Looking at getting into a LR3...maybe

kaibrenner

New member
Owned a 2006 LR3, and would never do it again without a warranty. Electrical problems and the air suspension failures left us stranded several times. Without the warranty, the repairs would have cost us over $8,000, in the two years we owned it. Our 2004 discovery has been much more reliable with 130k miles on it.
 

zelatore

Explorer
Everyone says something different in terms of reliability. Why is that?
That's pretty much the case with every 'should I buy xxx vehicle' thread it seems. Ask about a Ford and there will be a bunch of guys cheering them on and just as many saying they'd never own one. Jeep? One guy has never had a problem, other say they are made by the devil himself. Even the high and mighty Toyota owners aren't above this - many say yotas are the best things ever...my personal experience says otherwise.
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I'm not trying to say the LR3 is the most reliable vehicle ever made. I'm sure at some point you'll be frustrated by an electrical issue. But I think for a mostly stock, bad road/mud/hunting/towing/take-the-family-with-you rig they are an excellent option. Find and test drive a few and you'll probably fall in love. Find a good local club to hook up with for support (after all, it won't be long before you want another...it's just that way with Rovers), and find a good local indy shop for the things you can't or don't want to deal with yourself.
 

Ray_G

Explorer
Concur with Don. Kaibrenner's experience is about 180 from most in the sense that the general trend has been the LR3/4 has been light years ahead of the Dii in terms of reliability.

One thing that sidesteps a fair amount of this is to get service records, almost any vehicle you are going to be looking at should be old enough that the issues it could have had from build quality or what have you would have come to light. If you see dealer records indicating replacing the cowl and doing electrical troubleshooting then you know the windshield->dash->footwell waterfall had occurred and the harness in the canal, I mean channel, suffered some damage. If you don't see that it is still worth looking at if the carpet gets wet over there but the fix really isn't that hard. $8k under warranty seems like a lot till you look at how the dealer bills hours and such; if it was compressor replacement, control arms, etc it is all stuff you can do for a fraction of the cost and-quite frankly-that's just part of being insane enough to own a Land Rover b/c most of us on this board probably wouldn't own one if we were paying someone else to do a lot of the work!
 

KMET

Adventurer
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You'll never find the perfect mode of transport.

Given the chance for a do over? ....Public Transportation!
 

Thon

New member
I was considering the LR3 when I made my last car purchase at the end of 2013 and spoke to a trusted independent garage that specialises in LR products exclusively. I have worked at this garage myself and since then have always used it to maintain my various Defenders (4) over the years. I was quite determined to go with a 60 - 80K miles LR3 2.7 TDV6 and wanted his advice.

He and his 2 mechanics mainly work on 3-10 year old RRS, LR3, FL2 and RR, with most of them 3-6 years old, just out of warranty. He says that the most reliable and trouble free are the LR2, with the LR3 and RRS being the worst, with an expected repair budget of £2K per year on top of normal maintenance & consumables.

I ended up purchasing a 2007 LR2 2.2 TD4 based on his advice and have not regretted it. It obviously does not have the same abilities as the LR3 but does all I need it to do.

I certainly am not trying to put you off an LR3 or Sport (or suggest the LR2 to you either) but I wanted to share with you the advice that you will need to spend significant chunks of cash on it on a fairly regular basis.

Good Luck!
 

NickH

Observer
Thank you everyone for the replies. It appears some have issues, some don't. Either way, I am set on the LR3 and looking for one at this time.
 

Eric K

Observer
Nick, I actually just went through what you are doing. I bought my first Land Rover a couple months ago and it was an LR3. My experience has gone pretty well, with a few eye openers.

First I for some naive reason expected a luxury dealer to not have Jiffy Lube-itis. Which is everything is wrong with your car even when it's not. I have taken the LR3 in twice for some routine stuff (such as the control arms) and every time they have told me my brakes are bad and my battery needs replacing. I have checked them both, and even had a mechanic friend verify and my brake pads and battery are fine. So first lesson: don't just do whatever the dealer wants. They will try and stick you for a lot of expensive repairs/maintenance.

