = stick out farther. I hope this helps:confused:
It does help. So overall you like your canopy? I like that a regular hard canopy keeps everything locked up and dryer, but the canvas ones just look cooler:cool:

[Mlachica]

It does help. So overall you like your canopy? I like that a regular hard canopy keeps everything locked up and dryer, but the canvas ones just look cooler:cool:

Oh man, I love it! For looks and functionality it gets :bowdown: from me...

Now if I were to set something up to sleep in the bed then I'd go for a traditional shell. I'd have to shrink quite a bit to be able to fit in the bed of my dc though :o

[Mlachica]

With the added weight of all the steel, the rotating mass of the wheel/tire combination and the anticipated weight of passengers, camping gear and fuel I knew I'd be putting extensive stress on the drivetrain, particularly the transmission. Typical Toyota style = very basic gauge cluster. There's a water temp gauge, tach, speedo and fuel gauge, the rest are dummy lights. So to better monitor my tranny I decided to add a tranny temp gauge. It's a 2 1/16" auto meter phantom series tranny temp electric gauge. The phantom series offers a very anti bling, flat black bezel with a white face - to match the Toyota panel. With a red backlight it matches the Tacoma's interior almost perfectly.

Not only was I anticipating an extensive weight load (mass) I was also anticipating a heavy electrical load (amps). Again, Toyota fashion doesn't include a voltmeter so I wanted to monitor my charging system. I went with the same matching Autometer phantom voltmeter.


Here's a link to the Autometer Gauges (http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugeop.aspx?sid=7)


For a clean appearance and ease of visibility I went with the lo-tek dual gauge pillar pod. (thanks to Scott for sharing his resources) The color match and fit are basically perfect. However, with mine there's a black smudge underneath the voltmeter.

Link to the Pillar Pod (http://www.gaugepods.com/)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/gaugepod.jpg

[asteffes]

Hi, Mark. How and where did you install the temperature sensor for the transmission gauge?

[Mlachica]

Hi, Mark. How and where did you install the temperature sensor for the transmission gauge?

There are two lines that run from your tranny to the bottom of the radiator. I tapped into one with some fittings and voila. Not long after autometer came out with the perfect fitting to tap into the tranny lines and it's about 25 bucks, you can probably find it on their website. I plan on getting it...someday...:p

[Mlachica]

DO is building a rear tire carrier and I'm looking for suggestions. Here's pictures of the gate itself. On the far left is a mount for either an ammo can or a jerry can. Adjacent to it is where my hi-lift will be. And of course that's the tire carrier on the right. On the inside of the gate, between the swing gate and the tail gate will be a table on a piano type hinge. So when the gates open I can drop down the table for extra kitchen space. It's going to be mounted on DO's rear hybrid bumper (http://www.demello-offroad.com//catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_23&products_id=43&osCsid=c5ef878d06cbe79fc442fbd8f8bb7001).

I plan on carrying an ammo can and storing some recovery stuff in there for quick and easy access, ie., tow strap, shackles, block, tree strap. Or I can just leave it empty and put my wag bags in there after they're uhhh, usedhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/images/smilies/blush.gif . I'd also like to put a camera, just not sure where to mount it.

My reason for going this route: I have a downey aux tank taking the space of my spare tire. With a double cab I can't sleep in the bed so I plan on a roof top tent which rules out putting my spare up there. And I don't want to put the tire on the bonnet. Having a short bed I need to maximize bedspace so rear swing out it is!

If you guys have any suggestions on what to add, what to do, or any questions please type up!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/swinggate1.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/swinggate2.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/TireCarrier1.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/TireCarrier2.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/TireCarrier3.jpg

[Scott Brady]

Mark,

The gauge pilar looks great! I really like the white face gauges.

What are you using for a trans. cooler?

[Mlachica]

Mark,

The gauge pilar looks great! I really like the white face gauges.

What are you using for a trans. cooler?

Thanks Scott,

I'm using the Hayden 679 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HEAVY-DUTY-HAYDEN-1679-TRANSMISSION-OIL-COOLER-679-race_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33727QQitemZ804676 7446QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohosting), that's the only working link I could find. For some reason I'm having trouble with www.haydenauto.com (http://www.haydenauto.com)

I must admit, I put the cooler in before the trans temp gauge so it could be just what I want to think - when I hop on the freeway, or when I get going for a fair amount of time, the temp goes down considerably (20 degrees). I doubt that little section under the radiator that's used as a cooler from the factory would make such a difference. :ylsmoke:

BTW, how'd you mount your xenarc? Was there some fabbing involved?

[Willman]

DO is building a rear tire carrier and I'm looking for suggestions. Here's pictures of the gate itself. On the far left is a mount for either an ammo can or a jerry can. Adjacent to it is where my hi-lift will be. And of course that's the tire carrier on the right. On the inside of the gate, between the swing gate and the tail gate will be a table on a piano type hinge. So when the gates open I can drop down the table for extra kitchen space. It's going to be mounted on DO's rear hybrid bumper (http://www.demello-offroad.com//catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_23&products_id=43&osCsid=c5ef878d06cbe79fc442fbd8f8bb7001).

I plan on carrying an ammo can and storing some recovery stuff in there for quick and easy access, ie., tow strap, shackles, block, tree strap. Or I can just leave it empty and put my wag bags in there after they're uhhh, usedhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/images/smilies/blush.gif . I'd also like to put a camera, just not sure where to mount it.

My reason for going this route: I have a downey aux tank taking the space of my spare tire. With a double cab I can't sleep in the bed so I plan on a roof top tent which rules out putting my spare up there. And I don't want to put the tire on the bonnet. Having a short bed I need to maximize bedspace so rear swing out it is!

If you guys have any suggestions on what to add, what to do, or any questions please type up!

Nice gate setup!!! I am also building a rear bumper w/tire carrier!! I am about quarter way done. I am still in the planning stages of where i want things to go!!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC01088.jpg

I will be posting a thread on the buildup soon!!

[flyingwil]

DO is building a rear tire carrier and I'm looking for suggestions. Here's pictures of the gate itself. On the far left is a mount for either an ammo can or a jerry can. Adjacent to it is where my hi-lift will be. And of course that's the tire carrier on the right. On the inside of the gate, between the swing gate and the tail gate will be a table on a piano type hinge. So when the gates open I can drop down the table for extra kitchen space. It's going to be mounted on DO's rear hybrid bumper (http://www.demello-offroad.com//catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_23&products_id=43&osCsid=c5ef878d06cbe79fc442fbd8f8bb7001).

I plan on carrying an ammo can and storing some recovery stuff in there for quick and easy access, ie., tow strap, shackles, block, tree strap. Or I can just leave it empty and put my wag bags in there after they're uhhh, usedhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/images/smilies/blush.gif . I'd also like to put a camera, just not sure where to mount it.

My reason for going this route: I have a downey aux tank taking the space of my spare tire. With a double cab I can't sleep in the bed so I plan on a roof top tent which rules out putting my spare up there. And I don't want to put the tire on the bonnet. Having a short bed I need to maximize bedspace so rear swing out it is!

If you guys have any suggestions on what to add, what to do, or any questions please type up!

Looking at you pictures posted, I would be concerned about water being trapped in the vertical Beams and rusting it out. Is there any drain holes?

[Scott Brady]

Mark,

Bumper is looking good. It appears that Jason has gone to lengths to lighten it up. (mine was 117 lbs.) I mounted my camera in the middle of the spare tire, which protects it and gives a commanding view... I am very happy with that position :)

[Mlachica]

Nice gate setup!!! I am also building a rear bumper w/tire carrier!! I am about quarter way done. I am still in the planning stages of where i want things to go!!!!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f374/nicwillman/DSC01088.jpg

I will be posting a thread on the buildup soon!!

Good luck Willman! I look forward to see the outcome.

[Mlachica]

Looking at you pictures posted, I would be concerned about water being trapped in the vertical Beams and rusting it out. Is there any drain holes?

:clapsmile Outstanding question Wil, I'll have to ask about that. In the end it's going to be powdercoated a textured black. I've seen other things of similar design that he's had powdercoated and everything, including the insides have pc on them, it just wasn't as textured as the outside.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention...and great writeup on the fridges:exclaim:

[Mlachica]

Mark,

Bumper is looking good. It appears that Jason has gone to lengths to lighten it up. (mine was 117 lbs.) I mounted my camera in the middle of the spare tire, which protects it and gives a commanding view... I am very happy with that position :)

The bumper and gate alone was 117 lbs.? When I carried the gate itself to take pic's of it I think it weighed in under 45lbs, I'm guessing about ~35lbs. Well, now that I think about it, 117lbs sounds about right...:confused:

I've been in correspondance with Rod at total vision for a little while, I'm trying to setup a package that suits what I need. His customer service is great:exclaim:

[p1michaud]

DO is building a rear tire carrier and I'm looking for suggestions.

That is some fine craftmanship. :bowdown:

I've got another comment\concern and it has to do with frame reinforcement. I'm sure you and DO would know about it, but it's worth throwing it out there. Will you be adding extra reinforcement to your frame with the extra weight out back?

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

That is some fine craftmanship. :bowdown:

I've got another comment\concern and it has to do with frame reinforcement. I'm sure you and DO would know about it, but it's worth throwing it out there. Will you be adding extra reinforcement to your frame with the extra weight out back?

