anybody ever make their own winch lines?

Kottonwood

Adventurer
Anybody ever splice their own synthetic winch cable. I splice 12 strand all the time so putting some locking brummels in some amsteel to put a hook or clevis on the end is no big deal, however I am wondering how you do the other end. I have a sythetic winchrope on my smittybilt and it has a small eye hole crimped to the end. I would want something I could splice on. Anyone got any ideas?
 

proper4wd

Expedition Leader
Not necessary to have anything on the end. If you must have something though, just a loop large enough to pass the thimble end through would do.
 

Kottonwood

Adventurer
thanks for the reply. That is true if you have a winch that has a hole in the drum to pass the cable through, however many winches just have a bolt that you bolt an eye too, this is how my winch is. I think I will probably end up just crimping an eye to it. Just wondering if anyone had a way of making something much stronger..... guess I could drill through my drum.
 

Beowulf

Expedition Leader
I have made everything from Soft Shackles, Winch Extensions, and Winch Lines. Which winch brand you have will can dictate what you do on the spool end. For the Warn winches you can use the Viking spool attachment and just do a simple through splice, unless it is the Zeon. They have a new wedge system. For Superwinch you just feather out the end and pass it through the spool.


Here is one method. Easy on the Superwinch, but if you use the Viking attachment, just leave the tail long. Since it is generally recommended that you keep a full wrap of synthetic line on your drum I figured it might be good to make sure that you cannot pull more line off that drum. To accomplish this I actually use one of nylon webbing sewn into an "8" shape (see below pic ). These do work well, but can be difficult to move into place. Since these Line Locks are getting harder to find, I wanted to come up with a way to do the same thing without one. The general use of a Whip Lock for tidying up the end of rope would prove the perfect method. Below I will show the Winch Line Whip Lock, or if you want to call it the Beowulf Lock you can... :) . I figure if there is a group that can rip this process apart, it will be here.

Once tensioned these creates an extremely ridged lock that will keep you from ever accidentally pulling out more line.

Winch Line Lock: Nice, but difficult to move all the way down the other side of the drum to maintain a full wrap. (Stock pics from webstore in England)
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Step one:

Pull enough line through the drum to go the width of the drum twice. If you have the Warn attachment from Viking, just undo the line and redo it to have enough of a tail. (Pics of Superwinch EP drum)
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Step Two:

Wrap the line over the tail extending down to where you want the Line Lock. I choice to have it all the way at the end of the drum.
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Step Three:

Loop the Tail over the last wrap and start to feed it under all the previous wraps.
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Now under all the wraps.
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Step Four:

Tighten all the wraps as best you can and continue to pull on the tail to tighten up the Lock on the Last wrap. Once done you can cut off the extra of the tail. If you had perfect length you could possibly have it tucked without needing to cut anything.
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The finished Product:

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Now, if you think the just over once and under the rest will not provide enough tension you can go over the last wrap. Under the next two. Over the wrap subsequent two and then under the rest.

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Now here I have shown this with two different colored ropes to highlight the rope placements.

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Kottonwood

Adventurer
Beowolf, Thanks for the responses. Your method seems strong but I dont think I would want to use up that much line and drum space. That viking lock is exactly what I was looking for!
 

verdesardog

Explorer
You don't need anything stronger than a crimped lug. It's the several wraps of line on the drum that keep it from slipping under load......KISS
 

Kottonwood

Adventurer
Yeah, you're right. When winching the wraps are the strength. My thing is I tend to run with my winch line while I pull it out... sometimes I end up pulling pretty hard on the end (you know like a dog when they forget theyre on a leash). A crimped lug sometimes comes right off... making my day less awesome. I think that viking conector is a great little piece of hardware. I will probably order one as soon as I am going to be in one place long enough to get one... or maybe I will just get a small piece of chain link and a washer from a hardware store... time will tell. Heading to new england in a couple days where I should have no problem picking up some cheap amsteel at one of the boatyards and finding a coathanger to do some splicing!
 

Louisd75

Adventurer
Yeah, you're right. When winching the wraps are the strength. My thing is I tend to run with my winch line while I pull it out... sometimes I end up pulling pretty hard on the end (you know like a dog when they forget theyre on a leash). A crimped lug sometimes comes right off... making my day less awesome. I think that viking conector is a great little piece of hardware. I will probably order one as soon as I am going to be in one place long enough to get one... or maybe I will just get a small piece of chain link and a washer from a hardware store... time will tell. Heading to new england in a couple days where I should have no problem picking up some cheap amsteel at one of the boatyards and finding a coathanger to do some splicing!

That viking connector came right off my Warn 8000 when pulling by hand. I wound up running a strand of different colored winchline perpendicular through the line so that I know when I've got 5' of usable line left and another when I'm at the end of usable line. If I go past the second one I know that I no longer have enough wraps on the drum to comfortably winch with.
 

doug720

Expedition Leader
I saw a picture of a commercial winch where the synthetic line had a small eye spliced in the winch end. The loop end was wrapped around the winch drum and lines hook end was passed through the loop.

Seems like a nice set up, no metal parts, no bolts, but I know nothing of line loads on a set up like this. Maybe the experts will post if this is good, same or bad?
 

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