Second: If you get an LR3 in the 70-90k range (which is probably around the mileage for that price), expect some early cash outlays. The bushing will probably need replacing. If it has not had the transmission fluid changed, it will need it. I think there is one more item as well that is kind of pricy but it's escaping me at the moment.

Third: You will probably instantly love the vehicle. I had never even been in one before I started my search and I am hooked. The seating position and view out of all the windows is great. The museum like quietness of the cabin is awesome. The engine shifts well, and actually accelerates well (for a 5500 pound vehicle). I have gone on 3 long trips (mileage wise) already and I just love driving it.

So I say by all means get one, just be ultra choosy on which one you get. Get as many service records as you can, no accidents, etc.
 

454

Exploder
...First I for some naive reason expected a luxury dealer to not have Jiffy Lube-itis. Which is everything is wrong with your car even when it's not. I have taken the LR3 in twice for some routine stuff (such as the control arms) and every time they have told me my brakes are bad and my battery needs replacing. I have checked them both, and even had a mechanic friend verify and my brake pads and battery are fine. So first lesson: don't just do whatever the dealer wants. They will try and stick you for a lot of expensive repairs/maintenance....

Some shops will try to "build a ticket". Those shops deserve to go out of business.
 

A.J.M

Explorer
From this and likely reading other places.
You will know some can be great, others can drive you to the drink. Haha.

At that mileage, see my list for what will likely need doing.

It lets you get an idea of what to look for/listen for. Also lets you ask questions to the seller for what's been done to it.
Be annoying, ask the questions, get the answers. Make up a list of what can go wrong, ask the sellers have they been attended to.

Also, find and join your local club. They will know of the best garages to take it to if needed but also can give you plenty of help for doing the little jobs. Brakes are easy for example.

Good luck and keep us informed.
 

zelatore

Explorer
As mentioned, you'll possibly be looking at LCAs - another pretty easy job at home. I just did a set for a buddy as part of a club wrenching day. He bought new bolts 'just in case', but being in CA we didn't have any problems with the old stuff. I understand some of you poor souls back east have corrosion/salt. <shudder>
Took us less than half a day working on another friend's lift. Probably still could have been done in half a day working in a driveway with a floor jack.
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Oh yeah, get a strong floor jack - these things are heavy! My poor 2-ton Harbor Freight aluminum jack is almost done for after lifting my LR3 a few times.
 

NickH

Observer
Having a hard time finding what I want. Dealers don't return emails as soon as I start talking about HD packages, service records, and explain to them that I am overseas and will require to ship. Private owners as well. Never thought it would be so hard to give someone my money.
 

mpinco

Expedition Leader
Having a hard time finding what I want. Dealers don't return emails as soon as I start talking about HD packages, service records, and explain to them that I am overseas and will require to ship. Private owners as well. Never thought it would be so hard to give someone my money.

I've always had good experience with Land Rover Colorado Springs. They at least list ALL the options for their pre-owned inventory, to include HD package. They do know what they are selling. In addition they probably know how to manage overseas deals as customers are from Ft. Carson and Air Force Academy.

Jim Murphy: jimm@rednoland.com

Now do they have LR3's or do you need to step up to an LR4? ......... :)
 

Eric K

Observer
Having a hard time finding what I want. Dealers don't return emails as soon as I start talking about HD packages, service records, and explain to them that I am overseas and will require to ship. Private owners as well. Never thought it would be so hard to give someone my money.

I had the same kind of problems and that was without the overseas issue. It seems Land Rover dealers don't want LR3's as they are older, and since these are complicated vehicles nobody else wants them either. I ended up going private, but you will probably have a problem there since you are needing shipping. Try looking in Atlanta. Don't ask me why, but when I was looking Atlanta had the most LR3's of anywhere.
 

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