Cheers :beer:,
P

Yeah, I love those super clean welds!

And yeah, the frame is already reinforced. He welded 1/4" steel to the frame above the rear tires. I'll post some pics, he did it a little different from previous trucks. Instead of just welding the perimiter of the 1/4" flat to the frame, he cut holes in the center and welded the plate to the frame there as well.

[p1michaud]

Yeah, I love those super clean welds!

And yeah, the frame is already reinforced. He welded 1/4" steel to the frame above the rear tires. I'll post some pics, he did it a little different from previous trucks. Instead of just welding the perimiter of the 1/4" flat to the frame, he cut holes in the center and welded the plate to the frame there as well.

I'll second the super clean welds because I know what my welds look like! :Wow1:
I would like to see some pictures of the frame reinforcements when you get a chance. I'm going to do the same for the Tacoma in the near future.
Cheers,
P

[p1michaud]

I would like to see some pictures of the frame reinforcements when you get a chance.

No need to post pics, they are all here (http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31536).

Plus a bump for a nice truck!

Cheers:beer: ,
P

[Mlachica]

No need to post pics, they are all here (http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31536).

Plus a bump for a nice truck!

Cheers:beer: ,
P

One of those pics is of my truck :hehe: . The one where it's welded to the frame but not painted.

I've been meaning to take pics but I wanted to paint it before I took em. DO painted them that glossy black, I'm going to paint it flat black but it's been raining lately...so I'll still post more pics. :Wow1:

[Bluto]

This really looks nice.
Im just wondering if this could be rigged up to attach to where a tow hitch would be for an LC80 - bolt on to the frame. Removed after a trip for daily drivers. Im guessing it would still be less than whats out in the market for tire and jerry can carriers.
Just looked at the site - I guess wrong. That hybrid bumper = $650.

[Westy]

Bluto - you may want to inquire with Slee Off Road about your situation.

They make some very nice rear bumpers/swingouts for 80 series Cruisers.

[Bluto]

Sorry for the Hijack Mark.


Westy,
Ive looked but havent spoken with anybody at this time.
I would love to buy their set up but looking for something that can come off when a trip is done (weight saving for a daily driver) and priced reasonably.

Ill probably go the bolt on route (slee or Hanna) - itll just take longer.

Alan-D

[Scott Brady]

I've been in correspondance with Rod at total vision for a little while, I'm trying to setup a package that suits what I need. His customer service is great:exclaim:

You may want to consider a nose-cam as well. It is one camera I am very interested in adding. Being able to see while cresting a dune or hill would be great.

[Mlachica]

You may want to consider a nose-cam as well. It is one camera I am very interested in adding. Being able to see while cresting a dune or hill would be great.

:hehe: He's getting started on my order already...so far I've got the tail cam, nose cam, front axle cam from t case, rear axle cam from t case and a possible cam in the cab viewing through the winshield. Do you think I should have that last cameras field of vision include the driver or dashboard? I at least want to see the hood for a reference.

And the 6pos switch will have an output to the screen and splitter for a camcorder :jump:

[Scott Brady]

SWEEEEEEET :victory:

[BajaTaco]

I posted all of my comments in the thread at 4wdtrips... but I gotta say these are some really nice mods! I can't wait to see the video captures :ylsmoke:

[Mlachica]

No need to post pics, they are all here (http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31536).

Plus a bump for a nice truck!

Cheers:beer: ,
P

Here's pics of my frame reinforcement...I finally painted it flat black, instead of the bling black. I did this to support my swing gate and aux fuel tank. DO changed his design and this was the second one that he did this way with the holes cut/welded in the center for better unity to the frame. This is a must with all the added weight.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6088.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6095.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6096.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6099.jpg

P.S. I finally hosted my pictures via photobucket and updated my thread so no more attachments :victory:

[flyingwil]

Looks good Mark! Keep up the great work!

[p1michaud]

Here's pics of my frame reinforcement...I finally painted it flat black, instead of the bling black.

Thanks for the pictures!
Cheers :beer:,
P

Good work with photobucket!

[BajaTaco]

Holy frame reinforcements Batman! That looks good.

:victory:

[Mlachica]

Holy frame reinforcements Batman! That looks good.

:victory:

LOL, thank you all for the compliments :D

It feels like my frame is more rigid - it's probably just mental though :orngartis

[Mlachica]

Look at what I ordered today!!!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/LR3SideTent.jpg

No, no, no. Not the Land Rover! I ordered the "cavernous" eezi-awn 1600. With my wife and son I think it'll be a little tight but my wife would much rather sleep up there than on the ground. Thanks to Nathan at Pangaea it should arrive in a couple weeks. I can't wait to install it and use it! :chowtime:

[BajaTaco]

Look at what I ordered today!!!

:Wow1: :jumping: :bowdown: SWEET!!! Man, you are a on a roll!

[Mlachica]

:xxrotflma

[p1michaud]

LOL, thank you all for the compliments :D

It feels like my frame is more rigid - it's probably just mental though :orngartis

After welding my sliders (main beam is 2" by 2" by 3/16") to the frame of my Tacoma I really felt a difference in rigidity. Another Tacoma owner had experienced the same thing when he welded his sliders on. It was M. Griese on 4x4wire and he said the following: "
Have you noticed any vibrations since welding on the heavywall sliders. Not a pulsating vibration, more like additional 'road feel' ?? I have always wondered if mine was due to having such a rigid bar & mounting? (Less 'give' in the frame)".

I also remember reading that your frame is more rigid when you beef it up on TTORA (http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31536).

Good work on the tent. Where will you be mounting it?

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Ursidae69]

I keep forgetting the frame reinforcements. I need to do that, those look awesome! Nice work!

[Mlachica]

P1,
whew, so I'm not crazy! :clapsmile

I plan on mounting the tent on my can-back, it's going to overhang a bit but I think the extra space will be worth it.

Ursidae,

Thanks for the compliments. Jason started laser cutting the frame reinforcements and supposedly there's some differences between some of the frames so give him some time to work the bugs out then order it :jumping:

[kai38]

Look at what I ordered today!!!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/LR3SideTent.jpg

No, no, no. Not the Land Rover! I ordered the "cavernous" eezi-awn 1600. With my wife and son I think it'll be a little tight but my wife would much rather sleep up there than on the ground. Thanks to Nathan at Pangaea it should arrive in a couple weeks. I can't wait to install it and use it! :chowtime:

Great tent. Me and the kids use to all fit in there but now they are 15 yrs old so they get to sleep in it while I sleep on a cot outside, if they come along, if not me and the lab sleep great in it.
Kirk
http://www.pbase.com/kai38/image/10340458

[Mlachica]

Great tent. Me and the kids use to all fit in there but now they are 15 yrs old so they get to sleep in it while I sleep on a cot outside, if they come along, if not me and the lab sleep great in it.
Kirk
http://www.pbase.com/kai38/image/10340458

Sorry but your picture didn't show...

So how many did you fit in there? How tall is everybody?

So far it's me (5'8"), my wife (5'4") and my son (2'?') :elkgrin: at the most in there. Other than that, it'll be me solo or my bro would tag along.


while I sleep on a cot outside

That'll probably end up happening to me!!! haha

[Mlachica]

Am I doing things too fast here?

I just installed this...

http://www.downeyoff-road.com/images_parts/AT-9.jpg

It's the downey aux fuel tank. It's been sitting since November and I've had some spare time. So after 2 1/2 afternoons of cursing and busting knuckles it's all done.

I got back from the gas station not to long ago and so far everything is good. The pump stopped pumping after about 13.5 gallons but who knows how full it really is, I'd have to top it off with a jerry can or something. I'm hoping to go to anza borrego as soon as my eezi awn shows up so that'll be it's maden voyage.

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Very Kewl Mark!!!!!!!!!

We need to put it to some good use!!!!

...AND!......if I wheel with you.....you might have some extra gas to save me!!!!! ....hehe:elkgrin:
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Mark.......

I just got my truck back from Mr. Suckys engine rebuild shop........so if you want to head out......just give me a heads up!

Aloha! .............Mark

[p1michaud]

Am I doing things too fast here?

I would say that Scott has already set a blazing mod pace, but you are hot on his heals! :Wow1:
Was it that much of a PITA to install? How much are those units? Downey's website does not list a price.

If you have them, post some pics! Great progress. :victory:

Cheers,
P

[BajaTaco]

Am I doing things too fast here?

Absolutely not!

Very nice!!! :victory:

[Mlachica]

You guys are right, I think Scott set the pace for 'fast'. I think once my tent is on and my bumper is installed I'm just going to enjoy it for a while;) we'll see how well I can hold to that huh. How can one stop modding???

P1,

It's not that big of a deal to install. Being young and fairly new to working on vehicles I get a little timid when I work on parts/systems I've never worked on, or don't know much about. The hardest part I'd say is mounting it. It can be done alone but two people would make the job fly by. There was just one clip that was a pain to get off because of location and lack of proper tools, I also wanted to avoid dropping the main tank b/c of the lack of muscle around. :smilies27 And I think they go for about 600, it's been a while, just call Downey for the latest price.

Mark,

I'll hit you up next time I go out. Things are always more fun with more trucks! Glad to hear you got your truck back, you think all the bugs are worked out?

Thanks for the compliments everybody

[kcowyo]

Mark, you are doing some really great stuff with your truck!

I look forward to seeing more, especially your mounting of the tent.

Awesome work guy - :clapsmile

[Ramdough]

Awsome truck!!!!

I wish I had the time to build things... and the money to buy things...


It sounds like you have all you need. Didn't you also build a deck system? I did not see any pics in your thread.


BTW.... it looks like DO only welds the holes and between the cut outs on the upper and lower edges. Is that true?

Did you have to paint the inside of the frame... did the paint buble up on the back side of the welds?

I am thinking of doing the same thing, but I would like to see somone elses first.

Did I say that you have an nice truck?!?!?!

[Mlachica]

Thanks again for the compliments!


It sounds like you have all you need. Didn't you also build a deck system? I did not see any pics in your thread.


I don't think modifications will ever be done! With this longer range I need more comfortable seats to withstand the longer durations. No deck...yet ;)


BTW.... it looks like DO only welds the holes and between the cut outs on the upper and lower edges. Is that true?


DO welded the entire hole on the frame reinforcement. He welded sections on the top and bottom and the entire front and rear.


Did you have to paint the inside of the frame... did the paint buble up on the back side of the welds?


There were a couple places on the inside of the frame where the paint bubbled and I had to clean and recoat it.


Did I say that you have an nice truck?!?!?!

Why thank you sir!

[Mlachica]

Here are some pictures of the Downey Off Road Aux Gas tank...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_3983.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_3986.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6284.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6283.jpg

Unfortunately under full flex the tire will rub the filler neck, regardless of what Downey may claim. When I say full flex I mean fully tucked rear driver wheel and the passenger rear wheel in the air. I actually broke the gas cap from the rubbing :ar15: So I'll be changing this setup in the near future. kinda stupid...

BTW, gas prices are freakin' outrageous!

[Mlachica]

Here are a couple more. I should have got a profile shot but I don't think you'll even be able to see it. It only hangs down about 2-3" below the frame rail.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6288.jpg
I keep forgetting to roll up the spare tire carrier, I don't cary the tool with me anymore...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6293.jpg

Here are the results of filling my main tank from my aux tank.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6279.jpg

Here's some mindless info...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6281.jpg
The gps was reset a few miles prior to refueling, my odometer/speedometer reflect how many miles are on these tanks.

Again, gas prices are freakin' outrageous!

[Mlachica]

:jumping: Look what arrived last week!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6547.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6549.jpg

Here are the mounting rails,
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6551.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6552.jpg

[Mlachica]

Mounting turned out to be a breeze. The can-back up rights used a set screw to keep the cross bar in place. The distance between the set screws happened to be the same distance between the mounting rails, so all I had to do was ream the holes and drill through the cross bar and the top of the upright. It worked out perfect. I ended up getting longer bolts than what's pictured. The nylocks didn't quite have as much bite as I wanted with the supplied bolts.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6559.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6562.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6563.jpg

[Mlachica]

Once everthing was test fitted the can-back up rights got a coat of rust inhibiting flat black paint then voila...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6565.jpg

I can get in the passenger side door of the tent via the bed rail.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6564.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6568.jpg

I can also get in through the passenger side door of the tent by standing on the bed rail.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6569.jpg

Here's what it looks like closed...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6570.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6571.jpg

Weighing in around 130 lbs. it's comparable to a 70lb garvin industries rack with gear.

I had my bro get in and shake the tent around and I saw no flex in the can back frame - the entire truck moved. But just to be safe can back is sending me another pair of uprights to help distribute the weight.

So who wants to go to Joshua Tree Memorial Weekend?

[Ramdough]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are gonna love sleeping up there.

:victory:

One thing you might consider is the side that you open the tent to. I put mine on the passenger side so that if I ever get stranded on the shoulder, I can open the tent away from traffic.

Just a thought.

You are gonna love it.

[Mlachica]

One thing you might consider is the side that you open the tent to. I put mine on the passenger side so that if I ever get stranded on the shoulder, I can open the tent away from traffic.


That's a good point. How well does it function as an awning? I was thinking I can extend the amount of shade by attaching a tarp to the tent and the truck.

My rear tire carrier is going to open to the passenger side, I wonder how it'd affect the tent opening to that side.

[datrupr]

Mark, looking very nice. Those Ezi-Awns are very cool. Something that I am considering.

[Willman]

I have been dreaming about one of those for months!!!!!!

:bowdown:

What did it cost you to your door shipped???

[The Swiss]

:clapsmile Congratulation, looks good!

[Ramdough]

Only 1-2 people can sit under my Technitop. I don't really know anything about the eezi-awn.

I think between the truck, and the tent, you could add one tent pole to have a fully supported awning. :beer: Great for a few friends and beverages.

I don't know what affect your bumper will have on your design. The good thing about having your bumper swing the way yours will is that you can open it towards the road shoulder.

[Seeker]

:bowdown: I'm quite jealous.

[p1michaud]

Once everthing was test fitted the can-back up rights got a coat of rust inhibiting flat black paint then voila...

Wow, looks great! :clapsmile

Will you be leaving the tent in place all the time or just when you will be using it? Man that looks high off the ground.

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

Thank you all for the kind words :victory:


Wow, looks great! :clapsmile

Will you be leaving the tent in place all the time or just when you will be using it? Man that looks hight off the ground.

Cheers :beer:,
P

Not quite sure yet. I really would like to leave it off but it takes about 3 people to put it on and I wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to use it when nobody is around to help me load it. I usually do spur of the moment trips...But if I leave it up I know it'll affect my mileage and will put additional wear on my truck that really isn't necessary.

I plan on camping memorial weekend (anybody interested?) and I'll leave it as is and see how I like it opening to the drivers side.

What are you guys using for warmth at night? I bring either my SD 35 deg. bag or my TNF 0 deg. bag and a 3/4" thermarest pad. But now that I have this 3" matress I'm not sure if I need all that. What do you sleep under?

[Ramdough]

Do you have any strong tree branches near by?

My tent costs me 3MPG!!!! :eek: And my tent cover is already showing age after 2 years. I highly recomend removing it when not in use.


I have a pully on the end of a rope. I throw the pully over a tree branch and lower it to thte ground.

I then feed a rope through the pulley. I hook one end to a "harness" that I attach to the tent.

The other end I attach to a boat trailer manual winch.

I crank away and drive out from under.

I added two skooter wheels to my roof rack so I can roll my tent like a wheelbarrow into my garrage.

When I build a house with at least an 8 foot tall door, I will just hoist it to the ceiling.

Pics are here. (http://www.ramdough.com/Tent_roof_rack_mods.htm)

Total cost: $50
Freedom to take it off by myself: Priceless :xxrotflma

[Mlachica]

That's pretty slick. Too bad I can't roll the tent on my can back :hehe:

I'll have to rig it to something with a couple of blocks to make it easy on my body since I don't have a winch...ahhh but I do have a come along! Ideas are popping up everywhere.

What are you sleeping under? comforter? coleman type sleeping bag? mummy bag?

[Nullifier]

Nice ride man that looks like a gret set up. If I was willing to give up the capability of carrying canoes and kayaks I would go with a roof tent.

[Ramdough]

I don't actually roll the tent on my roof. I lift it off with a hoist and roll it on the ground. I just have the wheels perminently attached to the tent rack for convenience.

[Mlachica]

I should be receiving my xenarc 700tsv next week along with my 4 camera total vision products self spotting system. :luxhello: :luxhello: :luxhello:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/Xenarc.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/xenarc_back.jpg

details to follow....

[BajaTaco]

:jumping: :luxhello: :jumping:

[Mlachica]

Here's a sneak peak at my rear bumper :jump:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6876.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6877.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6881.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6882.jpg

[p1michaud]

Here's a sneak peak at my rear bumper :jump:

Very very nice! I like the flip down table.

I also liked you pic in the "campsite pics..lets see um" thread with all the mods in action.

My keyboard is about to stop working because of all the drool on it!

Cheers :beer:,
P

[p1michaud]

It feels like my frame is more rigid - it's probably just mental though :orngartis

This past weekend, my friend and I installed some Demello frame reinforcements on my Tacoma. It took about 3 hours and most of it was prep work. My frame had lost of undercoating and surface rust. I had to clean up the frame with an angle grinder and wire wheel, then fit up the frame reinforcement plates, mark the welding locations and grind those areas to bare metal before welding the plates on. The frame reinforcements are an inexpensive improvement if you have access to welding technology! Well worth the time and money IMO. I did noticed a stiffer feel after they were installed as well.

Cheers :beer:,
P

[PCRover]

Very nice bumper! Looks super functional. Can I ask what kind of finish that is on it?

[Mlachica]

Thanks for the compliments P1, sounds like your truck is coming together as well. :jumping:

PCR, thank you for the kind words! It's called a wrinkle finish powdercoat. I love it, given that it's applied properly then it'll last forever.

I'm going on a fishing/offroading trip this coming weekend so I can get some in action shots.

[Ramdough]

Nice Bumper!!!

:jump:

[asteffes]

Hi, Mark. Are you getting rid of your Yakima cargo basket? I've been thinking about buying one if you're looking for a buyer. :)

[Mlachica]

Thanks Ramdough :victory:

I sent you an email Adam :D

[Seeker]

Very nice Mark. Is that rear suspension setup riding a little softer now? How much did the whole thing weigh in at? Dig that table setup too.

[Mlachica]

Seeker,

Sorry for the late reply, I've been so busy lately...:smilies27


Is that rear suspension setup riding a little softer now?

Yes it does ride softer now. Before the bumper my truck rode perfect for my taste, firm when empty and semi firm when full. So now when it's empty it rides inbetween which is very nice but when it's loaded it's just a little too soft for me. I think an eleven leaf is in order, unless it's because my leaf pack used to be an 8 and is now a 10. Time to call deaver...


How much did the whole thing weigh in at?

I've been kicking myself in the butt since I picked it up cuz I never weighed it but Demello might know, I'll ask them this week.


Dig that table setup too.

Thanks, I'm loving it. It's got some bugs that I need to work out like adjustability. Finding level ground isn't always easy, and frying on a slope isn't that easy either. Here's a pic of the table in use...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6944.jpg

[p1michaud]

Here's a pic of the table in use...

I take it you were out doing a bit of fishing! Mmmm :chowtime:

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Scott Brady]

Mark,

My Demello swing-out weighs 117 lbs.

Any pictures of the unit closed? Oh, cool table too :chowtime:

[Ursidae69]

Holy cow your truck is looking awesome! :bowdown: Did you change the gas cap arrangement? You had mentioned a few pages ago that there was rubbing and you may have broken the gas cap. I will try to get that tank I think, need to save some $$ though, it looks pricey.

[Scott Brady]

ok, I found the picks... man, I missed a bunch.

You truck is looking incredible!

[Ramdough]

Mark,

I second all of the applause from everyone else. Nice truck.


Scott,

I assume the 117lbs is without the tire and Hilift....am I right?

[Scott Brady]

Yes, no tire or jack :)

[Mlachica]

Thank you all for the compliments! :victory:


Holy cow your truck is looking awesome! :bowdown: Did you change the gas cap arrangement? You had mentioned a few pages ago that there was rubbing and you may have broken the gas cap. I will try to get that tank I think, need to save some $$ though, it looks pricey.

No, unfortunately I haven't found a setup yet. I think the best bet would be to mount it to the body. I found a couple nice flush mount gas caps at west marine but they have a 1 1/2" neck w/o accommodations for a vent and the tank has a 2" fitting for the filler neck and utilizes a neck vent.

How many vent lines do you have coming off of your filler neck? The downey aux tank was designed for the tacos with only one line tapped into the stock filler neck which I believe is a 3/8". My filler neck has about 4 lines tapped to it. So I've been getting a check engine light for an emission control valve. I think I've got a solution, I just haven't had the time to fix it.


My Demello swing-out weighs 117 lbs.

I think it'd be safe to assume our bumpers are similar in weight. I know since he's built his first few he's done a lot to cut some weight but he's added a couple things that add weight like the locking mechanism. I'll try to get more pictures of my bumper soon. I'm leaving this thursday for sacromento and will return sunday, after that I should have a lot less on my plate :Wow1:

Scott, did DO use solid steel uprights that hold the swing gate?

For those that are in to fishing, that's a 6lb, 24" alpers trout out of Lake Mary. My biggest fish and only fish that I caught on a lure, I was shocked :p

[Ramdough]

Mark,

Please let us know what you come up with for your vent lines. I have the desire to eventually add an aux tank too.

[Mlachica]

Mark,

Please let us know what you come up with for your vent lines. I have the desire to eventually add an aux tank too.

Will do!

Here's a new pic from the High Sierras...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6933b.jpg

[p1michaud]

For those that are in to fishing, that's a 6lb, 24" alpers trout out of Lake Mary. My biggest fish and only fish that I caught on a lure, I was shocked :p

Very nice! I would have been shocked as well. The brook trout arround here don't get much larger than 18" and that's a large trout! :Wow1:

[P.S. Scott, where is the fishing emoticon?]

Cheers :beer:,
P

[asteffes]

Will do!

Here's a new pic from the High Sierras...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6933b.jpg

Hey, Mark. Can you share where you went? Is the rest of the trip like that road? It looks relatively smooth.

[Mlachica]

Hey, Mark. Can you share where you went? Is the rest of the trip like that road? It looks relatively smooth.

It's a little side road just south of the 203 along the 395 near mammoth - Laurel Lakes. It's rated a 2.5, there's sections that are more challenging than what's pictured but it's nothing a stock 4x4 can't handle.

[Scott Brady]

Sorry for keeping this off-topic: What did you think of Laurel Lakes? The fishing? The camp?

Man, I just love that place...

[Mlachica]

Sorry for keeping this off-topic: What did you think of Laurel Lakes? The fishing? The camp?

Man, I just love that place...

No worries Scott!

Oh, I loved the Laurel Lakes trail! What spiked my interest was an article in one of the off road magazines a couple months ago. I vaugely remember the article but I think it was about some expedition style land rovers and showed them camping on the shore of Laurel lake. The pictures were so beautiful, so with whatever clues they gave in the article I was able to recognize it online. I think all they mentioned was that it was in the high sierra about 45min out of bishop.:arabia:

The available campsites along the way are all beautiful. But the one in the aspens next to a small meadow was just gorgeous. I can't wait to go back to that one - Oh man, talk about serenity :coffee:

According to the gps we were a little less than a mile from the lakes and had to stop because of some major snow. If I had about a half a day with a full size shovel we could have broke trail :archaeolo

With my dad along I didn't want to hike it. So I still have a lot to look forward to when I return.

It was my first time in mammoth area during the summer and everything is beautiful. We only fished Lake Mary and we still need to learn to fly fish so we didn't catch that many fish but one 6 pounder was plenty exciting! All those guys float tubin' and fly fishing were reelin em in one right after another!

I'm seriously considering a return late this summer, I'm dying to see the lake. You should come along!
:arabia:

[p1michaud]

Mark,
I was doing some brain storming for a custom bumper design and was wondering if you have access to remove your rear tail light lenses with your rear bumper uprights? From this picture it looks like a squeeze, but possible to remove the screws that hold the lens in place.
Cheers :beer: ,
P


Here's a sneak peak at my rear bumper :jump:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_6877.jpg

[Mlachica]

Mark,
I was doing some brain storming for a custom bumper design and was wondering if you have access to remove your rear tail light lenses with your rear bumper uprights? From this picture it looks like a squeeze, but possible to remove the screws that hold the lens in place.
Cheers :beer: ,
P

No, it's basically impossible to change the rear tail lights without dropping the bumper. The bumper will pivot down and out of the way if you remove the main bumper supports and loosen the bolt that mlountes the 1/4 panel protection to the frame.

[p1michaud]

No, it's basically impossible to change the rear tail lights without dropping the bumper. The bumper will pivot down and out of the way if you remove the main bumper supports and loosen the bolt that mlountes the 1/4 panel protection to the frame.

Hopefully you won't have to do that!
Thanks,
P

[BajaTaco]

Oh, I loved the Laurel Lakes trail!

... The available campsites along the way are all beautiful. But the one in the aspens next to a small meadow was just gorgeous. I can't wait to go back to that one - Oh man, talk about serenity :coffee:




Ahhhh, we know (http://www.bajataco.com/NVTR05/L_nvtr05_04.jpg) what you mean! I was blown away by the place as well. Hey, that is a nice catch on the fish!

Mark, I really like your truck and everything you are doing with it. Keep up the good work!

:beer:

[Mlachica]

Ahhhh, we know (http://www.bajataco.com/NVTR05/L_nvtr05_04.jpg) what you mean! I was blown away by the place as well. Hey, that is a nice catch on the fish!

Mark, I really like your truck and everything you are doing with it. Keep up the good work!

:beer:

Thanks Chris! I'm lovin my truck man, it's so much fun with all these ammenities.

Now it's time to clean up stuff. I rushed to put things together for some recent trips and they work but it's not done the way I want it. Wiring is a pain to do right but it's gotta get done...

Things to "fix":
Reinforce the main battery tray - a little play is too much.
A lot of re wiring
Move the aux tank filler neck so it doesn't get ripped when articulating
Redo the plumbing for the aux tank
Redo the mount for the lcd screen for the cameras
Improve the rear drop down table from the swing gate

Time for maintenance:
Motor Oil
Transmission flush
Timing belt
Front diff oil
Power Steering flush - add inline filter/cooler
Replace Steering Rack bushings

Things to come:
(not necessarily in order)
rims & tires - black 16x8's (haven't decided whether steel or alloy) I like the MT baja mtz tires in 285/75R16 but I might just go with bfg mt's in the 255/85r16. any tips?
Regear, probably 4.88's and a possible arb in front since it'll be open
New Seats - either mastercraft baja rs or some other factory seat (I need to recline)
Rear cargo deck w/drawers, water tank, pump, heater
Air tank/system in tool box.

I think I'm going to be busy for a while and I'm sure I forgot some things that need to get done as well.:rolleyes:

[Ramdough]

Mark, awsome truck:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:



Just curious, what improvements do you want to make to your table?

BTW, can the chains that support the table touch your tailgate when you drive offroad?

[BajaTaco]

New Seats - either mastercraft baja rs...

Oh man, you know I want a set of those. :cool: Sweet seats.

Please give us some details on the cameras when you get a chance :lurk:

And 16" wheels - is that because you want to go with metric sizes?

[Mlachica]

:confused:
Mark, awsome truck:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:



Just curious, what improvements do you want to make to your table?

BTW, can the chains that support the table touch your tailgate when you drive offroad?

Thanks Ramdough, you're too kind :clapsmile

Well I prefer a vinyl coated cable for one. And adjustability would be nice because level ground isn't always available so I have to figure out a way to make it adjustable. Another thing is that where the chain mounts to the tailgate is inside the outer edges of the table. So when my stove is on there it's being squeezed by the lid. Does this make sense?

Yes the chains can touch it all! That's why I wanted to do a final walk around of the bumper before powder coating but I wasn't accommodated for that. :mad: arrgghhhh.

Oh and I forgot to add I need new rims and tires. My tires have over 30k and they're loud as can be. I'm tired of saying "huh?" or "what'd you say?" while on the highway. I really like the mickey thompson baja mtz's in 285/75 16 but I haven't heard anything about them yet. And those might be a little too wide/tall for my lift. So I may just go with the bfg mt's in the expo popular size of 255/85 16.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/bajamtz.jpg


I'm running 15's now so I'm looking for a set of black 16x8's. I like these a lot.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/16alloy.jpg
But I like the price of steelies more

Help me please! :confused:

[Mlachica]

Oh man, you know I want a set of those. :cool: Sweet seats.

Please give us some details on the cameras when you get a chance :lurk:

And 16" wheels - is that because you want to go with metric sizes?

These taco seats are horrible, talk about back pain after a few hours.

The camera system is being perfected still, once I get it the way I like I'll post some pics. I'll see if I can post a quick video here soon.

As for the rims, I do see a slightly more useable range of sizes and available tires for that rim size. I'd like to go to a 33 but for my lift I can't accommodate anything very wide in a 33, so that leaves me with the 33 1050 which isn't that common. And the greater load rating is a plus...

[p1michaud]

These taco seats are horrible, talk about back pain after a few hours.

The camera system is being perfected still, once I get it the way I like I'll post some pics. I'll see if I can post a quick video here soon.

As for the rims, I do see a slightly more useable range of sizes and available tires for that rim size. I'd like to go to a 33 but for my lift I can't accommodate anything very wide in a 33, so that leaves me with the 33 1050 which isn't that common. And the greater load rating is a plus...

Man I'm enjoying your build up. On the wheels, don't forget that everything in 16" is more expensive. I have been tempted with the Wheelers 16 x 8 black aluminum wheels after hearing Scott mention that the Wheeler 16 x 8 steelies did not balance that well in the Steel Wheels Vs Aluminum Wheels (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=719) thread. That temptation was soon eliminated when I called my local Cooper Tire distributor and he informed me that he wanted $325/tire for the new Cooper Discoverer STT in a 265/75R16!
Speaking of wich, you do want to go to a 33" tire? Why not a 32" (i.e. 265/75R16)?
I want some new seats as well. What price range are you looking at for the Mastercraft seats?
Cheer :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

Man I'm enjoying your build up. On the wheels, don't forget that everything in 16" is more expensive. I have been tempted with the Wheelers 16 x 8 black aluminum wheels after hearing Scott mention that the Wheeler 16 x 8 steelies did not balance that well in the Steel Wheels Vs Aluminum Wheels (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=719) thread. That temptation was soon eliminated when I called my local Cooper Tire distributor and he informed me that he wanted $325/tire for the new Cooper Discoverer STT in a 265/75R16!
Speaking of wich, you do want to go to a 33" tire? Why not a 32" (i.e. 265/75R16)?
I want some new seats as well. What price range are you looking at for the Mastercraft seats?
Cheer :beer:,
P

Thanks P1 for the info, I forgot about that thread. As for the price difference, the tires I'm looking into for the 16's are about the same price as a similar sized 15".

I want to go with 33's for the ground clearance.

The Mastercrafts go for about 500 a peice, not cheap but for comfort on long drives it's worth it in my opinion.

[p1michaud]

The Mastercrafts go for about 500 a peice, not cheap but for comfort on long drives it's worth it in my opinion.

No problem on the info, I was just very suprised at the price when I called.
Keep us posted on the seats, I'm currious how they will turn out.
Cheers :beer:,
P

[BajaTaco]

The camera system is being perfected still, once I get it the way I like I'll post some pics. I'll see if I can post a quick video here soon.

As for the rims, I do see a slightly more useable range of sizes and available tires for that rim size. I'd like to go to a 33 but for my lift I can't accommodate anything very wide in a 33, so that leaves me with the 33 1050 which isn't that common. And the greater load rating is a plus...

10-4 on the cams and wheels ;)

[Mlachica]

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/?action=view&current=LaurelLakesJuly06.flv

I'm not sure how well this is going to work for you guys to view. If anybody has any suggestions or anything please let me know.

about the clip: This is when we arrived to laurel lakes in the beginning of July. It was past 1am and my rock lights were on. This was the first time I videotaped with the OB cameras :victory:

[Ursidae69]

Cool video! :bowdown: This thread is like an expanded version of my priority list for my truck. :jumping:

[Mlachica]

Cool video! :bowdown: This thread is like an expanded version of my priority list for my truck. :jumping:

:ylsmoke: Thanks Ursidae:exclaim: How did viewing the video work out? Time to download?

[Trainwreck]

mine loaded super fast---------lets see more----thats awsome!!!!!:bowdown:

[Scott Brady]

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/?action=view&current=LaurelLakesJuly06.flv

I'm not sure how well this is going to work for you guys to view. If anybody has any suggestions or anything please let me know.

about the clip: This is when we arrived to laurel lakes in the beginning of July. It was past 1am and my rock lights were on. This was the first time I videotaped with the OB cameras :victory:

THAT IS SO COOL! Too much fun man...

[Scott Brady]

What about the dunlop rovers in 255/85? You will need to regear though.

I think 4.88's are a good choice for highway mileage and cruising. ARB is a wise choice too. You will regret not doing that at the same time.

I dont use mine much, but it is nice to know it is there.

Man, your truck is looking so incredible :clapsmile

[BajaTaco]

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/?action=view&current=LaurelLakesJuly06.flv

I'm not sure how well this is going to work for you guys to view. If anybody has any suggestions or anything please let me know.

about the clip: This is when we arrived to laurel lakes in the beginning of July. It was past 1am and my rock lights were on. This was the first time I videotaped with the OB cameras :victory:

Oh man, that is soooo cool! :Wow1: :cool: The vid loaded super fast for me too.

[Mlachica]

Thanks a plenty for the compliments :victory: Hopefully on the next trip I'll get some better footage ;)


What about the dunlop rovers in 255/85? You will need to regear though.

I think 4.88's are a good choice for highway mileage and cruising. ARB is a wise choice too. You will regret not doing that at the same time.

I dont use mine much, but it is nice to know it is there.

Man, your truck is looking so incredible :clapsmile

Have you had personal experience with those tires? I read a pretty good review on them HERE (http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/dunlop/).

I'm definitely going to regear, even if I stay with 32's. Fully loaded it's just too heavy for stock gearing.

And yes, the added security of the arb would be nice, just like the snorkel ;)

With my mileage somewhere sub 16 I think it's time to look for a daily driver. I just got the okay from my lovely wife to get an older 4runner 86-9? Then I'll have the option to go with a solid axle swap or long travel :D

[Scott Brady]

And yes, the added security of the arb would be nice, just like the snorkel ;)


That is why we do all of these mods :) For the safety and security of our families...

[p1michaud]

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/?action=view&current=LaurelLakesJuly06.flv

I'm not sure how well this is going to work for you guys to view. If anybody has any suggestions or anything please let me know.

A bit off topic because it's not about your truck, but for some reason I could not get the video to play? I dowloaded the latest version of Flash Player and can get other flash movies to play from the net but all I see is a picture of your two back tire. No moving :ar15: , any suggestions?

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Nullifier]

I just have to say that this rig is bitchin. Looks tuff, built tuff, toyota tuff!

[articulate]

That is why we do all of these mods :) For the safety and security of our families...
Yes, that's right above because it looks cool.

[david despain]

I thought it was because chicks dig snorkels:D

[Mlachica]

A bit off topic because it's not about your truck, but for some reason I could not get the video to play? I dowloaded the latest version of Flash Player and can get other flash movies to play from the net but all I see is a picture of your two back tire. No moving :ar15: , any suggestions?

Cheers :beer:,
P

I'm not sure how exactly it works. I just click on the link and it opens a new window with its own player and it either automatically plays or you click on the player for it to start. Maybe somebody can chime in with some guidance

[p1michaud]

I'm not sure how exactly it works. I just click on the link and it opens a new window with its own player and it either automatically plays or you click on the player for it to start. Maybe somebody can chime in with some guidance

I just tried it again and it worked fine. I don't know what happened the first time. Very cool video and it did load super fast.
Cheer :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

I finally mounted an ammo can on my rear bumper. I'll eventually put my license plate there. I don't like the way the plate hangs below the bumper.

I'm not quite sure what I'll put in there. Maybe recovery stuff like straps and shackles or I may just fill it with poop when I camp.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_7050.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_7056.jpg

And here's a picture of the locking mech.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_7054.jpg

[kcowyo]

That's a lot of poop!

Mark, your truck is amazing.... :drool:

Top notch, from stem to stern. The video was great and loaded quickly for me. This has been a great mod thread to follow!

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[p1michaud]

Something that keeps things cold. Is that an Fridge Freeze I see hiding behind the spare tire? Is that it's permanent home/location?


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_7050.jpg

Looking good. That would be a great place for a strap and some shackles. Easy access. Just don't put anything that could be stolen in there.

Cheers :beer:,
P

[flyingwil]

Looking good!

[TACODOC]

Your truck is truly outstanding! :bowdown:

[Mlachica]

Something that keeps things cold. Is that an Fridge Freeze I see hiding behind the spare tire? Is that it's permanent home/location?

Looking good. That would be a great place for a strap and some shackles. Easy access. Just don't put anything that could be stolen in there.

Cheers :beer:,
P

Yeah it's an engel 40 eagle eyes. I'll probably put it on the drivers side when I build the deck, it'll most likely be on top of the deck on slides, my stove will fit perfectly under it in its own drawer.


Thank you all for the kind words, it's a blast building it but it's even better seeing it all work together off road... :victory:


As for the tires I think i've narrowed it down to three main contenders. Maybe you guys can help me narrow it down. Things I want out of the tire, not necessarily in order of importance: longevity, even wear, durability, quiteness (this can come or go but it'd be really nice). What I'll be using it for: everything, sand, loose gravel, rocks, mud, snow, rain and a lot of daily driving.

First contender in 285/75R16,
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/bajamtz.jpg
aprx weight 56lbs., load range d, max load 3305 lbs., overall diameter 33.1, tread depth 18.5/32's


Second contender also in 285/75r16,
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/baja_claw_radial.jpg
aprx weight 52lbs., load range d, max load 3305 lbs., tire diameter 33.8, tread depth 23/32's

Final contender in 255/85r16 is the bfg mud terrain which many of you are familiar with.

load range d, max load 3000 lbs.,tire diameter 33.3", tread depth 19/32's

[TACODOC]

I'm happy with the BFG's, so far they have been awesome.
One of the best things about the BFG's is I was able to get them for $150 each!
Your other selections are nice tires as well, but I'm thinking you could save quite a bit of $$$ with the BFG's

[Mlachica]

I'm happy with the BFG's, so far they have been awesome.
One of the best things about the BFG's is I was able to get them for $150 each!
Your other selections are nice tires as well, but I'm thinking you could save quite a bit of $$$ with the BFG's

Wow, that's a good price on the bfg's. I'll most likely buy my tires from america's tire co. for their awesome coverage and all three tires are about $160 online.

How's the noise level on those?

[TACODOC]

They sound like knobbies allright. But, I kinda like that! :truck:

It's not unbearable.

[Mlachica]

Well I placed an order for new wheels...

I really liked the american racing teflon coated wheels but thought I'd never get them until I talked to the guys at america's tire co. They're price and service is unbeatable. Apparently they do so much business with america's racing that they can get pricing better than any other seller. It was a tough decision between the mojave's and the chambers. seen HERE (http://www.americanracing.com/wheels/wheels.asp?section=ORT). The mojave's classic styling will never get old but I thought I'd try something different so I went with the chambers in 16x8.

http://www.americanracing.com/dealerline/blackimages/blackbig/b3985.jpg


For tires I decided to go with the mickey thompson baja mtz in 285/75r16
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/bajamtz.jpg

These should be on by the end of next week, I'll post pics then.

A regear will happen as soon as funds permit. I'll go with 4.88's and possibly a front arb will be stuffed in there as well

[Mlachica]

Here's some pics from my last trip...more can be found HERE (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1962&page=2)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/_MG_6569.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/_MG_6565.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/_MG_6635.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/_MG_6637.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/_MG_6695.jpg

[mountainpete]

Wonderful pics - love the truck. Personally, I prefer "Adventure Red" over "Expedition White" :victory:

Regarding your rear bumper... if you had to do it over again, what would you do different? Any thoughts of how the swing out bumper would fair in cold climates?

[Mlachica]

Wonderful pics - love the truck. Personally, I prefer "Adventure Red" over "Expedition White" :victory:

Regarding your rear bumper... if you had to do it over again, what would you do different? Any thoughts of how the swing out bumper would fair in cold climates?

Thanks MP, I've never heard it called Adventure Red - I like that :victory:
I think it adds pop to a picture when taken right :rolleyes:

Good question...Yesterday I parked on a slope next to an expensive Lexus and had to take out the stroller. The bumper opened towards the front of the lexus and because of the slope I was nervous about it swinging open and hitting the Lexus. So I would make a provision for locking the swing gate in position. Another thing would be to make the table as large as possible and to use vinyl coated cable as opposed to 'clanky' chains. I will eventually address these issues...

As for cold climates, I think it would work fine. In Monache we woke to 36 degrees which is probably a warm winter day in your neck of the woods? Frozen hands touching cold steel is never fun, but functionally I'd imagine it'd be perfect. :sunny:

[flyingwil]

Totally cool d00d! I can not wait to see the wheels on the rig!

[BajaTaco]

Really cool truck. Man, those photos show it off well! :costumed-smiley-007

[p1michaud]

Thanks MP, I've never heard it called Adventure Red - I like that :victory:
I think it adds pop to a picture when taken right :rolleyes:

Adventure Red - I like the sound of that! This may be the alternative official expo color! :wings:

Love all the pics, especially the "Snorkel Action" pics.


Regarding your rear bumper... if you had to do it over again, what would you do different? Any thoughts of how the swing out bumper would fair in cold climates?

Sounds like you are just about ready for one huge Demello order! Bumpers and Suspension can't wait to see it all together! :luxhello:

Cheers :beer:
P

[mountainpete]

Adventure Red - I like the sound of that! This may be the alternative official expo color! :wings:

Love all the pics, especially the "Snorkel Action" pics.



Sounds like you are just about ready for one huge Demello order! Bumpers and Suspension can't wait to see it all together! :luxhello:

Cheers :beer:
P

Yup! Demello is just working out shipping costs for me - if I can't get it shipped for a decent price to Canada I have already arranged for a pickup point in Whitefish Montana. And yes, dropping a bunch of money (my wife = :yikes: ).

[mountainpete]

Thanks MP, I've never heard it called Adventure Red - I like that :victory:
I think it adds pop to a picture when taken right :rolleyes:

Good question...Yesterday I parked on a slope next to an expensive Lexus and had to take out the stroller. The bumper opened towards the front of the lexus and because of the slope I was nervous about it swinging open and hitting the Lexus. So I would make a provision for locking the swing gate in position. Another thing would be to make the table as large as possible and to use vinyl coated cable as opposed to 'clanky' chains. I will eventually address these issues...

As for cold climates, I think it would work fine. In Monache we woke to 36 degrees which is probably a warm winter day in your neck of the woods? Frozen hands touching cold steel is never fun, but functionally I'd imagine it'd be perfect. :sunny:

Thanks Mark! I have been looking over the design closely and I am worried that it would get frozen shut during my winters. Tacoma's with a canopy on the back like to suck back the frozen muck coming off the roads and i am a bit worried about the hinges and locks freezing. But it's one of those things that you never know until you try it. :p

[BajaTaco]

Adventure Red - I like the sound of that! This may be the alternative official expo color! :wings:

I'm sorry sir, but there is no substitute or alternative. There can only be one. :p

[Mlachica]

Thanks Mark! I have been looking over the design closely and I am worried that it would get frozen shut during my winters. Tacoma's with a canopy on the back like to suck back the frozen muck coming off the roads and i am a bit worried about the hinges and locks freezing. But it's one of those things that you never know until you try it. :p

I don't see a freezing problem with this bumper - I just hope you have some gloves on when you slide the 'dead bolt' out. It does take a little bit of persuasion, you have to remember that's what keeps the swing gate from vibrating/moving seperate of the bumper. Any vibration of the tire carrier portion of the bumper will eventually lead to failure - like the spare tire coming off while cruisin a freeway.

[Scott Brady]

Mark,

Man, the truck looks incredible. Just a few months till I get to see it in person. :friday:

[p1michaud]

Yup! Demello is just working out shipping costs for me - if I can't get it shipped for a decent price to Canada I have already arranged for a pickup point in Whitefish Montana. And yes, dropping a bunch of money (my wife = :yikes: ).

Demello did and excellent job with minimizing shipping and brokerage fees when I recently purchase my frame reinforcements. Nothing but good words for Demello. I can just imagine that your wife = :yikes: it could always be worse, she could be :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:!

Hopefully you can start a mod tread for your truck that way we can follow your progress.

Cheers :beer:,
P

[p1michaud]

Here's some pics from my last trip...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/_MG_6569.jpg


Mlachica,
Now that you have had the Eezi Awn mounted and field tested. What are your impressions of the mounting solution you used. How does it affect vehicle handling and stability off road? How much has your MPG suffered? Can you offer any other advice?

Eventually I’d like to mount a roof top tent on my Leer Shell so I’d like to hear your impressions.

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

Mlachica,
Now that you have had the Eezi Awn mounted and field tested. What are your impressions of the mounting solution you used. How does it affect vehicle handling and stability off road? How much has your MPG suffered? Can you offer any other advice?

Eventually I’d like to mount a roof top tent on my Leer Shell so I’d like to hear your impressions.

Cheers :beer:,
P

I think the method of mounting is stout. I haven't had any issues with it thus far. When an adult is in the tent moving around and shaking the tent - the entire truck moves. I saw no deflection in the uprights/upright mounts/can back/bed sides, it all moves as a whole.

Weighing 130lbs I don't forget that it's up there, especially when off camber. There is more body roll but it's manageable and not out of control. Mind you this is all off road. When driving on road I really didn't feel much of a difference, unless hauling butt on a freeway interchange.

My mileage is surprisingly more or less the same. I average about 14.9-15.5 a tank whether fully loaded or empty.

A lot of times I do wish I had it on an adventure chaser trailer :ylsmoke: I find myself setting up camp and wanting to explore which means I'd have to close up the tent. Kind of a pain in the butt with the tent on top. It's something I really have to think about if I want a trailer to tug along or not.

If you're mounting it on a shell I'd just make sure the shell is well mounted and look into reinforcing it internally or at least evenly distributing the weight.

[flyingwil]

So now with that said, do you wish you had it mounted more similar to Scott's to lower the CG, or do you feel that it would decrease the amount of cargo you can carry? (I am in a constant battle with my wife over the backseat... she likes it in, and I like it out with the fridge in place! I just do not get since we almost never use the back seat.)

[Solid Taco]

Did you take the swaybars off? I'm thinking I would have to put mine back on when I put on a similar set up on my truck.

[TACODOC]

Nice setup! Cant wait to see it in action en Mexico! :sombrero: :truck:

[p1michaud]

If you're mounting it on a shell I'd just make sure the shell is well mounted and look into reinforcing it internally or at least evenly distributing the weight.

Mlachica,
Thanks for your feedback. Eventually I'd like to mount a roof top tent on my shell. I agree completely that the shell would need to be reinforced. I has somehting like this (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27077&postcount=31) in mind.

:camping:

Cheers :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

So now with that said, do you wish you had it mounted more similar to Scott's to lower the CG, or do you feel that it would decrease the amount of cargo you can carry? (I am in a constant battle with my wife over the backseat... she likes it in, and I like it out with the fridge in place! I just do not get since we almost never use the back seat.)

If I was able to remove the backseat and use it for the fridge and additional storage I would have mounted my tent similar to Scott's. However, my son wouldn't have anywhere to sit... :ylsmoke:


Did you take the swaybars off? I'm thinking I would have to put mine back on when I put on a similar set up on my truck.

No, I never removed mine. I wouldn't mind removing it though since it's only good for high speed. For slow going articulating action a removed sway bar would be better for me so the IFS can be truly independant and keep the truck more level.

[flyingwil]

If I was able to remove the backseat and use it for the fridge and additional storage I would have mounted my tent similar to Scott's. However, my son wouldn't have anywhere to sit... :ylsmoke:

I have the solution to that one too.... Solo seat in the rear. I have gone over it with my wife time and time again.

[Mlachica]

I have the solution to that one too.... Solo seat in the rear. I have gone over it with my wife time and time again.

That would be nice a three seat taco, I probably should have mentioned we're expecting a second baby in Feb :wings: So for me the rear seat has to stay. Maybe it's time to get rid of the taco and get a 80 LC with an adventure trailer :sombrero:

[Mlachica]

Here's a glimpse of the American Racing Chambers and MT Baja MTZ's

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/IMG_7135.jpg

One tip, before you go out wheeling and air down make sure whatever air chuck you use will fit the recessed valve stem. Thanks again Al and Dave for airing me up!

[Scott Brady]

FREAKING SWEET! Cant wait to mount my Chambers up. The box's have dust on them.

[mountainpete]

Looks great!

What size did you end up going with in the end? Any rubbing yet?

[blupaddler]

Mark...

It was great to meet you this last weekend, AND to see your truck in person!!! :jumping: :jumping: We'll have to get together this winter.


THIS TRUCK IS SWEET!


I never got to finish talking to you more about your dual battery. Could you expand on this a little? Also who made your battery strap down? That thing was stout!

:clapsmile





Oh, and Scott...I will be happy to take those dusty boxes off your hands. :)

[Mlachica]

Looks great!

What size did you end up going with in the end? Any rubbing yet?

I ended up going with 285/75's. So I have more clearance where it counts. And while in baja this last weekend (here (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2447)) I learned that jumping my truck with these wheels - they stuff into the wheel well and rub almost half of the plastic wells. I also rub when at full lock turning left, but not right.

Rob...Thanks for the kind words :) It was a pleasure meeting you and your family. It's great to see you guys enjoying life! But you know what really trips me out is how you earn vacation, dammit!

[Mlachica]

I never got to finish talking to you more about your dual battery. Could you expand on this a little? Also who made your battery strap down? That thing was stout!

:clapsmile


Well I don't think I've elaborated on my dual battery setup and since Rob put me on front street I guess it's time :)

Key Components...
main battery - odyssey 1200mjt
aux battery - odyssey 1700mjt (battery specs (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm))
mobi-arc isolator (more info here (http://www.perfectswitch.com/isolator.htm), and tech specs here (http://www.perfectswitch.com/images/isolatorspecs.gif))
Rockford Fosgate 1/0 cable for the (+) and 2/0 for the (-)
I only used 2/0 because we had some left overs at work
Rockford Fostgate positive battery post lugs

I'll try and keep this as organized as possible so forgive me if I ramble...

My reasons for choosing the 'perfect switch' is efficiency, reliability, and the theory behind the isolator works for my application.

Efficiency/Reliability

There are a couple ways of isolating batteries...
1. Solenoid - You can find these in your winch. Essentially they are contacts that open and close, isolating and combining your batteries, respectively. Solenoids are rated for interrupting large amounts of current that's why they are found on your winch and with battery systems. When contacts open and break excessive amounts of current a layer of oxidation builds on the current carrying contacts. This layer of oxidation creates resistance. Resistance reduces efficiency. In turn making it harder for your alternator to fully charge your batteries. Also say when you combine your batteries to winch, the battery that has to power the winch through the solenoid will waste power because of the solenoid. And I hear occassional stories of solenoid failure with winches. Maybe because it's not only electrical but mechanical as well.

2. Diodes - such as the surepower isolator. Diodes by nature waste power (watts). Typical diode isolators drop the voltage by 0.7 volts, I know it doesn't sound like much but at high currents the losses add up. Power (watts) = I (current) x E (voltage) So let's say you're winching and the winch is drawing 200 amps.
140 watts = 200 amps x 0.7 volts. What this means is at a loss of .7 volts, and 200 amps of current flowing you're wasting (losing) 140 watts. This loss of electrical energy becomes energy in the form of heat. That's why the diode type isolators are larger and have heat fins. As heat rises, the resistance rises, and excessive heat can cause premature failure.

3. MOSFETs - this is what mobi-arc uses. The electrical theory is a little too deep for me but I've actually tested my isolator to see if what they advertise is true. I didn't write down the numbers but what I did was hooked up the winch to draw current from both batteries (not how I would typically use it, I'll explain later). With a clamp on DC ammeter I measured how much current was flowing through the isolator. I think about 120 amps were going through the isolator. I then measured what the voltage was before and after the isolator and it was a difference of about .04 volts. So with the same P = IE equation that equals 120 amps x .04 volts = 4.8 watts.

Now I know it's not a whole lot of power, I think I'm just critical about it because electricity is what I deal with every day. But think about this - would 140 watts of heat or 4.8 watts of heat be easier to dissapate? Hence the reason why the perfect switch is smaller and doesn't need heat sinks. Another benefit of this type of isolator is that it's solid state, there are no moving parts = less things to break.

How it works...
I have the Single Rectifier Unit, (think direction or current flow)which isolates the main battery from the aux battery. It does NOT isolate the aux battery from the main battery.

Another way of saying this is the aux battery can and is feeding the main battery as well as everything connected to the main battery. In contrary the main battery cannot feed the aux battery.

Essentially what this means is, anything fed from your aux battery will only take power from your aux battery, your main battery will be untouched. Now anything fed from your main battery will be fed from your main battery and your aux battery via the isolator.

Now because it is designed this way, the main battery will never have a lesser charge than the aux battery. Why? Because the isolator allows the current to flow from the aux battery to the main battery, but not in the opposite direction. So it's like the aux battery is always jump starting the main battery. That's why the main battery will always have a greater charge than the aux, so it's a guarantee that I will be able to start my truck.

So here's the jist of what's connected to my aux battery..
1 fridge
multiple 12v outlets
3 lightforce lights
4 rock lights
2m
cb
air compressor
winch

All of these accessories take power from the aux battery and the aux battery only. These are the accessories that have a greater chance of draining a battery, either over long periods (fridge camping) or short one's (extensive winching).


Why don't I combine my batteries for winching?
I haven't done too much winching but after talking to many many people, one good battery is enough. I don't frequent anything too extreme and even if I did, I could always use jumper cables to combine the batteries. And if I did an extreme winch pull and killed a battery, it would be my aux battery and not my starting (main) battery.

If I did use a system that would combine the batteries and did a crazy winch pull that killed both batteries - then what? Drive around for an hour to make sure your batteries are somewhat charged. Chances are slim but I don't want to take that risk.

Now let's say you use your radio while camping a lot (which would be connected to your main battery), there's always the possiblity of killing your main battery and your aux battery. I typically don't use my radio or anything wired from the main battery, while at camp. If you do use a lot of factory wired accessories when the truck is off then this may not be the choice for you... If I do choose to listen to xm at camp I'm not afraid to because the current draw is so minimal and slow that I can catch the battery before it's too late with a voltmeter.

Whew, that was long winded. Clear as mud? I hope I helped people more than I confused people :(

Yes, pictures are coming...and I'll try to put together a drawing for the visual learner.


Oh and the mount was designed by me and made by John at Demello's. I love that hold down/isolator mount!
Fire off any questions, I'll try to clarify...

[flyingwil]

Good thing I have seen it in person or you would have lost me!

Oh yeah... Want to trade trucks?

[BajaTaco]

Oh man, those Chamber wheels look just freaking awesome on your truck. IMO, those are hands down the best looking wheel around right now. Too bad they don't make them in white - I think that would look really cool on a white truck. The black look fantastic too - I can't wait to see them on Scott's truck.

Excellent post you just did on the aux. battery system. Very well said and I "got" every word of it, and agree. Pretty cool that you actually tested the unit you have. 4.3 watts - that's impressive!

[Dave]

That dual battery explanation/write-up was excellent. Can't wait for pictures!

[Mlachica]

Good thing I have seen it in person or you would have lost me!

Oh yeah... Want to trade trucks?

LOL, sure we can trade, just leave the TwoZone in there! And all those goodies you say have layin around!

[Mlachica]

Oh man, those Chamber wheels look just freaking awesome on your truck. IMO, those are hands down the best looking wheel around right now. Too bad they don't make them in white - I think that would look really cool on a white truck. The black look fantastic too - I can't wait to see them on Scott's truck.

Excellent post you just did on the aux. battery system. Very well said and I "got" every word of it, and agree. Pretty cool that you actually tested the unit you have. 4.3 watts - that's impressive!

Thanks for the compliments :elkgrin:

Those in flat white, on a white truck would look crazy. Almost like a retro look. I've loved gun metal finish for years, I couldn't wait for somebody to make truck rims in that finish. Well teflon is close enough to gun metal :rolleyes:


Ramblings from my last outing...
The ten leaf deaver pack really isn't strong enough for a heavy taco. I should have talked to others before I had mine rebuilt. My rear end was sagging pretty good, and I was only loaded for a 3 day trip. I bottomed out hard a couple times on my rear end, I'm sure it wouldn't have happened if I didn't have anything in the bed. Right now I can't afford another leaf pack so I'll have to figure out something else in the meantime...

[asteffes]

Hey, Mark! Did you get my email about ExTrophy and the Yakima basket? Might help you with the Deaver problem. :littlefriend:

[Mlachica]

Here's a picture of the battery hold down and isolator mount. I came up with the design and John from DO fabbed it up. The battery tray is the steel one that odyssey makes. I had it welded to the stock location and the quality of the weld didn't meet my expectations so I had to reinforce it with this. The hold down bolts on the side of the battery to the battery tray, the side of the fender, the factory j bolt and the other factory bolt above the headlight.

And those washboard roads in baja are no joke. That's the culprit of the missing screw holding down the isolator - time for some loctite.

[Scott Brady]

Hey Mark, I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you have aftermarket upper a-arms?
2. How much room is there between the tire (285) and the UCA?

Thanks man :)

[Ursidae69]

Ramblings from my last outing...
The ten leaf deaver pack really isn't strong enough for a heavy taco. I should have talked to others before I had mine rebuilt. My rear end was sagging pretty good, and I was only loaded for a 3 day trip. I bottomed out hard a couple times on my rear end, I'm sure it wouldn't have happened if I didn't have anything in the bed. Right now I can't afford another leaf pack so I'll have to figure out something else in the meantime...

I had mine rebuilt to a 10-pack early this last summer and the trip I just got back from was the first real test of the 10-pack. I had all my gear, 25 gallons of water, 5 galls of gas, 100qt cooler full, 2 cases of beer, etc, etc. (basically the most weight I've had in it) and it rode almost level, much better than the 9 pack did, still not ideal though. Like you, I'm going to stick with mine a while and see how I feel after a year or so. I will probably change later down the road.

[Mlachica]

Hey Mark, I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you have aftermarket upper a-arms?
2. How much room is there between the tire (285) and the UCA?

Thanks man :)

1. Not YET :D
2. It's really really close, I'll give a more detailed answer later today.

Thinking about snow chain fitment?

[Mlachica]

I had mine rebuilt to a 10-pack early this last summer and the trip I just got back from was the first real test of the 10-pack. I had all my gear, 25 gallons of water, 5 galls of gas, 100qt cooler full, 2 cases of beer, etc, etc. (basically the most weight I've had in it) and it rode almost level, much better than the 9 pack did, still not ideal though. Like you, I'm going to stick with mine a while and see how I feel after a year or so. I will probably change later down the road.

Our load is probably similar. I think in the meantime I'll put some shackles to regain the lost height, but I think the real solution is a larger pack.

[Mlachica]

Scott,

It's about 15/16" from the UCA and 1/2" from the spindle

[p1michaud]

Mlachica,
I'm currious to know what your current lift height is as compared to the stock figures? Just for the sake of having the info all in one place, Scott's truck sits 2.25" over stock in the front and 3" in the rear (http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34093&postcount=434) and BajaTaco sits 2.5" to 2.75" over stock in the front, not sure for the rear of his Tacoma but I'd suspect relatively the same or higher than the front.
Cheers :beer:,
P

[Mlachica]

Here's a video from the onboard camera's during the expo trophy.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/th_ExpoTrophy.jpg (http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/?action=view&current=ExpoTrophy.flv)

The beginning is from the nose cam and the rest is obvious. Nothing to crazy. I forgot to include water crossings from when I went to Monache meadows...I'll get that up sometime

As for mods, the deck is still in it's planning stages. I have changed my steering rack bushings for the poly ones and had to change my center support bearing along the driveshaft. I'll post pictures of them to show how worn they are...

[TACODOC]

Mark, THAT IS SO COOL!!!! Gotta get me one of those cams! :bowdown:

[Desertdude]

what a great tool to check thngs out underneath the truck

OK it's onthe list... :088:

[jeffryscott]

so cool.:drool:

[Scott Brady]

That is awesome Mark, just like your truck! :truck:

[BajaTaco]

:jumping: Wow, that is way too fun. I definitely need to get a recorder hooked up to my cameras. That is just too cool to pass up.

:truck:

[Mlachica]

Thank you all for the compliments!

Anybody have any idea on how to record sound simultaneously? I'd like to be able to hear the engine revving, rocks smacking or water gushing. My camera system has a video rca output and my camcorder has a cord with rca inputs to video tape from an outside source. If there's a way to plug a mic into the rca inputs to my video camera I think it would make the video's much more enjoyable...

[Desertdude]

depending on your video cam - (if it has a mic input) that can sometimes get disabled when you use the rca inputs and the rca audio in mught need a slight pre amp to get the signal right - you could experiment with a cheap RS mic

[thehackman15]

hey great looking rig. i have a question though, with your front bumper what does the rear of the winch mount to? is it the base of the bumper or is there mounts made in the rear to match the front? also what holds your fairlead inplace when you dont have the front skidplate on?

[Mlachica]

Welcome to Expo hackman! :victory:

Great questions...The rear mounting bolts attach to the base of the bumper (angle). It is not like the front. I've only used the winch 3 times, all on a stock jeep (light weight) and there was very minimal deflection (1/8") in the bumper under load.

The winch actually sticks out farther than the plane of the bumper so once the winch was added I had to eliminate the skid. So the fairlead mounts to two strips of flat stock.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/mlachica/winch.jpg

[OldSven]

Is that a MileMarker 8000lb? How do you like it?

[thehackman15]

ahhh thanks alot for those pics,info, and the welcome. thats the problem i have been having everytime i have built a bumper. it sticks out too far and doesnt retain the skid. i need to come up with a way to get the winch behind the skidplate to keep it protected and keep the prerunner look. i have a milemarker pe8000 and i like it, its a little slow but it easily pulls my truck and jeeps when needed. for the price i payed i couldnt ask for more.

[Mlachica]

Is that a MileMarker 8000lb? How do you like it?

It is the e9000.

It's great bang for the buck. When I first installed it, it had a problem. A brush came out in the motor. At a particular point in the rotation, the motor won't start it's turn. So i'd turn it a little by hand, then it would fire right up. Also, one of the motor terminals were loose. Being under warranty I called and told them the problem and what troubleshooting I did. Without hassle they sent me a brand new motor. I put the new motor on and it works perfect. I also fixed the old motor. I think it was just a quality control issue. But honestly, I'd like to sell it and get a warn m8000.

hackman,

If you look at www.demello-offroad.com (http://www.demello-offroad.com) Jason has built many front bumpers that don't stick out too much, retain the front skid and accommodate a winch.

[SinCity4r]

Hey Mark, good luck with your sale. I hope you get what you want for it!

Do you have any pictures of the mounted cameras and screen? Thanks!

[Willman]

BUMP!!!

This yet another great Tacoma thread for all the new comers to take a look at!

:coffee:

[flyingwil]

BUMP!!!

This yet another great Tacoma thread for all the new comers to take a look at!

:coffee:


Mark-

Who was the lucky buyer of the Taco?

[blupaddler]

He did a partial trade with someone for his current 80 series.

:PROFSheriffHL:

[Mlachica]

Mark-

Who was the lucky buyer of the Taco?

I posted my truck on MUD and a guy from utah was interested in a trade. He needed a pickup truck to haul stuff and I needed cab space, it worked out perfect. After long phone calls, plenty of emails he drove down here. His brother lives here in cali, a couple miles from my brothers house. Kind of crazy.